Locked 60 FPS! Crazy Battery Life! - GeForce Now on Steam Deck

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  • Steam Deck UPDATE! - GeForce Now on the Steam Deck. I'll cover how to install and optimize it for the Steam Deck. I also discuss potential issues and solutions, such as setting up per-game controller layouts and adjusting settings for optimal performance and battery life.
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  • @chrishoward8500
    @chrishoward8500 25 днів тому +14

    As someone who ONLY has a Steam Deck, nothing else, GeForce Now is simply unreal. To be able to play Baldur’s Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077, No Rest for the Wicked, Manor Lords etc at maxed out settings, handheld, with insane battery life. It’s actually absurd.

    • @JorgeBarreraC
      @JorgeBarreraC 22 дні тому

      How much battery life you get?

    • @chrishoward8500
      @chrishoward8500 22 дні тому

      On which game?

    • @MasterMMM703
      @MasterMMM703 19 днів тому

      On geforcenow obviously , game don't matters on cloud

    • @naterod
      @naterod 16 днів тому

      What’s your controller settings?

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 15 днів тому

      @@JorgeBarreraC I usually get around 7-8 hours

  • @Skylin3r.
    @Skylin3r. 28 днів тому +5

    Long press on the Start button opens up the GFN side panel while in game.

  • @SlyMelodica.
    @SlyMelodica. 29 днів тому +21

    Bill must say GeForce Now is a must for games that just won't run on the deck like DD2

    • @Combat_Vet82
      @Combat_Vet82 29 днів тому +2

      Facts! I been been dumping hours in DD2!

    • @Woupsme
      @Woupsme 28 днів тому +4

      DD2 won't run on most any system lol

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому +2

      Couldn’t agree more. Underrated service. I play a lot of Destiny 2 on GeForce that I otherwise can’t do reliably

    • @jcc4543
      @jcc4543 28 днів тому

      Cause steam deck is outdated Rog ally extreme can run it also lenovo legion go

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 27 днів тому

      @@jcc4543 nothing to do with it

  • @MrGalax00
    @MrGalax00 29 днів тому +16

    I do a mix of GeForce now, xbox cloud, and steam local streaming.

    • @liborhorvath6073
      @liborhorvath6073 18 днів тому

      I would like to ask anyone,does GeForce it's supported steam deck LCD,or not?

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 15 днів тому

      @@liborhorvath6073 of course

  • @TerryHoskin
    @TerryHoskin 29 днів тому +3

    I’ve had gforce now for a while now (since Starfield released) it was a weird setup but works wonders for me.
    Had to download a browser and input a couple of lines of code manually to get the controls to work.

  • @ufailowell
    @ufailowell 29 днів тому +3

    Glad the option is there for people, but I’m moving towards in home streaming. If you have the hardware it makes a lot of sense

  • @richiegore1
    @richiegore1 27 днів тому +1

    I played Alan Wake 2 streamed from my pc at 4K and the downscaled to the steam deck resolution. I tried setting the game to 800p but found it didn’t look as good, hair was noticeably less detailed for one.If you have the power no sense not to render at a higher resolution and let it downscale.

  • @Jarken17
    @Jarken17 28 днів тому

    I have an Odin 2 and use Moonlight and have it so it instantly opens playnite on my pc when i connect and its a beautiful experience

    • @AtrusDesign
      @AtrusDesign 27 днів тому

      I have it on Steam deck too. It works well indeed!

  • @Stalwartinitiative
    @Stalwartinitiative 28 днів тому +1

    Great vid. Does GFN only pull from launchers? I play modded Fallout 4 though Vortex. The game is in a pfx folder, not in Steam.

    • @Daniel__Nobre
      @Daniel__Nobre 28 днів тому

      You can’t install mods on GeForce Now. But I think it may be possible to use Bethesda’s “official” mods from their own in game mod library store thing. There is also support for Steam Workshop on most games that have I believe.

  • @user-mm5hj5ig6x
    @user-mm5hj5ig6x 29 днів тому +8

    And I’m here trying to get the chiaki to work on my steam deck out of network.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому

      I never used chiaki out of network before.

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 15 днів тому

      They just updated Chiaki to make this much easier

  • @alphabeta898
    @alphabeta898 19 днів тому

    I'm playing Manor Lords on my Steamdeck looks amazing.

  • @gatorpaul300
    @gatorpaul300 27 днів тому

    So you inspired me to try this, I actually used this a lot back in Beta since I have had a shield tv for like 6 years. One question, I have loaded and tested several games but Cyberpunk 2077 is asking me to install as opposed to just playing like every other game. Any idea what is going on?

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  27 днів тому

      That I'm not sure about I've never had that issue.

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass 28 днів тому +7

    It would be nicer if they could release it on Steam or as a flatpack instead of a script, to have the extra security and easier install. But at least it is fairly easy to install with the script and hopefully nothing bad happens to the script (neither maliciously nor accidentally). They have a manual install one can check without having to look at the script itself to figure out what it does.
    If it was released on Steam or flatpack it probably can also easier have per device settings saved compared to running in a modified internet browser.
    Nvidia also started to have employees officially help with their GPUs open source drivers for Linux, so it interesting all the pro Linux things Nvidia has done recently with this too.

  • @01kmacias
    @01kmacias 29 днів тому +5

    You have some great videos. I wish your titles were more descriptive though. I’d probably watch more because I’d have an idea of the topic.

  • @hugohserrano
    @hugohserrano 28 днів тому

    I’ve been using the browser solution for over a year. It has worked flawlessly. The only issue I have is no HDR support :(

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому

      I don’t know why the terminal command never worked for me.

  • @Mango256
    @Mango256 28 днів тому

    Is this any better than running Sunshine/Moonlight streaming with the Deck because that seems to work well already, I play most games that for battery life

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому +1

      Depends on your hardware. This is equivalent to a 4080

  • @finraziel
    @finraziel 28 днів тому +2

    I like the idea of GeForce now and I might even consider ditching my big expensive and power hungry PC to just use that... If it could just work the way Nvidia originally set it up. That is, just work as if it's your PC, just running somewhere else, but have ALL your games. Unfortunately greed interfered and publishers didn't think that just because you owned the game you had the right/license to play it on a cloud system, so more and more games got pulled from the service and now games specifically have to opt in on supporting GeForce now.
    I just checked some of the games that I still have on my list of games I really want to play at some point and there are just too many that are not available on GeForce now... Like Hogwarts legacy, armored core VI, all the Sony games, Jedi survivor, any final fantasy, even Dave the diver (though that could just run on the steam deck, but just to illustrate)... I honestly find more games that don't show up on Nvidia's check page than that do, and I'm looking for big titles here.
    Some of these can be played on other cloud services (which of course is the whole point) but I'm not going to pay for multiple services or constantly switch around what I'm paying for (not to speak of dealing with different levels of quality and ways to use the service). That just makes it a lot less appealing and I'll just stick with local hardware.
    It's kinda funny and sad to see the gaming industry making the same mistakes as the movie/series streaming services, with everyone guarding their IP jealously on their own platforms, effectively chasing people away from streaming entirely.

    • @cherokee180c0
      @cherokee180c0 26 днів тому

      If this is the case, this is a major deal breaker for me. What good is it if I can’t run half my library. Almost everything I am buying right now is specifically to run on the SD, and if the game doesn’t, well that is the loss of the publisher and no skin off my back. I have a massive backlog of games to play already with not enough time so caring much about a new game that is overpriced, not optimized and never works correctly upon release is their problem not mine. I will wait a year and pick up the finally working properly version for half the price. Agree with you that this sounds so promising, but like everything else publishers seemed to have screwed it up

  • @Kekeripo
    @Kekeripo 28 днів тому

    Would be dope if the "stream game from pc in the network" was a bit more fleshed out, maybe with a new steam link. WOuld be amazing to make a closet gaming rig somewhere in your home and enjoy juicy optics at home or even on the go, which would kinda be like a home base geforce now, just with your own crap and library.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому

      You can already do this. It’s built into Steam OS

  • @Nucleosynthese
    @Nucleosynthese 29 днів тому +4

    Wow, having acces to an RTX 4080 on your Mac or Steam Deck is insane. 😅

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 28 днів тому +1

      Exactly. Anyone who has aged pc and don't want to spend $2000 for a new 4080 desktop and has with a good internet then this is a deal.

  • @kirtap2060
    @kirtap2060 28 днів тому +1

    It's worth installing it when my wifi speed is 1.8MB/s ? 😅
    I tried to turn on Steam remote play a long time ago and let's just say...I didn't even turn on the game's menu.

    • @Daniel__Nobre
      @Daniel__Nobre 28 днів тому

      I’m a layman on this, but I know they have settings to cope with low speeds, (I’ve used it in Hotels with their crap wifi networks and it’s usually a crappy experience), but I think higher speed than that is recommended.
      But maybe if you can play as close to the rooter as possible, and since the Deck’s resolution goes only up to 800p, you may still have a cool experience.

  • @lukeovenden6708
    @lukeovenden6708 28 днів тому +36

    Dude I like the videos, but please try giving them better titles, it just feels a bit like clickbait, and doesn’t tell me anything about the content of the video

    • @2greenify
      @2greenify 26 днів тому +6

      Same, often ignoring the video's because it's always clickbait

    • @Septoleaf
      @Septoleaf 25 днів тому

      Just a suggestion, you could use DeArrow to un-clickbait :’)

    • @shogeku1
      @shogeku1 25 днів тому +1

      Saw it on the podcast. He changed it later. Clever if intentional because it generates engagement. I’m not commenting on it anymore beyond this. only posting so people consider skipping if the pattern continues. If it’s unintentional, just add one of the video topics to the title.

    • @benlyle3593
      @benlyle3593 25 днів тому +2

      Exactly

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 15 днів тому

      Blame the algorithm. UA-cam have actually been penalising people for having descriptive titles

  • @cherokee180c0
    @cherokee180c0 26 днів тому

    Can somebody inform me on what the exact usage case is that brings any value for GeForce now? I have PS5 and Xbox Series X streaming locally when in my house with perfect performance on Wife 6E. I have Gamepass remote play anywhere in the world with XBplay. The only thing I really lack is Chiaki4Deck remote play ability outside my house, which I could set up, but since I travel to AU a lot, the lag would kill me anyway. What does GeForce now bring to the table as it is only for games I own anyway and could run locally on the SD when on travel. What am I missing here? What I really need is PSplus remote streaming from PlayStation as I am playing a ton of RPG’s for free through that service including DQ11S, multiple Star Ocean titles, FF XV, FF SIPO etc.

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 15 днів тому

      I mean. Not everyone has a PS5 or Xbox Series X so clearly would have more benefit for them. Nonetheless it provides far better battery life than playing locally, higher graphical fidelity and performance and adds compatibility for games that can’t run on the deck. For example, I play a lot of Destiny 2. With GeforceNOW I can use my deck to play it. In my experience it is more reliable than Xbox Remote play too and doesn’t then clog up my Xbox so my partner can still use it to play or watch shows. Maybe there are less benefits for you, given your set up. But there are many benefits to others. Not to mention, it has a free tier. So a useful tool

  • @Andorski
    @Andorski 18 днів тому

    I'd be way more interested if saves were stored on Steam Cloud and could be transferred if I decide to buy the game.

  • @lifeisriodisciple9229
    @lifeisriodisciple9229 29 днів тому +1

    What type of wifi do you use?

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  29 днів тому

      Google WiFi. Not nest. The One before that

  • @jimmyhazard
    @jimmyhazard 28 днів тому

    I've had GeForce Now since it launched and it's been good and only getting better! I wish the UI was better, that's all.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому

      I wish devs would get out of their own way and put all their games in the service.

  • @whoslou2714
    @whoslou2714 28 днів тому

    Do you have to have a pc to have geo force now? I don’t have a pc just a steam deck and my wifi isn’t super great

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому +1

      Without good WiFi you’ll have a bad experience

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 27 днів тому

      The Geforce Now app has a connection test for your location. It tests your bandwidth , packet loss and latency. I met all three recommended measurements.
      Over 50 Mbps bandwidth , less 1% packet loss and under 40 ms latency is recommended.

  • @BloodSh1ne
    @BloodSh1ne 28 днів тому +3

    you can actually play only in steam deck resolution (1280x800) , higher resolution gives you input lag, unplayable.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому +2

      I lowered my resolution to 800p, but when I tried higher resolutions I didn't notice any lag. I'm struggling to see why a higher resolution would cause latency, the stream is still being sent to you at 800p, no matter what you choose (on the steam deck).

    • @BloodSh1ne
      @BloodSh1ne 28 днів тому +1

      @@NerdNest cause i play with my steam deck on dock, so 1080p on my TV 🙂

    • @NewyorkNewyork57
      @NewyorkNewyork57 28 днів тому

      @@BloodSh1ne that don't make sense

    • @gerboog
      @gerboog 23 дні тому

      @@BloodSh1nedude... the lag is caused by you playing on a TV lmao.

    • @BloodSh1ne
      @BloodSh1ne 23 дні тому

      @@gerboog nope. without this script, webapp works well on 1080p on TV with dock

  • @lonthroop
    @lonthroop 19 днів тому

    I really like your videos and have learned so much about my steam deck. However, this GeForce install was not good. Encountered locked screen, had to restart, stuck at verifying installation and then most of my Deckyloader apps didn't work. "unidentified" error. removing and reinstalling didn't help. I deleted GeForce. A pretty bad experience that made me feel like my SD might have been bricked. I don't recommend.

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 15 днів тому

      I hear you. And sorry you had that experience. But none of that could have been caused by the script that runs here

  • @substance90
    @substance90 24 дні тому

    That 40+ ms ping though 😬 on GFN anything beyond 20-25 ping feels very sluggish to me.

  • @Steelninja77
    @Steelninja77 29 днів тому

    I was gonna say i just use the steam button to close anything why would that not work. But it does.

  • @CharlesTersteeg
    @CharlesTersteeg 28 днів тому

    great tutorial, teachers rule!

  • @ninawilleboisdesigns
    @ninawilleboisdesigns 28 днів тому +3

    Would be nice to know what GeForce now is, for those that don’t know. 😅 Game newbie

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому +3

      Streams gameplay to you from their data centers with powerful computers. You’re right I should have mentioned that. Sorry.

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 28 днів тому

      We are nerds so we assume everyone is nerdy and forget some people don't know what Geforce Now is.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому +1

      I’m usually pretty good about that. Dropped the ball.

  • @mvzpodcast
    @mvzpodcast 29 днів тому +3

    I feel like this is missing something. I'm trying to follow step by step and with zero Linux knowledge, all it opened up was a text file

  • @AtrusDesign
    @AtrusDesign 27 днів тому +1

    They should just do an app for Linux.

  • @TheHappyKamper
    @TheHappyKamper 26 днів тому

    As much as I like the music, I found it super distracting in this video. Just some feedback, keep up the great work!

  • @ShanGamer1981
    @ShanGamer1981 29 днів тому +6

    Seems complicated

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  29 днів тому +4

      You only have to do this once. Though I hope we don't have to wait another two years for updates.

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому +1

      It’s really not as complicated as it sounds

  • @liborhorvath6073
    @liborhorvath6073 17 днів тому

    Can anyone tell me ifs geforce will work on steam deck lcd ,thank u

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  17 днів тому

      Yes, it will work fine on LCD deck.

  • @elBrando22
    @elBrando22 28 днів тому

    Whats the point of using GForce now?

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 28 днів тому +4

      Let say someone is on a budget and have an out of date PC. This PC (desktop or laptop) can play indy and older titles but not current triple A titles. They would like to play demanding games on a 4080 for example which cost $20 a month. On Amazon a prebuilt 4080 desktop is $2000. That means you can pay GeForce Now for 100 months for the cost of owning a prebuild PC.
      If you already paying for a good internet connection GeForce Now can be a good option instead buying a new pc.

    • @ChangedEver
      @ChangedEver 28 днів тому +1

      ​@smidlee7747 so true. My GPU is getting older and I can't play some games without having to purchase a 400 dollar gpu.

  • @ricky_pigeon
    @ricky_pigeon 29 днів тому +4

    can someone explain how is this different from remote play?

    • @ufailowell
      @ufailowell 29 днів тому +1

      geforce now runs your games on their high end computers. So depending on
      your set up it will be higher latency but potentially higher settings too

    • @ricky_pigeon
      @ricky_pigeon 29 днів тому +1

      @@ufailowell oh okay. it sounds niche. thanks for the reply.

    • @tylerabel372
      @tylerabel372 28 днів тому +3

      It is cloud gaming. Remote play usually requires a home device running the game you are connecting to. Such as PS5, or PC. So, with this a company provides the power to run the game instead of your own separate device you are connecting to. Does that make sense?

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому

      @@ricky_pigeonI wouldn’t say it’s niche. A LOT of people have the Steam Deck as their main PC or simply don’t have a gaming PC to remote play from. This gives them a 4080 in the cloud

  • @RealCelticGamer
    @RealCelticGamer 29 днів тому +2

    Streaming games over an internet connection is not ideal.

    • @Zeft64
      @Zeft64 29 днів тому

      You’re right but does it matter if the game is turn based? No not really.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  29 днів тому +4

      I played all of Doom Eternal on streaming. It works great for any game.

    • @finraziel
      @finraziel 28 днів тому +1

      It really depends on your internet connection and how fast the service is. I haven't used GeForce now but I've used Xbox gamepass streaming. When Forza horizon 5 was new I found it unplayable due to inputlag, felt like I was drunk swerving across the road because I was always too late to start or stop steering. But later on Microsoft improved something and I just couldn't tell there was any lag at all anymore.
      But I live in a small country with great internet connectivity and lots of local data centers. If you live somewhere with worse internet or the data center is far away, the experience will be a lot worse.

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому

      Completely depends. Sure it’s not ideal for competitive FPS. But then you likely won’t be using a steam deck for that anyway. Think you’d be surprised if you haven’t tried it first a while. I play Destiny 2 raids all the time using this. Input lag is almost imperceptible. I actually find it far better than using an Xbox for example

    • @ChieffBooGames
      @ChieffBooGames 28 днів тому +1

      I’ve been promoting GeForce for months. It’s absolutely incredible.

  • @MasterMMM703
    @MasterMMM703 19 днів тому

    Sadly my mobile internet not good for this

  • @SFpurphaze
    @SFpurphaze 29 днів тому +4

    I always think this is tom segura...poor vision

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  29 днів тому +6

      Nope, its me, see you at my show in Cleveland

  • @jimcachero
    @jimcachero 28 днів тому

    Sounds like a lot but really… is a lot.

  • @believei-must5092
    @believei-must5092 27 днів тому +1

    Um you guys do know it’s in the Discovery Store now…. It’s unofficial but it was user friendly and plays really well…

  • @PublyoRaymundo
    @PublyoRaymundo 28 днів тому +2

    Nothing changed, they just provide a script to automate the setup =/.
    It is literally the same as was before.

  • @Kinos141
    @Kinos141 29 днів тому +1

    The only thing that annoys me about GeForce now is that you have to own the games. I had like Xbox Game Pass because, for a subscription, you can play games that you don't have to buy. I wonder what it would take to get that kind of functionality in GeForce Now.

    • @Flobert16
      @Flobert16 28 днів тому

      Most people hate, subscriptions. I will always prefer ownership on steam. I own my saves games and screenshot. And I can play the on the GeForce now and stop it when I want and not lose everything like Stadia did. It would be stupid to remove that functionality.

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 28 днів тому

      @@Flobert16 I agree. You can save some money on Gamepass playing $70 game for a few months that you will never play again but playing a game like Vampire Survivors for a month ( a total of a month over time) costs you more than owning the game. Play Vampire Survivors for a month on Gamepass $10 , buying it on Steam $5.
      Gamepass is still a good deal if you play a few on the newer titles. Persona 3 Reload I played for two months and didn't play for a month on Gamepass so it cost me $30 .. but of course I don't own the game. Yet by the time if I want to play it again it will on sale for maybe $30.
      I calculate half the price of a new game to determine if I got my money worth on Gamepass to continue paying for it. As long as I break even I'm happy.
      Now I'm playing Eiyuden Chronicles: Hundred Heroes which is $50. Half that is $25 thus if I finish it in 2 1/2 months I broke even.

    • @kennypowers1945
      @kennypowers1945 27 днів тому

      @@Flobert16nah most people like subscriptions at least where I live. I wish we got access to more games

  • @168original7
    @168original7 15 днів тому

    Just use your phone , why buy a handheld if you re just gonna use a streaming service

  • @orian-x
    @orian-x 29 днів тому

    To me stadia is gone and cloud gaming wet with it. I tried them all.
    I'll stay with real hardware and PC

  • @mart182003
    @mart182003 28 днів тому +1

    “I was playing on my Mac” Silly goose Mac’s can’t game 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Steelninja77
    @Steelninja77 29 днів тому

    Geforce now is great and I have an account (not paid) but tbh I never use it co's My PC plays games native 4k ultra in 95% of games if not 1440p for the other 2 to 5% and my Rog ally plays most games 1080p high settings so usually play games that won't run on my Decks on my ROG ally or PC. But it's great for people who only own a deck.

  • @B3anBag98
    @B3anBag98 28 днів тому

    South Africans, just know ur SOL.. There is no free teir here, it's only hosted by Rain Mobile and therefore costs a fair amount pm, then on top of that, its sold out since its beta for the past 2 years.. So this just takes you to a forced paid service through the worst ever mobile carrier in the country... so GGs no fun here in SA.. Greedy Mobile operator and Government.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому

      Yikes. That’s terrible.

  • @Lycan3303
    @Lycan3303 29 днів тому +1

    gaming on MAC 🤣

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому +2

      I don’t understand what’s funny here

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  28 днів тому +3

      Some people just have to hate on Mac because tribalism.

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому +2

      @@NerdNest definitely. Something I’ll never understand to this day 🤷‍♂️

  • @zoltanschweifer4304
    @zoltanschweifer4304 16 днів тому

    This app is bullshit trillion dollar company is bullshit. On my phone I can get 120fps 1440p hrd and I can dock it and it works. On Steam deck its running 60 fps 1080p no hdr. And also docked isn't working as well.

  • @mrburns366
    @mrburns366 29 днів тому +1

    It's hilarious all the hoops people jump through just so they don't have to use Windows.. 🙄 lol

    • @hooky17
      @hooky17 28 днів тому +1

      What’s this got to do with Windows? Hell I use GeForce NOW, ON windows.

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 28 днів тому

      Microsoft who owns Windows is also into cloud gaming. Where have you been?

  • @jcc4543
    @jcc4543 28 днів тому +1

    For 2 years and Steamdeck is outdated

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 27 днів тому

      All PC handhelds are outdated compared to the performance of a gaming desktop.

    • @amiciagaming4159
      @amiciagaming4159 24 дні тому

      Steamdeck is good if you want to play previous gen games, most of the New games or future games cant run by steamdeck

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 24 дні тому

      @@amiciagaming4159 That's true with all the PC handhelds. The Ally and Go has a general purpose apu found in mini-pc and laptops
      There are a lot of good games that has no problem running on these handhelds. The games that seems to get the most attention is the most demanding games that these handhelds struggle with.

  • @alexandrukubelbock3308
    @alexandrukubelbock3308 20 днів тому