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"i dont have expensive tastes" - a man who plays Warhammer
With that blizzard sponsorship he could have bought a few milliliters of Games Workshop paint!
Lamborgini prices get you quite a lot of Warhammer.
This is exactly what i was thinking about
yeah, he doesn't have expensive tasteS
he just has one expensive taste :p
I feel like a "taste" is different froma "hobby" most hobbies are expensive, you need materials to support it.
For example: I'm a dude working at a factory in a third world country, I live in a room shared with my brother, I know hunger and my room gets too warm in summer and too cold in winter... but you know what I have? an Ipad to do digital art because I love art, I have imported comic books, art books and illustrations made by artists I admire because I love it, I play videogames even tho they're a luxury overe here... it's part of the hobby and I still know how to save money.
Despite that, I can safely say that I don't have expensive tastes, everything else in my life is modest and I'm comfortable that way.
JoshStifeGains ends up being Josh exercising on top of a game table.
we must all continue to live a whelming life
Your integrity is appreciated Josh. :)
Josh having a gilded toilet is exactly what I believe now.
If you have your Warhammer play area setup in your gym, it there has to be a game rule that the loser has to do like 25 reps after each match XD
Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise, you’re first-monitor content. Easily in a small window off to the side.
Josh is "phone propped up on keyboard" third screen content 👀 😜
luckily for josh, i only have one monitor, so everything is first-monitor content!
Ah yes, the wonders of 21 / 32:9. What an upgrade for Josh.
He's "on the phone while I'm poopin" to me.
The money itself is a trap
Josh should just do a super sell-out video every April fools, then not bring up anything said in the video until next year when he does it again.
I am all for this it'd be hilarious. Do the biggest corporate shill video possible once per year, just line up all the sponsorships to all land on April 1st.
100% like just sell 30 sponsorships for whatever dog ass company offers money, make an absolutely unwatchable video that's more advertising than video, then go back to normal and never talk about it
Josh likes shitposting enough I could see him do this 😂
Actually good idea
" i don't have super expensive taste for stuff " - a warhammer plastic enjoyer
Plus mtg enjoyer
As a VOD watcher, that graphic is such a treat
I don't edit much more, but I try to only add and edit when it ACTUALLY ADDS SOMETHING to the video. Like here for the reference, glad its worth it :D
I also only watch the UA-cam channel and appreciate all you do
Am I blind? I don't see any graphic
Meanwhile the parallel universe JSH called Dosh Strife Hayes listening to this video on his gilded toilet, wiping his ass with $100:
"You have no clue what you're missing. This shit is incredible. Literally and figuratively."
"Dosh Strife Hayes"
Have my upvote funny internet bloke
Dosh Strife Gets Paid
Thrall: Josh, come home....
Josh: I was alliance....
Thrall: We're all friends now.....
"We're all Alliance now."
It’s all Ogre now
thrall: For just a small sum of RL money you can be horde...
"We don't understand how years of brutal wars and centuries of conflict work within humanoid brains... so we have a """"peace"""" now and all the thousands of wounds wrought over dozens of cultures from centuries of very real conflicts amongst Azeroth from slavery, to mass war r-word are just forgotten and forgiven with no discussions or underlying plots, etc, bc big demon boy bad we gotta focus yall, lmao."
@@Spicy_Spores That isn't unusual for the horde, though. In Warcraft 3, Reign of Chaos (not even the expansion, the base game) the final mission has the horde allying with the humans and night elves to stop Archimonde. Its been a thing since the beginning, at least as early as 2002. This was long before the events of World of Warcraft and Thrall obviously remembers that sometimes the combined strength of all Azeroth is required to save it from annihilation (he was there when Archimonde almost destroyed Azeroth).
It isn't so much of a peace as it is a cease fire while they deal with a much more powerful threat than either faction is on their own.
'not everything has to be business' said the man in a suit vest and shirt.
This integrity is why i watch josh.
It's refreshing.
exactly! and yet he maintained the seriousness without denigrating the company behind
sometimes you have to accept that the higher up the rungs of power & money you climb the more idiots, politics, & bs you have to wade through. It's extremely rare that a situation arises where you get a Larian studios. To live you have to accept some BS and support the good people in a bureaucratic organization.
OF for Josh: Josh Strife Lays where he does the same what is he doing here, but laying instead of sitting
YES.
There are tons of SFW OnlyFans accounts, it is possible.
Even better, it's just this but the camera is angled 90 degrees to make it look like he is laying down.
@@D3th10rd Genius. Work smarter, not harder.
The most valuable advertising Blizzard could do is just start treating its customers like humans.
Clearly you haven't met the average WoW player. They aren't humans.
@Sephiroso. Well seems you are lower than that.
Don't look at other groups as lower than your group.
WoW is the casual mmo with a hard-core top they don't combine and you find only toxicity where they meet
...customers and employees
@@Sephiroso.as a wow player can confirm I’ve mutated beyond mutual species
I'll never forget when a blizz employee told us our yearly sub doesn't even afford their toilet paper.
"If you don't stand up for what you believe in, eventually you have to admit you don't believe in it."
The man simply does not miss
I was one of those goofy folks that was raised on the old depression-era radio programs even though it was half a century before my time. The thing that always stuck out to me is that the pillars of entertainment and comedy like Jack Benny, Abbott and Costello, Benny Goodman etc? They all had advertisers, they were all sponsored, but they always made them entertaining. Fifty years after their programs were recorded, it's still fun to listen to them talk about Lucky Strike or Pepsodent because they made it into a skit, a play or a bit.
That's what I think a lot of modern UA-camrs don't consider when they take the payday and just read whatever was given to them. If it's dry, if it's just a straight ad, then it tremendously dates their media. If I watch a video a decade from now, will I be cringing at a creator waxing lyrical about Raid: Shadow Legends?
I appreciate you caring about the way your videos will be viewed in the future, Josh.
For example I would never skip Internet Historian's or Noodle's ads. They are deranged masterpieces, all of them... top kek state of art ads 😋👌
Yeah, memelord ads are a blast
This is what I like about Arlo, a Nintendo UA-camr. He turns most of his Raycon ads into skits. I don't like Raycon, but I almost always watch Arlo's ads.
You know the funny thing? I discovered you by watching your old Worst MMO Ever series, starting all the way back with just after League of Angels (so episode 3, I think), and I can 100% corroborate that your videos back then were bangin' back then too. Your video format, comedic inserts, informative gameplay, and ability to craft a narrative are timeless, and can be enjoyed be it 4 years ago, or today, just like you've shot for.
There are certain sponsorships that i know when these people take...they sacrifice some credibility, Raid shadow legends is one example....it is not a good game at all and has all the issues and problems that mobile gaming has in general. However I know how much they can and do offer and tbh in my case would likely be more then my channel has earned in its lifetime
I'm actually thinking about making a video showing all the terrible systems RSL has (I've worked for 7 years in the gaming industry, for two major companies, and can spot bad and good designs immediately), and start with "This video is NOT sponsored by Raid etc", and then dump on it with all I got. Unless they pay me a million not to do it. 😂
@@thrrax The gameplay itself is as basic as you can get and any games that offer autoplay has a problem, but everything around it with the upgrading and getting new characters and the sheer amount of currencies and menus and screen frankly is ludicrous and i know that is by design
@@EastyyBlogspot I've seen content creators I respect take a sponsorship from them, and everything depends on the situation of the streamer/content creator. Sometimes it is a streamer who has a kid, and in that case, I'm like "yeah, I get it, you've got a family to feed", but some who are only streaming for fun, well, that's questionable. Like I don't wanna see Felicia Day advertising Raid Shadow Legends. Unless she's in a physical commercial for it, as her character from the Guild, cause that would be funny.
@@eboethrasher Do they actually need it to feed their family or is it just a nice bonus for them?
@@eboethrasher i tend to always give people the benefit of the doubt. as long as they aren't someone who publicly flexes/blows money/etc. i assume there's probably something going on in the background that's none of my business, like medical bills. as long as it isn't constant
The gamer Supps sponsor, selling energy drinks on a channel that creates content on a sedentary hobby. Viewed by a majority of people who likely live sedentary lifestyles. I'm not against people getting sponsors, but don't hide behind morality when your hocking caffeinated sugar water.
I do agree with what you’re saying but if you genuinely use and enjoy the product you’re being paid to sponsor I think it’s a little different. I will say that although most of these people do live sedentary lifestyles, they’re going to drink sugary caffeinated garbage one way or another. Asmongold doesn’t even have a sponsorship and he downs soda more than normal humans drink water. If they gave him a Dr. Pepper sponsorship deal there’d really be nothing that wouldn’t have influenced his viewers anymore than they already were by his consumption of Dr. Pepper.
Did Josh just low-key reference Mean Girls?
"I know you can be overwhelmed, and I know you can be underwhelmed, but can you ever just be whelmed?"
That’s from “10 things I hate about you” not Mean Girls
I think you can in France.
I am continually whelmed good sir.
I don't subscribe to the notion that we shouldn't shit on content creators because they have to make a living.
Foreign investors buying up our homes and ruining our market have to make a living. Executive employees of publishers that ruin games have to make a living. Scalpers have to make a living. Where is the line? They are all legal.
My point is, we are supposed to be able to trust the word of an influencer to say what they mean. We follow them for years building trust for them only for them to betray us for money by pretending they are actually invested in raid shadow legends, by tricking us into believing its a console quality rpg.
If you're an influencer promoting raid shadow legends, you should be treated similarly to a criminal.
Wow is kinda desperate, but Jesus Christ after seeing all that virtue signal and diversity quotas on the alpha build of their next expansion I simply couldn't keep watching...
It's amazing their commitment to doing everything except fixing their game and putting the effort required to make it the Titan it once was again, especially considering they have all the resources the could possibly imagine to make it so. Wild behaviour, lmao.
Gigachad GoG showing how good they are without even knowing.
And then they released Cyberpunk and destroyed that image in an instant.
@@nhagan001 Haha yeahhh righttttt
@@nhagan001 Well not really. That's the funny things about companies. GOG is owned by CD Projekt Red but GOG is not CD Projeckt Red. So the failures of CD Projekt Red shouldn't reflect on GOG.
That's like saying Microsoft failures would also reflect on all the many studios that Microsoft owns when that isn't the case.
@@Sephiroso. that doesn’t change the fact that CDPR went from being the ones decrying bad strategies, to employing the strategies themselves.
They proved who they were with Cyberpunk, and what they were was a company only pretending to be for the consumer.
@@nhagan001 And the biggest laugh is people actually fell for that. Companies don't care about you. Never have and never will.
Blizzard has done a much better job as of late with WoW. Both retail and Classic’s reception have been largely positive from the player base. I have been enjoying the game quite a lot and would love to see you cover it in the future. That time is not now though. The major glaring issue the game still has is its new player experience, which has been severely lacking as most of Blizzards resources have been spent fixing the end game issues that plagued the game for the last several expansions.
Their solutions have largely been successful as retention rates are the highest they’ve been in years.
I’m excited to see what the current wow team will do to revitalize the new player experience, (they’ve already said it’s on their to do list) and when it does, I would love to see your honest thoughts on how the game feels.
i enjoy you because your genuine, you know your morals & that you have a limit and are not false in hiding and knowing that limit. Inspiring. I wish you the best
It’s the Betterhelp and the meal prep ones I hate. All meal prep food tastes the same but you have tons of boxes, plastic, and cooler gel to dispose and Betterhelp has a bad rep.
I still don't understand meal prep ones. Is salad really that hard or long to make? Half f the time the same dishes are "bad for you" and "healthy" at the same time. Betterhelp and so on are bullshit anyway. WIth the help they provide - the best actual help would be to wind down and go for a walk. That would be healthier. Unless you live in a warzone, then it's better to do something productive and keep yourself busy.
6:38 It's like taking blood money, or dirty money and thinking using it for something good makes it all better.
It's an extreme comparison
You could have taken the world of warcraft sponsorship and then shit on the game and get blacklisted :D
Josh's integrity is a major reason why I and so many others love him. If he started doing game sponsorships all the time for random games I'd have a lot less interest in the channel.
At the same time your strategy is a business strategy in itself. You're very succesful, you built a large, dedicated audience that highly regards your opinions.
That's incredibly valuable and the fact you're not selling it out to every dogwater mobile games that come along does makes it more exclusive which is how you attract contracts like the WoW one.
I'm impressed you didn't take it, wouldn't had blamed you for it but i can see why.
Take Blizzards money and do a worst MMO ever for WoW
"If you don't stand up for what you believe in eventually you have to admit that you don't believe in it."
So much this. I usually say: if your beliefs never inconvenience you then you may as well not even have them.
I'd actually be really interested in seeing Josh's take on War Within. WoW is having a bit of a glow up lately, be nice to see a critical take.
Every single expansion we do this. Every time.
@aspiringnormie9499 you're not wrong :( before this week I hadn't played since a month into dragonflight and I said I'd never fall for the new expansion hype again but I can feel it slowly gnawing at me, to the point I resubbed last week and actually enjoying it a little bit... Gah
People have been saying literally the same thing before Shadowlands launch lmao.
But we have a little bit of a foundation this time. BfA and Shadowlands were mindlessly hyped but dragobflight Was actually good. It was modest and humble. The setting was goofy but for the first time in like ever, Blizzard is confident enough to Release Player data. And you get like 4 versions of classic for the sub. I aint no Blizzard shill, i hated BFA so much, I didnt buy dragonflight nor shadowlands. But I think we should look at War within a little less sceptical way.
@@Domwyn I'll believe it when I see it. People have been saying that the new expansion looks good for a decade now and the only time it actually turned out to be true was Legion.
i dislike content creators who take bad sponsorships. i mean yeah i still like the content but it always leaves a sour taste to see thrm sell their conscience.
Conscience
Some content creators just want to pay their bills and may not have other avenues for income. In those cases, I understand fully why a content creator would take any sponsorship. Heck, Josh literally said this in his video, not to hate content creators for taking sponsorships.
@@diamondsanchez224 yeah i know josh said that, which is why i said what I said.
I know they have to pay their bills but 1. no one forces them to make yt content 2. most of them have patrons 3. if you can't manage to stay alive without selling out, that's not my problem and 4. there are so many good sponsors you could take instead
@@holysecret2 thanks :) this word always messes me up
@@Soapy-chan @Soapy-chan 1. Yes, they may not be forced to make UA-cam content, but it might be their best avenue of income, or something they genuinely are grinding out to be successful in. People have different situations, in terms of their finances or income.
2. Just because they have Patreons doesn't mean they can completely profit off it. They might not have enough patrons to sustain themselves, especially if they live in an area with a high cost of living.
3. It may not be your problem, but that doesn't mean you have to hate them. I get hating greediness and selling out, but people need money to get by. How would you feel if people hated you just because you took a sponsorship to put food on the table?
4. Content creators can't choose their sponsors. They have to be reached out to by sponsors, then choose whether to accept them or not. Chances are, a small creator would gladly take "good" sponsors, but haven't been reached out to by them.
And he remembered... Guild Wars 2 is better
GOG is Polish and in Poland, verbal agreement is considered legaly binding, so theres that xD
Verbal contract is a contract , but there is always a challenge to prove terms and existence.
@@derrfes Sure it is, but a good company wont try to breach it!
Good thing theres no video XD.
I imagine if its emails as well. so to say theres no contract when theres written terms is a bit off - intent matters for legality, but I see where JSH is coming from. Its not that kind of arrangement, but I consider him "breaching" by not shouting them out would probably just mean they dont give codes, so its simple enough.
I remember Jerma caught a lot of flak for being sponsored by Coinbase for his Dollhouse streams. Apparently it wouldn't have been possible without their finance so it's this weird grey area where you can only get this unique experience by doing a deal with the devil.
There's a lot of value in only promoting products you personally believe in. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, whenever I see a Raid Shadow legends ad I will immediately disregard the authenticity of any and all other promotions by that content creator.
A lot of sponsorships will test the content creator on how well they can lie about a product, especially the ones that mandate the creator to play them. Really dislike that behavior, but at least Raid doesn't make their creators actually play the crap.
@@matrixcom69 Raid doesn't need to make their advertisers play, because there are a lot of whales that constantly make videos, mostly about champions and clan boss teams.
I generally don't care, as long as you're not telling people to gamble their life savings or join a pyramid scheme. It's a crappy mobile game, anyone who's seen thirty seconds of footage can see that. They don't even really use misleading advertising (showing gameplay that doesn't exist) from what I've seen, you can see the game is garbage right there.
I guess I just see it differently. I’m just like oh, they got paid, and skip through it. I’m never trying that game regardless of who’s promoting it lmao.
You are in fact not alone. Raid shadow legends is a legit credibility one shot
Im curious about the gamer sups because their is a clip of you saying "its just powdered caffeinge?!" so why the change and taking on the sponsor?
Integrity? in this economy????
If it meant you playing the game and enjoying it and they're offering drops to the community, then yes, I'm all in. If you're not interested in the game, then good on you for passing.
I assume that's generally the idea. He'll take sponsorships for stuff he's interested in and skip everything else.
@@Wyzai Also, if he really is in need for money he can always drop the Worst MMO ever?- World of Warcraft/ Final Fantasy 14 and the video will blow up and make bank
Dont sell your soul plz, there is already enough commercials in everything.
6:31 Josh makes a good point here. Since UA-cam videos are forever, it's not enough to know that the company you're backing is good _now_ - you want to be confident that they'll be good in the future, too. There are a lot of people who got their start on WoW content who would probably avoid being associated with Blizzard at this point.
You could be genuine, with good content, and take a sponsorship such as World of Warcraft. If/when you take one, just be real and honest with it. This may be a hot take, and this is just MY opinion and nothing more, you're missing opportunities to share your insights on games OTHER people DO care about while also valuing your opinion and input. IMO.
The problem with contracts is that a lot of them have stipulations over what you can and can't say and that effectively means you can't be real or honest with a contract. And it's the reason why so many people seem to turn into totally different people when they do sponsored content.
The point is you cant be really be "honest" in a review if you are getting paid. Its hard to be "honest" even if they dont pay you.
@@dxd15-u1j Blizzard doesn't censor people form what I see people saying about the game, and then still getting sponsorships and interviews with devs and staff. Preach quit playing the game and bad mouthed to hell and back, notoriously went to FFXIV and loved it, talked it up so much, then got interested in WoW again like we all do at some point, and they turned around and offered to fly him out and let him have unprecedented access for interviews with them that he put on his channel. They are working on turning around their image, hard. There might be some things you can't say that are directly derogatory about people, etc, personal attacks, things like that, but I know they value honest opinions.
@@eboethrasher Im mostly talking about self-censorship when you are getting paid. Ofc I am not talking about personal attacks on devs or things like that, that should just never happen. But consider D4 for a moment, they were friends with all the people but the moment they started being criticized they ostracized themselves to only have contact with people that either didn't criticize them or that did it in the lightest way possible.
@@eboethrasher What preach did wasn't a contract, it was a gentleman's agreement like what Josh was talking about with GOG. Preach paid for the entire trip out of pocket in order to get that access. And even then he mentioned several times that they had to send Blizzard their videos before publishing them from that interview so they could be "approved" by Blizzard.
I’d love to see an mmo video of retail wow. But that’s probably not because it’s wow and more because I love Josh’s mmo videos
just how dead wow is that they are so desperate to just buy out everybody lmao
They are building hype for the new expansion. It isn't that dead, they just are taking new approaches with Microsoft being the parent company.
I have a odd question... What is Josh's second monitor content that he watches while he streams? I mean, how unique would it be to see Josh stream, and at the same time randomly react to a video he's watching on the side...
Josh Strife Based
In the voice of Gabriel Iglesias, “Don’t do it!” I would NEVER touch WoW. It just looks extremely goofy and dumb.
Telling a major company with history of shady practices to GFY is the real luxury.
One of my favorite quotes "Principles don't mean anything if they don't cost you something."
Tbh, WoW isn’t that different from RS or ESO in terms of ’ethical’ sponsorships. The game is monetized quite fairly in the modern market, and there is a no cash shop version in the seasonal servers even.
So out of many sponsorships, I think WoW is one of the better ones. Although Blizzard as a company was quite a shit-show apparently, so I understand it if you want to stay away from that. I also respect the fact that if you don’t enjoy WoW, you don’t take a sponsorship from them. That’s character.
Blizzard is better now that they are under Microsoft's wing, and free of the Activision corporate structure that they had to run everything up.
I love that he says this. Dude is genuine asf.
I get your point but tbh it feels kinda weird talking about mmos and not talking or keeping up with what WoW is doing. If they reached out to you they must feel kinda proud of how the beta is going and almost everything I've seen from it has been cool. It would be nice to see your comments on it.
Indeed we'd relegate you to third monitor content if you took an ActiBlizzard sponsorship.
I play WoW, so I wouldn't. I would be interested in hearing him do a genuine take on it, and I know that no matter how well they wanted to pay him, if they have watched his content, they would have to offer him full editorial control to speak on it how he wishes, which plenty of WoW creators already do and still get invited to do things with Blizzard. Oh, and Activision is no longer a thing, really, Blizzard is on their own, under Microsoft's umbrella. They are doing better work because of it. No more chain to have to run stupid shit up. The people on the classic team are doing great work on their Season of Discovery flavor, flexing and doing things on the fly. Unprecedented amount of communication with the players. This isn't the Kotick Blizzard.
Wow bots have been prevalent on social media. @Toadaux
I will let you take sponsorships, but I will judge you depending on what kind of sponsorship you take. There are different kinds of sponsorships, from great(very rare), to okay(95% of indie game sponsorships, nothing malicious, just the product often isn't good), to questionable(Blizzard games), to predatory(Raid:Shadow Legends, gacha crap, gambling) to downright scammy (crypto/NFT schemes). If you take a sponsorship(s) from the latter two and turn it into generational wealth, good for you, I will even agree that you would be stupid to not take it, but you would be forever compromised in my eyes and your word would never have any weight anymore. (and I would probably stop watching you)
Big mistake, brother. I’m never going back to a non-Gilded toilet.
What I really would like to see concerning sponsored content is that sponsors will give money to youtubers to simply talk about their game. Be it positive or negative. If blizzard wants to sponsor Josh then all they do is guarentee that he makes a video on the subject of the war within, be it positive or negative. It would be a lot less insufferable to see sponsored content that doesn't just blindly say "I LOOOOOVE RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!" because let's be honest, who really does?
GOG will be the best for having games with NO DRM, amazing mod compatibility and one of the best honesty. they dont hide reviews or some shit like Steam did with SUICIDE SQUAD
"and i am sure they would offer butt loads of money..."
i feel josh doesnt know blizzard much... from what i hear; they dont pay with money, they pay with the experience of working with blizzard
Not gonna lie, if blizzard sponsored "worst mmo ever: world of warcraft" that could be funny. Eapecially if Josh managed to talk actiblizz into paying him for being honest about the game....
So basically you denied Blizzard but not Bethesda? Ok dude. If people act like this for every company they can't get any sponsorship then. Talking about Hipocricy when accepting a sponsoship from Bethesda whilestill shitting on Blizzard makes no sense really.
RAID SHADOW LEGENDS: Well too bad you could have had a diamond toilet by now. Really watch your integrity get flushed.
Advertising WoW is not a deal with the devil. No matter what it's still biggest MMO in the world and people play it. I can't say it's good or bad, but it's okay to play tbh. So I don't think your audience would judge anything like that. I would freak out if you would advertise Lineage 2 Essense, or some kind of other outo-play mmos.
Now I'm not telling you what to do, but here's my problem with your logic.
You can't rally against something that you don't know the qualities of. You can't just hate the thing categorically. That's what Twitter does and that makes you look unreasonable.
I would much rather a journalist take the offer, play the alpha and then share his honest thoughts.
I think that just saying "No, WoW represents what I'm standing against in the industry so I will not play it and will never change my opinion, because that's not what my audience wants" - which sounds like basically what the logic here is.
And IDK, man. Either your audience is unreasonable and wants echochamber, or you are unreasonable for believing so. 😮
Take the WoW money. A lot of us like the game still and hope it will improve and having more voices tell Blizzard what we'd like to see change is important. NO MORE ADDONS! lol
I think most people wish Blizzard the best with their 3 expansion in 5 years fade out. (at which point they go full mobile company)
I'm just not even sure how many people will be there to see it.
I played for 15 years... and I won't even be watching their UA-cam creator supported content.
I won't ever bash a creator. Ever, for taking a sponsorship. But if they take a cheap, adlibbed scripted sponsorship 4-5 times in a row. I'll definitely roast their ass. If you're gonna make ads for me not to skip. Don't make shit ads.
I don't judge anyone for taking a sponsorship as long as it's not something totally unethical. Even though Blizzard have problems if they drove up to my house with a bag full of money I don't know if my personal morals would outweigh the cash and I like to think I'm a fairly moral person 90% of the time.
I do dislike youtubers that take sponsorships because they take sponsorships that lack integrity like raid shadow legends which none of them think is good and none of them like.
I get how you feel. Do you directly support those youtubers you like to allow them to turn down those sponsorships? It really does make a massive difference.
Something like that is really nothing. You might not like a product but someone may. I feel like as long as these youtuber don't promote something dubious, they have a freeway to use it. And I'm not talking about scam which is without a doubt dangerous and should be burn, I'm talking something like Avast, Temu or other apps that has dodgy background that may affect the user.
If their content is good and you like it, why would you care if they take sponsorships? How do you expect for them to keep making content without getting paid by sponsorships? We all got bills to pay.
Unless they have a profitable patreon or a great income through twitch donations, then they HAVE to take the deals.
And I'm not talking about people who are obviously already rich and clearly are taking sponsorships just cause they're greedy.
Honestly that's a really stupid way of looking at things. You're on UA-cam my dude, do you really think the UA-cam staff or CEO have any integrity? Does it stop you from watching UA-cam altogether?
Would you turn down easy money? And it's a lot of money
You should take the money. You only got one life, ofc if its a sponsor that you think doesnt suit your values at all, you shoulldnt.
But sometimes you need to be a litle bit more radical and rational, i wouldnt unsub if you would state its a sponsorship.
I know its an internal struggle, but people shouldnt be so harsh to judge if you would do it from time to time.
The only questions i would ask myself are:
How often?
From who, and when its starting to rly fool with my integrity?
I know Blizzarrd has a bad rap, but regarding Wow they are improving the game and they will keep doing that.
My 2 cents, is you should take it with the caviat you can get out if they force things you dont agree with it or you feel rly bad internally.
Otherwise, i”d say go for it, you may be surprised or you may be right.
My 2 cents!
seriously. i appreciate the integrity. but just accept 10 sponsorships with the freedom to tell the sponsorship figures or its just heavily sponsored as a disclaimer.
if you do it right your lifespan generate generational wealth and no one will hate you and you didnt sell out... EZ
8 figures is insane and as you call it ARROGANT
You should accept that offer from Blizzard for World of Warcraft because has been, it's and will be the best MMO for years to come, until Ashes of Creatipn will be the next big thing
Wow sponshorship team, Hey josh can you prompt wow for us and we will give you money , Josh Okay Title of video Worst MMO World of warcraft , Was World of warcraft good?
The problem with accepting a sponsorship from a company like Blizzard is that they demand you to give a positive review of something, even if you yourself think its negative.
Now for someone that has build an career on integrity AND negativity this will feel disingenous by the audience and potentially even lose them.
I dont think negativity is the correct word... but i mean the worst MMO ever series, to say something is bad when it is bad, and good when it is good, this fairness (i cant find the correct words :/ ). That is one of the reasons why i keep watching Josh to this day, he is honest. And i think that if he ever "sells out" that this would massivly damage his reputation.
I think you should reconsider WoW's sponsorship, the game is going in a very good direction, now they have a defined team that knows their goals for the future and we really need content creators like yourself giving their fresh take coming into the game as somebody who didn't spam raids/pvp for the past decade. New player experience has a lot to be desired and if you could give your personal take, as a sort of mmo critic, that would be a massive help. It's not all about the money Josh, they picked you, because you're based and I think Blizzard and most certainly more casual wow community cares a great deal about your opinion and how the game could improve.
I just use Sponsorblock
What's that? I've never heard of it
Blizzard if you reading, sponsor a Worst MMO Ever for SOD , win win, good feedback and promo
The arc of Tommy Carcetti (politician played by Aidan Gillen) in The Wire is a good example of the kind of dilemma you're talking about.
GOG is such a fuckin awesome company, keeping servers alive for old games, keeping old games alive in general
love them fr
gotta say tho gamer supps and supplements/energy for gamers is a WILD choice that people make and respectfully i dont think thats a good sponsor that benefits gamers
If he genuinely opens an OnlyFans, he will be my very first (and hopefully only) subscription, 100%.
I wonder why a WoW sponsorship is out of the question when other MMO’s aren’t? Is there any reason that WoW is significantly worse?
They’ve almost all had their controversies and less than ideal monetisation etc. so I wonder what sets WoW apart in your mind.
I’d say get your payday (assuming the contract was above board and they weren’t trying to hide that it was a sponsorship) but I’d love to hear why you didn’t feel like it.
Am not sure The War Within will be any good. I hope it will be but there's a history of misses between expansions, BFA comes to mind. WoD likely should have had that other cut raid tier. Just keep doing what your heart feels is right for good content.
This man often speaks in one-liners/catchphrases without even trying. That's probably where the ethical buttload of money could be made: merch
Continue to whelm
As far as like, taking a sponsorship from say BLIZ or something. You can dislike decisions the company makes, or whatever but if the game or content itself is good, then some times that is a separate issue from the company itself. It's circumstantial. The devs are also not the people running the show, they might actually care.
The problem with a lot of sponsorships... the person taking them does not do any research into the product or company, they just see a lot of zeroes and accept. Otherwise there would be none of these BetterHelp or __VPN read-outs in videos.
I know it is a very tiny thing, but I have started to just hit the thumbs-down button on any of those and, depending on the rest of the content, just find something else to watch. Making comments does not change their mind and they will still promote scams and read out corporate fear tactics to get their big sponsored pay-out. :(
I am a man of principles and I fully respect you for being that same way. But I’d always be down to watch you play Warcraft
haha wow bad
I dunno, for me it's not that deep. If you disclose that content is sponsored what does it matter really what the product is. You doing it because you got paid, it's like working a job you don't like. You can always endorse products you really believe in for free.
i bet blizzard is punching the air. well. they wont buy everyone. i guess the day josh will take money for sponsorship will be when WOW2 comes out so never
I really don't care about sponorships as long as you aren't promoting something bad like BetterHelp. I honestly respect taking sponsorships because it's nice to see youtubers I like get stacks of cash for the minute of the video I can skip over. I love seeing people I respect be rewarded. Unfortunately integrity can't buy you a comfy retirement haha
As a legal recruiter i benefit from this..the corporate side helps me...would i prefer it otherwise...so much. Gentleman's agreement works so much better
Yea, but imagine how many bits of plastic you could buy from Games Workshop 🤔🤔🤔
My solution would be if I was to sell out, it would be for enough money that I'd be set for life and never have to sell out again and could make the content I wanted. That said, I doubt multi-million dollar sponsorships come along every day, even for Josh.
You don't necessarily have to sell out either, if you were going to be offered a huge sum of money that you could use to benefit someone or something else, you could be like "I'll take it but I'm going to tell my audience why". Not just pretend you suddenly approve entirely of something you didn't up until now.
Idk maybe it’s just me but I can’t help but ask the question “why make a video out of this?”. The whole thing screams virtue signalling to me. I don’t doubt that josh is a great guy and that he genuinely means what he says, but I can’t help but think that this entire video is just a virtue signal