Oh dude With the armour hitbox update coming in like 5 weeks, even pump action shotguns will be crazy good. Cause every little bit not protected by a plate can get blasted
I think the MP5-K should get the sawed-off treatment and be moved to the secondary slot. Also, the tacticool sprint animation is too sick to not want to use it.
Agreed. Honestly imo ppl are using it wrong, and so is Tarkov. If just one SMG deserves the ability to slot into the sidearm slot, it's this thing. It's really only useful as a last resort if someone pushes you, similar to pistols, but it has the ability to hold that glorius 50 round mag, and with a much lower fire rate, not turn into the spray and pray shitshow that firing a Glock 19C becomes... Underrated as a backup option.
@@thesaul9484 I did not know that. Thank you for enlightening me! Hopefully it got the quick swap feature that pistols got. And if not, it should have it! Also, being able to put it in your rig and hotkey it means that it’s the only firearm you can conceal. All other weapons either are in your pistol holster or on your shoulder.
If nikita wanted to give the pump shotguns at least a niche then he could add more specialized shells which normally wouldn't cycle in semi autos this also includes flechette so thatll help bridge the gap a little
That would solve two problems in one change (since semi auto flechette is a bit overpowered..), I support this. Then again, I also want them to add the AA12 or another similar automatic shotgun, or at least the Judge revolver shotgun so we can have a more useful sidearm shotgun option. We'll never have Dragon's Breath tho 😢
If nikita cared about shotguns he'd give us a full auto version for the saiga 12 already, instead of a wonky gimmick benelli M3. And he wouldn't have made the cheap sight attachment so floaty with the update. And he wouldn't have made AP-20 craft only. And something can be said about the limb damage nerf as well. Doesn't matter I still only use shotguns (because I love em and also because I can't be arsed to learn to use other guns). And with the armor area update, the AP-20 will shine for sure, we will be so back baby.
I used pistols last wipe for one reason only. Ammo consumption. When you use ammo that is craft-only or mags that take a long time to reload(im looking at you p90)-you don't want to spend it on scavs. I would carry any 9mm pistol and two spare mags and if i had the possibility - i would transition, drop the scav, have fun and just move on. Also - the pistols are both quieter, so as to limit the PMCs ability to hear you from a mile away, and deceiving. They make the enemy think that you are a pistoling, a meal, a kill for a quest. They don't expect to get ripped to shreds with m855a1 or flechette. Also-drip factor. Also-the rare occasion when you get to accidentally drop a pmc with a onetap)
Precisely the reason I use the m45a1. Craft some acp AP ammo. 11 round mags is plenty because your ammo does 66 damage and 38 pen. 10k roubles to buy and it has those nice green dot irons like the 5-7. One batch of acp craft will last you several raids
The key to slow-firing meme weapons is bringing friends so you can up the meme factor and volley-fire. If only there was a tricorn hat as a joke item... I also love how accurate the P90 mags are when it comes to loading them, lol. I have dealt with a semi-auto version once before and they really are that bad.
I actually prefer the APB over the G18 for Stirrup. It's cheaper, comes suppressed, and at least for me, the way it bounced lends to much easier headshots. 20 round mags are small for sure but let's be real I'm not surviving the gunfight long enough to go through 50 rounds if I didnt kill them in the first 5 anyways haha.
The reason to use the m700 is for people who don’t wanna use a mosin (or just wanna use a .308 sniper) but wanna level their sniper skill more efficiently since you have the ability to top-load it, which helps a lot when you have a 10 round mag, and especially the 20 rounder
Aug A1 absolutely slaps at really close range. The high fire rate just shreds and the recoil is actually good because if you are just point firing at the chest area it will swipe back and forth arount the head
The A3 is obviously better but I agree that the Aug(either) should have been ranked higher as if you just add the 20in barrel proprietary suppressor on the a3 I think you get like 40 recoil and 48 ergo with 42rd mags equipped aswell and that total cost is like 120,000ish rubles
@MashPotatoJohns sure, but you only need 5 hits. I generally aim for mid thighs and get solid hits, dropping someone in half a mag. 30 rounds dispensed in 1.5 seconds. By the time they register they are getting shot at, it's too late.
Another video woohoo. Also surprised you didn’t wait till early next year to do this, with the big armor and recoil changes coming at the end of this year. Still thanks for the video. It’s a nice watch right for when I wake up
I hit level 15 recently and the AK74 was really carrying me at first. I built a build with 48 recoil using only parts I found in raid and I also had a laser and an eotech on it. I used it sparingly out of gear fear but it was pretty good and I had enough parts to make a second one as well with maybe a worse sight. I was also able to load its first mag (on a good day) with BS while having BT and BP backup ammo. I’d definitely recommend crafting it early game and just collecting parts for it. Some good stuff to look out for is the Zhukov stock and the VS Combo
Getting BS ammo for it makes 5.45 guns pretty good. I find decent amount of em in ammo spawns, at least in specific spawns like Woods attachment shack (they can be in the grass by the corner of the shack and the green pile of boxes, some might be inside the open crate)
@@micholous definitely. I’ve found 120 rounds of BT and 120 rounds of BP on woods, and I don’t even play the map that much, along with more super expensive ammo.
@@micholous you should sheck out as a pmc or scav on reserve. There is a lot of ammo spawns that regulary spawns bs and bt ammo. I can get around 300 bullets per scav raid of bs and bt, highly consider it!
Which would be funny given that the MP5K is indeed kind of a sawed off MP5 in the first place (not just the barrel but also the receiver is shortened).
One thing to note about the scar h is it can be moded to have better recoil then the 7.62 mdr, however it comes at a slight ergo loss but not much tbh(I think my build is like 58r and 40ish ergo)
I personally used the G36 exclusively this wipe before having reached high enough trader levels to switch to the M4. The 6 vent variant is cheap to mod with lvl 2 traders and gives you a lower recoil than MDR and Aug in my experience this wipe.
no joke i was scaving one day on reserve, spawned with a 74u w/ 45 rnder. unloaded so i could check ammo and kit wasnt big enough to hold so i couldnt pick it back up. ran to big heli so i could loot and found 1911. duo came to f with me like playing with food, taunting an all that thought it was just one so i ran out and hid behind front wheel, he ran through and came out side door where i shot one bullet and head eyes him and he didnt even get to shoot that pretty sig spear one time. his partner then killed me but was still a personal w for me.
You are sort of right about the Benelli M1014/ M4. Benelli uses inertia driven systems is nearly all of their shotguns. While gas systems recirculate the gas to push the bolt back, inertia driven uses the guns natural recoil and a big chonky bolt. You shoot and the gun naturally moves backwards, and while it’s moving the bolt doesn’t open, the bolt opens when the gun frame itself slows and stops moving. I like to say “the bolt is its own thing” because it moves with the gun back into shoulder but when the gun stops moving when your shoulder prevents it the bolt continues moving back because it’s mass and little resistance until it hits the “action spring” sending it back forward, cycling the gun. A very very reliable and clean system, but slower shooting and more felt recoil compared to gas
If anything it needs better muzzle devices and it needs better hidden stats, if the 74ub is going to be god tier the MCX should be comparable but it just feels like a bouncy pile of shit the moment you get anything better. This is coming from someone who mained the MCX for most of this wipe, its ammo is super good and its TTK is retardedly low but it feels terrible because of how bad its camera recoil is and how terrible its recoil pattern is to control
@@theturtlerguy1236most .300 blk rounds in tarkov aren't subsonic. So there wouldn't really be a loss and barrels are just too short and you know bsg added another set of m4 barrels for no reason so they could add 2 barrel options for mcx
Its surreal to see how much i've learned through my 3 wipes. Back then i'd use these videos as a guide, but now I know that this guy isn't really the best source of info for the game but hey thats fine. Man's gotta make content, do what u gotta do.
The whole point of this video is that it’s *his* tier list. This is how he thinks of all the weapons and some people agree, some won’t. He’s not a slave to metas, he’s a slave to what he enjoys.
@@kerrrobertson3699 sure, to each their own, not a diss on him or anyone really. Just complementing what blenky said, I've took these kind of videos from Leviticus as kind of a guide as well. Some of it is sarcasm or his opinion ofc, but some of it seems to be kind of objective and sometimes is just... wrong information. Not a big deal really, just my 2 cents.
Yeah, I especially love the advice on ammo avail making the diff in tier choices. Agreed. Great guide! But for more a) data-based or 2) god-of-pvp cred go to a) Gigabeef then 2) Pestily.
Moral of the story: Ammo is a bigger factor for using a particular weapon than the weapon itself. The best weapon in the world is the one you have ammo for. Surprisingly, this lesson also works in real life.
I don't even play this game and yet I've seen like every video you've made on it. You could probably review shredded cheese from the bag at 3am and I would find it entertaining
40:20 Gotta disagree on the FN40GL being eclipsed by UGBGLs. The underbarrels are nearly impossible to aim, the FN40GL (and the M32) have optics that actually work. Also they enable the ultimate meme build, running T7 thermal goggles with iron sights on the FN40GL (which is pinpoint accurate at 100m). That still leaves the question of "why would you ever need single shot GLs in a weapon slot", because the short distance 40mm grenades are extremely rare now. But I bet there are more end-of-wipe GLs being run for fun, especially once the wipe events start, than there are serious UBGL usage during normal everyday Tarkov play.
@brigadgeneralvoid2508 if you're moving they're near impossible to aim, the irons don't work at all on the AK GL and the M4 GL just doesn't have irons and lasers are super inaccurate
had a weekly to kill 75 scavs with a makarov, so i queued factory with just that, no armor or headset. it was somewhat fun to onetap pmcs with sp7. edit: STM-9 is my baby edit 2: i prefer the RSASS cuz it sounds so goooood
On paper RSASS and SR-25 seem the same with different prices, but the RSASS has some of the best hidden stats in game. Also, if you run marked rooms often youre gonna have a lot of them which are definitly not worth selling to traders. Its insane
Honestly the toz still has that mythical status imo, since you don't really SEE it as often on scavs anymore I swear... like I haven't even *seen* one of them in forever myself, and of the scavs that have it only a select few are the true toz snipers we all fear.
28:00 “I don’t know what they where doing” the funny part ab the AK 12 is that u exactly described its problems in real life - so I think it is perfectly balanced in the game
1. Since Devs nerfed ammo for 5-7 there is no actual reason to run 5-7 since best ammo L191 penetrates 3 class at max. But! 9x21 BT and .45 AP with cheap craft are best ammo for pistols and can penetrate 4 class with high damage like 9x39. So USP and SR-1MP are best pistols that can counter budget main guns. Not played RSH-12 but have a lot of PS-12B ammo. Interesting pistol actually because ASH-12 is trash gun for CQC only. C tier. 2. Same to P90 because you can't get SS109 ammo (craft is quite expensive). SB193 nerfed to shit and L191 is useless ammo in mid-late wipe. Gun itself quite good. C tier. 3. Vector 45 has cheap RIP ammo like good old times - beast gun. And .45 AP is cheapest craft in Workbench.
The one surprise for me would be the SAG 5.45's I used them once when they were added and said "Why use a semi 5.45 and not a full auto" and discounted them. Sounds like I have to go back and use them like a head tapping DMR.
the AUG scope is actually really good for potato computer users cause it dosnt have PiP but has some zoom, and the circle reticle is actually my favorite in the entire game, and the reload animantion of the A1 is super sattifying, i used to run this exclusivly when my pc was a potato and even after i upgraded my pc it still holds a special place in my heart. i just wish it had the NATO mag adaptor similar to the G36. Side note: the G36C has the same benifit/ problem as the MP7, when you take the mag out and fold the stock it only takes up 3 slots, so perfect if you know your a god and will be taking other PMC's guns or perfect for picking up from a body and craming it into a pack.
MP5K is actually somewhat fun! It only takes two slots; so you can fit it into any rig and you can take up four slots (the gun and 2 20 round mags) and have 61 rounds of AP 6.3 that will shred anyone up close or bosses. Plus literally no one takes it, so it always comes back on insurance and it’s not really worth alot so you can insurance fraud it or the mags for something worth more.
New player here, started a week before this wipe, this gun tier listed helped ALOT but i cant find a similar list on ammo that was made within the last year. Here's hoping you make a video on ammo with a similar format to this gun tier list! Thanks so much!
As someone who religiously always takes a sidearm to use in case of running out of ammo or stopages (that I don't have time to clear i. Cover), I can only distinctly remember it saving me twice. Sometimes, I would take a silenced 1911 with spare ammo in to drop scavs quietly, but in reality, I think pistols are something of a novelty. To me a sidearm with a full mag is just filling a empty slot in case of emergency, I very rarely take backups unless I'm trying to use the pistol itself.
No joke the sawed off has become one of my favorite secondaries when running a sniper. The ability to just fold some dude in half when he rushes me or appears out of thin air like Chris angel, will always be hilarious.
Would you be interested in doing an insurance video? I consider myself a midtier player so I insure a lot of my gear. I know a lot of my sweaty friends don't insure anything because they are just good. So I think it would be neat so see what you think gets insured so it comes back and what is always taken. I personally don't run guns like the Mutant, RD, any ASL-Val weapons, or nicer guns because they always get taken. Though I also know my playing methods aren't the smartest. Its the life of a casual.
I’d say most 9mm pistols should go to D tier with tokarevs in F. 9mm with higher cap mags are a life saver. I always carry a p226 since I’m one of the guys that wants to carry their own gun in game and mod it out similarly (even if with just adjustable irons and nice grips without a light or a can) with a 20+1 capacity. AP6.3 has saved me more times than I can count. It does it’s job too even with PST or flesh ammo. Granted, I usually run 30rd mags for my AR so I likely would need to transition sooner than the 60rd guys. I sometimes have 1 60rd with 30s as spare, maybe even another 60 but I will always bring my 226. I can farm scavs with it or finish guys off that push me just by mag dumping. I should’ve pretty much damaged them enough with my first mag and the sidearm would be enough to finish the job if they push without healing, or get a lucky head tap by mag dumping 21 rounds.
hey man, love the videos. try and re-evaluate the vepr hunter, it got a huge recoil buff this wipe, and as a meta andy myself, it feels incredible this wipe.
This is my reason for using pistols in tarkov. It’s incredibly satisfying. Most of my kills are pistol kills this wipe. I have a trophy Glock that got stirrup done in 3 raids; not that great, but good for me. You just have to treat it more like you’re sniping. Line up the sight on their nose before every trigger pull. Spamming doesn’t really work with pistols.
I'm sorry but the TOZ will always be Mythic tier. I did 2, maybe 3 wipes worth of Shooter Borne using a Toz with slugs and a thermal on top. Even did it once on interchange back when that was needed for SB. God tier weapon, incredible sniper rifle.
The RSASS has a special place in my heart after I found one in a box on Woods, smacked the optic from my own rifle onto it and went on a rampage against 10 scavs with the one mag. Limped out of there with a broken leg and no painkillers >_>
The m1014 uses an inertia opperated system that - I am not fully aware of how it works. All I do know is that it is slow and chunky, and uses springs, and is more or less fancy direct blowback. The saiga, and presumably the other semi auto shotguns, use gas blowback, which Is faster to my knowledge.
So with the Aug I like to use a spliced Aug. Using parts of both it feels like a good marksman rifle and you can fit most scopes then. It's cool that most parts are compatible
I have 1 change id make, the m870 can be modded down to the smallest little thing and it makes it perfect for cqb cuz it never gets turned sideways. My personal one is 3 slots long and has 91 ergo, throw some magnum buckshot into it and it becomes the most dangerous secondary lol you can also throw the ring sight on it too so yea theres that. Just that one pump though the rest are not good really
For pistols, I use the shrimp and the usp, but specifically the standard one. I love the irons on the standard usp and hate the irons on the tactical and match ones. Ofc you could always use a rds
related to 33:05 i actually really disliked the ADAR. however, when I discovered that theM856A1 was a PK2 purchase and I still can't get my hands on a usable M4, I decided to give it a shot and honestly? it felt like a single-action M4A1 that you can put any tacti-cool build on and still make it work thanks to how low the recoil is. Solid S tier for early wipe tbh and easily accessible, but you can forget about it when you level up traders enough to use M4s.
I really just want them to make the 9x18mm drum usable for the APB and APS, perhaps only by modding them in the workshop. Would be fun as hell in CQC..
As a person who puts a mark on a stickie note when he lands a toz kill, I currently have 21 kills (PMC specific). I usually get 1 or 2 before being put down by either a grenade or I get railed with a automatic weapon. Eddit: (PMC specific)* If effect with the AK-74U I remember if you nab the break from the 74 (cause its better, just like how the muzzle from the semi-auto AK is better then the base as well last I checked), tossed in the forward grip you can buy from mechanic, slap on the RK grip from skier and that thing early game makes an economical choice to pop skulls or deal with sniper scav in a pinch. I'm still viewed poorly by my peers but I argue people should peek at the stats windows of attachments and read carefully as there are some wild stuff you can do with weapons even teir 1 crap. Butt pad and a good optic with a solid round and the damn thing is stupid well into the mid wipe period
i definitely understand it being in F but I absolutely love using the toz on factory while playing the game like a movement shooter jumping around corners too fast for people to react and going for heads same thing with the double barrel sawed off
not sure if this is a thing but i think when damage is absorbed by armor it should take a chunk of your stamina with it, would make sprinting aross open areas a pain tho so not sure if it would work. Could do a good job at slowing people down tho
I use neither pistol. PB with a drum mag and PstM is where it's at. I don't know why it works, but it just does. You can comfortably take on a small group with it
The sawed off is literally a magic wand, all you have to do is load two magnum or flechette shells into it and shout "HEADICUS EXPLODUS" and watch your enemies disappear.
What will likely happen in the future of tarkov is nikitia will implement a sort of dayz esc system where enough damage quick enough without active painkillers will result in an unconscious state
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mp5k only for 24h, no balls (jokes asside I love your content)
Oh dude
With the armour hitbox update coming in like 5 weeks, even pump action shotguns will be crazy good.
Cause every little bit not protected by a plate can get blasted
The 155 semi auto is a sniper. Build it out and put superperf slugs in it.
4:10 it has lower recoil with pump try it dont be a pussy about using a pump shotty
1:05 surprisingly not
with soft armor you'd be probably dropped like a rock but with hard armor you need to aim up or down
Leviticus: Its great but its hard to feed. It's going into B-Tier!
Vector: No *teleports into A tier*
Yeah, I goofed
Absolutely where it belongs *Teleports again into S tier for DRIP factor*
What is a No Teleport?
@@leviticus1132 goober
@@brandonlee747did you lose your special helmet? Are you mentally equipped to be on this channel?
I think the MP5-K should get the sawed-off treatment and be moved to the secondary slot. Also, the tacticool sprint animation is too sick to not want to use it.
Agreed.
Honestly imo ppl are using it wrong, and so is Tarkov. If just one SMG deserves the ability to slot into the sidearm slot, it's this thing.
It's really only useful as a last resort if someone pushes you, similar to pistols, but it has the ability to hold that glorius 50 round mag, and with a much lower fire rate, not turn into the spray and pray shitshow that firing a Glock 19C becomes...
Underrated as a backup option.
My own take would be to delete it and put the ability to mod your MP5 into a K version
MP-5K is already a unique slot weapon, you can key-bind it through your inventory, ie. in your vest.
@@thesaul9484 I did not know that. Thank you for enlightening me! Hopefully it got the quick swap feature that pistols got. And if not, it should have it!
Also, being able to put it in your rig and hotkey it means that it’s the only firearm you can conceal. All other weapons either are in your pistol holster or on your shoulder.
If nikita wanted to give the pump shotguns at least a niche then he could add more specialized shells which normally wouldn't cycle in semi autos this also includes flechette so thatll help bridge the gap a little
Low pressure shells, or tighter grouping would do it.
That would solve two problems in one change (since semi auto flechette is a bit overpowered..), I support this.
Then again, I also want them to add the AA12 or another similar automatic shotgun, or at least the Judge revolver shotgun so we can have a more useful sidearm shotgun option.
We'll never have Dragon's Breath tho 😢
@@pimpmywikiwe need have dragons breath i don’t care if it is near useless
If nikita cared about shotguns he'd give us a full auto version for the saiga 12 already, instead of a wonky gimmick benelli M3. And he wouldn't have made the cheap sight attachment so floaty with the update. And he wouldn't have made AP-20 craft only. And something can be said about the limb damage nerf as well.
Doesn't matter I still only use shotguns (because I love em and also because I can't be arsed to learn to use other guns). And with the armor area update, the AP-20 will shine for sure, we will be so back baby.
@@hardlogic3046 me as shotgun player seeing another shotgun player callking benelli m3 wonky breaks my heart
I used pistols last wipe for one reason only. Ammo consumption. When you use ammo that is craft-only or mags that take a long time to reload(im looking at you p90)-you don't want to spend it on scavs. I would carry any 9mm pistol and two spare mags and if i had the possibility - i would transition, drop the scav, have fun and just move on. Also - the pistols are both quieter, so as to limit the PMCs ability to hear you from a mile away, and deceiving. They make the enemy think that you are a pistoling, a meal, a kill for a quest. They don't expect to get ripped to shreds with m855a1 or flechette.
Also-drip factor.
Also-the rare occasion when you get to accidentally drop a pmc with a onetap)
completely agree with you, i always do the same thing
Precisely the reason I use the m45a1. Craft some acp AP ammo. 11 round mags is plenty because your ammo does 66 damage and 38 pen. 10k roubles to buy and it has those nice green dot irons like the 5-7. One batch of acp craft will last you several raids
MP-18 is Eminem among shotguns - you got one shot, one opportunity.
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Would you capture it, or just let it slip?
B Rabbit, more like B Rattit amiright 🥴
And I know I’m gonna let my chance to bow
MP-18 users are LITERAL Mr Worldwide because once they missed you
expect them running like they missed their flight 😂
The key to slow-firing meme weapons is bringing friends so you can up the meme factor and volley-fire. If only there was a tricorn hat as a joke item...
I also love how accurate the P90 mags are when it comes to loading them, lol. I have dealt with a semi-auto version once before and they really are that bad.
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I actually prefer the APB over the G18 for Stirrup. It's cheaper, comes suppressed, and at least for me, the way it bounced lends to much easier headshots. 20 round mags are small for sure but let's be real I'm not surviving the gunfight long enough to go through 50 rounds if I didnt kill them in the first 5 anyways haha.
Using the Toz is not about the kills, its about the style
Brave of you to release this practicaly days before the recoil changes
That’s what I was expecting a literally infalible,perfectly objetcive, non biased at all tier list man, you got my like this time
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Pistol Stereotypes part 3?
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Yes , when armor part 3 ???
The reason to use the m700 is for people who don’t wanna use a mosin (or just wanna use a .308 sniper) but wanna level their sniper skill more efficiently since you have the ability to top-load it, which helps a lot when you have a 10 round mag, and especially the 20 rounder
Aug A1 absolutely slaps at really close range. The high fire rate just shreds and the recoil is actually good because if you are just point firing at the chest area it will swipe back and forth arount the head
The A3 is obviously better but I agree that the Aug(either) should have been ranked higher as if you just add the 20in barrel proprietary suppressor on the a3 I think you get like 40 recoil and 48 ergo with 42rd mags equipped aswell and that total cost is like 120,000ish rubles
why would you do that when you could just shoot BP out an AK
@@j0hnicide low fire rate and bad damage
Yeah and the default scope isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. You don't even need to mod it at all to be effective
13:33 45 vector has a shorter TTK with Hydra-Shok to legs than Match FMJ does to a level 4 armor thorax. It's still a great kneecapper.
The horizontal recoil is so bad that it makes shooting legs really hard. Nobody uses that gun and it's still over rated.
@MashPotatoJohns sure, but you only need 5 hits. I generally aim for mid thighs and get solid hits, dropping someone in half a mag. 30 rounds dispensed in 1.5 seconds. By the time they register they are getting shot at, it's too late.
Another video woohoo. Also surprised you didn’t wait till early next year to do this, with the big armor and recoil changes coming at the end of this year. Still thanks for the video. It’s a nice watch right for when I wake up
I hit level 15 recently and the AK74 was really carrying me at first. I built a build with 48 recoil using only parts I found in raid and I also had a laser and an eotech on it. I used it sparingly out of gear fear but it was pretty good and I had enough parts to make a second one as well with maybe a worse sight. I was also able to load its first mag (on a good day) with BS while having BT and BP backup ammo. I’d definitely recommend crafting it early game and just collecting parts for it. Some good stuff to look out for is the Zhukov stock and the VS Combo
Getting BS ammo for it makes 5.45 guns pretty good. I find decent amount of em in ammo spawns, at least in specific spawns like Woods attachment shack (they can be in the grass by the corner of the shack and the green pile of boxes, some might be inside the open crate)
@@micholous definitely. I’ve found 120 rounds of BT and 120 rounds of BP on woods, and I don’t even play the map that much, along with more super expensive ammo.
@@micholous you should sheck out as a pmc or scav on reserve. There is a lot of ammo spawns that regulary spawns bs and bt ammo. I can get around 300 bullets per scav raid of bs and bt, highly consider it!
The MP5K needs to be given the sawed off treatment and be a gun for the pistol slot
Facts.
Which would be funny given that the MP5K is indeed kind of a sawed off MP5 in the first place (not just the barrel but also the receiver is shortened).
One thing to note about the scar h is it can be moded to have better recoil then the 7.62 mdr, however it comes at a slight ergo loss but not much tbh(I think my build is like 58r and 40ish ergo)
I personally used the G36 exclusively this wipe before having reached high enough trader levels to switch to the M4. The 6 vent variant is cheap to mod with lvl 2 traders and gives you a lower recoil than MDR and Aug in my experience this wipe.
2:35 It also speaks to your opponents lack of skills.
no joke i was scaving one day on reserve, spawned with a 74u w/ 45 rnder. unloaded so i could check ammo and kit wasnt big enough to hold so i couldnt pick it back up. ran to big heli so i could loot and found 1911. duo came to f with me like playing with food, taunting an all that thought it was just one so i ran out and hid behind front wheel, he ran through and came out side door where i shot one bullet and head eyes him and he didnt even get to shoot that pretty sig spear one time. his partner then killed me but was still a personal w for me.
You are sort of right about the Benelli M1014/ M4. Benelli uses inertia driven systems is nearly all of their shotguns. While gas systems recirculate the gas to push the bolt back, inertia driven uses the guns natural recoil and a big chonky bolt. You shoot and the gun naturally moves backwards, and while it’s moving the bolt doesn’t open, the bolt opens when the gun frame itself slows and stops moving. I like to say “the bolt is its own thing” because it moves with the gun back into shoulder but when the gun stops moving when your shoulder prevents it the bolt continues moving back because it’s mass and little resistance until it hits the “action spring” sending it back forward, cycling the gun. A very very reliable and clean system, but slower shooting and more felt recoil compared to gas
Ash-12 was nerfed because I killed a streamer wearing T6 armour through the chest. They cried. BSG listened.
You should be ashamed
In the next update I'm sure buckshot is gonna be really strong with its ability to slip between gaps in armor
Good video, these annual tier lists are great!
are you secretly JREG behind that mask?
MCX definitely needs more attachments it only has the 2 shortest barrel options for the rifle.
To be fair the MCX is for CQC anyway, a 16 inch barrel is unnecessary. A bad idea with how you use it I’d say
300 blackout also irl does not need long barrels to be effective. Too much barrel and you lose velocity
If anything it needs better muzzle devices and it needs better hidden stats, if the 74ub is going to be god tier the MCX should be comparable but it just feels like a bouncy pile of shit the moment you get anything better. This is coming from someone who mained the MCX for most of this wipe, its ammo is super good and its TTK is retardedly low but it feels terrible because of how bad its camera recoil is and how terrible its recoil pattern is to control
@@theturtlerguy1236most .300 blk rounds in tarkov aren't subsonic. So there wouldn't really be a loss and barrels are just too short and you know bsg added another set of m4 barrels for no reason so they could add 2 barrel options for mcx
@@jadonlimoges1830that's why I'm talking about barrel lenghts recoil fucks it up
Its surreal to see how much i've learned through my 3 wipes.
Back then i'd use these videos as a guide, but now I know that this guy isn't really the best source of info for the game but hey thats fine. Man's gotta make content, do what u gotta do.
Yeah, also he’s clearly not very familiar with PvP and PvP metas.
@@band0leronot everyone who wants to play wants to slave to a meta. His title is also... very sarcastic
The whole point of this video is that it’s *his* tier list. This is how he thinks of all the weapons and some people agree, some won’t. He’s not a slave to metas, he’s a slave to what he enjoys.
@@kerrrobertson3699 sure, to each their own, not a diss on him or anyone really. Just complementing what blenky said, I've took these kind of videos from Leviticus as kind of a guide as well. Some of it is sarcasm or his opinion ofc, but some of it seems to be kind of objective and sometimes is just... wrong information.
Not a big deal really, just my 2 cents.
Yeah, I especially love the advice on ammo avail making the diff in tier choices. Agreed. Great guide!
But for more a) data-based or 2) god-of-pvp cred go to a) Gigabeef then 2) Pestily.
Moral of the story: Ammo is a bigger factor for using a particular weapon than the weapon itself. The best weapon in the world is the one you have ammo for.
Surprisingly, this lesson also works in real life.
I don't even play this game and yet I've seen like every video you've made on it. You could probably review shredded cheese from the bag at 3am and I would find it entertaining
Gg bro. I was looking for a fresh weap tier list. Good one. Thanks.
Nice video bro. One suggestion: add the gun names to each gun image so it's easy to read at a glance
40:20 Gotta disagree on the FN40GL being eclipsed by UGBGLs. The underbarrels are nearly impossible to aim, the FN40GL (and the M32) have optics that actually work. Also they enable the ultimate meme build, running T7 thermal goggles with iron sights on the FN40GL (which is pinpoint accurate at 100m).
That still leaves the question of "why would you ever need single shot GLs in a weapon slot", because the short distance 40mm grenades are extremely rare now. But I bet there are more end-of-wipe GLs being run for fun, especially once the wipe events start, than there are serious UBGL usage during normal everyday Tarkov play.
You're having trouble aiming UBGLs?
@brigadgeneralvoid2508 if you're moving they're near impossible to aim, the irons don't work at all on the AK GL and the M4 GL just doesn't have irons and lasers are super inaccurate
take away the fact hes talking about tarkov and this sounds like a guy from fallout reviewing the best guns to raid a settlement with
Lol, bold to assume the guns still work after getting nuked
had a weekly to kill 75 scavs with a makarov, so i queued factory with just that, no armor or headset. it was somewhat fun to onetap pmcs with sp7.
edit: STM-9 is my baby
edit 2: i prefer the RSASS cuz it sounds so goooood
13:50 Even the Vector 45 didn't think it deserved B Tier, it went for A.
On paper RSASS and SR-25 seem the same with different prices, but the RSASS has some of the best hidden stats in game. Also, if you run marked rooms often youre gonna have a lot of them which are definitly not worth selling to traders. Its insane
I have a 3 page essay to write, 1 finals requirement and 1 video lecture to record and submit. Thanks for dropping this, masked lanky balaclava man.
Honestly the toz still has that mythical status imo, since you don't really SEE it as often on scavs anymore I swear... like I haven't even *seen* one of them in forever myself, and of the scavs that have it only a select few are the true toz snipers we all fear.
28:00 “I don’t know what they where doing” the funny part ab the AK 12 is that u exactly described its problems in real life - so I think it is perfectly balanced in the game
1. Since Devs nerfed ammo for 5-7 there is no actual reason to run 5-7 since best ammo L191 penetrates 3 class at max. But! 9x21 BT and .45 AP with cheap craft are best ammo for pistols and can penetrate 4 class with high damage like 9x39. So USP and SR-1MP are best pistols that can counter budget main guns. Not played RSH-12 but have a lot of PS-12B ammo. Interesting pistol actually because ASH-12 is trash gun for CQC only. C tier.
2. Same to P90 because you can't get SS109 ammo (craft is quite expensive). SB193 nerfed to shit and L191 is useless ammo in mid-late wipe. Gun itself quite good. C tier.
3. Vector 45 has cheap RIP ammo like good old times - beast gun. And .45 AP is cheapest craft in Workbench.
Vepr Hunter got a 75% recoil reduction this wipe. It would be a pretty good rat blaster if m80 was easier to get.
I use the Aug because it's a tier 1 peacekeeper M4 with built in 2.5x and irons. no modification needed, slap a suppressor right on
The one surprise for me would be the SAG 5.45's I used them once when they were added and said "Why use a semi 5.45 and not a full auto" and discounted them. Sounds like I have to go back and use them like a head tapping DMR.
sawed-off in the S tier - gigabased, I've seen enought, liked then closed the video, I am satisfied
man, i got to your channel recently and god i love the way you're doing things.
stay true!
We're gonna need another infallible gun tier list since the recoil rework!!
the AUG scope is actually really good for potato computer users cause it dosnt have PiP but has some zoom, and the circle reticle is actually my favorite in the entire game, and the reload animantion of the A1 is super sattifying, i used to run this exclusivly when my pc was a potato and even after i upgraded my pc it still holds a special place in my heart. i just wish it had the NATO mag adaptor similar to the G36.
Side note: the G36C has the same benifit/ problem as the MP7, when you take the mag out and fold the stock it only takes up 3 slots, so perfect if you know your a god and will be taking other PMC's guns or perfect for picking up from a body and craming it into a pack.
I click on heads like crazy with the Aug sight. Some of the shots I've landed were disgusting and surprised myself.
MP5K is actually somewhat fun! It only takes two slots; so you can fit it into any rig and you can take up four slots (the gun and 2 20 round mags) and have 61 rounds of AP 6.3 that will shred anyone up close or bosses.
Plus literally no one takes it, so it always comes back on insurance and it’s not really worth alot so you can insurance fraud it or the mags for something worth more.
I got head eyesed today by a scav that was 100meters away that was using pso 9x19. I couldnt even see him through the trees and bushes. I logged ofd.
Could we have Food and Drinks Tier List of Tarkov? Or even meds surgery and painkillers tier list 😂?
Don’t even play tarkov but you bet your ass I’m gonna watch a Leviticus video
Ok yeah cool video, but how about OPTICS tier list?
New player here, started a week before this wipe, this gun tier listed helped ALOT but i cant find a similar list on ammo that was made within the last year. Here's hoping you make a video on ammo with a similar format to this gun tier list! Thanks so much!
tarkov ammo chart should be updated
My dude, Leviticus, voice guy, you're never boring. Talk at length.
As someone who religiously always takes a sidearm to use in case of running out of ammo or stopages (that I don't have time to clear i. Cover), I can only distinctly remember it saving me twice. Sometimes, I would take a silenced 1911 with spare ammo in to drop scavs quietly, but in reality, I think pistols are something of a novelty. To me a sidearm with a full mag is just filling a empty slot in case of emergency, I very rarely take backups unless I'm trying to use the pistol itself.
No joke the sawed off has become one of my favorite secondaries when running a sniper. The ability to just fold some dude in half when he rushes me or appears out of thin air like Chris angel, will always be hilarious.
I like bringing in the Mp5k as my rat weapon, the folding stock would be sooo amazing! Maybe some suppressor options too
Would you be interested in doing an insurance video? I consider myself a midtier player so I insure a lot of my gear. I know a lot of my sweaty friends don't insure anything because they are just good. So I think it would be neat so see what you think gets insured so it comes back and what is always taken. I personally don't run guns like the Mutant, RD, any ASL-Val weapons, or nicer guns because they always get taken. Though I also know my playing methods aren't the smartest. Its the life of a casual.
I’d say most 9mm pistols should go to D tier with tokarevs in F. 9mm with higher cap mags are a life saver.
I always carry a p226 since I’m one of the guys that wants to carry their own gun in game and mod it out similarly (even if with just adjustable irons and nice grips without a light or a can) with a 20+1 capacity. AP6.3 has saved me more times than I can count. It does it’s job too even with PST or flesh ammo. Granted, I usually run 30rd mags for my AR so I likely would need to transition sooner than the 60rd guys. I sometimes have 1 60rd with 30s as spare, maybe even another 60 but I will always bring my 226. I can farm scavs with it or finish guys off that push me just by mag dumping. I should’ve pretty much damaged them enough with my first mag and the sidearm would be enough to finish the job if they push without healing, or get a lucky head tap by mag dumping 21 rounds.
hey man, love the videos. try and re-evaluate the vepr hunter, it got a huge recoil buff this wipe, and as a meta andy myself, it feels incredible this wipe.
still svt is better
i took out rashla and his guards along with a pmc with the mp-18 and that was one of the most fun raids ive had
Another tierlist for the collection.
This is my reason for using pistols in tarkov. It’s incredibly satisfying. Most of my kills are pistol kills this wipe. I have a trophy Glock that got stirrup done in 3 raids; not that great, but good for me. You just have to treat it more like you’re sniping. Line up the sight on their nose before every trigger pull. Spamming doesn’t really work with pistols.
I'm sorry but the TOZ will always be Mythic tier. I did 2, maybe 3 wipes worth of Shooter Borne using a Toz with slugs and a thermal on top. Even did it once on interchange back when that was needed for SB. God tier weapon, incredible sniper rifle.
The RSASS has a special place in my heart after I found one in a box on Woods, smacked the optic from my own rifle onto it and went on a rampage against 10 scavs with the one mag.
Limped out of there with a broken leg and no painkillers >_>
The lee Harvey Oswald part got me 😂
Damn, pistol stereotypes list part 4 be hitting hard
The m1014 uses an inertia opperated system that - I am not fully aware of how it works. All I do know is that it is slow and chunky, and uses springs, and is more or less fancy direct blowback. The saiga, and presumably the other semi auto shotguns, use gas blowback, which Is faster to my knowledge.
So with the Aug I like to use a spliced Aug. Using parts of both it feels like a good marksman rifle and you can fit most scopes then. It's cool that most parts are compatible
You should hive vepr a try, they gave it a buff for recoil idk when I saw the gigabeef video about it. The recoil seemed nice
the augs are super underrated their amazing muzzle velocity is so nice :D
They should make the MP5-K a pistol slot weapon,
I have 1 change id make, the m870 can be modded down to the smallest little thing and it makes it perfect for cqb cuz it never gets turned sideways. My personal one is 3 slots long and has 91 ergo, throw some magnum buckshot into it and it becomes the most dangerous secondary lol you can also throw the ring sight on it too so yea theres that. Just that one pump though the rest are not good really
Yep, it's cute and fun, too bad it can't go in sidearm slot.
yeee sawn off is actually an amazing secondary and great variation on a pistol
For pistols, I use the shrimp and the usp, but specifically the standard one. I love the irons on the standard usp and hate the irons on the tactical and match ones. Ofc you could always use a rds
You should make a video specifically about revisions and additions to the evolution videos.
The 1911 goes into S tier but not the M45A1 😢
1 Month and already we are going to have to get a whole new list. Looking forward to it!
been waiting for this all year what a great video
12:48 your supposed to take in a backpack with 5 extea mags, no joke works like a charm
Ik I can't be the only one thinking it but I'd love to see some more odd/civilian tier guns like a 10/22 or a 45/70
I would love a lever gun in .357 magnum for scav plinking.
about the mp5k the first thing i did when started playing spt tarkov is adding the mp5 buttstock id to the mp5k
another banger sir, also for those doubting, i just merced a PMC as a scav with the STM-9 flawlessly so its an S rank in my book
the prewipe event a year ago with grenade launcher scavs was amazing
related to 33:05
i actually really disliked the ADAR. however, when I discovered that theM856A1 was a PK2 purchase and I still can't get my hands on a usable M4, I decided to give it a shot and honestly? it felt like a single-action M4A1 that you can put any tacti-cool build on and still make it work thanks to how low the recoil is. Solid S tier for early wipe tbh and easily accessible, but you can forget about it when you level up traders enough to use M4s.
Silenced makarov with a crafted drum mag usually lets you run a suppressed gun that youll never reload for about 25k after ammo
I really just want them to make the 9x18mm drum usable for the APB and APS, perhaps only by modding them in the workshop.
Would be fun as hell in CQC..
As a person who puts a mark on a stickie note when he lands a toz kill, I currently have 21 kills (PMC specific). I usually get 1 or 2 before being put down by either a grenade or I get railed with a automatic weapon.
Eddit: (PMC specific)*
If effect with the AK-74U I remember if you nab the break from the 74 (cause its better, just like how the muzzle from the semi-auto AK is better then the base as well last I checked), tossed in the forward grip you can buy from mechanic, slap on the RK grip from skier and that thing early game makes an economical choice to pop skulls or deal with sniper scav in a pinch. I'm still viewed poorly by my peers but I argue people should peek at the stats windows of attachments and read carefully as there are some wild stuff you can do with weapons even teir 1 crap. Butt pad and a good optic with a solid round and the damn thing is stupid well into the mid wipe period
13:45 the .45 RIP ammo is imo one of the most OP rounds in the game, 4 hits in a leg to kill any PMC, S-tier
I love running unmeta builds. So satisfying when you get kills
i definitely understand it being in F but I absolutely love using the toz on factory while playing the game like a movement shooter jumping around corners too fast for people to react and going for heads same thing with the double barrel sawed off
not sure if this is a thing but i think when damage is absorbed by armor it should take a chunk of your stamina with it, would make sprinting aross open areas a pain tho so not sure if it would work. Could do a good job at slowing people down tho
I use neither pistol. PB with a drum mag and PstM is where it's at. I don't know why it works, but it just does. You can comfortably take on a small group with it
You earned my sub when you of the Ak in the middle of a & b cus that’s exactly what I was thinking 😂 good shit man
10:51 After hearing about how all of the pistols were bad I was ready to hear you destroy my baby
The Lee Harvey Oswald reference ☠️
The sawed off is literally a magic wand, all you have to do is load two magnum or flechette shells into it and shout "HEADICUS EXPLODUS" and watch your enemies disappear.
They need to give the SCAR-17 the 5.56 conversion kit option that are available irl.
What will likely happen in the future of tarkov is nikitia will implement a sort of dayz esc system where enough damage quick enough without active painkillers will result in an unconscious state