Just like how you taunted me... Always thought you're better than me. How does it feel... to know there's someone greater than you now? This scene was amazing
@@ismaelgingles9409 agreed, shows that Barry is sharper than we sometimes give him credit for, he knew what he was doing and he knew it would rile Eobard up into spilling what he knew
He is embarrassing, Flash is my favorite Superhero and the whole production + the ENTIRE CAST makes me cringe so hard I can’t bare to watch it. When he start saying “HATE! HATE! HATE!” It felt like i was watching the chappelle show
This was heartfelt, came across like tom really was Eobard, angry, jealous, hate filled, even the slight smile at the end. I loved every minute of it, not a better man to play this character
@@JACQUEZ23 ...he always needs the help of his team to beat villa8ns when he should be able ro do it himself. And people end up getting hurt because he didn't stop the villain in a more efficient way (for example in season 1 barry kept running people out of the cold gun's way instead of just grabbing the gun and running snart to prison. Another example being when a nonspeedster disappears when barry isn't paying attention, he doesn't run around the area to find them even though he could and it's not like a nonspeedster can get that far in a short amount of time)
@@JACQUEZ23 What kind of dumbass argument is that? The Avengers only need each other when it's a very big threat. Flash ALWAYS needs some cheesy and over-used motivational speech from Iris or the team. Or the power of love or whatever the hell. When realistically he should be able to handle every situation that doesn't involve another speedster on his own.
This show is corny about 95% of the time, but man, the quality of interactions between these two is always top notch. If only the rest of the show was written this way
@@bublertus906 that's definitely part of it, but I think the core cast of The Flash are decent to good actors, with the exception of the kid who played Wally. He was awful. But Joe, Caitlyn, Cisco, and Iris are all pretty good. The writing is just god awful, especially for Iris
I feel like they’re gonna adapt the comic point where Barry was corrupted by the negative speed force and attacked Thawne asking him why he keeps messing with his life and Thawne testily answers that it’s because it’s the only way Barry will be around him
Thawn is such a clever but vain villain. He has a breakdown at the thought of someone replacing him as the evil in Barry's life, and as soon as barry figures out a clue on how to stop the new speedster, Thawn smiles while tearing up, almost as if he's thinking to himself that while he is the only one for Barry, he is almost proud in a twisted sort of way that Barry is the only one for him too.
No matter what thawne did to Barry or his friends Barry always goes back to him. That scene was amazing and after seeing the teaser for next weeks I’m definitely excited for it
@@christopherli3736 imagine both of them in the same scene. That would be awesome. I don’t give a shot about explaining how it could be possible, it just would be great itself.
Barry was honestly brutal here. Not even the manipulating and taunting, but how he left without a word once he got his answer. After Thawne's speech about how much he cares about Barry, Barry shows that he doesn't care about Thawne at all.
Thawne didn’t say he cares about Barry he clearly hates Barry he said it more than twice in less than 30 secs I means his whole existence is to cease Barry from existing
@@Trammykaylavish welloriginal thawne story is kinda all over the place since he has a few backstory but one of them is that his obsession with the flash wasn’t what made him evil him visiting the flash museum then seeing who the reverse flash identity was the trigger and the start and birth of the RF because thawne assumed that’s his destiny once saw who the RF was
@@clark987878 Actually that would be in the middle of love and hate. Love and Hate are opposite strong emotions, indifference is lack of emotion. Yes, I am fun at parties
"No speedster is ever going to feel what I do for you!" If shipping is for romantic love, what's the term for romantic hate? Because I'm pretty sure that's what Barry & Thawne have going right now.
The fact that thawne said “no one can replace me as the speedster” is actually right cuz no one will replace him except himself from the past future when he was younger before he became the reverse flash when he is perfecting the negative speedforce that why meena was able to do the Lightning bolt move like the flash that who meena said was when she told Barry that she and her co worker been working out her co worker is young thawne 💀
Just like how you taunted me... always thought you’re better than me. how does it feel to know there’s something greater than you now? This scene was great
This scene was amazing and so great to see thawne being taunted by Barry. But his smile at the end of their encounter shows he knows exactly what's going on
Thawne is showing the perfect mixture of sarrow, desperation, insanity and rage all in one performance. And you can tell he is scheming even now. Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash is one of the best Arrowverse villains.
He always has a plan, it is sure to happen and his hate for him will grow even stronger and push him to go further. I can't wait for him to return once again with the negative speed
@@l0sts0ul89 dont think he get struck by negative speed force lightning pretty sure it’s a source of energetic containing in the speed force you need to access
Maybe it'll have something to do with Meena (the new speedster). Perhaps the Thawne we saw in the preview is going to perfect her formula and then turn it negative.
Considering how long he’s been doing this back and forth with him and how well he knows him at this point it’s not a far stretch to say Barry knows how to get under Thawne’s skin just as well as Thawne gets under Barry’s. The one thing that has always allowed Barry to beat him was Thawne’s ego. His obsession with being better than him has gotten so bad it’s started to make him sloppy
He's been fighting thawne for years if barry knows anything about him it's that he's ego is he loves hate barry he wants to be the main rival in his life basically saying the new speedster may be a new better rival than him is one way to get him.
Thawne really hates Barry. If you focus on this throughout the series, you might notice that Thawne may be smarter than being a sociopath. I think his hatred for Barry is about something different.
Thawne: No speedster will ever replace me! Flash: Oh, I don't know. Zoom died, sure. Savy Boy is dead too, but there's still Godspeed and that Rival guy. I wonder how he is...
Thawne's character would be better if his backstory is just wanting to feel special and important. It's very clear he just wants to be remembered. But no, instead it's "You stole my thunder! So I'll destroy your life, because I can't be like you!" Good grief.
That's literally the same thing. And with the story their adapting thawne might end up revealing that the reason he messes with barry is because its the only time he'll be around him
@@sonamtashi7706 Exactly, Thawne said as much when he talked about the reason he tried to gain speed was because he wanted to be just like his hero The Flash in the beginning. In most of these super villain cases its those capable of the most intense love that tend to succumb to the most intense levels of hatred from their hurt.
He arose to glory through horrendous acts. He killed his brother (later prevented his brother from being born) so he wouldn't be worried about law enforcement from family stopping him from researching the speed force, he was rejected by his crush so he killed her boyfriend and made her mute, he killed his parents when they learned about his Flash obsession, killed his professor when he tried to stop Thawne from attaining the speed force, and so much more. Once he became the 25th century "heroic" scarlet speedster, Barry put him in his place after meeting him (at first they were friends but you know the rest).
I thought season 5x08 and 5x22 really would have taught Barry to not give Thawne even a snippet of what’s going on outside of his cell because he will use it to his advantages as I’m sure he will do again in the finale
Well he knows who the speedster is, an important point is thwane probably helped her in the past with the formula before Barry took his Powers away, and I bet thwane was even playing Barry after he took his powers and knew he will get his Powers back because the future him told it to him.
I knida now feel bad for thawne , the part where he cries no speedster will ever feel what i fell for you. The look in his face with tears almost made me cry, It also made me feel barry was a bit too cruel to thawne. Even after knowing he is a villian
Ooh, I bet it hurts Thawne. Knowing your pathetic purpose to kill Barry out of jealousy has led you this and now, there’s a new speedster out there, running free… and that kills you. Nicely done mocking Thawne, Barry 👍
@@fasterbaiter Really? I heard Comicstorian pronounce it "Dawn" so I thought that's how it was supposed to be pronounced. Man, I've been lying to myself a while.
Brings back memories of the arrow tv show. Plus thawne is the third inmate to be stuck in lian yu. First deathstroke then captain cold(if i am correct.)
this make me feel so bad about him.. imagine wasting 30 years of your life just because you were destined to. you can see his pain. he was just the biggest fans of flash then destiny hits him
I love Tom so much. I hope to see him in other movies and other series because hes SUCH a talented actor!! Please get him in stuff other than the Flash
Dude this is sad as fuck like I realize Thawne is a truly evil individual especially in the comics but when I watch this I just can't help but feel so bad for him.
Alright they have really ruined Thawne. In the season before this he was menacing and scary and gave me goosebumps every time I saw him. Now he looks like he’s about to cry because Barry is out of the cell and not him
Lmao I hate when people call character development ruining a character. It’s like the people who complain when Kratos doesn’t go beserk and kill every god he sees. People change.
"OH please. You got replaced three times; Zoom, Savitar, Godspeed. Only difference is defeating you is like playing whackamole. At least THEY stay down for the count. You? Well you seem to enjoy the humiliation conga you've been dancing to for nearly 30 years."
@鄧焯文 honestly I don't know. If Mortal Kombat 1 is any indication, even with the best intentions tragic stuff still happens (restarting the universe is a complicated thing).
@@przemor1150 because Eric Wallace likes Tom Cavanaugh WAY too much and won't just get Matt 🤷🏿♂️ Matt's been wanting to come back since Season 3, but they won't bring him back Edit: Yes I know, I saw the trailer for episode 18. My statement still holds weight because the showrunners could've brought this man back anytime RF showed up on The Flash, yet they chose to keep using Tom even though Matt wanted to come back. We know it's not going to stick because of the finale photo leaks of Tom STILL as Reverse Flash, just in a weirder suit
@@przemor1150 apparently the show hasn't called Matt back since The Flash S3. Ironically enough, he recently came back on Legends S7 where they did him dirty
Nadie notó que da un poco de miedo la escena de Thawne cuando dicd no seré remplazado No one noticed that Thawne's scene when he says i won't be replaced is a little scary
I absolutely love the Reverse Flash, but this is never how he’d act. I can’t tell you how much it annoys me that the new writers have ruined so many characters.
? Where'd you get this idea from? The established Reverse Flash from the show? The DC Animated Cartoons? The comics? *In the CW show,* he's ALWAYS been one to emphasize control. . . the puppet master, the one with the future insight and vast knowledge above all other speedsters. In the rare few instances where we've seen RF without control, he's behaved quite precisely like THIS (ex: Black Flash chasing him; being erased from the timeline in season 1; being erased from the timeline in DC's Legends of Tomorrow; etc). He panics. He becomes emotionally unhinged. He feels FEAR: something he's used to CAUSING, not receiving. Tom isn't the only one emphasizing these traits in RF's psychotic mentality. . . Matt Letscher also hits this right on the nail in DC'd Legends. Hell, even in S1 of the Flash when he first "loses" his speed. *In the animated series,* we've seen Reverse Flash be egotistical and one step ahead of Barry throughout numerous points. He truly is a sadistic, twisted, egotistical psychopath that only wants to cause Barry pain. Yet, in the instance where Barry reset the timeline from Flashpoint, he became even more unhinged trying to stop him. . . until he caught a bullet with his face. Afterwards, where he survived his headshot, he descended even more into madness and *still* he could not bear the thought of losing to the Flash, ever. *In the comics,* RF (Prof. Zoom) was consumed with not just the thought of destroying Barry, but REPLACING him. He wanted to BE Barry. He wanted Iris, and killed her when he couldn't have her. After his death and resurrection, he STILL could not bear the thought of Barry NOT being destroyed by Zoom's own hands, so he went through SO many lengths to f*ck with Barry's life. --------- From everything we know of the character, he is CONSUMED by thoughts of Barry. So, imagine if he had to live knowing he'd lost his speed, lost his ability to destroy or replace barry, lost his life, AND that he'd lost to BARRY ALLEN, the man he swore to kill and replace? Don't you think he'd be pretty emotional and unhinged too? Because Tom hits this right on the nail. The Reverse-Flash we're USED to seeing -the puppet master; the one with control- is gone. What we're left with is a shell of his former glory. He should NOT continue to appear calm and collected; he should appear unhinged and mental, as he does. But of course, there's always the possibility he's faking and playing/buttering barry up. And like someone else said. . .you can't predict sociopaths/psychopaths and how they might react [you can to some degree if you perform an extensive case study, but that's getting into psychology and science, not fictitious comic book characters].
You know what's coming in the finale? That face swap of Matt and Tom's from season 1 Tom will somehow end up meeting Matt's reverse flash and he will face swap with Tom. Gonna be amazing
I love Tom, at it's worst he still makes the show better but he not only was given terrible material, that delivery when he's screaming felt like a rehearsal take that was used.
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''The circle is now complete, when i left you i was but the learner, now i am the master.''
GOD DAMN!! with a side of salt
Lord Vader
Facts
@Pooncy hv fck godspeed😂😂😂
“only the master of evil darth”
Just like how you taunted me... Always thought you're better than me. How does it feel... to know there's someone greater than you now? This scene was amazing
That was a pretty cool line 😎
@@ismaelgingles9409 agreed, shows that Barry is sharper than we sometimes give him credit for, he knew what he was doing and he knew it would rile Eobard up into spilling what he knew
Clever move from Barry. Taking advantage of Thawne's hatred towards him to get him to talk about the new speedster.
Just like how Thawne did in the early seasons.
Goood....
Use his anger
@@cunningsmile4166 more like his fear of someone replacing him as Barry's greatest nemesis.
The difference Barry is in dominating position here. Thawne has no speed and in behind literal bars, not even in a cell.
@@wc4606 nobody can have the same type of effect on his life. Thawne killed his mother and erased his daughter from existence.
That
"Can you really not see how obvious this answer is"
"Are you stupid?"
this got me laughing😂
Literally me too😂😂😂😂😂
Well Barry was obviously playing dumb there and Thawne knew it, so that's why he didn't want to answer Flash's question. 😅
Tom is just too good at playing Thawne
he is thawne lol hes played majority of the reverse flash
@@33yogi13 yeah he didnt imply otherwise…
Nah reverse flash plays tom cavanagh
Facts !!!!! I can’t see future seasons without Tom !!!
@@saeedhunter398 too bad
So sad
Tom is a so freaking good actor, hope we see him in more movies/series soon
He is embarrassing, Flash is my favorite Superhero and the whole production + the ENTIRE CAST makes me cringe so hard I can’t bare to watch it.
When he start saying
“HATE! HATE! HATE!” It felt like i was watching the chappelle show
@@iusen64pad He is broken plus still a good acrot
@@iusen64pad also entire cast??
@@iusen64pad if you can't bare to watch it then why are you watching it
@@iusen64pad Then stop watching it, it's so simple yet you just complain like a baby
Tom is just wow. He really brings reverse flash to life even without his speed.
This was heartfelt, came across like tom really was Eobard, angry, jealous, hate filled, even the slight smile at the end. I loved every minute of it, not a better man to play this character
0:21 Having watched this show for 8 years. Yes, yes he is.
😂😂
Nah
@@JACQUEZ23 ...he always needs the help of his team to beat villa8ns when he should be able ro do it himself. And people end up getting hurt because he didn't stop the villain in a more efficient way (for example in season 1 barry kept running people out of the cold gun's way instead of just grabbing the gun and running snart to prison. Another example being when a nonspeedster disappears when barry isn't paying attention, he doesn't run around the area to find them even though he could and it's not like a nonspeedster can get that far in a short amount of time)
@@BattleBondGamer he always need help with his team sound like the anvngers to me
@@JACQUEZ23 What kind of dumbass argument is that? The Avengers only need each other when it's a very big threat. Flash ALWAYS needs some cheesy and over-used motivational speech from Iris or the team. Or the power of love or whatever the hell.
When realistically he should be able to handle every situation that doesn't involve another speedster on his own.
This show is corny about 95% of the time, but man, the quality of interactions between these two is always top notch. If only the rest of the show was written this way
True that
Damn Right!!
Seriously!!! These Teo broke their backs carrying this dhow
A lot of it is just Tom Cavanaugh and Grant Gustin being the best actors on the show
@@bublertus906 that's definitely part of it, but I think the core cast of The Flash are decent to good actors, with the exception of the kid who played Wally. He was awful. But Joe, Caitlyn, Cisco, and Iris are all pretty good. The writing is just god awful, especially for Iris
Barry's becoming good at the art of manipulation! He is pushing ALL Eobard's buttons to anger him and get information. ⚡⚡
He learned more than just how to use his powers by watching him.
he learned from oliver and thawne.
yassssssssss slayyyyyyyy
and I'm here for it thawne took everything from him luv it!
Thawne knew what he was doing. That’s why he smirked at the end
I feel like they’re gonna adapt the comic point where Barry was corrupted by the negative speed force and attacked Thawne asking him why he keeps messing with his life and Thawne testily answers that it’s because it’s the only way Barry will be around him
Wait didn't they do this already?
@Art Cannot Be Killed Was it really? I found that scene to be so cheesey. Thawne sounded like a 3 year old girl when he said that
@@obrians-brown1307 they kinda did with bloodwork but that wasn’t really negative speedforce
@@joshuaneanchanglerean1083 no it was cool
@@joshuaneanchanglerean1083 he's a psycho
Thawn is such a clever but vain villain. He has a breakdown at the thought of someone replacing him as the evil in Barry's life, and as soon as barry figures out a clue on how to stop the new speedster, Thawn smiles while tearing up, almost as if he's thinking to himself that while he is the only one for Barry, he is almost proud in a twisted sort of way that Barry is the only one for him too.
He isn't vain. Hes best villian they just screwed him up in this scene
@@knull416 nah
@@tobsonasanya4765 yes
@@knull416 lol he lost his speed and barry taunted him about another speedster of course he would act like this
@@knull416 They nailed his character in this scene
1:50, that line was one of the biggest lines from Thawne bruh, that was deep ⚡️⚡️
100%
Yeah Thawne has the biggest lines
thawne get therapy 😂
He does hate barry but he still wants to be the only speedster to be in barry life that has be his main rivalry
@@ajwebhead21 ain’t wrong about that.
"are you stupid?"
"I am what you made me"
No matter what thawne did to Barry or his friends Barry always goes back to him. That scene was amazing and after seeing the teaser for next weeks I’m definitely excited for it
And he gave shit to his daughter about going to him
@@Ven0m1999. I wants Matt thawne to return in the final season and not Tom!
@@christopherli3736 imagine both of them in the same scene. That would be awesome. I don’t give a shot about explaining how it could be possible, it just would be great itself.
@@westerxxx9220 I’m very sick and tired of Tom thawne
Barry was honestly brutal here. Not even the manipulating and taunting, but how he left without a word once he got his answer.
After Thawne's speech about how much he cares about Barry, Barry shows that he doesn't care about Thawne at all.
Thawne didn’t say he cares about Barry he clearly hates Barry he said it more than twice in less than 30 secs I means his whole existence is to cease Barry from existing
@@Trammykaylavish welloriginal thawne story is kinda all over the place since he has a few backstory but one of them is that his obsession with the flash wasn’t what made him evil him visiting the flash museum then seeing who the reverse flash identity was the trigger and the start and birth of the RF because thawne assumed that’s his destiny once saw who the RF was
@Trammykaylavish the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
@@clark987878 Actually that would be in the middle of love and hate. Love and Hate are opposite strong emotions, indifference is lack of emotion.
Yes, I am fun at parties
@@clark987878no indifference is the opposite of caring. Love and hate are polar opposites
Dude, the his reaction when Barry told him he was replaced, the pain bruh. That actually made me feel bad for him. Tom Cavanagh is just amazing
"No speedster is ever going to feel what I do for you!"
If shipping is for romantic love, what's the term for romantic hate? Because I'm pretty sure that's what Barry & Thawne have going right now.
Planing?
Submarining?
Negative shipping
@@ANP4158Reverse shipping
The fact that thawne said “no one can replace me as the speedster” is actually right cuz no one will replace him except himself from the past future when he was younger before he became the reverse flash when he is perfecting the negative speedforce that why meena was able to do the Lightning bolt move like the flash that who meena said was when she told Barry that she and her co worker been working out her co worker is young thawne 💀
@@jonttuz. No, that appropriately made as much sense as Thawn's timeline.
@@jtwil2191 omg i bursted out laughing HAHAHAHA
yoooo i think u maybe right that co worker is young thawne damn
Just like how you taunted me... always thought you’re better than me. how does it feel to know there’s something greater than you now? This scene was great
“Are you stupid?”
That got me laughing lmao
This scene was amazing and so great to see thawne being taunted by Barry. But his smile at the end of their encounter shows he knows exactly what's going on
0:15
“Are you stupid?”
Hahaha peak genius Thawne
This makes me feel bad for thawne but I'm sure he will be back,he always comes back
@BonkChampXD yes but I don’t see how that thawne is going to help the current form powerless
@@sumtingwong8968 i think Barry is gonna make that Thawne evil and we'll get him as the main RF in the show
"Even Thawnes Plans gots plans!" Ralph
Oh ofc he always fooling Barry
@@joeschmoe1464 the original form will most likely help current thawne gets his power back
Dude that was a "Run, Barry Run" hidden in plain sight
He basically told him something he needed to hear to resolve the plot of the episode
Thawne is showing the perfect mixture of sarrow, desperation, insanity and rage all in one performance. And you can tell he is scheming even now.
Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash is one of the best Arrowverse villains.
well said
One of the best Villains period.
Nah man, I think he's the best villain in the Arrowverse. He's definitely one of the best villains ever in any media.
"This new speedster...doesnt care about you at all"
I hope he meant that in a way of like "they dont even care enough to hate u"
I wonder how thawne gets his powers back and I wonder if thawne will reconnect with the speed force to reconnect with the negative speed force
He always has a plan, it is sure to happen and his hate for him will grow even stronger and push him to go further.
I can't wait for him to return once again with the negative speed
@@cheapskateotaku7123 same, he's using lots of negativity that could help him reconnect it, I wonder how he escapes tho
@@cheapskateotaku7123 he hates Barry so much he gets struck by negative speedforce lightning shenanigans
@@l0sts0ul89 dont think he get struck by negative speed force lightning pretty sure it’s a source of energetic containing in the speed force you need to access
Maybe it'll have something to do with Meena (the new speedster). Perhaps the Thawne we saw in the preview is going to perfect her formula and then turn it negative.
Daaaamn. Barry using one of thawne s tricks against him
ik😂
Considering how long he’s been doing this back and forth with him and how well he knows him at this point it’s not a far stretch to say Barry knows how to get under Thawne’s skin just as well as Thawne gets under Barry’s. The one thing that has always allowed Barry to beat him was Thawne’s ego. His obsession with being better than him has gotten so bad it’s started to make him sloppy
He's been fighting thawne for years if barry knows anything about him it's that he's ego is he loves hate barry he wants to be the main rival in his life basically saying the new speedster may be a new better rival than him is one way to get him.
@@ajwebhead21 thawne literally knows what he’s trying to do. He literally smirked at the end. He’s always 1 step ahead
@@90snickshows84 thawne literally knows what he’s trying to do. He literally smirked at the end. He’s always 1 step ahead
Oh I SO feel like Thawne still knows more than he’s letting on
he is....
He definitely is
Definitely.
This is Thawne we're talking about here. It would be weird if Thawne didn't know more than he led on.
Barry is good at playing people, he was really pushing thawnes buttons. I love this side of him.
The tears in his eyes when he says he won't be replaced
1:49 Thawne just addressed the villain problem.
Damn, Tom Cavanagh really is a gem to this show
I like burned-out Thawne. Tom Cavanaugh always brings some kick to his Wells doppelgangers.
He said "HATE" with so much emotion and passion damn this scene was great
Thawne really hates Barry. If you focus on this throughout the series, you might notice that Thawne may be smarter than being a sociopath. I think his hatred for Barry is about something different.
Omg this was deep even for thawne
the writing we've always wanted...
This is Oscar Winning Award scene right here : I will never be replaced !
This scene is def the best moment between flash and RF and how he felt abt being “replaced” wow top notch
Thawne: No speedster will ever replace me!
Flash: Oh, I don't know. Zoom died, sure. Savy Boy is dead too, but there's still Godspeed and that Rival guy. I wonder how he is...
Edward Clariss is dead
( @@manfrank9562 ) Wait, really?
And red death evil batman/flash hybrid
Nah, Thawne is the best
Evil female speedster is also dead
2:20 Eobard Thawne realised more from this moment even though Barry is faster he is smarter
0:18-0:22 when a teenager/adult asks me what 1+1 is
Thawne's character would be better if his backstory is just wanting to feel special and important. It's very clear he just wants to be remembered. But no, instead it's "You stole my thunder! So I'll destroy your life, because I can't be like you!" Good grief.
That's literally the same thing. And with the story their adapting thawne might end up revealing that the reason he messes with barry is because its the only time he'll be around him
That’s just the surface level motivation. Dig just one level deeper & you’ll find just what you said about him wanting to feel special & important.
@@sonamtashi7706 Exactly, Thawne said as much when he talked about the reason he tried to gain speed was because he wanted to be just like his hero The Flash in the beginning. In most of these super villain cases its those capable of the most intense love that tend to succumb to the most intense levels of hatred from their hurt.
He arose to glory through horrendous acts. He killed his brother (later prevented his brother from being born) so he wouldn't be worried about law enforcement from family stopping him from researching the speed force, he was rejected by his crush so he killed her boyfriend and made her mute, he killed his parents when they learned about his Flash obsession, killed his professor when he tried to stop Thawne from attaining the speed force, and so much more.
Once he became the 25th century "heroic" scarlet speedster, Barry put him in his place after meeting him (at first they were friends but you know the rest).
You literally just repeated the same thing in your own comment
Thawne looking so sad feeling he can be replaced 😟
I like the fact they still keep the arrow show as reference sometimes, like using the cells on Lian Yu
Thawne for all he is.. is still the greatest teacher Barry had
This makes me wanna watch the show again.. omg that was a great scene
“Are you stupid?” 💀
I thought season 5x08 and 5x22 really would have taught Barry to not give Thawne even a snippet of what’s going on outside of his cell because he will use it to his advantages as I’m sure he will do again in the finale
Well he knows who the speedster is, an important point is thwane probably helped her in the past with the formula before Barry took his Powers away, and I bet thwane was even playing Barry after he took his powers and knew he will get his Powers back because the future him told it to him.
I knida now feel bad for thawne , the part where he cries no speedster will ever feel what i fell for you. The look in his face with tears almost made me cry, It also made me feel barry was a bit too cruel to thawne. Even after knowing he is a villian
Thawne murdered Barry’s mom. No one’s more crueler than Thawne. The guy deserves this. And much worse than this
Dude Tom is fckin insane he's such an insane and amazing actor
I hope he gets his powers back cause no matter he did he still my fav villain
Ooh, I bet it hurts Thawne. Knowing your pathetic purpose to kill Barry out of jealousy has led you this and now, there’s a new speedster out there, running free… and that kills you.
Nicely done mocking Thawne, Barry 👍
Wish barry could havr used that on zoom for killing henry and almost leading barry to br turn into savitar.
Thawne planned something I can smell it 2:56
Long time no see
watch the promo for episode 8 x 18. You'll get it
OMG, Tom is just such a great actor that he makes u feel pitiful for him here but hate him as the reverse flash
Tom Cavanagh was amazing in this scene
i like to see barry manipulate thawne to give what he want, he really grow up
That had to feel good for Barry. He deserved to say that he deserves to feel that good.
Could it be frost as the speedster? I mean Barry speed power could have brought her back or is it caitlin
Based on behind the scenes footage, it's Fast Track / Meena Dhawan (Pronounced like Dawn)
@@iiSlightlyModified no its not pronounced at dawn. its pronounced at the-one with the sounding like dhe
@@fasterbaiter Really? I heard Comicstorian pronounce it "Dawn" so I thought that's how it was supposed to be pronounced. Man, I've been lying to myself a while.
@@iiSlightlyModified its an indian name. i dont expect westerners to pronounce it right lol. but yeah its dhe-one.
@@fasterbaiter it's Dawn 😕 it's legit spelled Dawn in comics and repetitive times in justice league shows
Barry has become a master manipulator, he definitely picked that up from thawne, which backfired for thawne. 😂
thawne is like a crazy ex
Thawne looks like if bob ross was not a happy little tree
This has “Noo! Ahhhhhhhhh! This is not how it was supposed to go!” Energy
Literaly watching the show for Eobard and Barry interactions.
Also Barry’s daughter is a nice addition.
Thawne doesn't have his speed to get out and now he is inside the island prison for good.
Is it the same island that oliver was stuck on?
@@andrewsung3965 yea, lian yu
Brings back memories of the arrow tv show. Plus thawne is the third inmate to be stuck in lian yu. First deathstroke then captain cold(if i am correct.)
Not for long
It's all fun and games until there's no bars between them.
this make me feel so bad about him.. imagine wasting 30 years of your life just because you were destined to. you can see his pain. he was just the biggest fans of flash then destiny hits him
1:49 - I think most emotional Thawne scene
I love Tom so much. I hope to see him in other movies and other series because hes SUCH a talented actor!! Please get him in stuff other than the Flash
Every season I start liking reverse flash more and more and honestly I hope by the last season he becomes good in some way
Tom Cavanaugh played Thawn so well. I’d love to see him play as Reverse flash in the new DC Movies or shows.
I feel like Thawne will get so angry over this fact and will either temporarily or permanently regain his speed.
Dude this is sad as fuck like I realize Thawne is a truly evil individual especially in the comics but when I watch this I just can't help but feel so bad for him.
I just love this...hear me out, it's gonna be a loop and Barry's the loop because of how he'll Treat This version of Eobard, the man in the yellow tie
Alright they have really ruined Thawne. In the season before this he was menacing and scary and gave me goosebumps every time I saw him. Now he looks like he’s about to cry because Barry is out of the cell and not him
Because he is locked up in a cell and someone is taunting him, his reaction is extremely realistic compared to “I’ll do this or that to you”
Lmao I hate when people call character development ruining a character. It’s like the people who complain when Kratos doesn’t go beserk and kill every god he sees. People change.
Tom Cavanagh really went I Have No Speed and I Must Scream in this one
"OH please. You got replaced three times; Zoom, Savitar, Godspeed. Only difference is defeating you is like playing whackamole. At least THEY stay down for the count. You? Well you seem to enjoy the humiliation conga you've been dancing to for nearly 30 years."
Lol Sanitarium
@@saminhuq7757 autocorrect turned Savitar into that
This is the greatest form of revenge for Barry. And I am nothing but not happy for him.
Thawne wants Barry bad. “No speeder will feel what I feel for you”
You can't stop me Flash.....and you never will.
Damn Barry really learned how to be a master manipulator from Thawne
“Are you stupid”? Haha 😂 yes 👏!
I think we've come full circle to where this is the barry thawne fights in the future.
Ollie being so butthurt over Prometheus playing Minesweeper on Lian Yu that he had to recreate it in the new universe is hilarious.
Prometheus might not have happened in this universe.
@@assassinsknight even worse(better?) because that means he really got under Ollie's skin if he got erased from existence.
@@targetseeker I wonder what happened to Evelyn sharp, did Oliver give her a new life in post crisis?
@鄧焯文 honestly I don't know. If Mortal Kombat 1 is any indication, even with the best intentions tragic stuff still happens (restarting the universe is a complicated thing).
Thawne went from “we were never truly enemies Barry, I’m not the thing you hate” to “no speedster will ever replace me”
(sigh) Just imagine how great this scene would have been if that was Matt Letscher there
Right but Eric Wallace just refuses to call him
Why doesnt he play him?
@@przemor1150 because Eric Wallace likes Tom Cavanaugh WAY too much and won't just get Matt 🤷🏿♂️
Matt's been wanting to come back since Season 3, but they won't bring him back
Edit: Yes I know, I saw the trailer for episode 18. My statement still holds weight because the showrunners could've brought this man back anytime RF showed up on The Flash, yet they chose to keep using Tom even though Matt wanted to come back.
We know it's not going to stick because of the finale photo leaks of Tom STILL as Reverse Flash, just in a weirder suit
@@przemor1150 apparently the show hasn't called Matt back since The Flash S3. Ironically enough, he recently came back on Legends S7 where they did him dirty
@@calsh14 I mean Tom is fine but now he feels very overused, tbh they should bring back Matt after crysis on Earth X event
Basically what I heard from Barry is “oh you just mad you got no speed :P”
his hair and beard more like sherloque wells😅
Future Thawne is gonna tell everything to his young self and then , the story has began.... ;)
Nadie notó que da un poco de miedo la escena de Thawne cuando dicd no seré remplazado
No one noticed that Thawne's scene when he says i won't be replaced is a little scary
his hatred for him is faster than anything
Thawne’s reaction reminds me of how joker acts with Batman
Seriously anyone else notice he looks like he's about to break down and he's throwing a tantrum 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love the Reverse Flash, but this is never how he’d act. I can’t tell you how much it annoys me that the new writers have ruined so many characters.
He would like this exactly he hates the flash and he’s psychopath you never know how a psycho would act
This is the true reverse flash a intelligent genius/ sociopath
U don't know reverse flash then
Yea this is definitely how Eobard would act in the comics.
? Where'd you get this idea from? The established Reverse Flash from the show? The DC Animated Cartoons? The comics?
*In the CW show,* he's ALWAYS been one to emphasize control. . . the puppet master, the one with the future insight and vast knowledge above all other speedsters. In the rare few instances where we've seen RF without control, he's behaved quite precisely like THIS (ex: Black Flash chasing him; being erased from the timeline in season 1; being erased from the timeline in DC's Legends of Tomorrow; etc). He panics. He becomes emotionally unhinged. He feels FEAR: something he's used to CAUSING, not receiving. Tom isn't the only one emphasizing these traits in RF's psychotic mentality. . . Matt Letscher also hits this right on the nail in DC'd Legends. Hell, even in S1 of the Flash when he first "loses" his speed.
*In the animated series,* we've seen Reverse Flash be egotistical and one step ahead of Barry throughout numerous points. He truly is a sadistic, twisted, egotistical psychopath that only wants to cause Barry pain. Yet, in the instance where Barry reset the timeline from Flashpoint, he became even more unhinged trying to stop him. . . until he caught a bullet with his face. Afterwards, where he survived his headshot, he descended even more into madness and *still* he could not bear the thought of losing to the Flash, ever.
*In the comics,* RF (Prof. Zoom) was consumed with not just the thought of destroying Barry, but REPLACING him. He wanted to BE Barry. He wanted Iris, and killed her when he couldn't have her. After his death and resurrection, he STILL could not bear the thought of Barry NOT being destroyed by Zoom's own hands, so he went through SO many lengths to f*ck with Barry's life.
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From everything we know of the character, he is CONSUMED by thoughts of Barry. So, imagine if he had to live knowing he'd lost his speed, lost his ability to destroy or replace barry, lost his life, AND that he'd lost to BARRY ALLEN, the man he swore to kill and replace? Don't you think he'd be pretty emotional and unhinged too? Because Tom hits this right on the nail. The Reverse-Flash we're USED to seeing -the puppet master; the one with control- is gone. What we're left with is a shell of his former glory. He should NOT continue to appear calm and collected; he should appear unhinged and mental, as he does.
But of course, there's always the possibility he's faking and playing/buttering barry up.
And like someone else said. . .you can't predict sociopaths/psychopaths and how they might react [you can to some degree if you perform an extensive case study, but that's getting into psychology and science, not fictitious comic book characters].
That no was cold
You know what's coming in the finale?
That face swap of Matt and Tom's from season 1
Tom will somehow end up meeting Matt's reverse flash and he will face swap with Tom.
Gonna be amazing
I love Tom, at it's worst he still makes the show better but he not only was given terrible material, that delivery when he's screaming felt like a rehearsal take that was used.