More Brutal Than Devilman - VIOLENCE JACK
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Review and Analysis of Violence Jack
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Spoiler alert:
His name is *DEVILMAN.*
How a story like this could be made into torture porn with zero ties to Devilman in the OVA series is beyond me.
So he's the original
the torture porn is still there in the manga though. I think the issues with the OVAs lie more in subtler changes; I think their horribleness is hugely exaggerated by very sensitive people but they're also not quite great.
@@RaymondoPerson Well, when it comes to the Devilman franchise, gorn is practically a requirement. In fact, its willingness to play fast and loose with shonen manga conventions ultimately made it influential.
@@NebLleb "play fast and loose with shonen manga conventions" what conventions?
I like how his name is Violence Jack instead of Violent Jack.
Makes it feel jack is an embodiment of Violence instead of violence being a feature of Jack.
It's not his name. It's what he is violence and a jack-knife
I thought the same thing when I read his name and never would’ve thought of it like that
I think it's just broken English
I watched the OVA years ago and then read the Manga. It's brutal and that's an understatement. It's definitely the godfather of all ultra violent manga and anime with Jack serving as the inspiration for a lot of anti heroes like Guts and Kenshiro, although unlike them he's not a hero in any sense and has very little redeeming qualities. Dude's just a straight up animal who only lives to fight and kill and he doesn't care about collateral damage or the people who end up getting caught in the way. It's kind of awesome in an over the top way.
An anti-villain!
Lol, I’d say defending the weak, never killing the innocent, and eliminating evil are quite a few redemptive qualities.
@@christoferprestipino7433 Well I mean he straight up decapitates a little girl in the first chapter albeit by accident but he really didn't give a shit, but Anon is right. He does goes through some character development later on but in those first stories he'd be an almost a straight up villain if the actual villains weren't even worse.
@@basementofmars1963 I love that about Jack-- given who he actually was once, it makes sense he starts at that point.
The contrast with Shin Violence Jack (where someone ELSE takes up the role of Jack and it makes sense if you've seen Devilman Saga (or the spinoff by the same mangaka as Devilman Strange Days) is actually a pretty genius narrative move from Go Nagai that fits right in with the themes he sets up in Devilman and in Saga respectively.
(I'm trying to dodge probable identity spoilers pretty hard... Sorry if I failed!)
There's a slight divide amongst fans about Jack's portrayal throughout the manga. Some prefer the kill-'em-all psycho from the first chapters who would kill anyone, even innocent hostages. Others prefer Jack's latter portrayal of an all-knowing force of nature who appears when needed to help out the arc's central character.
In my opinion, I prefer the latter one. Because Jack's original identity was given a second chance and became able to overcome the limitations of both humans and demons through sheer spiritual power.
Like Mad Max, Violence Jack is more of a POV character. The real protagonists are Ryuu Takuma, Tenma and each consecutive arc's designated heroes.
I’m glad Violence Jack aka Devilman won in the end
Me too
Now i understand this message xd
Because devilman is stuck in a pain and death loop?
Yeah man. It gave me the closure I needed for Devilman
@@yusukeelric there’s no time loop since Ryu takuma the kid lived to be an old man
Violence Jack...without a doubt, one of the most brutal manga I ever read. I remember watching the three OVAs some time ago, and wanting to see more of it. And then is when I started ton read the manga, and, oh god...it sure was a crazy read. While there are some points that I didn't like about it, there were others that I totally loved. In terms of arcs and chapters, the ones that featured Mondo and Mido were by far my favorites, I just love their dynamic.
Back around 2001 or 02 when I was 11 or 12, I saw violence Jack because the Sci-fi channel played it super late at night and I set my video recorder to tape it.
They played the English dub uncensored, uncut version!
My little mind was warped from that day on.
Violence Jack is a senseless and visceral gorefest that revels in edge, and I love it
Violence Jack: Evil Town makes Devilman Crybaby look like a Toon Disney show.
Damn I wonder if it will get animated
I'd love a crybaby version of violence jack honestly
Check out Amon: Apocalypse of Devilman if you've not already seen it. Ramps up the bloodshed and violence to fairly high levels :)
@@ironmongol75 damn
@@ironmongol75 it was bloody alright but evil town still holds the title though,where else can you find a scene of a7 feet tall giant splitting a woman in half by pulling her legs like a chicken
Most badass, explicit, un-PC Vintage Manga/Anime.
Before we had Berserk, we had Violence Jack.
fun fact, violence jack also acted as a crossover for some of go nagai's previous works because several of the characters he created (example : cutie honey and mazinger) appeared in the manga, those 2 escaped criminals are from the guerilla high manga. go nagai is no stranger to having his works crossover whether it's a cameo or outright shown, even violence jack was reference in mazinger editon z : the impact.
@Anon E. Mous oh my bad🤣
I'd assume that Go Nagai had the ending planned all along. He's a master story teller and I personally love how the tale works out as Jack's revealed as Akira/ Devilman.
Very interested to see Yu Kinutani's Violence Jack 20XX. I'm a huge fan of his Strange Days and Darkside of Devilman series and have high expectations for this. Question is, will any of the Violence Jack books get an English printing? Probably bloody not!
I'd love for netflix to do make universe where devilman and violence jack are connected in one media's universe
Like a violence jack sequel to crybaby
Interesting 🤔
Violence Jack Crybaby
It takes 10 Settlers to farm for every 1 Guard you have.
Raiders do not last. They die for stupid reasons & eventually they weaken & age. Settlements (that endure) remain after Warlords perish.
Mad Max was a warning. Don't be a Raider. Be a Minuteman.
We are stronger when we work together for the benefit for all.
Ultimately, more farmers is better for everyone, but if you're farming you have no time for Guard Patrols & Night-watch.
I compare this manga to One Punch Man in terms of storytelling. Of course, Saitama is the manga character of that manga, but the story can focus on other characters and other plot points, while still having an overarching story with the main character, in this case, Saitama wanting to have a real fight. Much in the same way, the main villain and antagonist of Violence Jack is the Slum King, and while that remains consistent throughout, the story can shift to show other perspectives and stories that don't focus on the main plot.
What I like most about this series, however, is the world-building aspect. A traditional post-apocalyptic story focuses mainly on the devastation and destruction of the world, and the evil gangs and warlords that come to power. While this manga certainly has that, it also introduces things that most people wouldn't initially think about. New sports played in the wasteland like Hyper-Grappling, sci-fi elements like the Iron Kaiser, and magical elements like Mido and the Fire Majin's. And of course, all of those characters and stories are from other Go Nagai works, which makes it even more impressive that can be implemented and still be lore-friendly and immersive.
The end doesn't come out of nowhere. I for one was not surprised in the least. The changing protagonists also were not jarring. Most of these Manga are alchemical works. If u know alchemy u can see its patterns in all. Even art that is not trying to be alchemical , of course
what are you even trying to say?
Violence Jack was one of the first anime I saw as a kid, growing up before the internet I could only get random VHS tapes of random movies and shows xD
That ending 😳 I wish I finished this manga woulda blew my mind at that age 🤣
I'm assuming you skipped straight to the ending(thanks to that part being untranslated), let me tell ya, me(who has read the whole manga thanks to the spanish translation), that the whole twist gets more hints and makes more sense in the latter arcs. Also Ryu and Tenma from Hells Wind Arc get more character develpment there.
Is there a place where you can read the completed manga?
when i was a kid, i used to crawl around on all fours and pretend to be a dog.
ryo and miki still do this, apparently.
Ahh Violence Jack, so glad you finally checked out this ultra gory seinen classic Ryan! Check out the OVA’s too! Their equally fucked up!
There were enough uncanny similarities within Violence Jack that made me wonder whether George Miller had come across some volumes of the manga as inspiration for the Mad Max films.
So a neat thing about violence jack is that a lot of the characters you see other than the obvious ones are also Characters that were from other go nagai works, or were later used again.
The motorcycle lady is jun hono from mazinger, and tatsuma & mondo were from another old manga of his, and were later turned into women and reused in Kotestushin Jeeg with the names Tatsuko and Monko
Seems he is a fan of osamu tezuka's Star system.
The Japanese fans actually refer to Nagai and Ishikawa's crossover properties (everything that crosses over with Devilman and Getter Robo, basically) as the "Dynamic System" for exactly the reason you pointed out.
Also Devilman Saga more or less confirms that Go Nagai's works are all part of a multiverse (with Amon possibly not being a demon, but a hyperdimensional being like the Infinitism Mazinkaiser and the Getter Emperor, that crosses into other Devilman universes to fight God...)
Alright you did it awesome! After someone told me that violence jack was a secret sequel to devilman I had to check it out. At first I thought they were lying but regardless I was enjoying the manga series till the end where I lost my fucking mind. I even went as far as to buy the violence jack ova trilogy but I still have yet watch hells wind.
I always took Devilman related media with the same explanation I took the ending of Devilman: Is another timeline. God has been resseting the world over and over just to punish and fuck with Satan, is explained before, and depending of how that goes, God reshapes the world again and again, letting things happen freely. Now in Devilman Lady things really change and she has like the "best" outcome from Go Nagai stories since she tries to break the cycle in a very smart way...
Now granted I'm more Fist of the North Star fangirl cause Kenshiro is lord and saviour and is amazingly profound between the guts and blood everywhere buuuuuuut Devilman Lady deserves the most love. I think that came after someone hugged Go Nagai and reminded him the world is not THAT bad lol
The entire saga of the Devilman manga, including Mao Dante, is just filled with grotesque (and epic) twist and turns.
Devil-Lady could have easily been a second season for Devilman Crybaby. There is SO Much potential for the anime carrying forward.
I remembered coming across a version of Jack where he meets Sirene, the Slum King is actually Zenon and Mazinger Z was a demon like hybrid who was protecting Kouji Kabuto as a kid
When I read violence jack I swear to God I thought Miura was gonna some how combine duranki, Berserk, and Gigantomakia
Go Nagai always rehashes devilman
In the end, neither of them win. “God” reincarnates them into another story
Maybe if they both teamed up instead of the endless battle, I’d read that
That's the end of Devilman Lady you're describing.
Yes it's strange but cool how a completely different story is really the first story the creator created.
The depression this anime gave me including the Netflix anime were more horrifying than the gore
Yea its really well written
@RealLifeRyan Great review! I really enjoyed watching it and listening to your thoughts on manga! Did you know that both Fist of the North Star and Berserk were inspired by Violence Jack?
8:22 go nagai is the LAST person to care about stigma
Nice one Ryan! I've been curious about this one for a while. I stopped watching after you mentioned the incoming spoiler, so sorry if you addressed this already, but have you seen the anime? I think it was a movie but I forget off hand. My friend said it was good.
Also, I hope you one day talk about the Rikki Oh manga and live action film. Seems like something that would be up your alley!
This was awesome!
Someone had to bring this one up.
Did not expect this video to get a thumbnail change
This seems absolutely insane I already love it
Sooooo after Devilman, Go Nagai was known as a total genius mangaka.
....But then after This manga, and Devil lady....He might actually be a crazy person.
My personal favourite arcs are “Hell’s Wind”, “Hell Town” and “King Of Beasts”
You forgot to mention what the slum king does to Miki pretty regularly with his dogs!
I really want to see you opinion on devilman lady .It's the official sequel for devilman. While it's not the best manga it does explain what happens to akira and ryo after the events of devilman/violence jack. It's kinda open-ended but at least it does give closure to the relationship between akira and ryo
Ah Violence Jack, one of the few English dubs I'll watch. Not because the dub is good but because it's laugh out loud bad and bat shit insane.
I've always had a soft spot for Violence jack, its one of the things that got me into Anime when i was 13. Stayed up way to late one night to watch bubble gum crisis and the OVA was on after that.
Its a shame given how influential this manga is that its never got a official English release. This and Guyver are on the top of my wish list for a psychical releases.
Also this manga helped influenced Berserk. The part in evil town where one of the sections turn into beasts and does what it does the the girl section looks a lot like Gut's beast of darkness. Dunno if this was something you didn't pick up on or just couldn't mention in the video due to youtube being youtube.
Where can I read this? Just searched eBay and Amazon etc to buy the mangas but no luck. Lots of DVDs for the anime to buy though. Are these worth picking up?
As far as I know, the only way to read the manga in English is via scan translations which, sadly, are still incomplete. That's the only reason I still haven't read it myself, because I'd love to read it all in order. As for the DVD's of the anime, I say check it out if you like the super dark and sadistic old OVA's of the 80's and 90's. It gets beat up by a lot of PC people who just trash it as pure crap when clearly its their loathing of the (admittedly very offensive) subject matter driving that opinion. IMO, I really enjoyed them for what they are, absolutely brutal and oppressively dark post-apocalyptic fare. The atmosphere and world felt very intriguing to me though the whole time and I personally loved its insane, over the top nature.
@@ZoddVance cheers for the reply. Much appreciated
@@ZoddVance you can read the whole manga in spanish online if that helps you
Has anyone seen the anime? Is it any good?
Edit: Holy shait it is great and the sound track is sublime.
There are a few golden 80's anime series for me left to see, next is demon city shijuro.
Wow I literally just got done reading devilman for the first time 10 minutes ago.
I loved violence Jack a lot
Those images of the woman with their limbs cut off reminds of that internet story of that man who would recreate a womans look for his own use and others who would pay. He would surgically remove their limbs at the elbows and knees. Remove their tongue and all their teeth. Shave their heads. They would be kept alive with only intravenous sustenence. They would then be sold to people to use them as they seem fit. And when he was done with them he would encase them in concrete.
In violence jack there are literally children getting murdered man the Japanese back then didn't hold back
Facts they go all out
@@itsDjjayyArt they went all out in nanking
Violence Jack and Fist of the North Star were huge influences for Berserk
No wonder my life was so messed up.
Violence Jack was the first Manga I ever read randomly
And that’s cause it was in my HS library.
Seen Devilman years later and I legit said wait?
Violence Jack?!
Now I know tho.
It’s a after Prequel or something. Lol.
Holy shit .. he's devilmaaaaan
I wouldn't say it didn't end conclusively since Jack took out Slum King, then Devilman took out Satan, and Jack's "chosen one" Ryu played an instrumental role in ushering in a new age. But naturally evil will never be truly defeated, so Jack's still out there somewhere. I don't really feel it's disjointed as much as episodic. There's always a very strong thematic core holding the stories together, and while I'm not sure if I prefer the Devilman twist or not based on what I've read so far... it yet again fits very well thematically because Jack shows us the world we'd end up in if we refuse to follow Devilman's teachings even when given a fresh start. Not to mention the whole series being a big Go Nagai crossover just waiting for THE Nagai series, Devilman, to make its appearance at the end - look at Japanese Wikipedia for the crossovers in every arc. It's less of a straightforward story and more like an American cartoon a la Samurai Jack, or a long-running Kazuo Koike manga; traveling to new locations and meeting new characters every arc is part of what makes it feel like a legendary quest. Jack didn't need to constantly return to Ryu because he was the one who understood his philosophy best & was already becoming a better & better leader on his own.
Even without the untranslated stuff (to English at least) the concept of existence being a "collection of ideas" thought up by powerful beings, either those living in godly or demonic realms or humans powerful enough to tap into supernatural power from the end of the Reaper Police arc & the entirety of the Hyper Grapple arc makes the twist work even better.
Never read the manga but I seen the OVA as a teenager during the 90s....thought it was Fist knockoff....boy was I wrong
Didn’t think I’d see a review for this lol.
Ayyo I read that awhile back👌👌👌
I prefer that Jack were multiples clones cryogenized in many places until a Japanese apocalypse caused by earthquakes, tsunamis, normal in Japan, but if it were devastating, it is a good idea that some genius puts multiple clones without conscience or past, like wolverine, to protect the weakest population.
I wish the manga would get a release like 7 seas did with devilman
Voilent jack as a zaraki kenpachi
The most violent manga I've ever read is Ichi the Killer
Great video! I may check this manga out :)
I FUCKING KNEW IT!?!?!?!? FUCKING CALLED IT!?!?
Love Violence Jack.
I still stand by saying we wouldn’t have berserk without the violence Jack manga
So thats the end of Violence Jack, thanks for that.
One of my fave 80s anime
I love Violence Jack!
I am glad, I watched this video!
Violence Jack Tantrum
WHEN, NETFLIX???
This is a Well Done video
Please take a look at Shotaro Ishinimori's Skull Man, it was the foundation for Kamen Rider.
Man...Kanto is not a city, is a whole region of Japan. Saying the city of Kanto is like if you say "the city of California". And yes, Go Nagai have his own universe. Most of his work is connected in certain way or make references to his different histories.
i read the shin violence jack, an noticed the clearer ending with akira fudo revealed as the slum king
Where's my knife, Ryan?
(Great video btw! )
Uncle Nagai is an absolute madman.
Oh wow someone talking about violence jack for once? Nice
At the mid-point of the story, Jack mentions that Ryu is the one who needs to defeat Slum King in order for Kanto to truly be saved.
So the Devilman ending came out of nowhere and proves that it was not something Go Nagai planned.
I still enjoyed most of the manga btw
Haha you read violence Jack, didn't think I'd see the day!
Way much better than the so called disney comedians and marvel pantomime clowns of Hollywood
I think that thats Rios punishment from god: be reborn in new life and ending up fighting Akira or Devilman again and again. Theres more series from Nagai Go that are just new reincarnations of Devilmen
Why people like bloody violence over the top and gore as entertainment I don't get it! I prefer standard violence like Inuyasha or Star Wars where you fight like a duel and not making it a torture, except for the cutting of the hands!
That ending hit me like a truck
I want a magic knife
Violence Jack is one of the most epic mangas I’ve read so far!
As for the OVAs, I honestly did not like them. I did get a bit of enjoyment out of Evil Town and Hell’s Wind though since they are adaptations of my favourite arcs but they could’ve been adapted better. The only thing I liked about the OVAs the most was the voice acting (Japanese versions), music and the action.
Was Go dissatisfied with the downer ending of Devilman? Wanted to amend it more "positively"?
Yeah i'm gonna wacth the ovas there gonna be great
Wonder if this explains that weird cross over with Cyborg 009.
Aight Imma go read
I need sources for the English translation of the manga..
it isn't licensed in english so there are only fanmade translations
Violence Jack 3 OVAS and a manga, the OG of violent anime, rape, and cannibalism.
Violence jack needs a video game adaption on ps5
Netflix should make the series into an Anime ( if not because of the gratuitous violence Shudder should make it )
You should read holyland it’s not as violence as most other sienen manga but it’s a good read
Finally found it it's a true experience inna?
Guys, lots of people say they have read this manga in the comments, but I NEVER managed to find it in english, any help!?????
Honestly whenever there is this whole contemplation on society and survival of the fittest it always rings sorta hollow to me. like yeah, you could call the success in these societal systems illusions but the same could be said for literally any achievement that isn't strictly on the lines of helping you breed or protect/support your progeny to have them further spread your genes. under this logic basically, 99.9% of achievements and accomplishments are irrelevant. yeah, in a harsh lawless unforgiving wasteland brutality and violence will probably reign king but we actively attempt to avoid such a world and make it more accommodating to people who arent capable or willing to commit such brutality.
The Japanese Chainsaw scene and american scene in OVA was more brutal and uncutted
Violence Jack's OVAs are on a whole other level of screwed up. Watch Evil Town if you want to see some shit.
Me and my sister saw the Anime talk about hardcore.