Hey all this is Garrett’s Dad, Vince. I have seen a few comments wondering about my rifle and why I couldn’t get the safety off. It was not a gun a malfunction- it was my error. I certainly don’t enjoy admitting this, but Garrett and I want to be able to help as many people as possible be properly prepared when in bear country. My rifle is a Tikka T3. But I grew up hunting with a Savage model 110. The Savage has the slide safety right behind the bolt. The Tikka has more of a rocker on the right side of the action. But it also has little square pin that projects rearward behind the bolt when there is a round chambered. When Garrett emptied his mag and we saw the bears head move back towards us, my instincts must have reverted back to my Savage 110 safety location as I was trying to push the square pin behind the bolt forward on the Tikka. That lasted about 1.5-2 seconds but it was enough for the bear to roll off the log and slip into the timber. Very embarrassing for me, but I want to be real about how things go in these situations. I can also say that my neoprene scope cover (zipped tied to the middle of the scope and when removed hangs on the left side of the scope by the zip tie - has always been a good system until this situation) was an issue and my brain wouldn’t allow me to shoulder my rifle as it would have partially blocked my view of the bear. I also am not sure of where my scope power was dialed to. My rifle also felt like it was 20 feet long - felt VERY slow to maneuver. So, for me, no more scope covers (may look at the Butler Creek Blizzard see through covers for rain and snow), always have scope dialed to lowest setting, and most importantly, practice with your hunting rifle at close range from the hip, halfway up and at full shoulder looking through the scope. I have already trained this way with my rifle and I was very humbled to see just how difficult it is to actually hit a frontal bear size target (not moving) at 5-10 yards, in a hurry, from the hip or anywhere between hip and full shoulder. I will always train at close range in hurried fashion with my handgun AND rifle from now on. I can also attest that within 10 yards, if you don’t hit the bear with your first rifle shot, there won’t be time for a second shot. Thank you Chuke for getting this info out to those of us who need it. I would love to see content regarding the different considerations of shooting a bear off of your partner without shooting your partner yet making a quick clean kill so that your partner doesn’t suffer the effects of a further adrenalized bear. Or could this be a reasonable situation for bear spray? Would love to see a discussion that would lead to “a best plan for most situations”. That is what I expected to have to do in this encounter. Glad Garrett handled it instead.
Thanks for sharing your story. I’m not being critical in any way. This sounds like a classic case of the law of primacy. It states what you learn first is what you revert back to, especially in an intense situation. As we said in the Marine Corps, train like you fight. Fight like you train. Applicable in all situations.
Amazing interview Chuke!!!! Please reach out to others to make more videos like this? Being an ex-guide in the Rockies, and still living in the Rockies, every outdoor lover needs to hear the truth and how to handle these situations. And YOU Sir, are helping educate more people than anybody else. Bravo to both you and Garrett.....and Vince!!
@@anonymousf454 Short answer - yes Longer answer - to quickly summarize, the reason most folks are switching to 10mm is because of its availability now, round count, follow up shots, less bulky/easier to carry, just to name a few. For most folks revolver follow up shots are slower compared to a semi auto pistol. I'm answering you in good faith and assuming you are not trolling. I'm not being rude just trying to help, we are all newbies at some point and have to learn some how.
Wyoming native for the past 61 years and Wyoming is the best place for everything that is good! Hunting was Awesome in the 70's to 80's its went downhill since then sadly.
It went downhill regarding game population, or? Also, is that a late 50's Chevy Apache? Also, I had the great opportunity to visit Wyoming in 1979, '83 and '93, what a beautiful state!
A VERY important interview to document a handgun being used against a mature grizzly. I own both the G20 and the G29. Have been carrying my Hellcat Pro 9mm this week here in Northern Idaho hunting Whitetail, but I will probably put the G29 back on after listening to this.
Last weekend I was hunting mountain whitetail in NW Montana on private timberland, block management. There’s so many grizzlies in there and the cover is so tight I hunt with a 12 pump, 7 in the mag 1 in the chamber. I was 50 yards off a logging road in thick cover and heard something coming so I took the safety off and listened. I caught a glimpse of something wide enough and black enough that I thought it was a moose. No moose tag so I waited for the parade. Next thing it was a big griz at 10 yards. I could see how shiny his nose was. I had the bead on his head and I said Hey Bear! I must have backed up a step because I bumped a small tree and dropped some snow. He took off like a scalded cat and I turned around and did the same thing! We need a hunting season down here!!
“Let’s do this”. That’s s great mindset to be in. His timing was perfect. Had it caught him off guard he might have hesitated or random fired. I can’t imagine. Meanwhile…proud dad.
Love your channel! The fact that you got an actual interview with Mr. Kalkowski and managed to get answers to all of the questions I had about his encounter is a great bonus.
CHUKE I HAVE A GLOCK 20 GEN 4. I use Underwood 200 grain. NO JAMS EVER I bought 220 grain Underwood that would keyhole on paper at 20 yards. Then I bought a six inch KKM barrel that never keyholes.
What a great interview and personal story. I think it needs to be mentioned that the bear in this incident was not very big. I only say that because this went very well for them and I think her small size played a role in her quick death.
What a experience! I’ve got several hundred rounds of the HSM bear load. I’ve not shot too many of them thru my G20 & G40 since there lead and not coated. I shoot the HSM mostly thru my 10mm carbine. What a father son experience,thanks Garrett for sharing your story!
Nice to see a young American man with obvious amounts of testosterone, deep, confident voice, a functioning brain that can articulate a thought...courage under fire...on and on...nice job.
I bought a Glock 20 in 1993 with the stock barrel or the Lone Wolf 9" barrel it will shoot any 10mm or .40 cal ammo. It is nice to be young like this wood-wise young man with quick accurate reflexes.
A buddy of mine was on a MT fire crew flying outside of LoLo one day. Told me that their bosses told them to not record the # of grizzlies they were counting from the sky. He said there were a ton! Awesome interview, Chuke!
Good job surviving this! For anyone interested, the full power loads are what gives the glock 20 trouble. The lower power stuff works good. Hsm is considered weak compared to buffalo bore but it will be more reliable. The most important thing is reliability as this guy knows first hand. I know this country well, and this area has the highest concentration of grizz anywhere I've seen in the lower 48 especially June to August up above the tree line where the moths are.
Great job Chuke, this is the interview we all wanted to see!!! The fact he unloaded 15 on her point blank and she was still alive is scary, reminds me of the one in Idaho where they ended up with about 30 rounds between two hunters (one carrying 45 and one caring 10mm) My big takeaway is having multiple armed hunters greatly increases your odds of survival, and HSM Bear Load is good enough.
Great interview chuke!!! Garrett seems like a great young man and very knowledgeable about his environment and hunting in his environment. Go Garrett!!!!
This is a really great interview and you both did really well. This is by far the most informative coverage of this attack I've seen and better than any on other attacks I've seen. This sort of content is what provides value and can help folks better understand what a bear attack is all about and just how it is likely to play out, which helps everyone prepare as best they can. Good job!
That was a great interview. One question that could have been asked is what could they have done to prevent the attack in the first place? I think situational awareness is key to prevent this from happening when you are hunting in known grizzly country. He never mentioned seeing any bear sign but I wonder if there were tracks or fresh scat. That would be helpful information for anyone out in the woods.
Wow! Fascinating interview. Best post yet. On another note, I can't for the life of me, understand how NOT having a round in the chamber would even be considered. In LE, we ALWAYS had our side arms in that condition. Whether a 1911 or Glock it didn't matter. The guns are safe if your using good trigger discipline. In bear country? NOT even a question. One thing I'd like to see, is a bullet comparison between the HSM, Buffalo Bore. (Maybe you already have and I don't know about it.) Anyway, I wish we could get these interview after every incident. Great work.
Great info here. This is exactly why I bought a Gunfighter Kenai chest holster for my Glock 20. Its a heavy duty Kydex holster and the weapon fits snugly w/o any additional retention devices. American Made in Rathdrum Idaho. The other holsters are great quality.
Thank you Garrett for interviewing with Chuke! Very informative. Our hikes are just for the awe of nature. Hunting experience zip, except for varmints around our farm. We carry Springfield xdm elite full size and compact with hardcast Underwood 200gr 705+/- ft lbs. Bear spray and camera gear on chest rig, gun in an Aliengear hip holster on strong side. Would like a low chest/abdomen. cross draw under the camera gear. To me that would be the ideal set up. Always better to be prepared for worst case scenarios, than to say should of, could of, would of...😢
Great video Chuke! That young man has a good head on his shoulders! Got a couple of boxes of that hsm during covid ,all I could find at that time. Gen 4 and kkm barrel. Your videos made me nervous about stock barrel blowing up.
I'm glad no one got hurt ! Great mind set on that individual. Solid choice Gen 4 . Chuke " did you goto Fred Rohels channel Subartic Alaska ? Take care have a great Thanksgiving " !
Meeteetse is 32 miles south of Cody. The Greybull runs through town. Upstream, past the Wood River, is indeed the Pitchfork range. The cane breaks and brush are thick. Big bore handguns are really encouraged for outdoor activities.
Great interview, Chuke! 👍 You are my first channel every morning, then the Lake Hood webcam and Brooks Falls webcam. 😊 i miss Alaska, but not so much shoveling snow.
Hey all this is Garrett’s Dad, Vince. I have seen a few comments wondering about my rifle and why I couldn’t get the safety off. It was not a gun a malfunction- it was my error. I certainly don’t enjoy admitting this, but Garrett and I want to be able to help as many people as possible be properly prepared when in bear country.
My rifle is a Tikka T3. But I grew up hunting with a Savage model 110. The Savage has the slide safety right behind the bolt. The Tikka has more of a rocker on the right side of the action. But it also has little square pin that projects rearward behind the bolt when there is a round chambered. When Garrett emptied his mag and we saw the bears head move back towards us, my instincts must have reverted back to my Savage 110 safety location as I was trying to push the square pin behind the bolt forward on the Tikka. That lasted about 1.5-2 seconds but it was enough for the bear to roll off the log and slip into the timber. Very embarrassing for me, but I want to be real about how things go in these situations. I can also say that my neoprene scope cover (zipped tied to the middle of the scope and when removed hangs on the left side of the scope by the zip tie - has always been a good system until this situation) was an issue and my brain wouldn’t allow me to shoulder my rifle as it would have partially blocked my view of the bear. I also am not sure of where my scope power was dialed to. My rifle also felt like it was 20 feet long - felt VERY slow to maneuver.
So, for me, no more scope covers (may look at the Butler Creek Blizzard see through covers for rain and snow), always have scope dialed to lowest setting, and most importantly, practice with your hunting rifle at close range from the hip, halfway up and at full shoulder looking through the scope. I have already trained this way with my rifle and I was very humbled to see just how difficult it is to actually hit a frontal bear size target (not moving) at 5-10 yards, in a hurry, from the hip or anywhere between hip and full shoulder. I will always train at close range in hurried fashion with my handgun AND rifle from now on. I can also attest that within 10 yards, if you don’t hit the bear with your first rifle shot, there won’t be time for a second shot.
Thank you Chuke for getting this info out to those of us who need it. I would love to see content regarding the different considerations of shooting a bear off of your partner without shooting your partner yet making a quick clean kill so that your partner doesn’t suffer the effects of a further adrenalized bear. Or could this be a reasonable situation for bear spray? Would love to see a discussion that would lead to “a best plan for most situations”. That is what I expected to have to do in this encounter. Glad Garrett handled it instead.
Thanks for the info, very helpful. Glad you’re both okay.
Chuke, please pin Vince’s comment!
You raised a great kid! Glad you're both ok.
Thanks for sharing your story. I’m not being critical in any way. This sounds like a classic case of the law of primacy. It states what you learn first is what you revert back to, especially in an intense situation. As we said in the Marine Corps, train like you fight. Fight like you train. Applicable in all situations.
This was a learning experience for all of us! Gross motor skills take over in situations where stress is introduced!
Great content!
Have to admit this is one of the best posts on this channel. This is useful and interesting. Keep up the excellent work.
@@hillbillyscholar8126 thank you!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures There are a good deal of great videos Chuke has put out for years now..
Awesome young man, parents should be proud to have a well spoken and intelligent son, thanks for bringing us this great interview Chuke.
This!
Great interview. HSM should be sponsoring this young man with a whole hoard of ammo. Glad he had the mindset to deal with this encounter decisively.
This story has the most details in one story I’ve heard. Firearm, ammo, bear size, shot placements and anatomical damage… thanks Chuke!
Exactly, all the details we are looking for.
Agree. This is how things are to be done.
Good job nice report😊
Hey Garret from Casper. Good on you for being ready!
Amazing interview Chuke!!!! Please reach out to others to make more videos like this? Being an ex-guide in the Rockies, and still living in the Rockies, every outdoor lover needs to hear the truth and how to handle these situations. And YOU Sir, are helping educate more people than anybody else. Bravo to both you and Garrett.....and Vince!!
@@shannonjenkins2095 absolutely thank you!
Would you think a good 357 magnum loaded with something heavy like 180 grain hard cast would do good as a protective firearm in those great outdoors?
@@anonymousf454 Short answer - yes
Longer answer - to quickly summarize, the reason most folks are switching to 10mm is because of its availability now, round count, follow up shots, less bulky/easier to carry, just to name a few. For most folks revolver follow up shots are slower compared to a semi auto pistol.
I'm answering you in good faith and assuming you are not trolling. I'm not being rude just trying to help, we are all newbies at some point and have to learn some how.
@@anonymousf454yes of course. 357 mag is a potent round with Underwood or buffalo bore ammo.
@chase4116 Would you need a 6 or 8 inch barrel though?
Love the fact we get to hear this first hand! Great job to both Garrett and Chuke for this video.
Wyoming native for the past 61 years and Wyoming is the best place for everything that is good! Hunting was Awesome in the 70's to 80's its went downhill since then sadly.
It went downhill regarding game population, or? Also, is that a late 50's Chevy Apache? Also, I had the great opportunity to visit Wyoming in 1979, '83 and '93, what a beautiful state!
Great story! And gotta say, great kid! Great job Garrett!
Cheers to all the pops, raising your boys right!
A VERY important interview to document a handgun being used against a mature grizzly. I own both the G20 and the G29. Have been carrying my Hellcat Pro 9mm this week here in Northern Idaho hunting Whitetail, but I will probably put the G29 back on after listening to this.
Last weekend I was hunting mountain whitetail in NW Montana on private timberland, block management. There’s so many grizzlies in there and the cover is so tight I hunt with a 12 pump, 7 in the mag 1 in the chamber.
I was 50 yards off a logging road in thick cover and heard something coming so I took the safety off and listened. I caught a glimpse of something wide enough and black enough that I thought it was a moose. No moose tag so I waited for the parade. Next thing it was a big griz at 10 yards. I could see how shiny his nose was.
I had the bead on his head and I said Hey Bear! I must have backed up a step because I bumped a small tree and dropped some snow. He took off like a scalded cat and I turned around and did the same thing!
We need a hunting season down here!!
SAVE THE BEARS!!!❤🦁👀🦁❤🦁🍔👶🍔👶🍔🦴🦵🫀🦶🫁☝️🧠💪🫁💀🍔👶🍔🦁👀❤️!! People bad,Bears❤ good!- kamala 2024
@ Bears are bears and people are people. Very similar animals really.
Thanks Garrett for coming on and sharing your experience. Glad you and dad came out safe!
Wow, your dad is proud of you
Cody, Wyoming is a very beautiful place
This shows that energy isn't the end all, be all. What a remarkable young man! Greetings from W. Montana!
mattspriggs5945
And neither is capacity... it's all situational.
@shadowcastre totally agree! The shot placement crowd forgets this when discussing big bore...good point!
but he scored about 12 hits and still couldnt kill the bear
@megamilyon6111 he went home without being injured - I would say that's a success.
@@mattspriggs5945 true, but at least half of the cases where 10mm is used the people do get seriously injured
What a story! Glad he and his dad didn’t get harmed. Quick thinking and intuition from Garrett saved them. Kudos.
“Let’s do this”. That’s s great mindset to be in. His timing was perfect. Had it caught him off guard he might have hesitated or random fired. I can’t imagine. Meanwhile…proud dad.
Fantastic interview Chuke 👍
That was awesome, Chuke! What a great dude Garrett is. Loved reading the comment from his dad too.
Love your channel! The fact that you got an actual interview with Mr. Kalkowski and managed to get answers to all of the questions I had about his encounter is a great bonus.
Awesome interview 👍
That was a super interview Chuke. Great stuff. Keep them coming. You're number one.
Great Interview, Chuke! And Garrett, amazing job under pressure. Kudos to you for defending your life and your father’s.
CHUKE I HAVE A GLOCK 20 GEN 4. I use Underwood 200 grain. NO JAMS EVER I bought 220 grain Underwood that would keyhole on paper at 20 yards. Then I bought a six inch KKM barrel that never keyholes.
Awesome interview… thanks buddy…
I really like how you interviewed this young man Chuke. Another great video.
What a great interview and personal story. I think it needs to be mentioned that the bear in this incident was not very big. I only say that because this went very well for them and I think her small size played a role in her quick death.
What a experience! I’ve got several hundred rounds of the HSM bear load. I’ve not shot too many of them thru my G20 & G40 since there lead and not coated. I shoot the HSM mostly thru my 10mm carbine. What a father son experience,thanks Garrett for sharing your story!
Thank you for this
Very good interview! Glad all turned out well. Focus here on pistols, but I wonder if his dad is going to get a rifle that works when it's needed?
Great interview - nice job young man!
Nice to see a young American man with obvious amounts of testosterone, deep, confident voice, a functioning brain that can articulate a thought...courage under fire...on and on...nice job.
@@cuttheknot4781 that comes off a little zesty . 🌈
@@DasNukemA lotta zesty actually 🤔
@@anonymousf454
Mildly zessty??
@@DasNukem
largely zesty?
@@Butch-vo1jn Fabulously Zesty baybee 🕺 🔥 🕺 🌶 😁
I just knew if you kept covering these eventually someone would call in for an interview. Well done. Keep this up.
I bought a Glock 20 in 1993 with the stock barrel or the Lone Wolf 9" barrel it will shoot any 10mm or .40 cal ammo. It is nice to be young like this wood-wise young man with quick accurate reflexes.
A buddy of mine was on a MT fire crew flying outside of LoLo one day. Told me that their bosses told them to not record the # of grizzlies they were counting from the sky. He said there were a ton! Awesome interview, Chuke!
That’s funny because my friend that lives east of Hamilton says there’s no grizzly’s in the area that he’s aware of.
@@KalifornistanRefugee I have no idea what mileage from Lolo they were. Who knows.
Good job surviving this! For anyone interested, the full power loads are what gives the glock 20 trouble. The lower power stuff works good. Hsm is considered weak compared to buffalo bore but it will be more reliable. The most important thing is reliability as this guy knows first hand. I know this country well, and this area has the highest concentration of grizz anywhere I've seen in the lower 48 especially June to August up above the tree line where the moths are.
Great job Chuke, this is the interview we all wanted to see!!! The fact he unloaded 15 on her point blank and she was still alive is scary, reminds me of the one in Idaho where they ended up with about 30 rounds between two hunters (one carrying 45 and one caring 10mm) My big takeaway is having multiple armed hunters greatly increases your odds of survival, and HSM Bear Load is good enough.
Great interview Chuke, riveting story and glad the hunters didn't get hurt.
Hey guys, great interview! Great job, Garrett!
GREAT INTERVIEW CHUKE!!!!
I Agree ☝️
Great interview! Glad to hear nobody was hurt
Great interview chuke and also the young man very intelligent and knowledgeable
Great interview chuke!!! Garrett seems like a great young man and very knowledgeable about his environment and hunting in his environment. Go Garrett!!!!
This is a really great interview and you both did really well. This is by far the most informative coverage of this attack I've seen and better than any on other attacks I've seen. This sort of content is what provides value and can help folks better understand what a bear attack is all about and just how it is likely to play out, which helps everyone prepare as best they can. Good job!
That was a great interview. One question that could have been asked is what could they have done to prevent the attack in the first place? I think situational awareness is key to prevent this from happening when you are hunting in known grizzly country. He never mentioned seeing any bear sign but I wonder if there were tracks or fresh scat. That would be helpful information for anyone out in the woods.
Wow! Fascinating interview. Best post yet. On another note, I can't for the life of me, understand how NOT having a round in the chamber would even be considered. In LE, we ALWAYS had our side arms in that condition. Whether a 1911 or Glock it didn't matter. The guns are safe if your using good trigger discipline. In bear country? NOT even a question.
One thing I'd like to see, is a bullet comparison between the HSM, Buffalo Bore. (Maybe you already have and I don't know about it.) Anyway, I wish we could get these interview after every incident. Great work.
Great interview. Glad he is able to share it with us.
Sometimes, in those situations, time seems to slow down in the moment.
this was a great video thank you for bringing this to us. would love to see more interviews like this!
keep up the great work. long live the 10MM
Good video! I read about this story of I'm not mistaken. Glad to hear the son actually talk about it.
I want Garret on my team.
Thanks Chuke!
Chuke the prophet,,,exactly down to the ammo what you have been preaching to us mere mortals. One of your best vids………
Outstanding interview/story. I'm glad you and your dad are OK, Garret.
Great young man! Thanks for providing this information
Man that's an awesome story, thanks for sharing!
So glad everyone is ok
Great interview, you are made for this!
Epic interview! Super impressed with this young man. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent interview! Thanks Chuke!
Great video!! Thanks for sharing your story with us Garrett
This is amazing. Thanks for this. So rare to have an actual interview
Great interview. What an articulate young man and great story teller. Everything lined up for he and his dad for a safe outcome.
Very mature young man, envy his access to hunting. Well done. Hate to hear she suffered but...
Wow! Would love to see more interviews like this!!
Good control! 😎👍🏼
This was really good info! Thanks to both of you for doing this!
This was great! Thanks for sharing.
Thank God you were ready and not chewed on. Great interview.
This interview is well done and awesome! Excellent, very useful information.
Great info here. This is exactly why I bought a Gunfighter Kenai chest holster for my Glock 20. Its a heavy duty Kydex holster and the weapon fits snugly w/o any additional retention devices. American Made in Rathdrum Idaho. The other holsters are great quality.
Nice work Chuke...interview with Garrett..
Thank you Garrett for interviewing with Chuke! Very informative.
Our hikes are just for the awe of nature. Hunting experience zip, except for varmints around our farm.
We carry Springfield xdm elite full size and compact with hardcast Underwood 200gr 705+/- ft lbs. Bear spray and camera gear on chest rig, gun in an Aliengear hip holster on strong side.
Would like a low chest/abdomen. cross draw under the camera gear. To me that would be the ideal set up. Always better to be prepared for worst case scenarios, than to say should of, could of, would of...😢
Great video Chuke! That young man has a good head on his shoulders! Got a couple of boxes of that hsm during covid ,all I could find at that time. Gen 4 and kkm barrel. Your videos made me nervous about stock barrel blowing up.
Great interview.
Glad you're safe.
Great interview, it’s amazing hearing stories first hand, thanks. SW. Mt
Great interview!!
Damn she raised her head and looked at them after all that. Tough critters. Glad everyone was okay and great interview.
Super super awesome video interview Chuke !!!! Unreal 💪🤘🙌
Great video thanks chuke!!!!!!!
@@tonyriley5309 thank you!
I concur with all the other comments: Great interview, and thank you for sharing your story, Garrett
Great video and a classy young man.
Great interview and video...
Great interview, what projectiles/ammo did ya use garrett?
Man, I love to hear those chilling bear stories, but I really love to hear that awesome song at the end!
Amazing great interview thanks Chuke.
I'm glad no one got hurt ! Great mind set on that individual. Solid choice Gen 4 . Chuke " did you goto Fred Rohels channel Subartic Alaska ? Take care have a great Thanksgiving " !
Excellent interview with outstanding information. I live near and hike near the area this happened.
Great video Chuke.
This is a fantastic interview. Well done
Good Afternoon 🌞 Everybody. I Hope That Everybody Is Having A Wonderful And Blessed 😇 Friday Afternoon Today. Amen 🙏.
Good information. Keep it up
Meeteetse is 32 miles south of Cody. The Greybull runs through town. Upstream, past the Wood River, is indeed the Pitchfork range. The cane breaks and brush are thick. Big bore handguns are really encouraged for outdoor activities.
7.5 miles of the Greybull runs right through the Pitchfork.
I haven't been there since the 90's, hopefully it hasn't changed much.
Great storytelling!
Great interview, Chuke! 👍
You are my first channel every morning, then the Lake Hood webcam and Brooks Falls webcam. 😊
i miss Alaska, but not so much shoveling snow.
My gen 5 hasn’t malfunctioned as of 1800 rounds. Not to many hardcast though.
Chuke: Great interview!
Good to know and thank you!
Thanks
Nice job Garrett!👍
Great interview
Awesome interview. Useful info.
Congratulations