C8 Corvette OIL CATCH CAN install. THIS is why you NEED one!
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Was looking at this catch can a couple of weeks ago and had issue getting the order to go through. I finally saw your video when it hit and ordered it and it's on its way, minus the 10% discount. I came back to your channel to see if you had a discount code but didn't see it so I went ahead and clicked to finalize the payment. Oh well, win some and loose some. Can't wait to get it as I've always ran cans on my Camaro's. Kinda wish that hose with the check valve was shorter as not to run forward and then back to the can to connect. Being that the made this setup specifically for the C8, I wonder why such a long hose for such a short distance?
That one I'm not sure of, it could be a little shorter but with the check valve it kind of stiffens up the hose so it may have to be longer to achieve a certain bend?
Hi, thanks to your video, I purchased a UPR catch can. Its been installed for slightly less than a week (around 150 miles). Today I checked the can, and it has collected about a teaspoon of oil inside the can. So I "think" the can is working. Reason why I said "think"...I also pulled the hoses off near the can to see if there is evidence of oil...on the inlet to the can (the hose that connects to the PVC line towards the front of the engine) - that appears bone dry. On the outlet from the can (hose that connects to the intake), that appears slightly moist with oil. I also bought the option for a valve as well on that hose. I would have thought the evidence of oil would be the opposite of what I experienced. Have you had the chance to check your catch can? And if so, do the hoses appear moist with oil similar to what mine shows???
Do you recommend ordering with Check Valve option? Thanks
You have done it again, finally solutions that complete the objective without requiring major mods or endless work - nice!!!
I appreciate it my friend!
I was wondering when a company would make these. I will definitely install one.
Thanks for the update!!
Any time! 👍👍
Good day Justin; thank you for the informative vlog, and to add, always nice to see your amazing looking Corvettes; take care.
Thank you! It's my pleasure to show these amazing looking machines on the vlog as often as possible!
More info for me the better my C8 will be. Glad you think out side the box.
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
Great Vlog Justin. I ordered the ZUS. With 3 vehicles it will likely come in handy. Thank you.
Thank you! Good choice with the ZUS stuff. It's been a life saver already for me!
I just installed THE UPR catch can on my C8. Easy, easy easy... Took me about 8 minutes and I was done. My C8 has no issues since the install. All need to do this sooner than later. Protect your engine...
Definitely! One of the best designed cans I've seen!
Nice unit and easy. Can't ask for more.
My thoughts exactly!
Great help. Thanks!!!
You're welcome!
Love your sharing, sir. Keep it coming, baby!
Thanks, will do!
BTW... you need to install the mesh insert behind the front inlets. First thing I did, got mine from customcargrills took 20 -30 mins to install prevents your AC radiator from getting banged up from rocks.
Is that the one that installs with zip ties?
I was waiting for these to come out. I have a Catch can on all my vehicles.
Wise man!
@@HorsePowerObsessed Ordered. Thanks for the heads up on these.
Awesome! I just got a discount code from Steve over at UPR, hopefully it's not too late! You can save 10% with code HPO10
Great Job with the install , but I would do just one extra thing . The bolt that is fastening to the engine bay frame and then to the base anchor to the Catch Can itself , that bolt should get a little loctite , blue color will due , orange color to be sure . You don't want vibration loosening your bolt and the catch can falling into the engine bay while driving . The Vette is looking great !
Keep us posted on how well it works, I have a C8!
Will do! So far it's been like it isn't even there! The best kind of longevity mod!
Very cool...,.
Thanks!
I've had my car now for 4 months and only have 286 miles on it. Opened up the can and there was about quarter of a teaspoon, very little but did have some residue in there. Must work, not sure what Chevy would say if there was an engine issue.
Wow, that was easy. Thx
You're very welcome!
I’ve always ran catch cans and just dumped my UPR can this am with about 3k on it and got just shy of 3oz of black oil that would have been blown back into the intake. An ounce of prevention can be a pound of cure!
Absolutely agree!
Just curious if this is needed to help with longer engine life why didn't GM put one in? What is the purpose of the check valve option? This product looks very high quality though. Nice work. I might end up getting one after doing a little more research...
Same reason they didn't put a higher flowing filter or exhaust on the car. EPA standards and extra cost.
Thanks for the information.
If one was not going to drive their car for approximately 2 months due to freezing temperatures, would emptying the can prior to that prevent any issues ? Once the can is empty it will stay empty until the car is operated correct ?
I know that sounds like a stupid question but better safe than sorry.
That's correct. If there's nothing in the can there's nothing to freeze. It only fills up with driving.
Not sure you’d need a one way check valve. But I guess it couldn’t hurt. Can you put a AOS on a dry sump?
It has been known to happen from time to time with the car sucking unmetered air back through the PCV system so to prevent that from even being a possibility a check valve is put in. Probably not 100% necessary, but why not have that extra bit of peace of mind?
Catch cans are the best first thing I do to all my cars and trucks
Not a bad first thing to do!
I totally agree that a catch can is required on a DI engine as I have one on my C7 and plan on purchasing one for my C8 which I take delivery of tomorrow morning (totally stoked). However a price of 250 USD is overpriced (IMO). The one I purchased for my C7 was 120 (Canadian) and of equal or better quality. Needless to say I will be purchasing from another supplier. In closing just to let you know that was an excellent video on the install. Professional quality as always.
Thank you! I appreciate that my friend.
Who makes the catch can you purchased.
@Brian Roadnight what color is your car? Tell us about it!
Agreed!!!
Ceramic Matrix Grey Z51 2 LT , Mag Suspension, Front Lift, GT2 Seats (two tone), High Wing Spoiler was ordered in Carbon flash and then originally back ordered then they were cancelled and removed from all builds after a certain date due to no availability from the supplier this according to the Dealer so looks like aftermarket is my only option. However I am so stoked that this is a non issue right now.
This is a useful tool for my future nissan z car which there is a new one coming soon but there is a rumor that it might get the twinturbo v6 engine from the infiniti q60 red sport which also comes with gasoline direct fuel injection.
I used to have a 370z Nismo so I'm super pumped to see what they do with the next Z car!
@@HorsePowerObsessed yea i can't wait either, nissan uploaded a teaser video showing the "z proto" with a manual transmission and its engine revving
That's awesome! Should be a cool car!
Can you do follow up video in 2-3 weeks with normal driving to show much oil is in that can?
It's already in the works!
Really enjoyed your install ... I have always wanted to put a catch can in my vehicle. Justin you never showed us the interior of the can....does it use some kind of “media” to prevent blow bye of the oil vapour within the catch can ??? Thanks again .. look forward to an update after 500 miles.
Cheers
Wow, I can't believe I forgot to unscrew it on camera lol. I did take a look and it has media inside to stop oil from blowing back up through the hoses. I'll show it in the next video I make when I check it after a few hundred miles.
@@HorsePowerObsessed Here's a link to our video . I show the internals at 4:10 ua-cam.com/video/lO2C69-jJxg/v-deo.html . You'll see the center tube where the coalescing of the vapor takes place. Inside this tube are 3 stages of separation taking place, then the bottom drip edge. The discs and media dampen the air coming out of the can to keep up to 95% of the impurities contained.
UPR takes great pride in constantly working to make our kits the best available. The goal with this kit was to make it easy to install and remove or service, and make sure it is effective. This is a NO DRILL installation with great quality components. Are there some that are less expensive? Yes, but then you could have just gotten a less expensive Camaro right? lol. Thanks again for questions and interest.
Excellent!
Can we install the catch can for a C8 Convertible, if so how, thank you.
Hi, just installed mine very nice product. but do you hear the hose goes into the intake manifold (after the check valve) very loud suction noise from the manifold inlet area, can you try to listen to it see you hear that suction noise and is that normal??
I didn’t notice anything out of the normal… 🤔
Good for the older WV and BMW cars. The LT engine has none of these issues. If your worried spray crc intake cleaner into the throttle body while someone reving the engine to 2500. The LT1 or 4 has no issues with the bottom valves getting coked up.
What impact does this have on the warranty ? Will GM void anything associated with engine due to this, such as AFM issues?
No. This is no different than an air intake/filter but if you want to be extra cautious just remove it for warranty claims. Easy install means easy removal.
got my oil UPR can today. but my car is in PPF and ceramic coat shop now for a week.
Excellent! You must be insanely excited!
I also ordered the same Catch can as you. My one way check valve sounds like it has a loose ball bearing rolling around in it. Is that normal? Does yours sound like that too?
Yes sir! All good.
I have a singular catch can on my Ford Eco-Boost engine. And I empty it ever 3rd tank of gas. I get about 6 ozs to 8 ozs. of fluid each tme. I'm wondering if you have emptied your yet and ifs how much fluid did you get. You will be suprized of the the smelly crap that it catches.
Greg
Agreed! I did empty it in a newer video. Captures quite a bit of nastiness!
Justin, what you say is good it's sounds right but if they're that good why doesn't the factory put them on to begin with?
There is three big reasons. One is cost, two is maintenance, and three is EPA. It's the same reason the cars don't come with a higher flowing air filter or a higher flowing exhaust.
How often do you have to clean the catch can and can this be installed on a convertible C8?
I check it every 2k miles. This should be able to be installed on the convertible. Might be a little more difficult because of the engine cover, though.
Any idea why UPR decided to use a long line from the back of the engine, direct the line forward, and then loop it back to the can? It seems like they could have used a convenient short line from the back of the engine straight to the can.
I don't know exactly but I think it has something to do with the one way check valve.
Short hoses with tight turns tend to want to kink. Using a slightly longer hose with a gentle bend keeps it from kinking and keeps the airflow moving uninterrupted.
Does this affect the warranty at all? I heard GM will void it if it has a catch can? Thnx
No. If you're worried about it, just take it off before you go in to be 100% safe.
I hope you put one of those on your Colorado also. I did on mine.
We`re supposed to use Seafoam, or equivalent at the throttle body. Walmart sells a special can of Seafoam just for this purpose, with a U type spray tube connector. I sprayed mine with 2 cans while revving the engine at 2K RPM of Seafoam at 30K miles, but im hearing we`re supposed to spray it at every 10K miles, and its best to do it in the Fall, or Winter season because those engine bays get SUPER HOT.
You can check out Scotty Kilmers channel in UA-cam,,,,,,a guy did his D.I. car, and he shows a before and after video of his valves after spraying with Seafoam.
If you have a D.I. engine, its a must, or you`ll have to have a valve job, probably after 100K miles
Did you install a catch can on your Colorado? Was it difficult?
@@HorsePowerObsessed ,,,,,Yeah, about a year after i bought it.
At first, i installed mine about 5 inches to the left of the radiator up front, but i didnt like it there, so i moved it to the back using my AC line bracket that run along the back firewall. It wasnt really that hard,,,,it was just trying to figure the best place to put it,,,,Lol !
It does catch some oil though, maybe about 20 drops per oil change
Which one did you get?
@@HorsePowerObsessed ....Moroso .,,,,It screws off at the bottom like your C8 catch can, but mine is shorter
I'll check it out! Thanks buddy!
My friend has a car that enjoys oil everywhere.
Lol 🤣 🤣
Wasn’t looking for an oil catch can until I saw your video. I have never heard up this company either and wouldn’t have found them without your video. Decided I would go ahead and order one. I went to put in the coupon code and it doesn’t look like it’s still a valid code? Did they hook you up with a new one?
Nice! I'm glad I could help out. I think they are done extending the coupon unfortunately. 😢
Can you do catch can for the Colorado?
Apparently you can, I'm going to look into it for sure!
Do you add more oil after you Install the valve?
No you don't.
Coupon code is not working for me
Did your Z06 have a catch can? I can’t remember now...
No, I didn't keep it long enough lol
Hey Justin, so 9 months later how do you feel about this catch can? Do you find much in the can each time you empty it? Any problem from your dealership about warranty violations?
I'm still loving it. It catches probably 3 to 6 oz of oil every 3 to 5000 miles. No problems at all for warranty.
@@HorsePowerObsessed Awesome, I will place my order today. Enjoy your weekend and thanks for the great videos.
Does your have the "pro series check valve"? It appears be an option on the order page.
Yes it does. That's just to avoid any kind of possible contamination from the catch can pulling unmetered air in
@@HorsePowerObsessed I will add it to the order then.😁
looks great ! Will it impact the warranty?
Thank you! No it will not. 👍
This Catch Can kit is designed to be removed just as easily as it was installed. If your dealer is uptight about any aftermarket modifications, just save your original PCV tube and reinstall it before service. Thanks!
That's exactly right! Easy install easy removal!
does anyone hear that suction noise??
Will GM say that this voids any kind of warranty
No. If you were that worried, you could just take it off before a trip to the dealership, though. Very VERY easy install.
Yeah I would figure out what to do that if there was a question about it but I guess I'll call the manufacturer Of the catch can to see what they say
Bro this made my week!!!!!
Glad to hear it! 😁👍
@@HorsePowerObsessed Im gonna pick one up for sure. This is really bad. I have all these mods and no c8!! Seriously, I love your channel ❤
Thanks, man! Use code HPO10 to save yourself 10% off!
Painted my engine cover, didn't like the color of the commercial one. I used VHT 550° primer and Dupli-Color MetalCast "Red Anodized" (500°), about 4 light coats. This color is a perfect match to the valve colors. Not close, PERFECT! That commercial cover is un-attractive, IMO, and the black metal covers do not look as good as the polished stainless pieces...and the cost was under $40...
You can make your own for way less than 250 though.
Not one that looks this good or installs this easily, unfortunately.
Justin, great video, but why are you setting those items on your paint, please lay a towel down, we don't want to blemish that hot looking paint, Please.
Thank you. Trust me usually I would not do this but with how much xpel is on this car it literally can't be hurt by something like that.
@@HorsePowerObsessed Ok, just looking out for you, I just ordered my red mist 21 or 22.
I appreciate it, my friend! XPEL helps take the worry out of everyday driving but it takes a little while to get used to it. Congrats on your car, you're going to love it!
If a catch can is so important why didn’t it come from Bowling Green with the C8? Do these usually come out of a JC Whitney Catalog?
lol I haven't seen a JC whitney catalog in years, man. These are actually functional but just like cold air intakes and better flowing air filters, they won't make it that way in the factory due to EPA restrictions, etc.
I really think the issues with putting these on as OEM is cost and the maintenance requirement. Telling owners they need to pay to empty and dispose of the contents every couple of thousand miles won't fly in an era of extended service intervals. And Mrs Wilbur next door is not going to empty the Catch can herself.
If it cost GM just $10 ea. $10 is still a major expense when factored into 30,000 cars every year, with the cost not just of the $10 can but also the labor to install it. Manufacturers squeeze suppliers to get 10 cents out of the cost of a switch or electrical connector. $10 is a lot of money.
That too! Cost and maintenance!
HorsePower Obsessed not convinced!
There's plenty of research out there showing why you need one so do yourself a favor and google search it. I touched on most of the reasons you'd want this can in this video here but there's a lot of info out there for this topic. I'd never recommend blindly listening to one guy on the internet but with all of the info on this topic out there suggesting you should have one of these things I think it's pretty apparent we need it.
The C8 has built in Catch Can
It may, but it isn't doing a great job of catching oil.
Guys
I believe that there is an air/oil separator already on this motor.
Located under intake manifold.
You really don't need it.
Based on the amount of oil I've caught, you do need it.
Not needed on the lt1 or 4. All cars have a little blow by. Don't overfill your oil. The zo6 takes 9.8 quarts. I put 9.5 and have no blow by and if it does happen it gets burnt off. This is a complete waste of money.
Warranty voided! Am I correct?
You are not. Very easy to remove if the time ever came.
@@HorsePowerObsessed True dat!
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You have a discount code for UPR ?
Tell you what, For all HPO followers, enter HPO10 in the coupon code at check out and get 10% off the C8 catch can kit until October 31st 2020!
Nice! Thank you, Steve! 👍👍
@@HorsePowerObsessed Thank YOU!
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You rock!! Ordering mine now
PVC or PCV?
PCV.
PCV - Positive Crankcase Ventilation
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now i know all car engineers like all of them all stooped like MB, PORSCHE,AUDI,CRYSLER EVEN ROLLS ROYS NO ONE FIGURE THAT THEY NEED INSTALL SIMPLE OIL CATCH CANS LOL OMG!!!
Great job on the video! Thank you! Of course, if you need anything from us at UPR just go to UPRproducts.com or give us a call! You can also message me directly on Instagram @thecatchcanman . Thanks again!
Thank you! I'm definitely impressed with the product! Keep up the good work!
You Guess?
I mean, it's pretty obvious but I didn't know for sure until the 2nd video showed it was still catching oil.
Read in another forum that GM voided a warranty claim due to installation of a catch can. Can GM do that? Here is the link to the other forum.
www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f19/gm-voids-warranty-because-catch-can-249809/
Yes they CAN do that but the problem is they have to PROVE that the catch can caused the issue and it's very unlikely that it did so they wouldn't be able to prevent warranty work from being done. Not just that, but that situation was a one off style where you'll never see that again most likely. Because of how easy this can be installed, uninstalling it for warranty work (engine related) would be recommended just to avoid issues.
I took my Colorado in a GM dealer with the catch can on,,,and they said nothing. Mine`s in plain sight.
That's been my experience as well. It really can't cause any issues.
@@HorsePowerObsessed you are 100% correct with that ive been there and delt with it lol
Yes sir!
How many horsepower does it add? Lol
100 extra horsepower! 🤣
tree fiddy
@@TroutButter lmao 🤣
Be careful not to scratch the paint by putting items on the car. Yikes.
That's what my XPEL is for 😁👍
Sales of catch cans must have slowed down.
No sir. Just the first one available for the C8! 👍👍
You don't need one. Chevy has addressed this many times. Yes, catch cans catch some oil. So what? There isn't a single documented case of the LT2 motor having valve issues due to carbon building from PCV vapors. The fact that a catch can catches oil, doesn't prove anything.
The catch can, due to how it works, INCREASES the amount of oil residue coming from the crank case vent. It allows the hot air to slow down, cool, and that causes some small amount of oil to condensate and settle out and collect over time in the can. Otherwise, the heat and velocity of the PCV air would just get sucked into the motor and burned, with no ill effects.
This motor has been out 4 years now. Go and search and see if you can find any cases of valve damage from carbon build up. It doesn't exist. The only people claiming that it *could* cause damage, are the people trying to sell you catch cans.
This is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Show me an LT2 with over 100k miles on it that would have excess carbon build up. Yes, it will and can happen. For the price of a catch can, why risk it?
@@HorsePowerObsessed You say that, but the data says you are wrong. As do the engineers at Corvette. The LT2 is a 4 year old platform, no issues yet. Go to the prior gen that was out many years longer, still no credible reports of this issue. Consider that the Ron Fellows race school, doesn't run catch cans on their cars and I would argue that those are the hardest run Corvettes on the planet. Nothing but hard driving and high RPM, which is what folks claims exacerbates this "issue"...
And yet, all these years, no valve problems from excessive carbon buildup related to the PCV system. This is one of those issues where the internet took something that might have happened on a 2011 Audi, and now its grown and taken on a mythical life of its own and "every GDI has to have this product or your motor will fail" and it's just not true. The people wanting to sell these things claim it(and those they sponsor), and the people who paid for them of course want to justify it...
But it's not. GM has millions of GDI fleet miles out there with over 100k miles and if it was a widespread problem, we would know about it. Right now, all we have are some folks telling us it could or will happen... but in all these years? Nothing. The craziest part is that a small percentage of DCT's fail, but most people will tell you that it's not that common, that most owners are fine... But when it comes to catch cans and there are ZERO failures, that means you WILL have a problem if you don't buy and install this product that the people who made your car says it doesn't need. lol
The Corvette engineers claim it's not a problem, that they designed the motor to accommodate this. If you think they are lying and you don't trust them, why would you buy a car from someone you don't trust?
I think the EPA has way too much to say about it for GM to be honest about it. Their hands are tied. Again, for the price of a catch can, why risk it? That's ultimately what it boils down to. Doesn't matter who is lying and who is telling the truth. I'll spend the 300 bucks and worst case it wasn't needed but with how much oil it catches, it tells me it is something most should consider. If you don't want to believe it or err on the side of caution then don't but I, and many others will continue to do so for the low cost and peace of mind.
@@HorsePowerObsessed Fair enough, but part of why it catches oil, is that the way it works, causes oil to condensate more than it otherwise would. I have just searched and searched and cannot find a single occurrence of it being a problem. And you know how the internet is, a couple dozen people have DCT failures, out of 30k cars, and suddenly "all the DCTs are failing, steer clear!"...
The fact that we can't find ANY cases of verified problems... Tells me it's one of those things that the internet keeps repeating, even though its never really presented itself as a problem. I have a catch can sitting here, but after spending a good bit of time trying to find something, anything, concerning actual valve issues from oily air from the PCV, I came up with exactly nothing...
The Corvette engineers did say that they built a catch can system into the motor. And they said that when you leave the system intact, the oil that is aerosolized in the hot crank case air, doesn't slow and cool enough to condensate and form oil droplets... When it goes into a catch can, it does... So it sounds like the catch can is what creates most of the "problem" that it then claims to solve... 🙂
@SquireSCA we can agree to disagree. All the evidence I’ve seen tells me this engine definitely needs a catch can but if you want to believe the people who have their hands tied by the EPA go right ahead. As I said above, even if it’s not needed, for $300 it’s worth it for peace of mind.