a Detailer a SeaRay. Black Oxidized Gelcoat. DWP849X and 3m's Heavy Cut compound.
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Foam pad, heavy cut compound, black gelcoat and a free lunch.
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Anyone can hit a rock with a hammer; getting the rock to look like something that belongs in museums and books... Takes a love of hitting rocks with a purpose and not just the right tools/products.
I use a DeWalt DWP849X
If I'm going for perfection in gelcoat, I don't use a ceramic (unless a very new boat) I prefer the ease, cost and reliability of Fire Glaze by RMP. Make sure you get all the oxidation out of the gelcoat, get a great finish, clean and strip the surface and then apply Fire Glaze.
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There's a "marine" version but it has the same main ingredient as Fire Glaze, just a different lubricant/carrier solution made to be environment friendly. I find it dries rather fast and as I'm in a hot climate, I use Fire Glaze instead of Restructure Marine Polish. I like their Mirasol spray for all the interior furnishings as well.
For a demo on how I apply this stuff:
• Boat wax, kind of. Fir...
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3M Quick Connect adapter (mfg # 05752) to use with the double-sided compounding pad (3M mfg #05753) or the double-sided polishing pad (3M mfg #05754)
Foam compounding pads 3M (05737-discontinued but awesome)
or (05723-new version 😑)
3M Super-Duty (05954)
3M Perfect It Heavy Cutting Compound (36102)
Perfect-it ex ac compounds by 3M (36060)
Meguiar’s (owned by 3M) Flagship Premium Wax (M6332) Pro Polish by Shurehold or 3M's liquid wax with scotchguard.
I receive no payment for listing these items. I list them because you guys ask and I just thought I would save some time.
Wear protective gear, this stuff can cause cancer and kill you.
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Thanks for your time and support.
Lee
This is how you should buff a boat!! Outstanding job!
Glad you approve. 😊👍🏼
Thank you for the video. It was nice to watch a Professional at work.
I'm going to try it on a Motorhome and I'm going to use 3M Heavy Cut with a Wool Pad, keeping in mind that this will be my first time.
I hope I can figure out what you are watching for in the swirl, right away.
It's a big Motorhome, I would hate to have to go over it twice.
Hi. Thanks.
On your 1st attempt, you'll get frustrated possibly, take a pause, grab a beer and watch another video. It's all there. I mostly do boats but RV's are usually gelcoated so it all works the same.
I show everything but that little trick, don't worry about that step. It's for going from a 9, to a 10. Most people love a 6 I find.
Lee
Another great teaching opportunity for me to learn some more. I'm doing a 1995 FourWinns 245 cruiser and I must say following your videos has been great for the boat looks great 👍 Taking the boat back to the owner and collect 😀 1200 for what looks like a brand new boat 🚢 again thanks a bunch you are the best man. I did my Chris Craft last year following Drake's detail jobs and it took me almost all summer and after using your technique I have redone it in half the time . Again thank you 😊
Let Drake know! Lol
I'm honored and proud of you for taking a leap of faith. I'm not selling anything and don't ask people for hand-outs. Him on the other hand..
Never trust a salesman..
Thanks man.
Lee
I have been doing boats for 26 years and you are one of best I have seen. I don't get most swirls out because most customers don't won't to pay for the time to get out swirls. I don't do many boats anymore because my legs gave out. To many detailers charge to little today. Can't make the money I used to make. I have customers asking if I will work for a hundred a day, I look at them like your crazy.
I'm honored to read this, thank you.
Customers... Love most of them, tolerate some of them and I absolutely despise the rest. 😊 (not really, like 2 a year piss me off)
I try to eliminate swirls whenever I can so nobody feels they have the right to ask me for a discount.
$100 a day is almost enough to get me to look at someone else working on a boat. Almost Lol
Damn I get at least $100Ft and have been detailing yachts for 24 years.
We charge up to $120 a foot if, there's a customer who wants "the best". It's very rare. I'd rather work on giving 9/10 work to people who want to pay for 6/10 work. It builds a business.
I'm happy to hear you are doing well though.
I love your style and attitude
Well, thank you.
I've been following along all your videos and taking notes. You have responded to everything I have asked so far, and the knowledge you freely share is amazing! I just started a test area on my 1995 Key West 1500. I removed all the decals and plan to put new ones on once the boat is nice and shiny. There was a waterline "stripe" decal across bottom of the length of the boat. When I carefully removed it with a heat gun (like your videos show) I was excited to see what looked like the original boat color that I hope I can get back to. It was lighter, and shinier than anything else on the hull, but was raised slightly higher (or maybe lower?) than everything else. I couldn't see it so much as feel it with my fingertips. I started with Heavy Cut on a wool pad nice and easy like you say and built up to a comfortable, controllable speed. After some time, I got the area to level out, meaning if I closed my eyes and ran my fingers across it I could not feel the line. However, the color variation did not go away. It has diminished considerably, but I can still visibly see the lighter shade of line across the darkened hull. So my question is this... Do I simply need to keep going? Is it time to move down to Super Duty to cut through this area? Or is this just a permanent relic of a 30-year-old hull that wasn't taken care of properly? Thanks so much for your time and all you do on this channel!
It'll go away more and more with each buffing if you don't mind. If you really want to get it, block sanding can take care of it but Super Duty can also.
I'm happy to see someone giving it a go. Keep working. Your 1st time buffing shouldn't be perfect, that's my job and I still mess up sometimes. Just get comfortable and every season, you'll be better and better.
My best!
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Wow - amazing!!! Great work
That was a fun day, thanks
IS this 180 or 200mm wool pad ? :) Thanks for your videos
You're welcome, I don't recall but the part numbers are in the description. Enjoy reading all that.
Lee
Love your subliminal message at 13:00 min or so
Crap, now I have to watch this again? I missed it. Sorry you had to eat time watching it that long. 🤣
How's the CeeVee coming?
Amazing work!
Thank you very much. Thanks for watching!
Hey mate, thanks for making this video another awesome episode. I've been putting into practice what you've said to me in another post. I haven't achieved the wet paint look yet but definitely achieving a better gloss and shine on my boat.
That makes me happy. It's not easy to learn from a video, I know but if you've gotten something, I'm honored.
Practice makes perfect. You'll have a long relationship with your boat I hope, so you'll have plenty of time to get it right.
If you're ever interested, I teach this in-person and in less than 2-3 days, you'll be a pro at gelcoat.
I'll keep grinding/posting as long as people watch'em.
Cheers!
@@Local_Boydidgood
If i was living near you I would be more than happy to take the course from you to really learn this skill. But I live in Perth, Western Australia on the other side of the world.
Mate, I'll make the trip worth it. Split the cost of my flight to you, my passport is brand new!
I hear ya. I'll keep doing these, you keep practicing and together, we'll get you there.
Do you use a 3m quick connector to your pad
Depends on what buffer I use (I have 2 at all times. Unnecessary tool, the quick connect. It makes no difference in these results, which nut I use on the spindle.
Use what's available and easy. I don't save time with the quick connect. I prefer just a coarse-thread 5/8" nut. It'll never fail you and works with many pad manufacturers wheels as opposed to just 3M pads which suck this year.
Great vid thanks!
Gracias Marty!
How mow should be charge for a job like that
I mean, can anyone in my area do this? No, so I can charge more than what's available locally. If however I left swirls, I'd charge the going rate. (call around to find this)
Somewhere between $40-80, up to $120 a foot, depends on the finished job. This guy tipped an additional $1,000.
Your new pay rate becomes effective when you do.
What I charge is only relevant to my local boats. I'd charge more in Seattle, more in CA and way more in France or the Mediterranean because of the market and lack of quality workers for this kind of job.
Hope that helps.
Lee
Hey Lee, I live in the Orlando Florida area and I purchased a 1993 Bimini Skier (Mastercraft knockoff) about 3-4 months ago. It needed a transmission, so I got a deal. The gel coat was heavily oxidated so I watched your videos and went to work. I spent a day buffing and used 3m heavy cut. 1st side looked great and the second side l must have been tired. Lol. I then put it in the shop for the transmission and it was there over 3 months waiting for parts, mostly sitting outside and some of the oxidation returned. I will buff again using 3m Heavy Cut, but what do you recommend to seal it and protect from the elements? I noticed in one of your comments you like Fire Glaze and you sell it. Please let me know your recommendations and thank you so much for your video training. It has been invaluable. I would love to send you before and after photos when I get finished if you would like and if you can provide me your email address. Thanks again!!!
Hi Carey,
When using heavy cut, you should be following with Perfect-it and then washing the boat to inspect it in bright light. Make sure there's no oxidation left. Then use either Flagship by Meguiar's, 3M's liquid wax with scotchguard or Pro Polish by Shurehold.
Fire glaze is insane but requires all the oxidation to be removed first and a very clean surface to bond to. If you're dealing with an older boat and kind of new at this, I don't recommend it.
Older boats tend to be dry and also have larger pores in their gelcoat. If you apply a light coat, it won't last because it needs more of the oils a boat wax has.
Compounds, even the 3M products have oils in them and they can hide the true finish. Only after you have inspected the surface well should you apply your sealer. Then re-apply it at 1 month and then after another 3 months and then after another 5 months..
The older the boat, the more neglected it was, the shorter the interval between waxing.
Nothing will last forever and even less time on an older boat sadly.
My email is on my youtube "about me" it won't go directly to spam as opposed to most of the emails I've received from putting it up here in the comments section.
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@@Local_Boydidgood Thank you, Lee. I really appreciate your help! Working on it now with the perfect-it.
Fingers crossed. I hope you see the results you expect. There's usually nothing wrong with giving "it" another 30 seconds.
I'll be here to answer questions if I can.
Thanks,
@@Local_Boydidgood for the 2nd step what perfect it are you talking abt I see a lot of perfect it products?
Number 1 Perfect-it ex ac. Good question. 3M confuses people with the names.
So that’s the tool used to spur the pad. I went to the hardware and asked for a “this guy,” tool. He didn’t have it.
Almost anything will work.
Amazon.com: CANOPUS Polishing Pad Cleaner, Spur Tool for Revitalizing Polisher Compound Pads, Buffing Pads and Bonnets, Buffing Pad Cleaner, Bonnet Cleaning Tool, Buffing Spur Tool: Automotive
www.amazon.com/Polishing-Revitalizing-Polisher-Compound-Canopus/dp/B073HKBHX8/ref=asc_df_B073HKBHX8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312142020868&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9192982668259564678&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1027744&hvtargid=pla-568805584933&psc=1
Try paint stick from home Depot, doesn't turn your pad black and are free, doing boats for long time
Oh, to Spur out the pads? I've used just about everything out there. Once you've used your Spur enough to make is shiny, the black isn't an issue. Mine is over 10 years old so it doesn't blacken up my pads but you're right, a wood stick works just fine. Keeping the dog from playing with it however...
Thanks!
Local boydidgood, in your opinion, what is the best sealing wax product for use after compounding?
For what boat, in what environment, with what owner maintenance program? There are lots of boats, many possibilities for each, they're all different.
I use flagship, 3m's liquid wax and shurhold's propolish fairly regularly.
The best is Re-structure marine polish but nobody wants to learn how to use it so I don't talk about it, incase anyone tries it and fails. I don't need them crying about it on the forums when they screw up.
I sell it, use it and love it but I show people in my videos, what they can access locally or on Amazon easily. These products work for about a year with typical maintenance and much longer with a dedicated thought to cleanliness applied.
Fire Glaze plus is my favorite sealant. I sell it for $20 a bottle. Others sell it for $30-35. I cover my costs and help the manufacturer (neat guy) at that price. I get paid for my work, not referring stuff.
The steps are simple: compound, clean, apply and enjoy.
I know what "youtuber" you're specifically talking about. He is why I'm here learning your ways to fix his ways. Damn Adderall and coke.
Lol. I appreciate the shift. I hope I can save you some time and money in the end.. I'll never try to sell you stuff if nothing else. Enjoy, there's about 200 vids. If longer than 6 minutes, I'm trying to teach something. If shorter, just showing off.
@@Local_Boydidgood I've decided to add exterior detailing to my rv repair business and with that have gained traction with boats. I spent a lot of money on product that I'm thinking I didn't need. I pick up on things well so hopefully this works out. I am doing a fifth wheel that is grey with black alumninum facia on the slide edges, can't seem to get it to clean up properly. I did the wool pad on 1 but seemed to dilute the color. Any suggestions? Also don't look like you use polish, so at the end of the day it is possible to buff with a wool and not have hazing or swirl marks?
Aluminum will most likely be painted with an automotive paint and the paint will be thin. Be careful there. Perhaps use a cleaner wax and a random orbital. Go for a gloss/sheen but new might be out of the realm of possibility.
I can compound with heavy cut to a swirl-free finish but I've been doing this a long time. If heavy cut left swirls, follow with Perfect-it and yes, a wool pad and that should be swirl-free too but if you have ligth holograms, a random orbital and Flagship by Meguiar's should remove all of them. Use the DA to apply the wax and then using clean pads, to remove it.
Make sure to clean the rig after compounding but before your protective step, wax, polymer, sealant, polish... (all the same basically except caranuba wax which sucks/fails)
There's a steep learning curve with gelcoat but once you get to a point where you can get any gelcoat, no matter how faded, to come back, it all gets easier. Keep going. It's all in my vids. Not painted aluminum siding but everything else.
@@Local_Boydidgood thanks for your help, do you have a page I could follow? And if you sell product I would be more than happy to run/purchase what you supply.
@@Local_Boydidgood is there a time you would ever use a compound/ polish?
Whats the purpose of a polish when you can achieve this with compound?
I love the Ex comments lmao. Mine turned into a lying bitch as well. Thanks for the videos and instruction! 🤘
Perhaps, the same person? Lol
Thanks for the comments.
Lee
@@Local_Boydidgood Lmao Lee... I just saw this, don't know how I missed it. But they all turn into the same "no accountability, I'm the victim" liars that they're born to be.
"self-made" she says.. Ugh. Can't even acknowledge a shared effort. She did it all. (losing money for 4 years in a row before we met, never saw anything but a 500% growth after we met..) Logic?
Oh well, I'm in my 3rd year and she's just as boring and predictable as she ever was.
What she's spent (of our money) on legal fees in 3byears is more than I WAS asking the courts. Now I'm asking for a full split and I'll get it. I warned her about all this years ago. I told her I would stop when I saw "fair". That number has almost tripled since it started. A "Mess around, find out" mentality has been formulated in me.
I appreciate the support. I can't wait to be done with paperwork. I was Pro Se for about a year and a half and have done fairly well on my own but I'd kill for a good attorney I could afford.
Be good!
Lee
@@Local_Boydidgood Oh brother I'm with you on the paperwork, I am so glad mine is finalized . I hope you come out on top!
Best wishes Shawn
Thanks. In my 3rd year (no kids) I hope to be enjoying a beer, not thinking about all this for the rest of my days.
Cheers,
Lee
No holograms either?
Did you see any?