Ya a year an a half ago when it first spiked the whole deck was still only 50-60 bucks but paying the prices now is nuts. Just proxy it and slowly slot in real cards later if you prefer
I mean if the pieces are cheap, and I'm sure they will be again soon, I don't really see why not buy them. Proxying is great for expensive cards but at a certain point, the effort you're putting in is worth more of your time than just buying the real cards.
I'm so sad because Investigator was sitting at 1.5$ for the longest time and I didn't pull the trigger. I knew it was under evaluated because black 4 drops are always dismissed if they're not better than Sheoldred. I don't want to say it's better than Sheoldred, but... discard + card draw > life drain. So it kinda is in some decks that can trigger it every turn. The only problem is that you don't always have the mana to crack all the clues it makes. But even if you only draw 2 cards with it, that's insane value. It's a 4-for-1.
Yeah people way overestimate how good Sheoldred is. People thinking banning her will do anything, she has so many better cards already in the format and this one was no different.
@@yavivanov6650 I mean obviously it depends on the matchup. The fact is Sheoldred is only a 90$ card vs aggro lmao. Against other midrange decks or control Sheoldred is a 10$ card and you'd rather have Investigator. Especially since it's not legendary so you can just double up and bury the opponent in card advantage. A big reason why Sheoldred was so good in the first place is because the removal was lackluster. Now that the removal is better, we see many lists not playing Sheoldred anymore. Even red decks can now remove Sheoldred for 1 or 2 mana.
Investigator is awesome. Immediately comes down generating value and taking out opponent's resources, triggers with looting, Liliana, channel, cycling. An absolute unit
god I hate what they did with big score... turns out if you print 30 standard legal cards at a higher rarity than mythic they end up costing a lot of money, who knew??
I’ve been hyped about hostile investigator since prerelease season. It’s kinda nuts that on turn four you get a 4/3, your opponent discards, and you make a clue. For a while I tried a modern Rakdos list with it, New Magda, and academy manufacturer to turbo out dragons, but Magda seems better suited to gruul crimes I guess. All that to say, I’m not shocked that it’s gaining some traction in competitive magic, it’s a sweet card
Oh man, I pulled 3 Hostile Negotiators and thought "boo, why is this such a cheap mythic" and now I'm like "hey, into the box you go". Thanks Fish Man.
Players draw from a shared deck that has a bunch of blue spells (so lots of counterspells, card draw, top deck manipulation, etc.) plus Dandans. Basically the goal is to try and draw and play the Dandan to attack with while both players have a buttload of interaction and draw spells to try and stop each other.
The Waste not deck really wants to close out games before their opponents can get an answer from the top of their deck. This is a body and can help you dig towards a Sheoldred, Lilli or graveyard tresspasser or another one of itself while closing out the game when both players are out of resources. It also makes you a little less reliant on waste not for discard value which is another weakness of the deck.
Can’t wait for Basic Island to spike Dandǎn play a lot of those
"Basic Island by Raul Vitale"
The fact that people buy Forgetful Fish decks instead of just proxying the whole thing is beyond me.
Proxying is fine and all, but having an actual Dandan deck is pretty cool
Ya a year an a half ago when it first spiked the whole deck was still only 50-60 bucks but paying the prices now is nuts. Just proxy it and slowly slot in real cards later if you prefer
I mean if the pieces are cheap, and I'm sure they will be again soon, I don't really see why not buy them. Proxying is great for expensive cards but at a certain point, the effort you're putting in is worth more of your time than just buying the real cards.
My only physical deck is a dandan deck I made by writing the cards and cutting them out on paper and putting it over basic lands in sleeves. I like it
I bought a proxy dandan deck off of Etsy, just treated it like buying an in the box card game, plus the art is awesome.
Wizards should release a DanDan Precon
I'm so sad because Investigator was sitting at 1.5$ for the longest time and I didn't pull the trigger. I knew it was under evaluated because black 4 drops are always dismissed if they're not better than Sheoldred.
I don't want to say it's better than Sheoldred, but... discard + card draw > life drain. So it kinda is in some decks that can trigger it every turn. The only problem is that you don't always have the mana to crack all the clues it makes. But even if you only draw 2 cards with it, that's insane value. It's a 4-for-1.
Yeah people way overestimate how good Sheoldred is. People thinking banning her will do anything, she has so many better cards already in the format and this one was no different.
Dude, sheoldred shuts down almost all aggro decks, and is a great blocker.
Investigator is an overcosted discard spell with a so so body.
@@yavivanov6650 I mean obviously it depends on the matchup. The fact is Sheoldred is only a 90$ card vs aggro lmao. Against other midrange decks or control Sheoldred is a 10$ card and you'd rather have Investigator. Especially since it's not legendary so you can just double up and bury the opponent in card advantage.
A big reason why Sheoldred was so good in the first place is because the removal was lackluster. Now that the removal is better, we see many lists not playing Sheoldred anymore. Even red decks can now remove Sheoldred for 1 or 2 mana.
Big score cards are super volatile so it's usually worth not waiting on them if cheap -.-
I didn't realize it had gotten above 3 bucks nevermind 15
Investigator is awesome. Immediately comes down generating value and taking out opponent's resources, triggers with looting, Liliana, channel, cycling. An absolute unit
Quakebringer seems like a really good self-mill dredge include, I just realized
I already ran 4x mainboard in pioneer
If you have a consistent way to keep giants on board, or to reanimate it yes it very much is
god I hate what they did with big score... turns out if you print 30 standard legal cards at a higher rarity than mythic they end up costing a lot of money, who knew??
Gotta love the era of every card being pushed to all hell so that people dont complain that "only commander gets cool toys"
I definitely should've picked up cards for Forgetful Fish a while ago. I may just proxy it so everything can be in the modern frame anyway!
Crim hyped the card up too much 😭😭😭
Glad I snagged a foil alt art Quakebringer for Ojer Axonil, that price spike is crazy
I have a copy of the black creature so good for me to resell it.
What happened to all the hostile investigator Seth?😂
I’ve been hyped about hostile investigator since prerelease season. It’s kinda nuts that on turn four you get a 4/3, your opponent discards, and you make a clue. For a while I tried a modern Rakdos list with it, New Magda, and academy manufacturer to turbo out dragons, but Magda seems better suited to gruul crimes I guess. All that to say, I’m not shocked that it’s gaining some traction in competitive magic, it’s a sweet card
Oh man, I pulled 3 Hostile Negotiators and thought "boo, why is this such a cheap mythic" and now I'm like "hey, into the box you go".
Thanks Fish Man.
Oh dang, glad I grabbed a playset of Quakey Bois when I did!
Rest assured the cards I own never spike.
I'm still waiting for one big score card, Sword of Wealth and Power, to drop to a reasonable price.
Ok, but _why_ did it spiked?
What is the Dandǎn format?
Players draw from a shared deck that has a bunch of blue spells (so lots of counterspells, card draw, top deck manipulation, etc.) plus Dandans. Basically the goal is to try and draw and play the Dandan to attack with while both players have a buttload of interaction and draw spells to try and stop each other.
@@BobBoicanYou may not like it, but this is what peak magic looks like.
Wizards should really just make a precon dandan pack ready to play
I just pulled this card when I won a draft
I really like these videos!
If you want to build a dandan deck but don’t want to buy magical hack, you can play mind bend instead, it is almost the same
Money - Pink Floyd
The bulk mythic that should have been uncommon is $15?!?!?!?
Big Score more like Big Mistake... come on wizards
lol part of the reason hostile investigator went up was bc it was playable…do not buy those other unplayable garbage big score cards
That discard card sucks. Why are people playing it lol
Why does he talk like that?
This card doesn’t look very good at all 😅
Dude its 3 per 1 by default. I had been wondering why it was so cheap.
The Waste not deck really wants to close out games before their opponents can get an answer from the top of their deck. This is a body and can help you dig towards a Sheoldred, Lilli or graveyard tresspasser or another one of itself while closing out the game when both players are out of resources.
It also makes you a little less reliant on waste not for discard value which is another weakness of the deck.
@@silverdeathgamer2907 Do Waste Not decks play any Clue/Investigate synergies normally, or do you just crack the clue for card draw?
@@ullrich You crack it for the card draw mostly but there is some synergy with fatal push and Sheoldred..