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Another big downside to Chandra Ablaze's -2 is that it specifies "His or Her" hand. So it wont even rob that nonbinary blue player of their twenty card hand.
@@iankane3732 I think Oko is 100% in Top-5, but there are some great options what even see active CEDH play. Like Karn, the Great Creator, Tyvar Jubilar Brawler, Teferi, Time Reveler. Oko see’s Ocasional play, but I’m not sure if he’s better than those ones.
Some more than others. Chandra would be fine at a different mana cost (1RR, or maybe 3R?), so I'm pretty sure it's possible to make that one work. Gideon, on the other hand, is basically dead unless you find a way to make his 0 useful.
I'm a bit guilty of this too. I remember pulling that Chandra back in the day thinking of how to make her work despite it being a high costed mono-red card.
@@therealax6 Gideon would be fine as the wincon on a lock deck. You let them play all creatures they want and use something like Ensnaring Bridge or similar to prevent them from attacking, then you +1 until doing a -15 followed by a 0 lethal (and then pray for no Path to Exile).
I agree with all of them except Gideon, while you probably could make a decent deck I can not forgive him destroying all lands, I want my god damned lands.
It's still a better version of surveil and uptick abilities are typically much weaker than the minus ones, and his minus 3 is disgustingly good. Removal for any nonland permanent while bypassing indestructible is amazing. The prof has never played against blue/white control decks it seems like.
@@katesperinck1401 Surveil does the same thing but allows you to keep the cards on top instead of having to throw one in the bin, so it's clearly better than Jace's +1. I guess you meant it's a better version of scry? Maybe, but I'm not so sure about that either. Not having the option of leaving the top as is or getting rid of both cards is pretty limiting.
@@uandubh5087 Jace's +1 allows you to dig 2 cards into your library which is better than scry 1 or surveil 1. The worst case scenario only sounds bad but it's still good to have 2 good choices and keep the best, or 2 bad choices and discard the worst and you can make a better informed decision. It's not the most amazing ability but I'd still give the planeswalker a passing grade and probably would pick it in a limited environment unlike the other walkers on the list which are objectively terrible.
@@therealax6 surveil 2 is definitely an upgrade but I'd prefer it over surveil 1. Not amazing but still worthwhile, the card is just a more fair version of Teferi time raveler.
ngl the selesnya Huatli actually does look fun in a token commander deck, on the lower power side where people don't close out games fast enough you can easily ult her and get crazy value !
Huatli pulls it's weigth in my Jetmir Deck i can also see her in a Cadira, Caller of the Small Deck as Huatli+Cadira work realy well together Once you Ult Huatli, everytime Cadira attacks you get a lot of dard draw and the Emblem is a may-trigger, meaning you don't draw yourself to death
Something about that precon called to me when it was released, it seemed so awful I just wanted to figure out what to do with it. Long story short I slowly went about changing the lousy walkers for better ones, 6 Teferis later and other such nonsense the deck makes me archenemy at my table by turn 4 and it takes multiple combined efforts to slow me down. The deck still has a lot of weaknesses but it is satisfying as all hell to win with it in spite of it being the worst of the master set.
I run him in one commander deck. It's an original Niv-Mizzet, so any card draw is useful, and the game plan doesn't really care what cards are in hand, so the random discard isn't an issue. And people kind of ignore it, and the ultimate is a potential game winner.
@robmitchell3039 I just wanted a spot for the white border one xD. I bought the secret lair that had him and storm crow and such so I want to make sure I use them. He just happens to do things that Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar wants to do and you're right, a lot of people ignore him and then get beat out by the ult. Sometimes being bad let's you just fly under the radar.
Saw the title and thought.... "Well, this video has been done hundreds of times, its going to be tibalt and every planeswalker deck planeswalker" First thing prof says: Not including either tibalt and those planeswalker decks thingy. Now you got my attention :)
Yea I heard him say Huatli and was like, what? That card is nuts as an oathbreaker and also quite good in just about every token list ever in her colors
@@chasebootz I think huatli can possibly be strong in weaker play groups, where games tend to go long. Like, the only semi-useful ability of hers is the sorcery speed +x/+x but there are other cards that do this better and maybe are even creatures themselves. There are so many good cards with the text "equal to tje number of creatures you control" that can easily outpace and outvalue huatli. Check on scryfall. The other two loyalty-abilities are really just one ability, because you only the first one, to be able to MAYBE activate the ultimate ability next turn. Spending 4 mana and having to wait until your next turn, IF you have at least 5 creatures in play AND your opponent couldn't damage huatlie in anyway, to THEN let you draw cards for putting MORE creatures into play... in green is just ... not very efficient. If you have 5+ creatures in play... just go ahead and kill your opponent with Overrun (+3/+3 and trample to all creatures) if you want to draw cards for four mana, just play Harmonize (2GG - Draw 3 cards), you didn't have to wait a full turn, you don't need 5 creatures in play to unlock some an ultimate.
Bad as he is, Karn can at least be some nice redundancy for your win con in any Commander deck trying to combo off with infinite mana. Nobody will take Karn seriously until he's suddenly fetching you that Walking Ballista or X spell to win you the game.
I am running him in my Urza, High Lord Artificer "Big Blue" themed deck. Mainly because I run all 6 Karns, but - as you say - he is an infinite mana sink.
Plus, any walker with a reasonable + ability is a second face you can throw out as a punching bag to distract from your life total. And being colorless, he slots in everywhere...
It frustrates me when people say that this Karn is bad because he's just objectively good in artifact combo decks in GAS and CanLander (and commander if they'd unban paradox engine 😂). Like I understand those are niche formats, but he's good in specific strategies. He actually does relevant things, creates mana or is just a tutor, or WINS THE GAME in those style of decks.
I run Huatli in my Jedit Ojanen, Mercenary deck. I run lots of cheap-ish legends, and each creates a 2/2 cat with forestwalk. Huatli provides card draw.
This huatli was always one of the more interesting planeswalkers to me, just because of how fast she can ulgain loyality, the only real competitor in gaining loyality to this decree is one of the gideons. Also if you can make it happen both of these are funny with war of the sparks nicol bolas
@@Shimatzu95 Grist is pretty good at gaining loyalty, you have to be a little lucky but the loyalty gain also does something so there's a reason to get it, plus its very easy to stack your library and make them gain a very large amount of loyalty very quickly.
Heck, I preordered a playset of Kytheon, Hero of Akros because "He's a one mana planeswalker!" Except, the vast majority of the time, you'll need to use his three mana ability to keep him alive to be flipped, so really, he's a four mana planeswalker. And if you don't need to use that three mana ability, you were already going to win that game without flipping him. Still, his floor is being Savannah Lions until you're able to transform him, which makes him way better than Tibalt.
Tibalt was my first pulled planeswalker and still have my copy in a binder. To this day he still has a soft spot in my heart as one of my favorite cards. One day I will make him good I swear! One day.
Can someone explain to me why Tibalt is so bad? I know I'm fairly new to Magic but aside from his low loyalty and being vulnerable for 4 turns to use his ultimate, drawing a card and discarding a card can be a really good strat. His second ability kinda sucks but it seems like a gamble on whether it'd be useful or not. That ultimate seems pretty sick too, just don't lose him for 4 turns, counter spells, block, and have cards in your deck to draw back discards? Seems simple to me. Either hes really not that bad, or these are opinions from professional players thay are on such a level of complexity I can't even comprehend it yet.
Ohh boy! You have a mountain to learn! It's fine, a lot of new mechanics, a couple of new card types, and whole boat load of new art. You will love relearning it.
I'd have a look at Commander, it's very casual and due to only letting a single copy of each card (except the ones you can have more than 1), you learn a lot of cards
Yeah, she's pretty dire, although this isn't entirely her fault. If OG Venture into the Dungeon was a stronger mechanic, then maybe, but when they buffed it later with the Undercity / Initiative, it wasn't backward compatible.
The one good thing about Hualti and Gideon’s ability to add counters based on number of creatures is that it actually would get doubled by doubling season effects, since it’s not a cost
While terrible on her own, Chandra Ablaze's -2 ability is actually insane if you have a Waste Not on board. You could potentially dump a bunch of 2/2 zombies on the field, create a bunch of black mana to cast the at minimum 3 cards you draw, and/or draw a ton of cards. Not to mention clearing out Josh Lee Kwai's full grip and leaving him with 3 cards in hand.
Just cutting one or more opponents hand down in size is somewhat decent, but she really suffers from being overly cautiously designed and 2mv too high.
She is a bit expensive, but that's really her only problem. She enables Madness, you'll usually use her -2 asymmetrically (and again, for Madness, if possible), and her ulti is desastrous enough to keep her pulling punches that would otherwise go to your face.
@@Volkbrecht yeah I always evaluate from the commander side of things, so 6 mana is about where I start saying is this worth it, and if I am playing madness or discard for value she is a definite include. She is basically two Wheel of Fortunes only draw 3 not 7.
C. Ablaze saw competitive play for a few months in Standard with Big Red & RDW, as a 1 to 2 of main/sideboard. That -2 against control was basically: Draw 3, Opponent Discards 4. If it wasn't for the fact Jund was still the best deck at the time and Caw Blade was on the horizon, it might have gotten some more recognition. There's just not much LGS and Minor Tournament data online from that era of standard.
That's what I was thinking: you discard your probably empty hand and draw 3, while your control opponent discards their hand full of counterspells and removal and draws 3. It's one of those effects that looks symmetrical, but really isn't.
@@therealax6yeah how do you figure you are going to resolve a 6 mana planeswalker against someone with a hand full of counterspells lmao. This use case honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you really think about it.
Like as RDW you want to try and go underneath the control deck and and kill them asap, trying to out-grind a control deck with RDW is a fool's errand..
I use Karn Living Legacy in my Urzas Battlethopter deck and it does very well for me. Granted i have ways of generating a lot of mana so i can pump 5-10 mana into the -1 and still have mana left over to cast whatever i get.
Yeah and with infinite mana he can win you the game by looking at your whole deck and grabbing whatever combo piece you need to win. He's definitely not useless just extremely niche in his use cases.
As someone who only dabbles in magic occasionally I think planeswalkers as a mechanic is some of the coolest stuff in TCGs. The “super friends” or whatever style decks are always the ones I gravitate towards the most when I play.
I'm not gonna lie Hautli on the second slot is decent actually alright, not the most impactful right away but she's good. I would have put other planeswalkers here but that's just me being biased since I've always have a really good Huatli whenever I play her obviously you need set up but in decks that have that strategy won't discount her.
My main deck for commander is a Nicol Bolas themed super friend deck (more of a legion of doom). So for me, this was a fun video. Proud that none of the 5 are in my deck.
Ahhh Number 4 hurts lol. Had her in Gishath for a long time, get a lot of Loyalty, downtick to kill with a Second Gishath attack, and make sure Gishath also kept my hand filled for late interaction. she's definitely my favorite lady in Magic. Sadly i did bite a bullet and took her out eventually.
They've only been printing one a set recently and I've been liking it, especially in limited. They are nice but I was able to beat someone who had a Kaeya on board for 8 turns just a couple days ago.
Wow! Huatli? I run her in a token commander deck, and its quite awesome! Of course, its quite a niche case, but its awesome. You play it with 5 or 6 token creatures, use the +1, gets to ult range, and your tokens will probably help her survive one turn. Can also be played as a finisher. I think that the floor with this planeswalker is really low, but also the ceiling is extremely high
Agreed. I have her in a rabbit/token tribal commander deck and she’s a lot of fun to play. Can get crazy high loyalty turn one and then get you a bunch of cards turn 2
Have you ever enchanted a Gideon, Champion of Justice with Teferi's Talent? Turns into a big indestructible creature whenever it's attacked, and gain loyalty whenever it isn't.
Gotta disagree with huatli for commander reasons. She generally takes 1 turn to reach the ultimate, and then the card draw engine is essentially a far better beast whisperer that can't be removed (since its an emblem). You mentioned the original chandra, and that would likely be my replacement for huatli, OG chandra is essentially just a slow, terrible board wipe if you can even get to her ultimate
VALIDATION!!!!! When Jace, Living Guildpact was spoiled, I was told he was broken. Like people tried to convince me that he was a playable card, because “you got to see two cards! And throw that flashback card into the graveyard!” Terrible card and I’m so glad I never played him.
Back when Chandra Ablaze was new, I had a lit of fun with her in Standard on MTGO. Made a whole Naya superfriends deck that was basically ramp and board wipes, + Elspeth and Garruk for board position, all building to casting 1 or 2 Violent Ultimatums and then recasting them with Chandra's ult to blow up the opponent's mana base and whatever else I had spare targets for.
I remember when tibalt was getting a VS deck ad getting really excited about it. Finally we were going to see how WotC thought the card should work and what shell… I ended up disappointed.
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I'm a bit surprised Nissa Revane isn't on this list. Huatli can be useful in a Commander token strategy. Nissa was made for Elves, and you'd likely rather run any actual elf card in place of her.
Gonna defend Huatli here real quick. It's the only one I disagree with. Huatli's emblem is NOT Glimpse of Nature. The key point here that the Prof completely wiffed on is the fact that Huatli's emblem (and uptick as well notably) counts TOKEN creatures. Almost every other "creature enters, draw card" effect specifically carves out token creatures except for Huatli's emblem. Huatli's emblem, unlike most of the effects as well, is OPTIONAL card draw, so you have significantly less risk of simply decking yourself off the value. You say not to evaluate a plainswalker by it's ultimate, but there are several plainswalkers (including this Huatli) where they have so much loyalty generation that it seems unfair not to account for an ultimate within the power level. There are games where I've ulted Huatli multiple times in a single game. Huatli is one of the few plainswalkers that shine in commander, as she is one of the few that can generate such a large amount of loyalty that it is unrealistic to even try to kill her. There is a reason that Huatli (at ~$20) quadruples the price of the second most expensive plainswalker on this list, which is weirdly Chandra Ablaze (~5).
Huatli is really nice in commander, strictly because her emblem works with token generation unlike mosy other card advantage cards. Rite of Harmony is usually a better choice now, though.
when prof introduced number 2 it made me very nostalgic for some of the very first videos he made as the voice sounded the same as he sounded 10 years ago
One I was expecting to be on here but isn't: Venser the Sojourner. I loved playing decks built around janky mini-combos with him, but he is such a "win harder" commander, and he doesn't even really have a cohesive identity to build a winning strategy around. His +2 is about rebuying ETBs, but his -1 is for swinging in big with small creatures? And his Ult is strong but nowhere close to immediately backbreaking like pretty much every Planeswalker of the time was.
I'm baffled by the Huatli take, like that is literally the best Huatli even when compared to other Huatli's I think he underestimates how often you can get into big stalemate fights with big boards and how effective she is at helping you win those fights. I mean her minus 1 is literally a game winner for 4 if you already have the board set up and have trample.
Glad to see so many comments supporting Huatli, I personally built a Oathbreaker deck with Huatli which is a format I am sure this list doesn't consider, but could easily shine in a token based deck in other formats. Can be protected with things like Teferi's protection and Clever Concealment, which are just good cards for protection anyway. I also like to put a huge number of loyalty counters and then equip Huatli with Luxior, Giada's gift and swing for big damage.
I feel like the Jace ability meant to say "and put the rest into your hand" at the end but somewhere along the way they flubbed it and no one caught the mistake until it was too late. That said, I think he'd actually fit quite well in a recursion deck, being able to cheat large boys into the graveyard without casting them comes in handy sometimes.
I have the Jace, Chandra, and Huatli in a planeswalker cube list where the rule is that you can’t attack or target a player if they have a planeswalker on the battlefield. Other unique rules is that there is a limited amount of basic lands that everyone plays from (other utility lands are in the deck) and players use a shared library, graveyard, and exile. Owner’s hand can be any player’s hand.
What's funny is that there was an Ajani from those planeswalker decks that actually *was* standard relevant! It made an infinite turns combo with Timestream Navigator.
16:47 I'm pretty sure I single-handedly got Wizards to fix the Oracle listing for Null Rod. Without the Romanized text, the meaning of Hanna's response changes. However they originally digitized the card's flavor text removed the nuance and thus the meaning. I petitioned three different ways, and now it's correct.
Edit: It was fixed last time I checked. Now, it's back to being wrong. Thankfully (?), Scryfall has it right, but only if you look at the Weatherlight version. (This became important to me because they reprinted it in Vintage Masters incorrectly.)
It's a magnificent damage sink in commander, and the animation scaling off of loyalty can make it a really strong finisher with a source of evasion The Ult just doesn't happen without shenanigans
Great video Prof! I imagine opening one of these planeswalkers and trying to convince myself is good, by the way a video on wasted art or awesome card names on bad cards would be cool too! I mean Gideon champion of justice, Karn living legacy and Chandra Ablaze are cool names but they are stuck on bad cards.
Huatli put in some work for me back in her Standard time, thanks to Hidden Stockpile shenanigans. Specifically played her for going big, which the deck lacked. It had removal down, but really needed a good "crack back with the one non-sick token" option. Really niche for sure. I miss that deck, but not the second box of tokens I had to lug around.
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Gideon was my first Plainswalker i got in a booster deck...god did i tried to make him work and never could, being blind by the fact he was a Plainswalker and therefore i believe he was automatically good...At least my next Plainswalker were Domri who was broken and Elsphet which ruled control white, blue and black decks !! Good times !!
Now, this Gideon is awful. But sometimes in low-mid power commander people just kinda make 40+ (or 4 thousand+) token creatures without haste, in a “board wipe or I win” situation. Pretty sure him+chain veil would be pretty sick in that situation, gain 4000+ loyalty and wipe the board, keeping a ton of loyalty for further turns
He can gain the 4000 loyalty counters the turn you play him, but you need another card to wipe out those creatures before your opponent's turn or they'll just attack and kill you for sure.
@@PassGoGames that’s why I mentioned chain veil, allows him to activate a loyalty ability twice per turn (and is a card you might already be playing in super friends/planeswalker decks)
I'm using Karn in my Brudiclad deck - provides both some ramp to cast my commander and eventually, after Brudi gets to the battlefield, all those mana rocks become creatures
I used to win so many Standard games with Gideon Champion of Justice back during RTR/Theros standard. I ran him as a one of in a blue white control deck built around Sphere of Safety with Dictate of Kruphix being my main win condition. My opponents would just dump creatures onto the board that they couldn't attack with just because they didn't want to discard them. A single uptick followed by a Supreme Verdict usually got me there
I’ve pulled off Gideon ult multiple times. He’s one of 5 finishers in my All Walls/Maze’s End deck. He’d safely get to 25 loyalty behind walls and then randomly two shot kill players. While they’re figuring him out, Blight Piles or Vent Sentinels are burning. I’m sure he’s gotten a lot worse with the destroyer target PW spells though
I'm going to disagree with your analysis of Huatli- the key is that she doesn't say "nontoken". She'll get to her ultimate with a cast+flashback of Lingering Souls, for example, and if you get her ultimate, that same spell will draw 4. I'm not saying she's good, she's not, but in a dedicated tokens deck it's not the worst decision.
I remember my first experiences with plainswalkers, and how they were considered trash by everyone around me because of how easy they were to just get rid of, they effectively wasted a turn for no payout.
I once made a Feldon of the Third Path deck with Both Chandra Ablaze AND Original Tibalt. They where actually pretty good as the whole point of the deck was to quickly get everything in my hand in the graveyard. That Tibalt was a Foil Tibalt as well. One i traded away the Grizzlebrand i opened to my friend. We're not friends anymore.
I once had that exact Gideon as a 20/20 swinging with the equipment kusari gama so it was take more than half your life, or lose your board. Was super fun
Gideon CoJ is my favourite planeswalker card of all time, and my favourite card overall, Theros’ Hundred-Handed One, is one of his best friends. I ran them both in my first ever commander deck, it was Avacyn, Guardian Angel and it was an amazing time.
If Chandra Ablaze were 4 mana instead of 6, I would definitely use her. But only in my Anje Madness commander deck. In that deck she would be pretty sweet jank honestly. But at 6? Yeesh 😬
My question on the very first card, is; wouldn't that Jace work decently well in a Dimir deck? Pull what you actually want out of your grave maybe? And also, does his -3 only work on the battlefield or could it 'target' something in the grave?
There are several of the Intro deck Planeswalkers that are solid in Commander, mainly because their overcosted nature doesn't matter quite as much there as it would in formats like Standard. For instance, Nissa, Genesis Mage, her +2 and -10 abilities are both really good, and her -3 is useful.
The funny thing is, probably my favorite deck I own is a Brawl-style (60 card highlander) sliver deck with Huatli, Radiant Champion as the commander. I'm sure there are a bunch of better choices, but I kinda love her. XD
@TolarianCommunityCollege - Prof, would you be able to comment on the recent announcement of WoTC discontinuing translated cards to Portuguese (and other languages)? What is your view? For us, those news are another devastating round from them. Although we have a thriving community, top players all around the game’s history, some facts include that MTG has always been more expensive here; Wizards closed their regional office; now no translations mean zero means for our LGS to attract newcomers.
Many magic the gathering players are asking why wizards won't translate anymore their products to Portuguese. Their player base in Brazil will only decline with this poor decision. WotC deserves to be confrotated with the nudes of Vampeta. They deserve the Vampetaço.
There are some ways to build around that Chandra (Madness cards, punishing opponents for drawing cards), but unfortunately that all goes out the window when you have to pay 6 mana.
Liliana of the Dark Realms and Sarkhan the Mad come to mind. Liliana does at least... draw you a swamp and maybe removes a thing if you really are only playing swamps, but the low starting loyalty and the fact that her middle ability kills her if you don't at least spend a turn getting a swamp is awful. Sarkhan is just... incredibly self-defeating? but I guess he has seen play, so... what do I know?
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i have a question, did the give away, from translife already happened? people who won where notified?
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What an amazing ad!
same! @@andrewfoster8100
which one is the link to the planes walkers plaing plainswakers vid
Another big downside to Chandra Ablaze's -2 is that it specifies "His or Her" hand. So it wont even rob that nonbinary blue player of their twenty card hand.
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Thank god they eventually nerfed the nonbinary players. For years you couldn’t even target them!
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I solemnly ask that there be a "top 5 planeswalker's" video to rival this stupendous piece of cinematography.
It’s a bit harder tho
Bad planeswalkers are bad everywhere
Good ones might depend on a format
Wren&Six are busted in modern, and yet very weak in Edh
@@Uefetiwell we certainly know who #1 would be tho, oko stands alone.
I think my 5 would be oko, minsc and boo, wrenn and six, teferi time raveler and karn, the great creator.
@@iankane3732
I think Oko is 100% in Top-5, but there are some great options what even see active CEDH play.
Like Karn, the Great Creator, Tyvar Jubilar Brawler, Teferi, Time Reveler.
Oko see’s Ocasional play, but I’m not sure if he’s better than those ones.
@@iankane3732
That’s a Good List tho!
My toxic trait is thinking I could find a way to make these guys both work, and be fun to play.
Some more than others. Chandra would be fine at a different mana cost (1RR, or maybe 3R?), so I'm pretty sure it's possible to make that one work. Gideon, on the other hand, is basically dead unless you find a way to make his 0 useful.
I'm a bit guilty of this too. I remember pulling that Chandra back in the day thinking of how to make her work despite it being a high costed mono-red card.
@@therealax6
Gideon would be fine as the wincon on a lock deck. You let them play all creatures they want and use something like Ensnaring Bridge or similar to prevent them from attacking, then you +1 until doing a -15 followed by a 0 lethal (and then pray for no Path to Exile).
I actually think Huatli would easily get you a dub if she’s timed right with a go wide strategy and Doubling Season.
I agree with all of them except Gideon, while you probably could make a decent deck I can not forgive him destroying all lands, I want my god damned lands.
I made a Chandra tribal deck with all 20 Chandra walkers in it, even the bad ones and the uncommon. Flavor, hooooo!
I also made a commander with her flipper, share list?
I did this with Ajani! Lots of fun.
I love Chandra and collect all cards that mention/reference her, I just need to put together the cards and make a commander themed deck.
Im proud of mine. As long as there is no enchantments, it does ok
Hey same here. Let all 5 of us rejoice in our Chandra decks
Lol I made that exact mistake reading the first Jace ability, did a double take. "Wait, you don't *get* the card??"
It's still a better version of surveil and uptick abilities are typically much weaker than the minus ones, and his minus 3 is disgustingly good. Removal for any nonland permanent while bypassing indestructible is amazing. The prof has never played against blue/white control decks it seems like.
@@katesperinck1401 Surveil does the same thing but allows you to keep the cards on top instead of having to throw one in the bin, so it's clearly better than Jace's +1. I guess you meant it's a better version of scry? Maybe, but I'm not so sure about that either. Not having the option of leaving the top as is or getting rid of both cards is pretty limiting.
@@katesperinck1401 Surveil 2 is a strict upgrade from that ability, although it's very similar in spirit.
@@uandubh5087 Jace's +1 allows you to dig 2 cards into your library which is better than scry 1 or surveil 1. The worst case scenario only sounds bad but it's still good to have 2 good choices and keep the best, or 2 bad choices and discard the worst and you can make a better informed decision. It's not the most amazing ability but I'd still give the planeswalker a passing grade and probably would pick it in a limited environment unlike the other walkers on the list which are objectively terrible.
@@therealax6 surveil 2 is definitely an upgrade but I'd prefer it over surveil 1. Not amazing but still worthwhile, the card is just a more fair version of Teferi time raveler.
ngl the selesnya Huatli actually does look fun in a token commander deck, on the lower power side where people don't close out games fast enough you can easily ult her and get crazy value !
I run her in my token deck. She is a game winner 100%
@@deanjones3163 let's go ! gonna try her next time I play my Maja deck
Single uptick to reach the bonkers ultimate. I really don't unterstand what she's doing here
@@tilleruez6869 in regular 60 cards she's very trash tbf
Huatli pulls it's weigth in my Jetmir Deck
i can also see her in a Cadira, Caller of the Small Deck as Huatli+Cadira work realy well together
Once you Ult Huatli, everytime Cadira attacks you get a lot of dard draw and the Emblem is a may-trigger, meaning you don't draw yourself to death
Shoutout to planeswalker party deck, making the worst of the worst all come together in a single space🎉🎉🎉
even worse, on purpose by WotC
Peoples paid for commander master at a ''premimum price'' shame.
@@ArticWolfvfor a premium price!
Yet, 20 changed cards and the deck steals games in our group. It's OK.
Something about that precon called to me when it was released, it seemed so awful I just wanted to figure out what to do with it. Long story short I slowly went about changing the lousy walkers for better ones, 6 Teferis later and other such nonsense the deck makes me archenemy at my table by turn 4 and it takes multiple combined efforts to slow me down. The deck still has a lot of weaknesses but it is satisfying as all hell to win with it in spite of it being the worst of the master set.
Me, holding my white border Tibalt I un-ironically play in Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar: I just think he's neat
I run him in one commander deck. It's an original Niv-Mizzet, so any card draw is useful, and the game plan doesn't really care what cards are in hand, so the random discard isn't an issue. And people kind of ignore it, and the ultimate is a potential game winner.
@robmitchell3039 I just wanted a spot for the white border one xD. I bought the secret lair that had him and storm crow and such so I want to make sure I use them. He just happens to do things that Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar wants to do and you're right, a lot of people ignore him and then get beat out by the ult. Sometimes being bad let's you just fly under the radar.
I have him in a RGW self discard deck. I generally don’t care what I’m discarding
Magic the gathering light mode 🤢
Magic the gathering light mode 🤢
Saw the title and thought.... "Well, this video has been done hundreds of times, its going to be tibalt and every planeswalker deck planeswalker"
First thing prof says: Not including either tibalt and those planeswalker decks thingy.
Now you got my attention :)
Huatli is in my Selesnya Token deck. Getting free card draw with my tokens is tasty
Yea I heard him say Huatli and was like, what? That card is nuts as an oathbreaker and also quite good in just about every token list ever in her colors
@@chasebootz I think huatli can possibly be strong in weaker play groups, where games tend to go long.
Like, the only semi-useful ability of hers is the sorcery speed +x/+x but there are other cards that do this better and maybe are even creatures themselves. There are so many good cards with the text "equal to tje number of creatures you control" that can easily outpace and outvalue huatli. Check on scryfall.
The other two loyalty-abilities are really just one ability, because you only the first one, to be able to MAYBE activate the ultimate ability next turn.
Spending 4 mana and having to wait until your next turn, IF you have at least 5 creatures in play AND your opponent couldn't damage huatlie in anyway, to THEN let you draw cards for putting MORE creatures into play... in green is just ... not very efficient.
If you have 5+ creatures in play... just go ahead and kill your opponent with Overrun (+3/+3 and trample to all creatures) if you want to draw cards for four mana, just play Harmonize (2GG - Draw 3 cards), you didn't have to wait a full turn, you don't need 5 creatures in play to unlock some an ultimate.
Even more so since they made a Tendershoot Dryad for white color.
Same! She’s a powerhouse whenever I draw her in my Emmara brawl deck.
Same reaction. But to be fair, token decks are probably the only place she has in the game.
Mandatory time for me to bring up the pre-release where I saw a guy trade a tibalt for a cookie.
Bad as he is, Karn can at least be some nice redundancy for your win con in any Commander deck trying to combo off with infinite mana. Nobody will take Karn seriously until he's suddenly fetching you that Walking Ballista or X spell to win you the game.
I am running him in my Urza, High Lord Artificer "Big Blue" themed deck. Mainly because I run all 6 Karns, but - as you say - he is an infinite mana sink.
Plus, any walker with a reasonable + ability is a second face you can throw out as a punching bag to distract from your life total. And being colorless, he slots in everywhere...
I run that Karn in my colorless artifact commander deck.
It frustrates me when people say that this Karn is bad because he's just objectively good in artifact combo decks in GAS and CanLander (and commander if they'd unban paradox engine 😂). Like I understand those are niche formats, but he's good in specific strategies. He actually does relevant things, creates mana or is just a tutor, or WINS THE GAME in those style of decks.
That's precisely why this Karn is good in commander. He contributes, but he isn't a bullseye for the whole table.
I run Huatli in my Jedit Ojanen, Mercenary deck.
I run lots of cheap-ish legends, and each creates a 2/2 cat with forestwalk.
Huatli provides card draw.
This huatli was always one of the more interesting planeswalkers to me, just because of how fast she can ulgain loyality, the only real competitor in gaining loyality to this decree is one of the gideons. Also if you can make it happen both of these are funny with war of the sparks nicol bolas
yeah huatli is fine in lower power commander tbh
@@Shimatzu95 Grist is pretty good at gaining loyalty, you have to be a little lucky but the loyalty gain also does something so there's a reason to get it, plus its very easy to stack your library and make them gain a very large amount of loyalty very quickly.
I know someone who started collecting Tybalts upon release because "there's no way a planeswalker this cheap will be bad forever".😂
Heck, I preordered a playset of Kytheon, Hero of Akros because "He's a one mana planeswalker!" Except, the vast majority of the time, you'll need to use his three mana ability to keep him alive to be flipped, so really, he's a four mana planeswalker. And if you don't need to use that three mana ability, you were already going to win that game without flipping him. Still, his floor is being Savannah Lions until you're able to transform him, which makes him way better than Tibalt.
I have 348 of Tibalt the fiend blooded that I have been collecting since release 😅
@@dj20benn Do you happen to be in Tampa?👀
@@Bingcenzo nope
I mean, you can get a Jeska’s Will and play that broken Oathbreaker deck
Tibalt was my first pulled planeswalker and still have my copy in a binder. To this day he still has a soft spot in my heart as one of my favorite cards. One day I will make him good I swear! One day.
Can someone explain to me why Tibalt is so bad? I know I'm fairly new to Magic but aside from his low loyalty and being vulnerable for 4 turns to use his ultimate, drawing a card and discarding a card can be a really good strat. His second ability kinda sucks but it seems like a gamble on whether it'd be useful or not.
That ultimate seems pretty sick too, just don't lose him for 4 turns, counter spells, block, and have cards in your deck to draw back discards? Seems simple to me.
Either hes really not that bad, or these are opinions from professional players thay are on such a level of complexity I can't even comprehend it yet.
I left Magic in 2000 and came back about a year ago.
"Commander...?'
"Planeswalkers...?"
Lots to get used to!
Ohh boy! You have a mountain to learn! It's fine, a lot of new mechanics, a couple of new card types, and whole boat load of new art. You will love relearning it.
Wait until you hear about battles
@@DylanHilliard1 play on Arena a lot and have done the last two pre releases. Fun so far!
Thanks and have a great weekend!
@@_underscore_9271 those and adventures I am good on. On Arena I use battles in a red deck to pretty good effect.
I'd have a look at Commander, it's very casual and due to only letting a single copy of each card (except the ones you can have more than 1), you learn a lot of cards
I never see Ellywick Tumblestrum on any of these kinds of lists whom I've never even seen in a deck.
Very true. She deserves a shoutout. I wonder if folks forget or are being sticklers because shes not really a planeswalker lore wise.
Yeah, she's pretty dire, although this isn't entirely her fault. If OG Venture into the Dungeon was a stronger mechanic, then maybe, but when they buffed it later with the Undercity / Initiative, it wasn't backward compatible.
@@Snow_Fire_Flame Hard agree, dungeon was definitely an underpowered, seemingly draft-balanced mechanic.
I don’t know why but I like watching the prof talk about negative things. Worst sleeve to worst pw. Nice vid
Gerrard: "But they don't do anything!"
Hanna: "No- they do nothing."
I understood that reference.
You are legend for quoting that flavor text.
the 2 jace cards at the start were my first single buys. still remember finding the mind sculptor at my local card shop.
The art on the Chandra card is incredible! But, alas...
The one good thing about Hualti and Gideon’s ability to add counters based on number of creatures is that it actually would get doubled by doubling season effects, since it’s not a cost
While terrible on her own, Chandra Ablaze's -2 ability is actually insane if you have a Waste Not on board. You could potentially dump a bunch of 2/2 zombies on the field, create a bunch of black mana to cast the at minimum 3 cards you draw, and/or draw a ton of cards. Not to mention clearing out Josh Lee Kwai's full grip and leaving him with 3 cards in hand.
I like nekusar and Bralin/Shalazaz ( Maui and skyshark ) style decks and Chandra ablaze works wonders in them
Just cutting one or more opponents hand down in size is somewhat decent, but she really suffers from being overly cautiously designed and 2mv too high.
She is a bit expensive, but that's really her only problem. She enables Madness, you'll usually use her -2 asymmetrically (and again, for Madness, if possible), and her ulti is desastrous enough to keep her pulling punches that would otherwise go to your face.
@@Volkbrecht I think Prof. had to many bad experiences against her. There are worst that fit the criteria in the video.
@@Volkbrecht yeah I always evaluate from the commander side of things, so 6 mana is about where I start saying is this worth it, and if I am playing madness or discard for value she is a definite include. She is basically two Wheel of Fortunes only draw 3 not 7.
0:56 Hey now, "Gideon the Oathsworn" from one of those decks won me an oathbreaker tournament once
Decklist?
My tibalt tribal canadian tinyleaders deck is also cranked!
He's great in horsedog in commander too
C. Ablaze saw competitive play for a few months in Standard with Big Red & RDW, as a 1 to 2 of main/sideboard. That -2 against control was basically: Draw 3, Opponent Discards 4.
If it wasn't for the fact Jund was still the best deck at the time and Caw Blade was on the horizon, it might have gotten some more recognition.
There's just not much LGS and Minor Tournament data online from that era of standard.
That's what I was thinking: you discard your probably empty hand and draw 3, while your control opponent discards their hand full of counterspells and removal and draws 3. It's one of those effects that looks symmetrical, but really isn't.
@@therealax6yeah how do you figure you are going to resolve a 6 mana planeswalker against someone with a hand full of counterspells lmao. This use case honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you really think about it.
Like as RDW you want to try and go underneath the control deck and and kill them asap, trying to out-grind a control deck with RDW is a fool's errand..
I use Karn Living Legacy in my Urzas Battlethopter deck and it does very well for me. Granted i have ways of generating a lot of mana so i can pump 5-10 mana into the -1 and still have mana left over to cast whatever i get.
I have that karn in my saheeli deck.
Yeah and with infinite mana he can win you the game by looking at your whole deck and grabbing whatever combo piece you need to win. He's definitely not useless just extremely niche in his use cases.
I like that karn in my saheeli the gifted deck. Getting a free mana rock every turn is nothing to sneeze at.
I definitely played Jace's +1 as "Put the other card into your hand". It was real awkward when my friend pointed out it didn't work like that
You know, it's nice knowing that most of the worst planeswalkers were just design experiments that got improved upon later
I love you professor!!!! Elspeth is a planeswalker that to me is a kill on sight, espy because I always run Elspeth when I can
Honestly, that Chandra seems like she'd go crazy in a madness deck. Discarding is just an upside there
Most madness effects still cost mana.
So what. It belongs in mono red anyways, why care about the mana cost?
As someone who only dabbles in magic occasionally I think planeswalkers as a mechanic is some of the coolest stuff in TCGs.
The “super friends” or whatever style decks are always the ones I gravitate towards the most when I play.
I'm not gonna lie Hautli on the second slot is decent actually alright, not the most impactful right away but she's good. I would have put other planeswalkers here but that's just me being biased since I've always have a really good Huatli whenever I play her obviously you need set up but in decks that have that strategy won't discount her.
My main deck for commander is a Nicol Bolas themed super friend deck (more of a legion of doom).
So for me, this was a fun video. Proud that none of the 5 are in my deck.
Ahhh Number 4 hurts lol.
Had her in Gishath for a long time, get a lot of Loyalty, downtick to kill with a Second Gishath attack, and make sure Gishath also kept my hand filled for late interaction.
she's definitely my favorite lady in Magic.
Sadly i did bite a bullet and took her out eventually.
Come on Prof you know you remember when they weren't a fixture of magic sometimes I kind of miss those days
They've only been printing one a set recently and I've been liking it, especially in limited. They are nice but I was able to beat someone who had a Kaeya on board for 8 turns just a couple days ago.
I always miss those days
I'm gonna let you in on a secret with Huatli here, Prof: token decks. She's amazing in my Rhys-deck.
Wow! Huatli? I run her in a token commander deck, and its quite awesome! Of course, its quite a niche case, but its awesome. You play it with 5 or 6 token creatures, use the +1, gets to ult range, and your tokens will probably help her survive one turn. Can also be played as a finisher. I think that the floor with this planeswalker is really low, but also the ceiling is extremely high
Agreed. I have her in a rabbit/token tribal commander deck and she’s a lot of fun to play. Can get crazy high loyalty turn one and then get you a bunch of cards turn 2
Have you ever enchanted a Gideon, Champion of Justice with Teferi's Talent?
Turns into a big indestructible creature whenever it's attacked, and gain loyalty whenever it isn't.
the sponsor ad in this video is so awesome prof! Thanks❤
Gotta disagree with huatli for commander reasons. She generally takes 1 turn to reach the ultimate, and then the card draw engine is essentially a far better beast whisperer that can't be removed (since its an emblem). You mentioned the original chandra, and that would likely be my replacement for huatli, OG chandra is essentially just a slow, terrible board wipe if you can even get to her ultimate
VALIDATION!!!!! When Jace, Living Guildpact was spoiled, I was told he was broken. Like people tried to convince me that he was a playable card, because “you got to see two cards! And throw that flashback card into the graveyard!” Terrible card and I’m so glad I never played him.
That sounds like every preview season I ever paid attention to, though.
Back when Chandra Ablaze was new, I had a lit of fun with her in Standard on MTGO. Made a whole Naya superfriends deck that was basically ramp and board wipes, + Elspeth and Garruk for board position, all building to casting 1 or 2 Violent Ultimatums and then recasting them with Chandra's ult to blow up the opponent's mana base and whatever else I had spare targets for.
I remember when tibalt was getting a VS deck ad getting really excited about it. Finally we were going to see how WotC thought the card should work and what shell… I ended up disappointed.
Very glad I backed my Cubeamajig, I actually happened to have just bought all my remaining cube cards and am working on sleeving filling up the Podamajigs today!
I'm a bit surprised Nissa Revane isn't on this list. Huatli can be useful in a Commander token strategy. Nissa was made for Elves, and you'd likely rather run any actual elf card in place of her.
she won a scg tournament!
Gonna defend Huatli here real quick. It's the only one I disagree with.
Huatli's emblem is NOT Glimpse of Nature. The key point here that the Prof completely wiffed on is the fact that Huatli's emblem (and uptick as well notably) counts TOKEN creatures. Almost every other "creature enters, draw card" effect specifically carves out token creatures except for Huatli's emblem. Huatli's emblem, unlike most of the effects as well, is OPTIONAL card draw, so you have significantly less risk of simply decking yourself off the value.
You say not to evaluate a plainswalker by it's ultimate, but there are several plainswalkers (including this Huatli) where they have so much loyalty generation that it seems unfair not to account for an ultimate within the power level. There are games where I've ulted Huatli multiple times in a single game.
Huatli is one of the few plainswalkers that shine in commander, as she is one of the few that can generate such a large amount of loyalty that it is unrealistic to even try to kill her.
There is a reason that Huatli (at ~$20) quadruples the price of the second most expensive plainswalker on this list, which is weirdly Chandra Ablaze (~5).
Huatli is really nice in commander, strictly because her emblem works with token generation unlike mosy other card advantage cards. Rite of Harmony is usually a better choice now, though.
when prof introduced number 2 it made me very nostalgic for some of the very first videos he made as the voice sounded the same as he sounded 10 years ago
That Chandra found her way into my Nekasur Commander deck. That discard and three card wheel easily fucks with opponents.
One I was expecting to be on here but isn't: Venser the Sojourner. I loved playing decks built around janky mini-combos with him, but he is such a "win harder" commander, and he doesn't even really have a cohesive identity to build a winning strategy around. His +2 is about rebuying ETBs, but his -1 is for swinging in big with small creatures? And his Ult is strong but nowhere close to immediately backbreaking like pretty much every Planeswalker of the time was.
Chandra Ablaze worked decently well in my Rakdos Discard deck
*grasps my Gideon, COJ close to my heart* “shhhhhh, it’s ok. The video’s over, he can’t hurt you anymore.
I'm baffled by the Huatli take, like that is literally the best Huatli even when compared to other Huatli's I think he underestimates how often you can get into big stalemate fights with big boards and how effective she is at helping you win those fights. I mean her minus 1 is literally a game winner for 4 if you already have the board set up and have trample.
Love ya prof, glad I got to see you at magic con!
Glad to see so many comments supporting Huatli, I personally built a Oathbreaker deck with Huatli which is a format I am sure this list doesn't consider, but could easily shine in a token based deck in other formats. Can be protected with things like Teferi's protection and Clever Concealment, which are just good cards for protection anyway. I also like to put a huge number of loyalty counters and then equip Huatli with Luxior, Giada's gift and swing for big damage.
I feel like the Jace ability meant to say "and put the rest into your hand" at the end but somewhere along the way they flubbed it and no one caught the mistake until it was too late.
That said, I think he'd actually fit quite well in a recursion deck, being able to cheat large boys into the graveyard without casting them comes in handy sometimes.
I remember managing to pull off Sarkhan Unbroken's ultimate a couple times....So fun
Everytime i hear
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And then the monotone voice of the eldrazi titans.
I know my day is a bit more relaxed
Prof. Lewis, we need to talk about WOTC sunseting Portuguese cards and how awful it is for places like Brazil to wither
Can confirm: Those Cubeamajigs and Podamajigs are awesome. High quality materials and beautiful art.
It's hard to believe that these 5 terrible Planeswalkers are Mythics. Thank you for the video Professor.
My first planeswalker was Chandra Ablaze. I was so excited to pull it in a pack. If only I knew just how awful that card was lol
I have the Jace, Chandra, and Huatli in a planeswalker cube list where the rule is that you can’t attack or target a player if they have a planeswalker on the battlefield. Other unique rules is that there is a limited amount of basic lands that everyone plays from (other utility lands are in the deck) and players use a shared library, graveyard, and exile. Owner’s hand can be any player’s hand.
What's funny is that there was an Ajani from those planeswalker decks that actually *was* standard relevant! It made an infinite turns combo with Timestream Navigator.
Little did we know, this entire video was made since he was the only one without a cosplay in the planeswalker video
Wym? He's clearly cosplaying Urza in that video lol.
16:47 I'm pretty sure I single-handedly got Wizards to fix the Oracle listing for Null Rod. Without the Romanized text, the meaning of Hanna's response changes. However they originally digitized the card's flavor text removed the nuance and thus the meaning. I petitioned three different ways, and now it's correct.
Edit: It was fixed last time I checked. Now, it's back to being wrong. Thankfully (?), Scryfall has it right, but only if you look at the Weatherlight version. (This became important to me because they reprinted it in Vintage Masters incorrectly.)
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The link in the description is NOT to the video in question.😢
Best way to use Gideon is to basically run Oath of Teferi and extra turn spells to use the +1 ability, cast a Teferi's protection, and then ultimate.
It's a magnificent damage sink in commander, and the animation scaling off of loyalty can make it a really strong finisher with a source of evasion
The Ult just doesn't happen without shenanigans
Great video Prof! I imagine opening one of these planeswalkers and trying to convince myself is good, by the way a video on wasted art or awesome card names on bad cards would be cool too! I mean Gideon champion of justice, Karn living legacy and Chandra Ablaze are cool names but they are stuck on bad cards.
Awe Man Gideon Champion of Justice is a personal favorite Gideon Blackblade is arguably worse.
Huatli put in some work for me back in her Standard time, thanks to Hidden Stockpile shenanigans. Specifically played her for going big, which the deck lacked. It had removal down, but really needed a good "crack back with the one non-sick token" option. Really niche for sure.
I miss that deck, but not the second box of tokens I had to lug around.
I’ll never forget my first one. Sorin Markov. Just loved him so now he’s my favorite character
The worst planeswalkers are the ones that exist after the mending
Kinda funny that you get a sponsor from the thingamajig guys. I was just binging your is it worth it series and was interested in getting animated tokens. But now they only sell animated dnd spells and tarot cards, along with these cube boxes which are neat but really not what I was looking for ofc lol. Just serendipity
My favorite thing about playing Tybalt is I get to roll my dice!
But yeah, he's basically a wasted slot. -a 'distraction', if you will.
Gideon was my first Plainswalker i got in a booster deck...god did i tried to make him work and never could, being blind by the fact he was a Plainswalker and therefore i believe he was automatically good...At least my next Plainswalker were Domri who was broken and Elsphet which ruled control white, blue and black decks !! Good times !!
Now, this Gideon is awful. But sometimes in low-mid power commander people just kinda make 40+ (or 4 thousand+) token creatures without haste, in a “board wipe or I win” situation. Pretty sure him+chain veil would be pretty sick in that situation, gain 4000+ loyalty and wipe the board, keeping a ton of loyalty for further turns
He can gain the 4000 loyalty counters the turn you play him, but you need another card to wipe out those creatures before your opponent's turn or they'll just attack and kill you for sure.
@@PassGoGames that’s why I mentioned chain veil, allows him to activate a loyalty ability twice per turn (and is a card you might already be playing in super friends/planeswalker decks)
I'm using Karn in my Brudiclad deck - provides both some ramp to cast my commander and eventually, after Brudi gets to the battlefield, all those mana rocks become creatures
I used to win so many Standard games with Gideon Champion of Justice back during RTR/Theros standard. I ran him as a one of in a blue white control deck built around Sphere of Safety with Dictate of Kruphix being my main win condition. My opponents would just dump creatures onto the board that they couldn't attack with just because they didn't want to discard them. A single uptick followed by a Supreme Verdict usually got me there
I pulled off the Gideon Ultimate ONCE and it was the most hilarious thing XD
did you still have gideon around afterwards of was it just "destroy all permanents"?
I’ve pulled off Gideon ult multiple times. He’s one of 5 finishers in my All Walls/Maze’s End deck. He’d safely get to 25 loyalty behind walls and then randomly two shot kill players. While they’re figuring him out, Blight Piles or Vent Sentinels are burning. I’m sure he’s gotten a lot worse with the destroyer target PW spells though
I will say Karn, Living Legacy is useful in some formats as an infinite mana outlet. In that situation he's a colorless tutor.
I'm going to disagree with your analysis of Huatli- the key is that she doesn't say "nontoken". She'll get to her ultimate with a cast+flashback of Lingering Souls, for example, and if you get her ultimate, that same spell will draw 4.
I'm not saying she's good, she's not, but in a dedicated tokens deck it's not the worst decision.
I remember my first experiences with plainswalkers, and how they were considered trash by everyone around me because of how easy they were to just get rid of, they effectively wasted a turn for no payout.
I once made a Feldon of the Third Path deck with Both Chandra Ablaze AND Original Tibalt. They where actually pretty good as the whole point of the deck was to quickly get everything in my hand in the graveyard. That Tibalt was a Foil Tibalt as well. One i traded away the Grizzlebrand i opened to my friend. We're not friends anymore.
I once had that exact Gideon as a 20/20 swinging with the equipment kusari gama so it was take more than half your life, or lose your board. Was super fun
In OG Tibalt's defense though, his ultimate, plus Hellion Eruption looks like quite a wicked combo for commander, if you can pull it off.
Gideon CoJ is my favourite planeswalker card of all time, and my favourite card overall, Theros’ Hundred-Handed One, is one of his best friends. I ran them both in my first ever commander deck, it was Avacyn, Guardian Angel and it was an amazing time.
If Chandra Ablaze were 4 mana instead of 6, I would definitely use her. But only in my Anje Madness commander deck.
In that deck she would be pretty sweet jank honestly. But at 6? Yeesh 😬
My question on the very first card, is; wouldn't that Jace work decently well in a Dimir deck? Pull what you actually want out of your grave maybe? And also, does his -3 only work on the battlefield or could it 'target' something in the grave?
There are several of the Intro deck Planeswalkers that are solid in Commander, mainly because their overcosted nature doesn't matter quite as much there as it would in formats like Standard. For instance, Nissa, Genesis Mage, her +2 and -10 abilities are both really good, and her -3 is useful.
The funny thing is, probably my favorite deck I own is a Brawl-style (60 card highlander) sliver deck with Huatli, Radiant Champion as the commander. I'm sure there are a bunch of better choices, but I kinda love her. XD
4:03 you can also fit a 720 cube but the lands have to be in a different box
I kinda like Karn, Living Legacy in my Karn,Legacy Reforged deck.
I do get why that is a very specific situation however.
@TolarianCommunityCollege - Prof, would you be able to comment on the recent announcement of WoTC discontinuing translated cards to Portuguese (and other languages)? What is your view? For us, those news are another devastating round from them. Although we have a thriving community, top players all around the game’s history, some facts include that MTG has always been more expensive here; Wizards closed their regional office; now no translations mean zero means for our LGS to attract newcomers.
Many magic the gathering players are asking why wizards won't translate anymore their products to Portuguese.
Their player base in Brazil will only decline with this poor decision.
WotC deserves to be confrotated with the nudes of Vampeta.
They deserve the Vampetaço.
There are some ways to build around that Chandra (Madness cards, punishing opponents for drawing cards), but unfortunately that all goes out the window when you have to pay 6 mana.
Liliana of the Dark Realms and Sarkhan the Mad come to mind. Liliana does at least... draw you a swamp and maybe removes a thing if you really are only playing swamps, but the low starting loyalty and the fact that her middle ability kills her if you don't at least spend a turn getting a swamp is awful. Sarkhan is just... incredibly self-defeating? but I guess he has seen play, so... what do I know?
Might not be the best use of my time, but I run LotDR purely for the get a swamp card ability/the art.
@@registereduserand that's honestly rad. I like when players find uses for things others might think are hot garbage.