I hope you have figured this out by now since I see this video is a year old but I just stumbled across this video and coincidentally ran in to the same exact problems yesterday. Here is what I learned and how I finally got it to work somewhat perfectly. 1. For the parametric modeling to work when you move/copy a component, you have to use the joint command to move the part where you want, not just enter the value in the move screen. This will then move the parts as you want them to when you change the parameters. 2. For the BOM, only subassemblies can be added to a parts list table on a drawing. So for instance, in your model where you have the sub assemblies split up between drawers,side,top,etc. you have to individually add these to the drawing one sub assembly at a time. This takes a few clicks but you can get multiple sub assemblies parts list on one drawing. (You can delete the picture on the drawing once you input the parts list table) Also for parts list, for it to list quantities greater than 1 of something, it must be copied in the model (I.e., after the “:” in the name of the component, it has to have a 2,3,4 etc. like “leg:1 and leg:2”. Not “leg (1):1 and leg (2):1” 3. Unfortunately fusion 360 is not really designed for woodworkers (hence why there is no quick and easy way to make a cut list diagram for plywood, for instance) you have to think about things from a manufacturers standpoint. Most manufacturing companies would have all their parts saved in fusion under their part numbers and would input them into drawings and call them subassemblies. So if they input an engine into their model to make a car, they don’t want to see every single part that makes the engine come up on the parts list, all they need to see is engine, quantity 1. Hope this helps if you didn’t know this already!
Hi Greg. Thanks for the comments and feedback. Recently I started using OpenBOM but it has some of the same limitations. I get why it works this way, but it's just not how I approach modeling. But as you point out, there are work arounds, so it's not too terrible. Perhaps I'll attempt to learn SketchUp to see if assemblies like this are easier. I tries years ago but gave up because I found fusion easier to use. Thank again!
Agreed - but I believe in Fusion 360, Components are the equivalent to subassemblies, which is why the BOM function works that way. But that's not how I design some things, so it's pretty frustrating.
Are see I like to break down my assemblies, sub assemblies, and components. And thanks to your help I figured it out. You can make the body from your sketch, then turn it into a component, then copy that component to the assembly or sub assembly. This way your assembly drawing will show a quantity of 1 for that sub assembly(say your bench legs), but your construction drawing Will show 4 components(legs) of that assembly. And your model stays organised 😁👍
True if you just want a single top level drawing it can be frustrating. I produce assembly -> Mechanical -> Workshop drawings as training material to simplify the manufacturing process for my students. I have my project model, that becomes my assembly drawing, then each group of parts that needs manufacturing is an assembly, ( i used to leave it as a body under the assembly group, but thanks to your video i'll stop being lazy on that one :) ,) Copied as a sub assembly under the assembly group for the number of like parts needed. That becomes my Workshop drawing. Then if there are more components on sub assemblies they can be constructed under each sub assembly, ( Sub-Sub Assemblies if you like, however I will try this out on the drawings later.) At 2 levels, Assembly drawing (Project,) and workshop drawings( Assemblies,) It's doing exactly what i want with the quantities. I suspect that constructing sub, ( sub,) assemblies, under each sub assembly, will give another level of manufacturing drawings with the part, assembly, sub assembly, and component quantities all neatly contained to their own drawings. also worthy to note is that when organised this way, you can turn the components within each assembly group on and off in the drawing and your BOM quantities wont get messed up, so if you only want to display 1 of your 4 legs for manufacturing that's all you see, but the BOM still tells the fabricator that 4 need to be manufactured. Probably hard to follow all the sub sub subs ..hahahha...would make more sense if you could see what I've done. Oh also, because everything is nested in the model where it usually would be when you make changes it doesn't mess up everything else, :)...at least it hasn't yet :P
I think you should check out Lar's Christensen UA-cam video's, he is a master fusion 360 guy and he works for Autodesk too. I hope this will help you and I'd like to hit you up soon sometime for help placing my drawings into 360.
I hope you have figured this out by now since I see this video is a year old but I just stumbled across this video and coincidentally ran in to the same exact problems yesterday. Here is what I learned and how I finally got it to work somewhat perfectly.
1. For the parametric modeling to work when you move/copy a component, you have to use the joint command to move the part where you want, not just enter the value in the move screen. This will then move the parts as you want them to when you change the parameters.
2. For the BOM, only subassemblies can be added to a parts list table on a drawing. So for instance, in your model where you have the sub assemblies split up between drawers,side,top,etc. you have to individually add these to the drawing one sub assembly at a time. This takes a few clicks but you can get multiple sub assemblies parts list on one drawing. (You can delete the picture on the drawing once you input the parts list table) Also for parts list, for it to list quantities greater than 1 of something, it must be copied in the model (I.e., after the “:” in the name of the component, it has to have a 2,3,4 etc. like “leg:1 and leg:2”. Not “leg (1):1 and leg (2):1”
3. Unfortunately fusion 360 is not really designed for woodworkers (hence why there is no quick and easy way to make a cut list diagram for plywood, for instance) you have to think about things from a manufacturers standpoint. Most manufacturing companies would have all their parts saved in fusion under their part numbers and would input them into drawings and call them subassemblies. So if they input an engine into their model to make a car, they don’t want to see every single part that makes the engine come up on the parts list, all they need to see is engine, quantity 1.
Hope this helps if you didn’t know this already!
Hi Greg. Thanks for the comments and feedback. Recently I started using OpenBOM but it has some of the same limitations. I get why it works this way, but it's just not how I approach modeling. But as you point out, there are work arounds, so it's not too terrible. Perhaps I'll attempt to learn SketchUp to see if assemblies like this are easier. I tries years ago but gave up because I found fusion easier to use. Thank again!
Been looking for this for 2 days, wish Autodesk would fix this, they could use sub assemblies to fix the problem
Agreed - but I believe in Fusion 360, Components are the equivalent to subassemblies, which is why the BOM function works that way. But that's not how I design some things, so it's pretty frustrating.
Are see I like to break down my assemblies, sub assemblies, and components. And thanks to your help I figured it out. You can make the body from your sketch, then turn it into a component, then copy that component to the assembly or sub assembly.
This way your assembly drawing will show a quantity of 1 for that sub assembly(say your bench legs), but your construction drawing Will show 4 components(legs) of that assembly. And your model stays organised 😁👍
True if you just want a single top level drawing it can be frustrating.
I produce assembly -> Mechanical -> Workshop drawings as training material to simplify the manufacturing process for my students.
I have my project model, that becomes my assembly drawing, then each group of parts that needs manufacturing is an assembly, ( i used to leave it as a body under the assembly group, but thanks to your video i'll stop being lazy on that one :) ,) Copied as a sub assembly under the assembly group for the number of like parts needed. That becomes my Workshop drawing.
Then if there are more components on sub assemblies they can be constructed under each sub assembly,
( Sub-Sub Assemblies if you like, however I will try this out on the drawings later.)
At 2 levels, Assembly drawing (Project,) and workshop drawings( Assemblies,) It's doing exactly what i want with the quantities.
I suspect that constructing sub, ( sub,) assemblies, under each sub assembly, will give another level of manufacturing drawings with the part, assembly, sub assembly, and component quantities all neatly contained to their own drawings.
also worthy to note is that when organised this way, you can turn the components within each assembly group on and off in the drawing and your BOM quantities wont get messed up, so if you only want to display 1 of your 4 legs for manufacturing that's all you see, but the BOM still tells the fabricator that 4 need to be manufactured.
Probably hard to follow all the sub sub subs ..hahahha...would make more sense if you could see what I've done.
Oh also, because everything is nested in the model where it usually would be when you make changes it doesn't mess up everything else, :)...at least it hasn't yet :P
Interesting video, thank you!
I think you should check out Lar's Christensen UA-cam video's, he is a master fusion 360 guy and he works for Autodesk too. I hope this will help you and I'd like to hit you up soon sometime for help placing my drawings into 360.