I’ve done that trail 12 times. The last time probably three years ago. I have never seen that rock/water area (6minutes in). I have used lifted Tacoma‘s & Jeeps, also my 2021 Stock Tacoma. Did all bypasses find in stock. I had to build up a couple of rocks for the stair step area. Note to viewers always put your truck in 4low before you need it. This is the reason why. Beautiful area. Thanks for posting.
You probably already know this but to get into 4Lo after 4Hi is engaged, you need to be stopped and in neutral in order to get 4Lo engaged. It doesn't engage when you are in gear.
Ben Binnebose thanks for the info. I tried that and still didn’t work. Yesterday I was out in the desert trying to replicate it not going into 4L but it wouldn’t do it. It worked every time. Of course.
Getting into 4 low can be tough depending on terrain. You have to be stopped and put it into neutral. Sometimes will need some space to go forward and backward to engage/disengage especially if the surface you are on is comprised of rocks and such that will make it more difficult to lock in, or get out for that matter. It's why you should put it in 4 lo before you get to this point, meaning once you know you will need it and before technical terrain like this where rocks binds up your transmission.
Yeah very cool attitude there, my wife is like that too, lucky me, always in for an adventure, last trail she even said : ho, only that? HAAHHAA wouldn't trade here hahaha
Last time I was up that way I was on 28's (SXS) and I hit once. Now I have the 32's, we're going up the easy way and coming back the hard way in a couple of days and I'm looking forward to this!
I learned this yesterday. My TRD pro had those step nerf bars on them that I didn't want. Sweet little rock catchers they were lol. Well they're toast and coming off the truck today
@@dennycrane2938 Hah! Same thing happened to me on a trail in Colorado. I came across some large boulders and the next thing I know, I heard, "TING, TING!!!" Two of the steps popped right off!! and then about 30 minutes later, "TING!" Lost a third. haha. I knew the moment I bought the truck, this would happen. The dealership wouldn't let me buy without it though. It was "part of the package."
@@zachary1616 Same! I mean they take all of 5 minutes to uninstall but the dealership wouldn't do it to make the sale so I just took em. I've got some RRW sliders sitting on my garage floor that were delivered mid way through quarantine that I've been procrastinating on install... ha
Last Wednesday, 2/19, a Jeep JKU and me in my Jeep TJ came down the backway from CK. You are correct - it is in bad shape in places right now. JKU had 33" tires and I have 31" tires. With the Jeep's great articulation and slow and steady progress we both scraped belly skids only in one place. Articulation was the key to get thru the "creek trail" without any frame hits and that is where Toyota trucks have issues. Bigger tires, lifts, lockers are all band aids to fix the lack of articulation. Wheels in the air do not provide traction. Nice video. Look forward to more of your adventures.
I've got a 2018 and pushed those stock Goodyear's like you did. I'm impressed with this truck in stock form. All she needs is a simple lift, shocks and sliders.
Awesome video! Your wife seems so cool. She’s so supportive! I’m getting a Tacoma off road in the next couple of years once my lease ends on my current car. I can’t wait to take it on camping trips and hikes.
I just want to say thanks for risking it all to make this video. I got to say a few times there i was a little scared you might not make it out. But you did it. Wow.
We were in Sedona a few yrs back in our JK Wrangler doing some trails. We drove down to Crown King and I wanted to do the trail you did but didnt want to attempt it solo. Its still on my bucket list. The trouble is my Bucket List gets long faster than I can find the time and money to do the trails and visit the places that I want....
I once did this trail in my stock TRD off road last year with a raptor following me. I actually had to tow him up that rock ledge! This video brought back tons of great memories 😂 keep them coming.
Nice video. I ran this for the second time in my '17 Tundra alone at the first of November. I have a 3/2 lift and ended up both times with zero damage. Well done 👍
This was great. I'm really glad you posted it! Was looking to go up that track and found your video. I'll hold off till I get my lift kit and pats 😎 Hard to believe 2 years ago you had just hit 1,000 subs! Great work!
Kudos to you and the positive outlook of your wife. I enjoyed watching the capability. As I am preparing to purchase a Tacoma in the next 12 to 18 months, I learned a lot from you and your experience. I may very well go after the factory lift and pursue a set of rock sliders and get a spare set of mud terrain tires to swap out when I do go off-road. I plan on keeping the stock wheels and tires for the 90% of the time I will be on City streets and grass fields. The upfront investment should pay later as cost of labor and materials will likely only go up…
Love that you tried going all stock to begin with, it makes you appreciate all those mods sucking up dollars. I gotta say DOM rock sliders with kickouts are the most important first modification. Cheapest, least invasive, easiest to install and so protective from damage. Tires make a big difference but you get into needing body mount chops, suspension lifts, gears and wheels. Ah, why am I so attracted to expensive hobbies.
Maxwell Klinger haha it’s funny you say that. I have everything that you mentioned. Lift, 35” mud terrains, cab mount relocate, rock sliders with kick outs. I must have been reading your mind when building my truck out!!!!
I did this trail back in 07 on a 04 taco 4x4 stock on 32’s BFG All terrains ,never got stuck only high centered , the trail definitely looks more rugged now than it did before . I love that crown king area !
I just got me a Tacoma yesterday and I stumbled upon this video! you are guys are amazing trying to take put that stock into the test. Awesome job guys!
@@AdventureBuilt already did, gave me an idea, and that's what I love about your videos not only we enjoy the trips/adventures you guys do, but also how to make the ride even better thru your upgrade videos. Keep on putting out those fun contents!
This looks like the backroad to get to our newly purchased country cabin. Took my new 2021 SR exploring around the area and very quickly turned to a trail of tablerock and insanely high grass after a complete washout from the river leaving just mud and rock and a very steep incline. It was very fun for the short time I was on it and definitely look forward to exploring more! Stock trucks are more capable than people think and great video!
Yas thank you. I went with the Toyota for the reliability. I’ve had a couple wrangler 94, 04. Got my first Tacoma in 2013 and have not a single issue. Hoping the 2020 has the same reliability. Only issues that I cause from taking it crazy places!
Adventure Built that’s true! Even though 3rd gen Tacoma’s haven’t been as reliable as older Toyota trucks, they are definitely hella more reliable than any wrangler ever built!
So 4lo is a separate gear set in the transfer case, meaning, if it's in 4hi then you attempt to shift to 4lo while in neutral, the gear sets have to be lined up properly to allow it to shift. In a manual transfer case engagement, you wouldn't be able to due to physical interference where an electronic system will attempt to try it, then fail without the benefit of tactile feedback. If this is the case (where you were stuck it appears to be) you typically have to roll either forward or backward a few feet to allow it to engage. It's not a common thing but can occur. It likely happened to you in this spot, because you had load on the drivetrain as you got hung up. This load prevented it from shifting. If it happens again in this type of situation, back up a few feet, release the brake while in neutral and let it move a few feet, then attempt to shift to 4lo. If you're on a hill, shift to neutral, let it roll a few feet with your foot on the brake, then attempt to select 4 lo. That should remedy this issue.
Thank you so much for the information. I was hoping that would have been the root of my issue. I think you are right since I have never been able to duplicate the problem also because I have never been stuck where I could not move a least a foot. Thanks again.
some people say you oughta be on flat level ground to get to 4lo but as long as you pop it into neutral you can get it in. Ive done it while on a fat incline with full flex going on and sometimes a little roll back is needed to for "roll in" so the reduction gear set can link up.
I’m weary to do this trail in my stock ‘20 Trd off-road. Crackerjack mine was pretty fun! Tho no where near as intense of a trail, it definitely put my truck through it’s paces.
It’s all tires! Change those and the stock taco climbs every mountain. Unless it’s a jeep rock crawl trail. Those are just insande with the wheel base and articulation required
2 door jk with 33" tires and a sway bar disconnect would have shredded this trail. Don't get me wrong love the tacos but you can't beat the wheel base on those 2 doors. Also the straight axel comes in handy for the travel lifting a tire off the floor is what you want to avoid haha great vid!
I did it 3-4 times in the '90's in a stock '85 Toyota 4x4 but I think I had 30 inch tires. It looks like it may be a little harder on the Oro Belle Rd portion than it used to be.....and I didn't do any "optional" obstacles
Very impressed with the video. Also watched Schultz pass. You have a lot of potential. Do more actual offroading vids and I will be hooked. Just came back today from pushing my 4runner on a CO trail. Heading to AZ in the fall.
Thanks man. The off-roading and overlanding videos will be more and more but we have to build it first. Hitting CO very soon. AZ is great but like you said. Only in the fall and winter. Thx again.
My friend lives in Congress AZ, I spent the winter out there a couple times. I lived out there in the 80's and had done the Backway to CK back than in a slightly lifted Toyota pickup, the old solid axle one. Him and I did it several times in a stock Dodge Durango with BFG All Terrains in stock size, (31x10.5) and in my XJ with a 2" lift and 31x10.5's with a Spartan locker in the rear. This past winter I made it with my 04 WJ, 3" lift and 32's with the stock Vari Lok axles. And that one I drove out there from Michigan. It's a good trail but not really that tough.
@@AdventureBuilt Tires really do make a big difference. Knowing the trail as well as my friend does probably helped a lot also. I look forward to getting out there again with my WJ, it now has an Aussie in the rear and a Tru Trac in the front. Not perfect for the rocky trails out there, but the combo does work great in the woods and snow.
I pulled a single axel trailer loaded with camping gear up this way with my 2003 Yota prerunner. I shit you not. Now I didn't care about pinstripe, rock rash etc it's 17 yrs old. But 2wd with locker towing a trailer was achieved. It has 4 in suspension lift with 31" Copper 10ply tires .
I'm in Gilbert, and I have the same truck except it's a 2019, same color though! My Fuel Shok wheels arrive today, and the Eibach Pro suspension arrives tomorrow along with a set of Wulf AAL's, and some Cooper ST MAXX's. Can't wait to bolt it all up this weekend!
I definitely know where you’re coming from, did a bunch of wheeling with my stock Tacoma not the best thing in the world! however, if you air down to around 17 psi you really helps with traction. Awesome vid Btw
@@dad3562 Probably. Usually all I see is jeeps and tacos when you get to certain areas. I don't think you could go wrong with either one, but the taco reliability is unmatched.
Hey, just liked and subscribed to your channel because you done it with your wife. Awesome. My wife and I will be having the same adventure soon as well. I look forward to seeing what all you do to your rig. In the tough times, why didn't you use crawl control.
Bong Mike Khmer Tiger thank you very much. Crawl control only works in 4L which it wouldn’t go into. Weird issue that I haven’t been able to duplicate. Hopefully won’t happen again. Great things coming. Cheers.
I did this 30 years ago in my new 4 cylinder Mazda 4x4 - Holy Shit! Never again! I did experience a bonus at the end - saw an albino deer near the top. Four wheel drive trucks do have their limits and it's easy to get into BIG trouble!
Air down and hold the gas slightly so the computer has time to hit the break on the spinning tire. The other guy had better tires and looks like he chose better lines as well.
9:47 the absolute worse location to try and drive up this obstacle. Stay far right or what most everybody does now is the creek side on the far left. Live and learn. I, too, hate that the owner of the mining area has made the rocky section so hard to maneuver through - but it does cut down on the stock vehicles from attempting to go further up the trail and get more damage to the vehicle.
I would like to make a suggestion to you. It is always a good idea to go with a buddy so you have two cars. You never know what is going to happen. I see you did have another truck with you. Good going.
Lmao! You guys are awesome! Totally enjoyed your video... your wife rocks she was on it all the way ..Teamwork! My wife would have freaked out . Seriously though get you some Rock Sliders ! Congrats on new Taco it’s awesome 👍
good video. just some feedback on general off-roading. lift and bigger tires are not always the answer. driver skill can play a large part in whether or not a vehicle can make a trail obstacle. as its already been said in comments, air down your tires to improve grip, especially in slippery rock conditions. Work on throttle control during crawling as well, try to keep a smooth steady throttle once you pick a line thru the hairy stuff. get out and walk the line if you have to before attempting. I have a stock '17 TRD OR and made the same route without needing assistance (still made use of skid plates though, that's what they are for!). Great point at the end as well, NEVER off road solo unless your rig is setup for it. Even then its not the best idea. Would it have been easier with a lift and bigger tires, sure, but I definitely would not have learned what I have learned about my truck without running stock first.
Wow, that's crazy you did that whole trail in 4hi! Obviously I'm sure you know, having access to 4low, crawl, and the locker would have made so much difference. Even so, watching that Pro behind you was a great illustration of how much a difference good tires and a slight lift can make.
@@AdventureBuilt yeah, I recently watched your Ironman install video, and then this one looked interesting as well. I'm actually thinking of doing the Ironman foam cell lift on my 4Runner, so was doing research.
Yea man. I problem. I actually released a video on the gear swap that has the name of the shop in the description. I also went with the 5.29 gears. They are awesome. Miguel at Premier West Gears (949)836-9073 Cell#
Best way to learn how to four wheel is in a stock height rig like that. Couldn't tell you how many times I've run that road in the early 90's testing our builds.
The electronic transfer case won’t go into gear if there is too much torque on the system. You pretty much have to be level and in neutral for the transfer case to shift. I would rather have a mechanical system like the 4Runner.
I’m looking at a 2020 off road but hell no way I’m going to ride it on this type of terrain. Absolute craziness. This car ain’t cheap. Btw Tacoma is not a truck. It’s a car that can do more than a car
Thank you very much and I completely agree. The electronic transfer case hates when there is any pressure on the gears. I have to move to a more flat spot or play with it to switch. Kind of a pain.
If I remember correctly, you're 4lo wasn't working. Had to made a huge difference. Without 4lo, no crawl control. Which lift, size and tires size are you planning? 35? Regear? 4.88 or 5.29? Excellent video. I caught a comparison of a 20 PRO vs Ranger ... This was too notch compared to the other comparison.
Thank you very much. Yea the electronic transfer case doesn’t like to change gears under pressure. They like the flat ground. I have actually made a ton of upgrades to the truck. 3” lift, 35’s gears. The whole bit. Check out the newest video from Moab. It’s a entirely different ball game.
Subbed. This was very interesting. I used to own a lifted 2013 Tacoma SR5 with 285 70 17's and I just bought a 2019 TRD OFF ROAD stock and need to get it lifted and put some BF Goodrich KO2's on it. It is good to know what a stock Tacoma Off Road is capable of though. Buying some recovery boards very soon.
ScreamingSkullSaloon thanks man. I also own a 2013 Tacoma TRD Sport with a 2” lift and 285 70 r17. Just installed a 2.5” Eibach Pro Truck Lift System in the 2020. It was capable stock but ground clearance is king. Very soon I’ll have 35” tires on the 2020. Gonna be sweet!
Yes. The actuators will eventually seize up if you don't use them regularly. (ask me how I know). I shift mine twice a week. Every week. Same thing with the rear locker.
It’s all about gear ratio. 4Hi is the same gear ratio as when driving on the street. When you put it in 4LO you are changing gear ratio to lower gears which makes you drive slower with the same engine rpm’s. Imagine climbing a hill on a bicycle. The lower the gear ratio the easier it is to climb the hill. Same goes for a truck. 4LO also unlocks a bunch of traction control features on the truck. Hope this helps.
Very nice video. Strongly recommend Rock Sliders. Got them on my 5th Gen 4Runner Trail model and did Lippincott Pass in Death Valley by myself. There were many nail biting moments and hit the Rock Sliders a few times on pretty big rocks. No problem though. They were made tough. The exhilaration that comes after you come out of difficult obstacles successfully is why we do it.
Alvin Billey hello. I think that you are talking about the camper shell. In the US it’s called a camper shell or shell. In Australia and South Africa they are called Canopies. Please let me know if this is not what you are referring to.
I'm about 30 days away from getting my first 4x4 since the days you'd have to climb out and lock the hubs. I'll be getting a Tacoma for sure. What model is this?
@@ThePrezObozo , I don't even know you, but you're a funny guy! No, not so financially set, but I think I'm prepared. The trouble around here (SoCal) is finding a TRD Sport 4WD in the red color. Black or white is all that's available. I may have to wait for 2021 and be sure my insurance is paid up for the sticker shock.
I ended up getting the 2020 Tacoma TRD Offroad Premium Package. The Offroad has the rear locker and the Premium Package has the leather for longevity. I hope you pick up the same model. You won’t regret it, well maybe when you sign the check. After that though it’s all rainbows and cotton candy.
@@JeffGloverArts I wouldn't get the sport if you plan on doing any off-roading. Just get the TRD off-road, it's more capable from the factory. I spent months at several dealerships, watching videos and reading everything I could before I got my Tacoma last year. The off-road tacoma is awesome.
@@josha3891 , thanks, Josh! I came to the same conclusion, but went with the Sport because 99% of the time, I'll be on the road. The 4x4 will mostly be for ice, snow &, etc. Love it so far!
Thank you very much. If you haven’t been in the last couple years the trail has really changed. I hadn’t been in about 5 years and boy was I caught off guard with how hard it has become.
@@AdventureBuilt is been about 13 years so, I'd venture a guess that it's a bit different. 😅 Now that I've said the amount of time since I've been on that trail. It seems a bit ridiculous saying what I did. Great video. 👍
I have to say as a Tacoma owner. Hearing the scraping from the mud flaps is really daunting at first I wish they put a non plastic version of the mud flaps. I will remove the flaps next I go out.
You also might want to remove those stock hard plastic mudguards if you haven’t already, I snapped 2 of mine off the first time off-roading my TRD taco. The older soft ones are much better for off-roading, and honestly the truck looks far better without them
super fun. thats a lot of risk to take in damage to your truck when you can spend less than 3k for a 3" medium load lift kit and some trail grabber tires. Yall are awesome though what a fun trip!
It absolutely was a great trip. I was basically seeing how far I could push my truck in stock form. It is much more capable now. Check out some of the more current videos. Thx for watching.
You mention the other truck had 32.5 tires. Do you know exact size and brand/type. I’ve got a 2020 4Runner trd pro and garage clearance is an issue. Was thinking about going to a 275/70 (265 is stock) because I think a 285 will be too tall and hurt drivability.
Adventure Built Unfortunately not on the 2020. May have been the case on the 19. But I looked at my tires and they are 265s..nitro terra grapplers. Checked the spec on main Toyota website and it says 265 as well. I’m thinking a 275 /70 is a good compromise, but I’m limited on tire selection. Fortunately BFG has a ko2 in that size.
@ to 3:@t @t did they do it? Think about it.These guys risk there life for the making of this video. Also please watch @ to @ . What incredible 4x4 skills. Just incredible skills. Thanks for sharing such a talent and also the making of this very dangerous video. Unbelievable you survived. Your skills pulled you threw.The music also tells the tale of how they barely survived this whole ordea
Nice channel! I have a newer channel too and am looking to network with other upstart channels. About to start building up my Tacoma too (2018 off road). Gonna do tires soon and go from there. Will be curious to follow your build-up of this truck. Most of my content is bike based but plan to do some Tacoma content too. Subscribed!!
Jason I went with the Eibach Pro-Truck suspension kit. I just released that video. Did a cab mount relocation kit and some fender trimming. Picked up the Toyo MT 35’s on method wheels. They still rub a little, gotta do some more trimming. Check out the channel and see all the action.
Back way to crown king was the first trail I did in my new 2017 tacoma TRD Offrad. Solo. Was fun, definitely hit skids a lot and slid on the rock ledge section I slid into a boulder and scratched my rear drivers side door and dented the cab corner. Wouldn’t recommend doing the trail without rock sliders or solo but I was surprised with my truck’s capability
Had that problem about 4 low.....step on the brake really hard....there is a micro-switch of some sort that has to trigger.....just my 2 cents..... :-)
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I’ve done that trail 12 times. The last time probably three years ago. I have never seen that rock/water area (6minutes in). I have used lifted Tacoma‘s & Jeeps, also my 2021 Stock Tacoma. Did all bypasses find in stock. I had to build up a couple of rocks for the stair step area. Note to viewers always put your truck in 4low before you need it. This is the reason why.
Beautiful area. Thanks for posting.
You probably already know this but to get into 4Lo after 4Hi is engaged, you need to be stopped and in neutral in order to get 4Lo engaged. It doesn't engage when you are in gear.
Ben Binnebose thanks for the info. I tried that and still didn’t work. Yesterday I was out in the desert trying to replicate it not going into 4L but it wouldn’t do it. It worked every time. Of course.
@@AdventureBuilt I have a 17 off road that did the exact same thing when brand new the first day that I tried to engage 4 low. No problem since.
John St Peter I’m glad your Tacoma fixed itself. Hopefully mine never has that issue again. Cheers.
From what found out the gears have to be in just the right spot to engage 4lo. You were probably off by a little
Michael Williams exactly. If I don’t engage move vehicle a little bit and try again
These videos are the most extreme off road of the Toyota tacoma.
Definitely the limit of the Off-Road in stock form.
The TRD Offroad is surprisingly capable, it's all about the tires 👍
Getting into 4 low can be tough depending on terrain. You have to be stopped and put it into neutral. Sometimes will need some space to go forward and backward to engage/disengage especially if the surface you are on is comprised of rocks and such that will make it more difficult to lock in, or get out for that matter. It's why you should put it in 4 lo before you get to this point, meaning once you know you will need it and before technical terrain like this where rocks binds up your transmission.
You are spot on for the 4L!
True, it comes with experience. I'm guessing he was just testing the truck's stock capabilities at 4H...before the "Oh s***!" moment.
Dude your dog kills me hanging out the window at full attention like "the heck goin on here?". What a soldier!
Yea he is awesome!!!
Love your wife’s attitude during all of this!
I agree. Mine would be in a panic mode fearful of getting stuck and never seeing civilization again.
Yeah very cool attitude there, my wife is like that too, lucky me, always in for an adventure, last trail she even said : ho, only that? HAAHHAA wouldn't trade here hahaha
Last time I was up that way I was on 28's (SXS) and I hit once. Now I have the 32's, we're going up the easy way and coming back the hard way in a couple of days and I'm looking forward to this!
I learned the first upgrade are rock sliders if you go offroad.
I learned this yesterday. My TRD pro had those step nerf bars on them that I didn't want. Sweet little rock catchers they were lol. Well they're toast and coming off the truck today
Agreed, followed by rear locker if not already equipped! Lockers before lift!
@@dennycrane2938 Hah! Same thing happened to me on a trail in Colorado. I came across some large boulders and the next thing I know, I heard, "TING, TING!!!" Two of the steps popped right off!! and then about 30 minutes later, "TING!" Lost a third. haha. I knew the moment I bought the truck, this would happen. The dealership wouldn't let me buy without it though. It was "part of the package."
@@zachary1616 Same! I mean they take all of 5 minutes to uninstall but the dealership wouldn't do it to make the sale so I just took em. I've got some RRW sliders sitting on my garage floor that were delivered mid way through quarantine that I've been procrastinating on install... ha
@@theninja001 TRD Off-road and TRD Pro trims have electric rear locker
there was another adventure that began as a "3 hour tour"
Last Wednesday, 2/19, a Jeep JKU and me in my Jeep TJ came down the backway from CK. You are correct - it is in bad shape in places right now. JKU had 33" tires and I have 31" tires. With the Jeep's great articulation and slow and steady progress we both scraped belly skids only in one place. Articulation was the key to get thru the "creek trail" without any frame hits and that is where Toyota trucks have issues. Bigger tires, lifts, lockers are all band aids to fix the lack of articulation. Wheels in the air do not provide traction.
Nice video. Look forward to more of your adventures.
I've got a 2018 and pushed those stock Goodyear's like you did. I'm impressed with this truck in stock form. All she needs is a simple lift, shocks and sliders.
Awesome video! Your wife seems so cool. She’s so supportive!
I’m getting a Tacoma off road in the next couple of years once my lease ends on my current car. I can’t wait to take it on camping trips and hikes.
Thank you very much. She is pretty awesome.
Don’t make the same mistake I made. Skip the Tacoma and get yourself a Gladiator Rubicon if you intend on any serious off roading and want a pickup.
I just want to say thanks for risking it all to make this video. I got to say a few times there i was a little scared you might not make it out. But you did it. Wow.
Thank you very much. It was supposed to be a nice day out on the trail but we definitely got a little more than we bargained for. Thx for watching.
We were in Sedona a few yrs back in our JK Wrangler doing some trails. We drove down to Crown King and I wanted to do the trail you did but didnt want to attempt it solo. Its still on my bucket list. The trouble is my Bucket List gets long faster than I can find the time and money to do the trails and visit the places that I want....
Mistakes and oh s**t moments are part of the learning and the fun. Nice vid, subscribed!
I once did this trail in my stock TRD off road last year with a raptor following me. I actually had to tow him up that rock ledge! This video brought back tons of great memories 😂 keep them coming.
People get the wrong idea with Raptors and while they are great for the desert, technical terrain like this really hinders a full size rig.
That is awesome!
Nice video. I ran this for the second time in my '17 Tundra alone at the first of November. I have a 3/2 lift and ended up both times with zero damage.
Well done 👍
Thank you very much. Sounds like you nailed it. Nice one!!!
This was great. I'm really glad you posted it! Was looking to go up that track and found your video. I'll hold off till I get my lift kit and pats 😎 Hard to believe 2 years ago you had just hit 1,000 subs! Great work!
Yea pretty crazy. Thanks.
Kudos to you and the positive outlook of your wife. I enjoyed watching the capability. As I am preparing to purchase a Tacoma in the next 12 to 18 months, I learned a lot from you and your experience. I may very well go after the factory lift and pursue a set of rock sliders and get a spare set of mud terrain tires to swap out when I do go off-road. I plan on keeping the stock wheels and tires for the 90% of the time I will be on City streets and grass fields. The upfront investment should pay later as cost of labor and materials will likely only go up…
Very nice. You should totally check out the truck now. It’s completely different. If I were you I would wait for the 4th generation Tacoma.
Love that you tried going all stock to begin with, it makes you appreciate all those mods sucking up dollars. I gotta say DOM rock sliders with kickouts are the most important first modification. Cheapest, least invasive, easiest to install and so protective from damage. Tires make a big difference but you get into needing body mount chops, suspension lifts, gears and wheels. Ah, why am I so attracted to expensive hobbies.
Maxwell Klinger haha it’s funny you say that. I have everything that you mentioned. Lift, 35” mud terrains, cab mount relocate, rock sliders with kick outs. I must have been reading your mind when building my truck out!!!!
Did this trail in 2017 with a 02 4runner with a sagging rear end, that area at 9:50 mark was terrible. The creek was flowing a lot higher than too.
Nice. I have gone back with my truck built up now and it is much less stressful.
I did this trail back in 07 on a 04 taco 4x4 stock on 32’s BFG All terrains ,never got stuck only high centered , the trail definitely looks more rugged now than it did before . I love that crown king area !
I just got me a Tacoma yesterday and I stumbled upon this video! you are guys are amazing trying to take put that stock into the test. Awesome job guys!
Thank you very much. I have since made some serious upgrades to the truck. Check out the build videos. Thanks for watching.
@@AdventureBuilt already did, gave me an idea, and that's what I love about your videos not only we enjoy the trips/adventures you guys do, but also how to make the ride even better thru your upgrade videos. Keep on putting out those fun contents!
For a stock Tacoma it did it in style
This looks like the backroad to get to our newly purchased country cabin. Took my new 2021 SR exploring around the area and very quickly turned to a trail of tablerock and insanely high grass after a complete washout from the river leaving just mud and rock and a very steep incline. It was very fun for the short time I was on it and definitely look forward to exploring more! Stock trucks are more capable than people think and great video!
Thank you very much and I completely agree.
This was a great adventure indeed! Challenging terrain totally showed the capability of these trucks. Looking forward to your next video!
Good video! I think it convinced me to just go with the wrangler rubicon. More ground clearance, front locker, can fit 35” tires without lift.
Yas thank you. I went with the Toyota for the reliability. I’ve had a couple wrangler 94, 04. Got my first Tacoma in 2013 and have not a single issue. Hoping the 2020 has the same reliability. Only issues that I cause from taking it crazy places!
Adventure Built that’s true! Even though 3rd gen Tacoma’s haven’t been as reliable as older Toyota trucks, they are definitely hella more reliable than any wrangler ever built!
So 4lo is a separate gear set in the transfer case, meaning, if it's in 4hi then you attempt to shift to 4lo while in neutral, the gear sets have to be lined up properly to allow it to shift. In a manual transfer case engagement, you wouldn't be able to due to physical interference where an electronic system will attempt to try it, then fail without the benefit of tactile feedback. If this is the case (where you were stuck it appears to be) you typically have to roll either forward or backward a few feet to allow it to engage.
It's not a common thing but can occur. It likely happened to you in this spot, because you had load on the drivetrain as you got hung up. This load prevented it from shifting. If it happens again in this type of situation, back up a few feet, release the brake while in neutral and let it move a few feet, then attempt to shift to 4lo. If you're on a hill, shift to neutral, let it roll a few feet with your foot on the brake, then attempt to select 4 lo. That should remedy this issue.
Thank you so much for the information. I was hoping that would have been the root of my issue. I think you are right since I have never been able to duplicate the problem also because I have never been stuck where I could not move a least a foot. Thanks again.
some people say you oughta be on flat level ground to get to 4lo but as long as you pop it into neutral you can get it in. Ive done it while on a fat incline with full flex going on and sometimes a little roll back is needed to for "roll in" so the reduction gear set can link up.
Thx.
I’m weary to do this trail in my stock ‘20 Trd off-road. Crackerjack mine was pretty fun! Tho no where near as intense of a trail, it definitely put my truck through it’s paces.
Bravo Mike it is definitely an adventure. My buddy that is in the video dinged his rocker pretty good last month on crown king trail. It’s no joke.
Cool video. It looks like the biggest difference between your and Rhett's truck was those tires. His would grip where yours slipped.
Loud&Clear thank you. Rhett’s truck has a stock 1” lift over mine and has those 33” tires. Definitely a huge difference. You nailed it.
It’s all tires! Change those and the stock taco climbs every mountain. Unless it’s a jeep rock crawl trail. Those are just insande with the wheel base and articulation required
Recently did this trail in my 2019 Tacoma. Bilstein 5100's with 285/70/17 Ridge Grapplers air down to 20 psi. Got hung up on that same rock ledge.
Frank Jones happens to best of us. Won’t happen when I get me 35’s. Hopefully!!
2 door jk with 33" tires and a sway bar disconnect would have shredded this trail. Don't get me wrong love the tacos but you can't beat the wheel base on those 2 doors. Also the straight axel comes in handy for the travel lifting a tire off the floor is what you want to avoid haha great vid!
I did it 3-4 times in the '90's in a stock '85 Toyota 4x4 but I think I had 30 inch tires. It looks like it may be a little harder on the Oro Belle Rd portion than it used to be.....and I didn't do any "optional" obstacles
Very nice. I did it in the late 90’s with a wrangler and it was much easier then. I think the side by sides have definitely done a number to it.
Very impressed with the video. Also watched Schultz pass. You have a lot of potential. Do more actual offroading vids and I will be hooked. Just came back today from pushing my 4runner on a CO trail. Heading to AZ in the fall.
Thanks man. The off-roading and overlanding videos will be more and more but we have to build it first. Hitting CO very soon. AZ is great but like you said. Only in the fall and winter. Thx again.
My friend lives in Congress AZ, I spent the winter out there a couple times. I lived out there in the 80's and had done the Backway to CK back than in a slightly lifted Toyota pickup, the old solid axle one. Him and I did it several times in a stock Dodge Durango with BFG All Terrains in stock size, (31x10.5) and in my XJ with a 2" lift and 31x10.5's with a Spartan locker in the rear. This past winter I made it with my 04 WJ, 3" lift and 32's with the stock Vari Lok axles. And that one I drove out there from Michigan. It's a good trail but not really that tough.
charlie dee I agree it’s a great trail. If I had a little bit bigger tire it would have been an entirely different story. Cheers.
@@AdventureBuilt Tires really do make a big difference. Knowing the trail as well as my friend does probably helped a lot also. I look forward to getting out there again with my WJ, it now has an Aussie in the rear and a Tru Trac in the front. Not perfect for the rocky trails out there, but the combo does work great in the woods and snow.
I pulled a single axel trailer loaded with camping gear up this way with my 2003 Yota prerunner. I shit you not. Now I didn't care about pinstripe, rock rash etc it's 17 yrs old. But 2wd with locker towing a trailer was achieved. It has 4 in suspension lift with 31" Copper 10ply tires .
Damn, glad you did this in a stock tacoma! I went up there a few times in my side by side and it was a sketchy ride lol
I'm in Gilbert, and I have the same truck except it's a 2019, same color though! My Fuel Shok wheels arrive today, and the Eibach Pro suspension arrives tomorrow along with a set of Wulf AAL's, and some Cooper ST MAXX's. Can't wait to bolt it all up this weekend!
Badass kit. You will not be disappointed.
I use spend the summers jumping off an 83ft cliff into Lake Pleasant during college. You needed a serious 4x4 or boat to get to that spot.
Yea those spots are all closed to 4x4 now. Only by boat. Plus the lake is really low so may not be a good idea. Anyway that is still crazy!!!
Yall have a great spirit to you. I would have been sick, if it were me after that debacle. Body armor, sliders at least! Wow.
I definitely know where you’re coming from, did a bunch of wheeling with my stock Tacoma not the best thing in the world! however, if you air down to around 17 psi you really helps with traction. Awesome vid Btw
Is it safe to say a Tacoma can do 99% of what a Jeep can do off-road?
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Be more reliable doing so?
@@dad3562 Probably. Usually all I see is jeeps and tacos when you get to certain areas. I don't think you could go wrong with either one, but the taco reliability is unmatched.
Hey, just liked and subscribed to your channel because you done it with your wife. Awesome. My wife and I will be having the same adventure soon as well. I look forward to seeing what all you do to your rig. In the tough times, why didn't you use crawl control.
Bong Mike Khmer Tiger thank you very much. Crawl control only works in 4L which it wouldn’t go into. Weird issue that I haven’t been able to duplicate. Hopefully won’t happen again. Great things coming. Cheers.
My 14 trd offroad is a 6speed stick, it doesn't have crawl control. Do the newer ones have crawl control?
Mark Lundeen they sure do. Also have hill climb assist and sand assist. Pretty sweet.
@@AdventureBuilt that's pretty cool!
I did this 30 years ago in my new 4 cylinder Mazda 4x4 - Holy Shit! Never again! I did experience a bonus at the end - saw an albino deer near the top. Four wheel drive trucks do have their limits and it's easy to get into BIG trouble!
That is 💯 the truth. Thx for watching.
Air down and hold the gas slightly so the computer has time to hit the break on the spinning tire. The other guy had better tires and looks like he chose better lines as well.
Nice truck - you have a cool wife who was really into this. My wife would have killed me doing this off roading with my truck and its 15 yrs old
roxbery25 yea man she is pretty cool. I’ll keep her!!! Cheers.
I think it did great for a stock truck with no 4lo and locker. 👍🏻
@@canalesivany he couldn't get into 4L so he couldn't have had the rear locker engaged. That was all 4H, pretty impressive really.
Brave. Great video. Great couple. Great friends. Poor truck! But that’s ok, everyone is safe.
9:47 the absolute worse location to try and drive up this obstacle. Stay far right or what most everybody does now is the creek side on the far left. Live and learn. I, too, hate that the owner of the mining area has made the rocky section so hard to maneuver through - but it does cut down on the stock vehicles from attempting to go further up the trail and get more damage to the vehicle.
I would like to make a suggestion to you.
It is always a good idea to go with a buddy so you have two cars.
You never know what is going to happen. I see you did have another truck with you. Good going.
Lmao! You guys are awesome! Totally enjoyed your video... your wife rocks she was on it all the way ..Teamwork! My wife would have freaked out . Seriously though get you some Rock Sliders ! Congrats on new Taco it’s awesome 👍
good video. just some feedback on general off-roading. lift and bigger tires are not always the answer. driver skill can play a large part in whether or not a vehicle can make a trail obstacle. as its already been said in comments, air down your tires to improve grip, especially in slippery rock conditions. Work on throttle control during crawling as well, try to keep a smooth steady throttle once you pick a line thru the hairy stuff. get out and walk the line if you have to before attempting. I have a stock '17 TRD OR and made the same route without needing assistance (still made use of skid plates though, that's what they are for!). Great point at the end as well, NEVER off road solo unless your rig is setup for it. Even then its not the best idea. Would it have been easier with a lift and bigger tires, sure, but I definitely would not have learned what I have learned about my truck without running stock first.
Wow, that's crazy you did that whole trail in 4hi! Obviously I'm sure you know, having access to 4low, crawl, and the locker would have made so much difference. Even so, watching that Pro behind you was a great illustration of how much a difference good tires and a slight lift can make.
You are 💯 correct. It was wild. You should see the truck now. It’s totally different.
@@AdventureBuilt yeah, I recently watched your Ironman install video, and then this one looked interesting as well. I'm actually thinking of doing the Ironman foam cell lift on my 4Runner, so was doing research.
Love these videos and all your new stuff too. Keep it up!
Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
Too be very honest with you sir , I like the way how you handled n drive the stock tacoma !!
Pankaj Labhane thank you very much sir! Cheers
Hey brother. Ready to do 4.88 and front locker in my 2020 Pro. Could you please send me the info for the guys who just did your gears? Thanks so much!
Yea man. I problem. I actually released a video on the gear swap that has the name of the shop in the description. I also went with the 5.29 gears. They are awesome. Miguel at Premier West Gears (949)836-9073 Cell#
@@AdventureBuilt I check that video out as well. Thank you so much!
Best way to learn how to four wheel is in a stock height rig like that. Couldn't tell you how many times I've run that road in the early 90's testing our builds.
100%. I was lucky to make it out without damage. A buddy of mine just damaged his rocker panel there. It can happen.
We thought it was gonna be about 2 hours up to crown king from lake pleasant. It took close to 4 hours
Yea that trail is pretty challenging!!!
So why wouldn't it go in 4 low? And do you have rear lockers or A-TRAC? Of course if you can't get into 4 low those systems are not available.
The electronic transfer case won’t go into gear if there is too much torque on the system. You pretty much have to be level and in neutral for the transfer case to shift. I would rather have a mechanical system like the 4Runner.
I’m looking at a 2020 off road but hell no way I’m going to ride it on this type of terrain. Absolute craziness. This car ain’t cheap. Btw Tacoma is not a truck. It’s a car that can do more than a car
I have no comment for you my friend. I feel that you might be on an island.
Did you ever make it to 4L, I skipped some parts of your video.
Yes, but I skipped the middle part of your question! 😂😂😂😂
We're over in lake Havasu. New Ram 1500. We need to do a local meet n ride!
I've found that being on as flat a surface as possible will help engage 4 low. Nice video man.
Thank you very much and I completely agree. The electronic transfer case hates when there is any pressure on the gears. I have to move to a more flat spot or play with it to switch. Kind of a pain.
@@AdventureBuilt At least we know our trucks won't break down! :)
If I remember correctly, you're 4lo wasn't working. Had to made a huge difference. Without 4lo, no crawl control. Which lift, size and tires size are you planning? 35? Regear? 4.88 or 5.29? Excellent video. I caught a comparison of a 20 PRO vs Ranger ... This was too notch compared to the other comparison.
Thank you very much. Yea the electronic transfer case doesn’t like to change gears under pressure. They like the flat ground. I have actually made a ton of upgrades to the truck. 3” lift, 35’s gears. The whole bit. Check out the newest video from Moab. It’s a entirely different ball game.
Subbed. This was very interesting. I used to own a lifted 2013 Tacoma SR5 with 285 70 17's and I just bought a 2019 TRD OFF ROAD stock and need to get it lifted and put some BF Goodrich KO2's on it. It is good to know what a stock Tacoma Off Road is capable of though. Buying some recovery boards very soon.
ScreamingSkullSaloon thanks man. I also own a 2013 Tacoma TRD Sport with a 2” lift and 285 70 r17. Just installed a 2.5” Eibach Pro Truck Lift System in the 2020. It was capable stock but ground clearance is king. Very soon I’ll have 35” tires on the 2020. Gonna be sweet!
You got my subscription! Youve got the balls to do that on a stick taco. Makes me a productive owner. Excited to see the upgrades on the tacoma! 🙌🏽
Was the bed rack on the TRD PRO a DIY bed rack using unistruts?
really good video showing stock capabilities, rare view of extremes,, I'm ordering tires and a lift on the other browser tab lol
Very nice. You should look at some the newer video to see my truck now. Night and day from stock.
Stock got it done. Even a bigger tire and suspension will have issues as you hit that next trail, with a bigger rock, rut etc.
Have you been back since the lift and 35s?
JR Cook no but I definitely have a bone to pick with that trail. Gonna happen soon. Thanks for asking!
If you are not on a flat ground, then the electronic 4WD selector does not want to engage most times. Also consider engaging your 4Hi and 4Lo weekly.
Yes. The actuators will eventually seize up if you don't use them regularly. (ask me how I know). I shift mine twice a week. Every week. Same thing with the rear locker.
@@billmcc64 Is that also true of the Tundra's?
Did you use crawl control ever?
Haha not that trip.
Great video...very entertaining. A true honest feedback.
Can someone explain the difference of 4 hi and 4 low
It’s all about gear ratio. 4Hi is the same gear ratio as when driving on the street. When you put it in 4LO you are changing gear ratio to lower gears which makes you drive slower with the same engine rpm’s. Imagine climbing a hill on a bicycle. The lower the gear ratio the easier it is to climb the hill. Same goes for a truck. 4LO also unlocks a bunch of traction control features on the truck. Hope this helps.
Very nice video. Strongly recommend Rock Sliders. Got them on my 5th Gen 4Runner Trail model and did Lippincott Pass in Death Valley by myself. There were many nail biting moments and hit the Rock Sliders a few times on pretty big rocks. No problem though. They were made tough. The exhilaration that comes after you come out of difficult obstacles successfully is why we do it.
NothingLikeFreedom thank you very much. It’s definitely on the list. High on the list.
Awesome wife you got! You need to let her drive!
great job i don't have the balls to do that to my taco. you deserve a sub
Look at the Misses smile!! She had a riot!! Great job you guys!
What is that containment over the tray area called?
Alvin Billey hello. I think that you are talking about the camper shell. In the US it’s called a camper shell or shell. In Australia and South Africa they are called Canopies. Please let me know if this is not what you are referring to.
I'm about 30 days away from getting my first 4x4 since the days you'd have to climb out and lock the hubs. I'll be getting a Tacoma for sure. What model is this?
@@ThePrezObozo , I don't even know you, but you're a funny guy! No, not so financially set, but I think I'm prepared. The trouble around here (SoCal) is finding a TRD Sport 4WD in the red color. Black or white is all that's available. I may have to wait for 2021 and be sure my insurance is paid up for the sticker shock.
I ended up getting the 2020 Tacoma TRD Offroad Premium Package. The Offroad has the rear locker and the Premium Package has the leather for longevity. I hope you pick up the same model. You won’t regret it, well maybe when you sign the check. After that though it’s all rainbows and cotton candy.
@@JeffGloverArts I wouldn't get the sport if you plan on doing any off-roading. Just get the TRD off-road, it's more capable from the factory. I spent months at several dealerships, watching videos and reading everything I could before I got my Tacoma last year. The off-road tacoma is awesome.
@@AdventureBuilt Your taco doesn't have the new daytime running lights though. What am I missing?
@@josha3891 , thanks, Josh! I came to the same conclusion, but went with the Sport because 99% of the time, I'll be on the road. The 4x4 will mostly be for ice, snow &, etc. Love it so far!
Tacomas are just bad ass trucks. Good job, guys!
Thank you very much!!!
That was fun to watch, thank you.
Back way to crown king isn't that bad. I was in a samurai club and there were 2 stock Suzuki Samurai that made it no problem. Great run
Thank you very much. If you haven’t been in the last couple years the trail has really changed. I hadn’t been in about 5 years and boy was I caught off guard with how hard it has become.
@@AdventureBuilt is been about 13 years so, I'd venture a guess that it's a bit different. 😅
Now that I've said the amount of time since I've been on that trail. It seems a bit ridiculous saying what I did.
Great video. 👍
I have to say as a Tacoma owner. Hearing the scraping from the mud flaps is really daunting at first
I wish they put a non plastic version of the mud flaps. I will remove the flaps next I go out.
Pingdom absolutely. Mine are already gone.
You also might want to remove those stock hard plastic mudguards if you haven’t already, I snapped 2 of mine off the first time off-roading my TRD taco. The older soft ones are much better for off-roading, and honestly the truck looks far better without them
Yea those things are long gone. Thx.
I need a locked for my 2000 tundra. It’s awesome but a locker would be nice
super fun. thats a lot of risk to take in damage to your truck when you can spend less than 3k for a 3" medium load lift kit and some trail grabber tires. Yall are awesome though what a fun trip!
It absolutely was a great trip. I was basically seeing how far I could push my truck in stock form. It is much more capable now. Check out some of the more current videos. Thx for watching.
“It’s just money” haaaaa love it!!
Great video...I'm subscribed! I have a 20 Tacoma also, interested to see what mods you do!
Amazing video, keep them coming 👍👏
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it!!!
You mention the other truck had 32.5 tires. Do you know exact size and brand/type. I’ve got a 2020 4Runner trd pro and garage clearance is an issue. Was thinking about going to a 275/70 (265 is stock) because I think a 285 will be too tall and hurt drivability.
Lewis Dunn the other TRD Pro runs 285-75 R 16. Hope this helps.
Adventure Built
Unfortunately not on the 2020. May have been the case on the 19. But I looked at my tires and they are 265s..nitro terra grapplers. Checked the spec on main Toyota website and it says 265 as well. I’m thinking a 275 /70 is a good compromise, but I’m limited on tire selection. Fortunately BFG has a ko2 in that size.
Love that trail we’re headed up March 20
Nice man. It’s a great trail. Have a great time.
@ to 3:@t @t did they do it? Think about it.These guys risk there life for the making of this video. Also please watch @ to @ . What incredible 4x4 skills. Just incredible skills. Thanks for sharing such a talent and also the making of this very dangerous video. Unbelievable you survived. Your skills pulled you threw.The music also tells the tale of how they barely survived this whole ordea
Nice channel! I have a newer channel too and am looking to network with other upstart channels. About to start building up my Tacoma too (2018 off road). Gonna do tires soon and go from there. Will be curious to follow your build-up of this truck. Most of my content is bike based but plan to do some Tacoma content too. Subscribed!!
ElevationEveryWeekend thank you and sounds great. Subscribed. Can’t wait to see what you do.
What's the plan on suspension? Idk if you a tacoma person, but to get to 35s its a ton of work, including regearing.
Jason I went with the Eibach Pro-Truck suspension kit. I just released that video. Did a cab mount relocation kit and some fender trimming. Picked up the Toyo MT 35’s on method wheels. They still rub a little, gotta do some more trimming. Check out the channel and see all the action.
@@AdventureBuilt going to regear? Power w those big tires is gonna be terrible.
Jason it is the next big purchase. Very much needed.
@@AdventureBuilt 5.29s? Gonna do a front locker when u have it apart?
Jason that’s the plan.
Back way to crown king was the first trail I did in my new 2017 tacoma TRD Offrad. Solo. Was fun, definitely hit skids a lot and slid on the rock ledge section I slid into a boulder and scratched my rear drivers side door and dented the cab corner. Wouldn’t recommend doing the trail without rock sliders or solo but I was surprised with my truck’s capability
It has to be capable if not then what’s the point . Nice video !
Thank you very much. Totally agree.
Had that problem about 4 low.....step on the brake really hard....there is a micro-switch of some sort that has to trigger.....just my 2 cents..... :-)
Great info. Thank you very much.
@@AdventureBuilt You are welcome!!!! Great video!!!! :-)