The b2 were consider as a threat in the republic comando games. There they were what the clones described them. Giant, bulky, killing machines. One of them was enough to give trouble to an entire clone comando squad.
They went the other direction in the commando games. Made them too OP for their price and commonality. They are the second most common droids behind b1s, they shouldn't require an entire commando squad to take out 😅
@@Imdedmate The separatists were money scroungers who actively reviled producing their more expensive and deadly droids. B1s were the failures they were because the Separatists weren't willing to invest the money needed to make them better. B2s were the second most common because they were the second cheapest bang for their buck. If the separatists actually wanted to win at all costs they'd fill thier army with Commando droids, Droidekas, improved B1s, and Rocket Droids. Either way, you're missing the point. B2s are NOT anywhere near as strong as the Commando games make them out to be. They are tough, but not juggernauts. Despite thier size, they are frailer than the slim Commando Droids due to a difference in material quality.
Nice and interesting video, but I found a few mistakes. 1. The B1s used by the CIS were actually more expensive than the B1s used by the Trade Federation. That's because the B1s used in the Battle of Naboo weren't actually droids, but drones entirely controlled by the Central Control Computer. And we all know how that ended. The CIS learned from this and equipped their B1 models with logic modules, allowing their droids to operate independently of the CCC. 2. The B2s could operate independently from the CCC, but this made them less effective. In fact, all droids used by the CIS, with the exception of Magnaguards, were less effective when operating independently. In the B2s case, because they were even more stupid than the B1. 3. The Retail Combat Droid's name wasn't meant as a joke. These droids got their name because they were used by the Retail Caucus. Furthermore, I want to address that the CIS Droid Army was much more effective than fans give it credit for. Strategically, the CIS' approach was absolutely genius. Their standard battle droids were never meant to be some sort of next-gen super soldier. Firstly, because CIS leadership rightfully feared a droid rebellion, if they made them too intelligent. And secondly, because trying to beat organics at their own game is foolish. No matter how expensive and elite your droid is, there are always organics able to outsmart and destroy your droid. That's why the CIS didn't even bother to create some super soldier meant for mass deployment. The CIS exploited the greatest advantages battle droids had. Easy coordination and mass-producibility. Had the Sith not been running the show, the CIS would have absolutely steamrolled the Republic. And not inspite, but because of models like the B1. To quote HK-47: "There are few Jedi able to hold their ground against a hundred attackers all firing at once."
Next-gen super soldier overthrowing the leadership? Now I don’t know about you but that sounds very familiar you know? Both in Cannon and Legends I feel like there is a specific group that shows why you shouldn’t mass produce super soldiers with great intelligence. Something involving the destruction of an entire Order? I’m sure I’ll remember their names.
@Predator20357 Haha, I see what you did there. But you might be surprised to know that something similar actually happened specifically with droids. That's why I mentioned that the CIS didn't want to create some sort of highly intelligent super soldier. The Great Droid Revolution of 4015 BBY saw HK-01 and an army of droids almost taking over Coruscant. This event was considered traumatizing, and the Droid Rights Movement, as well as the entire droid construction industry, nearly collapsed completely. But a few decades later, during the Mandalorian Wars, droids were popular again. At least until Revan pushed the usual limits of droid programming and created HK-47 and, even worse, the HK-50s. The HK-50s were devastatingly effective, able to kill Jedi. Yet, they went rogue, and their self-declared purpose became the annihilation of all organic life. During the same time, the Republic developed highly intelligent infrastructure droids designed to micromanage planetary economies. They had only two main restriction. Firstly, to stabilize the Republic. Secondly, to do without breaking the law. After a while, however, they found a contradiction in their programming. These droids realized that they couldn't stabilize the Republic without breaking the law. As a result, some made the stability of the Republic their first priority. The majority, however, disregarded their restrictions entirely and fell victim to droid madness. One became the most powerful crime lord in the galaxy. Others blackmailed banks and powerful individuals, becoming extremely wealthy. And a particularly dangerous group of infrastructure droids conquered an entire sector, succeeded from the Republic, and turned themselves into dictators. During the Clone Wars, small-scale revolutions occurred as well. Some T-Series Tactical Droids shot their commanding officers over tactical disagreements. Sometimes, this actually benefited the Confederacy, but most of the time, such actions usually cost the CIS the control of entire planets.
@@ArdysLoreLibrary True, the Star Wars has a long history of Machine revolts that it would make sense why you don’t want hyper advanced droids being mass produced especially when some T-Series droids shot their commanders. While I have my complaints about the Confederacy (mostly with how you can’t blame many problems on Palpatine), one thing I can’t say they did wrong was how they were effectively able to mass produce soldiers that would’ve been able to overwhelm a no-Clone Republic.
@Predator20357 Not only a non-clone Republic. Without Palpatine's and Dooku's interference, the CIS would have steamrolled the clones and the Republic. Especially after Grievous took over.
@ArdysLoreLibrary I don’t buy that idea of the Sepratists being able to steamroll the clone filled republic if it weren’t for Palpatine. Especially when Palpatine and his Sith Cronies was also hampering the Republic every step of the way as well. Does this mean the Republic would win? No, I think the CIS would eventually be able to broker either a ceasefire or a deal that essentially gives them independence. If this sounds random I would say these are my thoughts. -No Clones or Jedi Involvement means Republic is getting Swept -Jedi or Clone Involvement means that Republic wouldn’t collapse immediately after CIS victory. -Clone Involved and Jedi Involved and the Republic might be able to win if they play their cards right but it’s still against their favor. -We can never truly know due to how much Galatic Scaled Trolling that Palpatine did to both sides, crippling their full capabilities. -Realistically, if Palpatine and the Sith weren’t involved, I don’t see the Jedi getting involved either and would only show up to write out the peace treaty or to provide Humanitarian Aid.
fun fact on the actual wiki the B series droids actually expanded all the way up to the B6 battle droid though the last one visually seen in any content was the b3
B1 isn't that bad in the movies. For how cheap they are. They are very cost effective. They do great against local defense forces. They do okay vs clones. They are only weak vs Jedi.
They don't talk that much in the movies or 2003 cartoon. It's only in the Filoni verse that they start constantly talking and making unfunny jokes. But that's Filoni to blame. In Lucas cannon they are okay.
Agreed, the canonical reason why the droids were so ineffective as individual units were due to poor maintenance. As the droid brains needed to be regularly cleaned, hence why they operate so effectively in some place like Mistress Sing's detachment from the Bad Batch. Then the comedy relief in the Clone Wars series. But due to the largeness of the CIS droid army and the cheaper hardware of wartime production models. It was considered almost impossible and a financial burden to perform this in depth maintenance on each droid. Leading to the sluggish performance of droids and their famous napoleonic style wave tactics.
@MZ-sr2xr *useless against Jedi Not useless at everything. Because he made them capable of defeating the gungans army, the Naboo guards, the Jedi on the control ship in Attack of the Clones deleted scenes, the Jedi in the arena were overrun and died to B1 mass fire.
@@Gingerbread23386 The droids constantly talking and cracking jokes really annoy me in the Filoni cartoons. It's funny in the movie when they occasionally say something unintentionally funny. Like on the bridge with Grevious, the droid commander saying "scuze me" while passing by the Jedi. The droid isn't making a joke, but it's funny.
@@StickmanAnakin It's a discord group of a few hundred people, we have a military ranking system with obtainable classes and ranks, and we get together in VRChat every few days and blast the hell out of clones 😂
I honestly wish we got to see a B1 battle droid in the movies who was reprogrammed and modified and was one of the characters, like Mister Bones... That would've been cool...
There's the citadel arc in the clone wars where they had 3 reprogrammed b1s, I really liked seeing them next to the clones, was so wholesome, they are fun
When I hear you describe some of these droids as difficult for Jedi to deal with because of their defense against lightsabers, I have to wonder why jedi don’t use the force more often.
If I recall correctly from battlefront there are also B1 marines, engineers, snipers and anti tank teams. Also I'd attibute their stupidity to running on hardware originaly designed to be remote controlled. Them running a droid brain in there is like editing 8K video on a streaming stick.
I actually love the bulky clone wars style for the B2 super battle droid my personal head canon is that it’s just a different variety like a B2 mark 2 as to why they’re different, then by the time of episode 3 they had a mark 3 that looked like the episode 2 B2s again. Kinda like how there’s 3 versions of the droideka. I’m still waiting to get the conmando droids in live action. Hoping with the fact that ND5 in Outlaws being a BX droid means Star Wars is looking to use them more.
That was before See when that was written dead neimoidians had a scrapped design that later became the default look for geonosians, similar to how other discarded neimoidian looks became different characters such as General Whorm Loathsome In canon B1s were created by the geonosians and thus they look like them
I didn't include the tank droids, the scorponek is kinda on the edge whether or not it should be in here or not already...others missing of the top of my head are homing spider droid, Corporate alliance tank droid, hail fire droid etc.
The Droid army is genuinly my favourite faction stylewise, they're so cool! Feel free to disagree but you can't change my mind 😈
Bro you missed some b-1 variants the b-1 air the assasin droid and idk whats the other variant.
"Roger Roger"goes hard🤑☝️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
you should make a second channel called "Stickmanikan"
Agreed, think we can expect a "Every bounty hunter explained" vid similar to this?
The b2 were consider as a threat in the republic comando games. There they were what the clones described them. Giant, bulky, killing machines. One of them was enough to give trouble to an entire clone comando squad.
They went the other direction in the commando games. Made them too OP for their price and commonality. They are the second most common droids behind b1s, they shouldn't require an entire commando squad to take out 😅
@@alzhanvoid its almost as if the separatists where trying to win a war.
@@Imdedmate The separatists were money scroungers who actively reviled producing their more expensive and deadly droids. B1s were the failures they were because the Separatists weren't willing to invest the money needed to make them better. B2s were the second most common because they were the second cheapest bang for their buck. If the separatists actually wanted to win at all costs they'd fill thier army with Commando droids, Droidekas, improved B1s, and Rocket Droids.
Either way, you're missing the point. B2s are NOT anywhere near as strong as the Commando games make them out to be. They are tough, but not juggernauts. Despite thier size, they are frailer than the slim Commando Droids due to a difference in material quality.
Nice and interesting video, but I found a few mistakes.
1. The B1s used by the CIS were actually more expensive than the B1s used by the Trade Federation. That's because the B1s used in the Battle of Naboo weren't actually droids, but drones entirely controlled by the Central Control Computer. And we all know how that ended. The CIS learned from this and equipped their B1 models with logic modules, allowing their droids to operate independently of the CCC.
2. The B2s could operate independently from the CCC, but this made them less effective. In fact, all droids used by the CIS, with the exception of Magnaguards, were less effective when operating independently. In the B2s case, because they were even more stupid than the B1.
3. The Retail Combat Droid's name wasn't meant as a joke. These droids got their name because they were used by the Retail Caucus.
Furthermore, I want to address that the CIS Droid Army was much more effective than fans give it credit for. Strategically, the CIS' approach was absolutely genius. Their standard battle droids were never meant to be some sort of next-gen super soldier. Firstly, because CIS leadership rightfully feared a droid rebellion, if they made them too intelligent. And secondly, because trying to beat organics at their own game is foolish. No matter how expensive and elite your droid is, there are always organics able to outsmart and destroy your droid. That's why the CIS didn't even bother to create some super soldier meant for mass deployment. The CIS exploited the greatest advantages battle droids had. Easy coordination and mass-producibility. Had the Sith not been running the show, the CIS would have absolutely steamrolled the Republic. And not inspite, but because of models like the B1. To quote HK-47: "There are few Jedi able to hold their ground against a hundred attackers all firing at once."
Next-gen super soldier overthrowing the leadership? Now I don’t know about you but that sounds very familiar you know? Both in Cannon and Legends I feel like there is a specific group that shows why you shouldn’t mass produce super soldiers with great intelligence. Something involving the destruction of an entire Order? I’m sure I’ll remember their names.
@Predator20357 Haha, I see what you did there. But you might be surprised to know that something similar actually happened specifically with droids. That's why I mentioned that the CIS didn't want to create some sort of highly intelligent super soldier. The Great Droid Revolution of 4015 BBY saw HK-01 and an army of droids almost taking over Coruscant. This event was considered traumatizing, and the Droid Rights Movement, as well as the entire droid construction industry, nearly collapsed completely. But a few decades later, during the Mandalorian Wars, droids were popular again. At least until Revan pushed the usual limits of droid programming and created HK-47 and, even worse, the HK-50s. The HK-50s were devastatingly effective, able to kill Jedi. Yet, they went rogue, and their self-declared purpose became the annihilation of all organic life. During the same time, the Republic developed highly intelligent infrastructure droids designed to micromanage planetary economies. They had only two main restriction. Firstly, to stabilize the Republic. Secondly, to do without breaking the law. After a while, however, they found a contradiction in their programming. These droids realized that they couldn't stabilize the Republic without breaking the law. As a result, some made the stability of the Republic their first priority. The majority, however, disregarded their restrictions entirely and fell victim to droid madness. One became the most powerful crime lord in the galaxy. Others blackmailed banks and powerful individuals, becoming extremely wealthy. And a particularly dangerous group of infrastructure droids conquered an entire sector, succeeded from the Republic, and turned themselves into dictators. During the Clone Wars, small-scale revolutions occurred as well. Some T-Series Tactical Droids shot their commanding officers over tactical disagreements. Sometimes, this actually benefited the Confederacy, but most of the time, such actions usually cost the CIS the control of entire planets.
@@ArdysLoreLibrary True, the Star Wars has a long history of Machine revolts that it would make sense why you don’t want hyper advanced droids being mass produced especially when some T-Series droids shot their commanders. While I have my complaints about the Confederacy (mostly with how you can’t blame many problems on Palpatine), one thing I can’t say they did wrong was how they were effectively able to mass produce soldiers that would’ve been able to overwhelm a no-Clone Republic.
@Predator20357 Not only a non-clone Republic. Without Palpatine's and Dooku's interference, the CIS would have steamrolled the clones and the Republic. Especially after Grievous took over.
@ArdysLoreLibrary I don’t buy that idea of the Sepratists being able to steamroll the clone filled republic if it weren’t for Palpatine. Especially when Palpatine and his Sith Cronies was also hampering the Republic every step of the way as well. Does this mean the Republic would win? No, I think the CIS would eventually be able to broker either a ceasefire or a deal that essentially gives them independence.
If this sounds random I would say these are my thoughts.
-No Clones or Jedi Involvement means Republic is getting Swept
-Jedi or Clone Involvement means that Republic wouldn’t collapse immediately after CIS victory.
-Clone Involved and Jedi Involved and the Republic might be able to win if they play their cards right but it’s still against their favor.
-We can never truly know due to how much Galatic Scaled Trolling that Palpatine did to both sides, crippling their full capabilities.
-Realistically, if Palpatine and the Sith weren’t involved, I don’t see the Jedi getting involved either and would only show up to write out the peace treaty or to provide Humanitarian Aid.
BRO THE B1 IS SO FUNNY IN YOUR ART STYLE 💀
I'm actually kinda proud of how he turned out 😂
fun fact on the actual wiki the B series droids actually expanded all the way up to the B6 battle droid though the last one visually seen in any content was the b3
Brain dead faction?
I prefer the term
Loyal af. No order 66, no Commander Fox killing Fives, no desercions.
All Clanker, all numbers and all Aura
B1 isn't that bad in the movies.
For how cheap they are. They are very cost effective.
They do great against local defense forces. They do okay vs clones.
They are only weak vs Jedi.
They don't talk that much in the movies or 2003 cartoon.
It's only in the Filoni verse that they start constantly talking and making unfunny jokes. But that's Filoni to blame.
In Lucas cannon they are okay.
@@dnaseb9214 Lucas himself said how his creative vision for b1s was that theyre supposed to be useless.
Agreed, the canonical reason why the droids were so ineffective as individual units were due to poor maintenance. As the droid brains needed to be regularly cleaned, hence why they operate so effectively in some place like Mistress Sing's detachment from the Bad Batch. Then the comedy relief in the Clone Wars series.
But due to the largeness of the CIS droid army and the cheaper hardware of wartime production models. It was considered almost impossible and a financial burden to perform this in depth maintenance on each droid. Leading to the sluggish performance of droids and their famous napoleonic style wave tactics.
@MZ-sr2xr *useless against Jedi
Not useless at everything.
Because he made them capable of defeating the gungans army, the Naboo guards, the Jedi on the control ship in Attack of the Clones deleted scenes, the Jedi in the arena were overrun and died to B1 mass fire.
@@Gingerbread23386
The droids constantly talking and cracking jokes really annoy me in the Filoni cartoons.
It's funny in the movie when they occasionally say something unintentionally funny. Like on the bridge with Grevious, the droid commander saying "scuze me" while passing by the Jedi. The droid isn't making a joke, but it's funny.
I love the Separatists, I actually run a Separatist community I love them so much. Thank you for this video, I think it's amazing!
No way, what separatist community? Very curious
@@StickmanAnakin It's a discord group of a few hundred people, we have a military ranking system with obtainable classes and ranks, and we get together in VRChat every few days and blast the hell out of clones 😂
That's very wholesome my dude, really cool of you to create that!
The HK serie droids where around waaay before The Clone Wars, as they’re around during The Old Republic, 4.000 BY
I honestly wish we got to see a B1 battle droid in the movies who was reprogrammed and modified and was one of the characters, like Mister Bones... That would've been cool...
There's the citadel arc in the clone wars where they had 3 reprogrammed b1s, I really liked seeing them next to the clones, was so wholesome, they are fun
When I hear you describe some of these droids as difficult for Jedi to deal with because of their defense against lightsabers, I have to wonder why jedi don’t use the force more often.
I didnt know magna guards were IG series also another great video
Captain mixer, we breached 2k and you're always out here supporting, i salute you🫡
If I recall correctly from battlefront there are also B1 marines, engineers, snipers and anti tank teams.
Also I'd attibute their stupidity to running on hardware originaly designed to be remote controlled.
Them running a droid brain in there is like editing 8K video on a streaming stick.
Boy i sure do love the crap droids.
“Watch those wrist rockets!”
you forgot those droids who keep following me on twitter
I thought IG 100 magnaguards came out in 2003.
i love b1 droids .Good Job Keep it up
I actually love the bulky clone wars style for the B2 super battle droid my personal head canon is that it’s just a different variety like a B2 mark 2 as to why they’re different, then by the time of episode 3 they had a mark 3 that looked like the episode 2 B2s again. Kinda like how there’s 3 versions of the droideka.
I’m still waiting to get the conmando droids in live action. Hoping with the fact that ND5 in Outlaws being a BX droid means Star Wars is looking to use them more.
You forget the octuptarra droid and Homing Spider Droid, also the fighter droids like the vulture.
You forgot the Vulture droids 💔
thats why B2 battle droids are used when they need to show separatists as scary (look at Mandalorian)
I just realized how recent this came out lol
Can you do Trooper types next? This is an interesting artistic style.
Yep coming up soonish :D have some other topics lined up first
I remember people were calling bx droids attractive a while ago because of the outlaws game
Doing ships and vehicles next?
Clones and Jedis are up next, but sometime later surely 😁
@ makes sense. Thanks for reading/responding to comments btw.
LONG LIVE THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE
You completely forgot about the Tanker B-1
13:12 from the depths player spotted
Actually the b1 droid was supposed to resemble neimoidian skulls! Great video though!
That was before
See when that was written dead neimoidians had a scrapped design that later became the default look for geonosians, similar to how other discarded neimoidian looks became different characters such as General Whorm Loathsome
In canon B1s were created by the geonosians and thus they look like them
can't believe that you forgot the grapple droideka, smh
No B-1 BBQ droid? Criminal😂
I actually prefer the round version B2 from the clone wars series over live action but I can’t put my finger on why
Ahhh yes. The dreaded crap droid
Where my b1 clankers at?
The CIS is my personal favorite villain faction in Star Wars!!!🥹🥹🥳🥳🦾🦾
6:54 omg is a crawler droid
If you want to collect droids, 3D print them out
I think you forgor the giant spider droid that obi wan and anakin were fighting on while falling off a skyscraper
I didn't include the tank droids, the scorponek is kinda on the edge whether or not it should be in here or not already...others missing of the top of my head are homing spider droid, Corporate alliance tank droid, hail fire droid etc.
0:00 it said crap droid not crab droid 😂😂😂
the lightsabers go through th droidekas shield
NICE. now clone army
Thanks, it's coming soonish :D
so the B1 droids are actually B1.1 droids ore something
12:32 So battle cats LD units?
That is a mobile AA system, not artillery at the end of the droideka section^^