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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2023
- **There is an updated tutorial**
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1:00 Description of the setup process and tour of the the program preferences.
15:38 Setup of the G1000 in the Cessna 172
21:20 Setup of the Cirrus Vision Jet
Run through of the awesome program "MSFS Pop Out Panel Manager"! Unlike X-Plane, MSFS doesn't remember the size and location of the pop out panels natively. This program changes that!
For those of us that use additional displays and programs like Air Manager or hardware like RealSimGear, this app is a life saver! In addition to memorizing you pop out placement and sizes, it adds touch screen functionality to certain device such as the Garmin GTC 580!
Big thanks to Stanley Kwok, the developer of this awesome program! Please consider donating to him. It looks like he spends a bunch of time answering questions about his program. You can find MSFS Pop Out Manager here: flightsim.to/file/35759/msfs-...
Would also like to give a shout out to the folks at Simstrumentation! They are rockin' some great instruments for Air Manager! Here is the link for the Vision Jet instruments: github.com/Simstrumentation/A... - Розваги
Hi Ivan, awesome video! You explain Pop Out Panel Manager much better than I do and a big thank you. Btw, there is a hidden (not really obvious) feature to adjust pop out panel using keyboard shortcuts when it is behind Air Manager bezel frame. After you drag the panel to your desire monitor, go back to Pop Out Panel Manager configuration screen. Click on the row header in the configuration table for the panel you want to adjust. This panel is now active. You can open the description of the keyboard shortcuts by clicking on the exclamation mark icon in the upper right corner above the table. The shortcuts will provide fine grained adjustment with either 1px or 10px increment to give you exact fit. Hope this helps and happy flying!
Thanks! It's great software!
A really interesting and very well produced tutorial! Well done and subbed! 😊👌🏻
Thanks!
Nice to see you got the touch working. The Vision Jet is an awesome little plane, and easily one of the best 3rd party planes for MSFS. And having touch is kind of key in order to be able to use it to its fullest extent.
Agreed!
Thanks for this video. Building a sim pit, had to press the like button around 21:21 when you are in LFK! Greetings from MHK! Subscribed.
I almost did my cross country flight to MHK for my PPL! Thanks!
Thanks for the instructions! Have mine up and running
Awesome!
Was struggling with setting up panels for the Vision Jet today. Couldn’t get the touch to work on the GTC 580 and dreaded having to reset up the pop outs each time I exit and restart MSFS. Your video could not have been more timely! What I especially like about your videos is that they get into the nitty gritty of setting thins up. This is especially helpful for a newbie to flight sim like me, who doesn’t have the base know how to fill in these details myself. Thank you!
You are welcome! The Vision Jet is quickly becoming my favorite plane!
Such a good video. Many many thanks.
You are welcome!
Very nice explained, thank you.👍👍
You are welcome!
Thanks - Great Work 👏👏👏
You are welcome!
Thanks, very helpful.
You are welcome! The developer did all of the hard work!
Thanks!
Thank you!
Thanks again Ivan on another very informative video. I am a newbie to the world of flight sims and have only just purchased all the necessary hardware as well as software to enhance my flying experience in MSFS 2020. A quick question, how do you set you panels to default in the power off mode? Thanks in advance!
Hello Ivan, your calm explanations make it easy to follow, even if english is not my native language. I noticed, when you start adding panels, one should be careful where to click, cause every click is a panel for the PO Manager, even if it is the poor push back guy 🙂. I especially liked the Garmin 1000 frame templates, but couldnt find them either in Air Manager nor in Simstrumentation. Coulld you please tell where to find them?
Try this video: ua-cam.com/video/UNZwbvCUT2s/v-deo.html
Also try this video. Let me know if still unable to find the G1000. ua-cam.com/video/Bpv__BdiEiU/v-deo.html
@@IvanSkyFlight Thanks a lot for answering so fast. I found a single frame on SDimstrumentation for the G1000, the top of the frame says "X-Plane". I didnt find the 2 that you show in your movie, where the top of the frame just says "Garmin". Sorry for bothering.
@@ralfe2212 Go to the list of the panels on the left side of Air Manager. Click on the panel that contains the G1000. Highlight the G1000 by clicking on and go into the settings. It's the same page where you set the panel to be PFD or MFD (I believe). There you will find another setting that allows you chose "Garmin" as the label on the top. This only applies to the Simstrumentation version of the G1000.
Great presentation. In air manager I don’t see a g1000 panel for MSFS 2020 only for FS and XPlane.
There is a G1000 that comes with Air Manager that says "X-Plane" on the bezel but works for both XPlane and MSFS 2020 (FS). There is another bezel developed by Simstrumentation that can say either "Garmin" or "Simstrumentation" on the bezel. It's the G1000nxi bezel. If you don't have that bezel, you may have to go to the Simstrumentation Github to download it. It's free and a great bezel. Here is the link: github.com/Simstrumentation/Air-Manager/tree/main/Instruments/Generic/Generic-Garmin_G1000_NXi
@@IvanSkyFlight will definitely download the file.
Thanks
Thank you for your explanation. With Touch screen enabled, can I drag a panel on a separate tablet and use the TCS, for example, like in the real aircraft - to touch it with my fingers? This would be awesome!
I am not sure what TCS is. But there is an easy way to see. If you have a tablet like iPad or Android, there are programs that extend the Windows desktop to that tablet and you should have touch functionality. See what happens if you can pop any given item out and see what touch functionality is available. Please let us know how it works out.
Thank you for your advice. Today I will have the tablet delivered and I will try to drag on it a panel from the Windows desktop and see if I have touch functionality. I will let you know. From what I know, TCS stands for Touch Screen Controller in the cockpit of the more modern aircraft. Cheers from Sydney Australia, your subscriber Nick. @@IvanSkyFlight
How would you add an additional popout to an existing popout scheme without doing all the popouts again?
Thanks for the video, I'm thinking of doing the same with the vision jet, once the screens pop out, do they go back off or do they stay on
You're welcome! I am really liking the Vision Jet! The panels stay popped out until you either you close them individually or you exit the plane. Let me know if that doesn't answer your question.
@@IvanSkyFlight well, he hasn’t got back to you so I’ll say that’s not what he asked. He didn’t ask if the panels stay popped out, he asked if the they switch back off after being popped out as the Vision jet ones stayed on in your video at the end which is annoying if you want to start a flight cold and dark.
Hi! This popout manager is the tool, I awaited for long time. it's the perfect solution for touch panels. Unfortunately I have some problems... Does anyone also have issues with the touch panel of the G3000 in the MSFS TBM 930 with improvement mods? some buttons work, but some don't (f.e. the ENTER button of the squawk) ... if anyone has a hint, I'd be very thankful!
Evening sir: thanks so much for your time and effort in producing this informative video for us. This should be a real timesaver and very welcome addition to my air manager programs and 2 small additional screens. I'm not a very computer savvy guy and your previous videos on air manager and others have been very helpful. Two questions if I may: I am preparing to download the program and the directions say: unzip and place in a folder of your choice-does this folder have to be in MSFS somewhere, or where do I put the folder? 2). It says if using Auto Popout feature, copy zzz-ready-to-fly-button-skipper into the MSFS community folder. I am uncertain if that is what you did for instance with the Visionjet: did I need to do this or do I just select the feature from the application itself on startup? Thanks again, sincerely appreciate your time spent to enlighten the simulation community.
Bill, the program really doesn't "install". It just runs out of the folder it extracts to, so really you can put that folder anywhere and just pin the shortcut to your taskbar or desktop. I keep MSFS on a second SSD so I put my folder in the root of that disk.
As far as "zzz-ready....", that's only if you want to bypass the "Ready To Fly" button. I don't use that function. It can still auto detect the chosen aircraft and load up the correct profile if you select "Enable auto pop out panels" under Pop Out Panel Manager preferences. You just manually have to hit "ready to fly".
@@IvanSkyFlight Thanks for the information Ivan, and the quick reply. Helps me immensely. Just finished watching your discussion with Joe from Simstrumentation. Really enjoyed the discussion and learned a great deal about what and how to expand my AirManager. A must see for all simmers.
Hi, Ivan.
Hope all is going great for you and yours.
I have lost my settings for the Pop Out Manager (POM) that I had saved when I did an update. So, I found your helpful video - that helped me once before initially - in hopes to reset it back so to speak.
HOWEVER....
There has been a few updates to POM since then and now it seems like it is a completely different setup including menus, etc. I find the green circle / target icon; but I cannot click on the screens to identify 1 and 2.
My question is, could you make a video on how to start from scratch on resetting this?
By the way, this only seems to be messing up on the G1000 setup. If I use the 6 pack setting such as 172 or 152 that I've created using AM , it seems to immediately take care of everything with Air Manager. (Yes, I've updated my AM, also).
Thank you.
Have a great and safe day.
-- Matthew
I do think it's time to do an updated menu. Let me see what I can do. Thanks for the suggestion!
Is there any recommendations on what touch screens are best to use?
I only have experience with Uperfect and Wimaxit. They all seem like cheap monitors probably made in the same factory. Having said that, they do the job.
My Pop Out Panel Manager no longer auto starts. Anyone else have this issue? Solution?
I just wonder if it is possible to pop out the Cessna 152 flight instruments? I tried hovering the curser and holding the right shift key, there isn't a + sign showed up. But I can do that on the Radios and transponder panels ...... is there a trick that I don't know.
I think only the digital radio frequencies can pop out on the C152. I am not aware of any of the analog instruments popping out.
Ivan, thanks as you have made my day. I do have a basic question or two. I am building the 737 MIP and other parts based on Karl Clarke's designs for the full MIP. My main screen is a 65" TV. Behind the MIP will be three monitors to cover the five main screens. With Pop Out Panel Manager and FSMS2020 can I operate those three monitors with a separate networked PC so as not to burden the main PC? And then use other software e.g. Mobiflight to attach all my LEDs, switches, 7 point segments, and other physical devices to MSFS on the main PC? Again thanks.
Jay, I am not sure about Mobiflight stuff. I don't think popped out displays work on networked machines. I think those only work on displays/desktops that Windows considers an extension of the main desktop. One test would be if your mouse pointer can move between the screens. For just gauges that don't rely on popped out displays, other networked device should work.
@jaybeckham Hello Jay, I'm currently walking your same path of setting up a 737-800 cockpit using some of Karl's excellent designs. I'm also after setting up a multiscreen environment, but having run short of free video ports on my main sim machine, I'm beginning to implement all the glass panels on a second networked PC with Spacedesk and Pop Out Manager. Only, I'm not using Mobiflight but half of my hardware is made with I/O cards from Opencockpits and the rest with Arduino, anyway this makes no big difference regarding the multiscreen setup.
So if you like, since we are on parallel routes, we could share our experiences, findings, tricks and especially discuss about how we approached and solved the various issues.
[Note] This is the third time I'm trying to post this reply but it gets deleted every time by YT, possibly because I was trying to enclose my contact, which is possibly against YT policy? 🤔
Anyway, if you're interested, please reply here and then we'll find a way to share our contacts 😁
Regards,
Roberto
@jaybeckam
Let's try this way: xrxoxbxyxmxaxrxtxixnxixaxtxtxixnxdxoxtxixtx
(removing all x'es 😁)
I use WIDEVIEW for 3 big monitors for just the scenery and for the instrument panel I pop out the navigation, engine, ISFD(ISIS) etc panels from the main computer running the flightsim whether it's MDFS or Prepar3D. These pop outs are dragged to 3 or 4 separate small monitors on the MIP(instrument panel)
You use an older version of pop out manager.
I am trying to pop out with this vision jet.
But I only get moading custom camera view failed.
Please try to help ab old man.....
Check the link in the description. I have updated this video.
Hi Ivansky. Is there a full function a32nx overhead panel for the FlyByWire a32nx of Msfs2020? Thanks
On the SIm Innovations website under community panels there is one listed, but I couldn't tell you anything about it as I have never used it. Let us know if it works.
@IvanSkyFlight only few switches work.
Is there already a solution to NOT affect frame rate once you pop-out panels into another physical display? I have been wanting to do this but the loss of 10-12fps is a lot for me. MSFS2020 just don't like 2D separate displays on its panels.
I don't know of any solution other than to upgrade component parts, but that's a big ask just to run Air Manager. I don't think I am taking quite that much of a hit, but I haven't really measured so perhaps I am.
@@IvanSkyFlight There a very long thread on the MSFS forum about pop-outs causing a major drop in FPS, due to the Asobo code. Somehow XPlane do it better, but they use Vulkan and are not constrained by DirectX.
where can you find the popout manage exe file? I cant find it anywhere in the downloaded file.
Can't air manager handle the screens too ?
Do I really need 2 programs ?
Thanky
AIr Manager doesn't handle the placement of the pop outs. You can do that completely manually. Pop Out Panel Manager just automates the process.
How much does this affect FPS? Ive read in a couple forums that this kills fps. What is your experience
I think it would depend on your system. If I am taking a hit, it's small.
Hello dear, I need your help, I would like to use 2 PCs, one for the sim with 3 monitors, and one for the avionics pop outs. How can I do? I am going crazy
I don't think you can pop out a display to a second computer on MSFS unless that second computer has a program installed that extends the display of the first computer. With Air Manager you can run non "pop out" instruments on a second computer which would free up some cycles on the first computer. I have heard that may something like what you are asking for or Air Manager and XP, but don't quote me on that.
Fling for Real was never this Com plicated.
Sometimes that feels true!
Hi Ivan, is it work with Airbus and Boeing was well, in msfs2020?
I am not sure as I don't fly those aircraft. Maybe somebody can weigh in here. If not I will look at it later this week.
@@IvanSkyFlight thanks
..."Unable to pop out the first panel. Please check the first panel's number circle is positioned inside the panel, check for panel obstruction, and check if panel can be popped out. Pop out process stopped...." any possible solution?
Make sure you get that starting view saved. Assign with control-alt-0. Second thing is what aircraft are you trying to set up?
I'm having the same problem did you get it resolved? If so what did you have to do
The panels pop up if the program is in the start up folder or do you have to hit start pop out each time?
There is a setting that will auto start/close with MSFS, I believe. 13:42
@@IvanSkyFlight thanks😀
I went to Sim Innovations but I did not see any of the outer bezels for the c172 g1000. I am trying to setup a touch screen. Any help would be great full. Thanks
Do you have the paid version of Air Manager? If so try this link for how to search. I also have videos on how to setup the touch panel. ua-cam.com/video/UNZwbvCUT2s/v-deo.html
Would this work with air player as well? Currently I run air manager from my sim pc and air player on my macbook for the panels. Thanks!
I think it would depend. Are you using the Macbook as an extended desktop for the sim pc, meaning, are you dragging the pop outs from the sim pc to the desktop of the Macbook? If not, I am assuming you are running instruments on the Macbook that don't require pop outs. If that is the case I don't think it would work.
Hi there. I keep getting an error message for the Longtitude that tells me that the Pop out manager is Unable to pop out the panels. I can't think what I am doing wrong. I've watched a few videos on it now and I'm doing what they say.
Sometimes this program can be persnickety for sure. I just spent about 30 minutes and I could not get all of the popouts (there are 8 that I counted) to pop out. It seems like it would come to down to the specific view and the specific order. The developer seems to be fairly responsive I would give them a shout out and see what they say. Let us know if you find out something. I will also keep working on it and will post back here if I figure it out. Sorry I couldn't get it to work.
Hi Ivan I can't seem to get number 3 stage up in setting up profile ? Ie start panel selection Can you help please many thanks
We can try. What seems to be the problem?
@@IvanSkyFlight hi Ivan I think have found a answer there is a more updated pop out manager so hopefully get sorted now ... many thanks
Is it possible to move the pop out displays to another PC in a network?
I don't think so. As best I can tell MSFS only lets you move the pop outs to displays/desktops it considers an extension of the main display. Gauges that don't rely on popped out displays can be run on other networked machines.
@@IvanSkyFlight in that case I need a pc with at least 9 video outputs. Three for the scenery and six for the monitors. I am building a B737 cockpit.
@@pepijnflies That’s a lot! Are all of those displays unique in content? My setup uses 5 screens. I use a USB to HDMI adapter. There may be option with software to extend your desktop to other computers like you can with tablets.
@@IvanSkyFlight Yes, they are unique. Of course I need three outputs for the scenery. Then one for the captain side, one for the FO side, one for the enginescreen, one for the screen between the two CDU's and the two screens for the separate CDU's. I will have to find a solution. Perhaps your suggestion is an option, extending the desktop with three different laptop which will power two screens each. I have no idea if that is possible. Thanks for your advice.
Good morning Ivan, I am a 84-year-old Air Force guy trying to learn all this new computer equipment. I have Microsoft flight simulator 2000 a large screen along with a 23 inch touchscreen and a lobster. I have watched all your tutorials on this issue but I still have trouble figuring out how to get a 1000 display on my touchscreen. I want to get the View with the bees so I could use them lobster I have air manager downloaded, but I can’t find a Cessna 172 with a G 1000 display. You have a great presentation without any side chatter and and don’t go off on tangents. Would appreciate your help best regards, ron in San Diego
Ivan, I don’t have a lobster. It’s a knobster. ron in San Diego 😅
Ron, I don't believe there is a Cessna cockpit already assembled with the G1000. You have to start with a blank panel in Air Manager and then add the G1000 bezels. See if the following link is helpful. ua-cam.com/video/Ep8DSmRVosg/v-deo.html
@@IvanSkyFlight Ivan thanks so much for the reply. I followed your video again very succinct but where I lost it is when you went from the air manager and you said I’m gonna get out of these screens and go to flight simulator. When you do that two of the G 1000 came up on the screen. How did you get those two screenshots. I assume you had the flight simulator screen on where did you pull out the 2G 1000 instruments. Is it from Microsoft flight simulator pop out program? I’m not sure I know how to handle that other than thatFabulous tutorial. I saw someplace that I could download a bezel but not sure how to get all of this stuff together. Did the bezelcome from air manager ?
.Would you please try and help again. Very best run
@@ronkiripolsky258 Two things: Can you give me the time stamp of that video where you are talking about so I can clarify that for you? Also, check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/UNZwbvCUT2s/v-deo.htmlsi=x9Blq0FkcYGAUVDy
Hi, Ivan. When I follow your steps, every thing works fine until the "Start Pop Out." (I center the number in each respective screen.)
I then receive a message stating:
"Unable to pop out first panel. (More wording stated...) Pop out process stopped."
In short, neither panel turns on, even though I've clicked the box stating to do so. The screen does do a look around, let's say, but nothing else happens.
Any ideas?
One point....Could other software I have running may be an issue such as KnobFS (for Knobster), and SpaceDesk (for the iPad as extra monitor 2 and 3)?
In the meantime, I'm going to research your other videos in case I missed something to maybe self diagnose. Thank you as always and take care.
-- Matthew
Try setting up a single pop out and see what happens.
@@IvanSkyFlight Will do. Thank you
BTW, how did you get the vision panels to work in msfs2020? I only see it for xplane
Go to the link in the description for the Simstrumentation Github site. Scroll down to where it says "Working Instruments". Click on the links under the heading "Current Version". Download each component which is a SIFF file. Then open Air Manager and go to the top left part of the window and click on where it says "Air Manager". That will open a menu. Click on "import" and direct the program to where you downloaded the SIFF file. Then do a search in Air Manager. The new instruments should be there.
@@IvanSkyFlight Ivan, really enjoy your videos and have learned very much. Having a problem now as I attempt to use misfits pop out. I start, bring up screen to good location for my panels. Use Ctl, Alt 0. Can not detect anything happening, if I move screen away and press Alt 0, screen stays where it’s at. If I try to pop out after selections are made it never finishes, always loses a panel. I have tried pressing Save Auto Camera before selecting Start pop out. Same problem screen normally goes too high and to left, sometimes will catch 1, 2 panels, in fact only one I’ve finished is C172 with 2 panels. You have any ideas, help please, this pop out program will really save time.
Chan
@@clofland5214 When pressing CTRL + ALT + 0 (all three at the same time), there should be no movement. It should save that view to custom location (ALT + 0). Then changing views and pressing ALT + 0 should take you back to the saved view. That is not happening for you?
@@IvanSkyFlight no, not happening
And pressing save auto camera does nothing.
do you need this tool to remove the unnecessary yoke?
I am not sure what you are asking. Do you mean the right side yoke? I just remove it the normal way by clicking on the yoke visibility prompt.
@@IvanSkyFlight I mean the yoke in front of me, but I think I have been able to click onto its base (on/off)
I get the same issue as Flamer584 with the popout windows not working as I get the following message: "Unable to pop out the first panel. Please check the first panel's number circle is positioned inside the panel, check for panel obstruction, and check if panel can be popped out. Pop out process stopped." I have done it several times but get the same error message. I have followed your instructions to the letter. The only thing I do notice is that I can't seem to get the "Control+Alt+0" to apply correctly for my cockpit view in MSMS. It doesn't always seem to return to that view when I press Alt+0. I don't understand why this doesn't work correctly. I have even simply made a random cockpit view using the same key combination but it comes back with random views, sometimes the one I originally set up, while on other occasions a completely different view. Weird.
That is probably part of the problem. I would go into your control options and look for binding conflicts. I would start with the keyboard.
Been typing to you but not sure system still sending
Sorry about delay, I had a motherboard failure and have been reinstalling everything. Did you ever resolve your problem?
I find it less frustrating to just use the built in window pop-out feature in MSFS.
Does MSFS have a built in feature like that?
They do not. Not sure what he’s refering to.
too complicated
It does get tricky.
Amazing how you have to use and hack your way to get pop out windows. Because the largest & richest software company can’t make it a feature in MSFS. And they have software called Windows. LOL just unreal the hacks you have to use.
Agreed. There are reasons outside of simulation where it would be nice to have pop out windows at certain areas, size, etc. It's all doable with third party software, but some of that software is difficult to use, and who knows if that software will continue to be developed or not.
Pop out Manager is not related to Air manager in any way. I cant understand your video heading with Air manager. There is no need for pop out Manager . Air manager does all of this. You have also mentioned real sim gear yet you tell us in the video you dont know how to do it with flight sim hardware. Come on please dont go Glory seeking it shows right through?
Pop Out Manager for MSFS is useful for people who use G-1000 and other navigation units that have bezels. Air Manager provides a software bezel and RealSimGear provides a hardware bezel. From the POPM developer: "MSFS Pop Out Panel Manager is an application for MSFS 2020 which helps pop out, save and position pop out panels to be used by utilities such as Sim Innovations Air Manager".