Stream Your Cockpit Displays
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- A explanation of the video streaming features of the soon-to-be released Air Manager 4.2. It allows sim cockpit glass displays to to streamed to Air Manager panels running locally or on another networked computer.
Wow great video. This really makes Air Manager usefull to cockpit builders that are not building General Aviation cockpits. This was always a shortcoming for me. This changes it a bit. Pitty MSFS is not supporting streaming of the instruments. I will add my vote.
Great video, Russ. Always enjoy your content! Do you think we can expect this to work in the future with MSFS 2020?
Hi Russ
I just installed the BetaVersion of Airmanager 4.2. I made a test with my Toliss A321 (video_stream). Unfortunately without success. Testing FF A350 and Laminar A330 without problems.
Is there no support from Toliss side? 😔
If you tried all three generic panel keys and none produces a texture image then Toliss hasn’t followed the Laminar guidelines and it won’t work until they do.
Hi Russ
After a long nightshift i found the solution....😕🥱
video_stream_id=video_stream_add("xpl/gauges[1]",0,0,820,820,0,2049,1020,1020)
That is the solution for my Airbus A321 NEO/XLR.
Apperently I used wrong parameters.🥴🥴🥴
The original panel.png was 4096 x4096 big ‼
Greetings from Germany
Same here. So I am using Toliss 321 and bought Airmanager 4.2 for nothing.
Russ, thanks for the heads-up. It looks promising. Currently, popping out panels (in MSFS) reduces the FPS count significantly. Do you think this streaming technique would resolve this problem? Thank you.
On XP12 it seems to be slightly better than the pop out windows but there is still a fps loss. Some guys say running the monitor showing the pop outs in MSFS on the computers internal graphics port( needs to be enabled in the bios) is much less fps hit.
I have not tried this myself.
Thanks, very informative!
I am afraid Microsoft will not add video stream support to their flightsimulator. They have shown little interest in cockpit builders.
They follow the $$ and that is with casual gamers. They placate serious simmers though to keep us from bad mouthing MSFS. Just MHO
Great video Russ,
I’ve followed everything step by step except for the grey background. but I must be doing something wrong because I only sew a blank white rectangle instead of the
Any help would be be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Alan
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Russ, I have even done a step by step procedure about the video, and it is missing a step! When I try to get the image of the texture it simple does not work. No texture, no cockpit. From creating the instrument and pulling the right texture file, there is a missing step. How do Air Manager knows which texture or file to pull? Am I missing something? My Air Manager is Home Use Ver 4.2.6.
Russ, congratulation on yet another a fantastic video, I realize that this is not possible on MSFS2020 .... I would very much appreciate if you could give me a 'heads-up' when & if this would be possible in MSFS. I have a fully home built cockpit and would love to be able to stream certain instruments out of the Pilatus PC-12 (that at present do not Pop-Out) using AirManager onto my touch screens, thank you so much for your hard work in enhancing the flightsim community.
I have downloaded the files on your website, but seems that there is no display in there, just normal 737 panel, any idea where I can get those panel, I have try to follow your steps, but I can't get it to work. Kind regards
Russ, I got everything working, however, I was unable to get KNOBSTER to work on the bezel. In the setup it says that knobster is disabled and there is no drop down selection to change this. Is knobster not supported with these new bezels? All the knobs and buttons work with the mouse. Will the bezels work with a touchscreen?
This is 3 hours long can you make a simple video on how to display MFD on air manager?
You must be on loop. It is a 24 minute video on my computer,
This is a great step forward, I was successful in creating the PFD and ND for the X737 V7, I will continue to do the rest but the Air Players that are current do connect to the Air Manager yet. It will be great when it does. Thanks for the Fantastic improvement. Edit: I gather that is the way to send the stream to another computer, is that correct?
Hello Russ. Excellent solution. I now want to isolate the instruments in this way and show them on a dedicated display. I have a problem that when I change XPlane to display only scenery on the main display (Forward with scenery), the instruments do not work. I would really like it, as I don't want to see a panel on the simulator screen. Maybe you can help me. Thanks!
Yes unfortunately the cockpit must be displayed or X-Plane doesn't create the display images. One solution would be at use a second computer to run your cockpit (the graphics could be set way down) as the master, and the other couputer as the external displays running scenery only. It requires two copies of X-Plane 12 though. The cockpit computer doesn't need a lot of power as it it's scenery can be a very low settings since it will not be seen except foor the streamed displays.
@@rbarlow Thank you very much. I will try this alternative solution.
that`s fantastic, thank you; but i need to change to xp12 and thats a lot of work to arrange everything as i have it now. will all the add on and lua script work from xp11?
Im wondering the same thing as im also still on xp11 in my pit.
I have a friend with a very advanced sim and he has made the change without problems. He uses Air Manager for instruments and cockpit hardware and several other addons. I think most are compatible but I’d check before I jump.
This is fantastic, thank you so much Russ!
Russ, I have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time. I have learned a lot from you. I had difficulty getting this to work and got a white screen. I felt confident I was doing everything correctly. It was one of your commenters that said he forgot to update the Xplane 12 plugin for Air Manager. This was my problem all along. Thank you and your followers again.
I'm a bit late to the party Russ, in your example, is Air Manager running on the same PC that Xplane is running on? I'm attempting to stream from a networked PC that has Air Manager installed to my sim rig (that has Xplane 12 running) with no joy
Should work over the LAN just the same. Same network, latest beta and beta sim plugin? Try the G530 or G1000 and be sure it is updated instrument… turn on auto update, or delete in manually re-download the instrument. See if any of that helps.
How can i flash my Knobster which I bought from you (Russ Barlow) to run in Air Manager panels????It was one of the few that you made before siminnovations took it over....
Say again?
Can I stream a 530 to a small screen even if the plane doesn’t have it on its instrument panel? Thx
No it needs to be on the aircraft.
@@rbarlow thanks for the quick reply. I love your channel
Is there already a feature request we can vote for to support instrument streaming?
Just found something that is not good, if you want to stream the instruments, you have to have them showing in the cockpit as well which sort of defeats the purpose. When I went to the scenery view only, the instruments stopped working, when going back to the cockpit view, they start again. For me, this sort of defeats using the streaming. If I am missing something, please let me know.
Did you hear back from Russ on this? I, too, plan on a setup similar to yours--outside view only on upper monitor and panel view only on lower (touch screen) monitor.
Could multiple streams (eg Arbus A32c) be placed on one screen oder do I nead multiple 10 inch or similar monitors?
Sure.they are just Air Manager instruments like any others and can be placed. Into your panels as you like. Check out this unlisted video I did to demonstrate a system to make the streams on the Zibo 737 work like in the aircraft (inset in video)
ua-cam.com/video/nYkbCNKhdok/v-deo.htmlsi=Fj4JHRsJ90RePrYE
Does this mean I can run a second computer for additional displays (to get around the 4 display limit from Gpu)?
You can add more displays with USB 3
Where shuold this line of code be entered?
Question for you, I'm using B737 zibo with your panels, was working fine with my touch screen on the same pc as X-Plane 12, Just bought Air Player and Install it on a mini PC with my Dual touch screen, all the other Panels I have work fine, but the 2 Zibo B737 MIP Right and Left are not showing up at all. Any idea?
Currently the pop out windows have to be dragged to a monitor hooked up to running XP. Starting in Air Mgr 4.2, due in a month or so, the pop out displays can be streamed to another computer. There is a working beta for AM but zi font think Air Player has a updated beta version. I need to modify my Zibo instruments to include the displays that stream the PFD and other displays. I will look into that today.
@@rbarlow Thank-you, I’m new on the Zibo and 737, I was mostly on DCH-6 Twin Otters and flying in Nepal. But since X-plane 12 the Twin Otters with the G1000 does not work, I’m trying to learn this one. Thanks again for all your work.
Size of Monitor used on previous video showing touch screen mounting bracket you made
15.6” 1920 x 1080 Wimaxit
Hi Russ, thanks for the great announcement of the new capabilities in version 4.2.
But unfortunately I can't find any beta version for Mac to download.
Does it not exist yet (if not, when can it be expected?) or did I miss something in the wiki?
I would be very happy to get some feedback.
Usually the beta is done on windows and then a MacOS build is done on just prior to release
@@rbarlow Thank you for your quick reply. Is there already a date in sight for the MacOS version? I am so excited about this update ;-)
Great job and thanks for making all this possible!
Very well explained Russ, and I am excited for this feature. Am I wrong to assume that if you do choose to run air manager on the same machine as xplane that the latency and CPU utilisation on the master PC would be less? Presumably if its local, it wont have to stream it?
On XP12 it seems to be slightly better than the pop out windows but there is still a fps loss. Some guys say running the monitor showing the pop outs in MSFS on the computers internal graphics port( needs to be enabled in the bios) is much less fps hit.
I have not tried this myself.
Since I upgraded to Windows 11, I have been having trouble with my Air Manager instruments randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. SimInnovations support has been unable to trouble-shoot the reason (I have tried everything from disabling firewall to totally reinstalling Air Manager).
Possibly installing Air Manger 4.2 might clean up whatever is causing this glitch. I presume that apart from the added features for XPlane, Air Manager 4.2 will retain the existing features of 4.1 so that creating and editing in MSFS is the same.
If you switch to 4.2 beta it will install as a separate app with its own instruments. and won’t affect your non beta install. Be sure to install the latest beta plugin in your sim from the wiki. The plugin is backwards compatible to support 4.1 too.
@@rbarlow Thanks Russ. I tried 4.2 Beta a couple of weeks ago. But it made no difference.
Since then, I have discovered that this issue only occurs when I minimize the Air Manager window.
We have tried running with all other applications and non essential systems closed to no avail.
We cannot understand why this happens, but that is the solution in my case.
It is a rare issue that is known to occur in some circumstances but currently there is no known fix apart from not minimising.
Regards, Fearless Swan.
Hi Russ any idea when 4.2 will be in general release? The beta crashes and locks up on my machine so I can't use it. I'm stuck on 4.1.6 so I can't video stream which is an important feature for me. Thanks for all you do!
You may have answered your own question. I think when it doesn’t crash and lock up machines is when it will be released. The last estimate I heard it was probably about September sometime.
@@rbarlow Thanks Russ!
@@rbarlow I may have found a resolution to the crashing issues I was having with AM 4.2. I am new to this and am never sure what to expect. I was trying to set up a video stream per your video to eliminate the need for a pop up on a G1000 PFD. It turns out that there is already a call for the video screen in the stock G1000 overlay even though it would lead you to the contrary with a big blue screen that says you need a pop out. I was then adding the stream instrument as well and it was crashing. As soon as I removed the additional stream, it stopped crashing and the G1000 data was all there. I don't know if others are having that issue but.I'm glad to have it resolved and maybe it will help someone else.
@@ScottDube1 I had another guy who had the same issue . I think they will change that blue screen text to explain this when 4.2 is officially released. Until then it might just confuse the vast majority that don’t use the beta releases .
@@rbarlow Makes sense. The only reason I'm using the beta is to get the video streaming. I usually don't use betas but did this time and have affirmed why I normally don't! 😁TY for your efforts!
Fantástico.
This is great news!!!! What I have been waiting for!!!! Thanks Russ!!!!
Hopefully out of beta soon. I love it too
Great video !
Does this work with the Tolies Airbuses?
It should as long as they support pop out displays. You should be able to find the textures as shown in the video
will this work on xplane 11?
No only XP12 AND using the Air Manager 4.2 beta or release when available (estimate a month from now)
Hello Russ great video, but I must confess I'm a little confused,. Is there a way of video streaming any panel from any aircraft in xplane 12?. I particularly like the part of the video where you pull the Airbus panel into air manager and wondered if it is possible to pull the panels from the 737 Zibo. I did try and follow your instructions with the Airbus panel but just ended up with a 2048 x 1024 white texture. When copying the panel.png from the 3D cockpit folder, where in flight manager do you put the file so that you can show it?. Do you need to point the video stream to a particular path. Hope you can help, thanks in advance
Watch the entire video I do demo the Zibo displays all streamed
@@rbarlow Hello Russ, Yes I did watch the entire video. I took in what you said about the 3d cockpit panels. I have tried to follow your example with the G530 panel but still have the same problem, I'm using AM 4.2 Beta 15 so is that the problem or am I missing a step somewhere. Just get a white texture every time.
@@NissanLeafDIYVideos the G530 and G430 bezels in the store have already been modified to display streaming video in V 4.2 with X-Plane 12. Have you tried using one of those instruments from the free store?
@@rbarlow Hello Russ, Watching your video again, the first example you use is the G530. you make a new instrument and run it and the panel pops up. Is that texture coming straight from XP.? This is the problem I'm having, When I run the exact same code I get a white texture. I have XP running and AM is showing the connection in the bottom right hand corner. I have the 172 running but it still only displays a white box which is the correct size. I know these panels are available in the store but i was under the impression that you could stream the textures from any aircraft in the sim using the wiki codes. Maybe AM will give a detailed summary of how to use the video system in the future . Thanks for your help.
@@NissanLeafDIYVideos Did you solve this I have the same issue.
UPDATE I did get the instrument to work in the panel, my fault I neglected to install the updated plug-in. I still get the white box in the create/edit tab when I hit "Run" though. So there is essentially no preview for the instrument.
This is great news, and thank-you for all of the amazing work that you put into creating custom panels.
Yes you can! I fly the Aerobask Phenom 300, it uses modified G1000's. So I modified the Russ Barlow's amazing G1000's to show other textures. The Aerobask textures are on the Gauges[1] texture.
@srbarlow Thank you for your amazing work and great videos!!
@@matthijsmulder does this work smooth for you?
I use the DA42 (also tried the DA62) and have a delay of about 3-20 seconds on the stream, the original G1000 works with barely any delays...
@@ilioplaton4842 I have no noticeable delay. Do you stream your image to another PC, or do you have your second display on the same PC. I have mine connected to the same PC.
@@matthijsmulder nice!
I‘m running everything on the same machine.
I‘m just confused as to why the dedicated streams (G1000 for example) work fine and if I take parts of the complete panel they lag and are not usable… fingers crossed a newer beta version will improve this!
@@matthijsmulder That's pretty cool, I've tried doing that myself but it just results in a white space, I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong. Would it be possible that you could share your modified code, if Russ approves? Thanks
When is 4.2 scheduled for release?
It is available as a late beta on the Sim Innovations wiki..... be sure to download the beta plugin and install for your sim too.(beta is windows only now)
AM 4.2 beta
siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Air_Manager_desktop_BETA
Plugin
siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flight_Simulator_Plugins_BETA
Thanks!
Hi Russ, I just installed Air Manager 4.2 (BETA 21). I planned to insert the video stream code you describe in this video. In Air Manager, I downloaded the Cirrus Vision SR50 panel. The PFD and MFD both have the message "This is an overlay only. It requires the flightsim GPS popout." Then, in X-Plane 12, I booted up the SR50. Air Manager found the SR50 immediately, but I didn't have to add any code or popout anything. The PFD and MFD displays were automatically there, in the Air Manager panel, without my doing anything. Did Sim Innovations itself add the necessary video stream code to the downloadable panel?
Yes they modified the instrument to automatically stream the video on XP12 using AM 4.2. It really is easy now. I think the text on the startup screen could reflect the fact that once the sim with that display present is opened it will stream to the AM instrument.
Now that was a pleasant surprise huh?
@@rbarlow Very pleasant, yes. I enjoy and learn from all your videos, Russ. Keep 'em coming.
let me show how easy it is.. (dives into software and codes).. Not easy enough.
If you are technical enough to build a home cockpit you are technical enough to do this
hello! your videos are great! thank you so much.
if i want to contact you for co-work, how can i contact you~? i don't see any infos on your pages :D
You just did. You could contact me at the address srbarlow320 which is at the domain gmail and is a dot com
@@rbarlow yeah you are right!
I just sent email. I hope i would get a reply :D
1. When is AM 4.2 coming out? I've been watching videos about it doing all of this amazing stuff, but haven't heard of a release date.
2. Are you saying that, when I pop a G1000 PFD/MFD to a touchscreen from Xplane, I won't have to put the instrument in a bezel and the Knobster will still work?
3. I'm lost.
4. MSFS really sucks...and that's a shame because I thought XP does, but MSFS has proven to be worthless for me.
I should’ve said on the video that the beta is available on the same elevations wiki, as well as the plug-in upgrade that is required. The good news is you can install the beta and run it alongside the regular release version without problems. The plug-in is backwards compatible so you can jump back-and-forth from one version to the other without issues.
You will still need a bezel to use Knobster with the G 1000 but no pop outs needed since the video stream will be part of the bezel.. or more correctly called the G1000 instrument since it will be complete.