Penn State vs Iowa Recap: Mind-Blowing or BORING?
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Penn State vs Iowa was the BEST dual of the year. Or was it? A lot of fans had feedback after the crazy weekend. But the Nittany Lions weren’t the only major win. The Pitt Panthers earned an upset over the Virginia Tech Hokies while Michigan and OSU earned road sweeps. Get the full recap in this week’s wrestling headlines!
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Was Penn State vs Iowa the best dual of the year or a snooze fest?
Personally, I’d like to see guys opening up more, taking more chances, and wrestling with a sense of urgency to score points in ALL periods (not just the last 30 seconds).
can you stop with clickbait bs and be a serious wrestling journalist? you are becoming a youtube talking head
Wrestling is wayyyyy to boring these days
I fell asleep
I was entertained, easy to see a scenario where Iowa made it closer. Lived up to the billing of the top two teams IMO.
Defense soap got their money’s worth out of this one!! 😂
Pitt beating Tech was a big suprise.
Iowa only scored 2 TDs all night (?). I watched but did not realize this…WOW!
I didn't reallise that either. Probably why the match seemed a bit slow.
It's ALWAYS the same dynamic between Iowa and Penn State. Tom Brands, Mr. Cliche himself, continually repeats the same lines about working harder and competing more intensely, but Penn State focuses on technical and strategic refinement, which inevitably results in Penn State wrestlers being better prepared and more often than not, better than the Iowa wrestlers. And by the time the NCAA finals takes place, we see Penn State wrestler dominating, and Iowa wrestlers (with the exception of Spencer Lee and rare others ) fading.
This is why PSU guys do better in international competition. They're all in great shape but like the rest of the top countries in the world, they focus more on technique.
Iowa guys (most, but not all) are banged up and by the time the finals come around they've passed their peak.
I agree. Brands are always about wrestling harder, wrestlers more intensely, wanting it more, sucking it up…that’s all they got. And when they try to get smarter like Penn State, there big smart move….medical forfeits in the big ten tournament, claim it’s all about the wrestlers and then they underachieve in the NCAAs and Penn state holds service or over achieves. PSU is more technical and tactical. What wrestler evolved at Iowa? …what wrestler doesn’t evolve at PSU? Even Spencer Lee would be better and healthier if he had went to Penn St
@@francostacy7675, you nailed it. If the Brand bros. can't provide the technical and tactical sophistication for their wrestlers, they need to bring in an assistant who can, because strength, conditioning, toughness, and will to win aren't enough to beat Penn State.
Yea PSU is doing something correctly. Their guys seem to continuously develop while iowa wrestlers get to a high level of wrestling and then plateau. Take Brooks and Assad or RBY and Desanto or Kerk and Cassioppi. They all started at roughly the same age and level, or iowas guys originally had them beat, but the PSU guys kept improving and now Iowa will never win those matchups again.
Brands certainly has trouble producing ncaa champs from all that talent.Spencer doesn’t really count because he’s #1 no matter what college he wrestles for.
Just some amazing defense from Kerkvliet. Posting his left hand on Tony’s shoulder not allowing him to close the distance was just amazing. And also just keep picking up his right ankle…Wow. He could not make the adjustments.
Again congratulations to Penn State.
Oh and does anyone know why Tom has not done a post match press conference? I kept looking for one, but didn’t see it on UA-cam.
Thank you Fanco Wrestling for this great Monday recap…Enjoying NOW! 🍿😃
I was there and one of the very few Iowa fans. It was boring and I don’t understand why they didn’t wrestle Assad. They basically wrestled to “keep it close” but accepted their fate with a loss.
my dad said the announcers said that assad missed weight by 6lbs so he legitimately couldn't wrestle due to not making weight which is crazy.
Looking for a new good soap. Got any suggestions?
It was honestly closer than I expected. Iowa is great of course but PSU has a powerhouse lineup this season with the backend being a murderer's row. On a sidenote, I see Woods winning 141 this season. He has really distinguished himself in the matches I have watched.
I agree I thought things were gonna get ugly I thought penn state would win 149 and 165 and carter tear brands up
@@npierce14 I thought Bartlett would win as well. I went weight by weight and I think I had it like...28-9. I had PSU winning every toss-up. Iowa winning at 125 and then I thought PSU would win at 41(Bartlett with the upset), 49...though you KNEW that one would be dull. '57 I had Haines majoring Siebrecht, '65 Facundo, '74 Starr with a major, Brooks major(over Assad, not a 157/165 backup weighing in at 171). Dean and then Kerkvliet...and then I said there would probably be some upsets and it'd be 24-12. I figured more reasonably Lee would get the pin...I mean, ZERO doubt there, right! And then Warner or Woods, Murin, or Cass.
Never dawned on me that it'd be SO boring and SO slow.
@@scourge8097 that was literally my thinking brands did the most active stalling I’ve ever seen if penn state fans were rowdy like iowa in carver Hawkeye they would’ve been screaming stalking in the 1st to put pressure on the ref cuz he did nothing in fact iowas whole lineup did nothing 2 whole shots by the whole team!!!! That’s nuts carter took more shots in the 1st and 2nd than the whole team but didn’t get a stalling on brands until late in the 3rd but iowa fans saying oh brands has closed the gap
@@npierce14 Iowa fans holding onto that 2021 team title lol. You would’ve never guessed they won it that year with them going 1-2 in the finals, Penn State going 4-0, and Lee and Starocci beating Eierman and Kemerer.
@@DTS_I I always forget and shocked to relearn they won it that year cuz penn state showed out that year especially in the finals if they would’ve had a competent 125 and beard would’ve had the chip on his shoulder that he has this year they would’ve won
Kennedy ran from Facundo. Hard to shoot when your opponent wore track shoes instead of wrestling shoes. Sick of guys stalling until OT
Penn State won the dual, congratulations to them and their fans. But, I think the fact that it was so close and basically came down to the last match will give Iowa a tremendous lift. If Abe wrestled I don’t think it’s a tech and if that 57 pounder could of gotten it done oh man do things get crazy.
The National Tournament could be a real barn burner. We can’t wait!
The range of the dual was a razor thin win by Iowa to a blowout win by PSU. I think the gap will be pretty wide at nationals. Iowa will have a champ at 125 and possibly a champ at 141 and a total 4-6 AAs... where as PSU will have 4-5 champs and 7-9 AAs..
Penn State fan here and before the match I honestly went back and forth on who would win. Haines replacing Baraclough and Abe not wrestling were huge for us. Good wrestling. See ya at the NCAAs.
Interesting that even if Lee bumped up and won by decision while Iowa majored at 125, it would have been an eight point swing but Penn State would have still won.
Lee isn't beating RBY and their 125 backups are 0-4 and 6-7 on the year; very likely they lose that one, too.
Actually if it had gone that way it would’ve gone 17-16 Penn State. Say if Ayala got a major at 125 lbs, and then Spencer beats RBY at 133 lbs by decision. That’s 7 points in the beginning. Now if we go on with the rest of the meet as it happened, Iowa scored 9 more team points, meaning they would have 16 points. Penn State would have most their points, except if Spencer beats RBY, we take away the 6 points he got for Penn State, bringing down the total score to 17 points for Penn State. Either way Iowa would’ve lost to Penn State
@@ianshue2890 Like riding in the back seat of a car driven by a really smart kangaroo. :)
Instead of winning by 9, win by 1 = 8 pt swing.
Thanks Josiah - good stuff. I like higher scoring in matches but sometimes you get defensive matches. We got a bunch from Penn State - Iowa and that was OK. I loved it..... mostly because Penn State won but good wrestling all around.
You and Shane Sparks are great for our sport! Thank you for real, unapologetic passion in reporting! 💪
So true they are like twins
Top wrestlers seem to go for one takedown, a minute of riding time, an escape, let the opponent escape, then pretend not to be stalling the rest of the match. Fans like to watch the best wrestlers continue to be aggressive.
Thank you for calling out what brands did he stalled carter out he did absolutely nothing for 2 and a half periods carter took atleast 10 shots the first 2 period
As usual, well done. Thanks.
I find your reaction and Flo's reaction both perfectly valid. It comes down to taste probably. I think the message Penn State sent is they can defend their title and it's up to someone else to take it from them, which in the tournament this year more than last is going to have to be a collective effort from multiple teams. But that won't be enough to get anyone other than Penn State over the top. A couple guys might get bumped off, though, if they don't bring it.
Starrochi, Van Ness and Facundo were all to tentative...RBY, Brooks and Kerk were great!
At Carter's level and where we wants to go, I just feel that match was a disappointment. The freshmen, I can understand, wrestling much more experienced guys in tight matches.
@@farbeyonddriven8173 We needed Carter to at least major Brands...Happy for Levi Haines-Impressive.
The OT scramble between Sam Latona and Micky Phillpi was amazing!!
I went to high school with Nathan Taylor. Really happy with how he is developing at Lehigh and a great kid
side note; assad didn't go cause he missed weight by over 6 pounds. my dad told me they said that on commentary.
I was there and felt like the only Iowa fan in the world. Best believe I was screaming “let’s go Iowa”
I was there too and surprisingly it didn't seem like there were many Iowa fans
Mind blowing! I enjoyed every match.
Iowa stalled nonstop. 2 takedowns the whole meet. The stall calls need to get a lot more aggressive when its clear a giys not wrestling. Tired of 1-1 ties decided by riding time. Doesn't do much to help the appeal of our sport
Get rid of riding time and reduce the march time from 7 minutes to 6 and you’ll see better wrestling.
I wish the college level had a duel meet national championship like highschool does with it's dual state
04:02~ Levi haines vs Cobe siebrecht, young wrestler rivalry big match game
5:45 Starocci had done that same move for the last 3 seconds of the match. Kind of a taunt "I don't have any stall calls, and you're gonna lose by 1, try and get me". I think Brands was showing some frustration by throwing it back at him.
Are you kidding me? Iowa did not wrestle to win after 125 at all. Stallers every one.
Kerkvleit is a physical specimen, and he's also finally learning how to use that athletic ability. I though Spencer WAS pinned. JMO. And it was fun to see the NCAA final rematch at 197. Lastly, RBY was OW.
I was lucky to attend this match too. When Vespa came out to wrestle Lee we were all wondering where is Stein then the place went crazy when Vespa took down Lee. But Lee does what he does....but he did not pin Vespa...hmmm. Also I agree with Kerkvliet looking great.
Yeah Vespa caught everybody off guard, that was wild, but Spencer is the
It was an interesting dual. I thought Penn State's LOSERS did a pretty good job. Bartlett only lost to #1 Woods by 4-1. Van Ness, a freshman, gave senior Murin a good match and lost only 4-1. Murin scored a late TD. Facundo, another freshman, lost only 2-1 to Kennedy. These matches are no doubt good learning experiences.
This match was riveting!!
Part of the "problem" is we've been spoiled recently. Zain, Bo, Ruth, Taylor, Nolf.....all of them were atypical point scoring pinners in the very biggest of matches, even among our greatest wrestlers. This Penn State team might possibly have 9 AA's and 5 champs in the line-up, yet might not be as dynamic as a whole when compared to the guys above. RBY is a clear exception. We have biases from history, and they inform our perceptions of current events. Penn State's all-time greats have been so amazing at showing us what wrestling "can" look like that when we see other great wrestlers who aren't quite as dynamic we feel something is lacking.
Agreed
I was there. I’m an iowa fan. At no time was psu sweating.
I was there. I'm a PSU fan. And I was sweating after Starocci's match because I thought he'd get bonus points and knowing PSU had a NCAA final rematch @ 197 and Cass beat Kerk I think the prior 3 times.
@@Spanky7 what’s up with the thank you / you’re welcome ? We are penn state is OK but that is the corniest thing ever. Even Parsons was half assed embarrassed doing it.
@@saljablo2767 that chant has been around forever, it gets old though when you hear it the entire match
@@Spanky7 not to mention the constant “stalling!” Chants from guys who look like they never played a sport in their lives.
@@saljablo2767 you must have been sitting in my section 😂 had this big old loudmouth screaming stalling anytime someone got to their feet 🤦♂️
Sorry but there was no statement made.
Penn State has FOUR returning National Champs. They have a 5th who's likely the favorite at HWT. They have a 157 who I believe will be in the top 4 and could win it(he's my pick). And Beau Bartlett is a contender. Not likely, but not a shock if you see him in the Semi's or Finals.
So it's 125-Nothing.
165-Facundo could easily AA and Van Ness who could ALSO AA.
And Penn State had TWO guys who were impressive. Kerkvliet and MAYBE Haines just because it was his first match in that environment or RBY who was gonna walk away with a decision until a bad shot by Teske.
Brooks beat a 157/165 pound backup.
Starroci wrestled a guy who's a fringe top 20 Wrestler.
Penn State looked good, but for a team with a 5X, 4X, 3X, 2X and then Kerk who could win 3X. You got bonus points at TWO of those and it took a 157 Wrestling one of the best 184 we've seen in a while(I guess since Ruth at least).
Terrible duel.
How about some Navy & Colat coverage?
Why can't Carr win the Hodge Trophy? Because Spencer and RBY look so dominant? Starocci (this is the guy for me - Starocci could be the 1st ever 5-timer!!!!!)? I think if Carr can come through 165 and especially if he beats Keegan in the final, he can certainly make a strong case as 165 is hands down the toughest division this year.
I think Haines is amazing, but just curious do you think they should have saved his red shirt
Dang no talk of Minnesota vs Illinois a match up with a combined 17 ranked wrestlers.
For the most part it was boring. On a different subject, who else thinks Bryce Andonian is going to be a national champion this year?
That would not surprise me at all
Brooks and RBY produced most of PSUs takedowns and other than those two PSU did not have that many more TD than Iowa. Hats off to PSU for doing what they needed to do to win.
I hate when a match is decided by riding time. Especially when the top wrestler throws in both boots and just flattens the guy out and makes no attempt to turn him.
U forgot about the OU wrestler John Wiley beating the #9 guy as a redshirt freshman
Not much mind blowing about that dual.
See you in Tulsa 3rd weekend in March 🤘💯
I’m telling you guys it’s the rules of wrestling that’s failing us not the wrestlers. Change it to a 6 minute march get replace riding time with a new rule where if you ride for 30 seconds your opponent can’t get an escape point so now you can let them up after 30 seconds so more people wrestle on their feet instead of doing a boring ride where they stall for 2 minutes instead
You may be on to something about that 30 second riding rule.
149 is a crazy weight class this year 😂🤣. Wow …
What’s mind blowing is his takes… I’ve tried to like him for so long but he’s a homer beyond belief! Spencer “almost got pinned” Okay, stop…
I miss watching marinelli, Desanto, kememer, and even kaleb young. Even though he was kinda boring wrestler haha but those boys vs penn states boys were fun to watch.
If Gomez doesn’t get hurt while wrestling Northwestern Badgers win the Duel!
Neither team was very offensive
I'm definitely not disagreeing with you on how many national champs Penn St may have, but you said possibly 7. Using that same logic though, could you also say Iowa also has 7 using that dual as the gauge? Lee, Woods, Murin (who beat one of your 7 yo mentioned, 157 and 174 who were right with PSU's guys, Warner, Cassiopi? I know it's a stretch but...
Yeah, Both teams made a Statement, here is how you STALL out. Aside from some of the questionable calls, which come with every dual, the Stalling on both Sides was just nauseating, And really was Spencer almost pinned, or did he over-extend and have to quickly react and turn it around. I get his Match versus Okie State is what people point to, but remember he was thrown in the Purdue Match as well, but gathered himself and fixed the issue with a Sienor's composure. And yes you are exaggerating a lot buddy, but we all get it, you're a Penn State fan, so we will allow 😂😂😂
If Spencer Lee comes out and gets the pin its whole different match, you could see the disappointment on everyones faces after that tech fall, gave RBY motivation to get the fall
No, Iowa just got beat up. Get more than 2 takedowns in a dual meet.
Spencer Lee has had an issue with getting behind early.. eventually it's going to catch up to him.. somebody will end up pinning him
So I correctly guessed 8 of the 10 matches and I correctly guessed 6 of the 10 outcomes. I would have had 7 of 10 but no one expected a 174lbs to take on Brooks at 184.
If you pay attention there are no real surprises it seems until the NCAA championships.
Unfortunately we don’t have a DeSanto to cause a idk which way it’s gonna go type situation.
Still great to watch but fully predictable.
Kinda sucks DeSanto wasn’t there to wrestle RBY. I mean he probably would’ve lost anyways but it would’ve been a better match up.
Defense soap for when they parade 150 people across the wrestling mat with shoes on.
Too much defense soap
Spencer would have pinned him though. The refs were extremely quick to call PD on all of his pinning combos.
Yes.
You can’t wrestle defensively and expect to win (please read this Facundo - you are better than you showed).
Real Woods looks bigger than a 141 pounder. Beau Bartlett will beat him next time. Shane Van Ness and Facundo are going to be much better after this. Nelson Brands didn't want to wrestle.
Yes, Real Woods did look huge but I'm not so sure Bartlett beats him next time, Woods is wrestling very well right now and if he can keep it up he's my pick for NCAA champ.
Nelson Brands both impressed and disappointed me if that makes any sense.
@@jessem_i31 Real Woods is definitely wrestling very well. I just think Beau has made a lot of improvement since last season and I think he learns from every match. Of course, it doesn't hurt having the best coaches around him.
It makes sense about Brands. He did only hold Brooks to a decision but I really feel he didn't want to take any chances.
Can we talk about how bad warner has been for Iowa this year… buddy must be off the rails 🤠
I have to totally disagree. Nelson went out there to win. He’s not the 16th best wrestler in that weight class.
One more month of regular season wrestling until conference and national championships 😁😁
Shout out to Michigan's Cam Amine big win over Ohio State
Iowa scored 2 takedowns 😂
Brands was stalling WHAT? it was the exact opposite!
I just rewatched and took notes. Carter had 9 shot attempts (legit attempts, not level changes, etc) in the first 2 rounds. Brands had 2. Yes, Carter stalled the last 30 seconds when he had a warning to give but up until than he was way more offensive. All Brands did was push and pull on the head. Even when he snapped the head he kept his feet planted in 1 spot so he obviously wasn't trying anything more than to tire him out.
You really should put the pipe down and step away from the drugs
@@christopherroth7239 your right
Yea it was a little anti climatic
Dude, do one product placement spot and be done. That was one of the worst attempts at shoehorning product into your talking points and makes me want to stop watching you and never buying anything from defense soap. Please rethink the way you do this. Thank you. Otherwise I love your content, you can tell you love wrestling and are truly excited about all these matches.
Brands was stalling against Starrocci?
Stop it.
I can count on one finger the number of shots he took.
It was a great dual but let’s be real the refs were ultra cautious at 125 with the potentially dangerous. Obviously PSU did a lot of complaining prior to the match.
Then 197 Dean is twisting Warner’s knee with no issue.
Not a fan of either team but PSU clearly gets all the calls.
Imo PSU looked pretty flat and Iowa looked pretty sharp.. and PSU still won by a solid margin.
Penn state always fun to watch but yet max dean takes the cake again as the most boring wrestler
Come on now. We can’t act like Starocci shouldn’t have gotten a stall call. Yet somehow PSU didn’t get a single stall call. But IOWA got several. I call BS. That bs stall call won Starocci the match.
in the last 30 seconds maybe he should've got one but brands should've got like 6 against him through the entire match. Starocci took what felt like 20 shots and brands took none until the last 30 seconds. Carter tried to wrestle him but brands did nothing for 6 and a half minutes
Carter Starocci is very unlikable. Surprised to see he’s very cocky, while wrestling under Cael.
Your crazy
He’s not cocky at all
He talks a big game on social media but he is an incredibly nice guy. Im a Penn State student and he will stay after matches forever to take pics, autographs, talk etc. He is a very nice dude despite his social media presence.
@@cherylfrymire1907 kinda is ngl
He’s in his junior year and will likely get his 3rd ncaa title . He needs to continue doing what he’s doing and acting however he’s acting.
Penn state wrestling has become incredibly conservative and boring.
I'm bored by all the winning.
bc u don’t see them lose 😂
Did you even watch the match? Iowa by far was the much more conservative team, Woods doesn’t even know how to wrestle outside of the first round.
I think thats a crazy take especially in the context of this dual where Iowa scored a total of 2 takedowns among the 10 matches. Just bc its not the same as Nolf and Nickal doesn't mean they're boring. PSU has just been spoiled with those guys in the past so when scores are close people come up with stuff like this.
Well, they're there to do well and win.
David taylor wearing that ball cap because hes bald now
snooze fest, Iowa game plan was to not engage and no bonus attempts
PSU obliterates Iowa once again...if you like 2nd place FOREVER go ahead to Iowa fellas!
first
No way was I vs p a snooze fest. It was a really good dual… really good, not great but a really good one that I was thinking about even the next day. Probably the best I’ve seen this season if I factor in the crowd. I didn’t find it suspenseful because the Brands are outdated coaches and PSU wrestlers are more advanced
Also, I understand you are making a living but ease up on the defense soap info commercial….it’s not a good look
Sorry 1st 2 matches remind me of professional wrestling vs the scrub guy...those 2 had nothing to prove, instead could have been match of the year
Boring.
I know it’s fun to think Spencer almost got pinned… but as you can see, as soon as he was about to get turned he broke out of that right away. All that did was just piss him off
Bro less defenses soap.
Max Murin just seems like he's been around forever. I hope he makes the finals this year.
Needs to move on.
@@daytonasayswhat9333 He does, but he's not the only guy having his, what, 6th year in college? Plus the kid has always been a grinder, I'd like to see him enjoy at least a finals appearance before graduating, and I'm not even a Hawkeye fan.
@@genghiskhan7041 I don’t mean that is a critique to him, necessarily. Just this college wrestling “industry” that has popped up where people are in college 6 to 9 years. It should be four years the normal. Maybe one red shirt for extenuating circumstances here and there. Then you move on. This is so ridiculous.
This was Van Ness’ first major test of the season?
Please, stop exaggerating and sensationalizing. Maybe it’s just your schtick.
If you’re going to exaggerate, then talk about the exaggeration-don’t exaggerate in the first place.