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It would be so cool if there was a professional wrestling league again
Well there is the UWW there are international rankings
It's called WWE
it's coming in 2024!
Where did he go?
Another thing that makes NIL and transfer portal crazy in College Wrestling, is guys can compete right away. No need to l"earn the system" like in football and basketball.
It's an individual sport.
Who cares?
You hit the nail on the head. Without parity smaller programs or less competitive programs will cancel. Once they cancel we have less competition and less of a chance of finding diamonds in the rough or surprise AA’s and NC’s in some cases.
I love the sport more than a specific program as any wrestling fan should.
How to fix… NIL is not available for transfers and incoming freshmen. Only AA’s and upper classmen. You do that and athletes can’t be lured away or recruited just by money (at least legal out in the open money).
I’m the guy rooting for schools like Boise St, Fresno St, Oregon, Clemson to bring their programs back and have wrestlers from Edinboro competing for NC’s again. I’m the guy who wants to see new programs and maybe SEC and USC/UCLA inclusion in the future.
First of all...this has ALWAYS been the case. Iowa used their success to be able to run massive camps, Gable would take his studs like Brands, Mcllravy, etc...of scholarship as after their 2nd year, pay them for the camps and then they would pay their own tuition.
So Iowa, Okie State...they had huge advantages.
Then Minnesota started doing the same when they had the J-Rob camps.
Nothing has really changed. The LeHigh type schools have never been contenders, PSU has just replaced Iowa as the premiere program.
@@scourge8097 All true
There have always been dominant programs and always will be. Try telling someone they cannot make NIL money based o0n transfer status. That would get shot down as quickly as the rule was instituted.
@scourge wow...I didn't know that! Very informative. These coaches will always find a loophole to get an edge by cheating...and that is cheating. NCAA should just mandate an equal number of wrestling scholarships for every school and make all schools pool a percentage of their athletic profits toward those scholarships.
@Drama King No, it was NOT cheating...Gable would live on the line, but NEVER cross it.
It was 100% by the book. You can pay Wrestlers for camps...and when you're the top program, you can draw a whole lot of kids for a whole lot of money.
Those J-Rob camps got huge.
Another thing that happens is guys just...show up and want to Wrestle for you.
Gable didn't even have to try and get some top guys. Tom Ryan literally just showed up at Iowa, told Gable he wanted to Wrestle there(after two years at Syracuse and being a high see after his Soph year)...and then he is in the finals losing 7-6 to Pat Smith on his way to 4. Another guy like Alger...but not Alger did the same. Gable didn't even recruit them, top recruit just went to school there.
Now look at Penn States recruits? You have the Mirasola twins coming in despite higher ranked recruits in Barr and Ryder at the same weights.
That PSU program is on auto-pilot right now. Cael built it perfectly and it is just growing and building on itself.
And the NLWC being able to pay wages and have like...18 of 30 Open Finalists certainly helped.
Excellent video. Explained everything very well and I agree with pretty much everything said👍🏼
Great video. I appreciate this channel and all the work you put into it.
Interesting info and view on NIL. Thank you for another great video Josiah
Jeremiah, you did a great job transitioning to advertising and back, like a real pro.
Uhh he is a pro.. literally lol
Josiah is THE source!!
Who's Jeremiah? The host is Josiah. I agree -- nice ad cut!
I'm pretty sure he does youtube and the like full-time as his main source of income. So, quite literally, he is a professional.
Every video you do is killer, nice job!
Top talent concentrates into very few schools, regardless of the money. In NCAA history only 12 schools have won team titles. Half of them are nowhere near the top rankings today. Ask any NCAA champ from the past 3 years if they would have gone to Wyoming or App State if not for a sponsorship deal with a Big 10 school. No chance. The best athletes go to the best programs.
If anything, the NIL might give incentive to move away from the top programs to a place where they have more value. Even D3 can get in on the action. Imagine what a high school All-American could get to wrestle DIII at NYU or Hunter College.
The only danger I see is if schools recruit in bunches and market a group of people as one entity. Think the Four Horsemen at Notre Dame or the Fab 5 at Michigan.
NIL is good. The NCAA pocketing all of the money from athletes was disgusting. All of the jealous people acting as if a "free" education was compensation enough are ignorant. Caitlyn Clark made $1 million during the NCAA tournament last year. Crazy that Tim Tebow, Zion, etc. made absolutely no money when they were selling jerseys and tickets. Sucks for newer teams absolutely. It is what it is
Great job Jeremiah keep the videos coming
Just had a talk with my coach NIL also helps D3 programs since they can’t give scholarships
When has Wrestling EVER had 2nd tier programs that were truly competitive in the team race?
It was ALWAYS dominated by a program that was building a dynasty. The CLOSEST we've come to having NCAA Tournaments where it was competitive year over year Cael's final 2-3 years at Iowa State.
Gable won 16 in 21 years. Okie State and Minnesota then went on a run in the late 90s/early aughts and then it was Iowa again, then became PSU.
This isn't "killing Wrestling."
It's a HUUUUGE benefit. Think of all the athletes that wrestling loses to football. When there is money to be made in wrestling, a borderline starter decides to take a chance in wrestling. Maybe Ben Kueter doesn't play football at all, and just wrestles. One of the hard things to do, economically, is to get wrestlers established. If Real Woods gets $200k from wrestling, that means he comes out debt free, with a solid financial footing. He can then pay it forward to the next generation, instead of paying interest on loans to the banks.
You don't even have to be a small school to be effective by the NIL deal...Gophers lost a stud at 133 after the last NCAAs to Penn State!
You should do a video on the rule changes
You said this all changed, "When the NCAA passed a rule". Probably should have led with all this starting after the supreme court ruled in favor of college athletes receiving monies for their likeness.
This
NIL is good but needs to be heavily regulated. The reason these kids go to the highest bidder is because of the new transfer rules. I know recruits are being promised all kinds of things but at the end of the day there needs to be some kind of accountability for their decisions. I think a step in the right direction would be a return of the one-time transfer rule.
I could be wrong, but regulating money doesn’t work. There will be ways around any and every rule. If there are any doubts, people can pick up the paper on any given day and read about a political scam.
You really do have a great show.
Lol half these numbers just make no sense. There’s like 2 guys in college who bring financial value to a program. I’m not buying these other guys being paid 6 figures.
As much as I like the idea of a pro wrestling league, it seems too boring. MMA is the best option. Its extremely exciting and as for someone who wrestled his whole life and grew with a dad as a coach and brothers who wrestled, we all went to BJJ. Some of us did boxing and muay thai. At the end of the day a pro wrestling seems too generic. MMA is your best bet. I love to see high-level UFC guys using their wrestling background along with other skills they acquired after their wrestling careers.
no wrestling should remain it is a great sport and not alot of people can compete
I said this before. When an AA transfer from a smaller school to a bigger school. The big school should have to pay the small school the for the athlete, like cover his previous scholarship.
North Carolina HIGH SCHOOL ASSOCIATION is also ALLOWING NIL Money negotiations for HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES! Gonna change some signings.
I know it's been early, but have we noticed any correlation between NIL and graduation rates?
Since there will be very few large deals, multiple, smaller deals will be more the norm. And if that is true, then schools in larger cities will have an advantage.
Yo Franco do you think 🤔 that American 🇺🇸 wrestling will benefit off of a professional league? Why or why not
idk, I appreciate the perspective but this was expected and I personally was hesitant but okay with it cause at least the athletes will start getting paid. I'm hoping it's a step in the right direction but I suppose I don't really know
Why have your videos stopped coming?
if it’s great for the athletes how could it ever be bad for the sport the only thing bad for the sport is the closing of programs
Big stars and star programs draw more viewers than anything which helps grow the sport and now with NIL and the portal our stars get more opportunities for exposure
NIL is amazing and it’s going to force the whole corrupt NCAA to adapt or die.
This!
I think we need a limit, 1 maybe 2 transfers being allowed per school
Couple thoughts here. First, I see no negative in letting athletes freely transfer. You hear about this in sports like MMA all the time. Fighters switch camps to help improve their skill set or perhaps they just needed new training partners and a fresh set of coaching eyes. That benefits the athletes to perform at their best, which should be the intent of the NCAA. I understand programs may lose guys that can help build their reputation, but that is really the job of the AD and coaching staff, not the athletes.
Secondly, wrestling is notorious for its lack of scholarships. If an athlete goes to PSU and gets $250k/yr you could probably save the scholarship for athletes that truly need it. I don't see how this doesn't benefit everyone, more $ means better product.
Finally, the world has shrunk. Being 35 in NJ my options to watch top wrestlers weekly to learn and integrate into my style was limited. Today, I can watch basically every major program and look up videos talking about it. This will naturally lead to more fans of programs and individuals, which creates NIL opportunities. This is good for the sport as it will continue to drive young wrestlers to improve.
Bottom line: more $ will increase the quality of the product and help grow the sport. That's a wonderful thing, even if some smaller programs feel like they are missing out.
Great video, Franco.
Everyone who has commented has raised excellent points.
My primary questions are how many wrestlers actually have NIL deals? Which wrestlers specifically? Has it really made a large difference in recruiting so far? Once the NCAA gets ahold of it, it will become more restrictive. So you can make the argument that its impact has probably already peaked.
Also, whether it be for $1, $100K or $10 million, I don’t see Real Woods finishing up anywhere but Iowa. LOL
Regarding alumni’s paying recruits and schools leveraging who has the better NIL deal, I really don’t see that happening to guys who aren’t already bouncing back and forth between schools like Ohio State, Iowa, PSU. So I don’t think it will hurt smaller schools.
On a side note: As someone who grew up watching wrestlers like Mark Schultz voluntarily live in poverty so they could dedicate themselves full-time to their international training, the thought of returning to an era where wrestlers are limited financially in any way makes me cringe.
That mintmobile segue was flawless!
Griffith going to Michigan
With the amount of money floating around from NIL, kids have to be able to hire agents. And the agents need to be regulated. The rule up to now didn’t allow agents until the player decided to turn pro and leave the school.
Guys are transferring to Penn state because they go against the best competition at practice every single day. Aaron brooks wrestled with David Taylor and Kyle dake every day of his life
The biggest issue ALL wrestling programs face has been (and as long as it exists) is Title IX. The new NIL rules will have some impact but not nearly as brutal as Title IX. The solution would be add a women’s program to go along with the men’s program at every college. The NIL also allows more opportunity IMO for smaller schools in the sense that local businesses can now include their local college wrestlers in their ad campaigns and promotions. While NIL does make larger schools more appealing it can also help smaller schools too. Title IX is still the real threat and adding women’s teams will end it. We need a bigger push in the wrestling community for more women’s teams.
Honestly I think there shouldn't be any restrictions on how a student athlete gets paid. IMO the smaller schools will benefit from the NIL deals in this way: the kids that come to their program truly love wrestling and there will be more money in the form of scholarships to go around. Wrestling already gets a smaller number of full rides allocated to their programs, so if you get a big name athlete in your smaller programs you will have to give them more scholarship money. Without those guys in the program you can have more partial scholarships to get a more well rounded program and coaching staffs will have a better opportunity to actually build the skills of the wrestlers because they will stick around for 4, 5 or 6 years. Yes all the high power wrestlers will be at the big schools, but is that really that much different then it ever was?
iowa apologist, brands is a crybaby, WE ARE
Are you not doing UA-cam anymore?
Anybody can spend any amount of money on recruiting anyone in the nation. Everyday national champions are being made in every wrestling room. You’re a product of your environment, the environments not a product of you..
Spender Lee witnessed this first hand, when his environment changed he walked away..
Griffith went to Michigan didn't he?
Clemson lost their program I believe because the head coach did some shady things not budget cuts. At least that's what I heard
I was told that Iowa hosted a GoFundMe to raise money to bring Real Woods to the school. This comes from what I consider a fairly reliable source.
Yes the dude with the Pokémon avatar is a reliable source 😂😂
I like your channel, but there's no need to make so many camera cuts. Your vids are good enough just bringing content. Just my opinion.
Wrestlers making money is a great thing. Definitely still in its infancy and the rules need to be worked out a bit
It's for sure happening
My favorite UA-camr
I think NIL is good, ur the GOAT
I think NIL is good, but it needs to be consistent across the country
I think it's about time because these colleges have been profiting off of these young athletes for many many years through sponsorships through games through whatever likenesses and players numbers and jerseys and all that stuff so it's about f****** time. But it would also be very cool to not only see a professional level wrestling program other than the US sponsored wrestling with again has so many damn rules against making money. So it's time for wrestling to make a transition. RLTW 3/75
We need a Fanco 50 incoming freshmen
I agree with this whole video
Um need a sweet NIL deal, get a hold of me
Work the pay plan.. good for all the athletes
Stop on
Do you disagree?
Americans need more Greco clubs anyway? GRECO STRONG
Just became a Fan this year of college wrestling. Got into and now I'm out. I'm a huge Gopher fan and after Nagao's move I'm done.
Then you aren’t a wrestling fan, rather, a team supporter.
@@robertwestover2125 Funny you must be a Penn State Fan?
Cael should be a billionaire
who cares catch up or get left behind
The transfer portal combined with NIL will kill smaller programs. There will he no one left to wrestle each other but Iowa and Penn State. Time to sanction schools from the post season and take scholarships if they're caught abusing the portal and/or NIL with tampering. I'm a PSU fan but I'm not for PSU fleecing other schools of talent...and I'm not saying PSU is found anything wrong, they didn't create this mess
Do not forget Michigan and who they added this year and how:
Nil good
Dont like NIL but I dont like even more ncaa exploiting athletes for profits…so NIL is lesser of two evils
transfer portal is worse than NIL for us the fans but its good for athletes
Michigan just paid Shane griffith lol
NIL NIL NIL NIL NIL NIL is the only way
I think NIL is good
Wont kill the sport. Makes it more exciting. Are we going to act like the sport has been full of parity? How many schools have won a national title before this? This gives athletes a reason to wreslte and not be temtped into mma and wwe due to needing a check.
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click bait
Bruh, why are you counting other peoples money? There is already a discrepancy in coaching pay and facilities, because certain schools athletic programs generate way more than others. That is never going to change. So just let the athletes do what’s best for business for them.
College athletics is an unfair playing field. Don’t overthink it.
So should a guy named Karl….think he came from Nutley 😂
Capitalism is great for America if the small can’t keep up that’s their problem
That is what Chinese say about you little guy
WWF
Lol ohio can employ these athletes . The donors don't even have 2
It's terrible for college sports. Best team money can buy.
Just needs fine tuning. Definitely not terrible to pay athletes that are barely getting by. It'll take time with amendments and adjusting policies but, at the minimum sponsorships don't hurt anyone at all. Making and selling your own merch should be completely allowed.
That’s capitalism why are we ever against people making a living for themselves
@@vegetaAcheetah I think you are 110% right. :)
@Blankcheck22 it's great for wrestlers but not good for the sport.
@@richvitale8405 if it’s great for the athletes how could it ever be bad for the sport the only thing bad for the sport is the closing of programs
Big stars and star programs draw more viewers than anything which helps grow the sport and now with NIL and the portal our stars get more opportunities for exposure
Griffith is a poor example. Shame on Fanco Wrestling. It's widely known that Griffith is transferring primarily for graduate studies, not extracurricular athletic opportunities.
Yes, very fair. However, he is still a transfer. It should be noted I'm in full support of being allowed to transfer schools. But, these situations are happening.