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If John Carpenter knows what's good for him he'll never tell us who the Thing is at the end of the movie. He knows full well that the fascination with that movie is that there is no clear answer. And it should stay that way.
Cause I think Blair was infected in multiple ways, but all were done internally and slow. For example he had the dog thing dna because he put that infected pencil in his mouth, and for sure he was infected by McCready Vodka too.
Definitely one of Carpenter's best, if not the very best. Ennio Morricone's subtle and spooky Score is also one of my favorite parts about it. Everyone in the cast was in their prime and their performances really sell the terror and paranoia throughout the film. An all-time classic.
@@Rykiz_VidzRight on. Top 3 for me, at least. Don't really have a number one because it's just too tough to call. MacReady, Snake Plissken, Jack Burton.. (Funny enough, ☝🏻.. those are all Carpenter characters😅)
If John Carpenter knows what's good for him he'll never tell us who the Thing is at the end of the movie. He knows full well that the fascination with that movie is that there is no clear answer. And it should stay that way.
I would like your comment if you considered rephrasing it, so it may not sound like a threat. Carpenter has in interviews expressed his opinion on this matter: he knows perfectly who he had in mind, as the remaining Thing, but he appears to have no intention of sharing it, and reducing that last tension from a perfect film's legacy.
@@jamescrawford1534 Yes he walked the comments back. And for good reasons. Even Kurt Russell said it was never supposed to have a definitive answer because THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT. You as the audience member are supposed to become as paranoid as the character itself. It's one of the best horror film movies ever.
Even the drink at the end isn't a tell. They're both totally fd (if human) once the fire burns out so it wouldn't matter what the rules were and a drink before you die... Totally normal.
@@gerryheddema2555 That wasn't a threat. How overly sensitive or paranoid must someone be to see a statement of a fact as a threat? He might have had someone in mind but he and Kurt Russell during filming agreed to keep it ambiguous. That way we feel exactly what MacReady feels. No matter what he had in mind he changed it in order to to have the intended effect. And that is also the only logical ending. Even if he told us tomorrow who he originally intended it's irrelevant. That was not how he and Kurt thought by the end of the movie. They knew what had to be done and that was to keep it vague.
A thing everyone seems to miss is that Palmer was always shown smoking weed. In every scene. Then he just stops. I believe the Thing doesn't like consuming poisons. So in that aspect, Since Childs willingly drank the alcohol, he was human. Since alcohol is poisonous to all cells, the Thing wouldn't attempt to kill itself.
before childs takes a drink, kurt russell was burning the place down so is it not more likely that the bottle is full of gas and what we see is the thing imitating sharing a drank but doesnt smell or taste the gas
They share drinks at the end because they're going to die anyway. They're trapped at the south pole in winter with no radio and no shelter. They have maybe an hour to live, so they might as well get hammered.
Exactly. Even if it’s not safe to share food or drink, MacReady at this point has already conceded the fact he’s got hours left to live. Childs looks like he’s about done too. The drink being full of gasoline is utter madness, MacReady wouldn’t waste a good bottle for anyone or anyTHING, he also goes to take a sip before he even see’s Childs. Not knowing if either are infected makes this one of the greatest endings of all time. The whole point of the film is not being able to guess or know who is the Thing.
The fact it was trashed by critics when it was first released, found its first home with the cult fan base and rose to greatness as being appreciates ad one of the best films of all time, on par with Kubrick’s The Shining show just how great a movie it is. Hell, the fact we’re still talking about it and trying to dissect it over 40 years later says everything.
Fun fact ….the unknown silhouette actor was actually Dick Warlock, a stunt coordinator (also a stunt double for Kurt Russell in many films) that was Michael Myers in Halloween II and an android in Halloween III. It’s also funny cause they have characters named “Mac” and “Windows” lol
I don't buy the idea that those taken over by the Thing don't know it. Same goes for the idea that the Thing only assimilates someone because it's being attacked. Otherwise, the dog wouldn't have assimilated anyone at the beginning of the original movie. Also, the fact that the dog, being attacked by the Norwegian from the helicopter, didn't reveal its nature by defending itself, indicates that this is not the way it works. You even explained how the blood test scene showed that the guy who'd been assimilated had a smirk on his face, as if he knew he was caught out, while everyone else was just staring. As far as Childs possibly being the Thing just because he drank from the bottle after Mac, the entire place was burning down, they both knew they were going to die in a few hours, so fear of assimilation wouldn't be an issue at that point.
The Coat Hanger thing is actually more of an Inconsistent moment as they forgot what the set up looked like during filming between shots And the HD release of the film shows Childs is wearing his original coat but it's covered in Frost. As well as His breath As the Bennings Thing even has Breath
I was gonna say if we’re going with that he stole a lighter coat to hide the fact that he was attacked. There are no lighter coats that are missing from the rearrangement of the coats so that might be a wash. I think what you’re saying is corrected. It’s not a hint.
8:14 Those are called 'snow goggles', early design before polarization of lenses became cheap and common. Fun fact, snow goggles imitate the irises of bovine creatures most on the lookout for predators while grazing.
Probably my all-time favourite sci-fi horror. Has everything you could ask for. Casting. Acting. The pinacle of practical effects (lets not mention the stop motion). Tension building atmosphere and score. Open ending.... Just perfection.
This Production Had The Blessings Of A Myrad Of Talent, Time & Work Put In. Rob Bottin Practically Lived At The Studio Creating & Perfecting. Stan Winston Helped As Well.
The scene from the 1980s version where they chase it out into the snow as it's still trying to replicate one of the crew and the terror I always get when it looks at them with cold black eyes and elongated fingers with razor sharp teeth letting out a blood chilling scream as they burn it.
Every time I show some young person this movie they have a very visceral reaction to the effects. Even the not so good 80s effects look still so plastic and palpable it evokes a reaction of disgust like no other decade. Some of the makeup in Hellraiser doesn't really look realistic but it looks disgusting. And it's exactly that reaction I never see them express with today's movie's CG effects. It's just something deeply different.
Gary wasn't at all " cowardly". It only makes tactical sense to stay in cover/ concealment. There are people that would jump out to give the enemy a " fair chance". We call these people " idiots". Also, were he to go to a door to go outside and face down the lunatic shooting all " high noon " style , he would have given the man more chances to shoot Gary's UNARMED coworkers. And he's wrong about the thing keeping to itself unless attacked. It attacks the dogs, unprovoked. It attacks Bennings unprovoked. It assimilates Norris, leading to his death. It Attacks Fuchs, as far as we know, unprovoked.
iirc not being able to see Childs breathing in the final scene is also not intended, and it makes sense that even if he was infected, it would still release vapor on exhaling.
The Bennings Thing clearly has visible breath right before being burned. The breath test and the eye glint test that the fans like to use for this movie are both bunk
It's actually an issue with the fidelity of the recording and the darkness within the scene. If you watch the HD version you can see Childs breath which was in the original, you just can't see it.
Your breakdown of The Thing was the reason I finally sat down and watched it. It's easily one of the best horror movies ever made. The body horror is peak, and the story is tight. As always, great work, Paul. Cheers.
Absolutely love the Prequel! Watch it more than I should! I remember loving it originally when all my friends didn't. Who now do! They were assimilated over time. Yeah I said it. Great Video!
I always presumed that he got the heart attack by getting turned by the thing, but you raise quite an interesting alternative/add-on there mate, good point!
@@helturflippad Well in a way he did, If Norris hadn't been turned, he would have still had the heart attack at the same time due to all the stress of crazy shit that had been happening. So in a way the Thing was responsible, but not due to the biological changes.
My take is that neither character is The Thing at the end. The film uses strange behavior of human characters, to make you think they’re the alien, when in reality, they were just scared. The choice to have Childs survive with MacReady, Being another attempt you make you suspect one of them is the Thing. Childs takes it personally when Macready begins taking extreme measures, calling him a murderer after Clark is confirmed to be human. So when Childs asks “Are *you* the only one who made it?” It isn’t a hint he isn’t human. Rather, how much less human MacReady is in the eyes of Childs. We the viewers, have spent the most time with MaCready, We’re partial to siding with him, despite how many mistakes he’s made throughout the movie. So when the character at odds with him, conveniently returns after being lost in a storm, We’re just as suspicious as the character we’re seeing the movie through. Now, these two are the ones who survived, sharing a drink, going back to their old dynamic, Despite both having seen the worst In eachother. The tension going beyond whether one of them is an alien, who can’t be taken back to society, But whether or not the people they are, deserve to be in society.
My take is that they are both the thing but neither of them realize that the other one is also the thing. It's poetic that humanity infected the monster at the end, instilling the distrust that the humans have all been feeling since the beginning. Everything you mentioned about how the characters are acting still makes sense if they are the thing as it can perfectly imitate copied people completely so personality traits are (generally) not trustworthy.
Everyone always brings up that being Blair’s method of infection but that’s just not true. He never touched the carcass with the pencil he only points with it.
The 1982 movie is in my top 10. Thank you for the detailed inspection of The Thing and the people replaced by The Thing!! Thank you for your observations! I have another reason to go back and watch it again! The 1982 film is much loved in the comments also.
In regard to the prequel, I always wondered why they didn’t call it “The Thing: Awakening” or something like that. It would have made a lot more sense then giving it the same name as the original.
That is a horrible mischaracterization of Garry. He breaks the window because he's not near a door and this gives him a clear line of sight to end a threat to the base, which he does with excellent speed and accuracy. He's actually a good leader, showing the wisdom to step down when his presence would only cause more harm than good.
So the coats were just a continuity error. If Charles was the thing, why wait and have a chat with Mcready, he had a flamethrower, why not just incinerate him. Also if you take the 2nd film as cannon. Charles still has his earring in at the end.
so, im pretty sure the liquid in the bottle at the end is rubbing alcohol, because the thing cant taste alcohol, so giving a man a drink of rubbing alcohol would naturally make him flinch, but it doesnt, hence he was taken over at that point
to further elaborate, if it mimics EVERYTHING in the human body, then its mimicing the fact thats freezing to death with mcready, so it also knew it was dying and wouldnt be aggressive for no reason
@@deaglesupinthis5968 Where, in the movie, did you learn it couldn't taste things? Rubbing alcohol is a new twist. Usually people talk about gasoline. So credit it to you there. Still. It ain't on the screen
@@deaglesupinthis5968 As for it pretending to surrender to freezing to death...The thing has survived for thousands of years frozen. The characters posit that it wants to go back to being frozen. So it doesn't have to pretend anything. If Childs or MacReady were the thing, you'd think they'd want to take over the other to have a larger possibility of being taken somewhere to thaw out and get all Thing-y with folks.
I think Childs is human because he has an earring on. The thing can't imitate piercings and fillings, right? And I think the smirk at the end w/the drink is MacReady (and Childs) realizing that they're dead anyway so sharing the drink didn't matter anymore.😬
I am old enough to remember when this came out and watched it way back when. People love it today, but imagine how much better it would be watching it when it was before all the modern technology movies use today, because it is hard to compare. Scared the absolute poo outta me in several scenes. I loved the 80's (graduated high school 88). Love the work you do... See ya punk.
@@guyjpersonthis I believe is the whole point of the movie. It puts you in the same position as the characters. You never really know exactly what’s going on but you’re constantly guessing who. Carpenter deliberately takes out just enough information to keep us guessing. Definitively telling us everything defeats that purpose (although I do love all the theories).
Do we ever see Childs drink alcohol before the end? If he has never had alcohol would the thing know the taste? I don't remember. I'll have to watch the film again
@@jeffrey7282000 It seems unlikely that he'd never have had alcohol in his life, although it's very plausible he didn't drink at all once he was at the base since it was his place of work and he could have felt it was unprofessional to drink on the job.
4:44 i recall hearing the "light in the eyes" detail being specified to apply solely to the blood test scene. So, it may not apply outside of that context
The guy who played the shadow is Dick Warlock (chief robot from Halloween 3). He appears 3 times in the Thing. The shadow, “Blair” running from the destroyed helicopter (Wilford did not travel to the filming location, almost making a fourth wall break with “where’s Blair?”) and as a Norwegian scientist in the black and white photo.
In regards to Childs, the coats being in different locations in-between these shots was only a mistake in set dressing department. Carpenter has stated this in interviews. People also grasp at the notion that you can see MacReady's breath, but not Childs, proving that Childs is the thing. The problem is, you can see Childs breath, it's just not as obvious as MacReady's because they shot the dialogue between the two characters separately and edited the two together. It was simply because the temperature was lower when they filmed Kurt Russel's part. Carpenter also said this in an interview. I've always strongly believed that the reason Mac was smirking is because he knows that they are both likely to die at this point, regardless, so in the end, it doesn't matter if they trust each other or not. It's just dark humor. As for the prequel, the alien ship looked nothing like the one in the Carpenter film. Neither did Lars or the dog. It's like they didn't even try in those departments. The two people merging to create the split face thing is all wrong. Rob Bottin said that the creature he created for the Carpenter film was one person's face stretching apart. The less I say about the prequel the better.
It doesn’t even make sense that you wouldn’t see breath from the Thing. It’s a near perfect copy with working organs. And it’s talking, aka exhaling. Of course it would be breathing.
@@Gunnar001 Exactly. It's warm and full of moisture like a normal living human or animal so of course it would show visible breath and even water vapour rising off its body in a cold environment.
I remember in 1998 when I was in high school being told by my science teacher the science of The Thing is more plausible than ET, Aliens, Predator and that scared me
Man, I don't know.... Id say Gigers, Alien is based in most reality. I mean in the sense that apart from acid blood, the aliens really act, behave and live like giant insects. Where as "the thing", imo is more akin to a giant virus, the way it replicates down to a cellular level in order to disguise and facilitate spreading of itself......
@@wajidhussain5305Am I missing the fact that the xenomorphs were inspired by insects, which exist???? I'm aware of loads of insects and how many of them objectively do and behave like said xenos. Yet, objectively there's never been a invasive organisim that descended from space, ever. So, you have your subjective opinion. Obviously both franchises are science fiction. Aliens, is not "dark fantasy".... Twilight is dark fantasy. I could say the Thing is a body/shock horror movie, but it's not. Aliens is Science fiction horror, in exactly the same way the Thing, is science fiction horror. Objectively speaking.... What behaves like a xeno, an insect. What behaves like the Thing, a mutagenic virus. That's the stone cold facts.... My teacher once told the class when you sneeze you go unconscious... 😂
One thing that is OVER emphasized in every review I see is the "infection theory". Here is why I don't believe it counts. Fuchs mentions that everyone should eat out of cans out of caution, but the Thing never infected anyone in the film this way. It always used contact while isolated. The comic series that followed used this technique. Many theorists go way off the rails on speculation here that is just not shown in the film. Just watched this two days ago on a big screen, and to me, it does not appear that Blair actually touched the thing corpse with his pencil, just got close (the shadow under the eraser never disappears. It also does appear that he doesn't actually touchs the eraser to his lip, but just below. As for the bottle infection theories, I'm not sure that tainted saliva would survive in Vodka or Burbon given the alcohol content, but who really knows. Perhaps our white cells can kill a couple of intruding cells, unless overwhelmed through massive, forced induction. Since Carpenter and Russell didn't have the ending figured out until the end of filming, there is not deliberate trail of crumbs that we can rely on. So, we are in effect trying to navigate through a whiteout! Just my observations.
The infection theory doesn't work for me because if the thing could spread that easily then it could have blasted particles in to the air at any time for an instant total victory. For example, when everyone was all together in a small hallway. One of the few things the movie shows as an absolute fact is that it can spray fluids across an entire room at will, because that's what happens with Norris.
I liked that the thing was just killing i always thought it realized going all out didn't work so when it got to outpost 31 it decided to be more stealthy.
Exactly. That’s why the final form it takes is the dog. It unsuccessfully fit in with people, So it takes the form of a creature where it can better learn, without being detected.
Yup, as a dog, it doesnt have to communicateor answer questions. There are no expectations of it. Itdoesnt have to worry abput clothes, and it is trusted completely.
Thank you Heavy Spoilers. This film is brilliant. Perfect in every way. I think this film kickstarted my love of thriller/horror/sci fi. Thanks again dude
I didn't realize it was a remake until a few days ago and it's pretty close to the original outside of the creature itself. The original had more cast members and even a couple women in it. It was pretty much Alien before the movie Alien because the doctor was trying to save it to study it.
@@guyjpersonoriginal novella had an absolute tonne of characters so that I lost track of who was who. Blair, MacReady and (I think) Copper were all in it but I couldn’t follow anyone else.
I remember watching it for the first time and just thinking that they both survived at the end and were doomed to a slow death when the fire burnt itself out.
5:15 if you consider the prequel as canon, Childs was not the thing, he is wearing his earing and according to the prequel the thing can't replicate metal... Right?... Right!? 😵💫😆
I listened to Rob Ager 1 hour analysis. He mentioned the backpack McReady had at the end. The back pack was the torch gun. In other words McReady was waiting for Charles to torch him. Who destroyed the blood? It was obviously the guy who was making the new spaceship at the end.
The poster in the backround at 14:00 isn't an ID card, it's a condom. That was an sti awareness poster saying that the ones with STIs aren't labelled. A bunch of men with tainted blood and uncertainty in a film in the 80s? Yeah, it's referencing the panic around AIDS which has become prominent the year before this came out, and would have been all over the news when carpenter was refining script and waiting to begin shooting.
Shout out man your the reason I watched this for the film for 1st time a year ago. Your OG videos are why I subscribed and have been watching since This movie is fucking amazing
I was Working in a foreign country when this movie came out, I didn’t even hear about it. I saw it on a streaming platform and thought it was a remake. I was disappointed in the first 20 minutes because it was so different, but then realized it was a prequel and fell in love. Great movie.
Child’s had an earring in the ending, I figured mcgready laughed cause he infected child after passing him the liquor , then the song plays too, he would be fine with freezing cause the thing can reanimate from a frozen state
Great breakdown Paul. The Thing is one of my top 10 movies. I liked Campbell story that served as the source, but also see a lot of similarities to Lovecrafts mountain of madness (Please SOMEONE give Del Toro the budget to do Mountains.) The best thing about the OG Thing is that we are still talking and arguing today about it. Just. Damn fine movie. And Paul your section around slasher films the group is safest together where in Thing, that’s where they were most vulnerable was fantastic
I've never been a fan of horror movies. The only exceptions I've ever made to this are The Thing, The Fly and Invasion of the Body Snatchers, all of which being the 1980-ish versions of them. With that, The Thing tops the list.
Love this breakdown. There’s another movie by John Carpenter that I absolutely loved, and I’m convinced only my older brother and I saw it and loved it. Prince of Darkness! Sure it has flaws but what a fun movie to discuss. My brother and I spent hours one day cooking up with a sequel explaining the communications from the future. So fun.
11:10 ish Blair got infected by the pencil, he realized his mistake when he saw the simulation, and ransacked the radio room before the infection had a chance to spread. Best horror movie ever, 1000+ times i've watched and analyzed ..... Childs is the thing. No question.
it's just a special, spectacular masterpiece. even when you've seen it 20 times and u know where the thing is hiding it's still engaging and enjoyable to watch. I would love a really well made remake of it.. something that went on to explore the creature itself in more depth and show off it's different forms or maybe what happens when it comes into contact with civilisation, and everyone is paranoid of everyone.
For many years I took the approach that many take now, that there is one definitive order of events and assimilations. Try watching it again turning everything you believe upside down. Make Norris or Blair the shadow on the wall, watch Blair’s destruction of comms equipment as a human if you think he was a thing by that point or vice versa, make Childs a human at the end. There is incredible rewatch value if you open your mind to different interpretations, this film is really unique in that way.
The coats are a continuity error. There's even a coat that wasn't in the original shot. The Alien went to get one? For who? The audience is the only "eye" to notice the coats. MacReady smirks because he realizes Childs ALSO thinks they've had it. It's the first time they've been congenial with each other. Childs' coat is blue with frost on it. The breath thing goes nowhere. You CAN see Childs' breath, it's just not lit. Also, the Alien thing with the weird hand earlier in the movie is blowing out TONS of breath. AND, if you're gonna accept the "no metal" thing from the prequel, you can see Childs' earring in the final scene. All of these "clues" aren't clues.
Carpenter’s The Thing is my favorite horror movie. Saw it in the theater and hid my eyes for most of the film. My sister tried to watch it at home, but when the scene with the dogs being assimilated came on, she said she backed up to the TV and turned it off. To my knowledge, she has never tried to watch it again!!!
Hey Paul, just a quick note for an idea... Would you ever consider doing a video of how you go through the process of making one of your video's? Giving a little love for and showing your crew that helps you put these together, not giving a step by step of course but just a bit of "behind the scenes of a behind the scenes video"? Much love.... Hope you and yours are well and happy, mate. See ya punk.
Did you actually watch the prequel? Because in the prequel, the thing put the earing back in his ear, which Mary Elizabeth winsteads character notices he put it in the wrong ear, thus he was a thing, so, your wrong, the things can't REPLICaTE metal, but they can and have put back possessions like earnings in there ears.😂
Watching the original for the first time now, i can say I would have had such a massive crush on Kurt Russell in the 80s. 😂 Loved the movie. The dog, Jed, was an insanely good actor as well. He creeped me out even before he turned.
"was the coat left or right? Who cares, put it where ever you wanna, nobody cares." - someone 40 years later " they wanted to tell us something with the coats"
I like the theory that the bottle child's drinks out of is actually gasoline. Being the thing he doesn't know any better. Yet Mcredy knows, hence the smirk.
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If John Carpenter knows what's good for him he'll never tell us who the Thing is at the end of the movie. He knows full well that the fascination with that movie is that there is no clear answer. And it should stay that way.
The prequel ruins The Thing.
@@anubusx Yes. Some things lose the fascination the more you explain them. Predator too.
Am I crazy or did you already do this? I’m sure I remember seeing this breakdown already.
Cause I think Blair was infected in multiple ways, but all were done internally and slow. For example he had the dog thing dna because he put that infected pencil in his mouth, and for sure he was infected by McCready Vodka too.
Definitely one of Carpenter's best, if not the very best. Ennio Morricone's subtle and spooky Score is also one of my favorite parts about it. Everyone in the cast was in their prime and their performances really sell the terror and paranoia throughout the film.
An all-time classic.
I love the score. It perfectly captures the whole atmosphere of the film.
This is hands down my favorite Kurt Russell character and acting role of his.
@@lea-anne9133Absolutely. It really does.
@@Rykiz_VidzRight on. Top 3 for me, at least. Don't really have a number one because it's just too tough to call. MacReady, Snake Plissken, Jack Burton..
(Funny enough, ☝🏻.. those are all Carpenter characters😅)
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 that man knew his way around a western soundtrack I have his greatest hits on repeat all the time
If John Carpenter knows what's good for him he'll never tell us who the Thing is at the end of the movie. He knows full well that the fascination with that movie is that there is no clear answer. And it should stay that way.
I would like your comment if you considered rephrasing it, so it may not sound like a threat. Carpenter has in interviews expressed his opinion on this matter: he knows perfectly who he had in mind, as the remaining Thing, but he appears to have no intention of sharing it, and reducing that last tension from a perfect film's legacy.
He's said in different interviews that Childs was the thing, then has said Mac is the thing
@@jamescrawford1534 Yes he walked the comments back. And for good reasons. Even Kurt Russell said it was never supposed to have a definitive answer because THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT. You as the audience member are supposed to become as paranoid as the character itself. It's one of the best horror film movies ever.
Even the drink at the end isn't a tell. They're both totally fd (if human) once the fire burns out so it wouldn't matter what the rules were and a drink before you die... Totally normal.
@@gerryheddema2555 That wasn't a threat. How overly sensitive or paranoid must someone be to see a statement of a fact as a threat? He might have had someone in mind but he and Kurt Russell during filming agreed to keep it ambiguous. That way we feel exactly what MacReady feels. No matter what he had in mind he changed it in order to to have the intended effect. And that is also the only logical ending. Even if he told us tomorrow who he originally intended it's irrelevant. That was not how he and Kurt thought by the end of the movie. They knew what had to be done and that was to keep it vague.
A thing everyone seems to miss is that Palmer was always shown smoking weed. In every scene. Then he just stops. I believe the Thing doesn't like consuming poisons. So in that aspect, Since Childs willingly drank the alcohol, he was human. Since alcohol is poisonous to all cells, the Thing wouldn't attempt to kill itself.
You got a very good point there....I never noticed that about Palmar until I saw you comment...good catch
before childs takes a drink, kurt russell was burning the place down so is it not more likely that the bottle is full of gas and what we see is the thing imitating sharing a drank but doesnt smell or taste the gas
Weed isn't poison.
@@XvKJP2015 At the time of this movie it was.
He shared the joint with Childs but he then passes the test. Lots of misdirection from JC keeping every scene full of questions.
They share drinks at the end because they're going to die anyway. They're trapped at the south pole in winter with no radio and no shelter. They have maybe an hour to live, so they might as well get hammered.
Incorrect, one knew the other was the Thing and could survive freezing over.
@@JynxedKomaIncorrect, we dont know for sure
Exactly. Even if it’s not safe to share food or drink, MacReady at this point has already conceded the fact he’s got hours left to live. Childs looks like he’s about done too.
The drink being full of gasoline is utter madness, MacReady wouldn’t waste a good bottle for anyone or anyTHING, he also goes to take a sip before he even see’s Childs.
Not knowing if either are infected makes this one of the greatest endings of all time.
The whole point of the film is not being able to guess or know who is the Thing.
The fact it was trashed by critics when it was first released, found its first home with the cult fan base and rose to greatness as being appreciates ad one of the best films of all time, on par with Kubrick’s The Shining show just how great a movie it is. Hell, the fact we’re still talking about it and trying to dissect it over 40 years later says everything.
It shows everyone that the critics opinions can't always be trusted as they've often been wrong compared to the general audiences view.
Fun fact ….the unknown silhouette actor was actually Dick Warlock, a stunt coordinator (also a stunt double for Kurt Russell in many films) that was Michael Myers in Halloween II and an android in Halloween III.
It’s also funny cause they have characters named “Mac” and “Windows” lol
I don't buy the idea that those taken over by the Thing don't know it. Same goes for the idea that the Thing only assimilates someone because it's being attacked. Otherwise, the dog wouldn't have assimilated anyone at the beginning of the original movie. Also, the fact that the dog, being attacked by the Norwegian from the helicopter, didn't reveal its nature by defending itself, indicates that this is not the way it works. You even explained how the blood test scene showed that the guy who'd been assimilated had a smirk on his face, as if he knew he was caught out, while everyone else was just staring.
As far as Childs possibly being the Thing just because he drank from the bottle after Mac, the entire place was burning down, they both knew they were going to die in a few hours, so fear of assimilation wouldn't be an issue at that point.
The Coat Hanger thing is actually more of an Inconsistent moment as they forgot what the set up looked like during filming between shots
And the HD release of the film shows Childs is wearing his original coat but it's covered in Frost. As well as His breath
As the Bennings Thing even has Breath
I was gonna say if we’re going with that he stole a lighter coat to hide the fact that he was attacked. There are no lighter coats that are missing from the rearrangement of the coats so that might be a wash. I think what you’re saying is corrected. It’s not a hint.
8:14 Those are called 'snow goggles', early design before polarization of lenses became cheap and common. Fun fact, snow goggles imitate the irises of bovine creatures most on the lookout for predators while grazing.
Probably my all-time favourite sci-fi horror. Has everything you could ask for. Casting. Acting. The pinacle of practical effects (lets not mention the stop motion). Tension building atmosphere and score. Open ending.... Just perfection.
This Production Had The Blessings Of A Myrad Of Talent, Time & Work Put In. Rob Bottin Practically Lived At The Studio Creating & Perfecting. Stan Winston Helped As Well.
Its rewatchable rating is 10/10
They don't make movies like this, Predator, Alien, Aliens, The Terminator, hell like any 80s sci- fi today.
The scene from the 1980s version where they chase it out into the snow as it's still trying to replicate one of the crew and the terror I always get when it looks at them with cold black eyes and elongated fingers with razor sharp teeth letting out a blood chilling scream as they burn it.
Every time I show some young person this movie they have a very visceral reaction to the effects. Even the not so good 80s effects look still so plastic and palpable it evokes a reaction of disgust like no other decade. Some of the makeup in Hellraiser doesn't really look realistic but it looks disgusting. And it's exactly that reaction I never see them express with today's movie's CG effects. It's just something deeply different.
Gary wasn't at all " cowardly".
It only makes tactical sense to stay in cover/ concealment.
There are people that would jump out to give the enemy a " fair chance".
We call these people " idiots".
Also, were he to go to a door to go outside and face down the lunatic shooting all " high noon " style , he would have given the man more chances to shoot Gary's UNARMED coworkers.
And he's wrong about the thing keeping to itself unless attacked.
It attacks the dogs, unprovoked.
It attacks Bennings unprovoked.
It assimilates Norris, leading to his death.
It Attacks Fuchs, as far as we know, unprovoked.
iirc not being able to see Childs breathing in the final scene is also not intended, and it makes sense that even if he was infected, it would still release vapor on exhaling.
the eraser thing for Blaire is also a mistake, and was just a mannerism of the actor and not actually intended in the script
The Bennings Thing clearly has visible breath right before being burned. The breath test and the eye glint test that the fans like to use for this movie are both bunk
It's actually an issue with the fidelity of the recording and the darkness within the scene. If you watch the HD version you can see Childs breath which was in the original, you just can't see it.
Your breakdown of The Thing was the reason I finally sat down and watched it. It's easily one of the best horror movies ever made. The body horror is peak, and the story is tight. As always, great work, Paul. Cheers.
Thanks for the content Paul. Love all your videos on THE RUSSEL and The Thing is a personal Favourite.
Absolutely love the Prequel! Watch it more than I should! I remember loving it originally when all my friends didn't. Who now do! They were assimilated over time. Yeah I said it. Great Video!
Horror culture is a great channel! Props to you for giving him a shoutout, he deserves more viewers
Ah man the 1980s Thing is like one of my top 5 movies of all time.
Always enjoy these deep-dive breakdowns of classic movies. 👍🏻
Thank you Paul. 🙏🏻
If You Could Do The JC " Apocalypse Trilogy".... , Please Do Prince Of Darkness & The Mouth Of Madness.
Only film I literally fell off the couch from jumping in the blood scene.
Norris did not fake a heart attack. The thing copied Norris so well that it also copied his damaged heart.
I always presumed that he got the heart attack by getting turned by the thing, but you raise quite an interesting alternative/add-on there mate, good point!
@@helturflippad Well in a way he did, If Norris hadn't been turned, he would have still had the heart attack at the same time due to all the stress of crazy shit that had been happening. So in a way the Thing was responsible, but not due to the biological changes.
My take is that neither character is The Thing at the end.
The film uses strange behavior of human characters, to make you think they’re the alien, when in reality,
they were just scared.
The choice to have Childs survive with MacReady,
Being another attempt you make
you suspect one of them is the Thing.
Childs takes it personally when Macready begins taking extreme measures, calling him a murderer after Clark is confirmed to be human.
So when Childs asks
“Are *you* the only one who made it?”
It isn’t a hint he isn’t human.
Rather, how much less human MacReady is in the eyes of Childs.
We the viewers, have spent the most time with MaCready,
We’re partial to siding with him,
despite how many mistakes he’s made throughout the movie.
So when the character at odds with him, conveniently returns after being lost in a storm,
We’re just as suspicious as the character we’re seeing the movie through.
Now, these two are the ones
who survived, sharing a drink,
going back to their old dynamic,
Despite both having seen the worst
In eachother.
The tension going beyond whether one of them is an alien,
who can’t be taken back to society,
But whether or not the people they are, deserve to be in society.
My take is that they are both the thing but neither of them realize that the other one is also the thing. It's poetic that humanity infected the monster at the end, instilling the distrust that the humans have all been feeling since the beginning. Everything you mentioned about how the characters are acting still makes sense if they are the thing as it can perfectly imitate copied people completely so personality traits are (generally) not trustworthy.
Blair doesn’t touch it with the pencil. Don’t know why people keep saying he does.
11:19
Take a look again, He actually isn't Touching the Body he's simply POINTING
Everyone always brings up that being Blair’s method of infection but that’s just not true. He never touched the carcass with the pencil he only points with it.
Yeah, he was assimilated at some later point when he was locked up in the tool shed.
Studios: We're going to change everything about the movie that we greenlit for you to make
Also Studios: WhY wOnT PeOpLe gO tO tHe MoViEs?!?!
I’m obsessed with this series
I’ve seen basically ever video made on UA-cam about this movie.
Thank you for the 45 mins of this
I love you ❤
The 1982 movie is in my top 10. Thank you for the detailed inspection of The Thing and the people replaced by The Thing!! Thank you for your observations! I have another reason to go back and watch it again! The 1982 film is much loved in the comments also.
In regard to the prequel, I always wondered why they didn’t call it “The Thing: Awakening” or something like that. It would have made a lot more sense then giving it the same name as the original.
Maybe in the prequel the thing was still learning human behaviour that could’ve been why it was smarter in the sequel
7:59 How is hanging back in a concealed position and returning fire while an unknown man with a rifle is taking shoots in your direction cowardly?
Exactly, he found cover and didn't walk out in the open to let the crazy Norwegian guy shoot him.
That is a horrible mischaracterization of Garry. He breaks the window because he's not near a door and this gives him a clear line of sight to end a threat to the base, which he does with excellent speed and accuracy. He's actually a good leader, showing the wisdom to step down when his presence would only cause more harm than good.
Breaking a window in Antarctica is pretty daft, no??!
You could release a “The Thing” video every day for the rest of time and I would watch every second to completion. Happy Tuesday
You probably already know, but Rob Ager of Collative learning has a few vids breakingThe Thing down too
So the coats were just a continuity error. If Charles was the thing, why wait and have a chat with Mcready, he had a flamethrower, why not just incinerate him. Also if you take the 2nd film as cannon. Charles still has his earring in at the end.
@@hugheffo Childs
so, im pretty sure the liquid in the bottle at the end is rubbing alcohol, because the thing cant taste alcohol, so giving a man a drink of rubbing alcohol would naturally make him flinch, but it doesnt, hence he was taken over at that point
to further elaborate, if it mimics EVERYTHING in the human body, then its mimicing the fact thats freezing to death with mcready, so it also knew it was dying and wouldnt be aggressive for no reason
@@deaglesupinthis5968 Where, in the movie, did you learn it couldn't taste things? Rubbing alcohol is a new twist. Usually people talk about gasoline. So credit it to you there. Still. It ain't on the screen
@@deaglesupinthis5968 As for it pretending to surrender to freezing to death...The thing has survived for thousands of years frozen. The characters posit that it wants to go back to being frozen. So it doesn't have to pretend anything. If Childs or MacReady were the thing, you'd think they'd want to take over the other to have a larger possibility of being taken somewhere to thaw out and get all Thing-y with folks.
I think Childs is human because he has an earring on. The thing can't imitate piercings and fillings, right? And I think the smirk at the end w/the drink is MacReady (and Childs) realizing that they're dead anyway so sharing the drink didn't matter anymore.😬
Maybe watch the movie one more time. Nobody who has been infected by the thing shivers in the cold. Take a closer look.
I am old enough to remember when this came out and watched it way back when. People love it today, but imagine how much better it would be watching it when it was before all the modern technology movies use today, because it is hard to compare. Scared the absolute poo outta me in several scenes. I loved the 80's (graduated high school 88). Love the work you do... See ya punk.
If is not spelled out for you, John Carpenter himself posted a tweet answering the question and confirmed that one of the two was indeed The Thing.
Oh jeez I wonder which one 😅
@@Rykiz_Vidz I feel like if it was one of them, it had to Childs
@@greenmrkitty1 Hmm..and how many others are there again? 😂
@yobrothermouzone he's been teasing things for years. The point was paranoia. Hes also said you're not supposed to know
@@guyjpersonthis I believe is the whole point of the movie.
It puts you in the same position as the characters. You never really know exactly what’s going on but you’re constantly guessing who.
Carpenter deliberately takes out just enough information to keep us guessing. Definitively telling us everything defeats that purpose (although I do love all the theories).
So ready for this one! The thing is one of my favourite movies of all time! Nice one!
The bottle being full of fuel is not plausible as the thing copies all memories, even the knowledge that fuel is not drinkable.
Do we ever see Childs drink alcohol before the end? If he has never had alcohol would the thing know the taste? I don't remember. I'll have to watch the film again
@@jeffrey7282000 It seems unlikely that he'd never have had alcohol in his life, although it's very plausible he didn't drink at all once he was at the base since it was his place of work and he could have felt it was unprofessional to drink on the job.
4:44 i recall hearing the "light in the eyes" detail being specified to apply solely to the blood test scene. So, it may not apply outside of that context
took me a long time to finally watch this movie (no particular reason) but man, quickly became one of my favorites.
41:38 Childs has an earing
I never thought Windows was called that because of his glasses. But because he was their comms guy
It’s funny cause they have characters named “Mac” and “Windows” lol
One of the best films I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen it many times
"The Things" is an excellent short story from the creatures perspective.
The dog had a gleam in it's eyes too.😮
The guy who played the shadow is Dick Warlock (chief robot from Halloween 3). He appears 3 times in the Thing. The shadow, “Blair” running from the destroyed helicopter (Wilford did not travel to the filming location, almost making a fourth wall break with “where’s Blair?”) and as a Norwegian scientist in the black and white photo.
I just did a rewatch last weekend, awesome!😊
I love this movie. It's so rare to have a movie play mind games long after seeing it
In regards to Childs, the coats being in different locations in-between these shots was only a mistake in set dressing department. Carpenter has stated this in interviews. People also grasp at the notion that you can see MacReady's breath, but not Childs, proving that Childs is the thing. The problem is, you can see Childs breath, it's just not as obvious as MacReady's because they shot the dialogue between the two characters separately and edited the two together. It was simply because the temperature was lower when they filmed Kurt Russel's part. Carpenter also said this in an interview. I've always strongly believed that the reason Mac was smirking is because he knows that they are both likely to die at this point, regardless, so in the end, it doesn't matter if they trust each other or not. It's just dark humor.
As for the prequel, the alien ship looked nothing like the one in the Carpenter film. Neither did Lars or the dog. It's like they didn't even try in those departments. The two people merging to create the split face thing is all wrong. Rob Bottin said that the creature he created for the Carpenter film was one person's face stretching apart. The less I say about the prequel the better.
It doesn’t even make sense that you wouldn’t see breath from the Thing. It’s a near perfect copy with working organs. And it’s talking, aka exhaling. Of course it would be breathing.
@@Gunnar001 Exactly. It's warm and full of moisture like a normal living human or animal so of course it would show visible breath and even water vapour rising off its body in a cold environment.
I remember in 1998 when I was in high school being told by my science teacher the science of The Thing is more plausible than ET, Aliens, Predator and that scared me
Man, I don't know....
Id say Gigers, Alien is based in most reality.
I mean in the sense that apart from acid blood, the aliens really act, behave and live like giant insects.
Where as "the thing", imo is more akin to a giant virus, the way it replicates down to a cellular level in order to disguise and facilitate spreading of itself......
@@SpaceHCowboy the science of a virus coming from space infecting people can happen, Gigers xenomorph creation was dark fantasy
@@wajidhussain5305Am I missing the fact that the xenomorphs were inspired by insects, which exist????
I'm aware of loads of insects and how many of them objectively do and behave like said xenos.
Yet, objectively there's never been a invasive organisim that descended from space, ever.
So, you have your subjective opinion.
Obviously both franchises are science fiction.
Aliens, is not "dark fantasy"....
Twilight is dark fantasy.
I could say the Thing is a body/shock horror movie, but it's not.
Aliens is Science fiction horror, in exactly the same way the Thing, is science fiction horror.
Objectively speaking....
What behaves like a xeno, an insect.
What behaves like the Thing, a mutagenic virus.
That's the stone cold facts....
My teacher once told the class when you sneeze you go unconscious...
😂
That "hit the like button" at 21:23 was so smooth!
Nicely done!
One thing that is OVER emphasized in every review I see is the "infection theory". Here is why I don't believe it counts. Fuchs mentions that everyone should eat out of cans out of caution, but the Thing never infected anyone in the film this way. It always used contact while isolated. The comic series that followed used this technique. Many theorists go way off the rails on speculation here that is just not shown in the film. Just watched this two days ago on a big screen, and to me, it does not appear that Blair actually touched the thing corpse with his pencil, just got close (the shadow under the eraser never disappears. It also does appear that he doesn't actually touchs the eraser to his lip, but just below. As for the bottle infection theories, I'm not sure that tainted saliva would survive in Vodka or Burbon given the alcohol content, but who really knows. Perhaps our white cells can kill a couple of intruding cells, unless overwhelmed through massive, forced induction. Since Carpenter and Russell didn't have the ending figured out until the end of filming, there is not deliberate trail of crumbs that we can rely on. So, we are in effect trying to navigate through a whiteout! Just my observations.
The infection theory doesn't work for me because if the thing could spread that easily then it could have blasted particles in to the air at any time for an instant total victory. For example, when everyone was all together in a small hallway. One of the few things the movie shows as an absolute fact is that it can spray fluids across an entire room at will, because that's what happens with Norris.
Paul you lovely SOB. Wonderful breakdown
I liked that the thing was just killing i always thought it realized going all out didn't work so when it got to outpost 31 it decided to be more stealthy.
Good thinking
Exactly.
That’s why the final form it takes is the dog.
It unsuccessfully fit in with people,
So it takes the form of a creature where it can better learn, without being detected.
Really interesting take
Yup, as a dog, it doesnt have to communicateor answer questions. There are no expectations of it. Itdoesnt have to worry abput clothes, and it is trusted completely.
If Childs was a thing he would have to hurry up and infect Mac before they froze to death
Thank you Heavy Spoilers. This film is brilliant. Perfect in every way.
I think this film kickstarted my love of thriller/horror/sci fi.
Thanks again dude
One of the best movies ever made no doubt
I didn't realize it was a remake until a few days ago and it's pretty close to the original outside of the creature itself. The original had more cast members and even a couple women in it. It was pretty much Alien before the movie Alien because the doctor was trying to save it to study it.
@moorebounce its not so much a remake as both springing from the same source material
@@guyjpersonoriginal novella had an absolute tonne of characters so that I lost track of who was who.
Blair, MacReady and (I think) Copper were all in it but I couldn’t follow anyone else.
It's a prequel not remake
I remember watching it for the first time and just thinking that they both survived at the end and were doomed to a slow death when the fire burnt itself out.
Bouta be another banger for sure!
Love the thing!! Instant thumbs up!!
5:15 if you consider the prequel as canon, Childs was not the thing, he is wearing his earing and according to the prequel the thing can't replicate metal... Right?... Right!? 😵💫😆
I listened to Rob Ager 1 hour analysis. He mentioned the backpack McReady had at the end. The back pack was the torch gun. In other words McReady was waiting for Charles to torch him. Who destroyed the blood? It was obviously the guy who was making the new spaceship at the end.
I've watched this literally 100's of times and not once did I clock the Doctors nasal piercing 😮
The poster in the backround at 14:00 isn't an ID card, it's a condom. That was an sti awareness poster saying that the ones with STIs aren't labelled.
A bunch of men with tainted blood and uncertainty in a film in the 80s?
Yeah, it's referencing the panic around AIDS which has become prominent the year before this came out, and would have been all over the news when carpenter was refining script and waiting to begin shooting.
I love this channel, could binge watch these videos forever.
Never stop what you do, mate.
👌🏼
Thanks so much, really appreciate that comment, hope you have a great week
Shout out man your the reason I watched this for the film for 1st time a year ago. Your OG videos are why I subscribed and have been watching since
This movie is fucking amazing
Wow. This is my favorite movie I’ve watched it at least 50 times and you showed me so many things I misssed. Idk how I never noticed docs nose ring
I was Working in a foreign country when this movie came out, I didn’t even hear about it. I saw it on a streaming platform and thought it was a remake. I was disappointed in the first 20 minutes because it was so different, but then realized it was a prequel and fell in love. Great movie.
Child’s had an earring in the ending, I figured mcgready laughed cause he infected child after passing him the liquor , then the song plays too, he would be fine with freezing cause the thing can reanimate from a frozen state
Childs also still has a gold tooth. MacReady being a Thing doesn't add up either though. They're both two doomed humans accepting their fate.
Great breakdown Paul. The Thing is one of my top 10 movies. I liked Campbell story that served as the source, but also see a lot of similarities to Lovecrafts mountain of madness (Please SOMEONE give Del Toro the budget to do Mountains.)
The best thing about the OG Thing is that we are still talking and arguing today about it. Just. Damn fine movie.
And Paul your section around slasher films the group is safest together where in Thing, that’s where they were most vulnerable was fantastic
The Thing - one of the best movies ever. Thanks!
It's Paul! Of the Heavy Spoilers Show!
I've never been a fan of horror movies. The only exceptions I've ever made to this are The Thing, The Fly and Invasion of the Body Snatchers, all of which being the 1980-ish versions of them. With that, The Thing tops the list.
Such a great breakdown, watched it twice in a row. Wrote off the prequel as not worth it, but will definitely check it now! Great work
One of all time favorite movies
That shadow is clearly noris 😂
That's what I thought, yet there are those that say it's Palmer
Yep. If Carpenter meant for it to be an unknown actor, he did a pretty bad job. It looks just like Norris.
The shadow was Dick Warlock. Looks like Norris though.
Child's was super paranoid of everything... until the end scene...
Love this breakdown. There’s another movie by John Carpenter that I absolutely loved, and I’m convinced only my older brother and I saw it and loved it. Prince of Darkness! Sure it has flaws but what a fun movie to discuss. My brother and I spent hours one day cooking up with a sequel explaining the communications from the future. So fun.
11:10 ish Blair got infected by the pencil, he realized his mistake when he saw the simulation, and ransacked the radio room before the infection had a chance to spread. Best horror movie ever, 1000+ times i've watched and analyzed .....
Childs is the thing. No question.
I just decided to watch this last night, what a weird coincidence you post this.
Subconsciously it begins and ends with Mac feeding his enemy a drink
it's just a special, spectacular masterpiece. even when you've seen it 20 times and u know where the thing is hiding it's still engaging and enjoyable to watch. I would love a really well made remake of it.. something that went on to explore the creature itself in more depth and show off it's different forms or maybe what happens when it comes into contact with civilisation, and everyone is paranoid of everyone.
As we all know...R.J. MacReady survied. 10 years later...He was known as 'Capt. Ron.'...He left that Artic desert to pursue the Oceans.
One of my fave movies ever
For many years I took the approach that many take now, that there is one definitive order of events and assimilations. Try watching it again turning everything you believe upside down. Make Norris or Blair the shadow on the wall, watch Blair’s destruction of comms equipment as a human if you think he was a thing by that point or vice versa, make Childs a human at the end. There is incredible rewatch value if you open your mind to different interpretations, this film is really unique in that way.
The coats are a continuity error. There's even a coat that wasn't in the original shot. The Alien went to get one? For who? The audience is the only "eye" to notice the coats. MacReady smirks because he realizes Childs ALSO thinks they've had it. It's the first time they've been congenial with each other. Childs' coat is blue with frost on it. The breath thing goes nowhere. You CAN see Childs' breath, it's just not lit. Also, the Alien thing with the weird hand earlier in the movie is blowing out TONS of breath. AND, if you're gonna accept the "no metal" thing from the prequel, you can see Childs' earring in the final scene. All of these "clues" aren't clues.
Guessing its more of that 'say something wrong on purpose to incease engagement' crap.
lol nerrrrrrrddddddd
Do you count the corn in your poop?
@IntricationZ this show is literally about minutiae. TikTok is another platform, fella
@@robertkeane9393 of course. Don't you?
The og is a great film as also. This version did it justice for the special effects. It still stands up in 2024.
One of my all time favorite horror movies. I've been watching it for damn near 40 years and it still gives me the creeps.
I hope im ready for this vid
Well done 👍💜👍
Carpenter’s The Thing is my favorite horror movie. Saw it in the theater and hid my eyes for most of the film. My sister tried to watch it at home, but when the scene with the dogs being assimilated came on, she said she backed up to the TV and turned it off. To my knowledge, she has never tried to watch it again!!!
Hey Paul, just a quick note for an idea... Would you ever consider doing a video of how you go through the process of making one of your video's? Giving a little love for and showing your crew that helps you put these together, not giving a step by step of course but just a bit of "behind the scenes of a behind the scenes video"? Much love.... Hope you and yours are well and happy, mate. See ya punk.
Was thinking of doing a big live stream with the team it’s just choosing a time when there’s nothing else out and all our schedules are free
Child's has an ear ring at the end, so with the lore in the 'prequel' it would mean he couldn't be the thing. One of the best movies of all time!
Did you actually watch the prequel? Because in the prequel, the thing put the earing back in his ear, which Mary Elizabeth winsteads character notices he put it in the wrong ear, thus he was a thing, so, your wrong, the things can't REPLICaTE metal, but they can and have put back possessions like earnings in there ears.😂
One of my favorite movies, love the break down!
Watching the original for the first time now, i can say I would have had such a massive crush on Kurt Russell in the 80s. 😂 Loved the movie. The dog, Jed, was an insanely good actor as well. He creeped me out even before he turned.
You clearly haven't listened to the DVD commentary with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell.
"was the coat left or right? Who cares, put it where ever you wanna, nobody cares." - someone 40 years later " they wanted to tell us something with the coats"
I like the theory that the bottle child's drinks out of is actually gasoline. Being the thing he doesn't know any better. Yet Mcredy knows, hence the smirk.