**NOTES & CORRECTIONS** - I'm aware that there's a gender change for Perinheri in Chinese, but from what I can tell it is ONLY in the traditional Chinese, not simplified or any other language. Roozevelt and I asked some native speakers on discord what they thought about it, and they didn't find it noteworthy. There's also a similar swapped gender change towards the King's advisor, and the gender matches the traveler in the case of both the advisor AND Perinheri... since that is the case, and we know Perinheri wasn't a descender but the traveler is, I'm inclined to disregard this as it appears to be a quirk of address unique to traditional Chinese. My mind is obviously STC with new information, but this is why I didn't include it in the video. - I know it's ACK-eron not ASH-eron... I've just been pronouncing the soft CH since I was a kid and old habits die hard, oops. - For that last mini-theory, I also forgot it was top THREE harbingers, not top FOUR which actually makes Arlecchino's situation kinda funny. I dunno if it changes my 4+7 = 11 thought experiment much beyond labeling, but we'll see!
The harbinger math is probably right since I don't think there's any mention of Arlacheno ever getting into a fight unlike the others, Capitano is Capitano so he checks out, Columbina is a supposed Seelie who retains her form and knowing what happened to the rest of her race, she checks out and Dottore as far as we know killed Erza without much trouble so that checks him out. Arlacheno is the only one with no records and probably for good reason since she's more of an Assassin so no witnesses. So your accidental count of 4 might actually be on point. The harbinger math is good and all with just one problem We're still missing a Harbinger, 3 if you count Signiora and Scarmouche
there is a theory that all vision holders have something in common depending on the element they have, like anemo characters all are sad and edgy, hydro characters are sus or have a secret, dendro characters have something to do with wisdon, study, etc. The one for pyro was something about they have some kind of fatherly or motherly figure that they are taking over of (like their business or jobs) but tbh "death" could also be one.
Deshret of Genshin's Otto Apocalypse at this point, since everything circles back to this man. And we don't even know his face!! But I'm always down for more Deshret crumbs lol
Fun fact in Nahuatl, the language that was spoken by the Aztecs, moths are called Mictlan papalotl, which means butterflies of the realm of the dead. Natlan, the nation of Rebirth, is inspired on pre-columbine cultures which includes the Aztecs, sooo… connection. We’ll prolly see many more butterfly/moth references in Natlan
Perinheri = Perihelion maybe? The Chimney is the Night Sky, with the stars the embers and ashen stardust scattered throughout it. At the ascent of the night sky sits the balemoon, a blood moon, strawberry moon or an eclipse. Ascension occurs when a thing upon/beneath the land crosses the horizon (the veil), ascending into the domain of the heavens (the night sky), before it reaches a zenith and begins to descend once more back to the Earth, crossing back over the veil, achieving a "rebirth". Perihelion is the orbit of a celestial body, specially at the point when it reaches closest to the Sun (which sometimes "eclipses" it from the view on Earth).
in fact, there's even some gendered themes-- often, Solar is associated with masculinity (golden emperors, et. al.) while Lunar is associated with femininity; Queerness is associated with the liminality of change, which is closely tied to the cycles, the "light guiding the moon (lunisolar affinity with moonlight), and the liminality of an eclipse combining masculine with feminine forms. One famous example of this is from Elden Ring: Radagon = Marika. In Alchemy, this is associated with the non-binary Rebis, but queer gender expression is closely related to a majority of liminal deities, and many deities associated with magic.
My gut tells me that another link between Liyue and Perinheri and the *Legend of Shattered Harlberd* is the mysterious *Nine Pillars of Peace* ruin in Cuijue slope you open with the nine stones of remembrance that you collect from the Geo statues.
Native Chinese speaker here, the more common meaning of Wangsheng (which is a Buddhist term) people accept nowadays is “pass away to Amitabha’s realm” or simply “pass away”. It is mostly used as a euphemism for “die”, because many Buddhist terminologies are nowadays blending with normal words without religious vibe in modern Chinese 😂
I love the minor connection between Bloodborne/Lady Maria and Arlecchino. Lady Maria did horrible things until she couldn't stomache her dual sword. Afterwards she took up care of people who were experimented upon to try and make Celestial emissaries. Being their only comfort in their agony. She also uses blood and fire in her boss fight. Partly because of her blood relation with Annalise, Queen of the vilebloods. There is also an orphanage in Bloodborne's upper Cathedral ward in the city of Yharnam. Which houses children of Great Ones(the Eldritch gods in the setting) As seen when another character gives birth to one when the Blood moon descends upon the city. Though it doesn't relate to Lady Maria. There's much more to uncover with Lady Maria, but I'd recommend playing the game and experiencing it yourself.
The idea of creating Descenders through alchemy could tie into the Primordial Human project (and would explain some similarities between Albedo and the Traveler). And while the name would suggest some sort of original prior form of humans rather than aliens, considering before sun and moon, the original prior form of humans *was* aliens/descenders. Traversing the fires of two worlds reminds me of the description of the PS5 exclusive wings: "But when you face a force enough to destroy one, or even two worlds," You do not truly remember who it was who had treated the two of you ever so gently. You wish you could remember... "When you face a boundless darkness, or an all-consuming radiance..." But that was one world ago. Its possible these are both referencing a specific set of two worlds, like it feels like a particular recurring phrasing (my moneys on teyvat and khaenriah, hinging on them being seperate but connected worlds rather than both part of one world) Interestingly the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles *also* has the blackened arms (I think it could be a style callback to kiana whose arms are blackened in a similar way after a near death experience) but considering the potential connection between arle and the moon sisters, Susty could totally be an undead (or half dead?) moon sister. Also *Skirks* arms are dark blue at the ends too and she says she doesnt want to return to the surface because "To live is in itself a blessing. But once a person dies, the bonds he once had with this world shall all turn to curses." Also now I need to go reread everything written by Mr Nine because you know what else is weird about the parallels? Acherons an emanator of the aeon known as "IX". they might both just be referencing The Hermit card but. A reread is in order.
@26:20 i was so sure this was going to be a video with no mention of Deshret that i had a comment typed out ready to point out how wild that is and there he is lol
Something fun about the pyro element: The pyro vision holders just so happen to inherit legacies. Yoimiya, Xiangling, Amber, Diluc, Chevreuse, Dehya, Bennett, Hu Tao and Arlecchino are taking over after their relatives. Gaming, Thoma and Yanfei stepped up to take on important cultural roles. Lyney was the apprentice of a legendary magician. Klee is just like her mother, a possible descender. And then Xinyan. Does rock and roll count as a legacy? Pyro can be seen as the element that had the torch passed on to them.
Considering Ei is my favourite character I've always hoped they would go more into her lore and do more with a Mei expy. This only raises my suspicions that Hoyo has more hidden about her that will only come to light later on
Interesting note about the connection between the butterfly symbols and pyro, plus the Raiden Shogun: Yoimiya also has butterflies featured in her design (ponytail shape, necklace, tattoos, etc) and her signature bow Thundering Pulse was originally crafted by the Shogun as a gift to the Tengu Reizenbou
Yoimiya's tattoo is of a goldfish surrounded by fireworks not a butterfly. Edit: after taking a closer look at her tattoo I noticed that the purple lines beside the golfish tattoo also makes it look like half a butterfly wing. And the fireworks around the goldfish at the same time also look like flowers.
She does have a butterfly on her necklace. And a type of goldfish in Japanese is often called butterfly koi or even dragon koi due to their resemblance.
If fire means rebirth, is that the reason why dottore is burning the irminsul on the sumeru PV? He is burning away the old world, as pierro says, so a new one can be reborn. I mention this bc a few days ago the writers for genshin did an interview/lecture on a university and they mentioned that that scene with dottore is part of a future plot.
4:45 considering Albedo mentions in the second dragonspine event that cooking isn’t that hard because its similar to alchemy must have been a galaxy sized brain foreshadowing.
People saying that Ei "has no lore left" and that "we know everything about her" just have no clue about anything at this point lmao, the fact that there is a Raiden expy and a Kiana expy in this game and they haven't interacted yet(be it as friend of foe) just tells you that Ei is most likely the most important Archon for future reference that we have as of now. Just think about it, we have no clue what's up with the Electro Sovereign at all, not a single mention of a dragon in Inazuma, we don't even know what Ei and Makoto are, or what Makoto knew or how exactly she died, you can bet your ass that Hoyo isn't going to let their Mei expy in the dust.
I'm sorry, but genshin players assuming Ei has no more lore are not really dumb, they just don't play honkai. Ei's lore importance has been so much more subtle than all the other archon, you can't fault genshin players for not reading into cryptic item and ability names, or studying the story of a completely different game. People aren't that sweaty.
Wait wait wait that's not what Acheron's trailer was about. First off iirc it was then implied that beings from takemagahara were themselves refugees. Secound Izumo didn't forge the 12 sentinels out of nothing they first broke 70k+ blades and reforged them into the 12 sentinels. This is important as as with the last blade it's implied these blades are lives too. 70k+ lost their lives fighting the invading takamagahara and from the remains of powerful takamagahara (herrscher equivalents) they forged the 12 sentinels (herrscher core equivalents) to fight back. At last the 12 sentinels alone were not enough so they were yet again broken and reforged into the last 2 origin and end corresponding to mei and kevin in hi3. Mei(Acheron) won and killed kevin but in doing so sacrificed everything. She was the last living thing on izumo and she realized the bright future they were all fighting for in the first place never existed as takamagahara and izumo weren't orbiting a sun but a black hole meaning they were all boned from the start. So she strode into nihility's shadow and reforged her broken life into nothingness the last blade (also became a self annihilator and by clinging on to what little self she had and refusing to fade away but also remaining aware of how pointless her existence is she also became the nihility emanator). In comparison in hi3 kiana existed giving hope to everyone and so the world was not as hurt, in the end kiana embraced the end and became the herrscher of finality (probably an emanator). Now I'm no expert in both stories so this'd be a very barebones explanation.
My Name for Now, theorized that Arlechinno could possibly be a red dwarf star, which is the most common star in the sky. We know that Khanriah was trying to summon a descender, a golden star. It would make sense that when summoning golden stars. He also connected Genshin to an anime called the Angel and the Egg, and how it also had a giant moon with an eye. Anyhow you should check out some of his theories. Also it’s super annoying that you have keep clarifying that games are not connected because the Genshin community melts down about it. All games takes place in the Hoyoverse which is on the Imaginary Tree, among the Sea of Quanta. I wish the fandom would let you cook without crying about it.
ppl are so annoyed that these games are connected they even pulled out a pic showing how games with honkai in their names are not connected by a line with genshin though that pic was about IP and stock market but who cares right
I can't wait for the new video about Arlecchino because of the story quest. I am pretty sure there was a significance in it because the traveler even said it out loud that what he/she sees is a crimson moon. Maybe the same that we saw when the cataclysm happened.
The 11 harbinger thing: I always kinda thought it was paralleling the 13 Flamechasers in HI3 with Piero being Kevin and the Tsaritsa being Elysia. Especially after being Fu Hua's new battlesuit outfit coming next patch being compared to Arlechino. I was drawing parallels between Mobius and Dotorre and kalpas and childe. Its a loose theory but I think Hoyo does like to repeat themes in their games even if they aren't directly connected. As an artist I tend to revisit the same themes over and over again in my work so it makes sense to me.
Zhongli-Azure Empyrea/Phoenix (wise yet brutal leader), Ganyu-Valkyrie Accipiter/Hawk of the Fog (isolated person having difficulty adjusting with the times, detective), Xiao-Shadow Knight (survivor's guilt, defender), and the flat chestedness of all Liyue Pyro girls (element) all go back to Fu Hua. Mobius (my beloved) pretty much has her design fingerprints all over Surcose, Gold (mixed with Eden), Baizhu, and Dottore (in my headcanon, the aforementioned affair with Kalpas as Elysia joked).
FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE RED MOON AND RAIDEN EXPYS. This particular topic has been driving me crazy for ages especially since Honkai World Diva exists. Genshin Expys are some of the most frustrating things to understand lore-wise and it's hard to explain to people why it matters but also kind of doesn't. It's all very metiphorical and it makes my brain hurt.
Acheron and welt's conversation finally touched on it in the recent trailblaze mission. It's as we suspected, the imaginary tree simply has alternate versions of the same people that walk on similar yet distinct paths. Welt was not the first look-alike acheron met and obviously acheron was not the first look-alike welt met either. But it's still handled strangely cuz there have been many times in HI3 where look-alikes do not get acknowledged at all. Mei literally met somebody that has the same name, appearance and voice as her yet nobody, not even Kiana acknowledged it. Same could be said with Prometheus, nobody said anything about the fact that she looks and sounds exactly like bronya. Maybe people only become aware of this phenomena when the look-alikes are from different worlds? Cuz the Dr MEI and Prometheus are still from the same planet, just from a different cycle of the finality samsara.
@@zenzonerzz4789 Honkai Star Rail Welt isn't a look alike, he is the same Welt from HI3, and he travelled to the Star Rail Universe. Read his Light Cone in the game, and his splash art has HI3 characters. Also, here's a quote from the Welt page on the Star Rail Wiki "Trivia: Welt in Honkai: Star Rail is the same iteration of him as seen in Honkai Impact 3rd. His story takes place after the events of the "Alien Space" manga and A Post-Honkai Odyssey. He left Earth after an alien invasion, hoping to protect other worlds from similar predicaments. While Honkai: Star Rail has not directly addressed his past, there are numerous allusions to Honkai Impact 3rd's storyline."
@@zenzonerzz4789 the Mei and Dr MEI situation is confusing coz in the CN audio their names are different but also not. Mei: Yayi and Dr MEI: Mei... the characters for her (Raiden Mei) name are written the same in JP and CN but pronounced differently, they do this with Inazuma characters in Genshin too. But I noticed that Dr MEI is referred to as "Mei" even in CN. And since Raiden Mei is Japanese in canon well, yeah it makes it even more confusing that they never bring it up. Especially since Kevin is basically genderbent Kiana (literally in GGZ) and Kevin and Dr MEI are well... yeah.
@@untamedrose30 I know, I'm very well versed in honkai lore as a longtime fan. I'm saying that from acheron's perspective, welt isn't the first "welt" she met. She had her own version of welt as well, that would make him a look-alike to her.
now that we have more information from the livestream they have similar burst lines in japanese "lightning/the moon shines eternal" 🙀 and her weekly boss form wings look similar to the statue in inazuma 🙀 u cooked with this one omg
speaking of pyro and resurrection, I find the story of how benny boy got his vision very weird. It almost sounds like he dies- he was wounded, lost a lot of blood and lost onsciousness. He later wakes up to find out wounds have been cauterized by some flame, and for some reason the blood he had already lost doesn't seem to cause any issues. And for some reason he gets a vision when he wakes up (I don't really think the vision was the thing that healed him, as far as I know a vision itself doesnt have any healing properties, maybe the vision wielders do possess such abilities after recreciving a vision, but not the vision itself). I know many people have connected bennet to the lavawalker and possibly the pheonix before- which doesn't seem unreasonable at all. But if it is true that he is the pheonix/lavawalker reincarnated, what I find interesting is that him dying and being reborn makes him worthy of a vision.
I feel like this might be some of hoyoverses fate/stay night influences popping up. In my head visions are somewhat comparable to magical crests. In f/sn magical crests can't heal a mage that posesses one, but the crest is capable of sustaining their life. Maybe visions have a similar passive supporting abilities?
@@sfjuhispst8144As for me, Visions are more like magical girls in madoka magica (hoyoverse are fans of this franchise, they even made a crossover between gzz and Madoka once). Vision-users unknowingly sign a contract that forever chains their soul to the world, they cannot leave their Vision for a long time and one day they have to pay some unknown very high price for their Vision.
Talking about herrscher and rebirth there's another parallel I thought about. In HI3 Seele became the herrscher of rebirth and also uses scythe. I think she was also in the sea of quanta at one point (I'm not on point with HI3 lore) and when you mentioned forbidden knowledge it made me think of the abyss which I think is quite similar. On top of that there's Seele quantum type in HSR and she glitches from reality similar to Arlecchino in some of her animations. And there's also a reccuring theme of orphans surrounding those character. Not sure there's a lot to take from that though, just a parallel I thought about while watching the video
Okay, I was NOT expecting the Raiden connection with the crimson moon, but with things called baleful vajra, balethunder in Musoujin gorge, baleful shadowlord, my senses should've been tingling the moment hoyo dropped Arlecchino's drip marketing. It really does implicate the Raiden twins into the Honkai-esque lore of genshin. Maybe the reason emphasis was put on Raiden's sword wasn't just because uwu lord of weeb land has magical super sword, but that sword is also some kind of divine key from the crimson moon? This puts so much sus in my mind to other stuff that other archons have, specifically the holy lyre der himmel, since Venti also has a herrscher equivalent in HI3, and is just sus in general (Would a divine key have healing/purifying properties though? I would probably know if I finished HI3, but I didn't). Also, wtf was Guizhong's box to Zhongli? I hope Ei will have an actually important part to play in a later time. After all, Mei was willing to be a *sinner* to save Kiana. Having the Mei and Kiana expy not interact at all would be foul.
Ever since I saw a Genshin UA-camr talk about how The Angel's Egg anime film relates to Genshin, I wonder what you would think of it because ever since I saw that, I can't stop thinking about it! Especially as it relates to Perinheri and this new lore we have.
About Ei, I remember telling this to friends a long time ago shortly after her second quest- if the Raiden twins have a direct connection to the Unknown god (allegedly Kiana) it's impossible to know because Makoto is fricking dead. Unless Genshin pulls out one of those characters that knew of the Raiden twins and maybe even knew Makoto personally (and wasn't a baby at the time like Miko).
I personally think the Kiana is Istaroth not Susty. Since even in HI3, HoV is not technically Kiana. And since Istaroth helped Makoto I believe that that's the Mei and Kiana duo in GI
And Raiden connections to the moon doesnt stop there. Her charged attack is a crescent moon and the omnipresent god statue and shes also likely à reference to Guanyin
2.1 HSR spoilers real quick: with Boothill's introduction it's very clear he's Arlecchino's envoy (I mean just look at him.)-- what i now find interesting is that we now know he is hunting down Acheron. Raiden's counterpart. it also seems he's also gone through a theme of death and rebirth as he has a cybernetic body. the themes~~
Arlecchino is heavily based on raven from Honkai impact 3rd, who Natasha is based on, so It would be really weird to have an expy of an expy of a character we already have an expy for. Plus, Boothill has literally nothing in common with arlecchino except the hair, which is also just a normal anime thing. I've thought of a character with mishmashed black and white hair, and he was in my head before Arlecchino was revealed.
Having Singnora amd Wanderer featuring in this with rebirth themes... And with Childe having been changed by the abyss... Have all the Harbingers been through a process akin to death? Dottore has clones that have died, too. How curious.
I'm just going off my vague memory of Arlecchino's quest, but i seem to recall not just a blood moon showing up in the fight, but also a reference to 'two worlds'. I think your connection of Arle to the perinheri book is spot on, at that point.
Ok this doesn't have much to do with the theory but one thing to point out. While acheron is mentioned in dante's inferno, it is not originally from anything catholic or demonic(especially seeing as how the divine comedy is not even canon). Acheron is one of the 5 rivers that lead to the underworld and it is also the largest river. It's the first river that leads to underworld and it is where the dead wake up and where charon leads them to the gates of the underworld by ferry(provided they have the payment, if they don't, they have to walk the banks of acheron and styx for a hundred years). The underworld is often mistaken as hell cuz our world today and our views on the afterlife are dominated by abrahamic beliefs but this is not the case. The underworld and hades are simply the after life and the god of the dead repsectively, they are not hell and satan. The underworld is also where the greek limbo and heaven resides.
Ever since reading the book and watching roo’s video, I’ve been waiting for you to drop this video, and needless to say, this is gonna be a banger. I just know it. :DD
DESHRET STOP APPEARING ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE (he's salty he only got like 30 seconds of screentime, so he makes up for it by being in almost every part of the lore)
You know... The fact that it took me till this video for me to realize that variants of Kiana, Mei, and Bronya being the Moon Sisters is a possibility makes me feel a little silly, considering how obvious the theory is now. lol It's also a theory that perhaps has the most evidence. And by evidence, I mean one, not very strong evidence with the statue of one of the Moon Sisters being in Inazuma, where a variant of Mei rules the nation. lol But this video was nice. Though it probably would have been better to call this a Periheri, Arlecchino, and Raiden Ei theory video consider how often Ei came up. aha I do at least agree with the fact that with this book series releasing right before Arlecchino's release, that this book may foreshadow something in the next patch, and like you, I think it relates to how the House of the Hearth was formed and how exactly Arlecchino became the current Knave.
Great Video, Loved the Comparison of themes and ideas from HSR, looking forward to any more thematic connections in the future, possible between boothill and arlechino coz they look so suspiciously similar
24:50 the way I choked when I heard that 😂😂😂 jokes aside, I didn't even notice the butterfly details in ei's clothing (aside from her hairpin, which I just took in as an extra aesthetic piece)
Something that I find interesting, as it correlates specifically to my knowledge as someone who practices a modern day version of aztec religion and has heard the stories many times, is that we have a story about rebirth which also has to do with fire. In short, in order to create a new sun(the most recent one, in fact), a god needed to jump into a pit of fire to be reborn as the Sun. Lifeforms already existed, but it needed the Sun to spur it into living, so you could say that a god’s sacrifice was needed to begin a new world, or world cycle. Also, the god who became the Sun, Nanahuatzin, was the humble god(dess) of blisters. Nanahuatzin, had volunteered along with Tecciztecatl, a beautiful and wealthy god, to jump into the great bonfire. When the time came to jump, Tecciztecatl froze up, so Nanahuatzin jumped into the great bonfire and became our lord the Sun. Tecciztecatl, embarrassed, became our lord the Moon. Natlan seems to have pre-columbian Mesoamerican and West African inspirations, and it wouldn’t surprise me if hoyo took inspirations from our myth surrounding one of the Suns. In my opinion, the myth of the fifth sun could be seen as backing for the beliefs that Natlan will have themes of rebirth, and pyro as an element also seems to have themes of rebirth. The reason I mention this myth now, is that Perinheri journey begins with rebirth through fire. Natlan’s chapter is Incandescent Ode of Ressurection. The Narzissenkruez world quests revealed that Teyvat has had four samsaras, the current one the fourth. Descenders seem to have been what spurred the new cycles. Perhaps it is because they descend into the “fire” and begin a new cycle? The Tsaritsa seems to be planning for a new cycle, as whatever she does with the Gnoses will be very impactful. We know that Murata is going to give us insight to the Tsaritsa. What am I getting at? Tbh i have no fucking clue BUT ITS ALL REALLY INTERESTING THAT ALL THESE THINGS CONNECT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LEGEND OF THR FIFTH SUN COINCIDING WITH ALL THESE THEMES WE’RE GETTING OF REBIRTH BY FIRE, AND WORLD CYCLES
My interpretation from back when the final feast Fontaine teaser first released was that based on her character design and occult symbolism incorporated into her design was that she represents perihelion night or the moon bearing the authority of the sun or the sun bearing the authority of the moon. Like the transposition of opposites? I don’t want to outright say what I saw in a recent leak about her that made me think I was almost completely correct about her shape and the shadow she cast. Basically I said that her design screams the phrase “as above (Celestia), so below (abyss)” with a protection of the middle as though to declare what she protects and who she wishes to declare war against. This is because one of the most important things we are shown is the hand she snaps with after a huge buildup has that symbol of a blade upward a blade downward with a refuge or haven between them. Any conclusions extrapolating beyond just what’s literally worn out in the open or boring oh white is light and black is shadow oh that’s the abyss and the celestia might be tainted by leaks or reflections in other hoyo games now so I guess I won’t try to say it beyond this vibe based conceptual way.
This video did something for me. As a Child I always had a fear of a giant celestial eye watching me. It did happen in nightmares and when I zoned out, looking at me through my window and all that stuff. Now knowing that it's a symbol of wisdom and myself fearing it back then leaves something to unpack for myself.
A crimson moon also appeared in the Rukkadevata's realm of consciousness when we got on a floating boat. I think it's just a recreation of the landscape of the Cataclysm, but the texts in Sumeru say the moon became crescent(“sneering waning moon”) during the Cataclysm. So It seems like while the crimson moon appeared in the sky of Khaenri'ah, the crescent moon appeared in the sky of Sumeru. I don't know what this leads to, but it seems moon(s) are really connected to the Cataclysm.
Also, considering the symbolism of pyro, maybe the crimsom moon is the origin of the pyro element in the first place, as the pyro slimes also explode on death. It would also explain the whole of klee
This "rabbit hole" had my little legs peddling so fast as I tried to prevent my decent, but don't worry it was a fun trip. Thanks for the theory video, very entertaining!
I love that I'm not the only one considering the possibility that at least part of the Old Knave is in Arlecchino. I had this realization weeks ago, albeit with a slightly different perspective, but there's just something about it that rings true to me.
When you were talking about Acheron's lore I realized it's REALLY similar to Honkai Impact's part 2 lore with Oxia, Langqiu and the shus. I'm not intelligent enough to really connect the many themes that have showed up on part 2 lore but there's a lot
At 24:04, when you start asking about why the electro symbol has 3-fold symmetry if there are only twins, let me offer two possible explanations. 1) Scaramouche. 2) It could very well stand for Makoto, Ei, and Shogun.
The Herrscher of the void and the void divine key in honkai are all able to create bubble universes within the sea of quanta. I'm still sold on Teyvat being a shadow world that got knocked into the sea of quanta by Finality. And from Honkai Impact part 2's story..about this world that's alive in the sea of quanta but is trying to survive and are using these nails to suck up the mud that keeps leaking in from the sea is very very very similar to Genshin.
The developers said that Teyvat is a parallel world, not shadow or Buble world. And no, it's not THAT similar, it gives vibes of something similar, but it differs in concept.
@@iosis9324The world they are referring to is Mars that was destroyed by a cataclysm, it exists as a bubble world in the sea of data and was split into 2. One a vibrant modern society, the other a ailing place where they use nails to sustain the place. I think the theory of Genshins world existing near the roots of the tree is more likely, usually the more advanced civilisations tend to be higher up the tree.
@@iosis9324 Teyvat has it's own laws and has a giant tree that keeps data of everyone...I think it's safe to say that Teyvat is not a planet, and bubble worlds in the sea of quanta can still be parallel worlds, they're just parallel bubble worlds, we see this in Bronya's Arc when she became herrscher of reason/truth.
@@vlorggy But at the same time, literally the original inhabitants of this planet, who are Dragons, call this world a planet, also Skirk, who seem to be from another world altogether. The developers said that Teyvat is the same world in existence as the hi3rd world and they are next door neighbors, and they also said that since Teyvat is a parallel world, it is higher in existence than the buble worlds that players have seen before.
If hoth belonged to the crimson dynasty then Pierro who tried his ass off to convince the eclipse dynasty to not self implode and grew disilusioned with it might gladly take on the legacy of the crimson dynasty. Also if it's called the crimson dynasty perhaps they in general had blessings from the blood moon. So arlecchino might just carry those blessings and not necessarily be an envoy of the moon itself. Also I find it hard to believe the blackening limbs are necrosis as that'd render them unresponsive and unusable but hilichurls are just about as strong as ever despite being fully necrotic. Even if you go by undead magic it'd mean their bodies were to be decomposing but they're not falling apart.
to continue the link between ei and arlecchino, their charge attacks both resemble moons and sparkle differently to others! (compared to other polearm or sword users which "sparkle" such as yunjin, ayato and nilou, and jean with her dandelions, it's a brighter and more prominent sparkle)
In the Final Fantasy IX game there is a red eye in the sky that always appears before a great calamity, very similar to the bale moon. The charaters later discover that the eye is just the bottom of a giant airship that can cross between worlds.
I came back here after watching the animated short and I must say the she is indeed Peruere (i forgot the spelling) and that might be connected to "Perinheri" or the name is just an altered name if ever and she does indeed suffer from a curse. You have a penchant for predicting things, kinda amazing
WAIT OMG THIS LORE GIVES US A CROSS OVER/PARALLELS FROM KHAENRI’AH LORE AND ETHEL CAIN LORE. I love how so many different artists and creatives are referencing Cain and the Book of Genesis
![[4.6] The Secret Khaenri'ahn Bloodline - A Genshin Impact Theory](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/o1C0_p98Zhs/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[5.1] The Most Important Symbol In Genshin.... Maybe - A Genshin Impact Theory](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oFYIpNeY6Oc/mqdefault.jpg)
![[4.1] Speculating Arlecchino's Possible Identity - A Genshin Impact Theory](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XbOcDMHSQEU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[4.7] Of Sinners and Kings - Genshin Impact Lore & Theory](/img/n.gif)
**NOTES & CORRECTIONS**
- I'm aware that there's a gender change for Perinheri in Chinese, but from what I can tell it is ONLY in the traditional Chinese, not simplified or any other language. Roozevelt and I asked some native speakers on discord what they thought about it, and they didn't find it noteworthy. There's also a similar swapped gender change towards the King's advisor, and the gender matches the traveler in the case of both the advisor AND Perinheri... since that is the case, and we know Perinheri wasn't a descender but the traveler is, I'm inclined to disregard this as it appears to be a quirk of address unique to traditional Chinese. My mind is obviously STC with new information, but this is why I didn't include it in the video.
- I know it's ACK-eron not ASH-eron... I've just been pronouncing the soft CH since I was a kid and old habits die hard, oops.
- For that last mini-theory, I also forgot it was top THREE harbingers, not top FOUR which actually makes Arlecchino's situation kinda funny. I dunno if it changes my 4+7 = 11 thought experiment much beyond labeling, but we'll see!
cuz they use google translate and they won't check
so sometime "he" "他" will change into "she" "她"
The harbinger math is probably right since I don't think there's any mention of Arlacheno ever getting into a fight unlike the others, Capitano is Capitano so he checks out, Columbina is a supposed Seelie who retains her form and knowing what happened to the rest of her race, she checks out and Dottore as far as we know killed Erza without much trouble so that checks him out. Arlacheno is the only one with no records and probably for good reason since she's more of an Assassin so no witnesses.
So your accidental count of 4 might actually be on point.
The harbinger math is good and all with just one problem
We're still missing a Harbinger, 3 if you count Signiora and Scarmouche
Do you have a discord server??
What is the gender change? It changes depending on the traveler you pick? Or were you referring to Aether here as the traveler?
@@LeaksHater it shows sibling's gender basically but only for that one language version
"I cannot believe i had to look at underwear for lore" is a sentence I never expected to hear in my lifetime lmao
"Looking for lore" will never be the same again after this.
I'm not surprised by it - given the internet. I'm surprised that the first time I heard it was from Ashikai XD
sounds like something i'd here in a dark souls lore video ngl
Ever heard of dark souls? You’d be surprised lmao
"I cannot believe I had to look at underwear for lore"
This sacrifice will be remembered
Must be a wild time for Ashi to do that while fanning herself when trying to note each detail she could find eh? -_-:
"3 pyro characters dealing with death and rebirth" Diluc, summoning a literal Phoenix, found dead in a ditch 😂
👁👄👁oh my you're right.....and some even suggest he might be a descender(demigod) of murata
she specifies pyro characters specifically with butterfly motifs
Also his father died a few years ago.
@@eisflamme2438 AND HE INHERITED HIS DELUSION FOR A WHILE RAHHHH
there is a theory that all vision holders have something in common depending on the element they have, like anemo characters all are sad and edgy, hydro characters are sus or have a secret, dendro characters have something to do with wisdon, study, etc. The one for pyro was something about they have some kind of fatherly or motherly figure that they are taking over of (like their business or jobs) but tbh "death" could also be one.
"Some even disguised them as regular recipes in cook books" so Guhua master wasn't just hungry in his diaries?
holy shit
you... might be onto something there
Oh...
Wait a second....maybe
oh my fucking god
Never thought I’d see someone connect Arlecchino and Ei but here we are and I’m not mad
"Run if you value your lives. The frenzy has begun. The moon is red. We're out of time"
- Someone during past cataclysms, probably
Didn't expect to see this quote here
hello Shadow From The Eminence in shadow
@@sagaleuix2989 neither did i, but it's well welcomed
Bloodborne reference
Nah the moment I learned there's crimson moon stuff in the game I knew Shadow had a hand in it
the cackle that left me when I saw Deshret :D
"Of course you bring it back to Deshret!" I cackle while trying not to choke on my food. 🤣
Deshret is to Ashikai what Alex Brightman is to Danny Mota. At this point, I'm going to choose to imagine Deshret sounding like Alex Brightman lol
Deshret of Genshin's Otto Apocalypse at this point, since everything circles back to this man. And we don't even know his face!!
But I'm always down for more Deshret crumbs lol
24:48 just imagine the Traveler coming up to Ei being like "hey, i need to inspect your underwear, it's for lore reasons"
Fun fact in Nahuatl, the language that was spoken by the Aztecs, moths are called Mictlan papalotl, which means butterflies of the realm of the dead. Natlan, the nation of Rebirth, is inspired on pre-columbine cultures which includes the Aztecs, sooo… connection. We’ll prolly see many more butterfly/moth references in Natlan
And in Latin it's Papilio, French it's Papillon, Lithuanian it's Papelučkà. Papa - Father.
REBIRTH ? FIRE ? MOTH ? LA SIGNORA PLAYABLE CONFIRMED ?
Hu tao literally
@@artificialsteve yeah all these words come from the same root but it's has nothing to do with papa or father
@@bruhhhhh1666Sarcasm gets lost on the internet.
I kept waiting for the inevitable King Deshret reference and was not disappointed
Ashikai, at every video: This baby can fit so much King Deshret into it.
Perinheri = Perihelion maybe?
The Chimney is the Night Sky, with the stars the embers and ashen stardust scattered throughout it. At the ascent of the night sky sits the balemoon, a blood moon, strawberry moon or an eclipse. Ascension occurs when a thing upon/beneath the land crosses the horizon (the veil), ascending into the domain of the heavens (the night sky), before it reaches a zenith and begins to descend once more back to the Earth, crossing back over the veil, achieving a "rebirth".
Perihelion is the orbit of a celestial body, specially at the point when it reaches closest to the Sun (which sometimes "eclipses" it from the view on Earth).
in fact, there's even some gendered themes-- often, Solar is associated with masculinity (golden emperors, et. al.) while Lunar is associated with femininity; Queerness is associated with the liminality of change, which is closely tied to the cycles, the "light guiding the moon (lunisolar affinity with moonlight), and the liminality of an eclipse combining masculine with feminine forms. One famous example of this is from Elden Ring: Radagon = Marika. In Alchemy, this is associated with the non-binary Rebis, but queer gender expression is closely related to a majority of liminal deities, and many deities associated with magic.
interesting
It's also kinda coincidental that when you use Forbidden Knowledge, the user's eyes turn red, and they have a red aura.
My gut tells me that another link between Liyue and Perinheri and the *Legend of Shattered Harlberd* is the mysterious *Nine Pillars of Peace* ruin in Cuijue slope you open with the nine stones of remembrance that you collect from the Geo statues.
Native Chinese speaker here, the more common meaning of Wangsheng (which is a Buddhist term) people accept nowadays is “pass away to Amitabha’s realm” or simply “pass away”. It is mostly used as a euphemism for “die”, because many Buddhist terminologies are nowadays blending with normal words without religious vibe in modern Chinese 😂
And for most people, Wangsheng is more like the word to say“dying peacefully” in Chinese.
I love the minor connection between Bloodborne/Lady Maria and Arlecchino.
Lady Maria did horrible things until she couldn't stomache her dual sword. Afterwards she took up care of people who were experimented upon to try and make Celestial emissaries. Being their only comfort in their agony.
She also uses blood and fire in her boss fight. Partly because of her blood relation with Annalise, Queen of the vilebloods.
There is also an orphanage in Bloodborne's upper Cathedral ward in the city of Yharnam. Which houses children of Great Ones(the Eldritch gods in the setting) As seen when another character gives birth to one when the Blood moon descends upon the city. Though it doesn't relate to Lady Maria.
There's much more to uncover with Lady Maria, but I'd recommend playing the game and experiencing it yourself.
I love that you never stopped calling the Sustainer Susty xD its just so good
Susty Suslana
The idea of creating Descenders through alchemy could tie into the Primordial Human project (and would explain some similarities between Albedo and the Traveler). And while the name would suggest some sort of original prior form of humans rather than aliens, considering before sun and moon, the original prior form of humans *was* aliens/descenders.
Traversing the fires of two worlds reminds me of the description of the PS5 exclusive wings:
"But when you face a force enough to destroy one, or even two worlds," You do not truly remember who it was who had treated the two of you ever so gently. You wish you could remember... "When you face a boundless darkness, or an all-consuming radiance..." But that was one world ago.
Its possible these are both referencing a specific set of two worlds, like it feels like a particular recurring phrasing (my moneys on teyvat and khaenriah, hinging on them being seperate but connected worlds rather than both part of one world)
Interestingly the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles *also* has the blackened arms (I think it could be a style callback to kiana whose arms are blackened in a similar way after a near death experience) but considering the potential connection between arle and the moon sisters, Susty could totally be an undead (or half dead?) moon sister. Also *Skirks* arms are dark blue at the ends too and she says she doesnt want to return to the surface because "To live is in itself a blessing. But once a person dies, the bonds he once had with this world shall all turn to curses."
Also now I need to go reread everything written by Mr Nine because you know what else is weird about the parallels? Acherons an emanator of the aeon known as "IX". they might both just be referencing The Hermit card but. A reread is in order.
@26:20 i was so sure this was going to be a video with no mention of Deshret that i had a comment typed out ready to point out how wild that is and there he is lol
LOL ....can't miss deshret
Baby steps - she waited an ENTIRE 14 minutes to mention the Moon Sisters!
She could change her profile picture to a fan art of Deshret and it would still fit her channel
At this point Deshret should be the mascot instead of Yanfei-
WAKE UP ASHIKAI JUST UPLOADED 🤯🤯🤯
GOD HAS NOT FORSAKEN US
I was gonna say the same but here in India it's don't sleep early
Finally I’ll get to eat
Can't wait for 4.6 patch. I hope it has a ton of juicy lore.
Something fun about the pyro element:
The pyro vision holders just so happen to inherit legacies.
Yoimiya, Xiangling, Amber, Diluc, Chevreuse, Dehya, Bennett, Hu Tao and Arlecchino are taking over after their relatives.
Gaming, Thoma and Yanfei stepped up to take on important cultural roles.
Lyney was the apprentice of a legendary magician.
Klee is just like her mother, a possible descender.
And then Xinyan. Does rock and roll count as a legacy?
Pyro can be seen as the element that had the torch passed on to them.
hell yeah. except Dehya. and signora.. both ashes. LOL jk
@@jonathan0225Dehya inherited something too, she counts.
That signora joke is so stale btw
@@1swagevilregalallen479 true, a signora a dead horse fosho. Dehya inherited the worst design. Truly an inheritance. Jk jk. 🤭
Yet another stolen theories 😂
@@cheeryberrie ?
Considering Ei is my favourite character I've always hoped they would go more into her lore and do more with a Mei expy. This only raises my suspicions that Hoyo has more hidden about her that will only come to light later on
Interesting note about the connection between the butterfly symbols and pyro, plus the Raiden Shogun: Yoimiya also has butterflies featured in her design (ponytail shape, necklace, tattoos, etc) and her signature bow Thundering Pulse was originally crafted by the Shogun as a gift to the Tengu Reizenbou
Yoimiya's tattoo is of a goldfish surrounded by fireworks not a butterfly.
Edit: after taking a closer look at her tattoo I noticed that the purple lines beside the golfish tattoo also makes it look like half a butterfly wing.
And the fireworks around the goldfish at the same time also look like flowers.
... no? Yoimiya has a goldfish motif, not butterflies
She does have a butterfly on her necklace. And a type of goldfish in Japanese is often called butterfly koi or even dragon koi due to their resemblance.
@Shush7717 I misremembered her tattoo design, I thought it had a butterfly too but I was thinking of the flowers
@@eggmn9ne it's both
*Every other Pyro user's idea of rebirth:* Butterfly
*Diluc:* Wrong answer. It's a phoenix.
If fire means rebirth, is that the reason why dottore is burning the irminsul on the sumeru PV? He is burning away the old world, as pierro says, so a new one can be reborn.
I mention this bc a few days ago the writers for genshin did an interview/lecture on a university and they mentioned that that scene with dottore is part of a future plot.
4:45 considering Albedo mentions in the second dragonspine event that cooking isn’t that hard because its similar to alchemy must have been a galaxy sized brain foreshadowing.
People saying that Ei "has no lore left" and that "we know everything about her" just have no clue about anything at this point lmao, the fact that there is a Raiden expy and a Kiana expy in this game and they haven't interacted yet(be it as friend of foe) just tells you that Ei is most likely the most important Archon for future reference that we have as of now. Just think about it, we have no clue what's up with the Electro Sovereign at all, not a single mention of a dragon in Inazuma, we don't even know what Ei and Makoto are, or what Makoto knew or how exactly she died, you can bet your ass that Hoyo isn't going to let their Mei expy in the dust.
HOPEFULLY
I'm sorry, but genshin players assuming Ei has no more lore are not really dumb, they just don't play honkai. Ei's lore importance has been so much more subtle than all the other archon, you can't fault genshin players for not reading into cryptic item and ability names, or studying the story of a completely different game. People aren't that sweaty.
Yep, people said that on every character is very dumb, if necessary HoYo could just create a new lore then link it to the old characters.
Yeah no lets hope she has no lore left. Worst archon and worst nation. If she's relevant beyond that trashfire of a chapter, then genshin is dead lmao
@@jadecoolness101 You must be pretty sad.
Wait wait wait that's not what Acheron's trailer was about. First off iirc it was then implied that beings from takemagahara were themselves refugees. Secound Izumo didn't forge the 12 sentinels out of nothing they first broke 70k+ blades and reforged them into the 12 sentinels. This is important as as with the last blade it's implied these blades are lives too. 70k+ lost their lives fighting the invading takamagahara and from the remains of powerful takamagahara (herrscher equivalents) they forged the 12 sentinels (herrscher core equivalents) to fight back. At last the 12 sentinels alone were not enough so they were yet again broken and reforged into the last 2 origin and end corresponding to mei and kevin in hi3. Mei(Acheron) won and killed kevin but in doing so sacrificed everything. She was the last living thing on izumo and she realized the bright future they were all fighting for in the first place never existed as takamagahara and izumo weren't orbiting a sun but a black hole meaning they were all boned from the start. So she strode into nihility's shadow and reforged her broken life into nothingness the last blade (also became a self annihilator and by clinging on to what little self she had and refusing to fade away but also remaining aware of how pointless her existence is she also became the nihility emanator). In comparison in hi3 kiana existed giving hope to everyone and so the world was not as hurt, in the end kiana embraced the end and became the herrscher of finality (probably an emanator).
Now I'm no expert in both stories so this'd be a very barebones explanation.
Dehya's character card is literally called PURIFYING FLAME
My Name for Now, theorized that Arlechinno could possibly be a red dwarf star, which is the most common star in the sky. We know that Khanriah was trying to summon a descender, a golden star. It would make sense that when summoning golden stars. He also connected Genshin to an anime called the Angel and the Egg, and how it also had a giant moon with an eye. Anyhow you should check out some of his theories. Also it’s super annoying that you have keep clarifying that games are not connected because the Genshin community melts down about it. All games takes place in the Hoyoverse which is on the Imaginary Tree, among the Sea of Quanta. I wish the fandom would let you cook without crying about it.
His theory is a 1 hour and 20 minutes long movie. Very few people have enough patience to watch all of that lol...
@@SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt It's long but it's very informative.
from what I hear it's more the Honkai fans that rage about being lumped with Genshin than the other way around
@@brokencreativity7266 in the earliest days, it was THEY who insisted that connection
ppl are so annoyed that these games are connected they even pulled out a pic showing how games with honkai in their names are not connected by a line with genshin
though that pic was about IP and stock market but who cares right
id like to point out raiden’s skill and burst creates a large eye shape.
well after playing the arlecchino quest yea we NEED a revisit to this theory
I can't wait for the new video about Arlecchino because of the story quest. I am pretty sure there was a significance in it because the traveler even said it out loud that what he/she sees is a crimson moon. Maybe the same that we saw when the cataclysm happened.
The 11 harbinger thing: I always kinda thought it was paralleling the 13 Flamechasers in HI3 with Piero being Kevin and the Tsaritsa being Elysia. Especially after being Fu Hua's new battlesuit outfit coming next patch being compared to Arlechino. I was drawing parallels between Mobius and Dotorre and kalpas and childe. Its a loose theory but I think Hoyo does like to repeat themes in their games even if they aren't directly connected. As an artist I tend to revisit the same themes over and over again in my work so it makes sense to me.
Considering what they have done, I've long been equating the Fools as the Italian theatrical world serpent
Zhongli-Azure Empyrea/Phoenix (wise yet brutal leader), Ganyu-Valkyrie Accipiter/Hawk of the Fog (isolated person having difficulty adjusting with the times, detective), Xiao-Shadow Knight (survivor's guilt, defender), and the flat chestedness of all Liyue Pyro girls (element) all go back to Fu Hua.
Mobius (my beloved) pretty much has her design fingerprints all over Surcose, Gold (mixed with Eden), Baizhu, and Dottore (in my headcanon, the aforementioned affair with Kalpas as Elysia joked).
@@themarky2714 "the afforementioned affair with kalpas as Elysia joked"
*Vine boom* say what now???
FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE RED MOON AND RAIDEN EXPYS.
This particular topic has been driving me crazy for ages especially since Honkai World Diva exists.
Genshin Expys are some of the most frustrating things to understand lore-wise and it's hard to explain to people why it matters but also kind of doesn't. It's all very metiphorical and it makes my brain hurt.
Acheron and welt's conversation finally touched on it in the recent trailblaze mission. It's as we suspected, the imaginary tree simply has alternate versions of the same people that walk on similar yet distinct paths. Welt was not the first look-alike acheron met and obviously acheron was not the first look-alike welt met either. But it's still handled strangely cuz there have been many times in HI3 where look-alikes do not get acknowledged at all. Mei literally met somebody that has the same name, appearance and voice as her yet nobody, not even Kiana acknowledged it. Same could be said with Prometheus, nobody said anything about the fact that she looks and sounds exactly like bronya. Maybe people only become aware of this phenomena when the look-alikes are from different worlds? Cuz the Dr MEI and Prometheus are still from the same planet, just from a different cycle of the finality samsara.
@@zenzonerzz4789 Honkai Star Rail Welt isn't a look alike, he is the same Welt from HI3, and he travelled to the Star Rail Universe. Read his Light Cone in the game, and his splash art has HI3 characters. Also, here's a quote from the Welt page on the Star Rail Wiki "Trivia: Welt in Honkai: Star Rail is the same iteration of him as seen in Honkai Impact 3rd. His story takes place after the events of the "Alien Space" manga and A Post-Honkai Odyssey. He left Earth after an alien invasion, hoping to protect other worlds from similar predicaments. While Honkai: Star Rail has not directly addressed his past, there are numerous allusions to Honkai Impact 3rd's storyline."
@@zenzonerzz4789 the Mei and Dr MEI situation is confusing coz in the CN audio their names are different but also not. Mei: Yayi and Dr MEI: Mei... the characters for her (Raiden Mei) name are written the same in JP and CN but pronounced differently, they do this with Inazuma characters in Genshin too. But I noticed that Dr MEI is referred to as "Mei" even in CN. And since Raiden Mei is Japanese in canon well, yeah it makes it even more confusing that they never bring it up. Especially since Kevin is basically genderbent Kiana (literally in GGZ) and Kevin and Dr MEI are well... yeah.
@@untamedrose30 I know, I'm very well versed in honkai lore as a longtime fan. I'm saying that from acheron's perspective, welt isn't the first "welt" she met. She had her own version of welt as well, that would make him a look-alike to her.
I was waiting for a theory from Ashikai as soon as I realised the book was a lore bomb. Thanks!
now that we have more information from the livestream they have similar burst lines in japanese "lightning/the moon shines eternal" 🙀
and her weekly boss form wings look similar to the statue in inazuma 🙀
u cooked with this one omg
speaking of pyro and resurrection, I find the story of how benny boy got his vision very weird. It almost sounds like he dies- he was wounded, lost a lot of blood and lost onsciousness. He later wakes up to find out wounds have been cauterized by some flame, and for some reason the blood he had already lost doesn't seem to cause any issues. And for some reason he gets a vision when he wakes up (I don't really think the vision was the thing that healed him, as far as I know a vision itself doesnt have any healing properties, maybe the vision wielders do possess such abilities after recreciving a vision, but not the vision itself). I know many people have connected bennet to the lavawalker and possibly the pheonix before- which doesn't seem unreasonable at all. But if it is true that he is the pheonix/lavawalker reincarnated, what I find interesting is that him dying and being reborn makes him worthy of a vision.
The Ambition to live, probably
I feel like this might be some of hoyoverses fate/stay night influences popping up. In my head visions are somewhat comparable to magical crests. In f/sn magical crests can't heal a mage that posesses one, but the crest is capable of sustaining their life. Maybe visions have a similar passive supporting abilities?
@@sfjuhispst8144As for me, Visions are more like magical girls in madoka magica (hoyoverse are fans of this franchise, they even made a crossover between gzz and Madoka once). Vision-users unknowingly sign a contract that forever chains their soul to the world, they cannot leave their Vision for a long time and one day they have to pay some unknown very high price for their Vision.
Talking about herrscher and rebirth there's another parallel I thought about. In HI3 Seele became the herrscher of rebirth and also uses scythe. I think she was also in the sea of quanta at one point (I'm not on point with HI3 lore) and when you mentioned forbidden knowledge it made me think of the abyss which I think is quite similar. On top of that there's Seele quantum type in HSR and she glitches from reality similar to Arlecchino in some of her animations. And there's also a reccuring theme of orphans surrounding those character.
Not sure there's a lot to take from that though, just a parallel I thought about while watching the video
Are you keeping an eye on the new Honkai Impact 3 Pt. 2 story? Seven nails to remove the evil from the world ....
Alright Cyno, you need to check what you said
The Shu's also have to sacrifice something of themselves to create their nails. I wonder if the nails are created in a similar way.
Okay, I was NOT expecting the Raiden connection with the crimson moon, but with things called baleful vajra, balethunder in Musoujin gorge, baleful shadowlord, my senses should've been tingling the moment hoyo dropped Arlecchino's drip marketing. It really does implicate the Raiden twins into the Honkai-esque lore of genshin.
Maybe the reason emphasis was put on Raiden's sword wasn't just because uwu lord of weeb land has magical super sword, but that sword is also some kind of divine key from the crimson moon? This puts so much sus in my mind to other stuff that other archons have, specifically the holy lyre der himmel, since Venti also has a herrscher equivalent in HI3, and is just sus in general (Would a divine key have healing/purifying properties though? I would probably know if I finished HI3, but I didn't). Also, wtf was Guizhong's box to Zhongli?
I hope Ei will have an actually important part to play in a later time. After all, Mei was willing to be a *sinner* to save Kiana. Having the Mei and Kiana expy not interact at all would be foul.
As always, Ashi COOKED with this one!
Ever since I saw a Genshin UA-camr talk about how The Angel's Egg anime film relates to Genshin, I wonder what you would think of it because ever since I saw that, I can't stop thinking about it! Especially as it relates to Perinheri and this new lore we have.
I've wanted to watch that film for so long and now I must
About Ei, I remember telling this to friends a long time ago shortly after her second quest- if the Raiden twins have a direct connection to the Unknown god (allegedly Kiana) it's impossible to know because Makoto is fricking dead. Unless Genshin pulls out one of those characters that knew of the Raiden twins and maybe even knew Makoto personally (and wasn't a baby at the time like Miko).
I personally think the Kiana is Istaroth not Susty. Since even in HI3, HoV is not technically Kiana. And since Istaroth helped Makoto I believe that that's the Mei and Kiana duo in GI
Maybe, HSR has two versions of Bronya anyway
And Raiden connections to the moon doesnt stop there. Her charged attack is a crescent moon and the omnipresent god statue and shes also likely à reference to Guanyin
2.1 HSR spoilers real quick:
with Boothill's introduction it's very clear he's Arlecchino's envoy (I mean just look at him.)-- what i now find interesting is that we now know he is hunting down Acheron. Raiden's counterpart.
it also seems he's also gone through a theme of death and rebirth as he has a cybernetic body.
the themes~~
Omg ???
Arlecchino is heavily based on raven from Honkai impact 3rd, who Natasha is based on, so It would be really weird to have an expy of an expy of a character we already have an expy for. Plus, Boothill has literally nothing in common with arlecchino except the hair, which is also just a normal anime thing. I've thought of a character with mishmashed black and white hair, and he was in my head before Arlecchino was revealed.
All I got from this comment is that Arle is going to be part of the "Fucked around and found out" club.
Having Singnora amd Wanderer featuring in this with rebirth themes... And with Childe having been changed by the abyss... Have all the Harbingers been through a process akin to death? Dottore has clones that have died, too. How curious.
I'm just going off my vague memory of Arlecchino's quest, but i seem to recall not just a blood moon showing up in the fight, but also a reference to 'two worlds'. I think your connection of Arle to the perinheri book is spot on, at that point.
Now I want Arlecchino to meet Ei
coming back here already after the 4.6 trailer and i WILL come back again after her teaser and her quest 💀🙏
Ok this doesn't have much to do with the theory but one thing to point out. While acheron is mentioned in dante's inferno, it is not originally from anything catholic or demonic(especially seeing as how the divine comedy is not even canon). Acheron is one of the 5 rivers that lead to the underworld and it is also the largest river. It's the first river that leads to underworld and it is where the dead wake up and where charon leads them to the gates of the underworld by ferry(provided they have the payment, if they don't, they have to walk the banks of acheron and styx for a hundred years). The underworld is often mistaken as hell cuz our world today and our views on the afterlife are dominated by abrahamic beliefs but this is not the case. The underworld and hades are simply the after life and the god of the dead repsectively, they are not hell and satan. The underworld is also where the greek limbo and heaven resides.
can't believe it took until the end of the video for ashikai to talk about deshret, that has to be a new record
jokes aside, great video!
25 minutes without mentioning or referring Deshret is a record. Well done.
Some dumb part of my brain wonders if Crimson Moon dynasty had crosses for eyes, similar to how Eclipse dynasty has rhombus...
also what kinda Eclipse is it, Lunar or Solar Eclipse? Cus if it's Solar, it's DESHRET! crackles**
By the way, during the livestream there's a moment they name Arlecchino, during the boss fight second phase, as "Cinder of Two World's Flames".
Ever since reading the book and watching roo’s video, I’ve been waiting for you to drop this video, and needless to say, this is gonna be a banger. I just know it. :DD
And it was😭
往生means after-death life or life after death. The meaning of Rebirth is hinted but not semantically strong. Source: native speaker.
real
can't wait your reaction and thoughts to arlecchino's story quest.
I COME AFTER THE 4.6 UPDATE. NOWAY SHE WAS RIGHT!!
DESHRET STOP APPEARING ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE
(he's salty he only got like 30 seconds of screentime, so he makes up for it by being in almost every part of the lore)
Ashikai’s obsession with deshret had gone too far.
You know...
The fact that it took me till this video for me to realize that variants of Kiana, Mei, and Bronya being the Moon Sisters is a possibility makes me feel a little silly, considering how obvious the theory is now. lol It's also a theory that perhaps has the most evidence. And by evidence, I mean one, not very strong evidence with the statue of one of the Moon Sisters being in Inazuma, where a variant of Mei rules the nation. lol
But this video was nice. Though it probably would have been better to call this a Periheri, Arlecchino, and Raiden Ei theory video consider how often Ei came up. aha I do at least agree with the fact that with this book series releasing right before Arlecchino's release, that this book may foreshadow something in the next patch, and like you, I think it relates to how the House of the Hearth was formed and how exactly Arlecchino became the current Knave.
Great Video, Loved the Comparison of themes and ideas from HSR, looking forward to any more thematic connections in the future, possible between boothill and arlechino coz they look so suspiciously similar
i thought we made it through without a Deshret refrence this time besties
24:50 the way I choked when I heard that 😂😂😂 jokes aside, I didn't even notice the butterfly details in ei's clothing (aside from her hairpin, which I just took in as an extra aesthetic piece)
Watching an Ashikai video this early in the morning promises to activate my brain for the rest of the day!
arlecchino's colour scheme and design kind of looks like ashes and embers. a will passed down from the original orphanage, perhaps?
Something that I find interesting, as it correlates specifically to my knowledge as someone who practices a modern day version of aztec religion and has heard the stories many times, is that we have a story about rebirth which also has to do with fire. In short, in order to create a new sun(the most recent one, in fact), a god needed to jump into a pit of fire to be reborn as the Sun. Lifeforms already existed, but it needed the Sun to spur it into living, so you could say that a god’s sacrifice was needed to begin a new world, or world cycle. Also, the god who became the Sun, Nanahuatzin, was the humble god(dess) of blisters. Nanahuatzin, had volunteered along with Tecciztecatl, a beautiful and wealthy god, to jump into the great bonfire. When the time came to jump, Tecciztecatl froze up, so Nanahuatzin jumped into the great bonfire and became our lord the Sun. Tecciztecatl, embarrassed, became our lord the Moon.
Natlan seems to have pre-columbian Mesoamerican and West African inspirations, and it wouldn’t surprise me if hoyo took inspirations from our myth surrounding one of the Suns. In my opinion, the myth of the fifth sun could be seen as backing for the beliefs that Natlan will have themes of rebirth, and pyro as an element also seems to have themes of rebirth.
The reason I mention this myth now, is that Perinheri journey begins with rebirth through fire. Natlan’s chapter is Incandescent Ode of Ressurection. The Narzissenkruez world quests revealed that Teyvat has had four samsaras, the current one the fourth. Descenders seem to have been what spurred the new cycles. Perhaps it is because they descend into the “fire” and begin a new cycle? The Tsaritsa seems to be planning for a new cycle, as whatever she does with the Gnoses will be very impactful. We know that Murata is going to give us insight to the Tsaritsa.
What am I getting at? Tbh i have no fucking clue BUT ITS ALL REALLY INTERESTING THAT ALL THESE THINGS CONNECT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LEGEND OF THR FIFTH SUN COINCIDING WITH ALL THESE THEMES WE’RE GETTING OF REBIRTH BY FIRE, AND WORLD CYCLES
My interpretation from back when the final feast Fontaine teaser first released was that based on her character design and occult symbolism incorporated into her design was that she represents perihelion night or the moon bearing the authority of the sun or the sun bearing the authority of the moon. Like the transposition of opposites? I don’t want to outright say what I saw in a recent leak about her that made me think I was almost completely correct about her shape and the shadow she cast. Basically I said that her design screams the phrase “as above (Celestia), so below (abyss)” with a protection of the middle as though to declare what she protects and who she wishes to declare war against. This is because one of the most important things we are shown is the hand she snaps with after a huge buildup has that symbol of a blade upward a blade downward with a refuge or haven between them. Any conclusions extrapolating beyond just what’s literally worn out in the open or boring oh white is light and black is shadow oh that’s the abyss and the celestia might be tainted by leaks or reflections in other hoyo games now so I guess I won’t try to say it beyond this vibe based conceptual way.
25:45 I thought she was going to mention The Sinner's line about shedding a tear for us at the end of time but the rabbit hole is already deep enough
This video did something for me.
As a Child I always had a fear of a giant celestial eye watching me. It did happen in nightmares and when I zoned out, looking at me through my window and all that stuff.
Now knowing that it's a symbol of wisdom and myself fearing it back then leaves something to unpack for myself.
Another great video, Ashikai!
I LOVE HOW TO TALK ABOUT EI !!! IKR ??!?!! THERE MUST BE SOME CONNECTION ABOUT THAT MOON STUFF AND BUTTERFLY DESIGN ?!!
A crimson moon also appeared in the Rukkadevata's realm of consciousness when we got on a floating boat. I think it's just a recreation of the landscape of the Cataclysm, but the texts in Sumeru say the moon became crescent(“sneering waning moon”) during the Cataclysm. So It seems like while the crimson moon appeared in the sky of Khaenri'ah, the crescent moon appeared in the sky of Sumeru. I don't know what this leads to, but it seems moon(s) are really connected to the Cataclysm.
Also, considering the symbolism of pyro, maybe the crimsom moon is the origin of the pyro element in the first place, as the pyro slimes also explode on death.
It would also explain the whole of klee
This "rabbit hole" had my little legs peddling so fast as I tried to prevent my decent, but don't worry it was a fun trip. Thanks for the theory video, very entertaining!
Ei has the same particles as the large hole in the sumeru desert before you reseal it ❤
ooo i have been waiting for Ashikai’s analysis/theories on this book after it dropped!!
Thanks for including the Honkai Impact and Honkai Star Rail THEMES that fit with Genshin.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COVER THIS BOOK I AM SO HAPPY
I legitimately died of laughter when you managed to put Deshret connection at the end of the video, you just can't make one without the guy 😂
I love that I'm not the only one considering the possibility that at least part of the Old Knave is in Arlecchino. I had this realization weeks ago, albeit with a slightly different perspective, but there's just something about it that rings true to me.
When you were talking about Acheron's lore I realized it's REALLY similar to Honkai Impact's part 2 lore with Oxia, Langqiu and the shus. I'm not intelligent enough to really connect the many themes that have showed up on part 2 lore but there's a lot
At 24:04, when you start asking about why the electro symbol has 3-fold symmetry if there are only twins, let me offer two possible explanations.
1) Scaramouche.
2) It could very well stand for Makoto, Ei, and Shogun.
The Herrscher of the void and the void divine key in honkai are all able to create bubble universes within the sea of quanta. I'm still sold on Teyvat being a shadow world that got knocked into the sea of quanta by Finality. And from Honkai Impact part 2's story..about this world that's alive in the sea of quanta but is trying to survive and are using these nails to suck up the mud that keeps leaking in from the sea is very very very similar to Genshin.
Wow…I’m mind blown at this rn
The developers said that Teyvat is a parallel world, not shadow or Buble world.
And no, it's not THAT similar, it gives vibes of something similar, but it differs in concept.
@@iosis9324The world they are referring to is Mars that was destroyed by a cataclysm, it exists as a bubble world in the sea of data and was split into 2. One a vibrant modern society, the other a ailing place where they use nails to sustain the place. I think the theory of Genshins world existing near the roots of the tree is more likely, usually the more advanced civilisations tend to be higher up the tree.
@@iosis9324 Teyvat has it's own laws and has a giant tree that keeps data of everyone...I think it's safe to say that Teyvat is not a planet, and bubble worlds in the sea of quanta can still be parallel worlds, they're just parallel bubble worlds, we see this in Bronya's Arc when she became herrscher of reason/truth.
@@vlorggy But at the same time, literally the original inhabitants of this planet, who are Dragons, call this world a planet, also Skirk, who seem to be from another world altogether. The developers said that Teyvat is the same world in existence as the hi3rd world and they are next door neighbors, and they also said that since Teyvat is a parallel world, it is higher in existence than the buble worlds that players have seen before.
I love that you're pointing out bread metaphors right when thr Anya Nami bread song is everywhere lololol
The Scara trailer also parallels Signora's plight, because the only piece we have of her left is the "Ashen Heart"
omg YES i was just thinking about how much i needed a new ashikai video
i love being dumb enough to not be able uncover this myself, but smart enough to understand your theories :DD
Hope u get a tons Of Subscribers...😊 Your content surely is something people love to see
I was not expecting a Signalis reference with that Red Eye
If hoth belonged to the crimson dynasty then Pierro who tried his ass off to convince the eclipse dynasty to not self implode and grew disilusioned with it might gladly take on the legacy of the crimson dynasty. Also if it's called the crimson dynasty perhaps they in general had blessings from the blood moon. So arlecchino might just carry those blessings and not necessarily be an envoy of the moon itself. Also I find it hard to believe the blackening limbs are necrosis as that'd render them unresponsive and unusable but hilichurls are just about as strong as ever despite being fully necrotic. Even if you go by undead magic it'd mean their bodies were to be decomposing but they're not falling apart.
to continue the link between ei and arlecchino, their charge attacks both resemble moons and sparkle differently to others! (compared to other polearm or sword users which "sparkle" such as yunjin, ayato and nilou, and jean with her dandelions, it's a brighter and more prominent sparkle)
In the Final Fantasy IX game there is a red eye in the sky that always appears before a great calamity, very similar to the bale moon. The charaters later discover that the eye is just the bottom of a giant airship that can cross between worlds.
I’m just thinking of natlan implications every time there’s more fire associated with rebirth. I’m super excited for natlan to come out.
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AND HERE I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA GET AWAY WITH NO KING DESHRET 😭😭
That was .... Alot of lore.
I came back here after watching the animated short and I must say the she is indeed Peruere (i forgot the spelling) and that might be connected to "Perinheri" or the name is just an altered name if ever and she does indeed suffer from a curse. You have a penchant for predicting things, kinda amazing
WAIT OMG THIS LORE GIVES US A CROSS OVER/PARALLELS FROM KHAENRI’AH LORE AND ETHEL CAIN LORE. I love how so many different artists and creatives are referencing Cain and the Book of Genesis