Pro-Ject Debut Pro vs Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Evo | Which turntable is best for you?
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
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In 2020, @Projectaudiosystems released the latest version - the Debut Carbon EVO. The first time we played around with the EVO, we could tell it was going to be an outstanding value. We also love the way Pro-Ject gives up an upgrade path on the Debut line to make it sound even better over time. For the 30th anniversary of the original Pro-Ject turntable, Pro-Ject has introduced a new audiophile-grade model called the Debut PRO. When you first look at the Debut PRO compared to the EVO, you will notice some differences, however, in some areas the two tables seem pretty similar.
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Very impressive. I love how the EVO pro sees like a no-nonsense unit with high performance at the core.
The arm on the new Debut Pro is impressive. Thanks for watching
The Debut Carbon Evo is a really great table. I really appreciate this comparison. Now I gotta hear the new Pro. Thanks again, Leon!
Thank you!
The comparison I wanted was the Pro vs X1. For $200 difference you get a more expensive stylus and a acrylic platter
We started to do that comparison but decided to compare it to the EVO. We may still do it in the future. You can reach out to our team at www.audio advice.com for more info. Thanks for watching
Are those the only 2 benefits of the x1?
Very cool, seems like some pretty substantial upgrades while still holding true to Pro-Jects ability to upgrade the table even further.
Thanks!
I love my pro-ject Evo, great turntable.
This pro version is very temping.
It is right much better to our ears. Thanks for watching
10:02: "The sound begins at your turntable, and if it's not captured there, nothing else in your chain can bring it back."
That is correct
Thank You for the review. Please tell me if the tone arm has the capability for VTA adjustment at the base of the arm. This is my prime requirement for buying a turntable because I like to change cartridges frequently.
Glad you liked it. The Pro has VTA. There are two small hex set screws in the rear base of the arm. Thanks for watching
Great comparison, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching
Awesome video.. I was thinking about the Fluance RT85, which is definitely much cheaper. Which one would be more value for money.. Pro-Ject Pro, Pro-Ject Evo or Fluance RT85
Thank you, please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for the best advice.
I'm a vinyl enthusiast and I live in Brazil. Here the information is very scarce. My intention is to listen to vinyl records and I currently have a Marantz PM8006 Amplifier, Elipson Prestige Facet 8B speakers and a Turnable AT-LP1240 with Ortofon 2m RED.
I want to change my capsule, I wanted to buy an ortofon 2m black. However, I was unsure whether I should also change my AT-LP1240 since it is more aimed at DJs (I didn't really understand this at the time I bought it).
My question is: Should I actually change the AT-LP1240? I thought about purchasing a Raga Planar 3 or Pro-ject RPM 3, or perhaps even a Pro-Ject 1Xpression. Is changing the record player really recommended? Should I really get another sound experience with better quality for my purpose?
I already know the capsule is terrible and should at least go to an Ortofon 2m Silver!
Thanks to anyone who can help!
We answered this in another video. Thanks for watching
Great info I love viny I'm 62 and still have most of all mine from the 70s would love one of these someday .do you have any recommendations for a good vinyl cleaner like I said still have mine from 70s and they (200) could use a professional cleaning.thanks in advance for you great company and fantastic reviews
Thanks Jeff. You were really smart to hang on to your vinyl. A few originals in good shape might pay for a great wet cleaning machine. Check out Discogs for pricing on used vinyl. This is a great cleaner. www.audioadvice.com/pro-ject-vinyl-cleaner-vc-e
I own the Pro Ject VC-E and it does one heck of a job cleaning vinyl, but if you are on a budget I recommend the Spin Clean manual record cleaner. It also does a very good job cleaning vinyl and costs much less.
Great video. Just curious but how would the Evo with an Acryl-It platter compare to the Pro? I bought my Evo back when it first released and was wondering if the acrylic platter is truly a worthwhile upgrade?
Thank you, there are other things you should do first, check out this video we did on the best upgrades for all Debut tables. Thanks for watching www.audioadvice.com/videos-reviews/upgrade-your-pro-ject-debut-series-turntable/
So many turntables to choose from
These days,the vinyl resurgence
Is well beyand being called a resurgence
Yes, it is fully entrenched now! Thanks for watching
Great video, what do you recommend as an upgrade to the Pick It Pro MM cartridge ? It’s not clear if the pick it pro is similar to the silver. Could a blue stylus slide on or should one go up to the Bronze? Cheers
Thank you. That is a European model, but based on its price, the Blue would probably mate up to it, however we recommend you check with someone who has more knowledge on the makeup of the Pick It Pro. Thanks for watching
The Pick It Pro is basically an Ortofon Red but finetuned by Pro-Ject/Ortofon especially for the Debut Pro.
You can indeed use an Ortofon Blue on this cartridge (nude Elliptical instead of the regular one the Red an Pick It Pro).
If you want to use a Bronze you better also change the cartridge. It will fit the original cartridge but you'll never will get the full quality/advantage because of internal upgrades of the cartridge for the bronze (nude Fine line) / Black (Shibata) stylus.
@@davef4722 thanks Dave. We thought it might be a modified Red based on the price. Appreciate you sharing.
@@davef4722 thank you Dave do you have experience with the blue/bronze/black as upgrades? Looking at either of those , Goldring or Nagaoka. Appreciate your help.
@@AudioAdvice thank you bought in Canada I think we also get the European models. Followed your video and didn’t realize different cartridges and the anti skate goes on the 3rd notch vs 2nd from memory kept falling off the second thought I was doing something wrong until I realized the carts were different. Great videos and channel.
i watched ur review a few times and wow what a great review thank u
Glad you liked it! Thanks very much
@@AudioAdvice i bought and used ur video to set it up cheers
Very informative!
Hi, have you try using this table with the new subplatter? And if so, how big is the improvement?
Thanks!
It is an improvement for the EVO. We sold out of them before we were able to test with the new PRO. More are supposed to be here in December. Thanks for watching
7:29 thats a downer. considering that my setup is not the best and that the evo is 200 bucks cheaper makes me lean towards the regular evo. Thanks for your great insights though.
The EVO is the best value for sure. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice thanks for your advice!
I have plenty of 45 and 33. It is more convenient to have a switch button. I do not like the manual belt change. are they both have an electronic change speed button?
They both have electronic speed change, thanks for watching
am i likely to notice an improvement from the debut pro to the x2b?
Reach out to our team of experts at audioadvice.com to find out more details about the differences. Thanks!
Unfortunately my first Project deck which looks great for the money spindle is too wide on the clear platter I had to use s file to chop it down. Is an an essential 3 A. I used be very experienced in the turntable business putting on Rega arms but i have a Brain illness HD so need help sometimes putting records on so didn’t realise quickly. I am going to write to the company
If also pulls the belt of as it is too close to the edge at 33. I live in the UK and money is always tight (3 kids that stream) it’s just my playing records. I maybe as for a free x 1 for comp or ask for money to buy local Rega stuff. Thanks for your honest reviews
Hope it works out. Thanks for watching!
The pro is priced the same as the
X1 that would to be a great comparison
A little puzzled as to why yours is not fitted with the Pick-it PRO cartridge, I thought that was specially designed for this table? Different markets perhaps?
Exactly, Sumiko is the US importer of Pro-Ject and makes their own cartridges- which are fantastic. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdviceTBH you are lucky in the US as sumikos are so much better-if i was i might have gone with a project to get the cartridge not buy a different brand and then fit the sumiko cartridge
Is the aluminium platter better than the acrylic platter that I have on my carbon debut esprit?
Only the one on the Debut Pro, yes. It is not sold as an aftermarket piece currently. Thanks for watching
Not bad, loads of competition at that price though. You can get a Technics 1200 if you save a bit more money and that will destroy it, in my opinion.
There is and if you have not heard these personally, they are outstanding turntables for their cost. The arm on the Pro is really good. Thanks for watching
Buenas tardes, me acabo de comprar un debut pro. me gustaría saber cual es el preamplificador phono que mejor le puede ir. muchas garcias
Cualquiera de la marca pro-ject funciona igualmente.
pero tus mejores opciones son el Phono Box S2, Tube Box S2 o el Cambridge Audio Alva solo ó Duo
One thing you didn't mention is that the feet on the plinth have been upgraded too.
Robert, we thought the exact same thing when we first put our hands on it, however when we asked Pro-Ject, they told us that while they look different with the silver band, they are exactly the same performance wise. Thanks for watching!
@@AudioAdvice Thanks for clarifying this.
@@bobby666666 Sure thing, now all we need is all of our orders on these to get here!
I just love the colour choices of the evo but prefer the pro specs. Difficult decision 😢
It is a tough choice. Great color options!
what better evo or pro, i understand english)
The Pro is the better turntable. Thanks for watching
Evo was already taken so I think the options were evo evo, evo pro or just pro and the 200 bucks extra.
Great now I need a new turntable
That was the idea :) Thanks for watching!
At the same price. This pro or the project x1?!
good question, the arm on the Pro is newer and better, but the x1 comes with the next step up in cartridges, if you are in the USA, both are great values thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice this is helpful
Get yourself a Technics sl-1500c sure the audiophile will tell you direct drive is inferior etc, curved tonearm whack. But I have tried all 3 through my Kef LS50W 2 and the Technics is just a better turntable, more robust, way more plug and play and removable headshell that takes pretty much anything (I use Goldring 1042) is just an absolute winner (the built in phono stage is even pretty damn good).
The SL1500 is a great table, but bear in mind it costs exactly twice as much as the EVO. It should be better
I have a "Pro-ject modded" Expression one which I hear no reason to change.
That’s a good one. We agree. Thanks for watching
Every day a new upgrade is coming.. looks as it we we are saving money for their upgrades..why they do not make one final product because when they were building Carbon evo they all knew that they have the ability to make pro..
I guess money is no issue for you.
I bought my first EVO I was disappointed with this turntable first I don't like the anti skate and how the platter turns on without even moving the tone arm very small counter weight
very lite unit bad hinges my Fluance RT 84 sounds so much better and cost less and a better stylus is on the Fluance.
With the price increases coming from Project this is now a 1k dollar table? Seems expensive for this line…
We think it’s a great value. Pro-Ject does have 10 models above the PRO going all the way to $15,499. Thanks for watching
Hi I m Tony . It sounds good about debut PRO and I cannot find in HONG KONG MARKETS
Sorry, we are only able to sell in the USA. Thanks for watching
I think this thing is a unicorn. Has anyone actually seen one in nature?
We received 20 of them mid December, but have yet to get any more and we have over 100 on order right now from Pro-Ject, hopefully we will get them in soon. Thanks for watching
78s? lol, nobody use that
I have owned many turntables the pro-ject debut carbon esprit is absolutely the worst turntable I have ever owned you would be better off with a p1
Jon, while we believe your experience, we wonder if there were some set up issues as most people, including us, really like the Esprit. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice so the anti skating weight is funky imho I have been playing records for fifty years and have owned many different turntables by vpi, thornes, rega, just to name a few and I never had the problems I guess my expectations were out of line 8.6 inch tonearm?
@@MrPompanoman Jon, it could be you have an issue we see every now on then with the arm. Start watching this video at about 6:19 ua-cam.com/video/XUm-QmCayVE/v-deo.html, same principal applies to the Esprit
If everything they say is true why isn't all those vinyl players at a Walmart?
Lol
Oh God. Another audio channel that doesn't do tests double blind where the newer or more expensive unit always wins by a gigantic margin.
your reviews are saying less and less about the product.It is all generalizations.
Who said this is a review?
Debut Carbon Evo is an embarrassing product, little more than a toy. Just a few months after the warranty expired, and used no more than 3 or 4 times a week, the motor started making a distinctly audible noise. This seems to be a common issue, as discussed on various forums. Pro-Ject is anything but pro.
Sorry you had trouble. Did you reach out to your dealer for help? They are usually good at customer service.
@@AudioAdvice What they told me is that I have to replace the motor at my own expense. Including shipping and repair costs, I need to spend around 200€. Never again with Pro-ject, never!
Ha ha, hilarious American naff marketing, it's the 1970s again!
Never knew Robin Hood was into records. Rad.