A solid video and a good debate topic! Warhammer lorediver here, so prepare for a text wall XD I'll agree with you that, out of any singular faction, the Tyranids are the most likely to win. The full scale of this cosmic superorganism is unverified, and their constant adaptations means even wars won against them are incredibly costly for the defenders. Imperium and Necrons are the only factions with enough sheer firepower to potentially exterminate them, but as you mentioned they're to too sluggish, cumbersome, and disunified to offer anything near the necessary force to turn the tide. One might argue that Chaos, particularly Chaos Daemons, have the advantage of providing no sustenance to a Tyranid due to a lack of biomass, but that's entirely a temporary state of things - The Doom of Malan'tai, a slightly ludicrous but canon Tyranid adaptation, was capable of eating souls, which are made of exactly the same psychic matter as daemons are, so Tyranids absolutely can evolve to start munching down Bloodthirsters like big angry Doritos. Furthermore, the Shadow in the Warp that the hivemind generates innately blots out the Chaos Gods, preventing them from influencing realspace. That said, I wouldn't assume Tyranid victory is entirely inevitable - Whilst incredibly adaptive, they have a severe weakness whenever opposing factions put aside their differences and team up. For instance, the T'au and Imperium have, on a few occasions, combined forces to halt a Hive Fleet, catching the Tyranids between the unflinching walls of grinding Astra Militarum warfare and the long-range devastation of T'au plasma weapons, the Tyranids unable to adapt to both simultaneously before they were destroyed wholesale. And whilst Tyranids are destructive, their hunger is for a good reason - Without biomass, they weaken and starve, every loss for them is a loss of biomass and potential growth. I think if certain factions could actually set their differences aside for a couple of decades (Imperium, Aeldari, T'au, perhaps even Necrons) the Hive Fleets could be routed entirely, either exterminated, or forced to find an easier meal in another galaxy. Of course, there's the catch - It won't happen. The galaxy is old, filled with grudges and hatred, a grim darkness in which there is only war, so unless there are some HUGE shifts in general diplomacy, yes, out of all the factions, Tyranids are the looming threat that'll pick through the stars and leave only barren rocks behind, erasing the vast history of the galaxy for a grim end that even the Chaos Gods couldn't match - All stories, heroes, plots and legends not only gone, but forgotten too. It's deliciously grimdark and I love it.
The problem with the Necrons is that they are still a dying race. They've simply managed to stretch the death of their race out over eons instead of years. Their resurrection protocols aren't perfect - mistakes creep in. Every millennia sees more of their elites slipping into madness and dementia. They have no way of reproducing, and their culture has stagnated. They might _outlast_ every other faction, but in the end they'll still lose to the laws of entropy and time.
It is theorized that the nids we are fighting currently is a mere scouting party. My 2 pence is if the entire Necron army. But one would need to destroy every life form to starve the nids. So I would love to see the Death Guard with all the gifts of the Nurgle fight the nids. Yes they are small portion but imagine the entire human race be part of the death guard with the demons of nurgle to fight the nids.
The Necron Celestial Orrery can Trigger Supernovae. And the Drukhari can steal entire Stars. So these factions can defeat the Tyranids since they can access weapons of a higher power level than anything the Tyranids can put forward.
I have to at least throw my 2 cents in for Necrons winning, at least when it comes to dealing with Tyranids. They are the kings at attrition warfare and are especially good against the Tyranids. Their Gauss weaponry atomizes it's targets, completely removing that biomass from existence, which is less biomass for the Tyranids to use. When Necrons are severely damaged they are teleported away to be repaired keeping their numbers high, if a Necron is actually destroyed then there is still no biomass for the Tyranids to consume. Canoptek Scarabs can break down any form of matter into energy and use that to build/repair whatever is needed by the Necrons, so that also keeps them going strong. The Necrons also still have the celestial orrery, so it is possible they could cause some stars to go super nova and probably wipe out large numbers of Tyranids. Also there's the possibility there could be some old Necron super weapons from back in the war in heaven that might still be lying around (less powerful than the ones the Silent King deemed necessary to destroy near the end of the war). At the very worst they could essentially have a draw with the Tyranids if they just go to sleep again and wait for them to finish eating everything and move on. They Tyranids would have consumed the galaxy and the Necrons could awaken to rule the galaxy again (a dead one mind you).
The imperium of man is going to win, the tyranids are an easy cop out.. the emperor is never going to allow the nids to win especially with primarchs returning...necrons are returning as well
A solid video and a good debate topic! Warhammer lorediver here, so prepare for a text wall XD
I'll agree with you that, out of any singular faction, the Tyranids are the most likely to win. The full scale of this cosmic superorganism is unverified, and their constant adaptations means even wars won against them are incredibly costly for the defenders. Imperium and Necrons are the only factions with enough sheer firepower to potentially exterminate them, but as you mentioned they're to too sluggish, cumbersome, and disunified to offer anything near the necessary force to turn the tide. One might argue that Chaos, particularly Chaos Daemons, have the advantage of providing no sustenance to a Tyranid due to a lack of biomass, but that's entirely a temporary state of things - The Doom of Malan'tai, a slightly ludicrous but canon Tyranid adaptation, was capable of eating souls, which are made of exactly the same psychic matter as daemons are, so Tyranids absolutely can evolve to start munching down Bloodthirsters like big angry Doritos. Furthermore, the Shadow in the Warp that the hivemind generates innately blots out the Chaos Gods, preventing them from influencing realspace.
That said, I wouldn't assume Tyranid victory is entirely inevitable - Whilst incredibly adaptive, they have a severe weakness whenever opposing factions put aside their differences and team up. For instance, the T'au and Imperium have, on a few occasions, combined forces to halt a Hive Fleet, catching the Tyranids between the unflinching walls of grinding Astra Militarum warfare and the long-range devastation of T'au plasma weapons, the Tyranids unable to adapt to both simultaneously before they were destroyed wholesale. And whilst Tyranids are destructive, their hunger is for a good reason - Without biomass, they weaken and starve, every loss for them is a loss of biomass and potential growth. I think if certain factions could actually set their differences aside for a couple of decades (Imperium, Aeldari, T'au, perhaps even Necrons) the Hive Fleets could be routed entirely, either exterminated, or forced to find an easier meal in another galaxy.
Of course, there's the catch - It won't happen. The galaxy is old, filled with grudges and hatred, a grim darkness in which there is only war, so unless there are some HUGE shifts in general diplomacy, yes, out of all the factions, Tyranids are the looming threat that'll pick through the stars and leave only barren rocks behind, erasing the vast history of the galaxy for a grim end that even the Chaos Gods couldn't match - All stories, heroes, plots and legends not only gone, but forgotten too. It's deliciously grimdark and I love it.
Great question and very interesting awesome vid ❤
Excellent work. The Tyranids are entropy.
The Necrons can ally with the Dark Eldar to inject some potent bio weapon into the mother ships of the tyranids or even the hive mind itself...
I think either Necrons as there is no Biomass to consume or the Chaos Daemons as they are beings of the warp
The problem with the Necrons is that they are still a dying race. They've simply managed to stretch the death of their race out over eons instead of years. Their resurrection protocols aren't perfect - mistakes creep in. Every millennia sees more of their elites slipping into madness and dementia. They have no way of reproducing, and their culture has stagnated. They might _outlast_ every other faction, but in the end they'll still lose to the laws of entropy and time.
It is theorized that the nids we are fighting currently is a mere scouting party. My 2 pence is if the entire Necron army. But one would need to destroy every life form to starve the nids. So I would love to see the Death Guard with all the gifts of the Nurgle fight the nids. Yes they are small portion but imagine the entire human race be part of the death guard with the demons of nurgle to fight the nids.
This is really fascinating, milady ❤ good job
The Necron Celestial Orrery can Trigger Supernovae. And the Drukhari can steal entire Stars. So these factions can defeat the Tyranids since they can access weapons of a higher power level than anything the Tyranids can put forward.
The Ultramarines!
I have to at least throw my 2 cents in for Necrons winning, at least when it comes to dealing with Tyranids. They are the kings at attrition warfare and are especially good against the Tyranids. Their Gauss weaponry atomizes it's targets, completely removing that biomass from existence, which is less biomass for the Tyranids to use. When Necrons are severely damaged they are teleported away to be repaired keeping their numbers high, if a Necron is actually destroyed then there is still no biomass for the Tyranids to consume. Canoptek Scarabs can break down any form of matter into energy and use that to build/repair whatever is needed by the Necrons, so that also keeps them going strong.
The Necrons also still have the celestial orrery, so it is possible they could cause some stars to go super nova and probably wipe out large numbers of Tyranids. Also there's the possibility there could be some old Necron super weapons from back in the war in heaven that might still be lying around (less powerful than the ones the Silent King deemed necessary to destroy near the end of the war).
At the very worst they could essentially have a draw with the Tyranids if they just go to sleep again and wait for them to finish eating everything and move on. They Tyranids would have consumed the galaxy and the Necrons could awaken to rule the galaxy again (a dead one mind you).
i hate Tyranids! But I like your video and your dog is a good pup! :)
If there are many more Tyranids in the intergalactic void, then yes they might win. Otherwise, the Tyranids might get beaten by the Necrons.
The imperium of man is going to win, the tyranids are an easy cop out.. the emperor is never going to allow the nids to win especially with primarchs returning...necrons are returning as well
Necrons, nids cannot eat crons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tyranids will win! purely based on the fact that they are just hungry boys 🤣