As an American it’s so unusual to see those crossings activating so early! In the States, the crossings usually activate 30 seconds before the train arrives.
I used to work as a railway signalman and one of my boxes controlled one of these manual or cctv crossings. I experienced day in day out crossing misuse as well as pedestrians leaping over the lowered barrier arm. It’s a sad case of people getting to know it’s a while before the train arrives and that they can still cross when I’m fact it’s not safe at all to do so. The klaxon alarm and barriers are there for good reason and whilst one side lowers and the far side barrier is still raised does not mean one can cross. It’s just a means of escaping the crossing for those already doing so whilst the crossing is activated. Likewise for road traffic, the barriers are not there for one to swerve around.
@@raviormetal1653 The only way to prevent misuse of a level crossing is to eliminate it. You can spend a billion pounds on crossing protection and idiots will still defeat it.
In the US, the vast majority of our grade crossings are completely automated, but now in most cases the track circuitry that senses the train can also calculate it's speed and time crossing activation to give a uniform warning time for the train to arrive regardless of whether it's traveling at 90 or 10 miles per hour. That way nobody's ever waiting an excessive amount of time for the train to arrive and getting as complacent. At a certain point though, the unfortunate reality is that no matter how hard you try to create the best safety system you can, you ultimately can't save people from themselves. We half-joke in engineering that every time you think you've user-proofed your system, the universe accepts your challenge and invents a better idiot to break it anyway. If they don't lose a race with the train, reckless always finds another way to win itself a Darwin Award sooner or later.
An unfortunate reality is the system used in the UK involves the barriers being down for an often inordinately long time before the train passes. The railway becomes more and more risk averse but fails to consider the human factor. If barriers never came down more than 30 seconds before a train passed the abuse of crossings would be far less. There's a (theoretically) greater chance of a vehicle or person being hit by a train, but in reality less people would take the risk.
This crossing is a " PAIN IN THE ARSE", it's in the middle of the high Street and sometimes you wait 10m + for the train,trains to travel past, the crowds of people who are kept waiting is absolutely ridiculous to say the least, on some occasions the barriers come down but no trains go past... I'm led to believe it's the only one of it's kind in the UK, where a train line goes through a city centre
First closing:It's a full minute between fully closed and a train passing. That's long. Here in The Netherlands, there's about 10 seconds between fully closed and a train crossing on most level crossings. The handful of people a year that try to sneak through don't survive, everyone else knows the barriers are up again within 30 to 40 seconds.
That's how it should be. A lot of people commenting here don't seem to realise it's those excessively long delays that are causing people to ignore the barriers more.
@@wood42shedWell in the UK, every crossing is monitored. A train isn't authorised to pass through until it's clear, that's why there's such a long delay, to allow for the train to come to a complete stop if it's not clear.
I'm very familiar with this crossing. It scares the hell out of me seeing stupid people running between the lowered barriers. They can't wait 2 minutes, or be bothered to use the stairs to cross over. I've seen the remains of a person who was hit by a train, it's not pretty!! DON'T CROSS UNDER OR OVER LOWERED BARRIERS!!!
Run rabbit run. How many of these "rabbits" would willingly cross illegally just to save 2 minutes but then see someone they know unexpectedly and then talk crap for 20 minutes? 95% i bet!
Plenty of comments on the foolishness; not enough comments on the adorable child filming the train. ☺️ (Yes, I know he’s not quite doing it right; I don’t care.)
hmmm..., red light and siren means pedestrians are still allowed to cross the railway? Even when the barriers close, people still enter the cordoned off area.
Good question! The simple answer is *NO!* The long answer is, if they want to get themselves kill and cause undue emotional stress for the train driver, also trains *CAN NOT* swerve to avoid humans and cars. Just think about Melbourne, they are still removing level crossing because of idiots disobeying the road rules, and they get hit by the train and *_blame the train driver,_* because they - _the motorist_ - *did not yield* to the red flashing lights and bells!
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Why is it most automated level crossings are very quick to open and close whilst Lincoln is infuriatingly slow, The people who closed the Avoiding Line have a lot to answer for, even worse they built houses on it instead of making it a road.
0:12 is a special case of someone misusing the crossing without a care. But I think the alarms (yes, even the new one) is a culprit. They seem to convey "hurry up," so I think it's almost instinct that some take that to mean "run, run!". Yes, that does mean I have a systemic complaint about yodalarms. My opening suggestion would be to use the Swiss e-bell tone.
I also find the "wig wag" lights very irritating. Maybe it reminds me of some person telling you off, wagging their finger at you. I'd rather they used conventional traffic lights.
No, the alarm and lights do not convey 'hurry up', they tell you to stop, stand still and wait behind the gates, until the train has passed. But hey, common sense is very uncommon, these days.. A few years ago a lady in my home city was urged by her boyfriend to cross the tracks as the signals and sound was starting, as he had crossed and didn't want to wait. She rushed across, her high heel shoe got stuck and she did not have time to free herself before the train came.. The boyfriend was charged with manslaughter. There is no valid reason to cross a railway line when signals and lights are on.
@@BasicModellingYou're missing a larger point, one that would probably allow us to understand misuse rather than just say "well, they're idiots" and pat ourselves on the back. Of course that's the law, and I would always wait or use the footbridge. But psychologically, wailing alarms at such a fast cadence like this get the adrenaline going, rather than putting many in a "stop and think" mindset. I think the tone of the alarms is a culprit. Your mileage may vary.
I think one reason that you get people running across is because you often have to wait for so long between the barriers coming down and the train crossing. Although in this case, the wait doesn't seem to be so long.
They're required to visually verify that the crossing is unobstructed before the train can be signalled across the crossing. In this case, since the train's coming from a station, that's not a big deal. But in an area where trains were doing, say, 70mph, the crossing has to close soon enough that the train could stop if somebody was trapped on it. That can be a couple of minutes.
@@beeble2003agree but there needs to be a different "trip" for the stopped train. It can be done, they had them in Melb 100 years ago where a stopping train would trip an alarm differently to the not stopping train.
Yeah it drives me nuts how long we’ve got to wait nowadays. Often about 3-4 minutes at the one near me 🙄 I understand the why, but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating.
This video brings back memories of my trainspotting days in the late 50's and early 60's on Lincoln Central Station and the good old days of steam, can't believe idiots not using the footbridge, mind you by the time the train came past you could have had a cuppa somewhere.
This is the Northern service to Leeds Via Sheffield, Calling at Saxilby, Gainsborough Lea Road, Retford, Worksop, Shireoaks, Kiveton Park, Kiveton Bridge, Darnall, Woodhouse, Sheffield, Meadowhall, Wakefield Kirkgate and Leeds. This train is formed of 2 coaches
I thought this was going to be one of those video monitored crossings where the train eventually comes through at 100+mph. But no - the people waited almost an entire minute before the train even started moving. No wonder people don't wait once the lights come on.
Well, not quite for this crossing type's case, they're meant to be checked clear before trains are allowed over them (hence the longer waits that many are complaining about).
And NR wonder why people play silly buggers with crossings. Crossing secure, platform starter to green, go. It's not rocket surgery. There are other crossings in the UK that close reasonable times before a train....somehow the really irritating ones are always on busy roads. The one at Chichester station seems to close when the train is 5 miles away.
Let's see. Replace by 6-foot high solid barriers that close all at the same time. And with all that audible and visual warning, if you get caught between them it's entirely on you. I have zero tolerance for idiots.
@Jack_Warner Then why does only one side (the vehicle side) of the gates come down first? Then the other side comes down. That tells me that cars are supposed to stop first when the left-hand gates come down, and pedestrians can cross until the right-hand side gate is down. It not, it's a terrible system and they should all come down simultaneously.
@@leafbelly because in case of a traffic jam you do not want to lock in the cars that (stupidly) came to a stop on the rails - by only closing half of the gate first, you enable them to still get off of the tracks.
Having red lights just past the crossing i think is the most stuiped thing i have seen weather road or pedstrian lights will some day catch someone out with thier car or lorry still partly on the rail crossing like we have seen on the internet in other countries
This is a CCTV crossing which is operated from west Holme signal box and they have to drop the barrier and make sure the crossing is clear and they have to lower it early incase they have to stop the barriers so it doesn't delay the train
I get that trains and signalling are complicated, that you usually need a light for entire segments, and everything. But to forbid crossing over 90s before the train even starts moving, and the barriers being down for over a minute feels a bit rude to people on the street. I wonder if there's better solutions. The 2nd time is also almost 2 minutes. Obviously safety should be the #1 consideration, but I do wonder if this is the best way to achieve it.
My guess is that train leaving the station doesn't trigger the relay for the gate, so they have to do it manually. And of course, it isn't the train driver who does this, so coordonating with station personel and train drivers can add delays. Seeing how the trains can accelerate though, I wonder if they shouldn't replace this by a short trigger section right at the terminal exit. So once the train leave the station the crossing relay triggers, and the train can slowly move toward the crossing until drivers can see it clearly, then they can accelerate.
Setting the route to clear the signal to allow the train to depart triggers the sequence. But the signal can't actually clear until the crossing is confirmed fully down and clear of obstructions
@@dasy2k1 And, in particular, that means that the barriers have to come down early enough that the train would have chance to stop if the crossing isn't confirmed clear.
Proof that it doesn't matter how many lights you install and how many bells, annoying yelps or sirens, the modern people underestimate the dangers and think they'd are above the dangers/issues of breaking the law and risking your life...
@@Dean256 Because it takes as long to cross as waiting for a train often and has loads of steps and the lifts are sketchy/dirty too. And if you decide to take the bridge sod's law kicks in and the gates open before you get to the other side.
The alarm is great but the time for the freaking train to actually arrive to the crossing will make people to respect it less. THe traindriver shouldnt be allowed to finish his freaking cup of tea before doing his job.
They drop well in advance, takes ages for them to re-open. You're very very unlikely to get hit by a train as they come out slowly from the station with good visbility. Don't really condone it but can see why people run for it though.
Because most people are able to cross crossings faster than 2 minutes and 12 seconds. Crossing alarms near train stations are like the boy who cried wolf.
This is a CCTV crossing which is operated from west Holme signal box and they have to drop the barrier and make sure the crossing is clear and they have to lower it early incase they have to stop the barriers so it doesn't delay the train
The wee guy filming the bogies. Brilliant.
Was worried he'd get a hand trapped in the barrier as it rose lol
As an American it’s so unusual to see those crossings activating so early! In the States, the crossings usually activate 30 seconds before the train arrives.
in my area in england, west london, the crossings are down for like 15 minutes
I used to work as a railway signalman and one of my boxes controlled one of these manual or cctv crossings. I experienced day in day out crossing misuse as well as pedestrians leaping over the lowered barrier arm. It’s a sad case of people getting to know it’s a while before the train arrives and that they can still cross when I’m fact it’s not safe at all to do so. The klaxon alarm and barriers are there for good reason and whilst one side lowers and the far side barrier is still raised does not mean one can cross. It’s just a means of escaping the crossing for those already doing so whilst the crossing is activated. Likewise for road traffic, the barriers are not there for one to swerve around.
Then maybe the design is faulty. Can we not prevent people behaving like that with a different, newer type of barrier?
@@raviormetal1653 The only way to prevent misuse of a level crossing is to eliminate it. You can spend a billion pounds on crossing protection and idiots will still defeat it.
Well ... 95% chance of saving one minute. 4% chance of spending some months in the hospital. 1% chance of going directly to the morgue.
In the US, the vast majority of our grade crossings are completely automated, but now in most cases the track circuitry that senses the train can also calculate it's speed and time crossing activation to give a uniform warning time for the train to arrive regardless of whether it's traveling at 90 or 10 miles per hour. That way nobody's ever waiting an excessive amount of time for the train to arrive and getting as complacent.
At a certain point though, the unfortunate reality is that no matter how hard you try to create the best safety system you can, you ultimately can't save people from themselves. We half-joke in engineering that every time you think you've user-proofed your system, the universe accepts your challenge and invents a better idiot to break it anyway. If they don't lose a race with the train, reckless always finds another way to win itself a Darwin Award sooner or later.
An unfortunate reality is the system used in the UK involves the barriers being down for an often inordinately long time before the train passes. The railway becomes more and more risk averse but fails to consider the human factor. If barriers never came down more than 30 seconds before a train passed the abuse of crossings would be far less. There's a (theoretically) greater chance of a vehicle or person being hit by a train, but in reality less people would take the risk.
Imagine living next to this. Unbelievable.
And theres a pedestrian bridge right next to it!
With lifts!
the lifts are very small.i dont understand why the bridge is so high.@@pmberry
@@johnhopkins5714 Future-proofed room for catenary wires if they ever electrify the line?
They only built that bloody bridge in my final year of university, going across the trainline is a nightmare
@@dbz9393 We have Railway Lines and Railway Stations in the UK.
This crossing is a " PAIN IN THE ARSE", it's in the middle of the high Street and sometimes you wait 10m + for the train,trains to travel past, the crowds of people who are kept waiting is absolutely ridiculous to say the least, on some occasions the barriers come down but no trains go past... I'm led to believe it's the only one of it's kind in the UK, where a train line goes through a city centre
Wow, some of those people at the beginning don't give a fk! Surprised someone didn't climb the gate!
@Faberoony90 has caught that a few times
didn’t there used to be a track that passed Lincoln to the south?
First closing:It's a full minute between fully closed and a train passing. That's long.
Here in The Netherlands, there's about 10 seconds between fully closed and a train crossing on most level crossings. The handful of people a year that try to sneak through don't survive, everyone else knows the barriers are up again within 30 to 40 seconds.
That's how it should be. A lot of people commenting here don't seem to realise it's those excessively long delays that are causing people to ignore the barriers more.
@@wood42shedWell in the UK, every crossing is monitored. A train isn't authorised to pass through until it's clear, that's why there's such a long delay, to allow for the train to come to a complete stop if it's not clear.
I'm very familiar with this crossing. It scares the hell out of me seeing stupid people running between the lowered barriers. They can't wait 2 minutes, or be bothered to use the stairs to cross over. I've seen the remains of a person who was hit by a train, it's not pretty!!
DON'T CROSS UNDER OR OVER LOWERED BARRIERS!!!
Run rabbit run. How many of these "rabbits" would willingly cross illegally just to save 2 minutes but then see someone they know unexpectedly and then talk crap for 20 minutes? 95% i bet!
See that footbridge at the side?I would use that rather than chance the level crossing going off while I'm trotting across it.
I was warned not to use the steps in the wet or ice
Isn't there stairs at this crossing, why would people stand and wait?
Seems the smell of urine offends them or drives them away.
Tried the stairs once. Took me longer than waiting. And don't start me on the lifts. Don't think they have been cleaned since they were put in
Plenty of comments on the foolishness; not enough comments on the adorable child filming the train. ☺️
(Yes, I know he’s not quite doing it right; I don’t care.)
hmmm..., red light and siren means pedestrians are still allowed to cross the railway?
Even when the barriers close, people still enter the cordoned off area.
Natural selection.
Good question! The simple answer is *NO!* The long answer is, if they want to get themselves kill and cause undue emotional stress for the train driver, also trains *CAN NOT* swerve to avoid humans and cars.
Just think about Melbourne, they are still removing level crossing because of idiots disobeying the road rules, and they get hit by the train and *_blame the train driver,_* because they - _the motorist_ - *did not yield* to the red flashing lights and bells!
A lot of changes over the years l remember the old wooden gates and the old foot bridge 😊
And the old wooden gates of st marks crossing,born in lincoln so remember it all.
I was in and out of that station so many times back in the day.
Great video! That moflash alarm is the loudest alarm on the crossing now i think.
Sad it doesn't have the right effect on people. They should not cross even if it was a red light.
AND extremely annoying!
The gates are fully down and the train still doesn't move for another minute. Get on with it!
Bro how did this get 50K views?!
I actually don't know 🤣
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Why is it most automated level crossings are very quick to open and close whilst Lincoln is infuriatingly slow, The people who closed the Avoiding Line have a lot to answer for, even worse they built houses on it instead of making it a road.
It's like a traffic light, when it turns yellow many drivers speed up rather than slowing down.
Many? Most!
Why are there so many people running under the bariers that are closing..
Because they need to get to WH Smith more than life itself
Because they have eyes and can see that there is no train coming. It was over a minute before the train came slowly through.
@@simontay4851 Doesn't make it right though.
WOW! Those are some SERIOUS crossing gates!!! They should consider something at least similar in the USA!
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A shame that St Marks was closed, that would have given added chaos.
0:12 is a special case of someone misusing the crossing without a care. But I think the alarms (yes, even the new one) is a culprit. They seem to convey "hurry up," so I think it's almost instinct that some take that to mean "run, run!". Yes, that does mean I have a systemic complaint about yodalarms. My opening suggestion would be to use the Swiss e-bell tone.
I also find the "wig wag" lights very irritating. Maybe it reminds me of some person telling you off, wagging their finger at you. I'd rather they used conventional traffic lights.
Perhabs they just can't hear it like they can't hear their empty batteries of the fire warners :D
No, the alarm and lights do not convey 'hurry up', they tell you to stop, stand still and wait behind the gates, until the train has passed. But hey, common sense is very uncommon, these days.. A few years ago a lady in my home city was urged by her boyfriend to cross the tracks as the signals and sound was starting, as he had crossed and didn't want to wait. She rushed across, her high heel shoe got stuck and she did not have time to free herself before the train came.. The boyfriend was charged with manslaughter. There is no valid reason to cross a railway line when signals and lights are on.
@@BasicModellingYou're missing a larger point, one that would probably allow us to understand misuse rather than just say "well, they're idiots" and pat ourselves on the back. Of course that's the law, and I would always wait or use the footbridge.
But psychologically, wailing alarms at such a fast cadence like this get the adrenaline going, rather than putting many in a "stop and think" mindset. I think the tone of the alarms is a culprit. Your mileage may vary.
@@crazyleyland5106 They are supposed to get your attention.. if they annoy you, they're doing their job..
I think one reason that you get people running across is because you often have to wait for so long between the barriers coming down and the train crossing. Although in this case, the wait doesn't seem to be so long.
Isn't there a bridge right there? You can see it at the start of the video. There usually is on busy pedestrian walkways like this.
@@JT29501correct. Network Rail put in a bridge, at great expense. Is it signposted enough?
They're required to visually verify that the crossing is unobstructed before the train can be signalled across the crossing. In this case, since the train's coming from a station, that's not a big deal. But in an area where trains were doing, say, 70mph, the crossing has to close soon enough that the train could stop if somebody was trapped on it. That can be a couple of minutes.
@@beeble2003agree but there needs to be a different "trip" for the stopped train. It can be done, they had them in Melb 100 years ago where a stopping train would trip an alarm differently to the not stopping train.
Yeah it drives me nuts how long we’ve got to wait nowadays. Often about 3-4 minutes at the one near me 🙄 I understand the why, but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating.
Why do people run across the level crossing despite all the flashing red lights and alarms? Are they totally daft?
Is the pedestrian bridge next to the crossing not in use any more? I haven't been to Lincoln for years.
It is... People are just stupid.
And it has lifts now
Every time I've been at that particular crossing in Lincoln, I've always had to wait for freight trains. You wait forever for those things!
Three hours? 😃
This video brings back memories of my trainspotting days in the late 50's and early 60's on Lincoln Central Station and the good old days of steam, can't believe idiots not using the footbridge, mind you by the time the train came past you could have had a cuppa somewhere.
I don't wanna live in the neighbourhood 😵💫
The idiots still crossing as the barriers come down as warning alarm is sounding!
"Better to be late in this Life" you all know the rest.
This is the Northern service to Leeds Via Sheffield, Calling at Saxilby, Gainsborough Lea Road, Retford, Worksop, Shireoaks, Kiveton Park, Kiveton Bridge, Darnall, Woodhouse, Sheffield, Meadowhall, Wakefield Kirkgate and Leeds. This train is formed of 2 coaches
Guess it isn't just America where they try to beat the train.
Once the lights change to red you don’t cross. Not surprised by how thick and stupid some people are.
Looks rather like Poole Dorset.
Oh no a train is coming. Quick let’s save a few minutes, by avoiding safety signals so I can’t get nowhere important! Stupid is as stupid does!
How come a northern train was on a Lincolnshire line
Sheffield to Lincoln service via Worksop and Gainsborough Lea Road
@@chriscarr3916 When the Pacers were still in service I thought it should be transferred to East Midlands Trains!
Is there a foot bridge like in Poole Dorset?
Too many accidents happen there 😢😢
Why no cars on this road??
Because it is a pedestrianised high street.
I thought this was going to be one of those video monitored crossings where the train eventually comes through at 100+mph. But no - the people waited almost an entire minute before the train even started moving. No wonder people don't wait once the lights come on.
better to make people wait than have someone stuck on the crossing, unable to jump the gates
So much inpatients these days
And they can't be bothered to use the bridge I don't get it
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...and this week's Darwin winner is...
As half the gates go down they still cross the line just there own fault if the are splattered across the front of a train
Well, not quite for this crossing type's case, they're meant to be checked clear before trains are allowed over them (hence the longer waits that many are complaining about).
Nice that you made it to Lincoln!
Thanks
Think British Transport Police need to visit this site and give some education around safe use of crossings.
Oh nice you went to Lincoln! Great Catches!
Thanks!
And NR wonder why people play silly buggers with crossings.
Crossing secure, platform starter to green, go.
It's not rocket surgery.
There are other crossings in the UK that close reasonable times before a train....somehow the really irritating ones are always on busy roads.
The one at Chichester station seems to close when the train is 5 miles away.
same in Poole Town High St. Though they did build a foot bridgr about 1958/60 nut its so steep next to noone wants to use it....
I wouldn't mind if their weren't a bloody bridge !
Nice to see an Azuma on a London service - even if it is running in diesel mode.
Let's see. Replace by 6-foot high solid barriers that close all at the same time. And with all that audible and visual warning, if you get caught between them it's entirely on you. I have zero tolerance for idiots.
If the barriers didn't close 15 mins before the train crawls past - at 2mph - then people wouldn't need to run across.
These trains have literally just left a station. Don't try and justify stupidity - a red light means STOP, and that's final.
Nice catches! Shame with the misuse though
people know there is still time, its that simple..
@Jack_Warner Then why does only one side (the vehicle side) of the gates come down first? Then the other side comes down. That tells me that cars are supposed to stop first when the left-hand gates come down, and pedestrians can cross until the right-hand side gate is down. It not, it's a terrible system and they should all come down simultaneously.
@@leafbelly because in case of a traffic jam you do not want to lock in the cars that (stupidly) came to a stop on the rails - by only closing half of the gate first, you enable them to still get off of the tracks.
@@leafbelly The entrance gates need to close _before_ the exit gates.
People are not taught self-control, respect, and thoughtfulness.
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Dang people might risk but they could put there life at danger
They come down far too early. In America they drop literally seconds before the train passes. If you're in the way, tough shit.
Have these muppets got a death wish?
Oh the horror, they barely missed death by a mere 2 minutes, that was close!
There wouldn't be much barrier misuse if a pair of mannequins in orange hi viz jackets were positioned inside that old signal box
Sounds like an air raid warning. Some people were running for their life.
That little guy taking a video got a model train for Christmas!
still running when noise and lever down ...unbelievable
1 year jail with them
Looks similar to the crossing in Paignton, Devon, and same plebs trying to get caught between the barriers, with steps to climb if not too lazy.
This is crazy wow
Why dont you just upload a 4tb hdd of some1s home cctv all 6 pips
Great video and crossing 👍
Having red lights just past the crossing i think is the most stuiped thing i have seen weather road or pedstrian lights will some day catch someone out with thier car or lorry still partly on the rail crossing like we have seen on the internet in other countries
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Excellent video
Brilliant video pal
Thanks
Why not wait until train is ready to go before closing gates
Exactly.. if the gates were down only for the bare minimum you wouldn't get people misusing they do it because they know theyre in for a long wait .
@@Mitch-HendrenBut there is a bridge right there, no need to wait, just use your legs!
They are ready to go but can't go till the Darwin award nominees are given time to clear the crossing.
They are the ones delaying themselves 😂
Because the train can't be "ready to go" until it has a proceed signal aspect. And the crossing has to be closed for the signal to clear.
This is a CCTV crossing which is operated from west Holme signal box and they have to drop the barrier and make sure the crossing is clear and they have to lower it early incase they have to stop the barriers so it doesn't delay the train
I get that trains and signalling are complicated, that you usually need a light for entire segments, and everything. But to forbid crossing over 90s before the train even starts moving, and the barriers being down for over a minute feels a bit rude to people on the street. I wonder if there's better solutions. The 2nd time is also almost 2 minutes.
Obviously safety should be the #1 consideration, but I do wonder if this is the best way to achieve it.
My guess is that train leaving the station doesn't trigger the relay for the gate, so they have to do it manually. And of course, it isn't the train driver who does this, so coordonating with station personel and train drivers can add delays.
Seeing how the trains can accelerate though, I wonder if they shouldn't replace this by a short trigger section right at the terminal exit. So once the train leave the station the crossing relay triggers, and the train can slowly move toward the crossing until drivers can see it clearly, then they can accelerate.
Setting the route to clear the signal to allow the train to depart triggers the sequence.
But the signal can't actually clear until the crossing is confirmed fully down and clear of obstructions
There's a footbridge...
There’s a footbridge you knob 🤣
@@dasy2k1 And, in particular, that means that the barriers have to come down early enough that the train would have chance to stop if the crossing isn't confirmed clear.
AIN'T NO WAY YOU'RE IN LINCOLN
Unless Fabe sent you this
No he was at Lincoln today
Nah, I went in the car earlier
They need Transport Police at the Crossing,they must be colour blind also Def,if they cannot see or hear.
They must be seeing flashing green lights and alarms saying GO 😂
Nice one. Great crossing
Proof that it doesn't matter how many lights you install and how many bells, annoying yelps or sirens, the modern people underestimate the dangers and think they'd are above the dangers/issues of breaking the law and risking your life...
Should have invested in a bridge rather than a ridiculous loud alarm.
They... have...
There is a bridge nobody uses it
@@Dean256 Because it takes as long to cross as waiting for a train often and has loads of steps and the lifts are sketchy/dirty too. And if you decide to take the bridge sod's law kicks in and the gates open before you get to the other side.
@Dean256 it doesn't exactly stand out to non locals. Just looks like part of building
Can you not see the massive Bridge right next to the crossing?
As an alumni of Lincoln, can't tell you how many times this crossing has made me rage until they built the bridge
This is why people get killed at crossings that the gates come down too long before the train comes. So they get annoyed and cross as the gates start.
Or could it be that people aren't taught patience and respect for the railway?
Where the alarm is more of a threat to life than the train it an announces. So many alternatives, so little thought.
Time between alarm and train is way to long. No wonder nobody listens and everybody crosses.
Exactly. I think there was a study about Rail crossing safety that said exactly this.
my ears
Nice
Why don't all the gates lower at the same time?
So people don't get trapped.
I will never understand the people that run (on) reds. Being a bad example for others is just sad.
The alarm is great but the time for the freaking train to actually arrive to the crossing will make people to respect it less.
THe traindriver shouldnt be allowed to finish his freaking cup of tea before doing his job.
Lemmings
People think they can out smart level crossing, one day maybe to late
ARE PEOPLE STUPID OR SUMMUT IN LINCON? WHEN BARRIERS ARE GOING DOWN THEY SHOULD STOP NOT KEEP WALKING ACROSS WHEN THE LIGHTS AND SIRENS ARE GOING
Because people are brain dead newer days
They drop well in advance, takes ages for them to re-open. You're very very unlikely to get hit by a train as they come out slowly from the station with good visbility. Don't really condone it but can see why people run for it though.
@@benbrist There is a footbridge right next to the level crossing.
@@Mgameing123I know but it's high up and takes about 2/3 minutes to cross lol
@@benbrist Understandable then.
Why would you jump a level crossing??? Madness
Because most people are able to cross crossings faster than 2 minutes and 12 seconds. Crossing alarms near train stations are like the boy who cried wolf.
They are probably after a Darwin award. It's not like they are going to lose a significant amount of time 😮
Why do people feel it is necessary to misuse the crossings?! If the red lights start flashing, it means stop and wait...
teapot
It would be somewhat understandable, if there weren't the footbridge right next to it...
And still they cross on red, absolute tools. 120 and 140 seconds it really is the end of the world.
No, personally I think it's a great way to stop and take a breather!
If you have to wait 120 seconds there’s clearly something wrong.
That alarm is going off far too early for a stopped train. Once people realise they'll ignore the alarm and gates. Boy who cried wolf etc
This is a CCTV crossing which is operated from west Holme signal box and they have to drop the barrier and make sure the crossing is clear and they have to lower it early incase they have to stop the barriers so it doesn't delay the train
They should replace the crossing with an under pass on make everyone use the bridge!
Easier said than done. And More expensive. Better to close the road totally.
What hurry are these people actually in? Everyone is looking around so restlessly as if a spaceship is passing by...
I’m leaving😡