Thanks for the shoutout for the translation (I'm /u/behindtimes). Well, perhaps maybe not! One of the complaints the original reviews stated was that this game doesn't tell you anything. And the case of the Kotl dungeon, that is the case. Not only that, but the original Japanese gave you wrong directions as well. While that part was corrected, the question becomes, how much do you change the translation to actually give useful information, such as the door. And as mentioned in the reddit post, one of the very first people tells you exactly where the Urali are, before you're supposed to know where they are. Yeah, the original game had quite a few bugs. It felt like a bad first generation SNES game, but it was released at the end of the Super Famicom's life. I could see why they just decided it wasn't worth bringing over.
1. I went and gave behindthetimes a thumbs up on his reddit post. 2. I swear I was hearing Spoony in your rant about the hidden walls. 3. SMS Ultima IV is actually good.
"...there are known janks; the jank we know. We also know there is unknown jank; that is to say jank that we have a guide for but don't know off the top of our head. But there is also unknownable jank-the jank we gamers don't know we don't know and so there is no guide for. And if one looks throughout the history of our games, it is the latter category that tends to fuel the rage bile..." -Ronald Dumsfeld.
I don't know what makes me feel older, recognizing this quote or watching 30 year old vidya videos. edit: oh god, I didn't even realize I could expand the comment to see you cited the source and I still knew it beforehand. 💀
That ending reminds me of the movie Bat Thumb. The big plan of the bad guy, No Face, was to use a formula that would erase Bat Thumb's face. And to quote No Face - "Without a face you'll go insane AND DIE! Oh ho ho ho!" As a fairweather Ultima fan I had no idea this game existed! Awesome review of it!
Thanks for tackling this, and doing it so quickly! It was really interesting to see about this "lost" Ultima game that I've been so curious about for so long. And thank you for the shout out from the reddit page! Fingers crossed for that cleanup video about the other console Ultimas! :)
I just wanted to say that I think your videos are very good. You go over what you liked and disliked in games, yet you also make a point to explain how the latter could be improved on and are just very articulate in general going over everything with how you played specific parts even. And the humor is an added plus. Xd
Another wicked video. Glad that translation came through for ya. I bet it feels good to close out that part of the chapter!! Keep killing it, man!! And thanks for the shout-out at the end. My kids and I watched it and gave me some cred to em 🔥
Wow, this was actually super interesting to watch. I previously played the PC version of this one, although I never finished it and just played a bit out of curiosity. I never realised the SNES port was based on the SNES U7 instead of U6. Great video, thank you for shining a light on this curiosity and seeing it through to the end.
I bet if this had an English release it would’ve been reskinned to be an Indiana Jones game. Reskinning games were more common in the 80s and 90s than people might think.
Thank you for covering this. I hope the toll on your sanity wasn't too high. If you ever get around to the other console games, just know that the Master System port of U4 is actually a REALLY good version of the game. It's a fully featured port of the computer versions (looks to be based on the MSX version which is kinda weird) that only changes two main things. First is that the dungeons are in an overhead perspective like the towns and overworld, and the second is since there's no keyboard support, dialogue is menu based with new topics getting added to the menu through conversation. It's probably my favorite version since it's essentially the same as the original but a little more approachable. It even has FM sound support despite never being released in Japan.
Savage Empire was one of the original RPG asset flips, reusing the same engine as a stopgap for the next numbered Ultima. And the tepid reaction to both the PC and SNES versions shows even back then most people were smart enough not to buy asset flips.
Hey, I just realized something just now. You did all the final fantasy games, all the dragon quest games, all the ultima ports on the nintendo systems, both the lufia games, but you have yet to tackle any of the romancing saga games yet. Where are those boys on the time table?
@@joshthefunkdoc completely understandable if he doesn't want to tackle the romancing games just yet. They're so different than every other SNES RPG and not the funnest ones to play at that if you don't know what you're doing. On Sword of Mana though, I figure Mana fans have kind of gotten used to criticism of the game by now. Don't think even the most diehard fans would say it's not perfect.
Another Great Video!!!! I've been waiting for the fan translation of Illusion City. The last update was beta testing was finished. So hopefully any day now!!!
great work man, this is top tier tv right here. thanks for showing us this... game. also, if you play any of the ultima console games, the SMS one is actually pretty competent and is a remake of the pc game and is somewhat better being as it has better graphics and easier to control. i remember the gameboy games being fun for like a car ride, i dont think i ever tried to finish them
The image of the Avatar using an npc human shield and whipping a giant to death is pretty funny. Probably didn’t do the Honour, Valor or Compassion scores any help….
LOL I had no idea this game even existed. Although for the record, if you can wrap your head around the insanely overcomplicated controls (that seemed to forget menus are a thing) the PSX version of Ultima Underworld is probably the better version of UU.
U6, Savage Empire and Martian Dreams are amazing on PC. One of the great gaming tragedies is that Ultima, one of the two most influential RPGs ever made, got such bad ports. The NES Exodus was super influential in Japan like the PC releases of U3 and U4 were, but the rest of these ports are trash. But hey -- No Ultima, No Dragon Quest.
Eh, I still like the NES ports of U3 and U4. I was one of those few kids who had DQ 3, FF and U4 growing up and helped turn me into the socially awkward weirdo that I am today. Actually, that was a bad thing.
Bad Ultima port developers they deprived us of enjoying Victorian era trips to Mars via cannon and exploration of our neighboring world on the SNES. (That's the plot of Martian Dreams)
Only youtuber I want to support through patron But not yet cuz I'm getting kicked in muh balls everyday in the stock market.. but one day.. I'll put a picture of you on my desk for motivation
First of all I enjoy your videos. Do you remember how in your overrated list you mention playing older games is intolerable today? I wonder if maybe this game could have been enjoyable 30 years ago.
OMG, making gunpowder is like baking bread!!!!1! Honestly the Ultima series was a little before my time, and my only point of reference for Ultima is pretentious nonsense and Garriott being an insufferable weirdo. This is probably the only Ultima related content I can stomach.
The perspective of these games is so disorienting to me. Like everything in the world is on this perfect grid but the people are at this strange 45 degree angle.
Thanks for the shoutout for the translation (I'm /u/behindtimes). Well, perhaps maybe not!
One of the complaints the original reviews stated was that this game doesn't tell you anything. And the case of the Kotl dungeon, that is the case. Not only that, but the original Japanese gave you wrong directions as well. While that part was corrected, the question becomes, how much do you change the translation to actually give useful information, such as the door. And as mentioned in the reddit post, one of the very first people tells you exactly where the Urali are, before you're supposed to know where they are.
Yeah, the original game had quite a few bugs. It felt like a bad first generation SNES game, but it was released at the end of the Super Famicom's life. I could see why they just decided it wasn't worth bringing over.
You're a legend man.
Talk about doing a thankless job. What unfettered altruism. Well done!
Thank you so much for your time and effort.
The "isometric, but rotated 45°" look of these games isn't easy on the eyes. But props to *behindtimes* for translating it.
Can you even call it a "fan translation" when no one is a fan?
Shots fired!
Pity Translation
There's always that ONE dungeon in these old RPG's that make you wanna light a house on fire 😮
I speak for a lot of your followers when I say we appreciate when you go the extra mile like this. Keep it up
1. I went and gave behindthetimes a thumbs up on his reddit post.
2. I swear I was hearing Spoony in your rant about the hidden walls.
3. SMS Ultima IV is actually good.
"...there are known janks; the jank we know. We also know there is unknown jank; that is to say jank that we have a guide for but don't know off the top of our head. But there is also unknownable jank-the jank we gamers don't know we don't know and so there is no guide for. And if one looks throughout the history of our games, it is the latter category that tends to fuel the rage bile..."
-Ronald Dumsfeld.
I don't know what makes me feel older, recognizing this quote or watching 30 year old vidya videos.
edit: oh god, I didn't even realize I could expand the comment to see you cited the source and I still knew it beforehand. 💀
@@evenoddprime Lol. It was a bit of a stretch, but I thought it was funny. Glad you enjoyed it? 🙂
i literally screamed when you walked through that fucking wall
My vice is that, seeing Jason endure himself with this makes me think, I too can breeze through these.
That ending reminds me of the movie Bat Thumb. The big plan of the bad guy, No Face, was to use a formula that would erase Bat Thumb's face. And to quote No Face - "Without a face you'll go insane AND DIE! Oh ho ho ho!"
As a fairweather Ultima fan I had no idea this game existed! Awesome review of it!
Thanks for tackling this, and doing it so quickly! It was really interesting to see about this "lost" Ultima game that I've been so curious about for so long. And thank you for the shout out from the reddit page! Fingers crossed for that cleanup video about the other console Ultimas! :)
I just wanted to say that I think your videos are very good. You go over what you liked and disliked in games, yet you also make a point to explain how the latter could be improved on and are just very articulate in general going over everything with how you played specific parts even. And the humor is an added plus. Xd
Another wicked video. Glad that translation came through for ya. I bet it feels good to close out that part of the chapter!! Keep killing it, man!! And thanks for the shout-out at the end. My kids and I watched it and gave me some cred to em 🔥
😂 may the almighty algorithm bless this video
Wow, this was actually super interesting to watch. I previously played the PC version of this one, although I never finished it and just played a bit out of curiosity. I never realised the SNES port was based on the SNES U7 instead of U6. Great video, thank you for shining a light on this curiosity and seeing it through to the end.
I bet if this had an English release it would’ve been reskinned to be an Indiana Jones game. Reskinning games were more common in the 80s and 90s than people might think.
Thank you for covering this. I hope the toll on your sanity wasn't too high. If you ever get around to the other console games, just know that the Master System port of U4 is actually a REALLY good version of the game. It's a fully featured port of the computer versions (looks to be based on the MSX version which is kinda weird) that only changes two main things. First is that the dungeons are in an overhead perspective like the towns and overworld, and the second is since there's no keyboard support, dialogue is menu based with new topics getting added to the menu through conversation. It's probably my favorite version since it's essentially the same as the original but a little more approachable. It even has FM sound support despite never being released in Japan.
I appreciate the unique moment you gave us by finishing this game for us! Thanks!
What a coincidence, GOG just gave away the PC version of this game for free recently.
I think it, Martian Dreams and Ultima 4 are just permanently free. Certainly worth checking out.
Savage Empire was one of the original RPG asset flips, reusing the same engine as a stopgap for the next numbered Ultima.
And the tepid reaction to both the PC and SNES versions shows even back then most people were smart enough not to buy asset flips.
That Cranberry apple sure does look refreshin
Been enjoying ur videos a lot! Hope you got Secret of Evermore to your list of SNES rpgs to "review" :D
Your review of Spellcraft is the reason I'm subscribed.
suPERfluous 🙂
Hey, I just realized something just now.
You did all the final fantasy games, all the dragon quest games, all the ultima ports on the nintendo systems, both the lufia games, but you have yet to tackle any of the romancing saga games yet.
Where are those boys on the time table?
We know it'll be sometime, just not sure if those games would be his style necessarily. Also notice how long he's been ducking Secret of Mana...
@@joshthefunkdoc completely understandable if he doesn't want to tackle the romancing games just yet. They're so different than every other SNES RPG and not the funnest ones to play at that if you don't know what you're doing.
On Sword of Mana though, I figure Mana fans have kind of gotten used to criticism of the game by now. Don't think even the most diehard fans would say it's not perfect.
I want to get into the Ultima Series, but I'll probably stick to the PC games. I'm not sure where to start, but I hear IV is good.
Another Great Video!!!! I've been waiting for the fan translation of Illusion City. The last update was beta testing was finished. So hopefully any day now!!!
Butterfly Theory: your Sears video series inadvertently created this translation.
Babe wake up Jason Graves video just dropped
*sigh*
Huh! I hadn't heard of this one. Thanks for the review!
I knew of this game and wondered how it played, glad to see someone else suffered for my own curiosity. Thank thee.
The Junts Cart T shirt goes hard
The hidden wall and switch back to back is their way of saying just go play something else 💀
19:55 bro those ants are hungry af
great work man, this is top tier tv right here. thanks for showing us this... game. also, if you play any of the ultima console games, the SMS one is actually pretty competent and is a remake of the pc game and is somewhat better being as it has better graphics and easier to control. i remember the gameboy games being fun for like a car ride, i dont think i ever tried to finish them
At this rate Jason is gonna do a deep dive on _It Came From The Desert_ on Genesis.
Proud to be the 787th English speaking person to witness this fantastic conclusion.
Great review
A new Ssseth video, then a new Casposaurus video THEN a new jason graves! What a week!
The image of the Avatar using an npc human shield and whipping a giant to death is pretty funny. Probably didn’t do the Honour, Valor or Compassion scores any help….
Well this is news. Okay, I'll try at least part of it. ⚔
I cannot wait for this guy to do Star Ocean
I appreciate your work, and a lot of other people who are tired of the wacky, cliché, BS UA-cam personalities do too!
LOVE YOU JASON GRAVES
That Whip seems to work well enuff tho.
This is awesome. I know this wasn't a well received game but, I have wanted to play this version.
man I love Ultima and I never even wanted to play the PC version of this
@@jhudsu1 lol! I get it. I loved the PC version of this though, and Martian Dreams.
Spoony approved review
16:40 I think that's a sabertooth... Panther? But I am pretty sure it's not a bear.
Thanks v.much dude!
Bring back the tier rankings!!!
O man, agree!!
Nice
LOL I had no idea this game even existed. Although for the record, if you can wrap your head around the insanely overcomplicated controls (that seemed to forget menus are a thing) the PSX version of Ultima Underworld is probably the better version of UU.
This us a 2024 miracle
pajama sam 3 reference??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
U6, Savage Empire and Martian Dreams are amazing on PC. One of the great gaming tragedies is that Ultima, one of the two most influential RPGs ever made, got such bad ports. The NES Exodus was super influential in Japan like the PC releases of U3 and U4 were, but the rest of these ports are trash. But hey -- No Ultima, No Dragon Quest.
Eh, I still like the NES ports of U3 and U4. I was one of those few kids who had DQ 3, FF and U4 growing up and helped turn me into the socially awkward weirdo that I am today.
Actually, that was a bad thing.
@@dugonman8360 I liked them too....in 1991. Today they don't hold up for me like Ultima IV on the C64 does.
Like and comment for seven ate nine. Keep up the good work.
Yooooo
Did the Snakes send you a pizza?
Bad Ultima port developers they deprived us of enjoying Victorian era trips to Mars via cannon and exploration of our neighboring world on the SNES. (That's the plot of Martian Dreams)
I hate how the whip has the impact star no matter if you hit something or not. I freekin' hate it when games do that.
I want this game to be untranslated
How does a whip... blow up a Generator??
"super flewis"
I'm guessing Jason has read a lot of good books but hasn't had a ton of chances to use the words. Still, the word was used correctly.
I'm the 1730th to see happy enough
Seems obvious why they used the U7 SNES engine... they had it, and it looked better than U6.
Only youtuber I want to support through patron
But not yet cuz I'm getting kicked in muh balls everyday in the stock market.. but one day.. I'll put a picture of you on my desk for motivation
First of all I enjoy your videos.
Do you remember how in your overrated list you mention playing older games is intolerable today? I wonder if maybe this game could have been enjoyable 30 years ago.
Got to love that white savior plot; great video, love your stuff.
OMG, making gunpowder is like baking bread!!!!1! Honestly the Ultima series was a little before my time, and my only point of reference for Ultima is pretentious nonsense and Garriott being an insufferable weirdo. This is probably the only Ultima related content I can stomach.
#444
The perspective of these games is so disorienting to me. Like everything in the world is on this perfect grid but the people are at this strange 45 degree angle.
The only thing better than the Rocket would've been the Kid Pix dynamite, but that's not SNES so I understand my opinion is TRASH
Wow, what a facinating peice of shit this game is. Fun video, Jason.
Lol, that's so Racist.
this review sucks, it's, "one guy tries to get as high as possible" the review.
If there's any single bio females in the comments section, please hit me up. I play video games and watch movies!
That Mario Paint transition tho
"Jason: Why wasn't 6 chosen instead of 7?
In my head: Because 7, 8, 9 heh
Jason: uhhh cause 7, 8, 9?"
This is why I'm here. 🤌
Jason Graves + Ultima = Jason Graves Ultima
Nice
17:26 FIVE OV UMS!