The only Sonic costume I believe is the best is the black one. The others feel generic tones of blue and purple with different shoes and... Whatever he has on his gloves (this last part was corrected, they are cuffs)
Sega requires that Sonic is ALWAYS represented in some shade of blue, no matter what. Even the "black" alt is just a really navy blue. It's a shame, but not really the fault of the devs, just what they had to work with.
We think the reason why characters like Sonic and Pac-Man get lame alt is because of the company who owns them. They probably don't want their mascots to change too much, to keep they recognizable. Especially Sega, who is known for being strict with Sonic at times.
Give Pac-Man different colored gloves/boots at least with different shades of yellow for the body. It would be hard to mistake him for anyone other than Pac-Man. Giving him the Sonic treatment would've been better than the dumb arm/leg bands. As a Pac-Man main, I think he has the worst alts in the game. Oven mitts alt is cute though at least.
@eon8271 But that's the difference, fan games don't represent the official product, so SEGA isn't picky on that. Just look at IDW Sonic comics that IS an Official product, while the stories are much better than some of the games before Frontiers, the writers are given strict guidelines which lead to some characterization remaining slandered such as Shadow.
@@braveneon8271 That’s not the same, though since Sega has a say in these things. With fan games, fans do whatever the fuck they want. Sega of Japan has been very strict about these said fan games that fans say are so untouchable by Sega
But at the time, KH would be less likely to happen. Even if Disney allowed it, Nomura might have been iffy on it. Plus it would have spoiled Sora’s future reveal (though potentially adding them after the reveal is fine, but the former statement is still an obstacle)
@@bobthelonghairedboi5425 I feel like that would’ve had to delete one of their costumes, which would’ve led to at least one person being annoyed. That person is not me, btw
Barely any of the Pokemon use their shiny colors. It doesn't make Lucario's situation any better, just stating he's not the only offender on that front.
Imagine the timeline where Sonic gets a yellow skin. Maybe Chris Chan wouldn’t have graped his mom cause he’d be so psyched to see Sonichu become canonical
Lmao I remember someone asking how flammable the Craft Yoshi alt is and one response was, "Flammable enough to burn him back to his Black alt". But other than that, Yarn Yoshi would've definitely been a better choice, it stands out more than the Craft one.
I think there's been some legal problems with who actually owns Mrs. Pacman. She's been getting cut out of lots of games recently like Pacman World Re-Pac.
@@tadeopena8009 nah the green brown actually looks sick the blue and pink not so much I would prefer the opposite Blue and red outfit but I respect your opinion
Shocked to not see Lucario here because NONE of his costumes are Pokemon references, they're all original, even his entry in the SSB Wiki is EMPTY. Also, they should've at least given Cloud his costumes from Dissidia NT and they should've given Sephiroth more noticeable colors to his coat to reference Genesis, Rufus and the like.
Honestly I'd say Pac-Man has it worse than Sonic. Sonic is at least different shades of blue with completely different shoe colors. They didn't even try with Pac-Man, and it negates the primary function of alts, to tell players playing as the same character apart, because they change so little on Pac-Man that you can barely tell them apart on a 1v1 match, let alone 4 player.
@@orangeslash1667 1. I think that's pretty stupid. 2. Even if Pac-Man HAD to stay yellow, they could've given each alt different hats and accessories that stand out more. Like obviously there's the hat he wears in Pac-Land, but they also could've done Super Pac-Man, the headphones he wears in the Pac & Pal art, the knight armor from Pac 'n Roll, the spacesuit he wears in Pac-Attack, alts based on Pac-Jr. and Professor Pac, etc.
@@jackiexkh But it would look jarring when Pac-man when he turns into his arcade sprite. To make you feel better I'll make up what the colors could be inspired by. Purple reminds me of Sue from Pac-man mania. Black could be a reference to Toc-Man.
@@orangeslash1667 Also I don't think it would look jarring, and besides, they could just let him keep the hat when he transforms. Also how would black reference Toc-Man???
@@jackiexkh That's not an option, you have to keep designs simple when doing advanced animation like transforming. Pac-man creator Toru Iwatani said that simplicity is what made the arcade so fun. While Iwatani wasn't involved in Smash, I suspect that Namco took his advice very seriously??? Forget what I said about Toc-man, I forget that his design was changed in the remake. I thought he stayed the same. The black alt reminds me of the Steel ball power up from Pac-man World.
Here is what the costumes suppose to reference. Purple is a reference to Nights. Cyan resembles classic, with the cuffs coming from Sonic Adventure. White is a reference to Silver, with the cuffs being a reference to the ark of the Cosmos from Sonic Free Riders. Yellow has Silver's yellow cuffs. Orange is a reference to the hand from Sonic 2. Green is a reference to the hand in the Knuckles edition of Sonic 2. Black is a reference to the Mirror fighter in Sonic the fighters.
@orangeslash1667 Cyan is the Crystal Ring, Sonic's upgrade from Sonic Adventure 1, and the Ark of the Cosmo's is from Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Not Free Riders.
Sure the ff7 characters didn’t change in terms if color but they gave cloud his movie costume packed with references such as the bow aireth gave cloud before she died its rapped around his arm in one of the AC costumes and shirtless sephiroth is a reference to the final battle in ff7
Here’s an idea, every single character in smash bros gets a shirtless alt, even the women, and every character that doesn’t have a shirt, like donkey kong, duck hunt, every pokemon, and possibly mega man, they get a shirt alt
also no Ganondorf? in Ultimate is a tad better because the OoT design allows for more colors, but his Twilight Princess version had almost no variety other than the face that you can barely see
It’s like giving Mario a second Red Costume with a swapped color overall and Shirt, but even that’s a bad comparison, cause at least that references something, PAC-MAN with Yellow Sleeves makes no sense.
Honestly, not even an Echo Fighter! Shadow *easily* could've had his own Moveset! Neutral Special - Chaos Spear(Chargeable) Up Special/Recovery - Chaos Control Down Special - Chaos Dash(Chargeable) (Chaos Powered Spin Dash) Side Special - Light Speed Attack Final Smash - Chaos Blast
@@spartandelta124 Chun-Li also would've been a better choice than Ken in my opinion since she'd *also* have her own Moveset instead of being an Echo Fighter. Plus, she's also considered a Mascot Character alongside Ryu & Ken in _Street Fighter._ Heck, most consider her and Ryu the main two Mascots! Also, her inclusion would've added another Female Fighter too. 🙂 Her Moveset could be: Neutral Special - Kikoken Up Special/Recovery - Tensho Kick Down Special - Spinning Bird Kick Side Special - Lightning Kick Final Smash 1 - Senretsu Kyaku Final Smash 2 - Kikosho
@@darkdremora4436 Shadow could be a tricky character to add without making him overpowered?? Remember the reason Sonic has a simple moveset, is to balance out the fact that he's the fastest character.
@@spartandelta124 Most of the Sword fighters are RPG characters. While RPG struggle to sell Well in the west, Japan loves RPG's. Since Nintendo is a Japanese company, it makes sense to take advantage of it.
sonic's transformations being unique and interesting skin references: what they decided to base his alts off of: i mean... there's the purple chaos emerald... and uhhh... silver's gloves...? very iconic
@nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Sega literally has seen the detrimental Sonadow on DeviantArt, and also, if you try to put "DeviantArt" as your name in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, it will get rejected and the character you play as will say "I don't think I could show my face around here again if I wrote that"
At least Lucario has a few that are good. Kinda wish one of them would get replaced with the Red Lucario from Pokken or the Shiny Lucario. You know what would be cool. If Little Mac...err I mean Wire Frame Mac had the color pink around his body. A reference to the Fighting Wire Frames from Smash Bros Melee.
I heard that the final fantasy characters and some other IP's they weren't allowed to stray too far from the original character design so they had to use muted colors and clothes that makes sense in world
That's odd because you have games like Dissidia NT which does have more unique alternate colors despite it being made by another company. It's also odd because in Cloud's case he could've had SOLDIER colors since he is wearing a SOLDIER outfit, so it wouldn't be that far off from the original.
@@DarkOverlord96 Sephiroth does have some references. White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra. Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7. Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo. Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier. Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
What I hate the most is a max of 8 colors so they have to replace some, they did that in smash 4 but still there were characters with alt costumes like wario and little mac that had more, but with smash ultimate they also deleted those and next games are supposed to give more content instead of removing it
Would you rather have 60 fighters and over 100 stages. Or let a fighter keep an old costume you and no one you know has ever actually selected in a real match
@@astra3766 it would have. Storage space, possible licensing fees, and needing to port them over and clean them up and check them. There's a lot of work. Even if it's the same engine, refining the code, increasing the speed, and tweaking models does add up when you have that many characters.
Ngl and I know this is an unpopular opinion, I KINDA disagree with some of the alt criticisms. I get it but to me, Sonic IS the Blue Blur despite missed opportunites for character references so different colors feels kinda unneeded as well as Cloud and Sephiroth being colorful despite their original game doesn't really look right but it's all opinion. Idk I'm one of those people who appreciates the smaller details and everything else as well as respect the mindset Sakurai was going for though Crafty Yoshi is the worst of them all.
@@sometf2player752 Probably. Might be a challenge to go that extra mile but it's highly appreciated especially if they could pull off some deep cuts like the SOAP shoes. Or just give him other people's shoes as well.
@@sometf2player752 YES! Finally someone else thinks so! Here are my ideas: SA2 Shoes (if those aren't enough then the rest of his upgrades from SA2) SA1 upgrades (Including potentially his sunglasses from his ending render from SA1) 06 Upgrades with Green Gem Shoes (Meant to fulfill the green alt) Riders Outfit (My personal favorite look for Sonic) No Place Shoes and Gloves (From Sonic Prime, meant to fulfill the yellow/black alt) Favorite Clothes (From the OVA, meant to fulfill the pink/purple alt) Fake Metal (From Sonic Heroes, nothing too special, just a fun alt, would also change sound effects and remove voicelines)
@@DarkOverlord96I kinda wish you could choose the Luma color at the start of the match tho so everyone could have their favorite color Luma on throughout the whole match.
@@jackflynn412 doesn't really work, unless you're good at keeping your Luma safe, it's gonna die within less a minute and respawn in a random colour not too long after.
@@DarkOverlord96 I still think my point applies. Why does Sora have some pretty good alternate costumes, but Sephiroth and Cloud have very dark versions of colors?
@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Well, again, I imagine Disney wasn't as stingy with Sora, especially since him having all his costumes from all those games is easy advertisement, but also because he was the last DLC fighter so they wanted to make sure he got the best deal out of all of them.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Sephiroth does have some references. White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra. Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7. Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo. Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier. Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
The black sonic skin reminds me of Dark Sonic from Sonic X, before he turned into Dark Super Sonic. That small hint of dark aura surrounding him as he turns back with a smirk, iconic
Its so sad that pacman doesnt get different color variations. Especially when pacman battle royale exists where he has a red, pink and blue alt in that alone. I could make a whole fresh set of 8 alts with references to pacman and itll be better than what we got.
What's really strange is actually back in brawl Sonic's green shoes actually came with his fur being a shade of green as well and now it's just blue with green shoes
FUN FACT! in one of first ever smash bros games, Sonic ACTUALLY had pallettes of his friends, infact, he had a Shadow skin that unlike others changed his shoe texture, while others were just changing shoe and furry collour.
I feel like they could’ve done Sonic with the soap shoes, darker fur and more yellowish skin, to match his SA2 color palette, along with Riders Sonic and Racesuit Sonic from SA2 and Sonic’s pre-dark transformation with Dark Sonic as his Final Smash
The Pokémon not having their shinies is a crime
It’s not a crime, it’s just stupid and nonsense. I mean it like a huge missed opportunity without any plausible reason
Only ones that have their shiny is mewtwo,squirtle and ivysuar I believe
True
Incineroar has one that looks similar to his shiny iirc
@WilburDoesStuff Not even. None of them do!
Sonic the Hedgehog 50 shades of blue
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s6x?
@@suckerhatbruh
@@bloonyTheOriginal no don't get the wrong idea, i was joking about 50 shades of grey being about 6
@@suckerhat yes but Why Say It like S6X just spin the 6 around and it looks like an E
The only Sonic costume I believe is the best is the black one. The others feel generic tones of blue and purple with different shoes and... Whatever he has on his gloves (this last part was corrected, they are cuffs)
Cuffs
True I use that skin alot
I also use the black one
The blue alt is the only one that has anything interesting going for it, and that's ONLY because the Cuffs are the crystal rings from Sonic Adventure.
@@Clay-Chap-Stuff My personal favourite aside from the black one is the first purple one (purple cuffs)
Sega requires that Sonic is ALWAYS represented in some shade of blue, no matter what. Even the "black" alt is just a really navy blue. It's a shame, but not really the fault of the devs, just what they had to work with.
Source?
In Brawl's beta he actually had different colors
Say that to the virtual Sonics in Colours' 2-player mode!
@@themightygallium9509Yeah I always assumed that Sonic was only in shades of blue because of fears that people with various OCs would sue Sega.
@@1Hol1Tiger I mean, at the very least they could give him a purple skin that references his Darkspine form...
We think the reason why characters like Sonic and Pac-Man get lame alt is because of the company who owns them.
They probably don't want their mascots to change too much, to keep they recognizable. Especially Sega, who is known for being strict with Sonic at times.
Say that to sonic fan games
Give Pac-Man different colored gloves/boots at least with different shades of yellow for the body. It would be hard to mistake him for anyone other than Pac-Man. Giving him the Sonic treatment would've been better than the dumb arm/leg bands.
As a Pac-Man main, I think he has the worst alts in the game. Oven mitts alt is cute though at least.
@eon8271 But that's the difference, fan games don't represent the official product, so SEGA isn't picky on that. Just look at IDW Sonic comics that IS an Official product, while the stories are much better than some of the games before Frontiers, the writers are given strict guidelines which lead to some characterization remaining slandered such as Shadow.
Sonic can keep his black and silver colors, but his other colors need to go and reference his friends
@@braveneon8271 That’s not the same, though since Sega has a say in these things. With fan games, fans do whatever the fuck they want. Sega of Japan has been very strict about these said fan games that fans say are so untouchable by Sega
Donkey Kong’s white alt not having a blue tie is criminal
This!!
True. And why don't we get a Funky Kong alt? He deserves to be in more games than Mario Kart wii and 8DX, since he's a fan favorite.
@@valeriebreidenstein8362 He was playable in Tropical Freeze on Switch.
Still think cloud and sephi shouldve gotten their kingdom hearts outfits
Thank god we have gamebanana for that
@@KAIsibs true, i still have to mod my switch at some point
But at the time, KH would be less likely to happen. Even if Disney allowed it, Nomura might have been iffy on it. Plus it would have spoiled Sora’s future reveal (though potentially adding them after the reveal is fine, but the former statement is still an obstacle)
@LingeringWont thats what i meant sora should've given cloud and sephi their kh outfits i wouldnt want to spoil the greatest smash reveal of all time
@@bobthelonghairedboi5425 I feel like that would’ve had to delete one of their costumes, which would’ve led to at least one person being annoyed.
That person is not me, btw
Lucario deserves to be here, he's the only character to not have any kind of reference, not even his shiny form.
I honestly don't know why, like... they couldn't even give him colors referencing other Fighting Type Pokemons?
Barely any of the Pokemon use their shiny colors.
It doesn't make Lucario's situation any better, just stating he's not the only offender on that front.
I feel like lucario should have a red alt to reference scizor since there both steel type pokemon
@@thevalkyriemercenary9463Or Machamp, Blaziken, Falinks, literally ANY Fighting and/or Steel type
Isn’t there a yellow lucario alt?
They made all of Sonic's alts blue so nobody would think their OC was in the game 😅
Sounds reasonable lol
Ken Penders...
Sonic ocs are goofy asf anyways let the blue man get his colors going
Imagine the timeline where Sonic gets a yellow skin. Maybe Chris Chan wouldn’t have graped his mom cause he’d be so psyched to see Sonichu become canonical
Then again we have the colors simulator with all the different sonic colors
PAC-MAN in Smash: 🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡
PAC-MAN in NBA Merch: 🟡🔴🔵🟢🟠⚪⚫🟣
??? (Yes, the latter is a real thing)
I can just imagine pacman ballin
@fearward11 that thought will never leave my head now
Of course they're going to give more if it's paid
@@fearward11 there are quite a few official arts of him balling
Real shame they won't allow Pac Man to be multi colored
Rosalina over lucario is kinda crazy
Yeah, Lucario has really lazy costumes
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 "costumes" it's just basic recolors that don't even reference his shiny form
@@crybabybf1990 They could've referenced other fighting-types or even his shiny and double down on the Riolu palette, but nah.
@@crybabybf1990shiny is absent probably due to licensing
Deeper blue one is neat..-
I think the worst costume in the game by far has to go to Craft Yoshi, I would of prefered if they did Yarn Yoshi or brought back Black Yoshi instead
Worse? They literally could stop doing the 8 customes per fighter bs and that could include Black and Yarn Yoshi
@@rmissing3361yeah in Sm4sh Little Mac had 16 costumes. I hope they do something like that for the next Smash game on at least one character.
For Real, i love yoshi wooly wordl
Lmao I remember someone asking how flammable the Craft Yoshi alt is and one response was, "Flammable enough to burn him back to his Black alt". But other than that, Yarn Yoshi would've definitely been a better choice, it stands out more than the Craft one.
@@jackflynn41216?how?
Ms. Pac-Man could have easily been implemented as some of Pac-Man's alternate costumes, similar to how Alph is some of Olimar's alts.
I think there's been some legal problems with who actually owns Mrs. Pacman. She's been getting cut out of lots of games recently like Pacman World Re-Pac.
We could’ve had a couple Mrs. Game & Watch skins for Mr. Game & Watch.
Well, you can blame the guys who make those terrible plug and play consoles for that.
No, because she isn’t owned by Namco
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios No?? Because that is literally not a thing
"Sonic's costumes are just different shades of blue!"
*Proceeds so show a black sonic, not a blue one*
shadow the edgehog is NOT black sonic
That's navy blue
Black is a really really shaded blue tbf
When you realize they removed Fire Mario but kept that ugly green Mario skin in Smash Ultimate. 😢
Hey that green outfit is cool they should've removed the Blue and pink
@@kataveonevans6224nah green with ground is worst then the blue and pink one
@@tadeopena8009 nah the green brown actually looks sick the blue and pink not so much I would prefer the opposite Blue and red outfit but I respect your opinion
Just remove all of them at that point.
They could replace the Waluigi one, Mario is not related in any way with him
why does Dark blue Sonic look like 2017x😭😭
Cold... so cold truth be told..
Shocked to not see Lucario here because NONE of his costumes are Pokemon references, they're all original, even his entry in the SSB Wiki is EMPTY.
Also, they should've at least given Cloud his costumes from Dissidia NT and they should've given Sephiroth more noticeable colors to his coat to reference Genesis, Rufus and the like.
Not exactly because he does at least have 1 Pokemon reference it its pre-evolution
@@courage1363 5 Pokémon references, actually - Mars of Team Galactic, Jupiter of Team Galactic, the Galactic Grunts, Anime Lucario, and Riolu.
Honestly I'd say Pac-Man has it worse than Sonic. Sonic is at least different shades of blue with completely different shoe colors. They didn't even try with Pac-Man, and it negates the primary function of alts, to tell players playing as the same character apart, because they change so little on Pac-Man that you can barely tell them apart on a 1v1 match, let alone 4 player.
It's because the ghosts are Pac-man's Smash attacks with different colors. Namco probably didn't want Pac-man to be the same color as the ghosts???
@@orangeslash1667 1. I think that's pretty stupid.
2. Even if Pac-Man HAD to stay yellow, they could've given each alt different hats and accessories that stand out more. Like obviously there's the hat he wears in Pac-Land, but they also could've done Super Pac-Man, the headphones he wears in the Pac & Pal art, the knight armor from Pac 'n Roll, the spacesuit he wears in Pac-Attack, alts based on Pac-Jr. and Professor Pac, etc.
@@jackiexkh But it would look jarring when Pac-man when he turns into his arcade sprite.
To make you feel better I'll make up what the colors could be inspired by.
Purple reminds me of Sue from Pac-man mania.
Black could be a reference to Toc-Man.
@@orangeslash1667 Also I don't think it would look jarring, and besides, they could just let him keep the hat when he transforms.
Also how would black reference Toc-Man???
@@jackiexkh That's not an option, you have to keep designs simple when doing advanced animation like transforming. Pac-man creator Toru Iwatani said that simplicity is what made the arcade so fun. While Iwatani wasn't involved in Smash, I suspect that Namco took his advice very seriously???
Forget what I said about Toc-man, I forget that his design was changed in the remake. I thought he stayed the same.
The black alt reminds me of the Steel ball power up from Pac-man World.
Sonic has to be the most underutilized character in Smash
Here is what the costumes suppose to reference.
Purple is a reference to Nights.
Cyan resembles classic, with the cuffs coming from Sonic Adventure.
White is a reference to Silver, with the cuffs being a reference to the ark of the Cosmos from Sonic Free Riders.
Yellow has Silver's yellow cuffs.
Orange is a reference to the hand from Sonic 2.
Green is a reference to the hand in the Knuckles edition of Sonic 2.
Black is a reference to the Mirror fighter in Sonic the fighters.
sega requires that sonic must always be depicted as at least a little blue
Bro got a little too much action being a saving grace in Subspace 💀
@orangeslash1667 Cyan is the Crystal Ring, Sonic's upgrade from Sonic Adventure 1, and the Ark of the Cosmo's is from Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Not Free Riders.
@@kingmo8789 I forgot that only one game, had (Free) in the title.
Sure the ff7 characters didn’t change in terms if color but they gave cloud his movie costume packed with references such as the bow aireth gave cloud before she died its rapped around his arm in one of the AC costumes and shirtless sephiroth is a reference to the final battle in ff7
Isn’t cloud final smash different or is it just me
@@Just.a.watcher..It is.
My problem is Square being hellbent on still referencing the shitshow that is Advent Children. They cant seem to let it go
Advent children IS good wtf are you yapping about and the costume are perfect @@CitrusRev
She gave him a bow before she died? Was that in Advent Children?
Here’s an idea, every single character in smash bros gets a shirtless alt, even the women, and every character that doesn’t have a shirt, like donkey kong, duck hunt, every pokemon, and possibly mega man, they get a shirt alt
The women get a bikini alt or something
Mega Man's shirtless alt is just exposed circuitry
@@Tr0lliPopnope not enough shirtless alt
Nah. If I could watch a sweaty shirtless fight between Mario and Luigi, I'd be too horny the whole match to concentrate.
Shirtless Rob
also no Ganondorf? in Ultimate is a tad better because the OoT design allows for more colors, but his Twilight Princess version had almost no variety other than the face that you can barely see
They put yellow on pack man, bruh 💀
It’s like giving Mario a second Red Costume with a swapped color overall and Shirt, but even that’s a bad comparison, cause at least that references something, PAC-MAN with Yellow Sleeves makes no sense.
bro really said "say, would you like to p l a y" with that 3rd sonic the hedgehog costume
With Sora's arrival there could be an update that changed 1 or 2 of Cloud and Sephiroth costumes for your costumes from KH1
Idk if Nomura would allow it, considering they needed to request him for Sora to be in (cause Disney was fully on board with Sora)
It's funny, this is the first time I've seen Sonic in anyone's worst something list
All Of The Shoe Colors Are A Reference To Some Of Sonic's Friends
Shadow the Hedgehog should have been an echo fighter for Sonic
Honestly, not even an Echo Fighter! Shadow *easily* could've had his own Moveset!
Neutral Special - Chaos Spear(Chargeable)
Up Special/Recovery - Chaos Control
Down Special - Chaos Dash(Chargeable)
(Chaos Powered Spin Dash)
Side Special - Light Speed Attack
Final Smash - Chaos Blast
@@darkdremora4436 But alas, they were to busy adding sword fighters
@@spartandelta124 Chun-Li also would've been a better choice than Ken in my opinion since she'd *also* have her own Moveset instead of being an Echo Fighter.
Plus, she's also considered a Mascot Character alongside Ryu & Ken in _Street Fighter._ Heck, most consider her and Ryu the main two Mascots! Also, her inclusion would've added another Female Fighter too. 🙂
Her Moveset could be:
Neutral Special - Kikoken
Up Special/Recovery - Tensho Kick
Down Special - Spinning Bird Kick
Side Special - Lightning Kick
Final Smash 1 - Senretsu Kyaku
Final Smash 2 - Kikosho
@@darkdremora4436 Shadow could be a tricky character to add without making him overpowered?? Remember the reason Sonic has a simple moveset, is to balance out the fact that he's the fastest character.
@@spartandelta124 Most of the Sword fighters are RPG characters. While RPG struggle to sell Well in the west, Japan loves RPG's. Since Nintendo is a Japanese company, it makes sense to take advantage of it.
Sonic: Clearly has a black, a gray and a grayish purple alt
Smash community: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
At least Pac-Man's costumes in alt had some nods to power-ups from his games. He somehow got worse in Ultimate.
Dark sonic is legit af. If they made a yellow sonic it'd just be super sonic
Fun fact: the blue rings on sonics alt is a reference to where sonic got locked in Eggmans death egg in Sonic Forces
sonic's transformations being unique and interesting skin references:
what they decided to base his alts off of:
i mean... there's the purple chaos emerald... and uhhh... silver's gloves...?
very iconic
I think the reason why Sonic's fur color barely changes is likely due to copyright problems with Sega.
Or possibly DeviantArt
@@vexslade I doubt DeviantArt has something to do with it.
@@nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Idk about that...
@@vexslade 🤨
@nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Sega literally has seen the detrimental Sonadow on DeviantArt, and also, if you try to put "DeviantArt" as your name in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, it will get rejected and the character you play as will say "I don't think I could show my face around here again if I wrote that"
At least Lucario has a few that are good. Kinda wish one of them would get replaced with the Red Lucario from Pokken or the Shiny Lucario. You know what would be cool. If Little Mac...err I mean Wire Frame Mac had the color pink around his body. A reference to the Fighting Wire Frames from Smash Bros Melee.
Red Lucario from Pokken sounds dope ngl, shiny is absent probably due to licensing
I’m just glad that Sephiroth and Cloud have an alt style
I remember when you made a video like this way back in October 2018, and I was very addicted to that video in a super-fun entertained way, lol.
I heard that the final fantasy characters and some other IP's they weren't allowed to stray too far from the original character design so they had to use muted colors and clothes that makes sense in world
That's odd because you have games like Dissidia NT which does have more unique alternate colors despite it being made by another company.
It's also odd because in Cloud's case he could've had SOLDIER colors since he is wearing a SOLDIER outfit, so it wouldn't be that far off from the original.
@@DarkOverlord96 Sephiroth does have some references.
White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra.
Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7.
Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo.
Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier.
Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
Cloud should've at least had some colors based on the other characters you have in the party.
It would've been really cool if they gave Cloud his Kingdom Hearts 1 outfit with the Vincent Valentine Scarf.
Dark grey sonic predicted Lord X.
What I hate the most is a max of 8 colors so they have to replace some, they did that in smash 4 but still there were characters with alt costumes like wario and little mac that had more, but with smash ultimate they also deleted those and next games are supposed to give more content instead of removing it
Would you rather have 60 fighters and over 100 stages. Or let a fighter keep an old costume you and no one you know has ever actually selected in a real match
?🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@velvetbutterfly
Are you actually trying to say that keeping 16 or so pre-existing alts would have affected the amount of characters or stages
@@astra3766 it would have. Storage space, possible licensing fees, and needing to port them over and clean them up and check them. There's a lot of work. Even if it's the same engine, refining the code, increasing the speed, and tweaking models does add up when you have that many characters.
Teal Game and Watch alongside Pink R.O.B were my faves as a kid.
Cloud and Seph’s are at least all references
First Off: Sonics Costumes are refrences. Second Off: Maybe look it up
There referenced but that still doesn’t change the fact that there was no effort made with the costumes
Evil Aaron be like
Shirtless Sepheroth: "I will never be too sexy for my shirts"
Shulk: "I was here FIRST pal!"
I agree with all of these except Rosalina
Look, I can't give you Sonic. At least they gave him some unique wrist accessories. Some characters don't even have that much
Ngl and I know this is an unpopular opinion, I KINDA disagree with some of the alt criticisms. I get it but to me, Sonic IS the Blue Blur despite missed opportunites for character references so different colors feels kinda unneeded as well as Cloud and Sephiroth being colorful despite their original game doesn't really look right but it's all opinion. Idk I'm one of those people who appreciates the smaller details and everything else as well as respect the mindset Sakurai was going for though Crafty Yoshi is the worst of them all.
For sonic they probably could’ve gave him some of the shoes and accessories he wears in some of his games
@@sometf2player752 Probably. Might be a challenge to go that extra mile but it's highly appreciated especially if they could pull off some deep cuts like the SOAP shoes. Or just give him other people's shoes as well.
@@dnmstarsi wouldnt say the soap shoes is a deep cut considering that sonic team keeps having it show up in new games recently
@@sometf2player752 Not really from my point of view but you get what I mean.
@@sometf2player752 YES!
Finally someone else thinks so!
Here are my ideas:
SA2 Shoes (if those aren't enough then the rest of his upgrades from SA2)
SA1 upgrades (Including potentially his sunglasses from his ending render from SA1)
06 Upgrades with Green Gem Shoes (Meant to fulfill the green alt)
Riders Outfit (My personal favorite look for Sonic)
No Place Shoes and Gloves (From Sonic Prime, meant to fulfill the yellow/black alt)
Favorite Clothes (From the OVA, meant to fulfill the pink/purple alt)
Fake Metal (From Sonic Heroes, nothing too special, just a fun alt, would also change sound effects and remove voicelines)
I like how Jet the Hawk is just added to that image like that
bro is NOT part of the gang
Even though pac man has not good costumes I love playing as him in smash because it’s the first character I ever used and had so much fun with
Plaid Mitts and the Default are my usual costumes
Sonic with grey skin looks like sonic 2017X
The Luma not changing colors might be even worse then the laziness with Rosalina’s dresses
That's because Luma changes color during gameplay
Why would Luma change colors?
You already get different color ones every time you use Luma.
this comment and the Likes are the very definition of not paying attention
@@DarkOverlord96I kinda wish you could choose the Luma color at the start of the match tho so everyone could have their favorite color Luma on throughout the whole match.
@@jackflynn412 doesn't really work, unless you're good at keeping your Luma safe, it's gonna die within less a minute and respawn in a random colour not too long after.
“At least we get to see shirtless Sepiroth” 😂
It can’t be anything related to Square Enix.
They gave Sora good ones.
Also, PAC-MAN Syndrome fits more, because at least Sonic changes hues slightly.
Well, technically Sora is more of a Disney character than a Square Enix character.
@@DarkOverlord96 I still think my point applies.
Why does Sora have some pretty good alternate costumes, but Sephiroth and Cloud have very dark versions of colors?
@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Well, again, I imagine Disney wasn't as stingy with Sora, especially since him having all his costumes from all those games is easy advertisement, but also because he was the last DLC fighter so they wanted to make sure he got the best deal out of all of them.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Sephiroth does have some references.
White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra.
Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7.
Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo.
Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier.
Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
@@orangeslash1667 I mean that the Colors are so Dark.
Besides, that costumes is Silver, not White.
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Funny how he says that for Sonic, but shows the one reminiscent of Rouge, and theres another one reminiscent of Silver
Sonic’s alternate costumes are like: we are mistakes
To be fair, one of Sonic's does reference Silver, even giving him the same cuffs.
Being a sonic main, I will say that Emo Sonic is goated
I always loved Cloud's brown one, he seems ready to farm. I also love that this short's thumbnail shows Black Sonic and says "being different is fine"
The Jet PNG just slapped onto the rest of the cast's sick looking renders makes me fuckin cackle
the idea of sonic costumes being the other characters colors is amazing, red and black, red, yellow, pink, white and pink, purple so many more
The Cloud outfit is his color in the ps1 game (where base costume is closer to remake)
I really love how it looked like pac mans color/avatar changed when he snapped
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Sonic: 8 shades of blue plus some decent references
Pac Man: 1 shade of yellow plus no references
Sonic's costumes do reference his frineds
Worst costume is completely subjective as for example people dislike Dr Mario's Purple costume however i love using it
About the Sonic one, THANK YOU.
There was literally a youtube short before this about sonic's costume references
Instead of making sonic different colors, just give him all of the shoes and items he's worn 😭
Black Sonic (or as I call him, Blackhog) is the only good Sonic alt. And I know people agree with me on that
Sonic having a color representing silver would be sweet
Sonics are more callbacks to the powers he'd be able to get from his previous games
the oven mitten for packman makes me sick, I like the yellow one cuz it makes hit arms look big
that image at the end had me cackling, just all of sonics friends and allies juxtaposed with very obviously photoshopped in jet png
I mean with cloud a simple skin change MAKES IS FINAL SMASH SO MUCH COOLER but that might just be me odk
buddy said at least give sonic costume references like every sonic costume isnt a reference, that had to be a joke😭
*says Sonic is all blue*
Also him: *shows a black-colored alt.*
The black sonic skin reminds me of Dark Sonic from Sonic X, before he turned into Dark Super Sonic. That small hint of dark aura surrounding him as he turns back with a smirk, iconic
Its so sad that pacman doesnt get different color variations. Especially when pacman battle royale exists where he has a red, pink and blue alt in that alone. I could make a whole fresh set of 8 alts with references to pacman and itll be better than what we got.
I think each of Sonic's costume's are a refrence to the Chaos emeralds while the black one is a refrence to dark sonic
I like how in that Sonic Image everyone has their own cool look and blends in behind Sonic
And then you just got Jet
Cloud having the Advent Children outfit as an alt costume is fire, though
The sonic costume actually references the games from over the years
What's really strange is actually back in brawl Sonic's green shoes actually came with his fur being a shade of green as well and now it's just blue with green shoes
Well, he has the silver and shadow references in his skins
Cloud not even getting his iconic PS1 Purple outfit is a joke. His Amiibo actually has those colors too, which is confusing.
Bro, sonics colors do represent his friends.
I will not allow this slander of buff-pac-man
I honestly love Sonic’s skins man 😭
If they made Sonic another color, someone on Deviantart would complain they stole their OC.
I can’t like argue with you. A yellow sonic. Golden sonic. Red sonic. Pink sonic. Green sonic. Mm that would be funnnn
FUN FACT!
in one of first ever smash bros games, Sonic ACTUALLY had pallettes of his friends, infact, he had a Shadow skin that unlike others changed his shoe texture, while others were just changing shoe and furry collour.
that sonic costume that has the neon glowing blue rings is pretty fire though. the black one is nice as well.
The fact that Sonic has like- 10 different super forms and fifty other characters that they could’ve referenced
Well black sonic could be a reference to shadow the hedgehog, who knows🤷🏽
The thumbnail of black sonic with the text “different is fine” hits different
I feel like they could’ve done Sonic with the soap shoes, darker fur and more yellowish skin, to match his SA2 color palette, along with Riders Sonic and Racesuit Sonic from SA2 and Sonic’s pre-dark transformation with Dark Sonic as his Final Smash