i've had ass chewings worse than that, on the 2 way radio,cell phone and in person during my 40 yr work history and survived, i always said my ass was tough and the chewing didn't hurt much. let it go in one ear and out the other and vent my anger and get over it. life does go on.
2:08 98 - "98 - 62, over." 62 - "62, over." 98 - "Why are we stopping?" 62 - "You told us to stop at 39 and check with ya." 98 - "Who said stop at 39? Well, I mean, I said talk to me. Talk to me. You aint gotta stop to talk to me. Keep going east, come on!" 62 - "Roger!" Sounds to me like its one of the guys in the front Rail Unloader car talking to the engineer in the power. A dispatcher wouldnt know if "we are stopping". Also, the strength and clarity of the transmissions compared to the other radio traffic indicates both 98 and 62 were pretty close to this receiver that we're hearing.
Ahhhh I love when ol' DLJ is dispatching!! Our little train watching group call him Brother-Man. (For those of you who aren't along the Erie West Sub, he pretty much calls everyone he talks to on the radio "Brotha.") Talked to a few CSX guys about him, supposedly a real nice guy once you get to know him.
Probably pissed someone didn't make him coffee. A little unprofessional and bitchy but not yelling. Heard worse. It happens on the rail sometimes. I'm only in my 30s and still fairly new but got thick skin.
I wouldn't say he yelled at them, but he definitely raised his voice out of frustration. Very annoying and unprofessional thing to do. Whether he did accidentally tell them to stop before, or if the engineer misheard or misinterpreted the radio transmission, you don't shame someone like that, especially over the radio, where anyone can listen. That would make me feel pretty stupid if I was shamed like that for something that really doesn't matter. When people do that to me, it makes me want to sock them in the face. That dispatcher should have taken a chill pill, calmly, kindly, and professionally told the engineer to proceed, and give him constructive criticism in person after the job is over and let him know how he can improve.
I was a switchman for the Chicago and northwestern for 10 years. Dealing with folks like this dispatcher is just part of the daily grind of being an employee in the workforce. You fuss about and then move on. You MUST keep your mind on the task at hand. There's no time for plotting revenge. There's only time for paying attention to the signals so you don't blow by one. Besides, the dispatcher is likely hundreds of miles away as they are centrally headquartered. Unless you live in the city where dispatch is located, you'll have to waste vacation days to go clobber the guy. Better to just let it go and move on.
Now that can get a guy in trouble. What your dispatcher did there in AZ is a violation of rule 1.6.Employees must not be: 1. Careless of the safety of themselves or others. 2. Negligent. 3. Insubordinate. 4. Dishonest. 5. Immoral. 6. Quarrelsome. or 7. Discourteous. Any act of hostility, misconduct, or willful disregard or negligence affecting the interest of the company or its employees is cause for dismissal and must be reported. Indifference to duty or to the performance of duty will not be tolerated.
That wasn't the dispatcher talking to the crew, that was the rail train operator. He directs the crew where he wants them (by milepost) where to lay the rail. He probably wanted a heads up on where the next lay was, since these guys travel the system and only have a list of mileposts where to lay rail.
I too think that was the MOW crew foreman in the rail unloader telling the engineer in the power unit that he stopped short of where he needs to start laying rail. He told the engineer that he didn't need to stop the train to talk to him and to keep going east.
Support two person train crews keep America safe. You have all got this wrong when it come to 2 man crew verses one man crew. The airlines have had autopilot for years but still have two and 3 people in the cockpit. If Boeing has taught us anything technology fails. It’s all the workers do is worry about losing jobs. Its common sense thousands of railroad workers will lose their jobs if all the railroads are allowed to go to 1 man crews. That's an issue you need to take up with Politicians ! They claims they are creating jobs then let him do something about people keeping the ones they have! This is about safety. This is about saving lives. Not just crew lives but the American people as well. Don’t forget about the rule-making process that was invoked by then-FRA Administrator Joseph C. Szabo after an unattended 74-car freight train carrying crude oil ran downhill and crashed in the Canadian town of Lac-Mégantic, killing 49 people in 2013 that had just one man on the train! Hunter Harrison said on the record those extra set of eyes in the cab are valuable. PTC will not detect track issues or mechanical issues like bad order cars or prevent crossing accidents. Our rules change daily so if an engineer or conductor takes a day off or vacation who will job brief with each other on any newly updated rules that change. How about filling out an EC-1 as the train moves along the tracks or stop and flag a railroad crossing when they have an activation failure with the public crossing gates. We are suppose to job brief to make smart decisions taking the safer course. So if engineers are busy pushing buttons on a screen and reading train orders his eyes are in the cab. If they remove the conductor, it would be counterintuitive. So in my opinion one safety system cancels out the other. Now with ptc and full crew in the cab increases the safety of of train movement. Just plain old common sense. Railroads preach safety every single day. Its in their rule books and in their advertising. Its 24 hour a day safety...safety....safety. Well let them put their money where their mouths are. Pay for safety. Keep 2 men in the cab. Just like GM shutting down 5 plants putting 15,000 people out of work and pay there CEO 22 million. CSX on the other hand lost 41% of the business once Hunter Harrison took over cutting out almost half the work force from 27,893 people down to 15,362 people system wide and they paid him 385 million only to pass away 8 months later! With everything going automated from self check out lanes to manufacturing does anyone profit except share holders and CEOs!!!! The public has no idea what we deal with. Tell your neighbors about how many cars we hit and people are killed every year when they are hit by trains. Explain to them how the engineer is in the cab calling the dispatcher and getting 911 called. He is taking care of anything that may be wrong with the locomotive. He stays with the train. Tell them how the conductor gets down and rushes to the vehicle to see if he can possibly save a life. Maybe a baby is in the car and needs to be helped or maybe the parents can be removed and need CPR. Maybe he can comfort someone who is dying or in shock or screaming because they are severely injured . Tell them about how we hit live stock and large deer. Tell them how people love to put junk on the tracks. Shopping carts, bicycles, steel barrows, wheelchairs and even abandoned cars. A two person crew saved a child’s life wondering around on the tracks in Minnesota near midnight Saturday, Feb. 1, 2020. PTC didn’t help them. Tell them about how many trees we hit a year and do extensive damage to the locomotive. The engineer stays with the locomotives and assess the damage and does what is necessary to radio dispatchers for help while the conductors gets down and removes debris and check the rest of the train for any damage or signs of derailment. Tell them about the territory that is in the middle of TIM BUCK TWO! The places where no one can get to you fast unless you have a helicopter. How will they go bathroom now without two people to keep the train going down the tracks unless they have to stop not blocking crossings or take lunch. Tell them how radios don't always work in remote locations. Telemetry drops out and communication is lost. How many times does a conductor have to go back and trouble shoot another locomotive after alarms are going off. The engineer keeps the train rolling the best he can while the conductor checks the computers and checks to see if it is loading, traction motor faults or any other issue that may arise. Tell them about the blind curves that only one crew member can see around when your approaching public crossings or trees that block signals so that only one crew member can see them until you get the train right on top of them. Tell them about wash outs from floods, and heat warped rail and fog so thick you cant see a foot in front of you. SO WHAT IF YOU GOT PTC!! PTC does not tell you if a car in stopped on the tracks or a tree is across it or a person is walking in the tracks or there is 5 inches of water over the rail! Tell them how crew members have been attacked and some have even been killed by gang thugs and trespassers. A single man has no chance in these situations. It is better to have someone else with you to keep watch when working in bad areas and ghetto rail yards. The list goes on and on. Tell them how the company took away the right of the crew members to take a power nap. One crew member is supposed to call stopped every 15 minutes while they are waiting on line of road. As long as someone is awake and doing this and paying attention there is no reason on god green earth while a tired crew member cant take a 20 minute power nap. Tell them how crews are run into the ground and some are called out every 10 hours around the clock. They work all hours of the day and night and most have no weekends off. The company wont even let them have a power nap. What is going to happen when there is only 1 man on the train by himself and he is just plain worn out or is sick and afraid to take a day off because of the companies new attendance policy which is just absolutely insane. People come to work sick all the time. Vomiting, diarrhea, fevers and the flu doesn't stop them because they are in fear of losing their jobs. How is a sick man who is all by himself going to be able to make a full run safely and without risking his life or the publics when he doesn't have his other crew member to help keep him alert. The engineer has many roles and duties as well as the conductor. There are times when something happens that it is a must for an engineer to be on board and ready to take instructions while the conductor handles the rest of the responsibilities. There are so many things that go into railroading and running trains that the public doesn't know a thing about. THIS ONE MAN CREW IDEA IS THE MOST UNSAFE AND IRRESPONSIBLE IDEA that has ever been brought forward in the history of the railroad industry. And for what? To save a dollar. To line someone's pockets. To make someone rich. Who care who gets killed. If you think crossings are blocked now imagine if there was only one man and had to wait on someone to cut a crossing!Who care about the destruction to family lives. I don't know about you but I sure do and so should every person in America! Also if you haven’t seen it check out these two UA-cam videos. ua-cam.com/video/atfY4tiyMz8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/PoJ1MYWsJ5Q/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/j_rPE44oDE4/v-deo.html
When shoving the person protecting the shove can only talk to the engineer. When the dispatcher called by rule the conductor had to stop to talk with him.
My goodness, there are some soft little flowers out there having their delicate sensibilities bruised aren't there. They better buck up and learn to take some of it and go on.
I'm still glad there are some traces of chessie system. I actually named one of my cats chessie. unfortunately, like 3-4 years ago, she passed away... chessie and chessie system will be missed...
Oh thats cool the Cat pic on Chessie and naming a cat after it. I want to write to the new CEO of CSX and ask him to bring back the Chessie Paint Scheme to CSX engines. Cost should be the same since the they already use yellow
yea I would love that! they were actually restoring a chessie system b30-7 in PA. the new csx scheme to me is a little dull. I would at least want them to bring back the bright future scheme other than the dark future scheme.
yes bring back the kitty, chessie is from our illustrious past, dating back to the days of the B&O as well the first steam railroad in the usa, and part of our history in many towns in the east and the midwest, at least give us chessie or her husband peak, many of us love cats as well, and I remember the C with the kitty on the pillow i the early 80's though I guess its semi B&O colors as it were blueish and gold it will never have the Class and care that B&O did, they were always talking about being good corporate citizens and neighbors in the towns they went though to keep them on their side, it might have just been the era that it happened and common practice but in the old B&O magazine they were always talking about good stewardship, and best practices, also safety at home and on the road, just read it its like a deptment newsletter but it gives insight to the way the railroad ran and had stuff for the workers, the kids, and the wifes at home or otherwise, and gave citations for safety where they saved accendents from being caused, also a family of the month thing, but that was the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, and a differant time when passinger rail was at the height for those that needed and could afford to use it,
1. Protect the TWO MAN CREW BILL (HR 1748 Safe Freight Act) It’s about public safety and jobs. 2. Go to SMART-UNION.org/td Click on the Red button support two person crews on the right side of division home page. 2. Enter contact info ( this is needed to direct the email to your member of congress. 3. Click Send. The pre-drafted my essage will be sent directly to your member of congress. 4. This effects railroad retirement, retired railroaders, current railroaders there’s even a spot for the general public to make there voice be heard. Please take action there is 175,000 conductors and 59,000 engineers that need this support not to mention public safety at risk. 5. safety of the crews and the public must come first! You have all got this wrong when it come to 2 man crew verses one man crew. The airlines have had autopilot for years but still have two and 3 people in the cockpit. If Boeing has taught us anything technology fails. It’s all the workers do is worry about losing jobs. Its common sense thousands of railroad workers will lose their jobs if all the railroads are allowed to go to 1 man crews. That's an issue you need to take up with Politicians ! They claims they are creating jobs then let him do something about people keeping the ones they have! This is about safety. This is about saving lives. Not just crew lives but the American people as well. Don’t forget about the rule-making process that was invoked by then-FRA Administrator Joseph C. Szabo after an unattended 74-car freight train carrying crude oil ran downhill and crashed in the Canadian town of Lac-Mégantic, killing 49 people in 2013 that had just one man on the train!Railroads preach safety every single day. Its in their rule books and in their advertising. Its 24 hour a day safety...safety....safety. Well let them put their money where their mouths are. Pay for safety. Keep 2 men in the cab. Just like GM shutting down 5 plants putting 15,000 people out of work and pay there CEO 22 million. CSX on the other hand lost 41% of the business once Hunter Harrison took over cutting out almost half the work force from 27893 people down to 15,362 people system wide and they paid him 385 million only to pass away 8 months later! With everything going automated from self check out lanes does anyone profit except share holders and CEOs!!!! The public has no idea what we deal with. Tell your neighbors about how many cars we hit and people are killed every year when they are hit by trains. Explain to them how the engineer is in the cab calling the dispatcher and getting 911 called. He is taking care of anything that may be wrong with the locomotive. He stays with the train. Tell them how the conductor gets down and rushes to the vehicle to see if he can possibly save a life. Maybe a baby is in the car and needs to be helped or maybe the parents can be removed and need CPR. Maybe he can comfort someone who is dying or in shock or screaming because they are severely injured . Tell them about how we hit live stock and large deer. Tell them how people love to put junk on the tracks. Shopping carts, bicycles, steel barrows, wheelchairs and even abandoned cars. Tell them about how many trees we hit a year and do extensive damage to the locomotive. The engineer stays with the locomotives and assess the damage and does what is necessary to radio dispatchers for help while the conductors gets down and removes debris and check the rest of the train for any damage or signs of derailment. Tell them about the territory that is in the middle of TIM BUCK TWO! The places where no one can get to you fast unless you have a helicopter. How will they go bathroom now without two people to keep the train going down the tracks unless they have to stop not blocking crossings or take lunch. Tell them how radios don't always work in remote locations. Telemetry drops out and communication is lost. How many times does a conductor have to go back and trouble shoot another unit after alarms are going off. The engineer keeps the train rolling the best he can while the conductor checks the computers and checks to see if it is loading. Tell them about the blind curves that only one crew member can see around when your approaching public crossings or trees that block signals so that only one crew member can see them until you get the train right on top of them. Tell them about wash outs from floods, and heat warped rail and fog so thick you cant see a foot in front of you. SO WHAT IF YOU GOT PTC!! PTC does not tell you if a car in stopped on the tracks or a tree is across it or a person is walking in the tracks or there is 5 inches of water over the rail! Tell them how crew members have been attacked and some have even been killed by gang thugs and trespassers. A single man has no chance in these situations. It is better to have someone else with you to keep watch when working in bad areas and ghetto rail yards. The list goes on and on. Tell them how the company took away the right of the crew members to take a power nap. One crew member is supposed to call stopped every 15 minutes while they are waiting on line of road. As long as someone is awake and doing this and paying attention there is no reason on god green earth while a tired crew member cant take a 20 minute power nap. Tell them how crews are run into the ground and some are called out every 10 hours around the clock. They work all hours of the day and night and most have no weekends off. The company wont even let them have a power nap. What is going to happen when there is only 1 man on the train by himself and he is just plain worn out or is sick and afraid to take a day off because of the companies new attendance policy which is just absolutely insane. People come to work sick all the time. Vomiting, diarrhea, fevers and the flu doesn't stop them because they are in fear of losing their jobs. How is a sick man who is all by himself going to be able to make a full run safely and without risking his life or the publics when he doesn't have his other crew member to help keep him alert. The engineer has many roles and duties as well as the conductor. There are times when something happens that it is a must for an engineer to be on board and ready to take instructions while the conductor handles the rest of the responsibilities. There are so many things that go into railroading and running trains that the public doesn't know a thing about. THIS ONE MAN CREW IDEA IS THE MOST UNSAFE AND IRRESPONSIBLE IDEA that has ever been brought forward in the history of the railroad industry. And for what? To save a dollar. To line someone's pockets. To make someone rich. Who care who gets killed. If you think crossings are blocked now imagine if there was only one man and had to wait on someone to cut a crossing!Who care about the destruction to family lives. I don't know about you but I sure do and so should every person in America! Also if you haven’t seen it check out this UA-cam video ua-cam.com/video/atfY4tiyMz8/v-deo.html Railroadworkersunited.org
Anthony Smith Nigga if you don't get the fudge brownie on somewhere with all that 9th grade English class BS. We came here to watch trains, not a spelling bee. Be gone with you!
Charles Krogstad we were lucky we didn't get ass kickins on a daily basis back at the shop....Haha. We had some serious dispatchers that didn't fuck around. God we dreaded the form D and having to talk to them and repeat all that shit back to them over the engine noise on a crackly squealy radio. Pray you got all the info correct. These were hardened railroad men from the 1960s who swallowed lit cigars whole on their lunch break, when there were 5 men on a train. Conductor engineer brake man switch man and fireman. The good old days. lol....sort of
This comment section is annoying. Christs sake suck it up and move on. None of you would ever last where I work. I'm with Rail Link (division of Genesee and Wyoming) and I'd consider this a GOOD day at work. I get yelled and screamed at, cussed out, threatened, shamed, and lampooned. I wear earplugs at work and I get mocked all the time because, well I can't hear correctly damn it! And I'd be damned if I ever lose my hearing there. The best thing to do is just take it with a grain of salt, and deal it back.
Elliott Wolcott and Wide World of Trains There is no probably about it, the first car(actually the end car) is a threader car for unloading rail and it has workers on it and a rail in position on each side to unload. This car has equipment that can move the rails either off or on to the train. The flat car in the middle with the yellow deck between car 920023 and 920017 is the tie down car where the rails are clamped when travelling to a job site. The rail ends are allowed to move as the train makes curves and turnouts during the move to the unloading site. Most rail trains use flat cars instead of gondolas. A rail train dropped two strings of rail on the UP line that goes through my town this past week.
actually if they are shoving they do have to stop to talk to him. but no dispatcher on csx gives a crap about the rules they just want you to keep going
2:30, LOL! That is hillarious!
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This is not an ass chewing...just normal everyday communication.
YOU SHOULDNT STOP AT 39. TALK TO ME TALK TO ME YOU DONT GOTTA STOP TO STOP TO TALK TO ME KEEP GOING EAST COME ON!
Dispatchers work under a lot of pressure and cannot make mistakes. I have been yelled at by dispatchers more than twice.
Don't take it personally.
3:54 if you notice how the Chessie System logo was messed up...seriously Chessie System was a classy railroad company.
Love Chessie System
Ryan Crawford Parry it was just faded and was drawn on
Classy Cat
What made it a classy company?
2:15 is the moment you been waiting for XD
i've had ass chewings worse than that, on the 2 way radio,cell phone and in person during my 40 yr work history and survived, i always said my ass was tough and the chewing didn't hurt much. let it go in one ear and out the other and vent my anger and get over it. life does go on.
Good way to look at it, thanks
that’s what she said
Once again WWoT is bringing unedited Train coverage ,. this is priceless
If you consider this "yelling" you wouldnt last very long on the railroad.
2:08
98 - "98 - 62, over."
62 - "62, over."
98 - "Why are we stopping?"
62 - "You told us to stop at 39 and check with ya."
98 - "Who said stop at 39? Well, I mean, I said talk to me. Talk to me. You aint gotta stop to talk to me. Keep going east, come on!"
62 - "Roger!"
Sounds to me like its one of the guys in the front Rail Unloader car talking to the engineer in the power. A dispatcher wouldnt know if "we are stopping". Also, the strength and clarity of the transmissions compared to the other radio traffic indicates both 98 and 62 were pretty close to this receiver that we're hearing.
Hahaha! "you ain't gotta stop to talk to me...!"
LOL yea
And now you know why dispatchers have been know to have to see a proctologist to get a steel toed boot removed from a certain part of their posterior.
Lol
Ahhhh I love when ol' DLJ is dispatching!! Our little train watching group call him Brother-Man. (For those of you who aren't along the Erie West Sub, he pretty much calls everyone he talks to on the radio "Brotha.") Talked to a few CSX guys about him, supposedly a real nice guy once you get to know him.
Yes ive heard that too, heard him say some stuff today too LOL
"Keep going east come on" his tone sounds more like a sports coach
Yes it does a little
Probably pissed someone didn't make him coffee. A little unprofessional and bitchy but not yelling. Heard worse. It happens on the rail sometimes. I'm only in my 30s and still fairly new but got thick skin.
I wouldn't say he yelled at them, but he definitely raised his voice out of frustration. Very annoying and unprofessional thing to do. Whether he did accidentally tell them to stop before, or if the engineer misheard or misinterpreted the radio transmission, you don't shame someone like that, especially over the radio, where anyone can listen. That would make me feel pretty stupid if I was shamed like that for something that really doesn't matter. When people do that to me, it makes me want to sock them in the face. That dispatcher should have taken a chill pill, calmly, kindly, and professionally told the engineer to proceed, and give him constructive criticism in person after the job is over and let him know how he can improve.
I was a switchman for the Chicago and northwestern for 10 years. Dealing with folks like this dispatcher is just part of the daily grind of being an employee in the workforce. You fuss about and then move on. You MUST keep your mind on the task at hand. There's no time for plotting revenge. There's only time for paying attention to the signals so you don't blow by one. Besides, the dispatcher is likely hundreds of miles away as they are centrally headquartered. Unless you live in the city where dispatch is located, you'll have to waste vacation days to go clobber the guy. Better to just let it go and move on.
How??? How can you get even with the train dispatcher in this case???
You're speaking in generalities. Give me an example of how this crew can get even with the dispatcher.
We had dispatch hear in AZ tell the train crew they sucked at their job, we didn't hear much from him after that
Now that can get a guy in trouble. What your dispatcher did there in AZ is a violation of rule 1.6.Employees must not be:
1. Careless of the safety of themselves or others.
2. Negligent.
3. Insubordinate.
4. Dishonest.
5. Immoral.
6. Quarrelsome.
or
7. Discourteous.
Any act of hostility, misconduct, or willful disregard or negligence affecting the interest of the company or
its employees is cause for dismissal and must be reported. Indifference to duty or to the performance of
duty will not be tolerated.
That wasn't the dispatcher talking to the crew, that was the rail train operator. He directs the crew where he wants them (by milepost) where to lay the rail. He probably wanted a heads up on where the next lay was, since these guys travel the system and only have a list of mileposts where to lay rail.
No I think it was the Dispatcher
GP30RDMT you talking about the crew foreman?
I too think that was the MOW crew foreman in the rail unloader telling the engineer in the power unit that he stopped short of where he needs to start laying rail. He told the engineer that he didn't need to stop the train to talk to him and to keep going east.
rond361 no it was the IH dispatcher
Support two person train crews keep America safe.
You have all got this wrong when it come to 2 man crew verses one man
crew. The airlines have had autopilot for years but still have two and 3 people in the cockpit. If Boeing has taught us anything technology fails. It’s all the workers do is worry about losing jobs. Its common sense thousands of railroad workers will lose their jobs if all the railroads are allowed to go to 1 man crews. That's an issue you need to take up with Politicians ! They claims they are creating jobs then let him do something
about people keeping the ones they have!
This is about safety. This is about saving lives. Not just crew lives but the American people as well. Don’t forget about the rule-making process that was invoked by then-FRA Administrator Joseph C. Szabo after an unattended 74-car freight train carrying crude oil ran downhill and crashed in the Canadian town of Lac-Mégantic, killing 49 people in 2013 that had just one man on the train! Hunter Harrison said on the record those extra set of eyes in the cab are valuable. PTC will not detect track issues or mechanical issues like bad order cars or prevent crossing accidents. Our rules change daily so if an engineer or conductor takes a day off or vacation who will job brief with each other on any newly updated rules that change. How about filling out an EC-1 as the train moves along the tracks or stop and flag a railroad crossing when they have an activation failure with the public crossing gates. We are suppose to job brief to make smart decisions taking the safer course. So if engineers are busy pushing buttons on a screen and reading train orders his eyes are in the cab. If they remove the conductor, it would be counterintuitive. So in my opinion one safety system cancels out the other. Now with ptc and full crew in the cab increases the safety of of train movement. Just plain old common sense.
Railroads preach safety every single day.
Its in their rule books and in their advertising. Its 24 hour a day
safety...safety....safety. Well let them put their money where their mouths are. Pay for safety. Keep 2 men in the cab.
Just like GM shutting down 5 plants putting 15,000 people out of work and pay there CEO 22 million. CSX on the other hand lost 41% of the business once Hunter Harrison took over cutting out almost half the work force from 27,893 people down to 15,362 people system wide and they paid him 385 million only to pass away 8 months later!
With everything going automated from self check out lanes to manufacturing does anyone profit except share holders and CEOs!!!! The public has no idea what we deal with. Tell your neighbors about how many cars we hit and people are killed every year when they are hit by
trains. Explain to them how the engineer is in the cab calling the dispatcher and getting 911 called. He is taking care of anything that may be wrong with the locomotive. He stays with the train. Tell them how the conductor gets down and rushes to the vehicle to see if he can
possibly save a life. Maybe a baby is in the car and needs to be helped
or maybe the parents can be removed and need CPR. Maybe he can comfort
someone who is dying or in shock or screaming because they are severely
injured . Tell them about how we hit live stock and large deer. Tell them how people love to put junk on the tracks. Shopping carts, bicycles, steel barrows, wheelchairs and even abandoned cars. A two person crew saved a child’s life wondering around on the tracks in Minnesota near midnight Saturday, Feb. 1, 2020. PTC didn’t help them. Tell them about how many trees we hit a year and do extensive damage to the
locomotive. The engineer stays with the locomotives and assess the damage and does what is necessary to radio dispatchers for help while the conductors gets down and removes debris and check the rest of the train for any damage or signs of derailment. Tell them about the
territory that is in the middle of TIM BUCK TWO! The places where no one can get to you fast unless you have a helicopter. How will they go bathroom now without two people to keep the train going down the tracks unless they have to stop not blocking crossings or take lunch. Tell them how radios don't always work in remote locations. Telemetry drops out and communication is lost. How many times does a conductor have to go back
and trouble shoot another locomotive after alarms are going off. The engineer
keeps the train rolling the best he can while the conductor checks the
computers and checks to see if it is loading, traction motor faults or any other issue that may arise. Tell them about the blind curves that only one crew member can see around when your approaching
public crossings or trees that block signals so that only one crew member can see them until you get the train right on top of them. Tell them about wash outs from floods, and heat warped rail and fog so thick you cant see a foot in front of you. SO WHAT IF YOU GOT PTC!! PTC does not tell you if a car in stopped on the tracks or a tree is across it or a person is walking in the tracks or there is 5 inches of water over the rail! Tell them how crew members have been attacked and some have even been killed by gang thugs and trespassers. A single man has no
chance in these situations. It is better to have someone else with you to keep watch when working in bad areas and ghetto rail yards. The list goes on and on. Tell them how the company took away the right of the crew members to take a power nap. One crew member is supposed to call stopped every 15 minutes while they are waiting on line of road. As long as someone is awake and doing this and paying attention there is no reason on god green earth while a tired crew member cant take a 20
minute power nap. Tell them how crews are run into the ground and some
are called out every 10 hours around the clock. They work all hours of the day and night and most have no weekends off. The company wont even let them have a power nap. What is going to happen when there is only 1 man on the train by himself and he is just plain worn out or is sick and afraid to take a day off because of the companies new attendance policy
which is just absolutely insane. People come to work sick all the time. Vomiting, diarrhea, fevers and the flu doesn't stop them because they are in fear of losing their jobs. How is a sick man who is all by
himself going to be able to make a full run safely and without risking his life or the publics when he doesn't have his other crew member to help keep him alert. The engineer has many roles and duties as well as the conductor. There are times when something happens that it is a must
for an engineer to be on board and ready to take instructions while the conductor handles the rest of the responsibilities. There are so many things that go into railroading and running trains that the public doesn't know a thing about.
THIS ONE MAN CREW IDEA IS THE MOST UNSAFE AND IRRESPONSIBLE IDEA that
has ever been brought forward in the history of the railroad industry.
And for what? To save a dollar. To line someone's pockets. To make someone rich. Who care who gets killed. If you think crossings are blocked now imagine if there was only one man and had to wait on someone to cut a crossing!Who care about the destruction to family lives. I don't know about you but I sure do and so should every person in America!
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That was a conversation between the engineer and conductor. This is very normal..
what we have here is, failure to communicate.
I don't think it's actually a "dispatcher" or an RTC, I think it's the foreman responsible for whatever section they're in.
Stan Patterson nope it was the Ih dispatcher
When shoving the person protecting the shove can only talk to the engineer. When the dispatcher called by rule the conductor had to stop to talk with him.
Exactly!
Looked like that might have been Dunkirk, NY...Lake Shore line...
Yes you got it, Dunkirk New York
Shoot, I've been yelled at louder when I was a truck driver. Usually by customers, though. Not by my dispatcher.
I can imagine, thanks for watching
Shippers and receivers are always complete assholes
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Wrestling
If I'm in the midst of a shove move, I'm stopping if I have to talk to anyone but my conductor. The crew did the right thing.
Wow. You were there at the right place at the right time!
Yes thanks
Wide World of Trains Your Welcome
i like your video
Probably a broken coffee machine in the dispatcher office. That's how I feel when there is no coffee when I need it.
What's the difference between a Train controller and God?
God doesn't think he's a Train controller.
My goodness, there are some soft little flowers out there having their delicate sensibilities bruised aren't there. They better buck up and learn to take some of it and go on.
Cool catch on the bridge
So what do you do if you have to take a massive dump while conducting a train like this?
They have a restroom in the locomotive
Dispatcher didn't yell, He just had the tone of frustration. He still shouldn't have did that though, He's not a police Captain.
Yeah I hear you thanks for watching
Depends on how many times he had been talked to. The more often you make the same mistake, the tastier the boss will become.
@@asafaust8869 That is also very true.
That is the best sounding locomotive man!!!!
SD40-2 are awesome!
"Subject retrieved his property and left...with his mother." ?
Sounds like police
LOL. So Hilarious.😂😅😆
What part?
@@WideWorldofTrains, 2:20
Very interesting. Neat train too. Thanks for uploading.
I'm still glad there are some traces of chessie system. I actually named one of my cats chessie. unfortunately, like 3-4 years ago, she passed away... chessie and chessie system will be missed...
Oh thats cool the Cat pic on Chessie and naming a cat after it. I want to write to the new CEO of CSX and ask him to bring back the Chessie Paint Scheme to CSX engines. Cost should be the same since the they already use yellow
yea I would love that! they were actually restoring a chessie system b30-7 in PA. the new csx scheme to me is a little dull. I would at least want them to bring back the bright future scheme other than the dark future scheme.
yes bring back the kitty, chessie is from our illustrious past, dating back to the days of the B&O as well the first steam railroad in the usa, and part of our history in many towns in the east and the midwest, at least give us chessie or her husband peak, many of us love cats as well, and I remember the C with the kitty on the pillow i the early 80's
though I guess its semi B&O colors as it were blueish and gold it will never have the Class and care that B&O did, they were always talking about being good corporate citizens and neighbors in the towns they went though to keep them on their side, it might have just been the era that it happened and common practice but in the old B&O magazine they were always talking about good stewardship, and best practices, also safety at home and on the road, just read it its like a deptment newsletter but it gives insight to the way the railroad ran and had stuff for the workers, the kids, and the wifes at home or otherwise, and gave citations for safety where they saved accendents from being caused, also a family of the month thing, but that was the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, and a differant time when passinger rail was at the height for those that needed and could afford to use it,
Megaman334 in Detroit I seen like ten chessie box cars by a plant there.
Megaman334 right when I read this I heard a cat meow
Ooooooooh someone's in trouble lol Great video!
D&HRailProductions thanks
Nice the old Chessie System logo
That was the conductor on the head end of a shove move talking to the engineer.
1. Protect the TWO MAN CREW BILL (HR 1748 Safe Freight Act) It’s about public safety and jobs.
2. Go to SMART-UNION.org/td
Click on the Red button support two person crews on the right side of division home page.
2. Enter contact info ( this is needed to direct the email to your member of congress.
3. Click Send. The pre-drafted my essage will be sent directly to your member of congress.
4. This effects railroad retirement, retired railroaders, current railroaders there’s even a spot for the general public to make there voice be heard. Please take action there is 175,000 conductors and 59,000 engineers that need this support not to mention public safety at risk.
5. safety of the crews and the public must come first!
You have all got this wrong when it come to 2 man crew verses one man
crew. The airlines have had autopilot for years but still have two and 3 people in the cockpit. If Boeing has taught us anything technology fails. It’s all the workers do is worry about losing jobs. Its common sense thousands of railroad workers will lose their jobs if all the railroads are allowed to go to 1 man crews. That's an issue you need to take up with Politicians ! They claims they are creating jobs then let him do something
about people keeping the ones they have!
This is about safety. This is about saving lives. Not just crew lives
but the American people as well. Don’t forget about the rule-making process that was invoked by then-FRA Administrator Joseph C. Szabo after an unattended 74-car freight train carrying crude oil ran downhill and crashed in the Canadian town of Lac-Mégantic, killing 49 people in 2013 that had just one man on the train!Railroads preach safety every single day.
Its in their rule books and in their advertising. Its 24 hour a day
safety...safety....safety. Well let them put their money where their mouths are. Pay for safety. Keep 2 men in the cab.
Just like GM shutting down 5 plants putting 15,000 people out of work and pay there CEO 22 million. CSX on the other hand lost 41% of the business once Hunter Harrison took over cutting out almost half the work force from 27893 people down to 15,362 people system wide and they paid him 385 million only to pass away 8 months later!
With everything going automated from self check out lanes does anyone profit except share holders and CEOs!!!!
The public has no idea what we deal with. Tell your neighbors about how
many cars we hit and people are killed every year when they are hit by
trains. Explain to them how the engineer is in the cab calling the dispatcher and getting 911 called. He is taking care of anything that may be wrong with the locomotive. He stays with the train. Tell them how the conductor gets down and rushes to the vehicle to see if he can
possibly save a life. Maybe a baby is in the car and needs to be helped
or maybe the parents can be removed and need CPR. Maybe he can comfort
someone who is dying or in shock or screaming because they are severely
injured . Tell them about how we hit live stock and large deer. Tell them how people love to put junk on the tracks. Shopping carts, bicycles, steel barrows, wheelchairs and even abandoned cars. Tell them about how many trees we hit a year and do extensive damage to the
locomotive. The engineer stays with the locomotives and assess the damage and does what is necessary to radio dispatchers for help while
the conductors gets down and removes debris and check the rest of the
train for any damage or signs of derailment. Tell them about the
territory that is in the middle of TIM BUCK TWO! The places where no
one can get to you fast unless you have a helicopter. How will they go bathroom now without two people to keep the train going down the tracks unless they have to stop not blocking crossings or take lunch. Tell them how radios don't always work in remote locations. Telemetry drops out and communication is lost. How many times does a conductor have to go back
and trouble shoot another unit after alarms are going off. The engineer
keeps the train rolling the best he can while the conductor checks the
computers and checks to see if it is loading. Tell them about the blind
curves that only one crew member can see around when your approaching
public crossings or trees that block signals so that only one crew
member can see them until you get the train right on top of them. Tell
them about wash outs from floods, and heat warped rail and fog so thick
you cant see a foot in front of you. SO WHAT IF YOU GOT PTC!! PTC does
not tell you if a car in stopped on the tracks or a tree is across it
or a person is walking in the tracks or there is 5 inches of water over
the rail! Tell them how crew members have been attacked and some have
even been killed by gang thugs and trespassers. A single man has no
chance in these situations. It is better to have someone else
with you to keep watch when working in bad areas and ghetto rail yards.
The list goes on and on. Tell them how the company took away the right
of the crew members to take a power nap. One crew member is supposed to
call stopped every 15 minutes while they are waiting on line of road. As
long as someone is awake and doing this and paying attention there is no
reason on god green earth while a tired crew member cant take a 20
minute power nap. Tell them how crews are run into the ground and some
are called out every 10 hours around the clock. They work all hours of
the day and night and most have no weekends off. The company wont even
let them have a power nap. What is going to happen when there is only 1
man on the train by himself and he is just plain worn out or is sick and
afraid to take a day off because of the companies new attendance policy
which is just absolutely insane. People come to work sick all the time.
Vomiting, diarrhea, fevers and the flu doesn't stop them because they
are in fear of losing their jobs. How is a sick man who is all by
himself going to be able to make a full run safely and without risking
his life or the publics when he doesn't have his other crew member to
help keep him alert. The engineer has many roles and duties as well as
the conductor. There are times when something happens that it is a must
for an engineer to be on board and ready to take instructions while the
conductor handles the rest of the responsibilities. There are so many
things that go into railroading and running trains that the public
doesn't know a thing about.
THIS ONE MAN CREW IDEA IS THE MOST UNSAFE AND IRRESPONSIBLE IDEA that
has ever been brought forward in the history of the railroad industry.
And for what? To save a dollar. To line someone's pockets. To make
someone rich. Who care who gets killed. If you think crossings are blocked now imagine if there was only one man and had to wait on someone to cut a crossing!Who care about the destruction
to family lives. I don't know about you but I sure do and so should every person in America!
Also if you haven’t seen it check out this UA-cam video
ua-cam.com/video/atfY4tiyMz8/v-deo.html
Railroadworkersunited.org
Railhead...... nice catch !! 🚂🚂
Just a regular day on CSX
Thanks for catching the cat.
Thanks I have more Trains with real cats, here is one ua-cam.com/video/dSUIRZLt4cE/v-deo.html
"....Ain't have to stop to talk to me...."
Yea
I would’ve stopped. You don’t proceed past a warranted CP - period. Train crew was right.
That's a good point. Safety is paramount.
???? All I heard was someone saying "clear 39. Clear 98". What are you all hearing? I didn't hear anything but that.
Nice job on this, good stuff!
Thanks I appreciate your comments
Great Video!
awesome video. sweet catch.
Thanks for watching
your welcome
Anthony Smith Nigga if you don't get the fudge brownie on somewhere with all that 9th grade English class BS. We came here to watch trains, not a spelling bee. Be gone with you!
Where was this taken
This was Dunkirk New York which is about 35 miles Southwest of Buffalo
That's the rail train operator not the dispatcher.
Millennials have a strange definition of what 'yelling' is
LOL yeah that could be true. I'm not a millennial though
Apparently people who like dissing millennials don't bother getting their facts straight first - ASSumption is much easier.
Triggered
And throwing out now meaningless names that now apply to them as well also seems to be the only thing they're capable of as well.
whiteknightcat Buttblasted
Great video.
Thanks
XD someone seems pretty pissed off.
Yelled at them? Haha that's nothing. YOU SHOULD HEARD THE Abuse Our train Crews Used To GET ON CP rail from our dispatcers.
Wow was this years ago or more recently?
On more than one occasion by a couple dispatchers at the CP who just talked to everyone that way.
Charles Krogstad we were lucky we didn't get ass kickins on a daily basis back at the shop....Haha. We had some serious dispatchers that didn't fuck around. God we dreaded the form D and having to talk to them and repeat all that shit back to them over the engine noise on a crackly squealy radio. Pray you got all the info correct. These were hardened railroad men from the 1960s who swallowed lit cigars whole on their lunch break, when there were 5 men on a train. Conductor engineer brake man switch man and fireman. The good old days. lol....sort of
LOL... EXACTLY!
How common does this happen? does it get to the point where they don't like their job anymore?...
That dispatcher has some anger issues sheesh
Better safe than sorry. Give me a f'ing break.
That’s not yelling?
This is a work train, probably a road worker or foreman talking to the engineer
It was the dispatcher talking to the engineer
Yea I hear that
Awesome catch!
Thanks
Your welcome!
I seen an old Chessie System car! Ya!
Yes there was a few of them
He never yelds at you he say tell your mom i say hi
This comment section is annoying. Christs sake suck it up and move on. None of you would ever last where I work. I'm with Rail Link (division of Genesee and Wyoming) and I'd consider this a GOOD day at work. I get yelled and screamed at, cussed out, threatened, shamed, and lampooned. I wear earplugs at work and I get mocked all the time because, well I can't hear correctly damn it! And I'd be damned if I ever lose my hearing there. The best thing to do is just take it with a grain of salt, and deal it back.
Also, I would've said, "sorry I stopped for a deer. His name was George."
A Crustacean amen, somebody on the railroad I vounteer at yelled at me because I told him not to stab our coaches seats
That makes it ok. I'm with the 1st guy.
Nice catch. Why was it going backwards?
Thanks probably to get in position to drop the rail when going forward
Wide World of Trains Any plans tonight?
Going to try some Live Streams in about an hour or so, maybe earlier
Elliott Wolcott and Wide World of Trains There is no probably about it, the first car(actually the end car) is a threader car for unloading rail and it has workers on it and a rail in position on each side to unload. This car has equipment that can move the rails either off or on to the train. The flat car in the middle with the yellow deck between car 920023 and 920017 is the tie down car where the rails are clamped when travelling to a job site. The rail ends are allowed to move as the train makes curves and turnouts during the move to the unloading site. Most rail trains use flat cars instead of gondolas.
A rail train dropped two strings of rail on the UP line that goes through my town this past week.
Yes I know, just sayin probably :)
what in the heck was that at the beginning????
Who pissed in his cornflakes?
Thanks for watching
Aggressive at 2:16
actually if they are shoving they do have to stop to talk to him. but no dispatcher on csx gives a crap about the rules they just want you to keep going
😎 Cool 🚂
Thank you for your support
There would be a dispatcher going home that afternoon with two swollen shut eyes, a crooked nose and some missing teeth......
That’s yelling? lol
theres two ppl on a train theres a engineer and a conductor
Didn't hear anyone yelling...
I was sent here
Thanks for watching
Someone’s having a bad day
This could of been a new enginer in the train
SD 38-2?
freevideos051 SD40-2
They sound and look cool, I am looking at 3 as I wright this, they are on my shelf layout that goes above doors and windows to save space
I did get a Rare GP38-2 today here it is ua-cam.com/video/LX1EgKwC3y8/v-deo.html
Stikbot 9035 Cool. What's the years of manufacture for the SD40 - 2?
Hakeem Mulholland 1966 - 1973 and about a total were produced.
2:23
LOL! that was great!!
That wasnt yelling...
It is a good vidio
The engineer was a DOOSH .
cool video
Thanks appreciate that
Doing what you think is the right thing,,,,will oft get you in the penalty box…….
HAHA that is AWSOME!
Thanks
coooool
Thanks
Conductor. Engineer. All kinds of BS postions... Dispatch
Dunkirk NY
I totally remember that stretch of grade separated tracks!!
Yelling?
OMG THIS IS AMAZING LOL
Big deal! It’s a job..rail fans amaze me!
Anybody else get tired of railfan videos that have a 40 second stupid intro?
Me, thats why I shortened it to 7 seconds
This is normal on the railroad. Move along
That's not yelling
Wow ,,,keren iklanye panjang ,,,
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Thanks for watching