Nice video examples! Counter steering is confusing. It is much easier to think "Push Right to go Right", "Push Left to go Left". There is a second part to swerving around objects. Don't look at the object (target fixation). Look a the path AROUND the object. Then countersteer. Look where you go, go where you look. Same as looking into a turn. You can practice by picking out a blotch on the road, looking at the path around it, and countersteering around it. That will come in handy when you come across a tailpipe or carpet remnant sitting in the road. Develop those reflexes and they will be there when you need them.
Counter steering INITIATES turns. When the front wheel is pointing to the left, the bike starts leaning to the right, because the wheel is on a path away from the center of the bike. The thing that grinds my gears is how many people don't understand that counter steering is not continuous. Once the bike is leaned over enough to counter act the force of going around the curve, the wheel must turn back the other way to point into the direction of the curve. At high speed and long radius turns, these movements are so small they're easy to miss, but it is happening. If you kept steering to the left, the bike would lean more and more to the right until it fell over. If you don't believe it, go get a bicycle and ride it around a parking lot until you figure it out. Once you understand how the handling really works, you enter the world of being able to actually ride a motorcycle well, because you will give it the inputs it needs to do what you want. Or, if you want to argue with me, enjoy figuring it out the hard way, it's not like I'm getting paid to help randos.
Great video! I just took the MSF course and got my license last week and have been riding my new MT-07 and these tips are exactly what I’ve been practicing. It seems counter intuitive but once you realize that initiating the lean angle by counter-steering is what helps the bike turn at 15+ MPH, it all makes sense.
@@randywright28 exactly we’re all here to be the best riders we can be buddy!! Congrats on the msf course and the mt07 is an amazing bike just remember wheelies come later!
I don't even own a bike but I know what you're saying about counter turning, leaning, weight, and speeds..... doing a twisty at 3-4 X's the speed limit is their 1st of several mistakes & God only knows how much gravel, moisture/leaves, oily spots, or other debris might be on the curve they've entered into way too fast? Even on the race track you're not guaranteed clear roads but it's better than our roads. Glad you're talking about this, also they are the reason insurance rates are so high..... wanna go faster, go to the track or Don't ?
We’ve got different views on this everything you mentioned is easy to deal with and this is as much a skill needed at 40 mph or 100 people will crash but my idea is to help them progress better day to day faster and effectively without only riding 4 times a year because they thought a track was the only good time to try
@@CramcrumBrewbringer It really does drop down. Very few people realize this, but the tires on a motorcycle work differently than on a car (I know you know that, but the average person may not.). The front and rear tires not only spin at different speeds, the difference in speed between the two is constantly varying, as is the size of the tire. Motorcycle tires are curved, and when you lean the bike in a turn, the diameter of the tire decreases the further out from the center you ride on. The more you lean, the smaller the tire gets. When you initiate a turn and the motorcycle starts to lean, you just changed the size of your tires. That sudden movement of the handle bars is friction forcing compliance of the front and rear wheels to spin with the lease amount of resistance. That's also why you can turn the handle bars in the direction you want to steer at very slow speeds. You're overcoming the friction that forces the bike to lean. The faster you go, the harder it becomes to steer in the same direction of your turn, and you eventually get to the crossover point where the motorcycle forces you to counter steer.
@@Lostonabikesame grip as holding an Icecream cone..the same with tank slapping death wobbles just need Icecream cone grip and lean forward over the gas tank to add weight over the front wheel..vs that naturally white knuckle grip with stiff arm reflex that is so common that can make it so much worse..
Bike sounds nice on the video and good choice of roads
@@josesoares7659 thank you buddy!! I’ve got a few more amazing routes I’ll be showing soon
Nice video examples! Counter steering is confusing. It is much easier to think "Push Right to go Right", "Push Left to go Left". There is a second part to swerving around objects. Don't look at the object (target fixation). Look a the path AROUND the object. Then countersteer. Look where you go, go where you look. Same as looking into a turn. You can practice by picking out a blotch on the road, looking at the path around it, and countersteering around it. That will come in handy when you come across a tailpipe or carpet remnant sitting in the road. Develop those reflexes and they will be there when you need them.
Counter steering INITIATES turns. When the front wheel is pointing to the left, the bike starts leaning to the right, because the wheel is on a path away from the center of the bike.
The thing that grinds my gears is how many people don't understand that counter steering is not continuous. Once the bike is leaned over enough to counter act the force of going around the curve, the wheel must turn back the other way to point into the direction of the curve. At high speed and long radius turns, these movements are so small they're easy to miss, but it is happening. If you kept steering to the left, the bike would lean more and more to the right until it fell over.
If you don't believe it, go get a bicycle and ride it around a parking lot until you figure it out. Once you understand how the handling really works, you enter the world of being able to actually ride a motorcycle well, because you will give it the inputs it needs to do what you want.
Or, if you want to argue with me, enjoy figuring it out the hard way, it's not like I'm getting paid to help randos.
quit throwing your fit and go somewhere else acting like that
Great video
@@DragginFlys thanks buddy
Great video! I just took the MSF course and got my license last week and have been riding my new MT-07 and these tips are exactly what I’ve been practicing. It seems counter intuitive but once you realize that initiating the lean angle by counter-steering is what helps the bike turn at 15+ MPH, it all makes sense.
@@randywright28 exactly we’re all here to be the best riders we can be buddy!! Congrats on the msf course and the mt07 is an amazing bike just remember wheelies come later!
Good choice. I'm a new rider too. I went with the MT-09. Stay safe and be vigilant.
@@AceGoodheart mt09 is a BEASST
@@Lostonabike Especially once I get the ECU Flash done on it.
@@AceGoodheart wheelie machine then
press left grip forward to tip left, press right grip forward to tip right
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I don't even own a bike but I know what you're saying about counter turning, leaning, weight, and speeds..... doing a twisty at 3-4 X's the
speed limit is their 1st of several mistakes & God only knows how much gravel, moisture/leaves, oily spots, or other debris might be on
the curve they've entered into way too fast? Even on the race track you're not guaranteed clear roads but it's better than our roads.
Glad you're talking about this, also they are the reason insurance rates are so high..... wanna go faster, go to the track or Don't ?
We’ve got different views on this everything you mentioned is easy to deal with and this is as much a skill needed at 40 mph or 100 people will crash but my idea is to help them progress better day to day faster and effectively without only riding 4 times a year because they thought a track was the only good time to try
You push the left handlebar to go left and push right to go right
@@steve00alt70 yes just like in the video. It’s not very complicated. It just takes some time to get used to.
Thanks 👍🏼
@@Steve-ob2zg of course! I hope it helped some
It looks like you are pulling down on the handle to the side, not forward
When you push the left bar forward, the bike is quickly tipping to the left, so the left bar also appears to drop down.
cramcrum is exactly right on this one normally my outside arm is relaxed with as light of a grip as possible
@@CramcrumBrewbringer It really does drop down. Very few people realize this, but the tires on a motorcycle work differently than on a car (I know you know that, but the average person may not.). The front and rear tires not only spin at different speeds, the difference in speed between the two is constantly varying, as is the size of the tire. Motorcycle tires are curved, and when you lean the bike in a turn, the diameter of the tire decreases the further out from the center you ride on. The more you lean, the smaller the tire gets. When you initiate a turn and the motorcycle starts to lean, you just changed the size of your tires. That sudden movement of the handle bars is friction forcing compliance of the front and rear wheels to spin with the lease amount of resistance. That's also why you can turn the handle bars in the direction you want to steer at very slow speeds. You're overcoming the friction that forces the bike to lean. The faster you go, the harder it becomes to steer in the same direction of your turn, and you eventually get to the crossover point where the motorcycle forces you to counter steer.
@@052RC Well put!
@@Lostonabikesame grip as holding an Icecream cone..the same with tank slapping death wobbles just need Icecream cone grip and lean forward over the gas tank to add weight over the front wheel..vs that naturally white knuckle grip with stiff arm reflex that is so common that can make it so much worse..