@@adamfattal468 While I wouldn't conduce any type to "being a dick" - your example could be an accurate depiction of someone realising they have made poor judgements. Now you can make the argument that the quote in question could be a naive claim, but that would just be a seperate issue of it being poorly rationalised.
I understand that MBTI is not a hard science but I am so glad that I learned about it. It totally changed my perspective, especially how I treat myself. I used to be a more toxic version of INFJ ... I learned MBTI around the same time Frank started his YT channel and I follwed him since then
@@wertfasd no, i am disagreeing with you because you are wrong, which might be a part of what you might commonly call a "personality", which has nothing to do with the non-scientific classification of personalities by myers-briggs. as i said, it is equal to horoscopes.
@@jodawgsup It is different from horoscopes due to the fact that you had to answer a set of questions to reach a certain type. Now whether those set of questions are accurately constructed is another topic to discuss but through these set of questions you yourself are just describing yourself and the personality is just a 'summary' of what could be your personality. Of course this is not entirely scientific as no one peer reviewed the process but it does make sense for someone if he/she tried studying his/her personality type than just assuming the results of his/her type is correct. Horoscopes on the other hand is just based on your birthday which really doesn't correlate to anything significant. Or you mean to tell me statistics are unscientific since its basing off of surveys and questionnaires to people possibly picked with bias. Your turn Mr scientist who didn't really provide any constructive argument so far ;)
I look at MBTI as a tool that you can use to learn more about yourself and other people. Knowing your partner’s type or your child’s type and being aware of that type’s tendencies/ characteristics can be very helpful. Who doesn’t want to be understood?
I used to study and read this stuff non stop many years ago after reading an almost intrusively accurate description of my "type". There is definitely a lot of practical uses for being able to type or roughly type people around you and of course, a lot to be learned about your own strengths and weaknesses. I think its very important to remember however, what the word personality means. It stems from the root "persona" which literally means mask in latin. Your personality isn't really you, its just the mask you put on to engage with the world. But when you take that mask off, thats when life really begins!
Your personality is you as much as your skin and bones, if you put up a 'mask' to engage the world with you can never take it off unless you are literally acting or have taken a heavy dose of psychedelics, even then it lurks in the background. Your persona encompasses your readiness to share or withhold information from people and is very much the real you whether you feel it as a subconscious force or not.
@@Felix-dx2qw "Your personality is you as much as your skin and bones are you" - I completely agree with this statement. If a little piece of skin falls off is it still you? If you lose a finger is it still you? The two most fundemental misidentifications are with the body, and the mind. The truth is you are neither of those things- something far greater!
@@jaymoney522 You are all those things, the far greater being you talk about is dependant on your biological self to exist and experience life in this dimension. We are the universe experiencing itself as individuals. I think what you're not identifying is the difference between an individual and the universe they emerged from, there are far greater forces at play within and around us but we are just a piece of that. I think like most people, you fancy the idea that you're a multidimensional 'greater' being or force held in a biological shell, but really we are just the shell until eons have passed and all the energy from us, our minds to our skin along with the trees and stars has returned to it's other, 'greater' state.
i don’t understand what you mean by mask. I try my best to make others feel good and to act nice and stuff. and i’ve taken the advice of “not caring what anyone thinks of you” and it makes for a pretty fucking miserable life. as far as i’m concerned all wear a mask around people all i want, but that “mask” makes others feel great, as well as me.
Dude, seeing FJ on here is the weirdest crossover ever. I used to watch his channel when he only had a handful of viewers. His content was always so relatable and cathartic and educational. Good dude, happy to see him on here :)
This was the most awkward ending from every videos i’ve watched on youtube. That’s why i love it. It’s entertaining. Always will be supporting you Frank James.
This was a fun watch, Chatting Withs have always been my favourite version of your content. The soothing outdoor setting really made it pleasing to watch this. Keep it up Andrew, hope you come up with more Chatting Withs!
Though this not be a hard science, it sure has helped me identify how people communicate and what they prioritize. Because of that, I can improve the way I understand and interact with others. I also have this belief that a "perfect type" is a balance of all the traits. So if we are too far into one side of any single trait, we should maybe evaluate ourselves and how that behavior could be impacting us negatively. For example, there's nothing wrong with being introverted, but you still need some kind of regular social interaction. I often have to force myself to make plans, and I always feel better after I do. I like to see personality theory as more of a tool than anything!
It makes sense that people often get NF on the tests. NFs are most likely the ones drawn to personality tests and typology in the first place. Most sensors are like I don’t have time for this or don’t take it seriously. A lot of thinkers would be like what’s the point, this is nonsense, and just point out how flawed it all is.
As an INTP, only did the 16personalites test tho, getting to know it made me feel better about so many insecurities I have been dealing all my life. I am just the way I am (:
Awesome to have Frank James on! Very balanced views of mbti. He doesn't rely on too many stereotypes ( in this interview, at least) and is well versed on the mbti system.
I had never heard of personality types till a few years ago. I also had noticed my tenancy to approach things a certain way and was working to be more balanced in the areas that were making it hard to communicate with others. Once I took the test it was crazy how it described exactly what I already noticed. It mainly helps me to confirm what I already knew and explore how to use that information to improve my communication with other and get out of corners I box myself into.
I think MBTI is a fantastic tool for learning more about the people around you and their thinking processes (and I’m a scientist). The function stack helped me understand so much more about myself and my friends and family. There’s absolutely merit there (more so than the Big 5, imo). Obviously, it’s just a template for someone’s personality and doesn’t cover any of the nuances of upbringing, trauma, etc. And it really doesn’t have a scientific basis, like Frank said. But it sure is helpful!
@@rampirita5643 lol, mbti absolutely helped me to get my family together since we were broken home through the cognitive functions they have explained and i started with that and to have my siblings took the test . mbti helped me understand and get rid of the storm of self identity crisis. now, people like you who reject mbti out right is definetly ignorance, i like big 5, but mbti is more superior, thats the fact. can big 5 helped me to get my family back? or to direct me to be be more aware of my self, since i am an enfj, and the top reason ilove mbti is the test is free and easy to access and understand
@@agnosticevolutionist3567 myself is a happy, optimistic, enthusiastic human being. Charming, outgoing, quick to defend what I believe in. Always looking for the bright side of things, and exploring the world of possibilities. I'm and ENFP.
Mmm I have read somewhere that anti depression drugs gets u off your super ego ,so if that is correct u where some sort of unhealthy estp traits like a mess and violent behaviours all around manipulative ,or was it your shadow the infj like self hating and feeling your not worthy and u just feel everything is wrong and can’t be fixed?
@@AssassienSilently Interesting thought. Through my teens and twenties, it was separation anxiety and deep depression with anger issues, I calmed down mostly in my thirties, but as I hit my forties, the anxiety that had been building since I was twenty five blew up into two full disorders. That's when I went on meds permanently. I not sure I would really say it was an unhealthy version of anything, just mentally unstable. But I don't know the unhealthy side of the types all that well, so who knows.
@@MsJaymeC well as i have read before yes ,each persona type has a healthy and unhealthy traits and its due to the environment alone and each differ from each other as i mentioned the unhealthy estp,infj.also each person has that 4 sides of the mind for u it makes total sense ur istj inspirational after maturity (your thirties) made u think in a calmer way and in slower life pace , I can’t really agree or disagree about the anxiety thing that was building up though
FJ is so cool and interesting when he just be talking out there! he is an intelligent insightful person so i really love listening to him just talking his thoughts. Thank you for this interview!!
Chatting with ideas: a retired person A top producing real estate agent A Vietnam/Korea/Iraq veteran A Professional gambler Andrew’s Therapist A “social media manager”
Hi 👋 Thank you for having Frank on your show 😊 Really love the setting, flow, questions and editing Glad FJ introduced you to us Keep up the good work 💐✨ - ENFP
I've never been to this channel until now (This video popped up on my feed because I'm a Frank James fan.) All I could think the entire time was how this Andrew dude totally exhibits the ISFP vibe: chill and confident in his physicality. Also notice how Frank is leaning in and nodding/affirming (Fe) and Andrew is more hanging back and introspecting (Fi). Both are personable feeler types, but they exhibited their feelings in a different manner. Great interview!
introspecting = Fi? it is called introverted function. He may be thinking, imagining, remembering or feeling. Learn at least some theory first. You cannot put a function inside peoples brain just because FJ said this guy is ISFP. jeez. this guy is clearly Ti user, because every question makes sense and disregards feelings, also he is not really interested, FJ does not give any good arguments, it looks weak. Fi-Ne vs Ti-Se.
10:00 The inflection point for MBTI becoming the omnipresent, multifaceted cultural phenomenon it is today was David Keirsey’s pop-psych book ‘Please Understand Me’ & it’s sequel.
Andrew your awesome! Please do these interview videos again! It will help you finance your life again and we will happily supplrt you on the way. Your interviews opened up whole new perspectives in life for me in the past.
Another religious cult with no objectivity and scientific basis. The more people fall for pseudo nonsense like this the more detached from reality they become whilst thinking they're becoming more "awake" to a cause.
The importance of personality whether is not an exact science it’s understanding others for who they are instead of judging them harshly. No one is perfect and everyone can learn.
Took the MBTI a few months after joining a Fortune 500 company. First goal is for teams to recognize how to work better together based on work preferences. ENTJs are going to be the hard driving project leaders who might need to fire people. INTPs will make sure the technical work is done correctly. ENTPs will generate a lot of ideas and the ESTJs will follow up on the details and schedule. The F types will be in Human Resources. I could go on but it’s easy to see why corporations like it. I found out why I clashed with one certain type and try to stay out of their way!
As an ENTP, can confirm. I was an ops manager at a startup but spent way more time generating ideas on how to improve efficiency, generate revenue, etc. than actually managing my staff. I should really go into consulting..
you didn't "join a fortune 500 company", and your idiotic conviction that personality types would indicate any sort of behaviour is unscientific and non-sensical. how are you lot this empty-headed?
However a person opens the door to looking within,… is a gift. Frank has created the opening, for self evaluation/investigation…. That’s ALL good! Thanks Frank!
This was a good interview. I think it helps that Andrew seems to actually be interested in this topic. I'm not convinced that personality tests are worth our time, but I thought Frank was a good interviewee.
Mbti isnt scientific but you can make deductions about peoples type via the scientific method. Mbti is a measurement of how one makes decisions, and which axes of perception and judgement lead them to those decisions. People tend to have a dominant preference for a specific axis of judgement and a specific axis of perception, and people tend to have a primary function that dominates their decision making.
Im 70 this month and did the test a few times out of the book Please Understand Me in my teens! I was INFJ. Borderline on the I N F but extreme J. So now I learn Im rare and it actually explains a lot for me over my life because making true connections with people just hasnt happened. My opportunty to find greatness are very limited in relationships and jobs. Im a loner since childhood. I tell people im an introvert with a motormouth….at least when I choose to communicate. I dont always feel like it. I need to be triggered by interesting stuff….deeper not superficial chatter. Ive gotten less extreme in the J part which has contributed to my sanity but it took a lot of decades! Being misunderstood is a nonevent. I think that happens to a lot of people. I figured out my narsisstic mom was basically riddled with insecurities in my teens and forgave her for her hard to be with stuff. She could see herself pretty well with therapy and wasnt that bad. Its too bad…she could have been more happy otherwise! And I could have been more understood by this deeply intellegent person.. she did nick name me Sympathy. Instaed of my name Cynthia. Oh….she came because she gave me the book and helped me understand it. The book could be more clear in my opinion. I guess I should have been a teacher. I would have made a great teacher in certain subjects. Art mainly. Yes I had hard to treat depression before I was even 20. Some really dark reality things. Very little denial….if any. Ha ha world could…humans could be better. There are some rotten apples in the animal kingdom too
When you talked about struggling with certain physical objects that's me 100 percent. Anything that I haven't tried to do before or know inside out becomes and overwhelming dread fest where I'm doing something for an hour that would taken someone 5 minutes and become more frustrated with every passing moment. Lol
My partner is an ENFJ and 48 yrs old but he still has to ask at least 50 ppl, including his parents what he should do before he can make a decision. Im an INTJ female and it drives me nuts!! Just do what you want!!
Keep at it Andrew: People on climate change: 26k views Chatting with a fan 33k: views People on covid: 59k views You are on an upward trend! If motivation gets hard, trust the numbers and keep pushing forward!
Hello, I'm Italian but I follow you, with simultaneous translation subtitled. And, of course, I understand English a little bit. However I agree with you, and in my opinion, who says that MbTI is a pseudoscientific idea, well it is usually "extroverted thought" . Anyway, of course, maybe the Mbti system. It is not always precise, it does not enjoy certainty, because it is based on people, and as we know, personalities are not cut perfectly, They evolve for the better and for the worse, continuously, it is unthinkable to have a clear shot. But at least Mbti is a system, which is better than the unconscious idea that anyone can ever make. It is based on data, not bias. It is active, not passive. It is an important tool.
@@scrums4748 Well I was able to learn a lot about my friend I didn't really know about and she confirmed it. It was 99.9% accurate. So when I understood her better, I know better on what to and what not to do and how if they do certain things, it's just their personality so I shouldn't misunderstand them
one of the questions I didn't like was "generally most people can be manipulated" which I believe is true but I believe its saying it like I can take advantage of people and that I will, which I wouldn't.
Yeah idk about it but it’s like Freud era shit where you’re collecting data and observing tendencies but like they both said it depends and if you’re researching this yourself you could create self fulfilling prophecies. To me, the bottom line is that these are just tendencies. You can always become more aware and work to change it. If you want. It’s not like you have curly hair or were born with six toes.
I could have just put my iPad down and started doing something else more productive, but instead I wrote this comment about the interviewer introducing the guest as an “expert”. The expression on his face immediately thereafter is very interesting as it’s unclear to me if he’s comfortable or uncomfortable with that.
This was interesting, I still don't see why people obsess over it so much though to the point of putting it on their resume or bio. Even if there was deep purpose in the test, the way it works feels like it persuades people to answer as who you want to be, and not necessarily who you are and I assume it takes an outside person to interview and answer on your behalf to be accurate. I've taken it each once a year for 4 years now, and have never gotten the same result. I went from INFP to INFJ to INTP and apparently now I'm an ISTP which means I've received every letter except E. I can honestly read the description of any personality result as long as it starts with "I" and they all sound accurate, which makes it feel a lot like a generic horoscope just to make you feel good or give some false sense of confidence or understanding. While it all confuses me, one thing I know for sure is I would quit any job that makes me take this test lol. Also, I was very excited to see another chatting with pop up on the homescreen :)
The reason why you got different results was because of how you answered it. You see when you finish the test it shows the percentage for example 51% introverted and 49% extroverted. This would mean you got an 'I' for introversion. If you answer 1 or 2 questions differently the next time you do it, you might get 49% introverted and 51% extroverted which will make you an 'E'. The same goes for the 3 other letters. Also yes, some personality types has similar traits but if you dive deeper into it, there will be a lot of differences. Sometimes they don't match perfectly but one of my friend matches ISTP perfectly. Everything it says about her is true and there is no other types she is similar to. For example, stubborn, can seem cold, easily bored, struggle with long term commitment, hates when people help her, likes being alone and she likes being alone more than anyone I met except for one of my best friends who's even more introverted. I was able to learn a lot from it and she confirmed it so I know more about what to and what no to do. Also it's better to the sakinorva cognitive functions test than the 16 personality types test website. It's more accurate. So yeah, do that test and it will show you a column of what you are most likely to be. Research deeper into each type and you will see the differences. Don't just read the personality off the main website.
I think the people who obsess over it usually understand the theory beyond the tests and descriptions and they take into consideration all the factors that you mentioned, like most people in the MBTI community agree that the tests aren't accurate. And so they study the theory itself and then they type purely according to it, independant of the tests. My tests, for example, show that I am an ISTP. I, however, know that I am an ISFP.
@@zdenda66alorddandas86 Yep, my test show that I am ISFP when I am INFP in the cognitive functions test and I indeed am INFP Edit: I wouldn't say obsessed, just intrigued.
Yes for sure there is a science to mbti and psychology. It is something I believe in 100 percent and I undercovered a lot about myself as I tested as a infp. I checked three times to be sure lol. And ever since I've been feeling more myself and how I used to be but with more education and less naivity about the world and my purpose as that is why I did the test. I wanted to know why I was here, what's my purpose and why I am the way I am. I was lost and found my northern star. So now I am learning all I can about personality types, mindfulness and psychology as I have always been fascinated by the human brain only to find out I am neurodivergent so literally more unique than I thought I was not just weird and alone lmao. Good insight into a very fundamental and important aspect in life we should all be educated at a young age. 😊
Thanks for having me on your channel, Andrew! Great chatting with you 🙌
Thank you for sharing with us FJ!
this was awesome
You did great and looked alot more like an infj here than in your videos!
Thank you for everything you do, Frank! I’m changing my life and soon the world and you helped a great deal with that. Thank you 🙏 (INFP)
@@donn1473 his older videos showcase him better...
Here he's more confident than in his older videos, though...
MBTI has taught me to be more tolerant of other types of people, instead of seeing some differences as faults. They're just different.
Pretty flawed takeaway... “oh he’s not a dick he’s just an ELKP”
except other people don't think like this and resent the fuck out of you
@@adamfattal468 While I wouldn't conduce any type to "being a dick" - your example could be an accurate depiction of someone realising they have made poor judgements.
Now you can make the argument that the quote in question could be a naive claim, but that would just be a seperate issue of it being poorly rationalised.
The hare isn’t a lazy POS for taking a nap. He’s just built different!
The tortoise changed the game to suit his own strengths.
Same!!!
I love Frank’s videos, but seeing him in a setting like this is also super cool. He’s very intelligent
Just like his motto "stay cool and attractive"
@@xaviermaster1 it’s easy to say that when you’re as good looking as him
Super-cool + very intelligent = classic INFJ [I should know...]
Frank: 😏 No, I don't do spontaneity well. .
LAWF: 😬 So , uh, any last words?
Frank: 🥴 Uh, no; none that I can think of.
I understand that MBTI is not a hard science but I am so glad that I learned about it. It totally changed my perspective, especially how I treat myself. I used to be a more toxic version of INFJ ... I learned MBTI around the same time Frank started his YT channel and I follwed him since then
Its not hard science but the Carl Jung's cognitive functions are which makes it slight more correct compared to other personality systems.
@@wertfasd no, it is as accurate as a horoscope, it has no scientific worth whatsoever. there are no "personality types"
@@jodawgsup so you talking to me being so sure about yourself is not a personality?
Anything else to say mr scientist? ;)
@@wertfasd no, i am disagreeing with you because you are wrong, which might be a part of what you might commonly call a "personality", which has nothing to do with the non-scientific classification of personalities by myers-briggs.
as i said, it is equal to horoscopes.
@@jodawgsup It is different from horoscopes due to the fact that you had to answer a set of questions to reach a certain type. Now whether those set of questions are accurately constructed is another topic to discuss but through these set of questions you yourself are just describing yourself and the personality is just a 'summary' of what could be your personality. Of course this is not entirely scientific as no one peer reviewed the process but it does make sense for someone if he/she tried studying his/her personality type than just assuming the results of his/her type is correct.
Horoscopes on the other hand is just based on your birthday which really doesn't correlate to anything significant.
Or you mean to tell me statistics are unscientific since its basing off of surveys and questionnaires to people possibly picked with bias.
Your turn Mr scientist who didn't really provide any constructive argument so far ;)
I look at MBTI as a tool that you can use to learn more about yourself and other people. Knowing your partner’s type or your child’s type and being aware of that type’s tendencies/ characteristics can be very helpful. Who doesn’t want to be understood?
I used to study and read this stuff non stop many years ago after reading an almost intrusively accurate description of my "type". There is definitely a lot of practical uses for being able to type or roughly type people around you and of course, a lot to be learned about your own strengths and weaknesses. I think its very important to remember however, what the word personality means. It stems from the root "persona" which literally means mask in latin. Your personality isn't really you, its just the mask you put on to engage with the world. But when you take that mask off, thats when life really begins!
Interesting perspective!
Your personality is you as much as your skin and bones, if you put up a 'mask' to engage the world with you can never take it off unless you are literally acting or have taken a heavy dose of psychedelics, even then it lurks in the background.
Your persona encompasses your readiness to share or withhold information from people and is very much the real you whether you feel it as a subconscious force or not.
@@Felix-dx2qw "Your personality is you as much as your skin and bones are you" - I completely agree with this statement. If a little piece of skin falls off is it still you? If you lose a finger is it still you? The two most fundemental misidentifications are with the body, and the mind. The truth is you are neither of those things- something far greater!
@@jaymoney522 You are all those things, the far greater being you talk about is dependant on your biological self to exist and experience life in this dimension. We are the universe experiencing itself as individuals.
I think what you're not identifying is the difference between an individual and the universe they emerged from, there are far greater forces at play within and around us but we are just a piece of that. I think like most people, you fancy the idea that you're a multidimensional 'greater' being or force held in a biological shell, but really we are just the shell until eons have passed and all the energy from us, our minds to our skin along with the trees and stars has returned to it's other, 'greater' state.
i don’t understand what you mean by mask. I try my best to make others feel good and to act nice and stuff. and i’ve taken the advice of “not caring what anyone thinks of you” and it makes for a pretty fucking miserable life. as far as i’m concerned all wear a mask around people all i want, but that “mask” makes others feel great, as well as me.
Dude, seeing FJ on here is the weirdest crossover ever. I used to watch his channel when he only had a handful of viewers. His content was always so relatable and cathartic and educational. Good dude, happy to see him on here :)
Chatting with was always my favorite of your endeavours Andrew. Happy to see this return even if its in somewhat of a new format.
This was the most awkward ending from every videos i’ve watched on youtube. That’s why i love it. It’s entertaining. Always will be supporting you Frank James.
This was a fun watch, Chatting Withs have always been my favourite version of your content. The soothing outdoor setting really made it pleasing to watch this. Keep it up Andrew, hope you come up with more Chatting Withs!
yes i am soothed
Though this not be a hard science, it sure has helped me identify how people communicate and what they prioritize. Because of that, I can improve the way I understand and interact with others.
I also have this belief that a "perfect type" is a balance of all the traits. So if we are too far into one side of any single trait, we should maybe evaluate ourselves and how that behavior could be impacting us negatively. For example, there's nothing wrong with being introverted, but you still need some kind of regular social interaction. I often have to force myself to make plans, and I always feel better after I do.
I like to see personality theory as more of a tool than anything!
couldn't have put any of this better myself! 🧡
it isn't science at all, it is the equivalent of reading a horoscope, just more tedious.
It’s a giant lie
Loved this!
Wish the video was longer... It's so laid back while being so interesting.
Fun video!
The end is great!
Good job you two 👍
They probably ran out of social energy.
@@isuintp45 lol could definitely be...
That's a good description! Yeah, unique interview!
FJ you did an awesome job explaining Myers-Briggs typology. It has helped me understand myself more of the why I do things a certain way.
It makes sense that people often get NF on the tests. NFs are most likely the ones drawn to personality tests and typology in the first place. Most sensors are like I don’t have time for this or don’t take it seriously. A lot of thinkers would be like what’s the point, this is nonsense, and just point out how flawed it all is.
The epic collab we never knew we needed
As an INTP, only did the 16personalites test tho, getting to know it made me feel better about so many insecurities I have been dealing all my life. I am just the way I am (:
Love my INTP’s
Take it again in another year! I was an INFJ and then went to INFP
@@jacoblockemy8512 yep, I always get INFJ or INFP on that test but all of the others say I'm INTP so I still have no idea
Same ❤️
I spent a year in Iceland, amazing country !
This is an unexpected collaboration and I’m so here for it!
Awesome to have Frank James on! Very balanced views of mbti. He doesn't rely on too many stereotypes ( in this interview, at least) and is well versed on the mbti system.
More chatting with's! Great guest - FJ is the man!
I had never heard of personality types till a few years ago. I also had noticed my tenancy to approach things a
certain way and was working to be more balanced in the areas that were making it hard to communicate with others. Once I took the test it was crazy how it described exactly what I already noticed. It mainly helps me to confirm what I already knew and explore how to use that information to improve my communication with other and get out of corners I box myself into.
ok dude your hair is 101/10 we get it
I think MBTI is a fantastic tool for learning more about the people around you and their thinking processes (and I’m a scientist). The function stack helped me understand so much more about myself and my friends and family. There’s absolutely merit there (more so than the Big 5, imo). Obviously, it’s just a template for someone’s personality and doesn’t cover any of the nuances of upbringing, trauma, etc. And it really doesn’t have a scientific basis, like Frank said. But it sure is helpful!
You’re delusional if you think myers-briggs has more merit than big five lmao
@@rampirita5643 lol, mbti absolutely helped me to get my family together since we were broken home through the cognitive functions they have explained and i started with that and to have my siblings took the test . mbti helped me understand and get rid of the storm of self identity crisis.
now, people like you who reject mbti out right is definetly ignorance, i like big 5, but mbti is more superior, thats the fact.
can big 5 helped me to get my family back? or to direct me to be be more aware of my self, since i am an enfj, and the top reason ilove mbti is the test is free and easy to access and understand
Bro.. I legit wanted you to do this for the longest but I kept it in my head it’s crazy to see you actually do it haha
I can agree with the anti-depressants. I'm a mess without them (horrible childhood), and with them, I'm myself.
@@agnosticevolutionist3567 myself is a happy, optimistic, enthusiastic human being. Charming, outgoing, quick to defend what I believe in. Always looking for the bright side of things, and exploring the world of possibilities. I'm and ENFP.
Mmm I have read somewhere that anti depression drugs gets u off your super ego ,so if that is correct u where some sort of unhealthy estp traits like a mess and violent behaviours all around manipulative ,or was it your shadow the infj like self hating and feeling your not worthy and u just feel everything is wrong and can’t be fixed?
@@AssassienSilently Interesting thought. Through my teens and twenties, it was separation anxiety and deep depression with anger issues, I calmed down mostly in my thirties, but as I hit my forties, the anxiety that had been building since I was twenty five blew up into two full disorders. That's when I went on meds permanently. I not sure I would really say it was an unhealthy version of anything, just mentally unstable. But I don't know the unhealthy side of the types all that well, so who knows.
@@MsJaymeC well as i have read before yes ,each persona type has a healthy and unhealthy traits and its due to the environment alone and each differ from each other as i mentioned the unhealthy estp,infj.also each person has that 4 sides of the mind for u it makes total sense ur istj inspirational after maturity (your thirties) made u think in a calmer way and in slower life pace , I can’t really agree or disagree about the anxiety thing that was building up though
Frank gave us the heads up. Thanks for this interview, Andrew! Hope you and yours have a great day.
I have watched your videos for quite a while Frank and I really like them, so don't worry about the comments!
Oh, everyone loves Frank. He doesn't get negative comments, does he? Nah.
Frank is giving me hard-core INFJ vibe
FJ is so cool and interesting when he just be talking out there! he is an intelligent insightful person so i really love listening to him just talking his thoughts.
Thank you for this interview!!
Chatting with ideas:
a retired person
A top producing real estate agent
A Vietnam/Korea/Iraq veteran
A Professional gambler
Andrew’s Therapist
A “social media manager”
Andrew is the only host to ask the person he's interviewing "Is there anything else you want me to ask?"
a XXXP type at its finest!
@Ben collins no I would say an XXXX type definitely
I like listening to Frank talk calmly. Maybe it's because hes so cool and attractive.
Hahaha. Spoken like a Frisky Pony.
Hi 👋 Thank you for having Frank on your show 😊 Really love the setting, flow, questions and editing
Glad FJ introduced you to us
Keep up the good work 💐✨
- ENFP
Subverting expectations, by putting the intro at the end. Love it.
I've never been to this channel until now (This video popped up on my feed because I'm a Frank James fan.) All I could think the entire time was how this Andrew dude totally exhibits the ISFP vibe: chill and confident in his physicality. Also notice how Frank is leaning in and nodding/affirming (Fe) and Andrew is more hanging back and introspecting (Fi). Both are personable feeler types, but they exhibited their feelings in a different manner.
Great interview!
Yup, exactly. Gunna assume yer another INFJ. I left a similar comment in reply to Xara Stewart.
@@theothererik1128 If you're referring to me, I'm an ENFJ. :)
introspecting = Fi? it is called introverted function. He may be thinking, imagining, remembering or feeling. Learn at least some theory first. You cannot put a function inside peoples brain just because FJ said this guy is ISFP. jeez. this guy is clearly Ti user, because every question makes sense and disregards feelings, also he is not really interested, FJ does not give any good arguments, it looks weak. Fi-Ne vs Ti-Se.
10:00 The inflection point for MBTI becoming the omnipresent, multifaceted cultural phenomenon it is today was David Keirsey’s pop-psych book ‘Please Understand Me’ & it’s sequel.
Andrew your awesome! Please do these interview videos again! It will help you finance your life again and we will happily supplrt you on the way.
Your interviews opened up whole new perspectives in life for me in the past.
Omg with FJ?!?! SO COOL... proud of you frank!!
I love Frank James’ videos! It’s so cool to see y’all two collab.
I use MBTI because it's the closest I'm probably ever gonna get to understanding others
- INTP
ENTP here and agreed
Yeah I appreciate my ESTJ counterparts a lot more after understanding mbti a bit better
this stuff is popular because everyone is endlessly fascinated by themselves. If only it was as simple as "I am X, thefore I A, B and C"
Another religious cult with no objectivity and scientific basis. The more people fall for pseudo nonsense like this the more detached from reality they become whilst thinking they're becoming more "awake" to a cause.
Chatting outside is superior to chatting inhouse or in studio.
The importance of personality whether is not an exact science it’s understanding others for who they are instead of judging them harshly. No one is perfect and everyone can learn.
I love this collab!!! So unexpected but so good
Very nice to see you back on this series again
Took the MBTI a few months after joining a Fortune 500 company. First goal is for teams to recognize how to work better together based on work preferences. ENTJs are going to be the hard driving project leaders who might need to fire people. INTPs will make sure the technical work is done correctly. ENTPs will generate a lot of ideas and the ESTJs will follow up on the details and schedule. The F types will be in Human Resources. I could go on but it’s easy to see why corporations like it. I found out why I clashed with one certain type and try to stay out of their way!
As an ENTP, can confirm. I was an ops manager at a startup but spent way more time generating ideas on how to improve efficiency, generate revenue, etc. than actually managing my staff. I should really go into consulting..
you didn't "join a fortune 500 company", and your idiotic conviction that personality types would indicate any sort of behaviour is unscientific and non-sensical. how are you lot this empty-headed?
NFs don't wanna be in a corporation . . .
I watch Frank James all the time. I’m an INFJ too and it helps me understand myself and not be so critical of myself😊
However a person opens the door to looking within,… is a gift. Frank has created the opening, for self evaluation/investigation…. That’s ALL good! Thanks Frank!
happy to see another chatting with Andrew!
This was a good interview. I think it helps that Andrew seems to actually be interested in this topic. I'm not convinced that personality tests are worth our time, but I thought Frank was a good interviewee.
Didn't see this Collab coming, WOW!
Nice moves, Andrew! Keep it up!
Mbti isnt scientific but you can make deductions about peoples type via the scientific method. Mbti is a measurement of how one makes decisions, and which axes of perception and judgement lead them to those decisions. People tend to have a dominant preference for a specific axis of judgement and a specific axis of perception, and people tend to have a primary function that dominates their decision making.
Thanks Andrew! Love FJ! His skits always make this here INFJ laugh and I need all the laughs I can get these days! 👍
Im 70 this month and did the test a few times out of the book Please Understand Me in my teens! I was INFJ. Borderline on the I N F but extreme J. So now I learn Im rare and it actually explains a lot for me over my life because making true connections with people just hasnt happened. My opportunty to find greatness are very limited in relationships and jobs. Im a loner since childhood. I tell people im an introvert with a motormouth….at least when I choose to communicate. I dont always feel like it. I need to be triggered by interesting stuff….deeper not superficial chatter. Ive gotten less extreme in the J part which has contributed to my sanity but it took a lot of decades! Being misunderstood is a nonevent. I think that happens to a lot of people. I figured out my narsisstic mom was basically riddled with insecurities in my teens and forgave her for her hard to be with stuff. She could see herself pretty well with therapy and wasnt that bad. Its too bad…she could have been more happy otherwise! And I could have been more understood by this deeply intellegent person.. she did nick name me Sympathy. Instaed of my name Cynthia. Oh….she came because she gave me the book and helped me understand it. The book could be more clear in my opinion. I guess I should have been a teacher. I would have made a great teacher in certain subjects. Art mainly. Yes I had hard to treat depression before I was even 20. Some really dark reality things. Very little denial….if any. Ha ha world could…humans could be better. There are some rotten apples in the animal kingdom too
Spoken like a very-INFJ-overexplainer-thankyouicanrelatetothat. 🤗 Another indicator: wall-of-text. Peace and long life! 🖖
Learn the cognitive functions and ignore MBTI if you actually want to understand how personality types work.
the big 5 personality test is a much more reliable personality typer
@@loversandlosers Yeah, it's much better for people that are just looking for helpful ways to facilitate their innate proclivities.
Meh. Not a fan of Big5. But it looks great on you. {Sorry - Rodney Dangerfield moment} 🙃🖖
LAHWF is back baby. Great Video Andrew.
Wait I thought this was a Frank James' video interviewing another expert until the intro 😭😭
It's an awesome video! Thank you!
Interesting topic! I'm really glad Chatting With is back. 😊
Frank James's videos helped me a Lot to understand my damaging patterns, over all with His old ones videos about INFJ. So thanks.
Perfect sensor and intuitive interaction, u can cut the awkward tension with a knife
That assessment of Ed Sheeran was spot on!
Frank James is awesome! Definitely subscribe. His videos are hilarious.
the "any last words?" got me worrying for Frank
Andrew you should read The Personality Brokers if you haven't; very interesting although not exactly flattering/favorable history of the MBTI
Frank james reminds me of the guy with the yellow hat. i love that guy
Who is that ?
From Curious George?!
When you talked about struggling with certain physical objects that's me 100 percent. Anything that I haven't tried to do before or know inside out becomes and overwhelming dread fest where I'm doing something for an hour that would taken someone 5 minutes and become more frustrated with every passing moment. Lol
My partner is an ENFJ and 48 yrs old but he still has to ask at least 50 ppl, including his parents what he should do before he can make a decision. Im an INTJ female and it drives me nuts!! Just do what you want!!
I have a friend who is an INTJ and she is married to . . . . . another INTJ !!!? How can that happen???!
Dang, I wish this was longer. Good interview.
I know somebody who's an OBGYN.
Thank you for the upload Andre Whales
I'm an INFJ and my favorite types are Pica and Elite.
Loving the chatting withs and public interviews lately 💪💪💪
Agreed.
Damn. Didn’t expect this. Cool guy
Damn, I’m also a isfp and everytime Andrew smiling, I was also smiling
I'm isfp as well.
@@MeadeSkeltonMusic yup🙌
@@MeadeSkeltonMusic yup🙌
Man this was so chill and fun. Great interview
Great video Andrew. Proud of you!
OPS is really doing a great job trying to make MBTI objective and somewhat scientific.
Keep at it Andrew:
People on climate change: 26k views
Chatting with a fan 33k: views
People on covid: 59k views
You are on an upward trend! If motivation gets hard, trust the numbers and keep pushing forward!
Hello, I'm Italian but I follow you, with simultaneous translation subtitled. And, of course, I understand English a little bit.
However I agree with you, and in my opinion, who says that MbTI is a pseudoscientific idea, well it is usually "extroverted thought" .
Anyway, of course, maybe the Mbti system. It is not always precise, it does not enjoy certainty, because it is based on people, and as we know, personalities are not cut perfectly, They evolve for the better and for the worse, continuously, it is unthinkable to have a clear shot. But at least Mbti is a system, which is better than the unconscious idea that anyone can ever make. It is based on data, not bias. It is active, not passive.
It is an important tool.
Your channel is back man
Frank is such an infp
such a chill interview! love fj
Andrew keeping it real, good job. Greetings from Poland
Get back up on that UA-cam streak! You have talent bro
We love you Andrew. You can do no wrong. Love love LOVE you!!!
People with two first names are always special for some reason
Love both of these guys, epic match up!
17:04:
Andrew: Any last words ?
James: Not that I can think of. Thanks for having me.
Andrew: pulls the trigger.
I just took the test and I got ISFP! lol when i took it 3+ years ago I got INFJ or something similar that presidents had.
keep it up Andrew, loved this video!
Talks about Andrew's smile
Andrew smiles
Thanks. Maybe after years of struggling I will finally understand who am I and where do I fit. Now i am experiencing my worst mental state, so far.
This has helped tons of people, i recommend you to take the test and watch other people with your types experiences, makes you feel less alone!
it really doesn’t matter
@@scrums4748 Well I was able to learn a lot about my friend I didn't really know about and she confirmed it. It was 99.9% accurate. So when I understood her better, I know better on what to and what not to do and how if they do certain things, it's just their personality so I shouldn't misunderstand them
Diamonds are formed under pressure bro 🙏
@@parkourandfreerunning4214 I don't think simplifying people is a great way to understand them
one of the questions I didn't like was "generally most people can be manipulated" which I believe is true but I believe its saying it like I can take advantage of people and that I will, which I wouldn't.
Nice. Knowing is not the excuse. It’s the opening.
Yeah idk about it but it’s like Freud era shit where you’re collecting data and observing tendencies but like they both said it depends and if you’re researching this yourself you could create self fulfilling prophecies. To me, the bottom line is that these are just tendencies. You can always become more aware and work to change it. If you want. It’s not like you have curly hair or were born with six toes.
I could have just put my iPad down and started doing something else more productive, but instead I wrote this comment about the interviewer introducing the guest as an “expert”. The expression on his face immediately thereafter is very interesting as it’s unclear to me if he’s comfortable or uncomfortable with that.
Infjs take a moment to warm up, they are kind of uncomfortable with flattery, also confidence issues
Interesting video Andy, U got my like! I reckon collabs like this are brilliant, keep it up like I know u will!
I love Frank's laugh
This was interesting, I still don't see why people obsess over it so much though to the point of putting it on their resume or bio. Even if there was deep purpose in the test, the way it works feels like it persuades people to answer as who you want to be, and not necessarily who you are and I assume it takes an outside person to interview and answer on your behalf to be accurate. I've taken it each once a year for 4 years now, and have never gotten the same result. I went from INFP to INFJ to INTP and apparently now I'm an ISTP which means I've received every letter except E.
I can honestly read the description of any personality result as long as it starts with "I" and they all sound accurate, which makes it feel a lot like a generic horoscope just to make you feel good or give some false sense of confidence or understanding. While it all confuses me, one thing I know for sure is I would quit any job that makes me take this test lol.
Also, I was very excited to see another chatting with pop up on the homescreen :)
The reason why you got different results was because of how you answered it. You see when you finish the test it shows the percentage for example 51% introverted and 49% extroverted. This would mean you got an 'I' for introversion. If you answer 1 or 2 questions differently the next time you do it, you might get 49% introverted and 51% extroverted which will make you an 'E'. The same goes for the 3 other letters. Also yes, some personality types has similar traits but if you dive deeper into it, there will be a lot of differences. Sometimes they don't match perfectly but one of my friend matches ISTP perfectly. Everything it says about her is true and there is no other types she is similar to. For example, stubborn, can seem cold, easily bored, struggle with long term commitment, hates when people help her, likes being alone and she likes being alone more than anyone I met except for one of my best friends who's even more introverted. I was able to learn a lot from it and she confirmed it so I know more about what to and what no to do. Also it's better to the sakinorva cognitive functions test than the 16 personality types test website. It's more accurate. So yeah, do that test and it will show you a column of what you are most likely to be. Research deeper into each type and you will see the differences. Don't just read the personality off the main website.
I think the people who obsess over it usually understand the theory beyond the tests and descriptions and they take into consideration all the factors that you mentioned, like most people in the MBTI community agree that the tests aren't accurate. And so they study the theory itself and then they type purely according to it, independant of the tests.
My tests, for example, show that I am an ISTP. I, however, know that I am an ISFP.
@@zdenda66alorddandas86 Yep, my test show that I am ISFP when I am INFP in the cognitive functions test and I indeed am INFP
Edit: I wouldn't say obsessed, just intrigued.
Yes for sure there is a science to mbti and psychology. It is something I believe in 100 percent and I undercovered a lot about myself as I tested as a infp. I checked three times to be sure lol. And ever since I've been feeling more myself and how I used to be but with more education and less naivity about the world and my purpose as that is why I did the test. I wanted to know why I was here, what's my purpose and why I am the way I am. I was lost and found my northern star. So now I am learning all I can about personality types, mindfulness and psychology as I have always been fascinated by the human brain only to find out I am neurodivergent so literally more unique than I thought I was not just weird and alone lmao. Good insight into a very fundamental and important aspect in life we should all be educated at a young age. 😊
glad the chattings are back
I love FJs chest hair please show more of it on your channel