"He was absolutely sick of it" | Rob Dorsett analyses Gareth Southgate's decision to step down

[@markellis6413]

Lineker & Shearer were not personal with their criticism of Southgate. Utter drivel. They were critical of the tactics as were everyone else...

[@paulbrand1973]

I whole heartedly agree

[@galvo00]

This lad should look a bit closer to home when questioning Shearer and Lineker. What about Neville or does that not suit?

[@AW_77]

Lineker and Shearer are a pair of foul mouthed trolls.

[@_WeVibe]

theyre pundits, its their job, its not personal is it, theyre actually cautious with what they say being ex players and all that

[@mus3504]

Shearer is after Southgate job and the £5m a year salary 😆

[@mjl2904]

How was the criticism from Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer personal? Did the say he had a big nose or just say that the style was not pleasing on the eye and doesn’t suit the players

[@IndyAndyJones29]

@@mjl2904 Agreed they weren’t rude just honest and it’s how the entire country felt. They are also fans that wanted and expected better

[@robertelliott2216]

They hurt his feelings.......poor Gareth.

[@davidkrapenshitz668]

😂

[@SuperBobsey]

Champions league club 😂

[@marlowemarlowe4893]

Exactly. Not once did I hear Gary Linker or Alan Shearer comment on Gareth Southgate's big nose.

[@vrzM8]

Rob was the kid who reminded the teacher there was homework

[@irielion3748]

And that's why he's on TV and you're not.

[@martinrutley-wk5ds]

@@vrzM8 you were the kid who sat at the back licking the windows.

[@Kevin-lf4xx]

Southgate worked miracles with England , the basic reason England will never win a tournament is they don’t have a creative midfield who can dictate the temp of the game .You can have all the best attacking midfielders like Bellingham, Foden but there is nobody who is comfortable receiving the ball , holding it and passing it .

[@wemmas5724]

@@Kevin-lf4xx 😂😂😂 I can’t believe you wrote that

[@ShajiMathew-dx8by]

@@martinrutley-wk5ds you must be the one sniffing all the glue then

[@nataniela5256]

shearer and links were not personal about gareth just honest

[@paulschnyder938]

links baby

[@rayfinkle2805]

Links . You are a helmet like links

[@funkhouse5936]

Gary Lineker and Shearer criticised his style of play, thats what pundits do.
They have a job to do and not about friendship. Absolute rubbish and nonsense by Rob

[@JCzzzzz]

You can criticize and yet still offer support to the manager. 2 finals and a semi-final in 4 tournaments is more than respectable results. When English fans get results, they want flair. When they don't have results, they cry foul. English fans are just toxic

[@thenoodlebuddy]

Yeah agreed if Southgate is crying about that then explains why he kept playing Kane when he's useless, because he didn't want to hurt lil baby Kanes feelings 🍼

[@Arizzmetic]

Poor Southgate, 5 million a year

[@ovoj]

Jealousy

[@Arizzmetic]

@@ovoj perspective

[@ovoj]

@@Arizzmetic envy

[@edwardm250]

5 million at year!!!

[@redmed10]

Yeah and now its not worth taking the crap. He had 2 years left on his contract he could have sat it out. Or got a payout if he was sacked. How many of these rich managers do that when they are not happy.

[@Razormiller]

"Lineker and Shearer who were quite personal in their criticism of him" - Give me a break. They absolutely werent personal. In fact they went out of their way to not be personal. The praised him loads of times as a great guy. They reiterated time and time again that it wasnt personal. And that they felt bad being critical. They made FAIR criticisms over Englands performances(not results). To label those as personal is an absolute lie by Sky/Dorsett. And if Gareth thinks they were personal then he is simply wrong.
You cant rightly complain about Gareth getting unfair abuse(which he has gotten) while at the same time unfairly smearing Lineker and Shearer - And setting them up for unfair abuse.

[@fieryjack9243]

he is not premier league manager material tbh

[@paulschnyder938]

No English manager is tbh

[@albertbrammer9263]

Man Utd by Jan. 😂😂

[@monoxidepoisonwolf6124]

@albertbrammer9263 definitely he's a coach not a manager,Glazers will have him as a string muppet

[@GTFCMariner]

@@paulschnyder938 talking utter shite

[@leehenry5764]

​@@monoxidepoisonwolf6124United are not woke enough for him😂

[@SMlFFY85]

What is this nonsense about Lineker and Shearer getting personal with the criticism, no they weren't, they were just pointing out the clear and obvious, nothing they said was even remotely controversial.

[@ithshamhussain5872]

Lineker and shearer were always respectful with Gareth they criticised the performances fairly

[@Larry4life]

You probably haven't watched the games live with shearer on commentary.

[@Pipboy83]

The fans got fed up of his negative style of play, his stubbornness on team selections and lack of subs. The fans and pundits screaming out for players to be played, and when they did come on they made a massive difference. He played Kane knowing he wasn't 100% fit (Weakening us, like playing with 10 men the whole tournament)
Yeah two finals great, but with these players they should be winning cups. no one remembers 2nd place.

[@user-kf6nf5zm3g]

Rob Dorset is a disgrace on his so called analysis of why Southgate resigned!
He should’ve resigned after that shocking performance against Italy last euros!

[@HarryKanee]

Over reacting as usual when England back to under performing this is on you lot

[@leewainwright3526]

can't stand rob Dorsett smug opinionated little man he is

[@SFM35.8]

Hes being a puppet here, like all the sky sports staff

[@mus3504]

8 years as a manger failure after failure over £40m salary and no trophy !!!!! Brits love a loser 😆

[@ShedProductions-qj7xq]

Trying to imagine being a grown adult and thinking I should call my UA-cam handle Harry Kane. 😂😂😂

[@pauloldman804]

Lineker & Shearer were not personal with their criticism of Southgate If he cant take any criticism then he has no desire to improve and shouldnt be doing the job. Bottomline - although a very decent man he seemed far too pally with the players which meant he couldnt make he cold decisions needed when they under-performed. A cautious looking person who probably didnt have the imagination to beat really clever technical teams.

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

Southgate had no talent as a player and even less as a manager.

[@MrJamesEPBailey]

Rob Dorsett is so over the top!! 😂 people critique performances and then it’s abuse??

[@waynehiggins7950]

@@MrJamesEPBailey There's constructive criticism and then there's being loudly booed at every game spreading negativity through the team like a cancer.

[@bushmonster1702]

he must have drank the snowflake juice.

[@eldonpaul8761]

Don't forget to mention he was the highest paid international manager worldwide

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Irrelevant

[@pendafen7405]

Tbh until I heard this, I'd assumed national management or playing salaries weren't high, relatively. You always hear about how players only get a few grand per international game, which is still generous considering what they do for a living, but peanuts compared to their grotesque and palatial club wages. One supposes that managing England men is an all-year full-time thankless and unglamourous job that needs incentivising, though.

[@karlbabst2484]

that is a mistake on the football associations part! You don't pay a International manager that much . Money is not equal to success

[@stevenjoseph6048]

Any abuse he's received that has crossed the line in terms of sending death threats and threatening his family is too much.
However some of the criticism he's received is absolutely fair. The type of football he's played was shite and somehow made a team like ours look like underdogs lol. Struggling to make the finals with the teams we've played is embarrassing

[@HarryKanee]

Switzerland drew to Germany Slovenia took Portugal to pens Netherlands dominated France what's embrassing 💀

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

@@HarryKaneeThe 1st mistake was letting your profile pic Kane play. Now let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and say he’s genuinely injured. Well if he was he clearly ain’t recovered from it and looked so off the pace. Southgate made wrong decisions that could’ve easily helped him. E.g not taking a fit LB? A RB in midfield? So much was wrong in this tournament despite us getting to the final. He stepped down at the right time

[@Thomas-zs5wt]

first switzerland were a decent side germany were a hyped team supported by fans, portugal won on pens because, even though i like ronaldo, he was way too stubborn to let anybody else shoot we had the players to win the euro's we had around 5 attackers on the bench who never played plus we just played defensive ​@HarryKanee

[@Allegro_Giusto]

​@HarryKanee Using other teams as examples doesn't alleviate Southgate of his own responsibilities and errors. It's completely irrelevant and surface level thinking.

[@daveclarke1335]

What death threats?

[@NI-ld2iu]

Rob talking crap. What did Shearer & Linekar say that was personal?

[@JustBens]

So no-one is allowed to pick up on obvious errors such as leaving Kane on with 10s who want to occupy the same space while a goal keeper who keeps kicking it long to no-one.

[@andrewpearson5504]

"Know your limitations" is something one needs to keep in mind. The level of talent that man had at his disposal and the results he produced is, honestly, shameful. We were sick of the product he managed on the football field.

[@OoooHan]

ya he Limited England to a semi final and 2 finals

[@Dalemail-zc8xg]

@@OoooHan Nice to know ur a cuck who likes to watch others successes

[@charliechaz1982]

Shameful? He's the most successful since Sir Alf Ramsay. Going out in first or second round would be shameful. We've had much better teams that have gone out much earlier

[@rmacfarlane1]

Think you need to understand better what 'shameful' means

[@andrewpearson5504]

@@charliechaz1982 He had dream draws in 4 tournaments. Every time he came up against a team that were around us in the rankings, he lost. And he usually lost those matches because he was outcoached. The level of talent he had at his disposal almost ensured our success. The England of the last ten years is nothing like the England of 20 years ago. The money in the Premier League, the money that has been spent on sporting academy's in England is off the charts. England won the Rugby World Cup a while ago, the Cricket World Cup in 2019, they were second at the Olympics in Rio. Southgate has produced terrible football and he's not a world class coach. He comes up against the Brazil teams that knocked us out in some of those World Cups and we're out in the round of 16.

[@JDNiNeT7]

NEVER HEARD SO MUCH DRIVEL IN MY LIFE! And He just said exactly what The FA like "A Politician" This guy must be getting paid to talk so positively about Southgate and accuse English pundits with false comments, absolutely terrible journalism 🤔🤦‍♂️🤬

[@Froge0]

And we were sick of the crap football and nepotism with his team selections

[@reyzahra]

Except he's brought through new players at every chance. Hes even been ruthless (just like everyone wanted) and hes still being accused of 'Nepotism' Each tournament squad has been different and his tactics have also evolved with every tournament. The truth is that England fans don't know what they want. They want think they want to win immediately and play Pep football. But the truth is that method very rarely works. England fans forget that we only have the selection of talent that ENGLAND PRODUCES, we cant have talent come in like a club side.
He has been the most successful manager since 1966 and England fans need to grow up. All English fans want to do, is get drunk, have an excuse for a fight and continue this delusion of expecting to win, even when there are teams with better depth and pedigree out there, and then being aggressive and outraged when they dont get the trophy handed to them on a platter.

[@glasshalffull8471]

Yes, he put me off with the kneeling and crap and many other I know, I don't need to knowing my national teams manager is anti or pro any particular political stance, he would say it wasn't political but in reality it was.

[@Cymru85]

I've heard all this nonsense for decades with foreign and English managers.
You might regret seeing Southgate leave if its like the days before him.

[@sammyhill69]

​@@glasshalffull8471 what you describe has nothing to do with politics, but has everything to do with morality. Do better.

[@RevealedFilms]

@@glasshalffull8471don’t really care as long as they win but they can’t. You could have Pep Guardiola and Klopp as his assistant manager and England would still lose. Average players when compared to others across the world.

[@lestrem11]

A manager who played his mate ( Kane ) in every Euro game even though he was awful deserves to be sacked. Allowing him to resign was correct as he was a thoroughly nice guy, by all accounts.

[@boristhespider2]

@@lestrem11 correct and where do nice guy's finish?

[@dondamon4669]

You must not of been around before Southgate

[@TimThornburg]

@@lestrem11 it was tough to see Kane starting with Ollie and Ivan Toney on the bench.

[@cdog857]

Nonsense comment. Mount, Phillips, Sterling, Henderson, Maguire, Rashford and many others, all apparently 'Southgates mates' who were ruthlessly dropped when he no longer felt they were the best fit for the team.
Kane has been poor this tournament and he hasn't looked fit, no doubt. But this was a hard team to play up front for. Ollie 'the saviour' Watkins touched the ball 0 times between the 72nd and 88th minutes, so let's not act like we were leaving a world class striker on the bench.

[@lestrem11]

@@cdog857 Are you Kane’s mummy? He wasn’t even mediocre, he was absolute shite every game and was an embarrassing shambles. Opinion is one thing and stupidity is something else.

[@raphaelfrank6370]

My week has been made and it’s only Tuesday.

[@MarlonAnthony]

"Yeah but he got us to 2 finals and a WC semi final!" His job is to win trophies, not to just participate in finals, he failed, it's as simple as that. What job would you deserve to keep if you continued to fail on your expectations?

[@12Hydrocarbon]

Insisting to play unfit Harry Kane for the entire tournament just because he’s the England record goalscorer, is unforgivable. We could’ve won this tournament with the right lineup.

[@steviehope7718]

Well said 👍

[@tombartram7384]

Hear hear

[@leemartin3429]

😂 This is absolutely hilarious

[@twelvemeister]

that is the most sucky up to gareth ive seen yet n ive seen a bit . really over the top wasnt it

[@Sam-gw5pl]

‘Wasn’t getting the credit he deserves’? What? Being 20 seconds away from being knocked out by Slovakia?

[@andym9571]

@@Sam-gw5pl But they didnt. They were also a couple of minutes away from extra time in the final and penalties when they could well have won.

[@JCzzzzz]

Get your facts right!
Even if England lost to Slovenia, they will still have progressed to the Round of 16. Let's see how appreciative you are when England get knocked out of tournaments in the Round of 16 and quarterfinals with your next manager

[@daleviker5884]

@@JCzzzzz You might want to learn the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia before you embarrass yourself further. And England might well get knocked out of the R/16 in future because statistically they are overdue to revert to the norm of playing a big team in the R/16. Southgate always got knocked out as soon as he faced a team near England in the rankings, just like previous managers. He was just dead-arsed lucky to get easy draws that postponed those games till late in his tournaments. He achieved nothing more than other managers, despite having the equal of any English squad and facing much weaker opposition.

[@JCzzzzz]

@@daleviker5884 my bad on the Slovenia & Slovakia thingy.
Southgate always gets England knocked out once England faces an opponent near England's standards?
Well, isn't it obvious? A good team tend to only lose to teams around their own standards. At least he doesn't get eliminated by Iceland type of opponents!
They beat Netherlands in Euros 2024 and beat Germany and Croatia in Euro 2020. Whereas England finished bottom of the group in 2014 behind teams like Costa Rica and Uruguay. Getting thumped by Germany 4-1 in 2010 World Cup. Losing to Iceland and also unable to beat Russia or Slovakia in Euros 2016.
These are the typical England performance in major tournaments before Southgate.
Criticize all you want and yes you guys will revert to the norm and you deserve it

[@thomsonfly645k]

@@JCzzzzz And the thing is, Germany, Croatia and the Netherlands are teams which have eaten England alive in previous competitions or stopped them qualifying for them. I'm pretty sure Roy Hodgson's England got beat by both a Dutch team with Sneijder, RVP and Robben AND the one that didn't qualify for Euro 2016. So it's plainly obvious that under Southgate England could beat better teams than before him.

[@gs8494]

Shearer and Lineker have said numerous time that Southgate is a decent man, but they quite rightly criticised his (lack of) tactics and team selections, his limitations cost us 2 potential European Championships.

[@barmy_irooni]

Oh I forget that both linkeker & Shearer had amazing managerial careers….NOT!
Don’t give up your day job! 👍

[@gs8494]

@@barmy_irooni Not sure what your point is, they are pundits and quite rightly questioned the tactics and team selections as did almost everybody.
Stick to your day job.

[@johanrijhkelaar3627]

That’s all part of the game Rob when players or managers get booed for underperforming, all comes with a cost and Southgate deserves the criticism and move on , you get the accolades when doing well and the crap when not, that’s how football goes

[@tommollett6710]

I disagree the criticism was personal. It was purely football related.

[@georgebrothers4389]

He got criticised by pundits he knows based on poor performances. Honestly can't believe that happened to him. Thoughts and prayers

[@leemartin3429]

😂

[@lexkanyima2195]

But it was too much

[@wemmas5724]

@@lexkanyima2195what was too much? They didn’t say anything about Southgate as a person

[@lexkanyima2195]

@@wemmas5724 well it is for Southgate

[@wemmas5724]

@@lexkanyima2195 what was too much?

[@BarryCook-qo4qz]

Dorset another yes man, soon be on the FA panel, people not abusing him personally, just the tactics shocking.

[@stevenjohncollins3847]

Alvaro morata has said it england arent good enough as a team to win a title as he also said the final was very easy for spain

[@andy2172]

Nice, classy guy, clearly....

[@waynehiggins7950]

@@andy2172 Not as classy as England fans thinking they should be better than every footballing nation on earth, with nothing to back it up.

[@andy2172]

@@waynehiggins7950 nothing wrong with supporting your team genius. No England fan says what you are saying. Your ignorance is impressive.

[@waynehiggins7950]

@@andy2172 Listen to all the people claiming we have some god given right to be rolling teams over on the way to a trophy and you'll see it's disrespectful and arrogant. A true supporter supports their team in good times and bad. And for the record, there's plenty of people saying what I'm saying.

[@peterburry2531]

@@waynehiggins7950 A few big-mouths might be saying that. Most of us know we're crap

[@12Hydrocarbon]

I hope next coach doesn’t pick Kane.

[@mattthompson4836]

@5:37 --- more gas lighting here. Of course it was terrible to lose to Iceland in the last 16. But by the journo's own reckoning, at that point "England were in the mire." Well guess what happened in this tournament with Southgate in charge and a MUCH BETTER England team??? Slovakia played us off the park in at the same point in the tournament as Iceland did - the last 16. And if it weren't for a Bellingham overhead kick deep into injury time, we would have been knocked out by Slovakia. With this team we have now that would have been a far worse result than the Iceland one! So don't use this tournament as a marker to suggest how far we've come. Every single time we have been underdogs under Gareth we have lost. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[@thomsonfly645k]

Well of course when England have been underdogs they have lost, that's what being the underdog is, the team more likely to lose. Under previous England managers, even when England were the favourites, they would lose or draw.

[@reisschancellor9753]

RESPECT. APPRECIATE. GRATEFUL. Gentlemen. Best coach ever. He made the right calls about Watkins and Palmer for both games. Class act.

[@alexanderpostings7208]

Agreed

[@JonnyMc61]

Those England fans in the grounds had paid big money to watch awful football, only saved by moments of magic from Bellingham, and Watkins. They had every right to boo and criticise him. Players that are oosing talent being coached to play negative, park the bus football. Picking unfit players, while top quality strikers left on the bench. Putting players out of position (Trippier and Trent). Glad he's gone!

[@unknowng888]

Who is this Rob fella? Mr Irrelevant imo. We as a nation need to stop being offended for other people. I’ll tell you what we’re sick of: failure. Why is this Rob fella acting like Gareth is a victim?! Gareth has been paid handsomely for 8 years, had a wealth of talent at his disposal, and got the lucky side of the draw EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! Good riddance if you ask me. Gareth is a puppet for the FA. We need a maverick like Brian Clough to take us to glory.

[@Joolstb303]

For over £4 million a year, he was sick of what exactly...

[@Larry4life]

You idiotic fans harassing him. Would live to see what you've done in management

[@kyleday5026]

Money is not everything

[@barmy_irooni]

You & your numpty view that’s what! 👍

[@user-gi9tm7kl9b]

The whole tournament England left hand side is totally non existent and no balls to replace injured,tired and off form players.

[@ste4392]

I'm not being funny, but the criticism from Linekar and Shearer wasn't personal and he can want as much praise as he wants, but when you lose in the same way every time you play a top side, you deserve criticism. The man never evolved

[@jasonbell2619]

I love Gareth Southgate. How he nurtured belief into the team. The only problem I had with him was sticking with Kane when he obviously wasn't what we needed up front. Too slow and didn't match the attacking wings. He was kinda obsolete most of the time. And that's coming from a Spurs fan who adores what Kane has done for us.
All the best to the future Gareth.
You have my respect.

[@HarryKanee]

Kane had a back injury towards the end of the season plus Many injuries before the tournament it was never gonna be easy

[@leemartin3429]

​@@HarryKanee😂 Of course he did, Excuses 😂 why would kane play then and why would Southgate pick him?

[@paulschnyder938]

Taking Kane and playing him every match was a waste of space and Southgate was responsible

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

@@leemartin3429ask that about any player that’s ever played through an injury

[@BFEentertainment9278]

@@doubletapthatdotty4597 UA-cam is plagued by videos of Kane diving. A real player doesn't have the time to moan on the floor, a real player is always busy being focused to keep trying and creating opportunities out of thin air. He's not cursed, he's just a useless player over-hyped by the media because they need to create a sense that England is great to keep the audience engaged despite it being very bad, dirty, 0 sportsmanship and dysfunctional like their fans, economy and politics🤣🤣🤣

[@ryrilo5078]

Does that mean Ben White is going to return?

[@305Solo]

Shearer and Lineker were professional not personal with their criticism of Southgate and England…. Just like you and all the other press who reported 2-3 days in advance that England would switch to a back 3 for the Switzerland game were carrying out what you’d class are your professional duties - much to his annoyance according to reports.
If you’re going to name names, take a look at yourself too.

[@wilseph1]

He reached his ceiling. Clearly wasn't the guy to take England to the top.

[@andym9571]

He was at the top !

[@andym9571]

He was at the top !

[@markusleitner8313]

Southgate is not a winner. He makes his team work football and not play it. No chance to manage a top club team.

[@MarkInOxford]

He criticises the media for daring to criticise Southgate and England. He calls out Lineker and Shearer for things they didn’t actually say, then he calls Southgate a hindrance to England. This is what journalism has come to.

[@ronniepye]

1:46 you've never seen before? Taylor? Venables? Hodgson? The issue isn't the manager, it's our toxic supporters fuelled by the toxic media, always has been and always will be.

[@davidc4571]

Did your team fail once again, then why not blame the fans for complaining!

[@luckyducky7166]

There are plenty of pundits on YT who analyse the tactics in a very professional way. Far better it seems than Southgate and his assistants. Wake up.

[@trojanhorse6029]

Yeah, I remember just before EURO 96 and Italia 90, the toxic fans and media were in full force. The toxic fanbase led by a toxic media.

[@jordanboss4646]

He will be a good manager in the championship but no team in the premier league

[@jp3622]

Why didn’t Southgate just try and win the euros? He had nothing to lose. So strange

[@bushmonster1702]

it's not in his DNA to be a front foot manager.

[@jp3622]

@@bushmonster1702 he England manager needs to understand that the team is playing for the country not some lutte woke fairy club

[@thomsonfly645k]

He tried, but this time Spain were just too good for anyone to beat.

[@TyroneMooselips]

The best manager the world has ever seen! How he kept losing matches & back to back finals! Something that has never been done before! A true legend to the game, the one, the only, Gareth Fartgate

[@leewainwright3526]

You can't stop fan's booing whether you agree or not the facts remain he can't get us over the line you.get nothing for coming second we need a manager who can make big calls who's tactically astute Southgate isn't that man

[@angelabrooke5059]

You will be proved wrong.

[@jonathanh9592]

We had some good years. Some amazing memories. Incredibly good chances to win. I just don't think the grass is greener. I really don't. He had to go, but let's not forget the years prior to him getting knocked out in group stages, losing to Iceland, and barely qualifying. I feel despite some of his tactical woes, we really may end up missing the years we had something to cheer for. The grass is not always greener. Good players without good togetherness will lose every time.

[@waynehiggins7950]

@@leewainwright3526 No one can get England over the line until the fans and media get off their back.

[@johnbeagley8162]

Guess what fella.?
I was sick of him picking same team every game.
Boring groundhog day tactics.
Lucky to qualify out of group into easy half of competition.
Then we play a world class side in final and surprise surprise we get beat.
Glad he is gone

[@myshowcase8818]

This sounds like a re-run of the end of Moyes at West Ham. A manager setting up negative football to grind out a result isn't going to win many friends and won't be forgiven by fans without the compensation of a trophy at the end of the campaign.

[@chuckc7815]

Moyes won the Europa Conference League

[@daleviker5884]

Two totally different scenarios. Moyes did not have that sort of talent at his disposal. Southgate had the EPL, La Liga and Bundesliga POTY in the his attack, but sent his team out to play like Stoke. He was a fraud who made England much less than the sum of its parts. The defining image of Southgate's regime should be the final few minutes of the first half against Slovenia, when the crowd was booing the team, and every outfield player was raising their arms in frustration to teammates and the crowd after every sideways and backwards pass, to let them know that they (the players) had no freakin' idea what Southgate was wanting from them. That five-minute near mutiny got no press that I saw, but it spoke volumes.

[@imbyl6087]

Playing Kane despite his performances & obvious unfit state were really really poor decisions.

[@paulgeraghty1448]

Rob Dorset. Oliver Holt. At least two journalists living in a different world.

[@rowly1985]

It wasn't that "one moment" in the Italy game. The Italy game compounded all the frustrations fans had from the Croatia semi final previous to it - no subs until the 75th+ minute, withdrawing into defence, picking out of form players etc.
He then did it all again against France in Qatar.
He should have gone in 2021 and then again in 2022. He outstayed his welcome by a long way. Him wasting our time playing Kane for 60 mins on Sunday was emblematic of his time as England manager.

[@paulwarrington1966]

The guy got paid a total of 40 million pounds! to consistently set the team up in a way most people with a football brain could see wasn’t right or working. Playing players out of position, playing unfit players out of ‘loyalty’ and very little natural sense of how to adapt, respond, or inspire the players as games progressed. No charisma, no natural warmth or get up and go. I can’t listen to ‘but he was a gentleman with dignity’ anymore. Yeah great. How did that help? Out of his depth tactically from day one. Very little sympathy.

[@mikepearson3226]

The idea that Lineker and Shearer went after Southgate personally is nonsense. Both of them wanted the best for England and the discussion revolved around the tactical aspects and use of substitutes. If Gareth thinks the job is easier at club level I have news for him - it is worse!!!

[@AnaMaria-lc4se]

So this guy is saying that in the extra time vs italy england were dominant and just by making like 2 substitutes could've won the game and call's the penalty a lotery , dude what the heck are you saying england had only 34% possession and the pens are not a lotery because you just qualified with Switzerland and all the england penalty shooters were almost perfect so it's mostly hard work and concentration

[@TheGreatVivek7]

English teams are overrated. They were lucky to get to the final.

[@Urme1975]

That’s the nature of England supporters in general. Worship you when you’re doing well, hate you when you’re not.

[@mrD66M]

England supporters are hated around much of Europe and further afield for a reason.. don't know how to enjoy themselves and be respectful while supporting their team, way too tribal

[@bladechild2449]

7:20 this rhetoric is nonsense. Sven was up against actual competition then. A mega Brazil side that knocked us out. Southgate has failed mostly because he couldn't win anything with barely any good teams to stand against us.

[@unsilencedchaos2112]

We need to stop this whole thing saying “the personal criticism he got”. Especially from pundits, I think everyone who’s criticised Gareth, it’s solely been down to his tactics. People are criticising him as a person. He seems like a really nice person. But the fact is this tournament we have not played good football. We have not played sustainable footballl either. Every knock out game this Tournament we have basically played moments football. Where one moment of brilliance has saved the players and Southgate from humiliation. The only real good thing Southgate himself has done is the substitutes who make an incredible impact but then the next game he doesn’t start them.

[@tgenders]

Exciting players playing boring football is down to the manager. That's the only criticism he's faced.

[@adcashmo]

Who can do a better job? People are completely ungrateful and also I would add extremely entitled.

[@jonathanh9592]

I completely agree. England has never lacked talent, they lacked a sense of team and togetherness. He brought that. Sure, his tactics at times can be defensive and has got it wrong on varying occasions, but he brought our belief back. Before him, we could lose to anyone. We may look back at these years as really good ones, years where we could go to the pub and cheer for our team. Just because we have world class players doesn't mean we win tournaments. If the next manager doesn't keep this same dynamic we could be back to square 1 not even qualifying.

[@stefjevtic]

@@adcashmo agree

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

​@@jonathanh9592😂 you don't have world class players

[@phoenixrose1192]

@@lenawagenfuehr53 Yes, we do. That’s why most of them play in Premier league clubs as well as the Bundesliga and La liga. Quit trolling, you’re not even good at it. 😂

[@adcashmo]

@@jonathanh9592 exactly! we will look back at these golden times and regret that we were so cruel to Southgate.

[@dondamon4669]

When was Lineker and Shearer personal about Southgate?? When people go on air and just make stuff up they should be forced to make sn apology on air!! You can't just make stuff up for attention! Its a disgrace really and I'd be furious if people just made stuff up to millions of people!! They were NEVER personal about Harry Kane!! This person should never be allowed on tv again!!!

[@Kes_Gaming]

'Personal' is incorrect. Southgate got alot of criticism but never was it personal. A lot was banter, no one threatened his life or discriminated him. Snowflakes ❄️

[@roywilkinson2078]

Southgate isn't an international level coach/manager and he isn't a premier league level coach/manager.

[@shaunkellyrepsforbensham1170]

How were Shearer and Lineker personal ? Some right soft shites out there these days mind.

[@MikeLyson-b9z]

You had no chance beating Spain regardless of the manager. Big mistake pressuring him out. All downhill again from here for England. Good!

[@albertbrammer9263]

Sick of the criticism?
Well, he kept playing negative football. When the best teams in the Prem are attacking. It is like playing like West Ham with a team good enough to challenge for the title.

[@OoooHan]

England's most successful manager. The lack of gratitude is astonishing... They had literally done nothing in about 50 years before him.. And they will be back to doing nothing with their over hyped players

[@guitarreilly]

Absolutely bang on. Our toxic fan base is so delusional and entitled it’s infuriating. We’ll look back on this period as a golden one and I’m genuinely worried for the future. Also the next manager literally has to win a World Cup to not be considered a complete failure who should be ashamed according to our fan base.

[@irielion3748]

You make baseless claims. The players aren't over-hyped. They are all good, some great, players. The manager, however, was not great, and didn't utilise them.

[@peterelsey6238]

We will see now
This is going to b interesting no more negative tactics etc

[@jp3622]

He isn’t the most successful. Previous England teams played well and were unlucky and played way better teams in tournaments of way higher calibre of teams and players. Southgate was a donk

[@MrSinclairn]

So Sir Alf Ramsey doesn't count any more !?!🙄🙄

[@NoirFan84]

A very good coach would've won something with this squad especially given the incredible luck of the draw Southgate always got. Every time he would land on the much more favourable side of the draw.

[@HarryKanee]

Incredible luck of draws💀 hear this guy
We got them teams cos we actually topped our group how's it his fault 💀

[@a-walpatches6460]

Many very good coaches wouldn't have been able to get to two finals, a semi and a quarter final in the last four tournaments!

[@James-vv7vh]

There’s absolutely no way of knowing what any other coach would have done

[@NoirFan84]

​@HarryKanee Firstly, you actually did not top the group in 2018 & still landed on the easy side of that World Cup draw. And if you think topping the group guarantees you the easier side, you are chatting waffle, half of group winners still end up on your side of the draw even if you top the group. Spain topped their group & look at the difficulty of their path. England just kept getting very lucky & even most English people will acknowledge that because it's so very clear, other than the likes of you obviously who would argue black is white.

[@D187S]

I think luck is involved in winning, but it's the absence of the feeling we were even playing well that's more the issue.

[@hankspangler]

Well I never knew this Dorsett fella was Southgate`s PR Man! 8 minutes of absolute drivel and bluster. Shearer and Lineker were never personal in their criticism, they just questioned his tactics, or lack of, and his stubbornness to stick with certain players. Shameful gaslighting from another Sky Sports so called journalist. The streets know the truth!

[@theaverageguitarist9036]

All lineker and shearer did was point out the terrible football we were watching. It was never personal. He lost the England fans not because of not winning but serving up terrible sideways and backwards football such as playing it back to Pickford from a corner!!

[@tommckenna4633]

How can he describe Chiellini and Bonnuci as a weakness in Italian team???? Unbelievable

[@lexkanyima2195]

It's the age issue

[@thomsonfly645k]

@@lexkanyima2195 I think it was the fact that they were both on yellow cards. Often where a defender gets a yellow, they might have to be more careful with opposition players in case they get another and get sent off.

[@lexkanyima2195]

@@thomsonfly645k I see

[@Gary-hd9qc]

He lied to the fans, seems only interested in himself.
Thks for the memories GS

[@dorualex3092]

Give Southgate a job in Premier League I want to see how good he can be

[@waynebelton5445]

It was frustrating, as when subs were brought on (Palmer in particular) we played better. Yet the very next game we would start off with the same 11 who struggled. So, we brought on subs with 75 mins on the clock and we played better. Next game, same starting 11 yet again.

[@allanmckeown8417]

We can critisise Southgate but we have to remember England not qualifying for world cups in 74,78, 94 and euro's, he got us to 2 euro final's and a world cup semi, he's done England proud.

[@bushmonster1702]

second might as well be last.

[@andrewpearson5504]

English football is in far better shape today than it was in 74,78, and 94. The best players, teams, and coaches now play in England. Money rains down on English football from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Asia, and America. Unfair to compare the two time periods. Sports in England is far different today than it was before 2000; we were second in the medal count at the Rio Oympics! It's an apples and oranges comparison. God, sometimes the mentality in England is so English. We're better than that, England. We deserve much better than Southgate ball.

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

​@@andrewpearson5504no you don't! You are not (and never have been) a "footballing nation". Italy won the world cup 4 times, once 44 years after the last win! That's a "footballing nation"

[@aryamanmani4025]

"Italian side there for the taking" hilarious take. That Italian team were unbeaten for 38 games over 3 years and beat younger and better teams than the English to make the final. Can't believe Bonucci and Chiellini, two of the best centrebacks in the past generation are being reduced to aged and old.

[@lexkanyima2195]

But Italy has a well balanced squad

[@wemmas5724]

Same Italy that then failed to reach the next World Cup

[@aryamanmani4025]

@@wemmas5724 Not saying they don’t have issues currently but that Euros win was not fluke.

[@thomsonfly645k]

It was probably because they were on yellow cards, look at Kosc, Sagna in the Euro 2016 final, they got booked and couldn't do much to stop the last minute goal.

[@markstarmer3677]

Southgate tactics were negative, boring, and predictable. We were very lucky to get this far.
He was a lefty wokey brown noser to the lefty wokey F.A. He was certainly their type.
Personally, I’m glad he has gone. An overpaid coach with limited abilities.

[@CorporalFriendlyShark]

Sorry Gareth, but if you want your £5m a year then, believe it or not, you have to face criticism when you underperform in your job.
And don’t then start crying about ‘personal’ attacks and instill a culture in the players to come out and attack anyone who says anything even remotely critical about their performances.

[@JayDeeChannel]

Southgate never got the message!!!

[@KavyaBajaj-mv8yk]

He did not deserve the hate he got
Best English manager in 50 years

[@angelabrooke5059]

agree

[@albertbrammer9263]

Bobby Robson.
Terry Venables.

[@justmadeit2]

@@albertbrammer9263Southgate got us to 2 Euro finals and a World Cup semi

[@hjvh78ho]

@@justmadeit2 blah blah everyone knows that already... however what you're clearing not understanding is the fact that the football we played was rubbish having the best set of players in the tournament and yet still underachieving again.

[@justmadeit2]

@@hjvh78ho So who now then? Who’s going to do better that’s the question

[@john1951w]

Southgate was sick of it? So were we. A dreadful tournament. Boring, negative and tactically inept. I even thought he would put Kane in goal rather than dropping him. A Premier League manager? How ridiculous. He failed at Middlesbrough. Which Premier League team would want his style of play? The pundits weren't personal. They just said that the tactics and performance levels were poor. He bottled the big matches by never going for it and was always trying to defend 1-0 leads. That defeat against Italy in the final was self imposed. His fault. The FA will probably appoint another dull PR man.

[@matthiasl4493]

oh please, don't give us the victim card, where Gareth only left, because everyone was so mean to him.

[@verabolton]

I'm very surprised Southgate stayed as long as he did. After so many years of lack of success... He surely worked hard but his best just wasn't enough.
Hope he'll find his way forward.

[@Karl-Leslie-Ambrose-Moore]

Jurgen Klopp plzzzz

[@redmed10]

Southgate didnt just not get england over the line in winning a title. His style of football was just not attractive enough or successful enough and the lucky draws and then struggling to overcome inferior opponents all built up against him, one on top of the other.

[@JulieStocks]

Really dont get this narrative that he was a success. 8 years Won nothing.. England managers were never given that long or they may have matched his record...You cannot compare apples to oranges.

[@longlivetheboleyn1917]

Thats the problem. Keep politics out of football, it causes divisions and alienates the fans

[@gameram6382]

The football was dreadful 😂😂😂😂 we fluked our way to the final.

[@getheroutofthetruck]

He's right in that England almost need two managers; one for the football, and a politician to handle the toxic press.

[@StevenArnott77]

It’s 8 years to late.who in there right mind would give a top job to someone who knows nothing about it?this guy was getting £5million a year to do something never done before.couch a football team.The FA interview must have been.looks good in a suit.good at sales like Sunak! Knows nothing about tactics.let give him the money.the best English squad in history and turn them into a laughing stock of world football.and year after year they still though he’s the man for the job..at last he’s gone.not by the FA who wanted him to stay for another 6 years?he realised at last he’s not the man…I hope he gives all fans who payed thousands of pounds to watch the final of crap there money back…now let’s go for a proper football manager, Klopp.Pep.Jose…

[@tayzk5929]

Wasn't personal, just professional criticism.

[@guidofourcandles6477]

It's the style that hasn't helped Gareth, nothing personal from any pundit. He just refused to change or adapt which is why he was criticised so heavily when we struggled to make a forward pass. Simply put, his brand of football was not liked and people want to be entertained. Its pointless playing so negatively if you still dont win in the end. People see the type of football these players play for their clubs and recognise that there is enough talent in the England squad to play more positively. You are right about the final against the Italians, he cost us that with his negativity and he STILL didnt learn from it.

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

Wow, what a word salad for "we're just no good at football"...

[@teacherangello1082]

As an England fan , I appreciate everything that Southgate has done for England, but maybe he lacks that football experience of managing at the highest level at a top club .
Hopefully, the F.A will pick the best candidate and finally bring football home.

[@dorualex3092]

hopefully FA will pick a good manager but i saw on Sky Sports they talk about Potter, that would be a disaster, it will happen what happened at Chelsea, so pray to God to not hire Graham Potter

[@Frank-lj4md]

wheres the personal attack in the following from Gary Lineker????????
“You can think of all sorts of words and expletives if you like, but it was sh!t.
"Was it tactically inept? They’re just a little bit lost tactically. And that comes from the manager, I’m afraid. It really does. He’s got to get England playing higher up the pitch, as a unit. Because at the moment they’re not a unit. Are they not coached to play that?"