Can Izzet Phoenix Survive the Ban? | Izzet Pheonix vs Bant Angels
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- This week, Eli Loveman came all the way from America with his new spin on Izzet Pheonix. Can it still survive the pioneer metagame without it's dear Expressive Iterations?
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14:00 might just be my proudest play in feature matches so far
Awwww
Big brain to make useless attacks game 1 so he would fall for your trap in game 2.
I like how fair these decks play. Feels like true magic!
Yesssss. Pioneeerrr. Would love to see more Bant Spirits
Would love to see some Niv to light!! Keep up the great paper content 😄
Noted!
Such an amazing episode!
These tribal decks are amazing. Angels! Slivers, Elves, Goblins! I just love it. Watched the whole thing.
Regards from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷.
I played this matchup once at fnm. Game 3 dude had me on the ropes with a wide board of some big angels but I ripped an untapped 5th land to play galvanic iteration into anger of the gods. It was disgusting
The lore in that makes it even better
flavor win!
You sir got some good luck, because in my testing with angles (approaching 200 matches) angles is HEAVILY favored vs pheonix. Im sitting at 11-4 im the matchup, the only better matchups for angles ive found are spirits, humans and mono red/burn
Love the Pioneer content! Keep up the good work, folks!
Thanks! Will do!
I would love to see you guys try out the pauper combo decks of the world, defender combo, Goblins, maybe Tireless tribe!
Have you got a decklist?
I’m loving the pioneer content! It would be great to see esper greasefang showcased.
Have you got a decklist?
Love seeing Pioneer content here! Really great video!
Glad you enjoy it!
Love the vid! Pretty fun decks!
Recently dredgeless dredge has been gaining some traction in pioneer would love to see that!
That would be cool!
Nice to see multiple formats being played, would love to see some Pauper or draft
Great content of course, but there is some montage error at 10:53. Videos could use some post montage watching 😄
Thanks for the tip
Angel Tribal is already in Selesnya colors so i always wonder if the extra taplands to add blue are worth it. Here Livalla saved the game once so i guess it is, but are 3 Glasspool Mimics needed/not too many?
Yeah, I play the Selesnya one and I always wonder the some. For me it looks not to be worth it going blue, I prefer cleaner mana base with more utility like Mutavault and also having the option to play Book. Instead of Linvala there is still Selfless Spirit (in SB)
Sweet! The cards could be bigger on the screen when played, they're a bit hard to read on a phone.
Noice, I would love to see some Greasefang Parhelion II on the channel
Have you got a decklist?
@@CardmarketMagic Esper for example: www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-esper-greasefang#paper
Cheers!
Made a funny grixis pheonix/control list, would love to see some form of a pioneer grixis deck on here
Grixis mid is a fringe deck but just a worse rakdos
I’ve tried a grixis phoenix shell. 3 colors is too inconsistent. Blue red makes it flow better and you’re getting what you need faster. I was using lilliana x2 nicol bolas. Thought seize fatal pushes. But ran too many shock lands so by the time I could do anything I’ve shocked myself half to death.
Laughed out loud when Jamin baited the block. Love to see these games, specially without 10 counters per game.
Ledger shredder x4 in phoenix is like a must, the card is busted, thing in ice should of been a 2 of or 1 of and some in the side
I see most list run 1 in the main 1-2 in side. I run 2 and 2. I just love thing in the ice. When the card first came out I said it’d see play and it’s at least included in the shell and played some 4-5 years later 😅
Angels are really fun, IMO better then regular lifegain Strategies as the beaters in the air are good on their own most of the time
Idk how Angels can be fun, literally the most braindead deck in Magic. Requires no thinking, just play 1-2-3 drops until you get to 27 life
@@Scoob3rs Have you seen Goblin decks? It’s putting Gobbos on the field and swing. Have you seen Mono Green? It’s ramp with elves and beat with tramplers. Have you seen any moderately aggressive/Midrange creature based deck? All of them follow that plan: play creatures and win from there
@@schumerus6786 All these decks youve mentioned require thoughts on how and when to attack, when to remove your opponents creatures. Angels you literally play your creatures and hope you get to 27, no thinking whatsoever
@@Scoob3rs Your most detested deck must be Selesnia Lifegain then, that one is life gain focused to the core
great video, Eli seems like a very awesome person!
Couldn't agree more!
After playing against Eli a few times I have to say he has a strong "good player" aura; very intimidating to play against lol
Intimidating cone head 😂
No opt game 1 to try and hit a land to flashback 2 arclights when you're dead on board? Hmph
If you can fit 1 to 2 Legion angels in the angel deck you can actually get a full party with linvala, since glasspool mimic is a rogue and stays that way
Not worth compromising coco
@@soup8786 fair enough, then how about resplendent marshal. Coco gets it, it grows your crew and gives full party
@@behemoth1158 I think linvala is strong enough solely based on preventing sweepers. But you could consider it for sure
Eli seems like such a chill guy
He is :)
What about playing a modern Goblins combo deck at some point?
Have you got a decklist?
@@CardmarketMagic Sure thing! Shall I post it here? or should I put it in my cardmarket shopping list 😏
Great video. Might want to clean your camera sensor though, those black smudges are a bit distracting :)
We will indeed
Fun match. Thanks for posting
Thanks for commenting!
Funny thats the same matchup my roommate and i have with our pioneer decks.
Why was the camera in the individual scenes dirty? I thought it was my phone!
It was broken, we've stopped using that camera since, but there is not much we could do at the time since we were waiting for our new cameras to arrive
@@CardmarketMagic ouch! Well, all's well that ends well, i suppose.
Love the paper content so much. Would be great if you’d play Gates. I know it’s not the best deck but I’ve found it to be stronger than it seems
Noted!
10:34 At the beginning of combat, he could have axed the Valkyrie giving the +2/+2 discarding the Arclight Phoenix. Was this a miss play or am I stupid
Probably a miss play. Phoenix is extremely hard to play.
@@johnnoreau3570no
What's the difference between a mythic champion and a pro tour champion?
Yes!! Yes it can! Just built the deck and I am getting great results!
Wonderful!
25:30 I'm confused about why Eli didn't just Strangle the Valkyrie in Jamin's end step to be efficient here, then he could have played the turn 2 Thing in the Ice like he wanted. He took 2 to have that land come in untapped for no reason.
It’s a sorcery not an instant
Random thought but is the camera really dirty when they do commentary style camera?
The camera was broken. This was one of the last times we used it
@@CardmarketMagic wow can't believe you replied such an old video, going above and beyond, keep up the excellent content!
Thought this was modern for a second and got really excited about bans
Hahaha
Love the content watching from the USA
Nicer love pioneer. Would love to see my pet deck Jund food sacrifice in action. Sac the cat, mayhem trigger, sac the food, mayhem trigger. Cats joins. Trigger. :D
Cool idea
Yes paper pioneer!!!!! Please do more 🙏 ☺ 😊
Yes!!!
I want the new Challenger Deck
Anyone else see dead pixels on the interview cam?
Those are dust specs on the sensor of the camera. They can clean them off if they want :).
Could you play Niv to Light?
Have you got a decklist?
@@CardmarketMagic
4 Sylvan Caryatid
1 Valki, God of Lies
1 Selfless Glyphweaver
2 Omnath, Locus of Creation
3 Niv-Mizzet Reborn
2 Nahiri, the Harbinger
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Dreadbore
3 Growth Spiral
3 Vanishing Verse
1 Deafening Clarion
2 Kologhan’s Command
1 Extinction Event
4 Bring to Light
1 The Celestus
1 Blood Crypt
1 Breeding Pool
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Forest
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Indatha Triome
1 Island
2 Jetmir’s Garden
1 Mana Confluence
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Raffine’s Tower
1 Raugrin Triome
2 Rootbound Crag
1 Savai Triome
1 Spara’s Headquarters
1 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls
2 Sunpetal Grove
2 Watery Grave
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Ziatora’s Proving Grounda
Sideboard
1 Jegantha, the Wellspring
2 Deafening Silence
2 Fatal Push
1 Thoughtseize
2 Dovin’s Veto
2 Go Blank
2 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
2 Mystical Dispute
1 Notion Thief
Build a deck using Jacob hauken or dragonlord kolaghan
For whenever you guys wanna do more modern matches:
Go ahead and try out a SPICY take on Phoenix in the format
Izzet Shredder Phoenix 😁👍
Keep up the FANTASTIC gameplay videos😁👍
If needed
I have a full list including SB😁👍
Thanks for the idea!
and the legends at it again
I know many native English speakers get it wrong, but "Phoenix" is written right there on the card...
Yooo, finally commenting every video paid off
Keep at it!
I want to see rakdos midrange! It’s a very good deck!
Have you got a decklist?
We love pioneer
Us too!
It is funny to see how izzet player on game 3 shocks himself on turn 1 to cast an opt but he forgets to do it
why on earth would you sideboard out almost all of your answers to his threats? -.-
I wouldn't mind seeing some cycling in pioneer
Pioneer best format!!!
(still like everything except Standard)
Same but with Standard as well ^^
lotus field !!!
More Pioneer! More Pioneer!
More! More!
Pioneer soulflayer it’s a gamble and not popular but I think it’s cool
Common Jamin W
Make mono black devotion
Do you have a decklist for us?
I really want to know why Jamin has a tattoo of toad
My fiancee and I both like playing Nintendo games - so she got Toadette tattooed and I got Toad. (Also he's just the most lovable character from the Mario games)
@@jaminkauf6242 aww that's super cute
the dirty lens on the interview camera is so distracting
Unfortunately, there was not much we could do about it. The lens was not dirty, it was broken. We were just waiting for the new lens we had purchased to arrive
I was rooting for the angels,
Clean the camera lenses
that was driving me insane too.
Perfect🤗 💖🔆🤪
Oh boy did this not age well haha
EEEEEEEEEEEEEGANJOOO
I hate white decks, expecially angels, but for some reason if the opponent is izzet Phoenix I will always root for the angels