Just to answer a few common questions I've received: 1) What's the point if, without electronics, it can't do any science? As mentioned in the video, you can make mechanical seismometers. You can also make countless other instruments such as thermometers and barometers. You can then transmit the data using anything an orbiting satellite can read with active radar, for which there are a lot of interesting concepts. These supporting technologies were a focus of Dr Sykulska-Lawrence's other research. 2) Why not put the electronics in a fridge powered by the wind turbine? Venus is just too hot. The calculations had already been done in other research and nothing short of a nuclear reactor could power that much cooling. The reactor and cooling system would then need to operate at even higher temperatures in order to dump heat to the environment, so it simply isn't feasible.
Theoretically, you could adopt analog electronics to Venusian conditions. Resistors, capacitors, transistors(?) can be produced from materials that work natively in that environment. By adopting analog electric components you could send pictures, telemetry etc. Of course there is still need for mechanical applications, but making signal processing (that is complex computing) on a tiny gears - sounds like it would work well in simulation - but harsh conditions would kill it shortly. I can imagine that "native" electric Venusian rover would work only on Venus as Earth would be too cold. But this is a very interesting engineering project - how to develop, build and test device that is hard to be tested on Earth - testing in an oven? Venus is relativity close, with dropping costs of sending to space it's an interesting destination. Also it's "easier" to land on comparing to Mars - it's like diving, so it's slower thus easier to control.
why not a heat engine using the seeback effect and not a fridge but a cooler it has a shelf life as a rover but it gets down does it thing and has +12 hours of battery for lag time/transmitting then you make every other system mechanical like in your current desgin boom an electro mechanical rover powered by the outside and still able to function within parameters
While this video is pretty good, it appears you've made a fatal flaw my flightless friend. You see, while you spent all of this time working on this truly impressive rover, it was all wasted from the start. This is because you could've skipped all of it and simply submitted a 1 ton limestone cube. While I would explain why the limestone cube is superior in every way, I believe it is obvious enough that I need not explain.
@@ScalettadomWhen USSR sent spacecrafts to Venus its budget was less than NASA's. But in case of USSR direct comparison of İntercosmos and NASA is incorrect due to differences in economies and their composition.
"It's full of fluff the mark scheme demanded regarding project management and concept selection" Truer words have never been said in regards to university portfolios. Also, can't forget the ridiculously large word count requirements when the information could be conveyed more clearly, succinctly and in a more interesting manner to read in often a 1/4 of the requirement. Seriously though, this was an awesome video to watch, and I'm glad UA-cam chose this to recommend your channel after such a long while of not seeing you pop up in my feed.
I had an internship at Lawrence Livermore National Labs and one of the other interns had a project designing mechanical logic gates. Unlike your mechanical logic gates, these use flexures and can be scaled down to miniature scales. Sounds like they would fit here perfectly on a real Venus rover
It depends on the temperature at which the material they're made from becomes bendy. Mind you, the actual prototype mechanical computer from this project would mostly evaporate on the surface of Venus. But, if the other intern's flexure logic gates depend on, say, TPU or some other thermoplastic... Of course, you probably knew that, but I felt like I needed to say something. I've seen various awesome things done with reversible structures and flexures on UA-cam, and it seems difficult to imagine re-engineering these designs to work in what amounts to hell.
@@bearnaff9387 Good point but... Titaium will fix it if not an alloy or composite and given Nasa won't attempt this for at kleast a dacde and the rate of titanium manufactor advancement I can see the final design being half the size atleast of beardies team's version... Though I doudt it would be anything more then a felex for NASA as what radio and camre ciould it carry? Then again having a rover on venus just living it's life that a air or space satlight just takes pictures of would be cool in and of it's self.
Mate the amount of work and research that went into this is staggering. I presume there is not much recent information on analog computers -crappy- rugged enough for the conditions of Venus (and the tolerances of 3D printing). Especially that clockwork timing delay mechanism is truly incredible. From one engineer to another, well done, all of you.
My idea for a mechanical venus rover would be computers made from MEMS relays. Basically that huge room-sized computer they made in the 40s out of relays, but with the relays shrunk to microscopic sizes with modern technology.
You might want to talk to Theo Jansen who seems to have mastered the art of mechanical logic by pvc and pneumatic systems. Id love to see a venusian strandbeest wandering the hellish landscape.
Dr Sauder interviewed him at the start of his project, and reached the conclusion that they aren't applicable to Venus. Read the AREE report if you want to know more.
This is actually really clever. The way your team came together, rallied like minds, and presented it all is beautiful. True engineers. Congratulations, you guys earned it :) Just fascinating all around : D! Keep building!!!
Good suggestion but manufacturing keyed shafts would have taken more time and budget that we didn't have It cost us nothing to temperature fit everything, and worked perfectly except for when we tried to turn both gearboxes
Do you remember those toy robots from the 80s that would drive forwards, bump into something, spin in place and then go in a random direction? They featured in E.T.
Probably one of the most insane gdp’s I’ve seen, going into my third year now at soton, not the gdp for me to take on as I’m more focused on aerodynamics but I know quite a few in my year who might be interested in the future
I feel like this has got to be a dream project for you! Its like a sweet spot of all your interests and all the things you've been talking about on this channel for years... Huge props to you for being able to fulfill your dreams! Its really quite inspiring for me, a fellow like-minded engineer, whos also had very similar interests and been following your channel for years to finally see you being able to take all those dreams and concepts, and hours of tinkering in ksp and now bringing them to reality. All I got to say is, Well done! Congrats on everything you've achieved so far, and to ever more success in all your work in the future. You've inspired me to try on some projects like this in my uni, and i'm sure glad to take from your example. Good luck man! You got this.
There’s something so fascinating yet foreboding about venus… I really hope I live to see new exploration efforts on our hellish sister planet, or maybe even a manned aerostat or airship!
So, hilariously, I believe you and I both started uni the same year, and I too went to Bovington for my dissertation (mine was less cool tho, I wrote about tanks not space)
Thought exactly the same. Miniature tubes and primitives electrical parts could even form a relatively complex computer with ROM, RAM, a CPU and an RF transmitter to return data, and since even normal consumer grade tubes work at way higher temperatures than the surface of venus, heat shouldn't be an issue. Or, if you want to make it even more compact, VFD displays are triodes as well, so you could build a digital triode computer as a very wierd, large microwave clock display, requiring only a single set of heaters at ~600°C, instead of many at 1500+, reducing energy usage and failure points.
Great video and yeah this is what engineering is about! Which I have the feeling your vehicle could have been slit into two parts... the machinal computer with dummy inputs and a smaller vehicle made with a digital computer. It would have solved all you budget problems you brought up in the video... Like I leanered long ago that a good designer must ask this question... "If I can't do this, then what I can do?"
This is suuuuper cool! I'm playing around with another concept where you use pneumatic valves as logic gates rather than mechanical linkages, and I think it would work very well for a mechanical rover because you can pipe the air pressure from sensors/to actuators.
madness, I met one of the people working on a similar project to you guys recently during the uni of leeds Open day. Truely amazing ideas and development
This is so freaking awesome. Using mechanical computers is something I wouldn't have thought of, but it works so well here. And mechanical computers did a ton of real world science back then, much more than math equations. So the possibility of them doing more than navigation is 100% possible. Also that tank museum is awesome for letting the team see all that stuff. I just hope that you guys can actually make a fully working prototype with decent financial backing next time around. So disheartening seeing stuff cut by budget constraints, though I suppose that sorta prepares you for how most government agencies operate. Would love to find out more about that team that continued on your design.
this is an insane level of work, congrats to everyone on the team for bringing together such a cool concept. though it's a shame the university wouldn't let you buy a flight so you could do an integration test on the moon :/
OMG IT HAPPENED, also cannot express how blown away I am by the quality of your videos, love the Top gear Intro and the new art, can’t believe you’re videos have gotten even more aweesooommee!
Huge fan of everything you do, and this is easily the coolest yet. Seeing this group come together and make something so incredible has inspired me to think way more positively about my group uni work (I've only had bad experiences so far lol), and has made me ludicrously more excited for my own dissertation. Thank you for your amazing work, I look forward to reading your paper :)
Just had a quick read of your project's report, definitely a very good one that's gonna be useful for my yearly engineering student project (for taking inspiration in the format of it). The overall project is pretty much astounding, congrats on y'all for the good work!
This is really cool! I went to an open day at southampton a few months ago and got to see it in the open room and it was the thing that stuck with me the most. I was actually thinking of searching it up recently and boom this video.
14:34 "We'd laid the groundwork for future teams to take it further, which they did!" Who is they? I want to see the completed (although massacred) version of the rover! (I couldn't find it in the description nor through some searches on Google)
Did the oven not give high enough temperatures for your needs? Only reason I can think of to use the stove instead, but it there's another I'd love to know.
When Im getting my aerospace degree, I want to create a small hybrid rocket plane at some point. Starting with making my own hybrid engine (looking for anyone who can help with injector orifice calculations on a side note), might apply for some scholarships with the project to back if I can get it done before deadlines...
Maybe you just didn't show it, but the lack of any sort of active amplification is always going to make a computer built purely out of those gates unviable. Friction in a gate is dependent on load, and load is dependent on later gates, so you end up with geometric load growth with depth. You need some sort of external energy driving the output of your gates, rather than relying purely on the input. The one critical factor for being able to build a computer is amplification. You can build a computer out of any element that can amplify. Simplest way is probably a pair of clutched gears on a driving gear. Both are driven off a common power shaft, but one is reversed. You set it up so that each state will disengage one of the clutches. This project is undeniably cool, and a monumental achievement, but you will probably look back on it and see many mistakes. Not having a background in computing specifically shows. The fact you were able to get a computer working without designing anything that could be repurposed as an output driver for the gearbox is an achievement, but not one to be particularly proud of.
I mean... I take issue only with the final line from above. Without being able to find more resources (they went to a tank museum to learn more--they were desperate), having limited time, and also having limited team knowledge and resources, I still think it IS something to be proud of. Of COURSE the design needs heavily iterated on! It's a very early conceptual prototype for bizarre conditions, made by students with, again, notable constraints. Information like what you present is very useful for future iterations, but seeing many mistakes when looking back is NOT something to ruin pride in the achievement. Mistakes are part of learning and prototyping--they should ruin pride only if they don't get caught before a finalized product. Getting it working at all when they had other projects and classes is enough for a start, and a start was what they set out to achieve. There's a reason it was recognized as highly as it was, and its deeply flawed and troubled usage is useful for showing where further iteration is needed.
It's the opposite engineering challenges from nearly all other probes and rovers to date, engineering to withstand major atmospheric heat and pressure. While the electronics we have and use now would never survive that environment long enough to gather useful information, is it possible to engineer completely custom electronics that actually can operate at such high temperatures? Mechanical and/or electronic, I can imagine just the thermal expansion nature of materials makes it all really really hard to devise a workable Venetian Rover, but hopefully you guys and gals will figure out brilliant solutions.
Mechanical logic gates? I think using relays/solenoids could have been pretty good for the computer, the real thing would need special relays but cheap off the shelf units would work for the demo.
Just to answer a few common questions I've received:
1) What's the point if, without electronics, it can't do any science?
As mentioned in the video, you can make mechanical seismometers. You can also make countless other instruments such as thermometers and barometers. You can then transmit the data using anything an orbiting satellite can read with active radar, for which there are a lot of interesting concepts. These supporting technologies were a focus of Dr Sykulska-Lawrence's other research.
2) Why not put the electronics in a fridge powered by the wind turbine?
Venus is just too hot. The calculations had already been done in other research and nothing short of a nuclear reactor could power that much cooling. The reactor and cooling system would then need to operate at even higher temperatures in order to dump heat to the environment, so it simply isn't feasible.
Oh! Transmitting by flashing a reflector at a satellite is a neat idea.
Theoretically, you could adopt analog electronics to Venusian conditions. Resistors, capacitors, transistors(?) can be produced from materials that work natively in that environment. By adopting analog electric components you could send pictures, telemetry etc.
Of course there is still need for mechanical applications, but making signal processing (that is complex computing) on a tiny gears - sounds like it would work well in simulation - but harsh conditions would kill it shortly.
I can imagine that "native" electric Venusian rover would work only on Venus as Earth would be too cold. But this is a very interesting engineering project - how to develop, build and test device that is hard to be tested on Earth - testing in an oven?
Venus is relativity close, with dropping costs of sending to space it's an interesting destination. Also it's "easier" to land on comparing to Mars - it's like diving, so it's slower thus easier to control.
Love how people completely forget that mechanical computers 100% did science back then.
LOL yeah @@SockyNoob, the people involved with these projects in the 70s are certain to have memory problems after 54 years!
why not a heat engine using the seeback effect and not a fridge but a cooler it has a shelf life as a rover but it gets down does it thing and has +12 hours of battery for lag time/transmitting then you make every other system mechanical like in your current desgin boom an electro mechanical rover powered by the outside and still able to function within parameters
While this video is pretty good, it appears you've made a fatal flaw my flightless friend. You see, while you spent all of this time working on this truly impressive rover, it was all wasted from the start. This is because you could've skipped all of it and simply submitted a 1 ton limestone cube. While I would explain why the limestone cube is superior in every way, I believe it is obvious enough that I need not explain.
L I M E S T O N E
“I landed on the moon so NASA didn’t have to.”
No kidding like there school project saved nasa dacdes of time and billions of dollars in cash... At current rates Nasa goes though both anyway.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough nasa gets a lot less money to work with these days than you would think.
@@guesswho2778 yeah, when we got to the moon, NASA got 5% of our entire nation's budget. Now it gets around 0.5%.
@@ScalettadomWhen USSR sent spacecrafts to Venus its budget was less than NASA's. But in case of USSR direct comparison of İntercosmos and NASA is incorrect due to differences in economies and their composition.
This should always be remembered as the first British clockwork space tank, for planet Hell.
GG Beardy and team.
"It's full of fluff the mark scheme demanded regarding project management and concept selection" Truer words have never been said in regards to university portfolios. Also, can't forget the ridiculously large word count requirements when the information could be conveyed more clearly, succinctly and in a more interesting manner to read in often a 1/4 of the requirement.
Seriously though, this was an awesome video to watch, and I'm glad UA-cam chose this to recommend your channel after such a long while of not seeing you pop up in my feed.
I had an internship at Lawrence Livermore National Labs and one of the other interns had a project designing mechanical logic gates. Unlike your mechanical logic gates, these use flexures and can be scaled down to miniature scales. Sounds like they would fit here perfectly on a real Venus rover
It depends on the temperature at which the material they're made from becomes bendy. Mind you, the actual prototype mechanical computer from this project would mostly evaporate on the surface of Venus. But, if the other intern's flexure logic gates depend on, say, TPU or some other thermoplastic...
Of course, you probably knew that, but I felt like I needed to say something. I've seen various awesome things done with reversible structures and flexures on UA-cam, and it seems difficult to imagine re-engineering these designs to work in what amounts to hell.
@@bearnaff9387 Good point but... Titaium will fix it if not an alloy or composite and given Nasa won't attempt this for at kleast a dacde and the rate of titanium manufactor advancement I can see the final design being half the size atleast of beardies team's version... Though I doudt it would be anything more then a felex for NASA as what radio and camre ciould it carry? Then again having a rover on venus just living it's life that a air or space satlight just takes pictures of would be cool in and of it's self.
holy crap my brain is not awake yet and I swear I read "I had an internship at Lawrence Fishburne" and oh god I had questions
sorta sad now, tbh
Mate the amount of work and research that went into this is staggering. I presume there is not much recent information on analog computers -crappy- rugged enough for the conditions of Venus (and the tolerances of 3D printing). Especially that clockwork timing delay mechanism is truly incredible.
From one engineer to another, well done, all of you.
I’m calling it… this gon be in FAK
I agree with you. He's gonna do a venus rover to beat the Americans to Venus. A red Venus there will be.
@@RandomYT05_01what is FAK?
@@JinKee For All Kerbalkind
@@evanperes7382 awesome! I love For All Mankind so i will look for FAK
@@JinKee it's short for "For all Kerbalkind"
My idea for a mechanical venus rover would be computers made from MEMS relays. Basically that huge room-sized computer they made in the 40s out of relays, but with the relays shrunk to microscopic sizes with modern technology.
But magnets don’t like the heat
@@m_disulphide mems relays work electrostatically, not with magnets. Besides, electromagnets work at any temperature.
such a classic student project move to have the gearbox 3d printed pla and 300 track links machined from bulk stock on a haas hahahaha.
amazing project though I want to see more prototypes
You might want to talk to Theo Jansen who seems to have mastered the art of mechanical logic by pvc and pneumatic systems. Id love to see a venusian strandbeest wandering the hellish landscape.
Dr Sauder interviewed him at the start of his project, and reached the conclusion that they aren't applicable to Venus. Read the AREE report if you want to know more.
@@TheBeardyPenguin Thanks for the reply! Oh well, we'll find a planet they can wander on eventually.
this is actually inspiring. I LOVE stuff like this.
So happy you're doing well!!!
Considering this is built for venus, it might also be useful in deep underwater trenches as some kind of seismometer or sampler
Pressure is no issue for semiconductors, or other electrical systems.
This is actually really clever. The way your team came together, rallied like minds, and presented it all is beautiful. True engineers. Congratulations, you guys earned it :)
Just fascinating all around : D! Keep building!!!
Have ya'll never heard of a keyed shaft before? Your determination to square holes and press fits is impressive.
Good suggestion but manufacturing keyed shafts would have taken more time and budget that we didn't have
It cost us nothing to temperature fit everything, and worked perfectly except for when we tried to turn both gearboxes
It really shows how much work you out into the project and in this video, I love it :D
I dunno, (theoretically) outer space seems like a good new home for a bike to me
Posting this right after i get to my hotel room, after watching erc (european {student} rover chalange) for the past 8 hours is a trip
Do you remember those toy robots from the 80s that would drive forwards, bump into something, spin in place and then go in a random direction? They featured in E.T.
“The worst possible terrain - sand”
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Probably one of the most insane gdp’s I’ve seen, going into my third year now at soton, not the gdp for me to take on as I’m more focused on aerodynamics but I know quite a few in my year who might be interested in the future
The Tank Museum is pretty awesome. Also, I'm now disappointed your rover doesn't have Christie suspension.
I feel like this has got to be a dream project for you! Its like a sweet spot of all your interests and all the things you've been talking about on this channel for years...
Huge props to you for being able to fulfill your dreams! Its really quite inspiring for me, a fellow like-minded engineer, whos also had very similar interests and been following your channel for years
to finally see you being able to take all those dreams and concepts, and hours of tinkering in ksp and now bringing them to reality.
All I got to say is, Well done!
Congrats on everything you've achieved so far, and to ever more success in all your work in the future.
You've inspired me to try on some projects like this in my uni, and i'm sure glad to take from your example.
Good luck man! You got this.
I remember this being mentioned in one of ur videos glad to hear the backstory!
You realise that you built a WWI Tank. Thats the most british rover ever
They really do look a lot like the mark V's with the rollers on them for bridging trenches...
They should attach bulges to the side with fake guns lol
Dang! Definitely got further than the project I was in for Mechanical Engineering, and a lot more complicated. Good job man.
Impressive! This is a beautiful hybrid of the old and the novel.
Mmm, always nice seeing a beardy video, specifically on this so nice
This is AMAZING! So happy to see this and how the whole team worked on it
Was at southampton a couple months ago and saw your rover at one of their displays of student project, didnt even realise it was yours lol
this is way too complicated for me but awesome!
The top gear reference at the start is so nostalgic
There’s something so fascinating yet foreboding about venus… I really hope I live to see new exploration efforts on our hellish sister planet, or maybe even a manned aerostat or airship!
One of those projects that's torturous in the moment but will be looked back on as one of the highlights of your life.
14:00 hey, the snow cruiser had to drive backwards!
So, hilariously, I believe you and I both started uni the same year, and I too went to Bovington for my dissertation (mine was less cool tho, I wrote about tanks not space)
I love the use of mechanicality, and great job on designing the perfectly times cams!
holy shit my heart jumped a bit when you mentioned southampton lmao much love from a 3rd year space engineering student at southampton haha
Seeing how many people came through to help was amazing. Hope you can get up to Venus!
This is beautiful. Thanks for making my day.
Thank you for putting this together, I've been intrigued to learn about your rover for SO LONG, ever since you first mentioned it.
What about special vacuum tubes made of quartz tubes and Tungsten metal bits?
Thought exactly the same. Miniature tubes and primitives electrical parts could even form a relatively complex computer with ROM, RAM, a CPU and an RF transmitter to return data, and since even normal consumer grade tubes work at way higher temperatures than the surface of venus, heat shouldn't be an issue. Or, if you want to make it even more compact, VFD displays are triodes as well, so you could build a digital triode computer as a very wierd, large microwave clock display, requiring only a single set of heaters at ~600°C, instead of many at 1500+, reducing energy usage and failure points.
As an aspiring aerospace engineer, this is so cool
Can't wait for the collab with Peter Beck to make this happen and be launched
Haha, I saw this at a university open day earlier this year, I had no idea it was you! This is a really impressive project.
Great video and yeah this is what engineering is about! Which I have the feeling your vehicle could have been slit into two parts... the machinal computer with dummy inputs and a smaller vehicle made with a digital computer. It would have solved all you budget problems you brought up in the video... Like I leanered long ago that a good designer must ask this question... "If I can't do this, then what I can do?"
Honestly really cool rover, hope to see the design applied in the future!
This is suuuuper cool! I'm playing around with another concept where you use pneumatic valves as logic gates rather than mechanical linkages, and I think it would work very well for a mechanical rover because you can pipe the air pressure from sensors/to actuators.
madness, I met one of the people working on a similar project to you guys recently during the uni of leeds Open day. Truely amazing ideas and development
This is so freaking awesome. Using mechanical computers is something I wouldn't have thought of, but it works so well here. And mechanical computers did a ton of real world science back then, much more than math equations. So the possibility of them doing more than navigation is 100% possible. Also that tank museum is awesome for letting the team see all that stuff. I just hope that you guys can actually make a fully working prototype with decent financial backing next time around. So disheartening seeing stuff cut by budget constraints, though I suppose that sorta prepares you for how most government agencies operate. Would love to find out more about that team that continued on your design.
i heard about the rover proposal, but its crazy that someone actually built it!
this is an insane level of work, congrats to everyone on the team for bringing together such a cool concept. though it's a shame the university wouldn't let you buy a flight so you could do an integration test on the moon :/
OMG IT HAPPENED, also cannot express how blown away I am by the quality of your videos, love the Top gear Intro and the new art, can’t believe you’re videos have gotten even more aweesooommee!
Huge fan of everything you do, and this is easily the coolest yet. Seeing this group come together and make something so incredible has inspired me to think way more positively about my group uni work (I've only had bad experiences so far lol), and has made me ludicrously more excited for my own dissertation. Thank you for your amazing work, I look forward to reading your paper :)
There are ways around your resource constraints. Aluminum parts can be made cheaply with a bit of scrap aluminum, a hacksaw, a drill, and some files.
Wow, just wow. This is an obsurdly cool project.
Just had a quick read of your project's report, definitely a very good one that's gonna be useful for my yearly engineering student project (for taking inspiration in the format of it). The overall project is pretty much astounding, congrats on y'all for the good work!
deadass thought this was gonna be in KSP, but no you actually built it for real
This is great work! Good job team
Couple of my friends were on that project last year, was very funny seeing the pile of track pieces they had to put together😂
man the budget sounds brutal
"We'd like to develop a mechanical venus rover"
Okay here's 50$ and some hot glue! Have fun kids
I'm amazed you still could upload videos with such a schedule!
This is really cool! I went to an open day at southampton a few months ago and got to see it in the open room and it was the thing that stuck with me the most. I was actually thinking of searching it up recently and boom this video.
Oh wow! I've seen this a few times down in the basement of B13, really cool to hear some of the backstory behind it! Sounds like an amazing project
It's so cute how much we use spinning things to generate electricity to ... spin things.
Hyped this is finnaly out
Well how lucky was i that my Prof had Industrial connection. We had BASF sponsoring a big part of our plastics project.
A whole bunch of Undertale's ost in this video. Nice choice.
I love the idea and hope it will in future do good things thanks for the video and you work.
Very impressive. Thanks for sharing.
Dreams pass into the reality of action. From the actions stems the dream again; and this interdependence produces the highest form of living.
This is literally so cool
Wow, very innovative! Good work!
So how does the rover communicate?
@@markvwood2007 read the pinned comment
This is such a underrated project
If the Soviets could do it the 70s completely blind we could easily do it today with all the knowledge we have Venus and Technology now
The real question is... WHEN WARTHUNDER VIDEOS???
Keep up the excellent work!!!
Under the crunch? How dare you speak to me of the crunch, I’ve been to the crunch
please never stop making videos
I'd love to see a video of your other work!
An obstacle may be either a stepping stone or a stumbling block.
14:34 "We'd laid the groundwork for future teams to take it further, which they did!"
Who is they? I want to see the completed (although massacred) version of the rover!
(I couldn't find it in the description nor through some searches on Google)
Here's their project video, it's unlisted which is why you couldn't find it
ua-cam.com/video/QrXLUflCiFo/v-deo.htmlsi=yTPpvFHq732HxgNg
Did the oven not give high enough temperatures for your needs? Only reason I can think of to use the stove instead, but it there's another I'd love to know.
No, it didn't
You can get things much hotter in a frying pan
@@TheBeardyPenguin Butane torches are cheap.
@@MrBricks148cheaper still to just use a frying pan
It worked didn't it :P
Could be used for marine biology 🤔
When Im getting my aerospace degree, I want to create a small hybrid rocket plane at some point. Starting with making my own hybrid engine (looking for anyone who can help with injector orifice calculations on a side note), might apply for some scholarships with the project to back if I can get it done before deadlines...
Maybe you just didn't show it, but the lack of any sort of active amplification is always going to make a computer built purely out of those gates unviable. Friction in a gate is dependent on load, and load is dependent on later gates, so you end up with geometric load growth with depth. You need some sort of external energy driving the output of your gates, rather than relying purely on the input. The one critical factor for being able to build a computer is amplification. You can build a computer out of any element that can amplify.
Simplest way is probably a pair of clutched gears on a driving gear. Both are driven off a common power shaft, but one is reversed. You set it up so that each state will disengage one of the clutches.
This project is undeniably cool, and a monumental achievement, but you will probably look back on it and see many mistakes. Not having a background in computing specifically shows. The fact you were able to get a computer working without designing anything that could be repurposed as an output driver for the gearbox is an achievement, but not one to be particularly proud of.
I mean... I take issue only with the final line from above. Without being able to find more resources (they went to a tank museum to learn more--they were desperate), having limited time, and also having limited team knowledge and resources, I still think it IS something to be proud of. Of COURSE the design needs heavily iterated on! It's a very early conceptual prototype for bizarre conditions, made by students with, again, notable constraints. Information like what you present is very useful for future iterations, but seeing many mistakes when looking back is NOT something to ruin pride in the achievement. Mistakes are part of learning and prototyping--they should ruin pride only if they don't get caught before a finalized product. Getting it working at all when they had other projects and classes is enough for a start, and a start was what they set out to achieve. There's a reason it was recognized as highly as it was, and its deeply flawed and troubled usage is useful for showing where further iteration is needed.
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A clock work Rover
I would think a skinned walker would be the choice of route, but hey, i didn't waste money on college! And you get to keep electronics
I will call it “Space Churchill”.
Like the AVR
Well done, this is cool as fuck
Of course the university is stingy, they're a business. Your education is inherently a secondary concern.
Impressive work!
Ha ha, Space Tank go brr...
KSP couldn't handle your space tanks so you decided to do it in real life! 😅
It's the opposite engineering challenges from nearly all other probes and rovers to date, engineering to withstand major atmospheric heat and pressure. While the electronics we have and use now would never survive that environment long enough to gather useful information, is it possible to engineer completely custom electronics that actually can operate at such high temperatures? Mechanical and/or electronic, I can imagine just the thermal expansion nature of materials makes it all really really hard to devise a workable Venetian Rover, but hopefully you guys and gals will figure out brilliant solutions.
Lol EDMC being a pain never changes 💀
Mechanical logic gates? I think using relays/solenoids could have been pretty good for the computer, the real thing would need special relays but cheap off the shelf units would work for the demo.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
that was really interesting