It seems to me that EVERY actor in EVERY Night movie over-acts in EVERY scene. Its really distracting! Love your content! Love from Southern California!
I work at a movie theater and yesterday we had to set up a marriage proposal message before this movie started that said "I can't imagine growing OLD with anyone else" and me and my work bestie could not get over the absurdity of proposing to someone at fucking Old
Hey it's better than the time I saw "Will you marry me Kaitlyn?" written in orange spray paint on an overpass as I was driving on a littered freeway 😅😅😅😅 I'm not sure why... but it being in orange was the icing on the cake
SPOILERS: What confuses me most is Mid-Sized Sedan. Why would the pharmaceutical company select him as a subject knowing he’s a famous rapper? He’s got management and fans who’d really start digging when he doesn’t return from his vacation. I get that his blood clotting disorder is rare, but surely there’s someone who isn’t massively famous to choose instead?
How many celebrities disappeared from the spotlight without anyone giving a 2nd thought. Unless you're an A-list or B-List celebrity no one is looking for you people would assume you just "fell off"
It just amazes me that Shyamalan can write such bad characters. Mid-Sized Sedan was not in the graphic novel and it amazes me that anyone would come up with such a stupid name for a character.
One character said she found out about it on a pharmacy receipt so I think they targeted people based solely on their ailments. Probably didn’t know it’d be someone famous
How will those kids be able to function in society if they're physically in their fifties, but mentally still children? It's such a traumatising ending, if you really think about it.
Dementia is horrifying as it is. No one talks about the really hard stuff because it can be scary, embarrassing, heartbreaking, gross, etc. People don't talk about what it feels like when your grandfather starts hitting on you because he doesn't remember you, or when he starts to forget how to clean himself, or how hard it is to smile and have the identical conversation multiple times a day because all he can do is fall back on the same jokes and small talk, or seeing such a gentle, loving man snap at children or steal their toys, or having to call the police because he went missing again because some guy keeps talking him into giving him rides and then he can't find his way home, or how he accused your grandmother of cheating on him because she was gone for a few hours and he has no concept of time, or knowing that he has no idea that she died, or having to put him in a home, knowing that he is in the final stages where he won't even know who he is anymore. I was prepared for him to die twice--once in his mind and once in his body--but it has been way more than twice already. Dementia is always wrapped up like it's just someone going quietly into the good night. It's not. Dementia makes a lot more sense for the movie than schizophrenia, which is so often misrepresented in its own way, as if it's more extreme and dangerous than it often is, while dementia is downplayed.
Thank you for writing this. Dementia isn't just forgetting and acting like a kid. It's incredibly painful and difficult to watch and to deal with. My best to you and your grandfather.
This is so true, my dad had dementia for years before he passed in August 2020 and it was so hard watching the big strong and boisterous man I grew up with disappear as the dementia & Supra Neural Palsy take that person from us. ☹️😢
An older lady I attended church with had Dementia and taught children for years came up to other adult members waiting for children to get out of their class and asked if this was where the children were so she could pick up her grandchildren for her son and his wife (I was there for my nephew). That was hard as that part of the church had been the children’s wing for twenty years. It didn’t used to be when the church was first built but had been for years but she didn’t remember anymore and no doubt the presence of so many adults confused her.
When I was a teenager I used to live very close to a home specifically for Alzheimer's patients. I remember one night I was walking home from the bus stop and suddenly a very strong banging and screaming started. It was an old lady's voice, and she was screaming at the top of her lungs. "Mommy, they won't let me out, Mommy, come help me. Mommy, please, where are you?" Stuff like that. Screaming and crying; I could also hear the nurses trying to calm her, in soft voices. I always think of her, and how scared and lost and alone she must have felt; A child calling for her mother to come. Shyamalan just using mental diseases for easy villains is such a monstrous thing to do, and I cannot believe he did it again after all the shit he got for split.
He didn't use alzheimers and that's kind of the problem. Alzheimers was what they used in the comics and it can and often does cause violent outbursts. It's not the person's fault and they certainly aren't villains, but it happens. Schizophrenics on the other hand, are far far far more likely to hurt themselves than to hurt others, yet the movie switched to schizophrenia for more scary mentally ill person tropes
yeah... the second I heard this was the "Split" guy I knew I wouldn't enjoy it. A friend of me is schizophrenic and way kinder to others than most people I know. And his depiction of DID in "Split" was just plain cruel
Wouldn’t she be like in agonizing pain if her pregnancy was basically fast forwarding? Wouldn’t they all be in agonizing pain from aging so quickly? Growing pains???
Another reason why I wished it went rated R so they would explore the body horror aspect with disturbing bone and skin growths, and them kept alive as they went through it. :( Sad
Can I just point out how much better of title Sandcastle is than Old. One is simple little metaphor that pretty easy to get while the other manages to somehow be both nondescript and on the nose at the same time.
Before I knew about the comic it was based off of, I was thinking that the movie could’ve been called “Coral Beach” since the coral kind of tied into the movie. But Sandcastle seems like a better title lol
@@toaarky What are the themes of the story? What kind of message do you want to convey? Do you want to be metaphorical or literal, or perhaps even abstract? Minimalist or light novel?
@@stan8479 the movie i just poorly described (i was trying to start a guessing game.) was called Devil.. produced & written by the same guy who did this.
That made no sense. It was immediately in the blanket, so it's whole life it had attention. There wasn't a moment outside the birth canal where someone wasn't holding the damn baby.
By lack of attention, I believe they meant, the child was not fed or nurtured in any way for what was days in their time. If there was any unseen problem with the birth, the time went by so quickly that they couldn't notice or treat it. I agree that lack of attention was a bad way to describe it, but this is what I took from it. Obviously humans don't spontaneously die when people ignore them.
@@2buxaslice i knew what they meant too, it’s just so funny like that, plus the ratio of days was calculated out by another youtuber (if i remember, i’ll tag u in it) and literally like it had another 2 minutes before it would have died like that, it wasn’t even down for a whole minute. besides, that line, in or out of context, is funny as hell to me
The pregnancy actually bothered me because I feel like it's a plot hole. If everything aged rapidly, the pregnancy wouldn't have even happened. The sperm would have immediately died when it left the male body. It wouldn't have had enough time to make the journey.
@@katierasburn9571 Yeah, wouldn't that imply they should be eating, drinking, pissing, and shitting pretty much constantly? There's sleeping, too, but you could at least hand-wave that one away by having them "sleep" in microseconds that no one noticed.
In the book, it didn't make total sense, but it fit within what was happening and it made sense with the themes of the story. Shyamalan seemed to want the horror of the pregnancy without actually having to deal with the baby.
The age of onset of schizophrenics is early 20’s for men. If he had schozophrenia, he would have been showing significant signs by the very start. Dementia definitely makes more sense.
Well, schizophrenia often develops in early to mod 20s, but has also been known to develop in early childhood and old age. Theres no "Either you have this at 24 or you dont"
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 Very true, but when I say onset I’m referring to the development of maladaptive symptoms to the point of warranting a diagnosis. Schizophrenia is one of those “odd cases” in neurology where multiple factors are required to have sufficient symptoms for a full diagnosis- they need for the brain to reach a state of full development as well as having it present in family history. Prior to the “age of onset” it can be called “early onset” or “schizoaffective personality” but cannot be a confirmed case because the brain is still developing and may reform its connections. There are also different types of schizophrenia and severities. Schizophrenia that would be exacerbated by age would likely be catatonic, which his issues with paying attention to the surgery would have been indicative of- but catatonic results in a significant decrease in activity, not his weird full blown “final boss mode” behavior. It CAN be argued though that maybe the rapid increase of age could have resulted in brain trauma that affected his brain’s plasticity, but again his early symptoms don’t quite match up.
@@Apryll. Yes, that is the issue. By his age all symptoms should have manifested meaning he wouldn’t just suddenly be in rage mode or whatever. That’s not how schizophrenia works, it isn’t a rage virus. Though guess we shouldn’t be surprised because this director has some weird tendency to make mental illness into some kind of monster transformation point.
I'm starting to get very uncomfortable with M Night Shymalan and mental illness now. Especially with Split he seems to keep making digs that mental health is dangerous and Schizophrenia has a big enough stigma as it is.
I thought that maybe he had early onset dementia because of how he was acting off early on before a lot of the really weird stuff started to happen. I really thought they were going that way when the doctor character kept getting distracted with remembering the name of that movie he forgot.
@@amberwillis9617 Thank you so much for saying this; I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm a psychiatric nurse and work in acute care, primarily with people who have psychotic disorders. Overwhelmingly, people who have schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders) are non-violent people. They are just like everyone else; they just happen to have an illness that affects their perception of events around them. Most people who have schizophrenia don't become violent, and the ones who do usually feel threatened in some way. Even then, they aren't the "crazy axe murderer" you see in movies. There is a logic for everything. For comparison, large changes in blood sugar levels in people who have diabetes can cause a change in mental status, yet you never see a diabetic reaching for the knives in movies when they become acutely ill. It's very much a stigma attached to schizophrenia. Shyamalan has now fallen back on extremely harmful stereotypes of mental illnesses in several movies. The "grandparents" from The Visit were violent killers. The reason given was that they were escaped psychiatric patients. In Split, he provides one of the worst representations of Dissociative Identity Disorder I've ever seen! It is also the cause of his violence, despite rarely being the case in real life. Now, we have yet another movie from Shyamalan in which we have a person with schizophrenia depicted as violent for no reason. I find this trend very distasteful and ignorant. I don't think I will be watching any more of his movies until he clearly demonstrates that he has educated himself on mental illnesses and the impact movies can have on people's perceptions of them.
My biggest plot hole: What about how Mid Sized Sedan (god, that name is the worst) was there on the beach with that woman overnight and apparently didn't age and her body didn't decompose.
I think it might’ve been the morning of the same day the other families came to the beach (so like right before the sunrise that’s why it was still dark) but yea that had me confused too
@@Bog_Dog he was there when the woman was, he was still effected with his nose still bleeding but wasn't there long enough for the aging effects to hit by time everyone else arrived
What's really cool about this, as a concept, is that beach resort culture is so steeped in all manor of STUFF related to age. It's marketed as this escapist world for the young and beautiful, but also a magnet for retired seniors. And it is supposed to be an escape from time, so this makes for an interesting reversal.
It really did seem to show a lot. It's sort of especially noticeable because(and I don't know if it's been the same for everyone else) the trailer was constantly showing when I watched youtube videos. I also consistently see the trailer while watching Hulu.
Spoiler warning: least believable thing in a story about people aging 2 years every hour was when the cop believed the middle aged man who approached him and said hi, I'm the 6 year old you met yesterday.
He probably didn’t believe him until given the list of missing people names, then it became part of his duty to check if said names were actually missing. At that point, he would probably believe anything our protagonist said, to try and get more info. And I doubt our protagonist started off by saying he was 6 years old the day before. But yeah pretty bad movie
pro tip when you write spoiler warning, put it in caps and put your actual spoilers below it, invisible at first glance. otherwise theres no warning lol
Man, M Night Shyamalan reaaaally likes using mental illness to make his antagonists scarier. There was no need to replace dementia with violent schizophrenia, all that did was put a bad taste in my mouth. These conditions do NOT make you an inherent threat to others although that's what this character and every portrayed in Split would have you believe.
I still can't believe split happened and people (including my teenage self) just ate it up like nothing was wrong. Now shyamalan just puts a bad taste in my mouth and that reveal didn't surprise me, just pissed me off. And Aster did the same thing in midsommar too
He did something similar in The Visit too. The elderly couple had some kind of mental illness too. And, honestly, I don't want to see people stigmatizing dementia either. But stigmatizing schizophrenia has to stop.
When I told my friend that character bothered me so much, especially bc of the racism, she excused it by saying: oh but he was mentally ill. That's the same as portraying all men in movies as rapists lol. It's wildly assumptuous. Plus schyzophrenia doesn't make you violent like this smh
Personally I don’t think he was demonizing mental illness at all in this. The reason the one character was acting violent is because he was aging so quickly that he wasn’t able to treat his schizophrenia.
@@123rockfan you're still saying that he was violent bc of his schizophrenia. schizos aren't inherently violent. for me I just have hallucinations n stuff
@@kairabyrd2790 untreated schizophrenia can lead to aggression. So if someone is aging years in a matter of minutes I think it made sense for that character to behave like that
I've suffered psychosis, people think you completely lose touch with reality and become violent. That's not true at all. I was very in touch with reality, but my thought processes changed somewhat due to trauma. But I self healed. I was never violent.
Havvvve ya watched 'St. Maud'? 😆 Joking aside yeah, usually people going through psychosis aren't violent. Some are though and that tends to overshadow everyone and create a stereotype. I can respect/recognize that some of the stigma comes from the internal self-preservation instinct people naturally have, though.
@@thevixter82 Same. I was in a mental health hospital for it and I acted okay and even had normal thought processes. The only thing off was I had an imaginary friend who I would see and have full conversations with, and in my mind be was just another kid, but in all actuality my mind made him up to help cope after years of abuse.
Yeah, violent schizophrenics are a rarity. I'm saying this as someone whose PTSD stems from living with one. The majority are much more likely to hurt themselves in their confusion or get hurt by others. Using mental illness as the bad guy is so very often just pure laziness, a writer's crutch, and it's abhorrent.
the graphic storyline of a little girl’s autonomy taken away(giving birth as a mental child) is extremely disturbing and idk I just wanna know who thought that was an ok idea
I mean, I think it works as a concept because in the comic, it's very much about the course of life and childbirth is usually a part of that in some way. In the film, it seems like Shyamalan just wanted the shock
I honestly thought it was going into the CSA route or that the baby was developing faster than they could it out and it bursting through routes but nope can't explore body horror or a serious issue. Then again I don't trust him to not ruin s serious issue
@@rosesweetcharlotte but why it had to be a six year old girl, they could've made an older women getting pregnant on purpose because she was scared of running out of Time and never experiencing it. Making someone who's mentaly a child go through it just feels wrong
@@aaa5126 By that point, the older women are too old to be pregnant. And no sane person would be thinking about sex. I don't know, it's something I got the importance of for the comic because it fit with what the comic was doing. Here in the film, it just felt very gratuitous and off.
The nosebleed makes sense if the guy gets nosebleeds once in a while and would until the rest of his life as some people do. Except in this case it would start, stop, start and stop again.
His blood is clotting he probably would’ve been the first one to die if he didn’t get stabbed and he still probably died from the stab wounds because his blood was clotting when the wounds were trying to heal just like the main dad when he’s getting cut by the doctor his cuts heals faster than wolverine
@@OgGuak420 that's not what a clotting disorder is. you're body has chemicals called clotting factors that are responsible for for example, clotting your blood so you don't bleed out after a paper cut. a disorder can result in blood clotting too much like you're saying, or in blood not clotting enough or at all in the case of haemophiliacs. his blood isn't spontaneously congealing throughout his body, if that was the case he wouldn't be having spontaneous nose bleeds. His blood isn't clotting that's why he has a nose bleed lasting hours in the comic.
@@AmandaTheJedi I am having doubts that shyamalan steals scripts from others, and when it comes to writing his own stories, he falls harder than a pen from a sky. You know, gravity. Come on, the man has The sixth sense, unbreakable, signs, the village, split. One is a masterpiece loved by everyone, the other two are a part of franchise, signs is alien farming movie with water being their kryptonite, and the other is a horryfying tale of pseudo modern age where people want to get out of urban life and want to live a quiet life. I mean, the village was situated in a forest area, where are the bloody forest department officers, let alone has the main protagnist ever seen a airplane or a helicopter on sk.......never mind. She is a blind woman.
Honestly if I were the scientists, I would care more about zeroing in on how people affected can heal and grow so rapidly while violating thermodynamics and conservation of mass in the process. The implications of that are way, way huger than pharmaceuticals.
Same. I never had the "taking a test I'm not prepared for in my underwear" dream. But I had the "suddenly pregnant and in labor while trying to convey 'no, really, I actually AM a virgin'" dream plenty, especially in my teenage years.
The six year olds going for it is horrifying. I guess they wouldn't have had the talk or known what it was so I don't know what they thought they were doing but I doubt they knew it could lead to pregnancy
The whole point is that their hormones are changing as they age so they are aging because the brain is undergoing different chemistry than when they were 6. If they were truly still mentally six they would have no desire to have sex. Animals don't need to be taught what sex is, I suspect humans isolated from society would be able to figure it out as well.
I guess it makes sense somehow, but it still feels really really messed up 😂 Then the birth somehow works, but the Baby's dead anyway. Dunno if the shock factor was worth it 🙈
In the movie the dad says "what you did is how babies are made" and the son says " I know but I thought you had to do it like 10 times" uhhh what 6 year old knows those things
Shyamalan is like the game beanboozled. Sometimes you get something delicious, sometimes you get toothpaste; however sometimes people like the toothpaste flavor!
Toothpaste actually tastes good for an unconventional flavor. Earthworm, barf, and boogers are the worst for me. Never been able to get them down. I think The Visit is my toothpaste, it was so bad it was funny. But the happening, ATLA, we’re earthworms for me.
Nah, he has two good movies, his two first ones. All the rest are shit. And I bet if you look at those two, there were other people involved who were probably responsible for their quality.
For me, the children remind me of people who spend 30 plus years in jail, leave jail with no life experiences and have “wasted” quality time. The children leave the island in their 50s, which is so depressing .... no children, no adult experience and only seeing death.
I feel u 100% on the pregnancy scene, I first saw the trailer and was like "huh, this seems interesting, I should check it out" and then that part happened and I was like "Ah, I can never watch this movie."
Was not expecting to see a Nick Cage and an M Night movie in the same weekend of 2021. One was an insightful, understated drama that redeemed a man whos career had reached a rough point, fallen into meme status, but then created a surprisingly well-crafted and tender work of art. The other was Old.
Idea for best Shamalyan twist ever! There is no twist! I mean everyone's expecting a twist with a M. Knight movie right? So the twist is that there's no twist! Love it! :D
Honestly this movie didn't feel like it had a twist to me. The trailer revealed the beach aged people, so I went in knowing that, it was pretty clear the resort knew about it from the start. The "Why" they were doing it was interesting in a sense, but a twist should make all you have seen be viewed in a different light. This wasn't that. It was just the very simple explination. Why does the resort send them there... experiments. Okay. That's not a twist.
So with the whole Alzheimer's thing; they could have just left the suggestion that his rapid onset of confusion was due to the aging effects of the beach just accelerating the disease and it would've fit fine. They didn't need to "lol actually its schizophrenia" us as if that would somehow make more sense and also man I am so over schizophrenia being used as the gotcha moment of every thriller/horror movie.
I used to work in psychiatry, and the amount of Hollywood nonsense people believe (patients and families) is shocking. I think most people know movies and TV shows aren’t known for their accuracy (for guns, for martial arts,etc), but for psychiatry…many take every ridiculous movie fiction on as absolute fact.
@@Itried20takennames I don't know in English but in my country, people use "schizo" as synonymous to "multiple personality disorder" when they see someone acting out of character or having a mood change. Mocking multiple personality disorder like this is weird enough, but they have to confuse it with schizophrenia in the process.
Especially M. Night can't seem to let go of this trope. For the amount of movies he's made featuring mentally ill people... just stop! Mental health issues are surrounded by enough stigmas as it is, we don't need any more of this rubbish!
I got an ad for the movie on UA-cam a few hours ago, but the way it was translated into my native language had nothing to do with the original title, so I was trying to find the name of this weird ass movie trailer because I had no idea what the trailer was trying to tell me and here's Amanda to the rescue 😂
Appalled to learn this movie's original title is "Old." I mean, yeah, it has to do with the plot and all, but 'Old', really? C'mon, it's like if Titanic was named 'Sea.'
I thought the “effect” of showing things in the periphery was cool at first like getting the idea that the kids were growing but not directly seeing it, but it ending up feeling like we were just missing the whole movie like when Kara died and we didn’t see her body at ALL?? It felt like watching the movie from another room which kinda sucks especially since we didn’t see the baby until it was a skeleton
i think a lot of it was because it was rated PG-13 and not R. they aren't going to show a wholeass dead baby in a PG-13 movie nowadays lol, especially with all the other stuff they showed.
I was hoping that there was gonna be a scare after Kara's death where they discovered that she had already begun decomposing. Instead there was nothing. What a great movie!
Honestly I do wonder if Shyamalan feels obligated to have a twist in movies that might not even need one. Like I wonder if he has ideas for good movies but forces in a big twist unnecessarily because he feels like he has to live up to his brand
I started thinking that when I saw Glass. I thought the first 2/3 of Glass was as fantastic but the twist at the end was so terrible and stupid that it ruined the rest of the movie and it left me wondering why he ALWAYS has a twist
Yeah I feel like he thinks that's his "thing" that sets him aside and puts his signature on the movie which is just unfortunate cause so many of his movies would have been outstanding without the twist. I think he easily could have kept his feel without keeping the same structure every time
@@r520jr8 completely agree, the whole series was ruined for me by that. Won't even watch unbreakable (never seen found out about it after seeing glass) and now pretend split is a stand alone movie with no creature ending 😂 I've been wondering about his twists since midnight meat train tho, the ending just felt so out of place and uneeded to me.
It was honestly a blessing in disguise when these idiots in the front row of the theatre wouldn’t shut up in the beginning of the movie. Because I totally missed the pharmaceutical company conversation. Definitely made for a better ending. Also I didn’t really pay attention to the drinks either.
Holy shit I didn't realise the actual statistics on this. How many of this guy's movies actually do this to mental health? Is it like 9/10 type shit? Is he deliberately demonizing mental health? I didn't realize it was so common in his movies.
You know ... maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't even realize he's doing it that often. I've seen way too many directors confronted with their reoccurring, obvious issues around a type of person, and going, " ... Oh." I don't know, but my money's on he's just clueless about how his feelings about mental health keep coming out in his work.
@@dermiker i mean, he literally said that his own fears about death and aging were part of the inspiration for old...so he's aware of it to some extent.
Having the camera at weird and odd angles to keep the kids faces obscured so we found out they were older at the same time as their parents was really clever
I didn’t think so because it would’ve been more skillful if we looked at things that literally distracted us from them until they reappear as older. Looking at their shoulders, thighs, and foreheads for 2-3 minutes is just not interesting to look at
while i do think it was rlly obvious each time they aged, i still think it was a cool concept and if executed better could have really made an impact on the movie. of course the trailers spoiled everything but even then when trent and maddox were first shown to have aged despite already knowing that it had happened, i found myself thinking "oh, wild." the 2 minute straight shots from the same angle on random body parts wasn't very fun tho, so def a big emphasis on the "if executed better"
For the medical experiment angle, how were these companies planning on showing their findings to the FDA or similar? They'd still need to run an actual trial to present.
All things considered, it might be safe to say that Shyamalan didn't learn anything from The Happening: if the explanation doesn't make any sense and actually makes a serious story seem ridiculous, then maybe it's better not to bother with an explanation at all. I mean, by all accounts, it worked for the original comic.
Not to mention a trial needs hundreds of diverse candidates and eventually people would start noticing if families kept going missing every time they went to this resort
I think the idea is to see if the drug works before doing the trial. Lots of drugs go through trials to find they don’t work. So the premise is to weed out the drugs that work from the drugs that do not. That way the company on has to put out money on drug trials that are guaranteed to work.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 They wouldn't even be able to get that though because after people realize they're trapped and aging they started dying in unnatural ways. What information about their MS drug did they get from Sedan who was stabbed to death? Same for the girl he was with who also had MS and drowned after swimming out too far. Same for the nurse who also drowned. Not to mention the stress of the environment and the rapid aging itself (which realistically should metabolize any medication they'd been given since they still needed food) could inhibit the effectiveness of any drugs. No explanation would have been far better.
The clean end really doesn't make sense either. Like, the whole thing is clearly a huge operation but they don't have any sort of security or team of people to handle possible escapers? Escapees? Escapists? Like. I expected someone to come out and tackle them or something or shoot the helicopter down. But even with that not happening, why is anyone listening to these people? They're adults claiming that they were children yesterday who have a list of missing people. I would think they were just crazy.
Just the fact that the people in the helicopter were in military uniforms and flying over the weird beach I found ominous. I don’t remember where they said the resort is, but military presence so quickly at the end was foreboding to me.
Apparently the ending scenes were added after test audiences complained about the medical company not receiving the consequences for their actions. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to end when Trent knocks the drinks over but everything after the corals could be a reshoot too.
i’m taking movies away from m. night until he can make a single film where a character’s bad choices or actions isn’t hand waved away by demonizing mental illness
Pregnancy grosses me out quite a lot, I thought I was the only one. As soon as I saw that in the trailer i was like “haha wow i know what i wont be watching”
@@OgGuak420 I mean no disrespect to pregnant mothers but I have many reasons for choosing not to bring any children up into this world. However, I do not have to justify what I do with my body to anyone, least of all you. Please have a good day.
I know, right? I am bipolar with psychotic tendencies. The worst my psychosis will do is having me disassemble electronics and doors to search for hidden cameras, but thanks to media people hear "psychotic" and think I go all stabby stabby.
@@QueerCripple Oh no, people better watch out when you go psychotic, they may get their phones killed oh noooo. I hate that media loves to pick mental illness as their big bad so often. When more often than not it hurts the person suffering more than it hurts the people surrounding them.
So I got a new cat a I thought it was a girl. I named her Minerva, or Mini for short. I'd had this cat for about a week and thought it was a girl the whole time. We went to the vet for a check up. Turns Mini is a boy! So now his name is M. Night cuz what a twist!
My cat was pregnant when I rescued her and her brother from the crawlspace under my house. Renters had abandoned them. I thought she had 4 female kittens, but they grew up boys. That was lucky, because we did not end up with a third generation of cats. All got spayed and neutered, and I became a too many cat man, because I could not find a home for them.
Just the title coming up, "OLD" the concept of rapid aging and moving closer to death is scary, but the title name after intense clips feels more comedic. Maybe another title could have been like "The Beach" or "Time's Up"
So I'm not the only person who was creeped out by the rapid pregnancy in the trailer ? Because I saw it shouted "what the fuck ?!?" Then went to the wikipedia page to see what the fuck that was about and it didn't explain shit at all so I tried to just erase it from my mind.
I tend to avoid M.Night like the plague. I loathe how his 'return to form' is specifically with horror where the twist is 'mental illness'. He's being celebrated for an age old trope that should have died out, and I much rather see him do something original without relying on negative stereotypes. Hell, I had some hope with this, but when it was suddenly 'violent schizophrenia' I lost all faith. I'll just read the graphic novel.
Based on the review the novel isnt that great either... i havent read it yet but idk if the movie like this and the novel like that... i might just pass
Exactly…like it’s offensive and harmful to mentally ill people, but it’s also extremely lazy. It’s bad writing, and it’s not even a twist at this point bc it’s like….really obvious? Most horror movies end with either “idk cult stuff” or “it was all a ~mental illness~ all along! How terrifying!!”
It really bothered me how so many people liked Split. It was so problematic and harmful with mental illness (the stigma of how it's so often associated with violence) and I'm so sick of the 'D.I.D. with a serial killer personality!' like we haven't seen that hundreds of times. Plus the romanticization of sexual abuse like suffering is somehow ennobling. It was gross, to say the least.
Maybe I’m a weird parent, but when my son was little & we talked about “The 3 Little Pigs,” I concluded the story by saying that they “lived happily ever after in the little brick house….with the mortgage payments.” He’s now an adult, a new dad, and yes, lives in a house with mortgage payments.
Finally someone understands how fucking TERRIFYING is that the TODDLER THAT SUDDENLY GREW UP is the one being pregnant out of LITERALLY NOWHERE I WANTED TO WATCH BLACK WIDOW IN PEACE AND ALMOST LEFT THE PLACE WITH THAT BIT OF THE TRAILER Edit: well it wasn't out of nowhere... But _still_ wtf
Precisely. Those poor kids will be traumatised by the end, and will be completely unable to function properly in society afterwards. They'll definitely need TONS of therapy.
The amount of people who, like my family and I experienced, went to the cinema to watch Black Widow and got this movie's trailer beforehand, and COLLECTIVELY decided they'd pretty much seen the whole movie is staggering.
I think the sandcastle is deliberately being used since it's one of the things used to explain Entropy. Sandcastles have highly organised structures that will fall into decay as opposed to dunes which might grow or shrink but will still be dunes. The whole thing is a lot longer, no one complain I'm selling it short.
I never wanted to watch this movie solely for the trailer showing that the whole pregnant thing was gonna happen and I rather not see that. Actually I just go out of my way to watch thriller movies to begin with so it’s nice seeing a review of the movie because I was curious but not enough to make myself watch the full movie. So yeah good job on the review.
I saw Old the day it came out with my friend and when it got to the part with the pregnancy he goes “No! What?! No! No! They didn’t have to do that! It would’ve been the same movie if they didn’t do that!” And I kind of have to agree because ***SPOILER*** since the baby dies immediately no one has time to process what happened and Kara probably would have tried to climb the rock face anyway. In Trent’s case I could see the argument that he has to live with the fact that his child also died on that beach but because, in many ways, he’s still 6 years old, he probably can’t comprehend the real gravity of what happened which takes any real meaning out of it. In short, it was a fun movie-at times. Rufus Sewell definitely acted the heck out of his role and did a great job.
Yeah. In makes more sense in the graphic novel, because it ends with a philosophical infant building a sandcastle as he dies of old age. Just the idea of a being like that is thought provoking. The pregnancy doesn't contribute to the story in the movie though
The calcium deficiency death really horrified me. I've always had a bad back, shoulders, and legs, and sometimes it hurts so bad I can't run or even look down. Dying like that would be worse than being stabbed...
Something interesting is that in the movie all the food is packaged in bags made of a metal-looking fabric. I think it ties into the idea of insulating the food against the effects of the beach? Not sure though.
@@mrcritical6751 maybe? There was the one scene where the girl ate some food without that happening. But the movie never addresses it again, so I’m not sure.
seeing that pregnant kid in the movie immediately threw me off the whole thing. I still wanted to know what happened though, so I'm glad I clicked on this video! Your explanation of both the movie itself and the comic its based on and the themes they both explore was excellent and entertaining to listen to.
I don't get why Shyamalan writes dialogue the way he does -Either ignores criticism from critics, family members, actors,etc -Either he tries to be fancy with his vocabulary in a Wes Anderson and Quirky in a Coen Brothers way -I don´t get why he forces actors to act like robots. Is he trying to be Ingmar Bergman with the stairs and whisperings? Does he watch modern films? Is he social? Is he aware of how people talk in real life?
the nosebleed was a side-effect they were tracking as part of the anti-clotting medication test patient (im guessing)... so it was commented on if you paid close attention at the end. it was pretty quickly mentioned so its easy to miss.
There actually is a plant that can kind of make what happened in that movie believable called the gympie plant... It's also located on the continent where you'd probably expect something like that to exist.
I didn't even know this was an adaptation of a comic. Then again, the trailer didn't really look interesting to me, so I didn't look into it and, ironically, if he hadn't changed the ending, then the trailer shows it all; people arrive on beach, age rapidly and die...
The pregnancy part should've been horrifying but the way he filmed it made it seemed like it wasn't all that important at all and was glanced over real fast. those annoying long shots takes away all the urgency of a situation and drags it on FOREVER.
Yea.. It was alright the first time.. weird but alright.. it's a choice. But it quickly became apparent that he'd like swing the camera away whenever something that'd be tricky to pull off was happening.. That way they'd just skip all the interesting stuff.
This!!! All of his twists either made or broke his movies. Even some well done and entertaining movies by him were ruined for me by the strange twists he added.
His twists has become his undoing. Everyone expects them now after 6th sense, signs and the village. But then it just went downhill. The Happening was 🙄. It held so much promise with the premise and it failed totally. I vowed I’d never pay to see another film by him. And this sounds just as argh.
I feel like even schizophrenia could have worked if they just put in the slightest bit of effort. I %100 agree that a story like this should have had dementia instead, seeing as it’s dealing with aging. Hell, it’d be incredibly uncomfortable and unsettling if one of the kids had early onset dementia instead, and it’d be a hellova thing to tackle. But, while it wouldn’t be nearly as impactful, schizophrenia is also an option. Schizophrenia becomes worse with time. That could easily have been tackled here, but there were no hints to the guy having it. Just having him answer nothing here or there, an occasional, “what?” while no one’s talking. I’d be fine if it genuinely explored how schizophrenia works, it being more a defense mechanism that is built for a being meant to be paranoid rather than modern human society. Seeing a guy slowly go from a kind of odd, reserved dude to a paranoid, aggressive one, constantly being told in his head that someone’s gonna hurt him would be interesting, in my opinion. I also feel like episodes could have been a topic to tackle, as well as medication or how schizophrenia should and shouldn’t be managed. But no, they took the laziest route possible, and demonized an already stigmatized mental illness. Kinda makes me wanna’ write a slice of life story about a dude who happens to have schizophrenia actually living a decent life and vibing, since so many people seem to think that’s impossible.
I saw it today while I was third wheeling one of my friends and her boyfriend, I actually met a really nice movie nerd who I coincidentally go to school with, and we talked about it and how many plot holes there were and that’s the only reason that I enjoyed the movie, it’s because I was talking to him about it constantly
Shyamalan's ability to ignore the tone/themes of the source material, and just kinda ad-lib shit when he doesn't like the source material's answers or lack there of never ceases to amaze me. And not in a good way.
This flashed me back to the drug trial I was in in my early 20's. They dropped me because my condition was too severe and I'd screw up their numbers lol
Having only seen the trailer, I found the pregnancy scene terrifying for a completely different reason. (I didn't really register it was suppose to be the toddler). I thought the baby was going to grow faster than they could get it out, and it would end up ripping the mother from the inside, as it got to big for her body to handle.
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Guys I think I'm really onto something with this whole acting thing
I agree, Ari Aster would be a better choice for director than M Night, as he'd handle this material in a more complex way.
It seems to me that EVERY actor in EVERY Night movie over-acts in EVERY scene. Its really distracting! Love your content! Love from Southern California!
I am 40 minutes late to this video because I was literally rewatching another Amanda video 😆
I loved the bits you did
You did amazing, oscar worthy multi performance, Tatiana Maslany who? 😂
I work at a movie theater and yesterday we had to set up a marriage proposal message before this movie started that said "I can't imagine growing OLD with anyone else" and me and my work bestie could not get over the absurdity of proposing to someone at fucking Old
Do you know if they said yes?
@@maddigarvin4578 Well, congratulations to them at least. Hope they're happy together for years to come.
@@maddigarvin4578 Aww! Well that's sweet I guess lol
LMAO
Hey it's better than the time I saw "Will you marry me Kaitlyn?" written in orange spray paint on an overpass as I was driving on a littered freeway 😅😅😅😅
I'm not sure why... but it being in orange was the icing on the cake
Amanda: "What 6 year old knows about a mortgage?"
My little brother playing Animal Crossing: "PAY THE RACCOON TO MAKE MY HOUSE BIGGER"
This is a scenario I had not considered
😂😂
You just blew my mind as a teacher
Kids are becoming older far faster these days.
@@Le_Vernes lol some people shouldn’t point fingers, too.
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What confuses me most is Mid-Sized Sedan. Why would the pharmaceutical company select him as a subject knowing he’s a famous rapper? He’s got management and fans who’d really start digging when he doesn’t return from his vacation. I get that his blood clotting disorder is rare, but surely there’s someone who isn’t massively famous to choose instead?
He is named after a type of car.... So I doubt he is that famous... I'm sure after he dies all his fans moved on to Full size Sedan
How many celebrities disappeared from the spotlight without anyone giving a 2nd thought. Unless you're an A-list or B-List celebrity no one is looking for you people would assume you just "fell off"
It just amazes me that Shyamalan can write such bad characters. Mid-Sized Sedan was not in the graphic novel and it amazes me that anyone would come up with such a stupid name for a character.
One character said she found out about it on a pharmacy receipt so I think they targeted people based solely on their ailments. Probably didn’t know it’d be someone famous
@@roslyn-rose124the, what, 11 year old girl loved his music, stands to reason he was famous enough. Why would you defend such a terrible point?
How will those kids be able to function in society if they're physically in their fifties, but mentally still children? It's such a traumatising ending, if you really think about it.
Easy. They won't.
Oh Shamylan changed the ending?
Well, there are adults out there like that without the movie. So, they'd probably just need professional help
I think that's why they go to their aunt because they can't take care of themselves
That's why the graphic novel's ending, sad as it may be, is the only ending that could possibly work
Dementia is horrifying as it is. No one talks about the really hard stuff because it can be scary, embarrassing, heartbreaking, gross, etc. People don't talk about what it feels like when your grandfather starts hitting on you because he doesn't remember you, or when he starts to forget how to clean himself, or how hard it is to smile and have the identical conversation multiple times a day because all he can do is fall back on the same jokes and small talk, or seeing such a gentle, loving man snap at children or steal their toys, or having to call the police because he went missing again because some guy keeps talking him into giving him rides and then he can't find his way home, or how he accused your grandmother of cheating on him because she was gone for a few hours and he has no concept of time, or knowing that he has no idea that she died, or having to put him in a home, knowing that he is in the final stages where he won't even know who he is anymore. I was prepared for him to die twice--once in his mind and once in his body--but it has been way more than twice already. Dementia is always wrapped up like it's just someone going quietly into the good night. It's not. Dementia makes a lot more sense for the movie than schizophrenia, which is so often misrepresented in its own way, as if it's more extreme and dangerous than it often is, while dementia is downplayed.
Thank you for writing this. Dementia isn't just forgetting and acting like a kid. It's incredibly painful and difficult to watch and to deal with. My best to you and your grandfather.
This is so true, my dad had dementia for years before he passed in August 2020 and it was so hard watching the big strong and boisterous man I grew up with disappear as the dementia & Supra Neural Palsy take that person from us. ☹️😢
An older lady I attended church with had Dementia and taught children for years came up to other adult members waiting for children to get out of their class and asked if this was where the children were so she could pick up her grandchildren for her son and his wife (I was there for my nephew).
That was hard as that part of the church had been the children’s wing for twenty years.
It didn’t used to be when the church was first built but had been for years but she didn’t remember anymore and no doubt the presence of so many adults confused her.
That's why watching The Father hurts on a personal level, and makes it more unsetling than most "horror" movies today
Well said. It’s brutal. Sending you the best.
When I was a teenager I used to live very close to a home specifically for Alzheimer's patients. I remember one night I was walking home from the bus stop and suddenly a very strong banging and screaming started. It was an old lady's voice, and she was screaming at the top of her lungs.
"Mommy, they won't let me out, Mommy, come help me. Mommy, please, where are you?" Stuff like that. Screaming and crying; I could also hear the nurses trying to calm her, in soft voices.
I always think of her, and how scared and lost and alone she must have felt; A child calling for her mother to come. Shyamalan just using mental diseases for easy villains is such a monstrous thing to do, and I cannot believe he did it again after all the shit he got for split.
He didn't use alzheimers and that's kind of the problem. Alzheimers was what they used in the comics and it can and often does cause violent outbursts. It's not the person's fault and they certainly aren't villains, but it happens. Schizophrenics on the other hand, are far far far more likely to hurt themselves than to hurt others, yet the movie switched to schizophrenia for more scary mentally ill person tropes
yeah... the second I heard this was the "Split" guy I knew I wouldn't enjoy it. A friend of me is schizophrenic and way kinder to others than most people I know. And his depiction of DID in "Split" was just plain cruel
If all the split haters are dead so am I
Wouldn’t she be like in agonizing pain if her pregnancy was basically fast forwarding? Wouldn’t they all be in agonizing pain from aging so quickly? Growing pains???
Not just that, but wouldn't they all die very quickly from starvation if their bodies are growing and aging at an exponential rate?
Both good points, adding another one here.
Babies heads get pretty big as they age. 15 min in the birth canal would kill the baby and the mom.
Another reason why I wished it went rated R so they would explore the body horror aspect with disturbing bone and skin growths, and them kept alive as they went through it. :( Sad
@@thunderclanliveson1 how amazing could the scene in the cave have been with an R rating 😍😍😍
@@thunderclanliveson1 Body horror effects like in The Thing
Can I just point out how much better of title Sandcastle is than Old. One is simple little metaphor that pretty easy to get while the other manages to somehow be both nondescript and on the nose at the same time.
oLd
Before I knew about the comic it was based off of, I was thinking that the movie could’ve been called “Coral Beach” since the coral kind of tied into the movie. But Sandcastle seems like a better title lol
4 people trapped in an elevator, slowly getting killed off one by one... give it a title.
@@toaarky What are the themes of the story? What kind of message do you want to convey? Do you want to be metaphorical or literal, or perhaps even abstract? Minimalist or light novel?
@@stan8479 the movie i just poorly described (i was trying to start a guessing game.) was called Devil.. produced & written by the same guy who did this.
my favorite line of the whole movie was “it died from lack of attention!”
Trisha Paytas be like
That made no sense. It was immediately in the blanket, so it's whole life it had attention. There wasn't a moment outside the birth canal where someone wasn't holding the damn baby.
By lack of attention, I believe they meant, the child was not fed or nurtured in any way for what was days in their time. If there was any unseen problem with the birth, the time went by so quickly that they couldn't notice or treat it. I agree that lack of attention was a bad way to describe it, but this is what I took from it. Obviously humans don't spontaneously die when people ignore them.
@@2buxaslice i knew what they meant too, it’s just so funny like that, plus the ratio of days was calculated out by another youtuber (if i remember, i’ll tag u in it) and literally like it had another 2 minutes before it would have died like that, it wasn’t even down for a whole minute. besides, that line, in or out of context, is funny as hell to me
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The pregnancy actually bothered me because I feel like it's a plot hole. If everything aged rapidly, the pregnancy wouldn't have even happened. The sperm would have immediately died when it left the male body. It wouldn't have had enough time to make the journey.
And surely if the baby can die within minutes of being born because it hasnt been fed etc, surely they would all die of starvation very quickly?
@@katierasburn9571 Yeah, wouldn't that imply they should be eating, drinking, pissing, and shitting pretty much constantly? There's sleeping, too, but you could at least hand-wave that one away by having them "sleep" in microseconds that no one noticed.
In the book, it didn't make total sense, but it fit within what was happening and it made sense with the themes of the story.
Shyamalan seemed to want the horror of the pregnancy without actually having to deal with the baby.
@@rosesweetcharlotte as Amanda said the book was more of a fable while m night made it a thriller without trying 🙄, he needs to stop ruining films
@@rosesweetcharlotte But there's so much more potential for horror with the baby than without. ugh.
This entire movie feels like a tumblr writing prompt that’s been reposted on Pinterest
God that's so weirdly specific and so weirdly accurate
That’s exactly how I described the story after I read the graphic novel. There’s A LOT of potential to tell a cool story but it’s…just not
And parts of the post are chopped up
LMFAO
And there’s like a watermark in the corner for ifunny or something, the the image is so grainy that it looks like ancient runes
"at least I wouldn't get spontaneously pregnant, I'd just die."
Mood, friend, mood.
The age of onset of schizophrenics is early 20’s for men. If he had schozophrenia, he would have been showing significant signs by the very start. Dementia definitely makes more sense.
Well, schizophrenia often develops in early to mod 20s, but has also been known to develop in early childhood and old age. Theres no "Either you have this at 24 or you dont"
I thought dementia too
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 Very true, but when I say onset I’m referring to the development of maladaptive symptoms to the point of warranting a diagnosis. Schizophrenia is one of those “odd cases” in neurology where multiple factors are required to have sufficient symptoms for a full diagnosis- they need for the brain to reach a state of full development as well as having it present in family history. Prior to the “age of onset” it can be called “early onset” or “schizoaffective personality” but cannot be a confirmed case because the brain is still developing and may reform its connections.
There are also different types of schizophrenia and severities. Schizophrenia that would be exacerbated by age would likely be catatonic, which his issues with paying attention to the surgery would have been indicative of- but catatonic results in a significant decrease in activity, not his weird full blown “final boss mode” behavior. It CAN be argued though that maybe the rapid increase of age could have resulted in brain trauma that affected his brain’s plasticity, but again his early symptoms don’t quite match up.
they said he had schozophrenia in the movie
@@Apryll. Yes, that is the issue. By his age all symptoms should have manifested meaning he wouldn’t just suddenly be in rage mode or whatever. That’s not how schizophrenia works, it isn’t a rage virus. Though guess we shouldn’t be surprised because this director has some weird tendency to make mental illness into some kind of monster transformation point.
As someone who works with dementia patients, the schizophrenia explanation is the epitome of laziness.
Especially since we didn't exactly need him as a villain.
I'm starting to get very uncomfortable with M Night Shymalan and mental illness now.
Especially with Split he seems to keep making digs that mental health is dangerous and Schizophrenia has a big enough stigma as it is.
I thought that maybe he had early onset dementia because of how he was acting off early on before a lot of the really weird stuff started to happen. I really thought they were going that way when the doctor character kept getting distracted with remembering the name of that movie he forgot.
@@amberwillis9617 His "depiction" of DID is insulting and horrific!
@@amberwillis9617 Thank you so much for saying this; I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm a psychiatric nurse and work in acute care, primarily with people who have psychotic disorders. Overwhelmingly, people who have schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders) are non-violent people. They are just like everyone else; they just happen to have an illness that affects their perception of events around them. Most people who have schizophrenia don't become violent, and the ones who do usually feel threatened in some way. Even then, they aren't the "crazy axe murderer" you see in movies. There is a logic for everything. For comparison, large changes in blood sugar levels in people who have diabetes can cause a change in mental status, yet you never see a diabetic reaching for the knives in movies when they become acutely ill. It's very much a stigma attached to schizophrenia.
Shyamalan has now fallen back on extremely harmful stereotypes of mental illnesses in several movies. The "grandparents" from The Visit were violent killers. The reason given was that they were escaped psychiatric patients. In Split, he provides one of the worst representations of Dissociative Identity Disorder I've ever seen! It is also the cause of his violence, despite rarely being the case in real life. Now, we have yet another movie from Shyamalan in which we have a person with schizophrenia depicted as violent for no reason. I find this trend very distasteful and ignorant. I don't think I will be watching any more of his movies until he clearly demonstrates that he has educated himself on mental illnesses and the impact movies can have on people's perceptions of them.
My biggest plot hole: What about how Mid Sized Sedan (god, that name is the worst) was there on the beach with that woman overnight and apparently didn't age and her body didn't decompose.
Yeah I was so confused about that
I think it might’ve been the morning of the same day the other families came to the beach (so like right before the sunrise that’s why it was still dark) but yea that had me confused too
He was brought there earlier the same morning I believe, not the previous day.
I think with her being in the water her body didn't get effected by the effects of the rocks maybe
@@Bog_Dog he was there when the woman was, he was still effected with his nose still bleeding but wasn't there long enough for the aging effects to hit by time everyone else arrived
Thanks for breaking this down. I was loosely curious about this one.
I love you OT 😭
Hi OT
I'm always surprised by how many UA-camrs watch the same people I watch
ONE TOPIC?!?!?
Bruh
Also first furry
I would describe my mental health stability as Mr Shyamalan's career
My sympathies...
Oof
So you're recovering......right?
@@LucianCorrvinus that was sweet, thank you
@@punkinboi thank you, I like your username c:
What's really cool about this, as a concept, is that beach resort culture is so steeped in all manor of STUFF related to age. It's marketed as this escapist world for the young and beautiful, but also a magnet for retired seniors. And it is supposed to be an escape from time, so this makes for an interesting reversal.
My first thoughts were "This trailer seems to show me the whole movie"
Agreed, I only "watch" mediocre movies through UA-cam reviews and trailers now!
You nailed it beyond a twist at the end.
Mine was more a "Another M. Night shamalamqdingdong movie where he's an integral part of the movie"
It really did seem to show a lot. It's sort of especially noticeable because(and I don't know if it's been the same for everyone else) the trailer was constantly showing when I watched youtube videos. I also consistently see the trailer while watching Hulu.
I Hate when trailers do That
Spoiler warning: least believable thing in a story about people aging 2 years every hour was when the cop believed the middle aged man who approached him and said hi, I'm the 6 year old you met yesterday.
Lmao that's such a good point
He probably didn’t believe him until given the list of missing people names, then it became part of his duty to check if said names were actually missing. At that point, he would probably believe anything our protagonist said, to try and get more info. And I doubt our protagonist started off by saying he was 6 years old the day before. But yeah pretty bad movie
He didn’t say he was the 6 year old he met the other day. He just said “you’re a cop right. Look at this”
He didn’t mention anything about his age when meeting the cop after the beach tho
pro tip when you write spoiler warning, put it in caps and put your actual spoilers below it, invisible at first glance. otherwise theres no warning lol
The scene with the calcium deficient woman becoming all mangled and broken made people in my theater burst out in laughter lmao. Not a good sign…
I’m tokophobic(fear of pregnancy and childbirth) and have a calcium deficiency. Soooo I’m just gonna skip this whole damn movie.
I started laughing with my friends because it made me really uncomfortable and she just looked crazy
I watched it alone and that was one of the only parts that was somewhat unnerving to me.
Funny? That was the only scary/disturbing moment in the whole movie D:
Hilarious how she dropped the rock and fucked up her whole arm. And then proceeded to fuck up every other limb.
I honestly thought "Rusty Utensils from the resort," was referring to another rapper
HAHAHA
definitely a horror core rapper
Not gonna lie, Amanda the Doctor is straight up terrifying.
No offense taken, I could barely contain myself from laughing when she name dropped me.
For a second I feared your name was mid-sized Sedan. 😱
@@Eskapismus dude same 😂
Man, M Night Shyamalan reaaaally likes using mental illness to make his antagonists scarier. There was no need to replace dementia with violent schizophrenia, all that did was put a bad taste in my mouth.
These conditions do NOT make you an inherent threat to others although that's what this character and every portrayed in Split would have you believe.
Yeah, Ive noticed that too. It’s a big yikes from me.
I still can't believe split happened and people (including my teenage self) just ate it up like nothing was wrong. Now shyamalan just puts a bad taste in my mouth and that reveal didn't surprise me, just pissed me off. And Aster did the same thing in midsommar too
I really thought what he had was dementia the whole time
He did something similar in The Visit too. The elderly couple had some kind of mental illness too. And, honestly, I don't want to see people stigmatizing dementia either. But stigmatizing schizophrenia has to stop.
Not only that bit people with severe mental illness are more likely to be victims than average.
The fact that someone’s name is “mid sized Sudan” just makes me think that this whole movie is just chaos from a rogue Jojo stand messing with people
Literally just the stand Grateful Dead.
Se-dan. Sudan is a place.
Amazing haha making me want to go back and watch JoJo again!
@@dillonowens3604 no, that's just the stand's name. It's a small version of the country.
There is literally a Jojo stand in Part 5 whose power is extremely rapid aging, called Grateful Dead
Hey can M. Night please stop demonizing people with mental illnesses? We’re not the bad guys, or at the very least most of us aren’t trying to be.
When I told my friend that character bothered me so much, especially bc of the racism, she excused it by saying: oh but he was mentally ill. That's the same as portraying all men in movies as rapists lol. It's wildly assumptuous. Plus schyzophrenia doesn't make you violent like this smh
@@takutolovex I agree but where was racism in the movie?
Personally I don’t think he was demonizing mental illness at all in this. The reason the one character was acting violent is because he was aging so quickly that he wasn’t able to treat his schizophrenia.
@@123rockfan you're still saying that he was violent bc of his schizophrenia. schizos aren't inherently violent. for me I just have hallucinations n stuff
@@kairabyrd2790 untreated schizophrenia can lead to aggression. So if someone is aging years in a matter of minutes I think it made sense for that character to behave like that
"Violent schizophrenia" has me rolling my eyes. Psychotic people are not dangerous, and psychosis is overused (and often used incorrectly) in horror.
I've suffered psychosis, people think you completely lose touch with reality and become violent. That's not true at all. I was very in touch with reality, but my thought processes changed somewhat due to trauma. But I self healed. I was never violent.
Havvvve ya watched 'St. Maud'? 😆
Joking aside yeah, usually people going through psychosis aren't violent. Some are though and that tends to overshadow everyone and create a stereotype.
I can respect/recognize that some of the stigma comes from the internal self-preservation instinct people naturally have, though.
@@thevixter82 Same. I was in a mental health hospital for it and I acted okay and even had normal thought processes. The only thing off was I had an imaginary friend who I would see and have full conversations with, and in my mind be was just another kid, but in all actuality my mind made him up to help cope after years of abuse.
it's also used to justify racism/black pain. Played out....
Yeah, violent schizophrenics are a rarity. I'm saying this as someone whose PTSD stems from living with one. The majority are much more likely to hurt themselves in their confusion or get hurt by others.
Using mental illness as the bad guy is so very often just pure laziness, a writer's crutch, and it's abhorrent.
the graphic storyline of a little girl’s autonomy taken away(giving birth as a mental child) is extremely disturbing and idk I just wanna know who thought that was an ok idea
Yeah it was pretty gross
I mean, I think it works as a concept because in the comic, it's very much about the course of life and childbirth is usually a part of that in some way.
In the film, it seems like Shyamalan just wanted the shock
I honestly thought it was going into the CSA route or that the baby was developing faster than they could it out and it bursting through routes but nope can't explore body horror or a serious issue. Then again I don't trust him to not ruin s serious issue
@@rosesweetcharlotte but why it had to be a six year old girl, they could've made an older women getting pregnant on purpose because she was scared of running out of Time and never experiencing it.
Making someone who's mentaly a child go through it just feels wrong
@@aaa5126 By that point, the older women are too old to be pregnant. And no sane person would be thinking about sex.
I don't know, it's something I got the importance of for the comic because it fit with what the comic was doing. Here in the film, it just felt very gratuitous and off.
The nosebleed makes sense if the guy gets nosebleeds once in a while and would until the rest of his life as some people do. Except in this case it would start, stop, start and stop again.
His blood is clotting he probably would’ve been the first one to die if he didn’t get stabbed and he still probably died from the stab wounds because his blood was clotting when the wounds were trying to heal just like the main dad when he’s getting cut by the doctor his cuts heals faster than wolverine
@@OgGuak420 that's not what a clotting disorder is. you're body has chemicals called clotting factors that are responsible for for example, clotting your blood so you don't bleed out after a paper cut. a disorder can result in blood clotting too much like you're saying, or in blood not clotting enough or at all in the case of haemophiliacs. his blood isn't spontaneously congealing throughout his body, if that was the case he wouldn't be having spontaneous nose bleeds. His blood isn't clotting that's why he has a nose bleed lasting hours in the comic.
I saw the trailer of this movie when I was in Cinema for Black Widow and it gave soooooo much away.
Same thing happened to me. I was intrigued at first, then realized I'd most likely seen the whole plot.
same same
Me and my cousin both turned and looked at each other after the trailer like 🤨🧐
SAME
Was the Black Widow movie good?
amanda ma'am PLEASE - i am meant to be writing a video script right now and i haven't even seen this movie AND YOU DROP THIS - i can't NOT watch it!!!
HOPE YOU ENJOY
@@AmandaTheJedi I am having doubts that shyamalan steals scripts from others, and when it comes to writing his own stories, he falls harder than a pen from a sky. You know, gravity. Come on, the man has The sixth sense, unbreakable, signs, the village, split. One is a masterpiece loved by everyone, the other two are a part of franchise, signs is alien farming movie with water being their kryptonite, and the other is a horryfying tale of pseudo modern age where people want to get out of urban life and want to live a quiet life. I mean, the village was situated in a forest area, where are the bloody forest department officers, let alone has the main protagnist ever seen a airplane or a helicopter on sk.......never mind. She is a blind woman.
wait if they age rapidly wouldn't they die of starvation in like 5 minutes?
That probably would have made for a better film
Barry Allen said he needs a lot of food to live because he moves so fast yet we rarely ever see him eat food he should be eating 24/7 but yea
Honestly if I were the scientists, I would care more about zeroing in on how people affected can heal and grow so rapidly while violating thermodynamics and conservation of mass in the process.
The implications of that are way, way huger than pharmaceuticals.
That’s the explanation for how the baby immediately died.
If their bodies are aging faster, why don't the all have Rapunzel length hair?
Spontaneous pregnancy is LITERALLY my nightmare
The thought makes my skin crawl. I would honestly probably end myself lol
OMG, I used to have nightmares about that too!
Same. I never had the "taking a test I'm not prepared for in my underwear" dream. But I had the "suddenly pregnant and in labor while trying to convey 'no, really, I actually AM a virgin'" dream plenty, especially in my teenage years.
I still haven't watched Umbrella Academy since the first episode features spontaneous pregnancy, and that scares me half to death
@@JuBeeZ106 SAME
The six year olds going for it is horrifying. I guess they wouldn't have had the talk or known what it was so I don't know what they thought they were doing but I doubt they knew it could lead to pregnancy
Just Amanda's description made me sick and anxious.
The whole point is that their hormones are changing as they age so they are aging because the brain is undergoing different chemistry than when they were 6. If they were truly still mentally six they would have no desire to have sex. Animals don't need to be taught what sex is, I suspect humans isolated from society would be able to figure it out as well.
I guess it makes sense somehow, but it still feels really really messed up 😂 Then the birth somehow works, but the Baby's dead anyway. Dunno if the shock factor was worth it 🙈
@@greebmcfleeb5554 people who are mentally children still go through physical puberty
In the movie the dad says "what you did is how babies are made" and the son says " I know but I thought you had to do it like 10 times" uhhh what 6 year old knows those things
“Good ideas, not sure of the execution” sums up 90% of how I feel when I watch his work
Shyamalan is like the game beanboozled. Sometimes you get something delicious, sometimes you get toothpaste; however sometimes people like the toothpaste flavor!
And sometimes you get barf
@@pissonmyboots however some people like barf
Toothpaste actually tastes good for an unconventional flavor. Earthworm, barf, and boogers are the worst for me. Never been able to get them down. I think The Visit is my toothpaste, it was so bad it was funny. But the happening, ATLA, we’re earthworms for me.
Toothpaste is just a minty flavour, really not that bad compared to all the other "gross" tastes
The canned dog food was the worst flavor
The thing that annoyed me the most was that the 30 minutes = 1 year logic is not followed AT ALL.
My favorite part was when the blue-eye 16 year old turned into a 50 year old brown-eye woman
Eye color/ hair color can change naturally with age.
M Night is like Russian Roulette: The Director. Will he make a masterpiece or will he waste all the money you've given him?
Russian roulette except all the chambers have a bullet except one. Which will you get? Your odds aren't good.
Jeremy Jahns fan?
Nah, he has two good movies, his two first ones. All the rest are shit. And I bet if you look at those two, there were other people involved who were probably responsible for their quality.
He funds his own movies
For me, the children remind me of people who spend 30 plus years in jail, leave jail with no life experiences and have “wasted” quality time. The children leave the island in their 50s, which is so depressing .... no children, no adult experience and only seeing death.
I feel u 100% on the pregnancy scene, I first saw the trailer and was like "huh, this seems interesting, I should check it out" and then that part happened and I was like "Ah, I can never watch this movie."
I still don’t understand how she was pregnant but I didn’t watch the movie but whatever
@@fellownerd1138 her and the other boy hit puberty in about 10 seconds and were alone in a tent
@@OgGuak420 I feel like that’s kind of a messed up concept it certainly should not be in the movie
@@fellownerd1138 oh yeah it's incredibly messed up
I've mostly seen people say that this movie has awkward dialogue/acting, which seems accurate.
You pretty much expect awkward dialogue with Shyamalan.
@@marianatheschizoid5912 I'm still haunted by the awkward dialogue of Avatar the Last Airbender
@@47ratsinahoodie " UNCLE EEROH"
The black guy said damn a good 20 times like each scene he was in 😂
M. Night doesn't know how real people speak to each other, it seems. A lot of the childrens' lines are in "how do you do, fellow kids?" territory.
Was not expecting to see a Nick Cage and an M Night movie in the same weekend of 2021. One was an insightful, understated drama that redeemed a man whos career had reached a rough point, fallen into meme status, but then created a surprisingly well-crafted and tender work of art. The other was Old.
Both had Alex Wolff in them!!
@@filmfangirls9163 love that for him 🥰
Yep, both also had a short title composed of three letters, and decent performances from Alex Wolff.
@@ocinidolegna yes!! He's a great actor.
@@trinaq I didn't realize!
Idea for best Shamalyan twist ever! There is no twist! I mean everyone's expecting a twist with a M. Knight movie right? So the twist is that there's no twist! Love it! :D
he already did that
Honestly this movie didn't feel like it had a twist to me. The trailer revealed the beach aged people, so I went in knowing that, it was pretty clear the resort knew about it from the start. The "Why" they were doing it was interesting in a sense, but a twist should make all you have seen be viewed in a different light. This wasn't that. It was just the very simple explination. Why does the resort send them there... experiments. Okay. That's not a twist.
So with the whole Alzheimer's thing; they could have just left the suggestion that his rapid onset of confusion was due to the aging effects of the beach just accelerating the disease and it would've fit fine. They didn't need to "lol actually its schizophrenia" us as if that would somehow make more sense and also man I am so over schizophrenia being used as the gotcha moment of every thriller/horror movie.
I used to work in psychiatry, and the amount of Hollywood nonsense people believe (patients and families) is shocking. I think most people know movies and TV shows aren’t known for their accuracy (for guns, for martial arts,etc), but for psychiatry…many take every ridiculous movie fiction on as absolute fact.
@@Itried20takennames I know it is sooo fucking frustrating and even more with that clown making movies
@@Itried20takennames I don't know in English but in my country, people use "schizo" as synonymous to "multiple personality disorder" when they see someone acting out of character or having a mood change. Mocking multiple personality disorder like this is weird enough, but they have to confuse it with schizophrenia in the process.
Especially M. Night can't seem to let go of this trope. For the amount of movies he's made featuring mentally ill people... just stop! Mental health issues are surrounded by enough stigmas as it is, we don't need any more of this rubbish!
I haven’t seen that happen in a movie ever
i was wondering why she called her video "old" it took me 3 minutes to realise thats the name of the movie. 😂
Me too, I had to do a double take for a second before I got it!
i was 100% certain she was like reuploading content or something
I got an ad for the movie on UA-cam a few hours ago, but the way it was translated into my native language had nothing to do with the original title, so I was trying to find the name of this weird ass movie trailer because I had no idea what the trailer was trying to tell me and here's Amanda to the rescue 😂
Same lol
Honestly I’d do some terrible things for Ari Aster’s version of Sandcastle.
Oof yeah, I'd never be able to watch tho bc his movies trigger my anxiety to hell but God they're so good
Agreed
Appalled to learn this movie's original title is "Old." I mean, yeah, it has to do with the plot and all, but 'Old', really? C'mon, it's like if Titanic was named 'Sea.'
Sounds like Disney came up with the title. Lol.
@@MaiiOrduna lol yeah, that's how 'the ice queen' became 'frozen'
I laughed too hard at my own reaction to this, so I felt I had to share it.
"Don't you mean 'Boat?'"
Or "sink"😂
its suposed to be like a 'fear' type thing. being OLD is a fear for most peopel
Your description of this movie reminds me of a quote from Angel: "If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do."
I thought the “effect” of showing things in the periphery was cool at first like getting the idea that the kids were growing but not directly seeing it, but it ending up feeling like we were just missing the whole movie like when Kara died and we didn’t see her body at ALL?? It felt like watching the movie from another room which kinda sucks especially since we didn’t see the baby until it was a skeleton
i think a lot of it was because it was rated PG-13 and not R. they aren't going to show a wholeass dead baby in a PG-13 movie nowadays lol, especially with all the other stuff they showed.
@@bogdaddy sure but we could have seen the baby when it was alive?
I was hoping that there was gonna be a scare after Kara's death where they discovered that she had already begun decomposing. Instead there was nothing. What a great movie!
Honestly I do wonder if Shyamalan feels obligated to have a twist in movies that might not even need one. Like I wonder if he has ideas for good movies but forces in a big twist unnecessarily because he feels like he has to live up to his brand
Good thing this movie doesn't have a major twist.
I started thinking that when I saw Glass. I thought the first 2/3 of Glass was as fantastic but the twist at the end was so terrible and stupid that it ruined the rest of the movie and it left me wondering why he ALWAYS has a twist
I think this ending was more of a reveal, not a twist
Yeah I feel like he thinks that's his "thing" that sets him aside and puts his signature on the movie which is just unfortunate cause so many of his movies would have been outstanding without the twist. I think he easily could have kept his feel without keeping the same structure every time
@@r520jr8 completely agree, the whole series was ruined for me by that. Won't even watch unbreakable (never seen found out about it after seeing glass) and now pretend split is a stand alone movie with no creature ending 😂 I've been wondering about his twists since midnight meat train tho, the ending just felt so out of place and uneeded to me.
It was honestly a blessing in disguise when these idiots in the front row of the theatre wouldn’t shut up in the beginning of the movie. Because I totally missed the pharmaceutical company conversation. Definitely made for a better ending. Also I didn’t really pay attention to the drinks either.
Why are the drinks special?
@@DeathnoteBB Contained drugs to experiment on test subjects, to see if the treatment would work or not.
Holy shit I didn't realise the actual statistics on this. How many of this guy's movies actually do this to mental health? Is it like 9/10 type shit? Is he deliberately demonizing mental health? I didn't realize it was so common in his movies.
You know ... maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't even realize he's doing it that often. I've seen way too many directors confronted with their reoccurring, obvious issues around a type of person, and going, " ... Oh." I don't know, but my money's on he's just clueless about how his feelings about mental health keep coming out in his work.
@@MoonShadowWolfe 1.) He's surrounded by yes men, and 2.) He's acting like mental illness is a blight on society, not a lived reality for most of us
He's also really ageist. I feel like he is really scared of his own mortality/death in general.
@@dermiker Yeah his portrayals of older/elderly people leaves much to be desired.
@@dermiker i mean, he literally said that his own fears about death and aging were part of the inspiration for old...so he's aware of it to some extent.
Having the camera at weird and odd angles to keep the kids faces obscured so we found out they were older at the same time as their parents was really clever
Except it was on the trailer
@@thatlemonadeguy6742 Yeah but given the circumstances….
It really wasn't it was so obvious like m night has not make a good film in a while it's like he just has glaring mistakes and never fixed them
I didn’t think so because it would’ve been more skillful if we looked at things that literally distracted us from them until they reappear as older. Looking at their shoulders, thighs, and foreheads for 2-3 minutes is just not interesting to look at
while i do think it was rlly obvious each time they aged, i still think it was a cool concept and if executed better could have really made an impact on the movie. of course the trailers spoiled everything but even then when trent and maddox were first shown to have aged despite already knowing that it had happened, i found myself thinking "oh, wild." the 2 minute straight shots from the same angle on random body parts wasn't very fun tho, so def a big emphasis on the "if executed better"
For the medical experiment angle, how were these companies planning on showing their findings to the FDA or similar? They'd still need to run an actual trial to present.
Plus how do they know these things actually work in mass numbers of people? It's just too many variables.
All things considered, it might be safe to say that Shyamalan didn't learn anything from The Happening: if the explanation doesn't make any sense and actually makes a serious story seem ridiculous, then maybe it's better not to bother with an explanation at all. I mean, by all accounts, it worked for the original comic.
Not to mention a trial needs hundreds of diverse candidates and eventually people would start noticing if families kept going missing every time they went to this resort
I think the idea is to see if the drug works before doing the trial. Lots of drugs go through trials to find they don’t work. So the premise is to weed out the drugs that work from the drugs that do not. That way the company on has to put out money on drug trials that are guaranteed to work.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 They wouldn't even be able to get that though because after people realize they're trapped and aging they started dying in unnatural ways. What information about their MS drug did they get from Sedan who was stabbed to death? Same for the girl he was with who also had MS and drowned after swimming out too far. Same for the nurse who also drowned. Not to mention the stress of the environment and the rapid aging itself (which realistically should metabolize any medication they'd been given since they still needed food) could inhibit the effectiveness of any drugs. No explanation would have been far better.
The clean end really doesn't make sense either. Like, the whole thing is clearly a huge operation but they don't have any sort of security or team of people to handle possible escapers? Escapees? Escapists? Like. I expected someone to come out and tackle them or something or shoot the helicopter down. But even with that not happening, why is anyone listening to these people? They're adults claiming that they were children yesterday who have a list of missing people. I would think they were just crazy.
Just the fact that the people in the helicopter were in military uniforms and flying over the weird beach I found ominous. I don’t remember where they said the resort is, but military presence so quickly at the end was foreboding to me.
Apparently the ending scenes were added after test audiences complained about the medical company not receiving the consequences for their actions. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to end when Trent knocks the drinks over but everything after the corals could be a reshoot too.
Old felt like it could've been an SCP movie if it went a bit deeper and strove to hit the R rating as well.
It shouldve been an scp movie. At least then there would've been experiment logs to go off of.
i’m taking movies away from m. night until he can make a single film where a character’s bad choices or actions isn’t hand waved away by demonizing mental illness
I loved how they could hold the incision open with their dirty fingers and have the wound exposed for "months" without any complications...
Pregnancy grosses me out quite a lot, I thought I was the only one. As soon as I saw that in the trailer i was like “haha wow i know what i wont be watching”
Same
it's pg-13. The birth takes place off screen.
@@Analblockage well, of course- unfortunately, the subject matter still makes me uncomfy- gross is gross, man, pg-13 or not.
@@DRUZYDAY so you won’t be having kids because it’s “gross” that’s nice to know
@@OgGuak420 I mean no disrespect to pregnant mothers but I have many reasons for choosing not to bring any children up into this world. However, I do not have to justify what I do with my body to anyone, least of all you. Please have a good day.
me, a schizophrenic: yay another schizophrenic murder. We need more of those in media... woo
Good luck friend! Hope that things change in media perception...our generation can bring this crap to an end. 💜✌🏽
I know, right? I am bipolar with psychotic tendencies. The worst my psychosis will do is having me disassemble electronics and doors to search for hidden cameras, but thanks to media people hear "psychotic" and think I go all stabby stabby.
@@QueerCripple Oh no, people better watch out when you go psychotic, they may get their phones killed oh noooo.
I hate that media loves to pick mental illness as their big bad so often. When more often than not it hurts the person suffering more than it hurts the people surrounding them.
Yeah it was a blanket write off
M. Night is the guy at a party who made a few reslly good jokes and tried riding that high for the rest of the day
You mean for the rest of the year lolll
So I got a new cat a I thought it was a girl. I named her Minerva, or Mini for short. I'd had this cat for about a week and thought it was a girl the whole time. We went to the vet for a check up. Turns Mini is a boy! So now his name is M. Night cuz what a twist!
haha good one
My cat was pregnant when I rescued her and her brother from the crawlspace under my house. Renters had abandoned them. I thought she had 4 female kittens, but they grew up boys. That was lucky, because we did not end up with a third generation of cats. All got spayed and neutered, and I became a too many cat man, because I could not find a home for them.
*slow clap*
Also, congrats on the kitty!
@Ingvild O I was so happy with Minerva 😭 but honestly yelling "M. Night!" when the kitty is bad is go much funnier
😂😂😂😂
Just the title coming up, "OLD" the concept of rapid aging and moving closer to death is scary, but the title name after intense clips feels more comedic. Maybe another title could have been like "The Beach" or "Time's Up"
The problem with "The Beach" is that there's already a pretty famous film with that title.
Or even just use the original book title
So I'm not the only person who was creeped out by the rapid pregnancy in the trailer ? Because I saw it shouted "what the fuck ?!?" Then went to the wikipedia page to see what the fuck that was about and it didn't explain shit at all so I tried to just erase it from my mind.
I tend to avoid M.Night like the plague. I loathe how his 'return to form' is specifically with horror where the twist is 'mental illness'. He's being celebrated for an age old trope that should have died out, and I much rather see him do something original without relying on negative stereotypes. Hell, I had some hope with this, but when it was suddenly 'violent schizophrenia' I lost all faith. I'll just read the graphic novel.
Based on the review the novel isnt that great either... i havent read it yet but idk if the movie like this and the novel like that... i might just pass
Exactly…like it’s offensive and harmful to mentally ill people, but it’s also extremely lazy. It’s bad writing, and it’s not even a twist at this point bc it’s like….really obvious? Most horror movies end with either “idk cult stuff” or “it was all a ~mental illness~ all along! How terrifying!!”
Novel's pretty good
It really bothered me how so many people liked Split. It was so problematic and harmful with mental illness (the stigma of how it's so often associated with violence) and I'm so sick of the 'D.I.D. with a serial killer personality!' like we haven't seen that hundreds of times. Plus the romanticization of sexual abuse like suffering is somehow ennobling. It was gross, to say the least.
Its called equality. Why can’t horror movies be made about both people with and without disorders?
While I was watching I just kept thinking, why wouldn't they go all the way and make this rated R? It seems like a pulled punch the whole time.
That's a big issue but I also feel like this might be some 12 year olds first horror movie and they might love it
@@AmandaTheJedi god bless those kids
Yeah I can imagine that "look those kids became adults so fast awesome"
@@AmandaTheJedi thank you for acknowledging me senpai.
Maybe I’m a weird parent, but when my son was little & we talked about “The 3 Little Pigs,” I concluded the story by saying that they “lived happily ever after in the little brick house….with the mortgage payments.” He’s now an adult, a new dad, and yes, lives in a house with mortgage payments.
Finally someone understands how fucking TERRIFYING is that the TODDLER THAT SUDDENLY GREW UP is the one being pregnant out of LITERALLY NOWHERE
I WANTED TO WATCH BLACK WIDOW IN PEACE AND ALMOST LEFT THE PLACE WITH THAT BIT OF THE TRAILER
Edit: well it wasn't out of nowhere... But _still_ wtf
(not being mean just making joke) ah yes we all been there when we suddenly got pregnant out of nowhere
To be fair I think EVERYONE was horrified by that - it it helps, that's all the movie ever shows - the trailer had it all really
Precisely. Those poor kids will be traumatised by the end, and will be completely unable to function properly in society afterwards. They'll definitely need TONS of therapy.
@@trinaq that girl ain't having a baby ever,like... Ever
@@AmandaTheJedi tell that to my dad who thought I was exaggerating about how disgusted and horrified I was...
M. Nights next movie should have the biggest twist: There will actually be no twist in the movie
Go watch Avatar:the Last Airbender ..
@@LucianCorrvinus the twist in that movie is that he somehow made Avatar into the most boring story of all time
The biggest twist would be him finally not using mental illness as a trope for his villains
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to adapt one of Junji Ito's stories.
I sure hope he doesn't.
god please no
He better fuckin not
Better not, he'd mess it up in every way possible
No hell no he better stay away from Junji ito's work
The amount of people who, like my family and I experienced, went to the cinema to watch Black Widow and got this movie's trailer beforehand, and COLLECTIVELY decided they'd pretty much seen the whole movie is staggering.
I think the sandcastle is deliberately being used since it's one of the things used to explain Entropy. Sandcastles have highly organised structures that will fall into decay as opposed to dunes which might grow or shrink but will still be dunes. The whole thing is a lot longer, no one complain I'm selling it short.
I never wanted to watch this movie solely for the trailer showing that the whole pregnant thing was gonna happen and I rather not see that. Actually I just go out of my way to watch thriller movies to begin with so it’s nice seeing a review of the movie because I was curious but not enough to make myself watch the full movie. So yeah good job on the review.
10000% why Im here exactly
I saw Old the day it came out with my friend and when it got to the part with the pregnancy he goes “No! What?! No! No! They didn’t have to do that! It would’ve been the same movie if they didn’t do that!” And I kind of have to agree because
***SPOILER***
since the baby dies immediately no one has time to process what happened and Kara probably would have tried to climb the rock face anyway. In Trent’s case I could see the argument that he has to live with the fact that his child also died on that beach but because, in many ways, he’s still 6 years old, he probably can’t comprehend the real gravity of what happened which takes any real meaning out of it.
In short, it was a fun movie-at times. Rufus Sewell definitely acted the heck out of his role and did a great job.
Yeah. In makes more sense in the graphic novel, because it ends with a philosophical infant building a sandcastle as he dies of old age. Just the idea of a being like that is thought provoking. The pregnancy doesn't contribute to the story in the movie though
The calcium deficiency death really horrified me. I've always had a bad back, shoulders, and legs, and sometimes it hurts so bad I can't run or even look down. Dying like that would be worse than being stabbed...
I thought it was grossly tasteless and offensive, Chrystal deserved much, much better
Something interesting is that in the movie all the food is packaged in bags made of a metal-looking fabric. I think it ties into the idea of insulating the food against the effects of the beach? Not sure though.
That still seems like Shyamalan is trying to play with the science here when it just makes no sense.
But then wouldn’t the food just instantly start going mouldy the second you remove it?
@@mrcritical6751 maybe? There was the one scene where the girl ate some food without that happening. But the movie never addresses it again, so I’m not sure.
That's interesting. Makes me wonder what would've happened if they tried making clothes from those bags
@@raveng8217 damn guess trent rlly coulda had that metal tube after all lmao
seeing that pregnant kid in the movie immediately threw me off the whole thing. I still wanted to know what happened though, so I'm glad I clicked on this video! Your explanation of both the movie itself and the comic its based on and the themes they both explore was excellent and entertaining to listen to.
I don't get why Shyamalan writes dialogue the way he does
-Either ignores criticism from critics, family members, actors,etc
-Either he tries to be fancy with his vocabulary in a Wes Anderson and Quirky in a Coen Brothers way
-I don´t get why he forces actors to act like robots. Is he trying to be Ingmar Bergman with the stairs and whisperings? Does he watch modern films? Is he social? Is he aware of how people talk in real life?
Okay, but I can’t be the only one who was holding back loud laughter when calcium deficient girl was breaking her bones 😅🤣
Why would the baby starve quickly but not everyone else? Were they eating nonstop?
Because Shyamalan didn't want to deal with the baby.
Also, why the 15 year old gets impregnated? God it just seems gross she a child.
Crystal’s death made me laugh because it reminded me of the guy from Futurama who died of Bonitis.
She was so busy being an instaMom she forgot to cure it!
@@mercuropheliac Her only regret…was having…Bonitis…
the nosebleed was a side-effect they were tracking as part of the anti-clotting medication test patient (im guessing)... so it was commented on if you paid close attention at the end. it was pretty quickly mentioned so its easy to miss.
First it's suicide trees and now rapid-aging stones. M. Night does clearly have a preference for the bizarre.
There actually is a plant that can kind of make what happened in that movie believable called the gympie plant... It's also located on the continent where you'd probably expect something like that to exist.
I didn't even know this was an adaptation of a comic. Then again, the trailer didn't really look interesting to me, so I didn't look into it and, ironically, if he hadn't changed the ending, then the trailer shows it all; people arrive on beach, age rapidly and die...
Which honestly isn't an issue had they just recreated the comic. I like the comic, it would have made a good fil.
The pregnancy part should've been horrifying but the way he filmed it made it seemed like it wasn't all that important at all and was glanced over real fast. those annoying long shots takes away all the urgency of a situation and drags it on FOREVER.
Yea.. It was alright the first time.. weird but alright.. it's a choice. But it quickly became apparent that he'd like swing the camera away whenever something that'd be tricky to pull off was happening.. That way they'd just skip all the interesting stuff.
I feel that Shyamalan's greatest AND weakest point is relying too much on the "twist" mechanic in his moviemaking.
This!!! All of his twists either made or broke his movies. Even some well done and entertaining movies by him were ruined for me by the strange twists he added.
His twists has become his undoing. Everyone expects them now after 6th sense, signs and the village. But then it just went downhill. The Happening was 🙄. It held so much promise with the premise and it failed totally. I vowed I’d never pay to see another film by him. And this sounds just as argh.
Yep. The problem with including a twist in every movie is that now people expect it, so it's never really a surprise.
I feel like even schizophrenia could have worked if they just put in the slightest bit of effort. I %100 agree that a story like this should have had dementia instead, seeing as it’s dealing with aging. Hell, it’d be incredibly uncomfortable and unsettling if one of the kids had early onset dementia instead, and it’d be a hellova thing to tackle. But, while it wouldn’t be nearly as impactful, schizophrenia is also an option.
Schizophrenia becomes worse with time. That could easily have been tackled here, but there were no hints to the guy having it. Just having him answer nothing here or there, an occasional, “what?” while no one’s talking. I’d be fine if it genuinely explored how schizophrenia works, it being more a defense mechanism that is built for a being meant to be paranoid rather than modern human society. Seeing a guy slowly go from a kind of odd, reserved dude to a paranoid, aggressive one, constantly being told in his head that someone’s gonna hurt him would be interesting, in my opinion. I also feel like episodes could have been a topic to tackle, as well as medication or how schizophrenia should and shouldn’t be managed. But no, they took the laziest route possible, and demonized an already stigmatized mental illness.
Kinda makes me wanna’ write a slice of life story about a dude who happens to have schizophrenia actually living a decent life and vibing, since so many people seem to think that’s impossible.
I went out with a friend to see this movie and at the end of the showing she said and I quote “ that was like bad porn without the good stuff”
I wanna know her interpretation of the "good stuff" lol
Lol I saw it with my sister and she said “This movie was so immersive, I felt like I aged 50 years with them”
Amanda's horror at the possibility of a spontaneous pregnancy is just so relatable I kept thinking "yes. YES! EXACTLY!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I saw it today while I was third wheeling one of my friends and her boyfriend, I actually met a really nice movie nerd who I coincidentally go to school with, and we talked about it and how many plot holes there were and that’s the only reason that I enjoyed the movie, it’s because I was talking to him about it constantly
Update us on the story!! I hope everything works out for you, that was adorable
I was convinced I was the only one who really liked The Village lol
I saw it years after all the hate it got and felt it was completely unwarranted
My sister and I also liked it!
I liked it a lot.
I liked it when I watched it as a teenager, idk. if I would like it now, but I liked it back then.
It’s my favorite of his.
Shyamalan's ability to ignore the tone/themes of the source material, and just kinda ad-lib shit when he doesn't like the source material's answers or lack there of never ceases to amaze me. And not in a good way.
This flashed me back to the drug trial I was in in my early 20's. They dropped me because my condition was too severe and I'd screw up their numbers lol
Having only seen the trailer, I found the pregnancy scene terrifying for a completely different reason. (I didn't really register it was suppose to be the toddler).
I thought the baby was going to grow faster than they could get it out, and it would end up ripping the mother from the inside, as it got to big for her body to handle.
I thought the same thing but also realised that it was supposed to be the toddler and was so upset
It reminds me of an episode from Fringe where that actually happened.
I'm sorry , but I can't get over "Mid - Sized Sedan" hahaha
Cool additions to your reviews lately! Clearly delineated spoiler zones, and fantastically fun re-enactments to illustrate your points… great stuff :)
I laughed way too loudly and got some odd looks in the theatre when the name 'Mid-sized Sedan' for the rapper was uttered in the movie.