Ive done similiar coversion using some 224 valkerie brass converting over to 6.5 grendel. when I did in 2021 there was no grendel ammo anywhere, I had/was building an AR in grendel n had enough of a problem sourcing parts!
I like it! I have an AR in 7.62x39 and another in 6.5 Grendel. I didn't know there was a conversion route, so thank you. I have a few brass 7.62x39 cases (I forget the brand.) that roll up the brass at the base like you showed, it seems to do it less so with Imperial Sizing Wax than with Lanolin/Alcohol or Pledge Furniture Polish (Washes away very clean.) as the lube.
Just remember, after brass if formed, fireformed etc, and a bullet installed, the round might still not fit the chamber. Reason is the brass is thicker than the grendel when a bullet is loaded into the brass. Neck turning might work. I have two grendels. One has no problem with converted brass, the other will not feed the round due to brass thickness. So--- I don't use converted brass in it.
Yes, the extractors are slightly different and may not remove the Russian round. So, if using an AR platform, change the bolt head to one for the 7.62x39 case.
Do you need to first fire form the 7.62 brass after sizing using minimal powder charge? And if that IS the case then it means you have to spend money for bullet and powder to fire one first round which is not perfect one, and now it is not cheap brass anymore.. so? Also if I’m correct the 7.62 brass is thicker in some places and will result in higher pressure than Grendel brass with same powder charge. Those are my 2 concerns , let me know if you don’t agree with any of those
Never a problem in my experience, I form 6.5 Creedmoor from 308 and I thought I would have to at least neck turn the cases. No way, I just form them, trim and anneal and load them up. My Savage 12FV holds .5moa with them using starting charges.
Also, I like video but what is the point in doing this conversion? It’s not like 7.62x39 brass is all over and cheap. I just buy American gunner Hornady ammo for 70cent per round, fire it, and reuse its Grendel brass.
This is for people who are smart enough to pay only $0.18 a case for military 7.62x39 brass and $12 a pound powder. But after looking at your video I can see there is no amount of money that you likely consider unreasonable to fix a problem.
B4Ctom1 which powder for $12/lbs? The best performance (highest FPS) powder according to Hornady manual is CFE223 and that one is &19/lbs. and AK once fired brass is more like 23 cent realistically.
Or you could just pick up 7.62x39 brass at the range. Then it’s free, and Bam, brass problem solved. Or work at a gun shop and tell them you want to “clean” the gun testing room. Lol at least that’s how I do it.
Fireform hydro form who gives a shit. I like this guy.
Ive done similiar coversion using some 224 valkerie brass converting over to 6.5 grendel. when I did in 2021 there was no grendel ammo anywhere, I had/was building an AR in grendel n had enough of a problem sourcing parts!
I like it! I have an AR in 7.62x39 and another in 6.5 Grendel. I didn't know there was a conversion route, so thank you.
I have a few brass 7.62x39 cases (I forget the brand.) that roll up the brass at the base like you showed, it seems to do it less so with Imperial Sizing Wax than with Lanolin/Alcohol or Pledge Furniture Polish (Washes away very clean.) as the lube.
I like you attitude!
So you should just take 7.62x39 brass and do this with it to make grendal brass
Is Grendel brass more expensive than x39 brass?
Yes. Especially if you got the x39 brass free or already have a bunch.
More like nonexistent.
Just remember, after brass if formed, fireformed etc, and a bullet installed, the round might still not fit the chamber. Reason is the brass is thicker than the grendel when a bullet is loaded into the brass. Neck turning might work. I have two grendels. One has no problem with converted brass, the other will not feed the round due to brass thickness. So--- I don't use converted brass in it.
Uhhh, a case gauge, right O Tom.
Can 6.5 grandel extractor be used with 7.62:39
Yes, the extractors are slightly different and may not remove the Russian round. So, if using an AR platform, change the bolt head to one for the 7.62x39 case.
Do you need to first fire form the 7.62 brass after sizing using minimal powder charge? And if that IS the case then it means you have to spend money for bullet and powder to fire one first round which is not perfect one, and now it is not cheap brass anymore.. so?
Also if I’m correct the 7.62 brass is thicker in some places and will result in higher pressure than Grendel brass with same powder charge.
Those are my 2 concerns , let me know if you don’t agree with any of those
supposed to..
Never a problem in my experience, I form 6.5 Creedmoor from 308 and I thought I would have to at least neck turn the cases. No way, I just form them, trim and anneal and load them up. My Savage 12FV holds .5moa with them using starting charges.
I don’t think he gives a shit. Don’t be a pussy.
Also, I like video but what is the point in doing this conversion? It’s not like 7.62x39 brass is all over and cheap. I just buy American gunner Hornady ammo for 70cent per round, fire it, and reuse its Grendel brass.
This is for people who are smart enough to pay only $0.18 a case for military 7.62x39 brass and $12 a pound powder. But after looking at your video I can see there is no amount of money that you likely consider unreasonable to fix a problem.
B4Ctom1 which powder for $12/lbs? The best performance (highest FPS) powder according to Hornady manual is CFE223 and that one is &19/lbs. and AK once fired brass is more like 23 cent realistically.
@@r2com641 WC-844 in 8lb jugs and IMI 7.62X39 brass.
With midsouth shooters I got 500 7.62 brass casings for 60 something that's pretty cheap
Or you could just pick up 7.62x39 brass at the range. Then it’s free, and Bam, brass problem solved. Or work at a gun shop and tell them you want to “clean” the gun testing room. Lol at least that’s how I do it.
I don't give a shit . Lol I love it .thanks for the vid .
Please get a better BENCH
Have any recommendations?
What do you think of this one? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NAVFEW
What is that top deck made out of? What do you think of the one I linked? It has like 2 inches of butcher block.
I am asking because it looks like pressboard (not the 2x4 part, but the flat deck part)
Greg if you're gonna tell the man to step up his game at least give him some advice on what use...
That Wilson case headspace gauge is a piece of joke! Look in my channel where I am reviewing much better case gauge for Grendel!
Yes. Everyone! Go check out his video of his micrometer case gauges! Get out your credit cards asap!