All Blacks Depth Chart 2024 | A Team Of Utilities?

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  • @TwoCentsRugby
    @TwoCentsRugby  22 години тому +28

    One thing I didn't mention which Mark (another Mark) from Patreon has pointed out - hooker Samisoni Taukei'aho (27yo, 30 caps) didn't feature this year. We can assume he will be back from his calf injury in 2025

  • @garthinator1
    @garthinator1 19 годин тому +21

    Glad to hear you and I share the opinion on Reece. That kind of behaviour cannot be allowed to exist in society let alone in a national team.

  • @BlairBishop-j7f
    @BlairBishop-j7f 18 годин тому +15

    You're 100% right about Sevu Reece and his behaviour and loss of mana. Just as I was watching, I was thinking about Shannon F and how amazing it is to have someone who seems such a humble gounded person and player in Wallace S bring the absolute beast without the baggage.
    As that other person mentioned there were some good comments about Frizell by the Squidge Rugby guys last year on one of their shows. You guys are vibing!
    Great stuff Two Cents

  • @Rich-l2v
    @Rich-l2v 22 години тому +17

    Love your two cents on Reece! Also, great break down of the preferred players and their minutes played. Thanks man. 👍🏾💪🏾

    • @TwoCentsRugby
      @TwoCentsRugby  21 годину тому +4

      Cheers man yeah I don't expect any players to be perfect in their personal lives, they're all human - but I mean two discharges from convictions.... Nuts

    • @jimsquire-chestnuts8381
      @jimsquire-chestnuts8381 20 годин тому +5

      @Squidge used to be pretty good calling out the players like Frizell who “hit woman harder than he hit rucks”

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому

      ​That dork Squidge, like you, don't even know the full story. If that story about Frizzel were true, he would definitely have been charged.. He wasn't.

    • @Rich-l2v
      @Rich-l2v 6 годин тому

      @@TwoCentsRugby Tbh, I lost respect for the Crusaders as an organisation as a result of their picking him up immediately after his contract in Ireland was torn up after the first domestic violence charge. They would not have “helped the young man” if he had not been an elite rugby player.

  • @JKMeZmA
    @JKMeZmA 11 годин тому +2

    I’d be keen to see this for the Scottish team as there’s lots of chat that they have nothing good coming through the pathways, but they’ve built a lot of depth this year. I’d be keen to see that explored

  • @rory7590
    @rory7590 21 годину тому +9

    Essentially, the All Blacks are quite a settled team after a year of development. Roigard and Telea have moved ahead of Ratima and Reece now even if the depth chart doesn’t reflect this yet. The team next year will mainly be different in the loose forwards with Cane going, although the versatility if the incumbents (who can shift positions) could allow almost any lock or loose forward to replace him. One hopes that they pick somebody in strong form - and the average age of the team will look after itself after then. Injuries might also shift things.

    • @TwoCentsRugby
      @TwoCentsRugby  21 годину тому +1

      Yeah was always gonna be a shift in things with the boys leaving after the rugby world cup. You feel like Razor will get the team in a groove as time goes by

  • @thumbsup6819
    @thumbsup6819 20 годин тому +8

    ABs are moving into great depth except for 12 and 13 , and this is where I believe we are most vulnerable . No traditional 12 or 13 , no disrespect to Jordy hes a fullback and no disrespect to Ione hes a winger one if the best , if we can find speacilist in these 2 key positions we wouldve beaten South Africa .thanks Two Cents Rugby 🏉 Awesome Chur .

    • @rory7590
      @rory7590 18 годин тому +1

      Personally, I always felt that Jordy looked better when he shifted to No.12 a few years ago. He has size and physicality, a lot of skills and a good rugby brain. In the case of Ioane, I think he does the defensive duties well but has never really exploited his athleticism in attack and there is an ongoing concern about his distribution. There could be other options - the AB XV had several and Fainganuku will return in the future too. Another player that has been overlooked because his team was poor was Levi Amua. He looked powerful and, if the Crusaders manage a better season he could make a claim.

    • @icefarrow7959
      @icefarrow7959 17 годин тому

      ​@rory7590 Levi has promise, but also looked a little out of shape last season. I think he's bulked up a little too much.

    • @Thudsrayz
      @Thudsrayz 17 годин тому +2

      @@thumbsup6819 look up Toulon vs Glasgow last weekend. Fainganuku had a great game at centre. I'm hoping he comes back. Might have more to learn but the physicality and distribution skills are there imo

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому

      Jordie Barrett played second five for the NZ U20s. Not fullback.

    • @kurosakiichigo9545
      @kurosakiichigo9545 12 годин тому +1

      @@rory7590 The answer is Tupaea & Proctor. Should start them every tests in 2025 to prepare for 2027.
      DMac 22 & Jordie 23 is fine to cover 10-15 & 12-15.
      Ioane can compete with Clarke & Telea for 11/14.

  • @hermanvisser4034
    @hermanvisser4034 21 годину тому +5

    That looks like a fairly healthy depth chart to me. AB's are in a good space.

  • @Thudsrayz
    @Thudsrayz 22 години тому +6

    Crikey, not often you put the shoulder into a player. But have no fear, i doubt ppl would miss him. Very tired of ppl in nz not getting convicted cos it might impact their lives.... Must admit i was definitely a fan if his and very impressed with his SRP form...
    Really hoping Razor keeps giving dmac more opportunities at 10. I felt like he was really making the position his, particularly vs Ireland

    • @TwoCentsRugby
      @TwoCentsRugby  21 годину тому +5

      Yeah man he genuinely looked the best Crusader in a pretty bad year for them. But man.... Not that I think players should be on a pedestal.... But still ... Surely this is too much

  • @markosullivan6109
    @markosullivan6109 8 годин тому +1

    Great review mate.
    I’d disagree with Cane and TJ being short term inclusions though. There has to be decent long term benefits there with both players teaching the youngsters how to be an AB.

  • @PaulSmith-yc9zp
    @PaulSmith-yc9zp 19 годин тому +5

    I agree Reece should go. On form for on and off the field. Re-instate the no dickhead policy and send him packing.

  • @odhranharte4802
    @odhranharte4802 18 годин тому +2

    I was literally thinking at the start of this video how different things could have been. In an alternative timeline Reece would be playing for Ireland now & James Lowe would be god knows where. Reece is a amazing finisher & a great all round rugby player but abit of a doughnut as a human being judging by his record.
    I'll take Lowes big left boot & good character everyday of the week thanks, looks like Ireland might have dodged a bullet with Sevu.

  • @b3nsh3at
    @b3nsh3at 22 години тому +1

    Sorry, did a double take and had to go back - Fletcher Newell and Pasilio Tosi were both in white - which was white and which one was grey? Would love to see Tosi get some more game time - he was immense!

    • @TwoCentsRugby
      @TwoCentsRugby  21 годину тому +1

      It was Lomax, Newell then Tosi 😁

  • @iallso1
    @iallso1 17 годин тому +1

    I wouldn't have played Cane at all unless injury necessitated in and given Hotham a bit more time rather than Perenara. Mo'unga has to come back, and sooner rather than later. I still don't feel Reiko is the right fit at 13, and we probably need some fresh blood in the centres, all though I don't know who that would be right now.

  • @iainj2
    @iainj2 20 годин тому

    How are we feeling about the Midfield? Felt like Ioane and Barrett were really working in the last RWC but I haven't felt as positive this year.

  • @rabbitss11
    @rabbitss11 17 годин тому

    This next year should tell us if Razor truly has what's needed to take the AB's forward, currently there's good signs but there's some not so good

  • @taraishot100
    @taraishot100 13 годин тому

    Tamaiti Williams is. The man

  • @icefarrow7959
    @icefarrow7959 17 годин тому +1

    One thing no one seems to be talking about is how Plummer said he chose to move to France due to not being given a chance, and in that he specifically listed Razor going on about wanting to bring Mounga back is one of the things that influenced his decision to leave. Robertson has to be willfully ignorant of the effect his actions are having on lower tier talent at this point, as he already pissed off D'Mac earlier this year with those same comments. Hell, Perofeta never even got a cameo, not even against Italy.
    Cant wait to see how much more young talent he demoralises with that conservative attitude of his 😑.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому +1

      No one wants Plummer in the All Blacks

    • @icefarrow7959
      @icefarrow7959 13 годин тому +2

      @JaemanEdwards Sure pal, sure. He just kept being selected for no reason then. Got it 👍

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 13 годин тому +1

      @@icefarrow7959 A ring in at best

  • @epatongan
    @epatongan 20 годин тому

    Leicester Fainga’anuku Top14 form will be crucial for the AB’s to challenging Reiko Ioane for the 13 jersey.

    • @icefarrow7959
      @icefarrow7959 17 годин тому

      Think Reiko's getting benched next year tbh. Better 13s coming through. Clarke is in top form, and Telea has claimed the 14 spot. Reiko will be versatility cover.

  • @ala-hc4rx
    @ala-hc4rx 4 години тому

    Isnt lester fainga anuku coming back to nz next year.he is brilliant breaking the line.i think reikos position may be under threat as centre.

    • @TwoCentsRugby
      @TwoCentsRugby  2 години тому

      Yeah he's back in 2026 I think, so still another full year without him

  • @shaunmahon3415
    @shaunmahon3415 43 хвилини тому

    Will Finlay Christie be eligible for Scotland in a few years if he isn't selected or does the fact he still get a picked for ABs 15 mean we can't poach him after 5yrs 😛?

  • @michaelcollins3666
    @michaelcollins3666 15 годин тому +2

    Completely agree about Sevu Reece. It seems to me that we Kiwis (including me) like to carry on sanctimoniously about the “No dickheads” policy for the all Blacks, but then we forget about or ignore the fact that we have people like Sevu Reece and Shannon Frizzell who have committed some pretty awful crimes and others before them too. It seems like it is a no dickhead policy unless you’re a good player, although I don’t rate Reece in any case.

  • @dylanimatio
    @dylanimatio 10 годин тому

    Is jordie eligible to play next year as he's at Leinster?

  • @MakingMoneyyy857
    @MakingMoneyyy857 15 годин тому

    2025. New players, new super season, i think we will see some new players in the fold

  • @NzInception
    @NzInception 12 годин тому

    Hope Harry Godfrey gets game time at 10 for the canes he gives me Marcus Smith vibes…

  • @USERNAME_72222
    @USERNAME_72222 18 годин тому

    Where is sotutu for ab 15

  • @warrenmitchell4800
    @warrenmitchell4800 10 годин тому

    Samiseni must return, but the biggest travesty in All Blacks rugby is the absence of Hoskins. It's shocking. He outplayed Ardie in Super Rugby and is a true monster No 8 with X-factor skills. It's an indictment on Razer and quite worrying.

  • @churrr112
    @churrr112 21 годину тому

    Caleb Clark move to 12. Thoughts ?

    • @Marius_vanderLubbe
      @Marius_vanderLubbe 20 годин тому

      No brains for that position.

    • @hansneggs
      @hansneggs 20 годин тому +1

      I like it .
      But the real issue is that we havent seen the team experiment with this yet .

    • @Marius_vanderLubbe
      @Marius_vanderLubbe 19 годин тому +1

      He's not bright enough for 12.

    • @rory7590
      @rory7590 18 годин тому +1

      I have abiding memories of his Dad, Eroni Clark failing to be able pass the ball effectively playing at 12 against England in 1993. I feel the same about Caleb Clark moving there, where he has never played before as far as I am aware. I could, however, see him shift to 13 though. Indeed, I would welcome the idea of shifting him to 13 and Ioane to 11….

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому +1

      Has no passing skills or vision

  • @PaulFloors-q4q
    @PaulFloors-q4q 14 годин тому

    I think razor must bring Caleb into the mid field

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому

      😂😂😂 He has no passing skills

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому

      😂😂😂 Caleb has no passing skills or vision

  • @hansneggs
    @hansneggs 20 годин тому

    Tamati Tua
    Salesi Ryasi
    Powerful centres that we’ve lost to top 14 and premiership rugby.
    And I’m sure there’s more I haven’t looked at.
    Razor can’t build depth . He’s being frugal. That’s the massive difference between springboks n France
    N us
    Look at the French rugby system we are up against .
    Look at the open international selection policy (S.A) we are up against
    We ain’t building . We are trying to stretch and save our moneys .

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому

      Settle down. France beat the All Blacks by one point you corn.

  • @daveharris1800
    @daveharris1800 21 годину тому

    Felix Jones is available.. just saying.

    • @TwoCentsRugby
      @TwoCentsRugby  21 годину тому

      Weather is good down here right now too ☺️

    • @ColinGrealy
      @ColinGrealy 18 годин тому

      @@TwoCentsRugbyChristmas forecast is dire!
      Since you so generously gave us (Ireland) Aki, JGP, and Lowe, Jones in return seems fair.

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo 22 години тому

    A team of utilities is what killed the sevens team. All ok, but no game breakers.

    • @JaemanEdwards
      @JaemanEdwards 14 годин тому

      Uneducated comment

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo 11 годин тому

      @JaemanEdwards your mom is uneducated

  • @timwilliams1086
    @timwilliams1086 3 години тому

    2nd five and centre not much depth..SA way ahead in these positions

  • @wlk2408
    @wlk2408 20 годин тому

    Looking at the players used it is clear New Zealand doesn't have the players they had over the last few decades. Razor is going to have to find new players or win with one of the weakest groups of All Blacks I have seen in many decades. The All Blacks use to be a team where you wonder who the coach is going to leave out. Now it has changed, there are clear standouts who you know will play.
    I think Razor also used his bench very differently to other coaches. Which once again reflects on how little top players he has at the moment. He like players to stay on for as long as possible. It makes his bench less important and limits his team to mainly 15 players. A player comming on for only ten to fifteen minutes is not often going to make a big difference in a game.
    I think Razor made a big mistake to not have given more players opportunity to start. The only way to test a player and give him experience and confidence is by starting him. We saw it with Tamaiti, Vaa'i and Satiti, DMac was the only one who didn't make that stepup when given the chance. Still 75% is a good return. It could have been more.
    I would like to see how long the AB's starting 15 play on average before being substituted. Luckily he has three more years before the world cup and not just two like Rassie had before 2019 and 2023.