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In this video we take a brand new "Gen 3" Sig P365 to the range for a 500 round first look. There have been several issues that surfaced early on with this particular handgun which consumers took note of and Sig hopefully rectified in these newer production handguns. Stay tuned, we will revisit the P365 with another 500 rounds of various 9mm ball and carry loads and see if the little gun can make it to 1000 rounds without failure and report back. Much more on the way.
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I have a 3rd gen P365 and after 500+ rounds I have had no malfunctions and it’s the best micro 9 I have owned. Very, very accurate gun. Completely pleased with this gun.
How’s it holding up to this day?
lol broken
Still have it? Still pleased?
3rd gen? 365 think it’s only 1 generation
I appreciate the fact that eric & chad kept the footage of the "user error " in there. It's good to see nothing hidden and also the potential of "adjusting grip/hold" is something to consider in different guns. Great content! Keep em coming boys!
2500+ rounds thru my early production P365, no failures.
Well we are 6 months later June 2019. My 365 is dated Feb 2019-5000+ rounds through it. No problems. Sweet shooter, accurate. No spring scratch on magazine problem, no striker issues, no FTEs, no cycling problems. Striker drag is common on most mini/micro/compacts. Shield included. Love this piece.
Glad to read that. Mine has a BOD of 4-16-2019. Have only unboxed and shot ten rounds so far.
No striker drag on my 43
I believe I had striker drag with my kimber solo carry as well.
A few things:
1. Primer drag is a non issue, in fact it is fairly common on micro compact guns. Its caused by the insanely fast barrel lockup on the 365.
2. The trigger return spring has been updated so regardless if it rubs the mags, it will be fine. Shaving the spring didn't help the situation, in fact it could of made it worst.
3. The striker has been redesigned to be more stout. It wont break despite the primer drag. It was designed to be able to withstand the drag, and its proving to be much better.
4. Overall, the 365 is phenomenal gun. Sig did a great job addressing those early production hiccups early.
They suck junior
@@bassinassassin9077 who sucked junior?
Bassin’Assassin Glock homer coming through. Everybody outta the way
I've got around 550 rounds through mine had it around a month. I think it's born on date is October 3rd. I love it! One of favorite handguns I own. And I have a (few)😉😉. Mine does the same primer drag or whatever but doesn't seem to be an issue as of yet. Good video guys and thanks for what you guys do for our community!!!
My 365 runs perfectly. I tried other 9MM compacts in this category before I bought mine and the Sig P365 felt best in my hands, shot best, no failures of any kind, and most accurate because of the awesome sights. It also conceals better in my opinion even with just shorts and a t-shirt.
I have friends who love their S&W M&P Shields but this will always be my everyday CCW.
Excellent video!
Yes, my Shield has been great. I think its been five years since I purchased it and thousands of rounds of ammo, all different manufacturers and not one problem.
Great vid, as usual. Y'all are very fair in your reviews, which is why I keep watching them. FWIW, I love my P365. Well over 1000 rounds through it now, and it's been great. It took me a bit of getting used to, but it fires 100% for me now. Thanks for your work, and merry Christmas to all.
I have a gen 3 carried it every day have way over 1200 rounds initially when I first got it it would occasionally not hold back on the last round I contacted sig and they asked me what ammunition I was using I told them 115 grain they told me that the 365 was actually meant for 124 grain but it will operate with 115 grain ever since then I use nothing but 124 grain absolutely no problems. As for Tim's broken striker I had absolutely no problem with that but for my own peace of mind I purchased a stainless steel machined striker for only $100 I cannot recommend the P365 enough I carry it with a 12 round magazine absolutely love it . I have no problem recommending the P365 in fact I stake my life on it every day.
mr c thats lame having to use 1 weight ammo, sig p365s are garbage.
Same here, Love my P365, The Only 9mm ammo I run in ANY of my 9mm's is 124 Grain NATO for target (Which is actually +P), For my carry Ammo I only use Corbon 115 +P Hollow points (Both are stout for little 9mm rounds), 0 Malfunctions EVER and has NEVER failed to lock the slide back
“Might be user error” 😂 love you Matt. Good show and an excellent example of why technique and continuous training is something everyone needs. Kinda like driving a manual transmission, takes time.
"My shield does it too". Well you rest your thumb on on the shield slide stop too.
😂
And pretends to milk a dairy cow with his grip 😂
I have had my P365 since March 2018, no issues, about 500 rounds through it, LOVE IT!!!
Y'alls reviews are always informative and nonbiased. Keep up the good work!
Being primarily an 1911 guy I am completely unbiased here. I own many firearms from different manufacturers and my 2nd gen Sig p365 is the probably the best deep concealment pistol to me so far. Many, many rounds ( I don't usually count) and not one malfunction. Unlike some I use different tools for different applications.
I am also a consumate 1911 fan, but love my P365 just as much.
I love 1911's for range plinking. Love them. Beautiful and generally reliable guns. Tried and true. I've owned several 1911's, the only one I have currently is a Springfield a1 milspec, that I gutted and rebuilt with Wilson combat interals. Tungsten hammer, full length tungsten guide rod, tungsten sear, new springs, polished her up a bit, and so on. It's a fantastic gun. I have never carried it. Doesn't make much sense to me to carry a gun that hold 7+1, that's heavier, and uses a hammer with an incredibly sensitive trigger. I know it has a safety and blah blah but I don't carry guns with a safety on. Ever. My carry is a sig p320. I love it. It's a very reliable and accurate pistol. It feels great in my hands. 17+1. One of the few pistols that I can comfortably and accurately shoot with either hand. I understand that doesn't matter to most people but it does to me. I like mixing it up and practicing with each hand.
You sound like a practical engineer knows best fit for the job in hand greetings from London best we have is shotgun and getting a license is difficult I’m very jealous 😢
Just picked up a p365, manufactured January of 2022. After about 500 rounds it’s running flawlessly. I’ve put through about 100 assorted hollow points as well with no malfunctioning. Zero primer drag and quite controllable. I may have finally found my new favorite carry option. After trying 4 different micro 9mm the p365 is probably the best fitting, shooting and controlling carry gun I have gotten my hands on.
Thanks for the review, you are the first ones to have a true review of the problems of this gun. None of the many reviews have mentioned the firing pin drag or any other problems w this gun, I bought a SCCY CPX-2 which is almost the same specs and I had problems w/ it as well but the company took care of the problem within a week w/ a new slide and it works as well as your review of the Sig. I have made the same type shots w/ the same accuracy results. I don't feel so bad going w/ the SCCY that the SIG.Thanks for an honest and accurate review. PS love your channel.
Mine has a born on date of February 6, 2019. Have shot 300+ rounds of assorted 115 ammo without a single issue. Also shot a mag of Horady Critical Defense with no issues. One more range visit like this and I'm making this my EDC.
My 365 is absolutely perfect. 500rds so far not a single issue. Very accurate, comfortable to shoot and concealable.
my wife got her's in July. The first gun SHE ACTUALLY CARRIES... We've put about 700 rnds through it, not one malfunction. We've cleaned it twice. No peening, no malformation of the firing pin, no magazine scratching, or issues with the trigger return... I carry a p938(have for years) and I love it; but next year I plan on purchasing one of these as a second carry option for myself (i honestly thought I'd end up with this one; but she actually, genuinely loves and carries the thing)... Great little gun.
700 rounds is literally nothing
@@Silidons91 No its not "nothing"... most people never even fire 700 rnds in a lifetime... let alone 6mos. The week she got it, we put 200rnds through it of everything from 115gr ball to 147gr Hornady. It ate it all up and spit it out. I get it may not be enough to definitively say it's "battle proven"; but my experience is, in the real world, people, even you Im sure, don't run 700rnds through their carry gun. She did and we trust it. I've put about 2000 rnds through my p938; but thats been over a course of 3yrs. 700 in six months is more than sufficient....
@@boss350z5 it's enough. until it fails. then what.
@@boss350z5 I normally shoot about 400 rounds per range outing...
@@Silidons91 I'm with you on this one.. if I really like a pistol; I might do more than 700 rounds the FIRST time I take to the range. When I go to train or shoot for fun, it's an all day thing and can go anywhere from 500-1000 rounds combined on the lower end. I normally don't shoot less than 350 FMJ 124g 9mm rounds, 150 rounds of HST 147g +p 9mm(carry and HD guns only), 50-100 rounds of .380 for my pocket gun, 250 5.56 rounds for my HD rifle; that's weekly/bi-weekly(I get antsy if I miss a week and still take my carry pistol indoors for 250 rounds if I get a couple hours) 120 birdshot, 50 buckshot, 25-30 slugs in my HD shotgun when outdoors, slugs only indoors. I may skip the shotgun and only take it monthly if inconvenient. Any less than this, and I feel a small decline in my performance...I'd assume the same with other people whether they realize it or not. I'll forego luxuries before I forego practice time, dry firing is NOT enough: buy cheap Tula/Wolf and clean more frequently(after every trip) if it means being able to still shoot. And just because it ran and you kept it on paper in CONTROLLED CONDITIONS doesn't mean it will when everything is fucked and you can't control your body functions 100% Trust that we give you shit because we care, my friend.
I would love to see many of the UA-cam channels come together to put on a 2d Amendment event. Happy to help.
Black Rambo and RGG Already doing it
I got mine early last month. October born date. Put about 500 rounds thru it of steel, brass and aluminum case ammo. No problems so far. Funny thing is that the primer drag is there but noticed that my G17 also has primer drag. Definitely unexpected to see that out of my Glock. Thanks for the vid, I was waiting for this and look forward for other videos on the p365 as I truly love mine.
When I first started shooting I did the same thing lots of times. I was shooting a glock 19 gen 4. instructor fixed my issue and changed my grip I highly improved after that
The average customer is not going to be able to shave that spring down. Shoulda left if as it came from the factory guys.
What's so hard about using a file to shave a mm or two?
Ty Judd- internet “experts” are only good with their keyboard.
@@sqwk2559 I'm far from an expert. I dont even claim to be one, but I am an Average Consumer that has a tiny bit of mechanical knowledge & skill. But claiming that the average person cant take a file & file a spring down a hair is asinine at best!
Very good point.
For as much as they charge for this gun, their should be someone inspecting these pistols for stuff like this.
Great video guys. With over 1000 rounds through it, I can report that I LOVE my 365 (most recent gen).
Ok I'm dialed in..... 2 secs later, turns into Ray charles😎
hahahahahaha
Without further ado.............goes into another 80 seconds of ado...
This guy makes NYPD look like a sniper team
😂
😂😂😂
Mine is a July 1st born on date, and I love it. No issues what so ever.
I would love to see a first 500 round review on all the new releases you guys can get your hands on, love you videos, reviews and information!
I bought one of the early modles. I had problems. I sent it back to Sig. They replaced the barrel, extractor system and some additional springs. It was returned fairly quickly and have had not one problem since.I looks to me that you are using quality ammo, you are seasoned shooters. This is a clear example that this device needs the attention of a Sig professional. It is free shipping both ways. I do not think you want to waste any more time until Sig had corrected the problems that exist. I had the "Voluntary upgrade on my Sig 320. I could not belive the amount of work that Sig performed. I was upon stripping it very visible that some major leauge work was done n it. Best of luck and I hope you allow Sig to make your tool reliable. It is not going to bet better with time. Great video as always.
1900 rounds on my p365, love it and I have to say I trust mine and carry it.
steve lemieux
Thank you I love it too wtf
Keep justifying your dumb purchase. Get a glock and never look back.
Over 2,000 rounds through mine, not one issue. Not a dumb purchase.
@@tseawell90 go try one, I triple dog dare you.
Over 300 rounds, all grains and more than 4 brands...not one issue...sweet and accurate little gun. Extremely well-designed.
I was having a lot of the problems Matt had. Slide not locking back (my fault) and failure to go into battery. Sent it back to SIG and they got it back pretty quickly. The back end of the chamber had a more generous chamfer to it and was polished up. I was having FTB at least once a mag straight out of the box. Cleaned and lubricated. I didn't even have to take my offhand out of my pocket to count the FTB in 120ish rounds after getting SIG's preservative off it, but that is still too many. After it came back from SIG, 300 rounds of Blazer brass - 0 failures.
That because your grip was too high bad technique, blaming others for your own shortcomings is immoral
You are the first reviewer to be somewhat critical of the trigger! I completely agree with your comment about "sponginess", but at least it's consistent and you can train around that. I have also experienced the problem of the slide not locking back, and I know it's because of my grip . . . I attribute this problem to the fact that it's so much smaller than my other pistols. The P365 requires a commitment to train with it. GREAT VIDEO!!!! I'm looking forward to seeing your follow-up videos on this gun.
I have one from June with about 3k rounds, no issues. The trigger gets better and the 12 round mags get easier to load. Needs a little more love is all. I carry mine every day.
I called Sig Customer service today I asked how many had been sold and how many had come back with issues. Sold 200000 and .250% have came back for multiple reasons from finish scratched sights FP you name it. That’s a low percentage of returns. Now I am interested in how many Glock 43s have been sold and how many returned for service. I own both.
I called Glock today. They won’t say how many have been sold or how many have come back. At least sig has the sack to put the numbers out there. I am working up the ladder for an Anser
This is the crucial thing that people seem to forget. They suppose that Glock early adopters (or any early adopters) had a better time of it. They never did, albeit Sig has not handled the situation gracefully. Sub-par PR, not sub-par QC.
Sig has 3 patents on making a magazine this small with that capacity. You think the other gun manufacturers might pay off some UA-cam channels and media so they can even compete? This is the biggest smear campaign we’ve ever seen in the gun industry.
Lol! And you guys dont think sig would lie about the numbers?? Remember sig doesnt think their shit stinks.
BumSlayerS let me guess, you’re a Glock guy and they’re the only reliable gun in the world?
@@Pepsiaddicto hey youre a Pepsi guy im a coke guy. Glock cz smith and wesson sure. Not sig. At least not yet.
Awesome little pistol! P365s made after middle june have been awesome.
My P365, 4/16 build date has been flawless. No scratches on the mag. I swapped the firing pin for an aftermarket version just to be sure but didn't have any failures prior to the swap. The new firing pin did seem to reduce the primer drag on mine. But it still remains perfect to this day.
Thanks for the great video y'all, and I sure hope to get one for Christmas! Looks like 3's a charm for the P365!
Sad you guys shaved down the spring, we want to see it actually work out of the box, not modified.
I want to see a unicorn, too.
Purely done so not to put a tiny scratch in the magazine finish. Didn’t change the function at all.
@@gerrylakeskyline wrong. Even in the video they stated it was so it would break the spring making the gun inoperable
It doesnt do it to the 12rnd mags for some reason...
Hear hear
Interesting. I'm not a hater or fanboy of any firearm manufacturer. I have a P365 and have better than a 1000 rounds through mine. NO PROBLEMS. In fact. I left my P365 in the rod locker of my bass boat during July Alabama heat and humidity by accident for about 2 weeks. The damn thing did have rust on the front and rear sights. And had about 300 rounds through it without a cleaning. Shot about a 100 rounds through for kicks and didn't have a single problem. Yeah. afterward I showed it the love and gave it a full spa day and it looks as good as new. Perhaps I got the golden nugget of the bunch and got lucky. But I refuse to be a hater. I respect the research and development process. What I find very interesting is that US Army is investing mega millions in the P320 (M17) and several countries around the world have placed great faith in the Sig product line. And yep the 320 had some issues as well. And truthfully, I think it was a bad idea for the US Army to reject the M9A3 that would have been a much easier transition for the armories and soldiers over the M17. And that is not a rip on Sig or Beretta. Perhaps, just perhaps Sig did not fully vet the firearm before marketing. But the M16 had a boat load of problems in Viet Nam. But not too many people 50yrs later would say the AR platform was a failure. And Sig has lost and spent a boat load of money honestly trying to rectify the problems. Instead of being haters, be developers. The world would work better that way.
Good point on the M16.. gives some perspective for sure. It is interesting though that a major brand such as Sig would have so many little issues with a new pistol. I guess that is the result of pushing the envelope with what's possible in a subcompact.
Glad to read about your experience. Also Bama and mine has a BOD of 4-16-2019.
Bradley Erickson As a VN vet who was issued an M16 in 1966...Nicely said. Too many folks mistakenly ignore and avoid history, to their and society’s detriment.
Or....the could have just bought the 19X like the should have. However they instead bought a gun with a telephone pole sized grip...god forbid they use the simplest and most robust modern handgun design...sorry for that rant
I live in Atlanta and I’m a Glock guy. However, I have 1400 rounds through mine with no malfunctions. I’ve broken it down, pulled out the striker after every range trip and it is solid. Born date is May 16 2018. I just bought another one three days ago born on December 1st 2018. Once again no malfunctions, no scratched mags , etc. My daughter and my niece shot it as well. No malfunctions and the slide locked back every time, even with my niece that doesn’t shoot often. The pistols are good to go.
I just bought one at the end of July 2020 and had a chance to shoot it this past weekend. I love it, and it shot great. Had 2 boxes of ammo, so I only put 100 rounds thru it but was pleased to see that mine has no primer drag what so ever. It's fun on the range, I have a 15 round clip besides the 2 10s that came with it...they empty quick.
Thanks for the review guys. I’ve had my P365 for 7-months. It’s my daily carry weapon and I hit the range every other week. I have the same striker drag, but I’ve never had the slide fail to lock back. I absolutely love this pistol. Even w/ the 12-round mag it’s still very concealable. I did buy a titanium backup firing pin, but have not had to change out yet. BTW - Matt’s hand seemed high to me.
Can you pocket carry with a 12-round mag?
Iv got a gen 2. I just broke 3000 rounds through it. No problems from mine. My edc
there are different generations of the p365?
Fixing a flaw doesn't make it a "gen 2".
Props on having 3 different shooters test it. Don't typically see any channels do that.
That's a good video lads. They're never too long when it comes to testing. Again thank you. Keep doing it
Shooter #3 his riding the slide stop with his thumb. It happens with subcompacts pistols frequently with different hand sizes.
You're assuming this, and you don't know this for a fact. Also riding the slide release would explain the slide not locking back on the last round, it does not explain the pistol repeatedly failing to go into battery.
He’s also riding the slide with his thumb, guaranteed. When you put pressure on the slide with your thumb you can cause FTE’s, failure to return to battery and all sorts of stuff. You can really tell he doesn’t shoot very much.
@@Banshee365 it may be true that riding the slide is contributing to the malfunctions. However, not every pistol react the same way to the same level of pressure being applied to the slide. How much slide pressure is required to cause a malfunction depends on the slide velocity, the recoil spring, and excessive internal friction due to tight tolerances, or something obstructing the movement of the slide. From the number of people experiencing these types of malfunctions with this pistol, it seems to me that it is much more sensitive ti pressure being applied to the slide, then other pistols of that size. I have quite a few pistols, including several small subcompact and even pocket pistols, and I tend have a high grip, and ride the slide a little bit on all of them, yet never experienced these types of malfunctions.
mo hawk: I have over 1,800 rds through my P365 & I’ve had ZERO malfunctions. Every shooter is different as this video proves. Two of the 3 shooters had no problems whatsoever. When shooting these small subcompact pistols I think a modified grip is best. Thumb placement is key to running them smoothly. Obviously the 3rd shooter was doing something different in the video & he even admitted he was riding the slide lock in the video. The P365 has gotten a bad rap but not all the issues are gun related. This video proves my point.
@@glockoholics7512 when you have that high percentage of pistols on the market having failures, and that high percentage of people that have a problem with this pistol, it is not likely that it's just the habits of the shooter that's the problem. As I said it's quite possible that pressure on the slide is contributing to the malfunctions, but given the number of people having these types of issues with the p365 it seems evident that it is more sensitive to that sort of thing than other pistols and its class. Every gun is physically different and I'm glad your example works well for you, but there's clearly an issue with either the design, or Sig's manufacturing process for this pistol.
Eric: "I CAN COUNT!!"
*proceeds to hand Chad a 12 round mag with 7 rounds in it 🤣 20:45
I swapped the striker with the upgraded Lightning Strike striker (just because I could), and added a Lima365 laser. Absolutely love it and haven't had one single issue in several hundred rounds of various ammo. It happily eats HSTs and literally disappears IWB. Sig definitely has a winner here.
Just gave my wife one for Christmas. Looking forward to trying it out, if it ever stops snowing. Thanks for sharing.
"Accuracy not terrible??" 10 hits in a row, I would say thats excellent!
I carry mine every day. 13 rounds slimmer and shoots better then a shield or a Glock 43. Mines at around 1500 rounds. No real issues other then me riding the slide catch at first. But honestly the gun is a champ!!!
How is holding up two years later?
@@peekaboo1575 sold it I carry a compact gun realized i shoot much better with and can conceal a compact gun the same
Waited a long time to get my P365. Just picked one up with factory date of Nov 8th. 200 rounds through it with no issues.
There have been so many rolling changes you probably have a good one. The big one is the change in firing pin design. Keep an eye out for the magazine being marked by the trigger spring.
glad to see chads doing well, felt like i haven't seen him in a while idk. happy holidays!
A highly reliable gun that has the advantages of a micro compact but shoots like a compact. I LOVE my 365.
Preston Pope when did you buy P365? did you have any issues with it? what gun did you carry before you got P365? I am looking for some reliable gun I could carry - tried glock 19 it was printing too much on my body so I need something smaller. what do you think about ruger LCP 2 with laser as a pocket gun?
Please do a Hi-Point carbine 45 ACP meltdown just for the hell of it in honor of Barry
@2nd Amendment for Canada! Barry was a older member of the channel he passed away a few years ago
Better yet convert a hi-point carbine to 460 rowland then do a meltdown !!
Hells yes!!! I like guns that shoot! It's even better when that gun costs three hundred bucks and I can let bounce around in the back of the old ferd pickem up , slap a mag in and pull the trigger a bunch and it goes bang every time!!!!
I don’t think it’s physically possible for a human being to cycle a highpoint carbine fast enough for long enough to heat up a highpoint to the point of failure. Even JM’s superhuman finngers would cramp up cycling that god awful trigger before he could melt that gun down.
A billion likes
Ive owned this gun for 2 months and have 1500 rounds through it(all 1500 have had primer drag). Ive not encountered any issues with its passed 350 rounds. I had the same issue with the gun not going into battery caused by the firing pin assembly sliding the backplate down. But like i said after the first 350 rounds i never had an issue with going into battery, or any other issues at all. Other than the slide not staying open when newer shooters handle the gun i havent been dissapointed in this product and have really been enjoying taking it to the range.
About 350 of the rounds ive shot through the gun have been factory loads other than that the rest have been handloads. Once i encountered the issue with it not going into battery i lightened my handloads and i like to think that may have been the reason it has been fine since. Every time i had the battery issue (which was 3 or 4 times) i was shooting my reloads.
I hope this info is helpful to other shooters out there!
I have both a SIG 365 and a Glock 43. I have had no problems with either pistol. I typically run 100 rounds or so at the range then go home and clean the pistol. So far I have ran about 800 rounds through the Sig 365 with no problems. I waited until Sig fixed the early problems before I purchased mine. There are two things I dislike about Sig and the Sig 365. First I don't care what Sig says, I don't like the firing pin drag problem. Secondly I don't think Sig adequately tests commercial firearms before releasing then to the public. I have had to return several Sig rifles and pistols for upgrades and repairs. That said they always fix the problems. Lately I have been using the 365 for my every day carry. If it turns out to be not reliable I will switch back to my Glock 43. Good video, thanks for making it.
My XD9, 45 shield both swiped brass like that, thousands of rounds no problem
Your guy in the blue shirt was limp wresting it. I think he is the issues... it’s a solid gun!
I disagree. I watched over and over and the kid's wrists were locked solid. If anything, it was just as they said, riding the slide release lever. That can happen to anybody because of our different physiology. That's why we have so many guns to choose from. None of them work for everybody.
Heck, I think it would be a great idea to bring him more often on all new gun shoots! We don't need every gun review done by old bastards like us that have already been shooting for 30 or 40 years.
He may not be hitting too much but it looks like he knows how to use a firearm.
@@deckert618that would cause the slide to not lock back but not the battery issue. Strange!
I work at a gun shop. We noticed this failure to go into battery on a display model. We got it to stop by working it a bit. We looked at the other 12 we had on hand and this was the only one with this issue. I’ve only seen it on the most recent gen 3s from the factory.
These videos are so important. I had major issues with 2 of my carry guns. They happened at 500 and 800 rounds.
It cannot be overstated, you have to put rounds through your guns before you trust them. If I had a nickel for every time I saw a guy at the range shoot his SD gun for the 2nd time in 2 years and have malfunctions...
Failure to feed, failure to eject/stove pipes, magazine issues, improper ejection (brass to the face), last round hold open, jamming, etc...
Good video. Great idea having multiple shooters. Like Eric I want to like this gun but having to make spring modifications right out the box makes me a little nervous. Maybe their next batch will be better. I would still invest in the gun if the price was a tad cheaper.
Only problem I've had with mine was caused by steel cased ammo. It runs brass and aluminum case just fine. My favorite 'little' gun.
Exactly what I experienced.
I still have a gen 1 with a serial number under 500. Only thing i did was send it in for the sight upgrade. About 2,000 rounds through with no issues.
Bought the P320 last year and the P365 this year. I really like both of them no issues so far. I like the grip better than a glock and easy to take down.
I had problems reassembling but after finding the right video I got it figured out. Mine locked up on reassembly and had to take it back into Cabela’s. They figured it out but their explanation didn’t make sense. Thank God for uTube videos.
I have 2500 plus hundred rounds through my 365 without a single issue firing every round. Mine is a second gen and was purchased in May of 2018!
My front sight broke off while firing at around 2000 rounds or so. I called Sig and they sent me another one out and I received it just a few days later and have continued with zero issue.
I love the gun.
FYI- I think it is important to understand the uniqueness of the magazine capacity in relation to its size. Yes it is a double stack however, it is much thinner than a any other double stack made. It’s just a slightly thicker than a glock 43 single stack mag.
My glock 42 mag with the SI extension on it giving it two extra rounds for a total of 8 in the mag is taller than the 365 mag holding 12 rounds. My point is that the Sig365 holds way more rounds than the glock 42,43 or even the 26 and it is smaller than all of them!
As for recoil, in my opinion, it is less snappy than the G43. It’s less angry of a snap and very very manageable. I promise this to be true! I carry it with the Sig 115grain defense ammo and practice with a variety of 115grain ball ammo and it shoots super great. Interesting idea on the porting though and I think I will try doing that to mine!
Did I tell you that this gun is smaller than my Glock42 and holds 12+1 rounds! Pretty fantastical! HA!
Biggest negative in my view is Sig’s lack of addressing the issues with the first gen of the P365 publicly!
They should have made a solid UA-cam video talking about it openly and telling everyone what they were going to do to make the situation right and then kept us up to date as they solved it. That to me would have been superb integrity. Other than that, Sig makes sole of the best firearms out there.
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"the sights are excellent on this pistol". Yes. Yes they are.
I have one, it shoots fine, very accurate! Have the ported Shield as well! Like both a bunch!
First 1,000 rounds through mine, so far so good... born on date Jul 14, 2018, no complaints yet.
My P 365 has 3000 rounds thru it flawlessly! It has primer swipe which is not an issue with a properly manufactured striker. A striker is many times harder than a primer and only is an issue if the hardness on the striker is manufactured incorrectly.
Ammo used: Sellier & Bellot 115 gr. FMJ
Frame manufacture date: 11/17
Manufacture Date: 04 Feb 2018
Purchase Date: March 5, 2018
Purchased from: Bass Pro Shops
Model on box: 365-9-BXR Pre-production release (T&E) & Early release had 365-9-BSS
BSS model was Siglight sights - BXR model is X Ray sights same used on Legion Pistols
My P 365 has never been sent to Sig for anything and was purchased over the counter at Bass Pro Shops. In 3000 rounds I had 2 shooter errors Thumb Riding Slide stop which I knew I did.
What is noteable is my pistol had X Ray sights and barrel and slide mill work done in March before the internet reported all the issues and fixes.
I carry it with confidence and would purchase another P 365.
"There's no such thing as free lunch in physics." I believe it was einstein that said that, right?
Great video. Glad to see you are giving it a fair shakedown. I just posted a video of 500+ rounds through my P365. Like you I want to see it a success, but I'm not afraid to ditch it if it gives me issues in the future. So far mine has no issues (born on date of 11-23-18). Keep up the great work! Love your vids!
1000 round through my 365... my favorite gun ever... not a single malfunction.. my first sig
I greatly appreciate the video, however, the so-called “primer swipe” is a non-issue, greatly hyped by people like Tim at MAC. Quite a significant amount of compact handguns have a similar affect.
I had to adjust the grip with my 365 as well so I wasn't riding the slide release. I really like my 365 (august born on date)
I have 1.300 trouble-free rounds through my P365 gen2. I did install the stainless steel striker - just in case. Shoots awesome for such a small gun. Very happy with it. Thanks for the video and cheers!
Does the stainless striker still drag on the primers? Like my Kahr P45?
P C yes, but less than the original Sig striker.
P365 is a very reliable edc. I’ve just recently purchased my P365 and I love shooting it. I’ve shot over 500 rounds and it’s a pleasure to shoot.
For some reason, my P365 came with three 12 round mags? Love them. The length exactly fits my hand! Someone said their gun held 1 more round (Hellcat) If I need more than 13 rounds I am in a world of hurt from the start. And so is he with 14 rounds!
Perfect example of not every gun fits every shooter. I've been keeping my eye on the P365 videos to see if Sig is working out the kinks. I love shooting steel, love to see people demonstrating safety as well. That being said, put your eye pro on Matt. Especially when shooting steel. Very rarely is there splash back, but I've seen it happen several times. Sometimes the shooter gets it, sometimes the range safety officer.
Looking at getting a p365 in 2019. Hopefully they are good to go now. Seems like that is the case. Anyway, good video. Maybe the Mrs. should have been doing most of the shooting in the video to see if she liked her new gun or not.
I've got a very early P365. I've now put about 2000 round through it with ZERO issues. No mag scratching, no firing pin drag, nothing. It is 100% the BEST carry gun I've ever owned.
I like these guys. Good natured. Knowledgeable. No stupid loud music etc, just couple of guys shootin and chattin.
I carry the P365 for my EDC and have around 900 rds with only 1 ftf. I really like this gun!
Not sure what the big issue with the 365 is. I bought mine in June and it's been flawless!
Mine has a born on date of February 15th. No modifications. Over 5000 rounds from many different shooters. No failures whatsoever. Shot the first 1000 rounds right out of the box, no cleaning, etc. It's just remarkable, nothing further
I like where the trigger breaks on this gun. Not too far back at all.
Also love the grip texture when it's in your hand, though I'm sure it's rough on your skin when carrying.
The p365 is just an awesome pistol and the striker and trigger spring problems were fixed in June.
Had to trim the spring right out of the box. Still not ready for prime time. I've bought my last Sig.
Can't blame you, for the $ those suckers should be perfect!!! But if you get a chance to try there 1911 style 10mm, you might get a kick out of it, I'd trust my life against a bear with it ;)
It's only the cheaper newer ones that have problems. Funny thing is the designer of this and the 320 is the same guy that ruined kimbers legacy.
MIM trigger, sear, hammer, slide lock, trigger bar, and safety. All those are present on $1000+ kimbers and it's easy to see why these break strikers and mag area springs
What is your date of manufacture
@@Baf630x date of manufacture should not be important guns shipping with factory defects is inexcusable especially from a company like Sig.
@@JohnDoe-nf7up Except it is important. So if you can't answer it, shut the hell up. Fking convenient-ass response. "XYZ fact shouldn't matter" whatever.
I have an early P365. 2000 rounds, just had my first issue with a single failure to eject. No other problems.
Having a specific grip that works for that gun is definitely the realm of micro-pistols. Bigger guns don't have that problem since your hands are not crammed into a small space like the micros.
7 out of 10 of the P365s I sold when they came out have gone back to Sig for repair. Not a good ratio. If the trigger reset spring issue (spring that drags on mag) hasn't been fixed then it's still no-bueno. We've seen that spring break from fast mag changes and the lip of the back of the mag catching on that spring and breaking it. The result is a gun that only fires when held upside-down. Sig, get your act together. This is the third gun in a row that has major issues (the others being the P320 drop safe issue, and the MCX bolt issue)
Sig only cares about profit and not quality. They use their customer base for Process Improvements.
Q James
Yeah man. You stick with your High Point
Grey Wolf Armory nothing wrong with a “gangster gat” shoot the blickie upside dow
Thank you for mentioning the issues you are seeing. There are so many taking sides with this firearm and are calling people that mention issues out right liars or that they are doing something wrong.
I get that guns are not perfect and they have issues and all that, but issues are still issues regardless.
@@rueridge7597 I bet the High Point is technically more reliable than the 365 lol!!
Matt operator error
I bought the 365 and 365XL, and I’m definitely a Glock guy. Carried a G43 since it came out. But these Sig’s are great guns, the size and capacity are game changing! I really like both brands.
I'm impressed with Chad's accuracy. Great video guys.
2000+ rounds through mine. 0 issues
3000 through mine no problems. And that's mostly with trash steel case.
@@fattywithafirearm Have not fired steel case yet. Wouldn't expect it to have any issues though.
I just got mine. Born on date is November so I'm sure it's the most current build and I only have 300 rounds through it so far with no issues and amazing accuracy. I'm not seeing any scratching on my magazines, but the primer drag is somewhat concerning.
@@codydavenport8429 Your striker may break if the primer drag is bad. That's another issue the 365s have presented. Keep a close eye on it. If I was you, I'd probably shoot very soft primer ammo only. If and when Sig finally sorts out the striker breakage, hopefully they do a recall rather than forcing you to break it yourself.
Jake Wallace you’re one of the 3 out of 10 that didn’t have issues. Therefore, your 2 cents is worth about that.
My first concealed carry gun was an XDS 45. I'm sure this isn't half that snappy.
600 rounds through mine so far, not a hiccup. Recoil really manageable and fits my fairly big hands great. All new guns have teething problems.
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Matt's thumb may have been rubbing the side of the slide, causing the slide to not go into battery. On sub-compact pistols, and slowing of a lightweight slide will have this effect.
Still concerned about the firing pin swiping the primers, but reliability seems to work.
Keep us updated as you and Brittany continue to train
I third that
I was going to say the same. He has a high thumb grip which can both slow the slide and can commonly cause you to ride the slide catch. When he moved his thumbs down the shells ejected further and it locked back.
Most definitely. He likes a high grip.
That’s exactly what’s happening. I appreciate his service to our country, but he’s a very novice shooter. Or that gun just isn’t for him.
Yeah, I totally think the same thing. As soon as he adjusted his grip everything worked as it should. I believe he did make sure to note that it was user error. -_o
My trigger reset spring broke after only five or six rounds. Took the gun apart and unlike everyone else with a spring that's too long. My spring was way too short. I didn't want to deal with Sig customer service so I used music wire and wound my own spring. Literally took me less than a minute. 200 rounds later with no malfunctions.
I hope your kidding. That's crazy irresponsible if your carrying that gun. If your not carrying it good job. MacGyver
@@joshualemaster9328 irresponsible? How is that irresponsible?
@@joshualemaster9328 I've been winding my own springs for 3 or 4 years. This job was Soooo easy I could do it blind folded. It's only 1 coil!
I give it 200 more rounds max before your striker breaks
That is great! If.. Glocks, S&W, Berettas, CZs: Even Canik all needed modification to work. But actually you can pull those guns out of their packaging: And go shoot 10K rounds without an issue. You can get a gun that is better, for less.
I had problems with the gun range P365 rental going into battery. After I bought a P365 I will occasionally experience the slide not locking back on the last round. The problem is me. I am having to learn to rest my weak thumb on the accessory slot and not higher on the slide. The real problem is my big hands using a small gun. The P365 is my daily carry, and I love the concealability of the gun. Sig hit a home run.
Very to-the-point and informative to someone considering a small auto vs a J frame.