GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin

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  • @HMZeroTwo
    @HMZeroTwo 2 роки тому +464

    "Summarize the game's plot in one sentence" Simple: People, Jack in particular, want to kill Chaos.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 2 роки тому +34

      Nomura does a Kingdom Hearts story in a Final Fantasy world for once.

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 2 роки тому +34

      Find Chaos > Kill Chaos > Become Chaos.

    • @nachomartinez8978
      @nachomartinez8978 2 роки тому +25

      I think we can omit a few words there, let's see..... we get rid of "Jack", "particular" and "in".
      We can also get rid of "want", "people" and "to"
      Oh, and "kill" can go to
      Yep, that's it, that's the game, just.... chaos

    • @cooliomendez88
      @cooliomendez88 2 роки тому +6

      He said “in under one sentence” which confuses me

    • @jameilsnegly6821
      @jameilsnegly6821 2 роки тому +5

      Wake up, eat, chaos, repeat.

  • @Soxmember69
    @Soxmember69 2 роки тому +245

    Man. SOOOOO many people thought the Bullshit scene was an edit. It was always funny seeing their reactions to it.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +41

      That was one of the most memable moments in gaming history. Thats up there with "Wipe this meme from the face of the earth"

    • @krimsonk-9478
      @krimsonk-9478 2 роки тому +6

      I got bored of the dialog and came to the comment section to read your comment.
      As soon as i read yours and wondered when id be hearing this part...i heard it.🤣

  • @bladestormX
    @bladestormX 2 роки тому +258

    Jack interrupting monologues is hilarious

    • @GrymmSoul
      @GrymmSoul 2 роки тому +8

      And there's the one sentence summary for the game!

    • @mariokarter13
      @mariokarter13 2 роки тому +34

      >Blasts Linkin Park
      >Refuses to elaborate further

    • @mrsgamer9218
      @mrsgamer9218 2 роки тому +2

      @@mariokarter13 its not linkin park

    • @Hexados-666
      @Hexados-666 2 роки тому

      @@mrsgamer9218 it’s limp bizkit

    • @mrsgamer9218
      @mrsgamer9218 2 роки тому

      @@Hexados-666 its not limp bizkit either. Its confirmed a japanese band. Look it up.

  • @lwazinkasawe3887
    @lwazinkasawe3887 2 роки тому +236

    "After playing most of From Software's Dark Souls games, I've grown accustomed to the plot being none of my damn business." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this right here needs to be on a shirt or something

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +6

      idk I understand the stories of all the Souls games after watching Vadividia. its not that hard to understand once its all summed up.

    • @inebriationconversation4526
      @inebriationconversation4526 2 роки тому +27

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 right thats the point, vidya does all the heavy lifting for you

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +3

      @@inebriationconversation4526 Not my fault. I dont have a playstation, and even if I did I dont hate reading. Regardles, Souls game lore never leaves me feeling bored.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 2 роки тому +10

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 You forgot to mention the big gaping hole that is the majority of the plot being pure speculation. Vaati has a great perspective on it, but he's mostly just making up stories based on the tidbits we're given in the games, nothing he's ever said is set in stone, and he's had the games contradict him as DLC and new entries come out -- remember the old "Harvest Valley is the remains of Anor Londo" theory he tossed out early on?
      Don't get me wrong, the whole reason we get so little actual confirmed fact is specifically to facilitate this sort of thing, and it's great, but... you can't summarize it all when there isn't even enough hard information to summarize. The best you can do is theorize about what actually happened based on these little snippets. In other words, the plot is "none of our damn business," we just decided to force the issue and come up with stuff to fill in the (massive) gaps.

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 2 роки тому

      Yeah, without there being really a plot to make them different, it's almost surprising how Dark Souls fans are willing to just keep buying the exact same game over and over again. Then again, Call of Duty fans exist and have made that normla long ago, now i't's just the same thing but with a different series name.

  • @TheCyclicGamer
    @TheCyclicGamer 2 роки тому +152

    The spaceship thing and robots isn't a sin. In the original Final Fantasy on the NES, flying fortress was an actual space station and you did have robots as enemies there, but in the subsequent remasters of FF1, they changed flying fortress to be just that, a medieval fortress that hovered in the sky with waterfalls, even though that wasn't the original design.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому +17

      BRILLIANT

    • @bahamutskingdom
      @bahamutskingdom 2 роки тому +31

      Thank you for posting it. Took the words right out of my mouth.
      The original NES and PS1/GBA remakes the flying fortress was futuristic, robots, the whole 9. I also was shocked at the sin, considering the original game.
      That being said......I am 43, and that original game came to the US when I was 13. Sooooo 30 odd years ago.
      I am certain this guy is not that old.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому +5

      @@bahamutskingdom Almost 42 here
      It was my first game after SMB3 bundled in the console
      XD

    • @russellvitranoiii3504
      @russellvitranoiii3504 2 роки тому +2

      FF8 had spaceflight too.

    • @Justforvisit
      @Justforvisit Рік тому +1

      @@russellvitranoiii3504 FF VIII was set in a futuristic setting though.

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 2 роки тому +44

    12:20 - fun fact: your crazy theory for the NPC Dialogue is actually correct! That wanted it to feel as bland and sometimes bizarre as the old 8 or 16-BIT titles. I loved how Biggs and Wedge just repeat the same generic line in every chapter you can speak to people in Cordelia too, despite them showing up as new lines.

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios Місяць тому +1

      That just feels like a crazy mindset. If they wanted the NPC dialogue to feel THAT dumb, then it just makes it worse when you’re supposed to feel bad for the characters, but in the end you’re not.
      Cope harder next time

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 11 днів тому +1

      Yeah what a bizzare justification at laziness.

  • @jimbeamcantmeltsteelwool
    @jimbeamcantmeltsteelwool 2 роки тому +285

    I like that you've been using the first sins in these videos to basically deliver a review of the game before going ahead with the rigmarole; the format would get kinda stale without your actual perspectives accompanying it

    • @hellspawnedhero1123
      @hellspawnedhero1123 2 роки тому +16

      …well I came in to post about how I’m getting sick of him doing that, but the first comments informs me that I’m probably in the minority
      …god dammit….

    • @verymelonman12
      @verymelonman12 2 роки тому +9

      Agreed. It's a good have your cake and eat it too format that I grew to love.

  • @ANINIMOUSE.
    @ANINIMOUSE. 2 роки тому +124

    Jack better be in kh4. He can teach Sora a thing or 2, like "F*** you darkness"

    • @TheKpa11
      @TheKpa11 2 роки тому +12

      Yozora can just be the Jack really. Although it’s probably going to be used for self aware jokes where Yoroza says something logical, and Sora and co are like “Hey man lighten up have some fun” in many instances

    • @chrisdaughen5257
      @chrisdaughen5257 2 роки тому +8

      He can just be a random NPC in Quadratum and that would be enough for me.

    • @Ghostel3591
      @Ghostel3591 2 роки тому +10

      @@chrisdaughen5257 random NPC? Try Summon!

    • @TalesDelma
      @TalesDelma Рік тому +3

      I see him in KH3: "Xehanort: Explains plan" Jack: Bullsh** Xehanort: Explodes

    • @TalesDelma
      @TalesDelma Рік тому

      i agree. then we finally have a kinda good written character in that franchise *hides*

  • @DarkAttackYT
    @DarkAttackYT 2 роки тому +129

    Guys, call me crazy but I think the main goal of this game is to kill Chaos. Because Jack can't stop expressing himself with how much he wants to kill Chaos.

    • @zachw2538
      @zachw2538 2 роки тому +12

      Having played the game i can confirm, Jack changes his mind.

    • @IPLayedVR42Long
      @IPLayedVR42Long 2 роки тому +3

      *Limp Bizkit intensifies*

    • @TheGaleden
      @TheGaleden 2 роки тому +5

      He wants to kill Chaos so much, That he becomes chaos himself to make it happen.

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 2 роки тому +2

      @@zachw2538 Not really. Even once he becomes Chaos, it's specifically so someone can come and kill Chaos/him

  • @jakespacepiratee3740
    @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +71

    Jack wants to kill Chaos so bad you mine as well call him the God-Emperor of Mankind.

  • @shadowsabre118
    @shadowsabre118 2 роки тому +63

    I really wish this came with a bonus round adding a sin for the number of times the word Chaos is said in the game, but that feels like it would be longer than the video itself.

  • @smugbowkid9919
    @smugbowkid9919 2 роки тому +61

    I never thought I’d see the day Dartigan became a video game journalist with how much he had to compare this game to Dark Souls.

    • @snakeslife-uroborodjinn790
      @snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 2 роки тому +21

      If he also tells us how swinging off ropes makes you feel like spiderman, he'll get a job at IGN.

  • @bloodlightning
    @bloodlightning 2 роки тому +74

    The opening line, the one about Susie and her apples, that one, my man, was absolute genius and I laughed my whole ass off, lol

    • @russellvitranoiii3504
      @russellvitranoiii3504 2 роки тому +1

      For me, it was the line about how he grew accustomed to the plot being "none of his damn business." I crack up every time I hear that. Hell, I'm cracking up now as I type this comment!

    • @RenKium
      @RenKium 2 роки тому +3

      “Turned evil from the lack of vitamin C in his diet” is killing me XD.

  • @pokemaster2185
    @pokemaster2185 2 роки тому +51

    The reason Jack doesn’t remember his last name and Sarah does is because of the crystals. He gave her his in a previous loop, which contained his memories and gave her some protection from the world reset the next time Jack showed up in Cornelia.

    • @JABRIEL251
      @JABRIEL251 2 роки тому +3

      Sure, but that's a weirdly specific thing to forget and have her remember.

    • @dale7326
      @dale7326 2 роки тому +5

      Simply because of the Crystals. Did we ever see the origin Crystals from FF1?
      I don’t think we see that yet and this game is connected to Dissidia so there is that.

    • @Eskimo_iio
      @Eskimo_iio 2 роки тому

      Convoluted and stupid

  • @Kingdom850
    @Kingdom850 2 роки тому +65

    While providing basic concepts and character designs, Nomura actually didn't write the story in this one, nor was he director. Kazushige Nojima did, and he's also responsible for the changes in FFVII Remake.

    • @jbktpl1245
      @jbktpl1245 2 роки тому +4

      Really, interesting.

    • @Echo2602
      @Echo2602 2 роки тому +5

      Says it all

    • @Ghostel3591
      @Ghostel3591 2 роки тому +20

      People forget that Nomura first of all character designer and then he goes crazy with story in KH...
      And overall it is not that convoluted and more of it being very BIG and COMPLEX right now... But it only happened because if KH was an Anime it would be 10th season and Episode 400. This is a problem common among long running series - try to get a newcomer into One Piece - newcomer will have fun but generally will also end up confused if he starts from One Piece's equivavelent of where KH3 placed on a Timeline in its own series - Marinford ARC and Ace's execution.
      KH is a 20 years running "show" with ONE story - and state of its story simply shows the weight of going for so long.

    • @vincenthammons6705
      @vincenthammons6705 2 роки тому +2

      well the ff7 changes were awesome so don't see your point

    • @Kingdom850
      @Kingdom850 2 роки тому +6

      @@vincenthammons6705 Not everyone's exactly on board with the story changes in the remake. I just wanted to clarify that Nomura wasn't the one who made such changes. He actually wanted the game to be more faithful to the original, while Kitase and Nojima wanted to deviate even further from the original game.

  • @giguyjoe
    @giguyjoe 2 роки тому +53

    I think it's less Square being suicidal and more Square being really stubborn in insisting they can do no wrong. Just look at how they treated Eidos during the entirety of their ownership versus their own track record with releases like the original version of Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XV (which was originally slated to be Versus XIII), and all the FF XIII related titles.

    • @dale7326
      @dale7326 2 роки тому

      If they didn’t own Eidos, ppl probably not have a problem much with that though

    • @Eskimo_iio
      @Eskimo_iio 2 роки тому +4

      The problem is Square's fanbase.

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios Рік тому +2

      @@Eskimo_iio Exactly

    • @TheDapperDragon
      @TheDapperDragon Рік тому

      And XII.

  • @d3fyne
    @d3fyne 2 роки тому +31

    "Angry post-nut clarity" is a state of life I aspire to live in.

  • @themuffinprincesa21
    @themuffinprincesa21 2 роки тому +12

    1 sentence " angry man with alzhiemers suffers PTSD so strong it breaks continuity across multiple timeliness"

  • @stonepasta5296
    @stonepasta5296 2 роки тому +34

    Me playing game: "this is fun"
    Me after wathching this video: "I MISSED ALL THAT?!"

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave 2 роки тому +23

    15:15 To be fair, Final Fantasy 1 did have War Mech, the high level rare random encounter near the end of the game. This game looks to overdo it with the references to that one-off enemy type.

    • @TheCyclicGamer
      @TheCyclicGamer 2 роки тому +14

      In FF1 on the NES, flying fortress was an actual space station. In the remasters, they changed it to a medieval fortress in the sky.

    • @propheinx2250
      @propheinx2250 2 роки тому +2

      There's actually quite a few robots in FF1. There's a couple you just talk to, and the Sentry along with the pallette swap of the Sentry that are also robots.

    • @propheinx2250
      @propheinx2250 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheCyclicGamer that you can blame on the FF1 box art. If they didn't want it getting portrayed as a castle in the sky, they shouldn't have portrayed it as a castle in the sky themselves.

  • @rafapanzer3276
    @rafapanzer3276 2 роки тому +25

    "Chaos was the demifriends we made along OUR WAY" and this game is the phantom pain that explains ff1 powerpoint explain in the ending of timeloop that got garland rebooted and not angry and evil

  • @F0xdash
    @F0xdash 2 роки тому +11

    the face animations, expressions, and that drop in framerate... my god this is pure chaos!

  • @Kras015
    @Kras015 2 роки тому +27

    Im surprised there wasnt a bonus round: chaos counter. There would have been more sins on every time the word chaos was said than there was total in all the sins on this game.

  • @shadowindexumbra6630
    @shadowindexumbra6630 2 роки тому +25

    This is not FF Origins this how the darkness from Kingdom Hearts was born and this is a prelude before KH4.

  • @claudiocozzi4425
    @claudiocozzi4425 2 роки тому +21

    To be honest the stupidity of the plot and Jack's character makes it endearing, like an high budget b movie

  • @killerninjakitty815
    @killerninjakitty815 2 роки тому +7

    In 9:55 when the king started the line about chosen heros it started to sound like the script for a new super sentai got mixed in there.

  • @AkagiRedSun
    @AkagiRedSun 2 роки тому +11

    The way Jack dismiss everyone who are about to talk is the embodiment of players mashing skip button to get to the action.

  • @ShadowWarriorLuke
    @ShadowWarriorLuke 2 роки тому +20

    I know chocobos aren't in Final Fantasy 1, but I sort of wish there was a nu-metal chocobo theme to go with 13-2's death metal one.

    • @Justforvisit
      @Justforvisit Рік тому +1

      Thanks for reminding me of that banger, haven't heard it for way too long! :D

  • @jameswest6232
    @jameswest6232 2 роки тому +64

    It's so weird seeing a game as phoned in as this one while Triangle Strategy was also released by SE and is a solid game.

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 2 роки тому +24

      Oh Triangle Strategy is a great game and it’s really the only new release that hasn’t been crushed by Elden Ring, mainly because it’s in a niche genre and it plays to it’s audience, it’s sold over 1 million copies so far. But even though it’s sold fairly well Square Enix will probably consider it a financial disappointment. Hell, Shadow of the Tomb Raider sold 10 million copies and they consider it a financial disappointment, they only made the game’s budget back 2.5 times

    • @switchplayer1016
      @switchplayer1016 2 роки тому +10

      @@thedeepfriar745 of course they considere it a failure. There's no NFTs in it.

    • @thedeepfriar745
      @thedeepfriar745 2 роки тому +1

      It gets even more crazy when you realize that the Tomb Raider franchise is valued at $2.3 Billion and Square Enix sold it for $300 Million. I’m beginning to think that the company is actually run by mentally retarded hamsters.

    • @artaizen1613
      @artaizen1613 2 роки тому

      @@thedeepfriar745 square enix now is like most government, they need to squeeze the most amount of money with irrational number in their head and everything else outside their fancy garden of astronomical number is just a disappointment

  • @thedeepfriar745
    @thedeepfriar745 2 роки тому +12

    Sophia speaks and I’m confused because Thunder Catherine from Fire Emblem: Three Houses is speaking to me, seriously Laura Post is in everything. Also is Astos wearing the Black Panther neclace? Secret Wakandan confirmed.

  • @TheGmc1992
    @TheGmc1992 2 роки тому +11

    nomura just did the character design, the plot was done by the advent children team, good stuff tho

  • @childOFtengu
    @childOFtengu 2 роки тому +12

    This has already been said enough, but main writter was definitely not Nomura for this one (though he is listed as producer). If you wanna dwelve into crazy plot territory, then you're looking at no other than Kazushige Nojima, who was also infamous for writting the FF X-2.5 ~Eien no Daishō. AKA: Titus dies
    from a Blitzball looking Bomb, get's a "Golden Experience" revive, and Yuna in a crisis whether this Titus is her Titus (hence the whole vague "boyfriend" stuff that was in the extended scenario game for X-2 in the HD release).
    Point being...Nojima has a knack for making convoluted shit in half the stories he's helped written & made scripts for lately (VII Remake being a notorious example ala Fate Ghosts), so this is just another example. Not to mention, awhile back, Nojima got harassed by fans for how he handled VII Remake's story, so let that sink in.
    Nevertheless fun as hell video as always

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios Рік тому

      I’m pretty much the only guy who knows that Nojima wrote the Kingdom Hearts series and not Nomura, but I’m not gonna complain to you and tell you that it’s Nojima’s fault Kingdom Hearts 3 was a failure… *ahem* moving on.
      Even though I do think you’re right on this one, a part of me feels like something’s off. Like I don’t know, Nojima’s writing were convoluted than this game’s cringy writing.

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 2 роки тому +19

    Numetal Trivia: in your subtitles, you spelled Linkin Park as 'Lincoln Park'. That was the name the band originally wanted but couldn't use because of copyright.

    • @jbktpl1245
      @jbktpl1245 2 роки тому +4

      Heh, neat little fun fact

    • @propheinx2250
      @propheinx2250 2 роки тому +2

      Lincoln Park is a swimming hole in Michigan. It was a quarry back in the day that got flooded, leaving the quarry as a very deep, somewhat secluded swimming area with some old school and dilapidated brick structures around the surrounding woods.

  • @e3.14c4
    @e3.14c4 2 роки тому +13

    I am only half convinced the creation of this game is a byproduct of an HR therapy experiment, and I refuse to contemplate what the other half being not convinced is possibly aware of.

  • @girlyknight8817
    @girlyknight8817 2 роки тому +11

    Actually the song that princess Shara was hearing on jack I-Pod is most likely the FF1 tune

    • @bobkys7916
      @bobkys7916 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, you hear jack humming the theme and jed asks Jack when he taught the princess that song. He then says it's a classic and everyone knows it lol. One of my favorite scenes

  • @chrisdaughen5257
    @chrisdaughen5257 2 роки тому +7

    I feel there’s gonna be story DLC (like Nioh ) or a sequel to explain the more vague elements. The Lufenians keep talking about a collaborator in their reports, but who this is never revealed, even though they were the one who convinced them to flood Cornelia with darkness once the crystals were restored. I'd like to think Square will show what Jack wanted the warriors of light to do against the Lufenians too and give us a view of their society and overarching plan.
    It's really hard imagining Lufenian society when the Strangers look and act so different compared to the people giving them orders. You don't hide that from players unless you're planning a follow up.

  • @XenithflareGaming
    @XenithflareGaming 2 роки тому +11

    The plot is basically "Nobody watched The Eternals, right?"

  • @chickenheelnakano
    @chickenheelnakano 2 роки тому +12

    You keep blaming Tetsuya Nomura for all the writing, but this game was actually written by Kazushige Nojima - writer of FF7 Remake - and Tomoco Kanemaki, who as far as I can tell has only written novels and manga for the Kingdom Hearts series. Nomura is credited as an Artist and Producer, but not a writier.

    • @TheCyclicGamer
      @TheCyclicGamer 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly, if anyone's a hack writer, it's Nojima. 7Remake was trash in terms of story.

    • @sdbzfan1
      @sdbzfan1 2 роки тому +1

      People gonna blame Nomura for everything, no wonder the dudes so shy in interviews the dude never wanted to be in the spot light

  • @Joeyfield0
    @Joeyfield0 2 роки тому +4

    You cannot say "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO YOU ARE" when you literally ask everything that breathes if they are chaos. That should be a sin

  • @Thetrue777luck777
    @Thetrue777luck777 2 роки тому +2

    2:55 those black things in their hands looks like the suppository Anti-Pressure Pills created by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth from Futurama season 2 episode 12 XD

  • @mattappl3119
    @mattappl3119 2 роки тому +11

    One sentence plot summary: The most JRPG story in any non Kingdom hearts game, EVER. Also I vote for guardians of the galaxy.

  • @pokemaster2185
    @pokemaster2185 Рік тому +2

    26:06 I’m going to have to call you out on this one, as well as the very next sin. The song she’s listening to isn’t the nuMetal Linkin Park clone, and it’s certainly not what she plays on her lute. You missed out on a lot of context clues there, because note what she’s playing on her lute when Jack and the others see her at the beginning. It’s the FF1 theme song, and you apparently memory-holed a scene where Jack is humming that song with Jed asking when Jack taught her the song. He can’t answer since he obviously doesn’t remember teaching her, so just dodges the question by just “It’s a classic. Everyone knows it.”
    As hilarious as it might be that Sarah would attempt to play nuMetal on her lute, that’s not at all what’s happening in that flashback. In other words this is just a long-winded way of saying you were being deliberately obtuse and purposely inflating your sin count.

  • @zeableunam
    @zeableunam 2 роки тому +2

    0:46 yep perfect description I didn't know this game exist, & have my mind only on Elden Ring lately.

  • @yomama4240
    @yomama4240 2 роки тому +9

    Damn, 2 and a half minutes on the first sin. Might this be the longest one we've had so far?

  • @bladestormX
    @bladestormX 2 роки тому +10

    Jack would get along real well with Chris Redfield from RE5 and 6

  • @noblesseoblige319
    @noblesseoblige319 2 роки тому +3

    Summarize in one sentence? I can do both this game and the original:
    "the main villian in the first FF game became evil so he could be beaten and restore hope, not knowing that the way he did so made it so that the heroes that beat him erase their own heroics from history"

  • @JakeTylenol
    @JakeTylenol 2 роки тому +18

    26:15 she can’t love a song like that? If anything that adds way more personality to her bland ass character. It’s funny, but it’s not impossible that she would have an interest in that genre of music.

    • @UnicornStorm
      @UnicornStorm 2 роки тому +5

      he had her listen to the Theme of Final Fantasy, though

    • @JakeTylenol
      @JakeTylenol 2 роки тому +4

      @@UnicornStorm so he took the scene out of context to make a joke is what I’m hearing.

  • @R.J.-4us
    @R.J.-4us Рік тому +3

    Even after all this time, are we REALLY still just going to ignore the fact that in the cutscene where Sophia is first introduced, the subtitles CLEARLY read "Mysterious *Girl*", when she's OBVIOUSLY a SENIOR CITIZEN?

  • @davidpumpkinsjr.5108
    @davidpumpkinsjr.5108 2 роки тому +12

    I'd love for Gamesins to tackle "American McGee's Alice" and Alice: Madness Returns". Those are interesting games, but I imagine it would be really funny to rake them over the coals.

    • @AZ-rl7pg
      @AZ-rl7pg 2 роки тому +1

      I really want a remake of those games with modern graphics, it just sucks that, from what I understand, EA has a strangle hold on the IP and has no interest in doing anything with it.

  • @PlatinumBishop72
    @PlatinumBishop72 2 роки тому +14

    Tbf, about SE's recent failures. Guardians of the Galaxy was really good

    • @ergheiz1245
      @ergheiz1245 2 роки тому +1

      Passable, yes. ''really good'', certainly not

    • @bobkys7916
      @bobkys7916 2 роки тому

      @@ergheiz1245 nah man, it was really good. Definitely underrated. And I hate using that word.

    • @Eskimo_iio
      @Eskimo_iio 2 роки тому

      SE fans don't know what's good.

  • @Deoxys_Used_Mimic
    @Deoxys_Used_Mimic 2 роки тому +11

    “We can’t let a woman decide her own fate, can we?”
    What’s with the sarcasm?
    You know *damn well* that video games and cinema these past 8 years have been chock-full of girlbosses and ‘strong-independent-women who-don’t-need no-man.’
    Do you have a problem with a Princess who was originally made to be a damsel-in-distress, suddenly getting winded in one punch by a big muscle man?
    Don’t tell me you live by a *double-standard,* now.

    • @UnicornStorm
      @UnicornStorm 2 роки тому

      he also has the powerstone or whatever that increases his strenght

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 2 роки тому

      Yes but when was the last time Final Fantasy had a decent female character let alone a lead. 13 maybe or 10-2 ?

    • @aredjayc2858
      @aredjayc2858 2 роки тому +1

      @@clothar23 I mean doesn't 14 let you play as either gender?

  • @charlesfowler6862
    @charlesfowler6862 2 роки тому +1

    I enjoyed not understanding what I tried to understand about this in my misunderstanding.
    Great job!

  • @Artemas_16
    @Artemas_16 2 роки тому +3

    Dunkey's reaction to the ending was priceless

  • @strangerakari2836
    @strangerakari2836 2 роки тому +11

    Why no "Kill Chaos" counter?

  • @MalevolentMinun
    @MalevolentMinun 2 роки тому +3

    The opening being a rant almost 3 minutes long and a jab at Nomura's needlessly convoluted storytelling process floored me.

    • @bobkys7916
      @bobkys7916 2 роки тому +3

      Not even written by Nomura. This dude didn't even do his research and rushed to make a video hating on Jack, embarrassing.

    • @TheDapperDragon
      @TheDapperDragon Рік тому +1

      @@bobkys7916 Especially since it makes Dart look like an absolute mouth breather, missing a very simple story because 'nomura bad'

  • @GoTankYourself
    @GoTankYourself 2 роки тому +1

    Pour up (chaos), head shot (chaos)
    Sit down (chaos), stand up (chaos)
    Pass out (chaos), wake up (chaos)
    Faded (chaos), faded (chaos)

  • @codywhite6337
    @codywhite6337 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent video! Your humor is what makes these videos so fun. My vote for next game to be sinned is House of Ashes!

  • @chrisdaughen5257
    @chrisdaughen5257 2 роки тому +2

    The sins around the King talking about Chaos is likely that he's referring to it as a force (emotion-infected darkness), not a monster. It's kind of the same problem with KH now that I think about it, especially since they've added a character that is literally called Darkness.

  • @katiehunter1214
    @katiehunter1214 2 роки тому +1

    "What kind of person wants to get their ass kicked instead of a conversation?"
    Video game NPCs. It happens all the time.

  • @hopeeverest
    @hopeeverest 2 роки тому +1

    "I dare you to summarize this in one sentence."
    Me: Can summarize this in one word: Chaos.

  • @Genethagenius
    @Genethagenius 2 роки тому +24

    Besides the graphics and price, (okay and a whole lot of jank!) I think “SOP” is a blast! Most fun I’ve had with one of Square Enix’s action-RPG/turn-based RPG hybrid combat systems! The story actually gets pretty good about halfway through and great by the end. Probably my favorite Souls-like title outside of the actual FromSoftware’s “Soul’s” series.

    • @maxsmith746
      @maxsmith746 2 роки тому +5

      Same. It takes a bit of work to piece together, but once you do, the plot actually comes together rather nicely towards the end.

    • @moneenerd
      @moneenerd Рік тому

      For those who got the ps4 version, make sure you restart your console before booting up the game and turning HDR off. If you don't, it'll be almost unplayable.

  • @Riku91
    @Riku91 2 роки тому +2

    LOL so like I thought from my first impressions, this really is a Nomura-like KH game X°°°D Awesome work as always Dart! :D

  • @yuranabdul7081
    @yuranabdul7081 2 роки тому +5

    Every sin for the word Chaos

  • @mikec1222
    @mikec1222 6 місяців тому

    "We must defeat Chaos!" "No Jack, you are Chaos." two sentences, I know.

  • @negentropyagent7337
    @negentropyagent7337 Рік тому

    I almost like died for real coughing with the Susie and John analogy. So freaking accurate!

  • @mr.wackyman1614
    @mr.wackyman1614 2 роки тому +3

    Please do Guardians of the Galaxy. I would like what types of sins you find in that game. Plus I feel that you will have a really good time playing. Love you Dartigan, keep up the good work man!

  • @cjv8522
    @cjv8522 2 роки тому +14

    Jack is so fucking based, I love him

  • @RemnantSoul
    @RemnantSoul 2 роки тому +1

    I was waiting for this Chaos of a video!

  • @BiggBossChanel
    @BiggBossChanel 2 роки тому +6

    It feels like SE wanted to take a shot at souls like game based on the job system so they got kei tecmo to do it, and then, completely unrelated to it, they also wanted to make an anniversary game about FF1 with a bunch of references to the main series, time loops and alternate dimensions, at some point both ideas were merged without the necessary budget to realize any one them and we got this game where none of the original concepts were realized to it's proper extent.
    I still had fun with it tho.

    • @dale7326
      @dale7326 2 роки тому

      It’s usually better to make something new rather than a remake or remaster of a game. Mostly ppl you already have a fanbase that you do anything to assure that they get the correct scenes that they want to see.

    • @chrisdaughen5257
      @chrisdaughen5257 2 роки тому

      @@dale7326 Honestly, this game's ending made me want a remake of FF1 with SoP being canon. Kind of like how FF7R legitimized all of its side content. It would be strange as it would be a remake/sequel to a game where the characters swear, but this game left so much up in the air (the Lufenians, the unnamed collaborator, and Jack's plan against them) I want to see what Square has planned.

  • @eaek6800
    @eaek6800 2 роки тому +2

    It could have been a good game if the protagonist added "cares" to his sentence at 16:27

  • @TalesDelma
    @TalesDelma Рік тому +2

    I'm not sure why you bring nomura up so many times, the story/scenario writer was Kazushige Nojima. Nomura was the artist and ONE of the producers. The reason there is so much light/darkness talk is... well that was the core idea of good vs evil in final fantasy. It seems people always think "nomura did everything" because he worked with others on a game.
    The game wants to explain why garland in FF1 was able to create a timeloop in the first place, since it was not explained there. And in general jack garland is a complete different character then the garland we know from more modern appearances like dissidia, that guy is just "evil"
    in general it goes well into the first game now, it explained why the time loop is there, jacks reason for the loop and well now he waits for the group of warriors that will defeat him so cornelia can be free of chaos. The question was always how did the loop start, and well the game explains that. If so i want a stranger of paradise remake for ff8 so we can get ultimecia out of the way aswell. But its easier to see SOP as a "what if" scenario since the DLC also plays a bit arround with the story.
    When Astos said "guess" it was not referring to his role or his being, he wanted to check one last time if jack remembers him as his friend and companion. For astos this was a form of betrayal since he rly believed jack would remember and took him on his word.
    13:29 why should the maps be connected? they are all seperate stages. Also when it comes to "nothing but a way to a previous save point" well.. sry but DS does that on mass too. If you go to DS levels you will probably notice: they are not as open as you might remember.
    The lufenians probably analyzed the data and found out about jacks plan. i guess for this reason astos enchanted them so they cant do anything about it, and jack forgot anyway. The bats/lunerians wanted astos dead/out of the way for a reason.
    Overall some sci fi mixed in a fantasy setting was always something final fantasy pulled of somehow. (not always i know) FF1 had hints of ancient tech, ff4 had the lunawhale and lunarians, ff5 ancient ruins and remains of civilization far more advanced, and with ff6 and upwards sci fi was more and more in fokus.
    And... maybe dont compare the gameplay and world 1 to 1 to darksouls ^^ Its a small fanletter since all the levels are references to other final fantasy games and didn't need to tell a story, its there for the "oh i know this" feeling. The world in FF1 itself is as bland as you can imagine, there is nothing to tell/explain or a need to provide complex world building. If something: it feels better to play then dark souls , and the developers actually told the story and didnt hide it in item descriptions ^^

    • @TheCyclicGamer
      @TheCyclicGamer 11 місяців тому +1

      It's mainly because Nomura is the scapegoat for everything wrong at Square Enix. Whenever people find something wrong with a game that he's remotely touched on, people blame him even if he had so little actual involvement like designing a character's shoelace for said game. For some reason Square Enix loves to plaster his name upfront on any product he's worked on, as if his name itself is a selling point. Some have even blamed Nomura for games he didn't even remotely touch, like FF13 (Yes, people have blamed problems with that game, on Nomura, who didn't even work on it at all).
      When it comes to Kingdom Hearts, I can understand blaming Nomura for problems with those games because he is the director of those games, he is the main boss behind the development of those games. Kingdom Hearts is HIS series. He does not have the same level of influence when it comes to Final Fantasy though, but he has done way more good than harm when it comes to Final Fantasy, especially since he was the one who prevented FF7 from having what would've been one of the worst gaming moments in history, compare to Sakaguchi, who wrote FF9's terrible story and dumb characters (Except for Vivi, he's literally the only good one), gave us the The Spirits Within not a year later after claiming FF9 was everything FF should be, and was also one of the people who wanted that terrible moment in FF7.
      The fact of the matter is that FF/Squeenix fans seem to have very little knowledge of their own history. You ask the average FF fan what they know about FF and rarely you'll get them talking about any of the games that came before FF6. Stranger of Paradise being criticized for "Nomura Kingdom Hearts Light vs Darkness storytelling" is practically the proof in the pudding, Final Fantasy 1 was a Light vs Darkness story with special guest time travel, and Kingdom Hearts got literally half of it's story elements and concepts from Final Fantasy, with FF1's story being written the way it was not by Nomura or even Nojima who is the actual crazy writer at Square Enix, but by Sakaguchi himself, the person FF fans LOVE to praise without any form of awareness as to the actual bad stuff he's done with FF which I already mentioned.

  • @SubduedRadical
    @SubduedRadical 2 роки тому +1

    You mention not many publishers making a good Dark Souls-esque game. Have you not heard of Gunfire and Remnant: From the Ashes? Also known as "Dark Souls with guns". It's honestly a pretty fun game if you have 1-2 friends to go through the campaign with, and a lot of people have noted it's difficult, but somewhat more fare than Dark Souls since you CAN conceivably figure out the bosses and beat them quickly if you're skilled and observant, whereas Dark Souls games tend to...require you to die a few times to figure out mechanics (though the endless minions in boss fights for "challenge" in multiplayer can be a smidge annoying...it also ensures you never run out of ammo, which is a plus)

  • @davednz1264
    @davednz1264 2 роки тому

    I was hoping for you making this video. I'll finish the game just to see it. Can't wait

  • @matthewwilliams5407
    @matthewwilliams5407 Рік тому +1

    I don’t understand why Square-Enzo likes making rude, uninteresting assholes as main protagonists. I don’t understand it.

  • @VirizionWireless
    @VirizionWireless Рік тому +1

    9:06 Why'd you remove a sin for that? That was the worst moment in the game.

  • @redbaron9420
    @redbaron9420 Рік тому +1

    The game's plot in one sentence: "And then Jack was Chaos"

  • @astromatrix1012
    @astromatrix1012 2 роки тому +2

    As usual, I am astounded by the sheer length of the first sin. I swear it gets longer every video.

  • @landismithCOJ
    @landismithCOJ 2 роки тому +5

    They should have just created a Chaos Legion remake. House of Ashes is my vote.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому +2

      It could even be Astral Chain 2!

  • @JJ-eb4tx
    @JJ-eb4tx 2 роки тому +2

    "Angry post nut clarity" is my new favourite thing

  • @SaveYourself666
    @SaveYourself666 2 роки тому

    Favorite time of the month. New Dart video

  • @Freelancer837
    @Freelancer837 2 роки тому +4

    This game is so amazing. Easily my game of the year for 2022, which isn't saying much considering it's been such a dull and dry year for gaming, but still a really good game

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 роки тому

    25:46 I laughed before you actually said that because yep that’s basically it lol

  • @markmorales7958
    @markmorales7958 2 роки тому +5

    Another video with the 1st Sin count that goes over 2 minutes, I wonder how long we can keep up this trend…?

    • @swapbriarASMR
      @swapbriarASMR 2 роки тому

      I use his video's first sin as a review

  • @TheAndrassa
    @TheAndrassa 2 роки тому +1

    How to describe the game in one sentence: Nomura style retcons.

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 2 роки тому

    26:43 you realize that’s how Princesses are in old stories

  • @emilyalucard
    @emilyalucard 2 роки тому +10

    I don't care what anyone says I genuinely loved so much of this game it might be my favorite title this year if not the last couple years

  • @andrewiniguez502
    @andrewiniguez502 2 роки тому +1

    1:54 Nomura only did the character design for this game, right?

    • @braidena1633
      @braidena1633 Рік тому

      tbh i find even that hard to believe. his schtick is characters in cool outfits with cool hair and this game has some of the gaudiest clothing and bland hair ive ever seen

  • @ManiacMonkboon
    @ManiacMonkboon 2 роки тому +8

    Yes, another Dartigan video. Life is good. Do Sleeping Dog's. ☺️

  • @grandruby5343
    @grandruby5343 2 роки тому +3

    In regards to the gear system, there is a fair bit of depth to it. The game will throw a lot of gear at you yes, but the affinity it has to jobs is why you hold on to it, as the higher affinity, the better bonuses that you’ll receive when playing said job. Bonuses like WHM having an auto raise for anyone 1 time, Cyclic Warriors added Chaosbringer buff, those come in handy for fights.
    And for the combat, there’s stuff there to be had, as there are quite a bit of inputs for abilities, and mid combat job switching can be beneficial in some situations. I don’t think you really have it enough credit, I wouldn’t call it a Nioh clone, rather something that strays from the traditional Darksouls formula, and actually works in some regard, as you can easily chain together casting say Diaja then quick switch to MNK and execute the Twin Dragon combo. Or stacking up on WHM buffs with Knights Blessing of Light buff and be an unkillable tank. There are a lot of different combos to experiment with in this game, and as stated previously, makes it far from a Nioh or Dark souls clone.

    • @UnicornStorm
      @UnicornStorm 2 роки тому +3

      "works in some regard" describes it pretty well

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 2 роки тому +1

      Yet none of the combat in the game requires that sort of min maxing. Like seriously you can sleep through most of the fights and still win.
      And is it just me or do the bosses go out of their way to die ? I had to put forth effort to die to them.

    • @grandruby5343
      @grandruby5343 2 роки тому

      @@clothar23 I mean on the the hardest difficulty, bosses can easily pose a challenge, and even some optional challenges, such as the tripe boss fight one( don’t remember the name, but it’s where you fought Astos at) can give you a run for your money

    • @Eskimo_iio
      @Eskimo_iio 2 роки тому

      It is DS clone. All of Squares recent failures was them trying to clone successful titles. This game, that Destiny clone and their Mario clone. Square only cares about profit and its fans can't see past the high quality graphics.

  • @beno1129
    @beno1129 2 роки тому +1

    One day soon, Dartigan's video will be made up of only one long first sin!

  • @JakeTylenol
    @JakeTylenol 2 роки тому +4

    19:01 not a sin, but a funny joke, I’ve been thinking about this for a while now but why not a joke counter? Since sins are meant to be for the title “Everything Wrong With *insert game*”
    Idk, you’re the content creator here, just an idea is all. Could be a way to pad out the video if you want it over 20 minutes anyway
    EDIT: so everyone will shut the hell up about this, I KNOW this channel is based off cinemasins, but Cinemasins model is heavily flawed anyway that’s not a point against this comment. If you bring up “this is based off cinemasins” again in my replies I’m not responding.

    • @BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian
      @BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian 2 роки тому

      This is the same thing that gets cinema sins a ton of shit
      these videos are meant for fun and light critique, they are almost never seriously trying to criticize a product.

    • @JakeTylenol
      @JakeTylenol 2 роки тому

      @@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian the problem with cinemasins is that he actually gives real criticisms to a product and masks it behind “oh it’s just jokes” when even if you look at the sins from the perspective of just being jokes they’re just bad because they have no basis in what’s actually happening on screen. So when he says “oh it’s just jokes” it rings hollow because the joke itself doesn’t make any sense since it’s ACTUALLY criticism of the film done poorly
      Hell they actively manipulate scenes just to make a “sin”, that’s not a joke that’s just blatant getting information wrong on purpose

    • @PseudonymX
      @PseudonymX 2 роки тому +1

      This Series is based on CinemaSins. I think that explains it

    • @BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian
      @BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian 2 роки тому

      @@JakeTylenol this is what I'm talking about though, it isn't genuine critism. It's nitpicks for the sake of entertainment. The jokes are almost always relevant (I won't lie and say they are all the time, but it's nowhere near as bad as you say). It's fine for you to not like his content, I myself don't really enjoy it. But it's important to recognize what his actual goals are.
      there have been times when he tried to give genuine critism but most of the time its just family guy reference humor "this shot is the worst thing I've seen since (blank)".

    • @JakeTylenol
      @JakeTylenol 2 роки тому +1

      @@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian I don’t really see it that way, he actively uses the sins to pick apart scenes, I know he nitpicks in his videos but there are a lot of times where he’s actually criticizing the movie after manipulating a scene in editing so that it doesn’t make sense to his audience. If you want an example of this, go watch The Birdman videos if you haven’t and you can see all the examples.
      But beyond that I can see this argument just going in circles if I haven’t broken through now, which is fine I don’t mean that with any disrespect,
      I just personally find Cinemasins very disingenuous

  • @nixuniverse5240
    @nixuniverse5240 2 роки тому +1

    The John & Susie joke was fucking hilarious

  • @KazeMemaryu
    @KazeMemaryu 2 роки тому +23

    Summarize this game in one sentence? Easy: "Either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." It's literally that dumbass concept, sprinkled with technobabble and meaningless twists that amount to nothing.

  • @nameiswind9524
    @nameiswind9524 2 роки тому +5

    I came to see if CHAOS exists in this video...
    Has anyone seen Chaos

  • @raximusrex3464
    @raximusrex3464 2 роки тому

    First video that I was at the stream for! So fun

  • @Chaotic_Jackal
    @Chaotic_Jackal 2 роки тому +39

    You know there’s something endearingly charming about how utterly nonsensical the plot of this game was.

    • @mariokarter13
      @mariokarter13 2 роки тому +21

      Most games nowadays try to be ironic or tongue in cheek, but this game is completely sincere and there's something admirable about that.

    • @JABRIEL251
      @JABRIEL251 2 роки тому +17

      It's like watching a puppy who can't get its head out of a cereal box.

    • @bobkys7916
      @bobkys7916 2 роки тому

      @@JABRIEL251and while you laugh at the puppy, he's plotting on how to rob you while you sleep.

  • @tanakasean262
    @tanakasean262 2 роки тому

    You on fire these days... fire releases, fire intros, fire sins 🔥🔥

  • @PedroRDC
    @PedroRDC 2 роки тому +1

    The plot in one sentence: "Jack wants to kill Chaos so bad he even becomes Chaos so other people can kill him instead"
    I might have missed all the aliens and darkness and Nomura parts, but who cares? IT'S ALL ABOUT CHAOS BABY! THE TRAILERS DIDN'T LIE!

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 2 роки тому

    So I knew there would be a timeloop because final fantasy 1 itself is a timeloop.
    But damn, they went through this same time loop dozens of times trying to make sure Garland becomes chaos because since he gave his crystal away he keeps forgetting his own plan

  • @CoralCopperHead
    @CoralCopperHead 2 роки тому

    Black Mage: "Astos? Mo' like *YO' ASS IS **_TOAST!!"_*
    Astos: "............"
    [ASTOS DROPS DEAD]
    Fighter: "That was easier than expected."