Fired San Diego Navy ship captain struck, bullied, screamed at crew, investigation finds
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- A recently obtained Navy investigation says a San Diego ship captain created a culture of fear by bullying and screaming at subordinates. KPBS military reporter Andrew Dyer has more.
But if an enlisted seaman did that to others, he would be dishonorably discharged
I think “gender” is a bigger factor here
A sea man understands those consequences and chooses not to earn them
It's called the "Golden Rule". Those who wear gold, make the rules.
True, too bad they have double standards. People like that never lead from the front.
@@alanaldpal950you clearly know nothing about the navy then. It’s a boys club that favors the elite (officers).
She’ll get retired and then go work at some Fed Gov agency and make that office toxic.
Yes, very likely.
How did you know? Yeah, that's exactly what happens.
@@mpa8336 I’ve seen it. Lived it and here to tell the tale.
Civilian contractor for twenty years. Seen them come and go. Still in that military mindset. Civilians don't have to take that abuse. Seen lot of them get their backs kicked.
@@tracycase4520 They still act like they’re on a battleship or command post and don’t react well when someone tells them “no” or “that’s not how it works here”. Usually results with them having an uncomfortable conversation with HR.
I read the entire investigation, and she was absolutely unhinged.
This situation should have been observed by her superiors….supervisory error….in my 25 years as a naval officer (aviator type) responsibility goes up and down chain of command 👨✈️
Link?
'It' not 'she' - its pronouns got a demotion too.
What caused her to become unhinged?
@@never2muchluther803 Power. Specifically, power over men. People like her don't come with the warning, "Do Not Over Inflate, 32 P.S.I Max." You find out when they explode.
She isn’t the only one, just the one who made the news
Ain’t that the truth
If a man treated woman like that he'd be in fort Leavenworth
It happens all the time, and they don't.
She's a protected species.
@@michaelhandy9758 True, but at least with a guy you can beat the crap out of him at the bar and say he threw the first punch (which he probably will).
I doubt it. In the military, men are dominant.
@@THE_CDNjust cover up your rank insignia for the fist flying
The people who promoted her over the years are the ones at fault and should be taken to task for their bad judgement.
Exactly! She exhibited this behavior earlier in her career, guaranteed! Clearly the Navy has gone full DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) in the case of this CO. Very disturbing.
You can't say that because people like her can be very manipulative and can do whatever they need to do to get where they want to be. It could be 100% likely that she showed no signs of problems until she got into that power position. This is coming from someone with a degree and work history in psychology. The truly horrible people are operating out of sight until they get what they want and go crazy with it
@@mf1936 - She was promoted up the chain because she was female and a lesbian. The Navy was just checking the DEI boxes. You can't hide your true personality 24/7/365. I'm sure she showed her true colors in other assignments as XO, Dept. Head and Div Off. It was just overlooked.
But she's a wamenstrongandindependentdon'tneednomanfishbicycle!
@documentarydetectiveiii5217 - She's LGBTQ+ not Kamala Harris.
She instilled fear instead of respect. That's not good leadership. It's counterproductive. She's a liability to the Navy.
Zero Leadership!
The officer (or any leader of people) who relies on fear to rule, instead of leadership and trust, is a classic example of someone promoted above their natural level of competence. Box ticking promotions do not usually work out in peacetime, but can be fatal in wartime, for all those being commanded by that person.
Commanding people is VERY different from leading people. This officer needs to be put in charge of dustbin collections, or just thrown out of the navy pronto.
Most female officers are like this. They're learning this crap somewhere and it's absolutely killing the service.
She is a liability to the country.
I'm retired Army and the leadership means to inspire others to follow you and learn. Not this garbage.
Nickname is Captain Karen!
Captain Karen: "Get me Admiral Manager on the horn! Double time sailor!"
So. Not Captain Blightch?
@@hlcepeda Capt PMS.
@@CharitoBaker Men can't have PMS. Maybe constipation that feels like it or something but that person never has and never will have PMS.
@@hlcepeda I see what you did there. Not many will, but I do, and it's amazing.
Back in the day she would have mysteriously fallen overboard in the middle of the night and no one would have seen the thing .
when did you serve in the fleet?
@@billmoyer3254 Early 80's
Naval Fratricide.
NO, BIOTCHES WOULD NOT EVEN BE ON BOARD!! NAVY IS FOR POPEYES NOT OLIVE OYLS
I’ve heard of at least one story like that
What happens when you use check boxes for promotion and hiring.
its not like she is the first tyrannical captain
Men in my family have served in the armed forces since WWI this... kind of behavior long predates affirmative action...
Its not just that. Narcism is rampant in management, because that is taught now as leadership and good management. Civilian or military, the wrong people are constantly getting promoted as narcissistic leaders, look for compliant, compromised individuals to take up other management roles under them, who they don't consider a threat to them. In other words they assign and promote people similar to themselves. If you are intelligent, ethical, respected and competent, you are never going to make senior management in most places these days. You are the biggest threat to them and they will proactively work to tear you down.
I would imagine the price of check boxes would go up on account of them suddenly being privy to a government contract.
Typical Navy
Ruling by fear breeds poor leadership. A bully will never find out what's going on in their area because people are too frightened to talk to them.
They don't want to know and shouldn't be in command. In my time in the Army, there were 2 officers who were good and they were both second lieutenants and not looking forward to the time when they'd be generals.
vladimir Putin disagrees....
Good point. And when things inevitably blow up due to their poor leadership, they never see it coming.
Fear isn’t leadership.
Leadership is making people want to do things your way, not telling them what to do and threatening them if they fail to obey.
@@JustanotherconsumerI’ll post this one on my wall
This is today's military, promoted based on what boxes you check, not based on competence.
100% most dead on comment in this entire thread!
@@T0mmyTune Dmit you beat me to it.
No wonder the military is having a hard time recruiting people or retaining
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 agreed. And it certainly doesn't help when the civilian leadership is willing to throw away American lives in pointless conflicts around the globe. It's going to take forever to get back on track with our national defense and undo decades of stupidity in the leadership.
I don't understand something. Cause I'm pretty sure to be a captain they gotta go through a long process of internship type thing plus a mondo amount of schooling. Which includes leadership courses. Or does the navy not do that. At least in the Marines. You go off to leadership courses and then gotta go in front of a board before they promote you to sergeant.
The navy still can't fathom while no one has enlisted for the last 3 years.
Wait...I thought it was because "wokeness"???
combination of multiple factors, wokeness, toxicity, government overreach for example at the time mandatory covid vaccines, also these days people can make money in their pajamas making tik tok shorts why join the navy for long hours and low pay and be a complete slave to the government and your superiors.
@@jimbrown5091 That too.
because their mommy wont let them
My husband had an XO like that. He was universally loathed and no one respected him in the slightest. He was responsible for many a great young officer getting out of the Navy rather than making a career of it. The military is well aware of who the toxic “leaders” are. Until they start holding them accountable, they will continue to put the whole service at risk and lose great people to the private sector.
I had a commander in the army that was the same way. What made it worse was his wife acted like she was in charge too, and he supported her. He once told us in a staff meeting "If she wants something it the same as if I'm ordering it.
It was a year of hell until enough people complained and an investigation was conducted. He was allowed to retire, all of us wanted him forced out without a pension for what he put us through.
She should be expelled from the service.
He
Everyone wants to be everything a man can be but without the honor or respect. Sad!
wait, she was not ?
@@jdgoesham5381no it was a female captain
AND COURT MARTIALED !!
How was she punished exactly? Reassignment without a reduction of rank or pay…isn’t punishment. Its enabling.
A “relief for cause” effectively ends her career. It will be noted in her fitness report, ending all chance for future promotion. Likewise, she may still be subject to the UCMJ (Mast / CM). If she’s lucky, they may allow her to retire in grade.
And her latest promotion may only be permanent based on time in rank at retirement.
Officers have to do a lot more than enlisted to get a reduction in rank and lose pay.
According to the UCMJ officers cannot be reduced in rank.@@djustinfowler
@@RJC96cj An act of Congress or especially if they were prior enlisted they can more easily be reduced back to their enlisted rank (has definitely happened). Officers cannot be reduced in rank at an NJP or Court Martial, but more than likely they just get retired or let go.
These toxic leaders need to actually be held accountable and not just pigeonholed in some billet until retirement. Court-martial, reduced in rank, and forfeiture of Retirement pay!!
Indeed they do, but it will never happen. There's just no incentive for the powers that be who have the ability to fix that to actually do so.
2 TIER system of justice. If a male Capt did that... they'd be under the jail. (politics)
He sounds like one of those things in Holland that keeps the water under control.
Other than striking the subordinate, nothing in the video describes any crime for which she could be court-martialed. Some people just can't lead. They need to be removed, but poor leadership alone is not grounds for a court-martial. Removal from command kills her career as effectively as a court-martial for a relatively minor charge.
No! You can't do that to the elites. That only applies to the peasants!
I was a manager for twenty years, and even I knew to never berate a employee in front of other employees because they will never forget or forgive! If I was going to discipline an employee it was always behind closed doors and I would never raise my voice.
That is rule one of leadership.
What would Picard do?
Once upon a decade past had a manager who did such berations and more. Those of us who stuck it out got to see the regional manager enter with a stranger and personally introduce our existing manager to the new manager. Even our customers were quite pleased.
@@larrypowers2515 There is an episode of STNG where Data is acting Captain. Worf is being an asshole about it, so Data takes him aside and explains to him the basics of leadership and delegation of command. Not in front of the crew.
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU PROMOTE FOR WHATS BETWEEN HER LEGS AND NOT HER CHARACTER!
Yep and the bad part is that another hardworking deserving female will get judged as no good because of people like her.
Herring? The stench of rotten herring?
By 'Fired' you do not mean 'reduced to the ranks and dismissed in disgrace' but 'given alternative duties'.
Removed from command, put into a desk job, not considered for additional advancement, and given that she has 30 years of service, will probably be allowed to retire with full pension and benefits.
As opposed to Court Marshalled for conduct unbecoming an officer, assault, and any other violations of the UCMJ an enlisted person would be charged with, and a dishonorable or other than honorable discharge.
@luckystrike8733yup. No fourth stripe for her ! Maybe she can become a usmc drill instructor
@luckystrike8733under administrations like we have now, she will definitely advance
@@arthurbrumagem3844She has 30 years time in service, you can’t really blame that on the current administration when she’s been serving under 4 different administrations.
@@2centsam927 She is a Captain. She already has her fourth stripe. What you mean is she won't wear the Rear Admiral Lower Half bar and stripe.
And the Admirals are currently trying to figure out why recruiting numbers suck!
They know why but they know going public would mean the end of their careers
Not just recruiting but retention numbers also.
You're kidding right? Once you set aside nebulous concepts like honor, pride, and patriotism (none of which will feed your family) the actual risk vs reward calculations don't fare very well.
@@jimbrown5091😂😂You’re clueless.
Both my wife and daughter say female supervisors are usually horrible to work for.
I've had one. She was an exceptional CO. While the XO ran the operation, she spent her time looking out for and working with the enlisted and their families, aside from her command duties.
Yep!
My sister is a feminist and yet prefers male bosses.
Especially short ones.
@@richardkalmwater5996 gotta say, that does surprise me
@@michaelmappin4425😂😂😂
I must have been one of the luckiest sailors alive. Over 20 years in the Navy and I've never encountered someone like this in a leadership position. I've worked for Officers I've disliked but respected, worked for Senior Enlisted and Officers I would have gone through hell for.
She was not fired. She was reassigned and transferred to shore duty. Mostly likely, she is still conducting herself in an unprofessional manner and unworthy to wear the uniform of a military officer.
I was active duty air force for seven years. Female leaders were much more likely to be overly defensive and unnecessarily aggressive and critical. I did see a few good female leaders, but most of them created a negative climate and low morale in their units.
That is true everywhere, not just the military.
Yes, leadership is a quality more often found in men. As you say, there are a few women who are good at leading. But when they're inept it does something to the entire crew, or squad. Also, if a person, man or woman, doesn't take instruction or orders well, they're not good at giving them. We've seen this. I've seen people, so arrogant, that they couldn't follow instruction, thinking that they know better. Those are people that others don't want to work with. Nope
They forget that authority and leadership is about service to those below them.
Its the fault of their turd leadership who want to show "diversity" by ignoring and failing to do their jobs despite being fully aware .
I dunno, my female snowboarding instructor was a LOT better than the dude the day before@@Talon6551 . Granted that's a somewhat limited exception 8) Also it was in like 1997.
@@Talon6551 True. Too often when females are given authority/power they get a chip on their shoulder.
The Navy needs to do a deep dive investigation on how and why she kept getting promoted. Then who.
It's obvious that she was promoted because of her gender, and not her skills. Typical governmental biased mandate ideology.
Because she looked good on paper, and in front of who she needed to. They work the system and trash leaders get promoted all of the time. They play the game and level up.
It's incredibly common in the military. Narcissistic leaders that create toxic environments internally but, like a sociopath, act professional in front of superiors. Military leaders have a TON of power over people under them and are given a LOT of leeway so people under them are scared to speak up, especially if they are alone at sea, on a deployment, or other situations where they are essentially trapped.
No investigation is required. We all know why she got promoted.
One look at her tells you EXACTLY why that raging dumpster fire was allowed to get that far for that long in our now woke and insane Department of Defense.
Obviously she was promoted to her level of incompetence !
"Peter Principle"
Probably blew right past that level aways back.
That's the way bureaucracies work.
"Peter Principle" NOT written about bureaucracies Read the book
There are generally reasons why incompetent & untalented people get ahead. A lot of times, it has to do with politics or gender. Harvard is just one example of that.
As a 7 year surface warfare veteran I can only say the damage done by a toxic CO cannot be measured in any metric the Navy has. It is a plague and all are affected no matter the rank or 'job'. Absolutely affects ship performance and readiness. Unfortunate as 'Mutiny on the Bounty' explored the topic for all it is worth. being a 'hard a$$' is the lowest and poorest form of command in any military unit.
Thank you for your service- question for me to honestly learn. Grabbing by the collar is clearly unacceptable, but could the yelling be permissible if it wasn't so brutally pervasive? I ask because 1 channel over I see Drill Sergeants praised for yelling 12 hours a day at sailors- so is there any room here for tough skin? Or is it truly an officer likely acting in a completely unacceptable way in a completely unacceptable environment?
Things must have changed since I was a SWO. I dont think I ever heard my XO say anything in a normal tone of voice. Our CO was pretty good natured but he was a pilot getting his deep draft. I think of the first five words I heard our CMC say, three were expletives and the other two were unintelligible.
One of the reasons I left the Army the first time.
At least Bligh was one heck of a sailor and navigator. Read up how he got his crew from the Bounty mutiny across the Pacific to Indonesia in a long boat.
@@chrish0001Basic Training is a completely different environment than serving on a Warship, or any other duty situation.
It is a form of Conditioning, and transitioning from civilian life to military or naval services.
Dishonorable discharge at the very least. Would enlisted personnel get this kid glove treatment? This is a disgrace.
She is suffering something worse than that. Removed from her command, given a horrible desk job. She will never promote or supervise. She is receiving a punishment that is worse than you can imagine.
She's being protected by higher-ups. Probably because she knows how to go down with the ship if you know what I mean.
Dishonorable discharge is only given by court marshal and for very severe charges like murder and desertion
@@benjamingoldstein14 okay, so you have to commit a felony (not necessarily murder) or go AWOL, and officers are “dismissed”. Did her beatings rise to level of felony? Probably not. Still, she deserves something “less than honorable” and sent packing.
It’s misleading to say she was “fired”. She was relocated. Same game played with the clergy and teachers. She’s still in the U.S. Navy.
Sounds like she wasn't up to the job. Too emotional and could not handle the stresses of leadership. Captian of guided missile cruiser? Get her out of the Navy now!
Considering how our Naval forces are deployed around the world and the possibility of engagement is very high, this story troubles me.
All of the military is deployed worldwide.
You betcha!
They want Guard retiree's to recruit & postpone retirement pay to come back in uniform. Are we doomed?
Did she pull ball bearings out of her pocket and play with them when she got nervous?
Looks like she pulled them out & threw them...
She probably threw some yellow dye marker overboard & steamed away.
She would berate and question if they didn’t want to go around the horn too
The Caine Mutiny is a great movie.
Strawberries....
Sounds like she was overcompensating.
...and the men that promoted her? What were they overcompensating for? It had nothing to do with 'checking boxes' as one commenter said. All military personnel have to pass many qualifications and annual reviews to get promoted.
@@sacrebleu1371yeah politics and agendas never happen in the military or government, it's all good
So, no women played a role in her promotion? Interesting that you know that, or do you? The box checking has indeed seeped into our military forces so the powers that be can show off examples of what they did for so and so groups. Also, on occasion problematic personnel have been kicked upstairs for various reasons. that is nothing new. @@sacrebleu1371
@@sacrebleu1371because the military has never done political campaigns. Just remember Uncle Sam “wants” you.
Exactly! That was the word I was looking for when I commented.
Why she wasn't promoted and given a bigger ship confuses me.
Did she have dirt on these people that promoted her?
They call that "failing up", and it's what usually happens.
My ex was a rapist and violent abuser....I turned him in and he retired as an 06! They protect their own
What is a woman doing ,commanding a warship?..unbelievable
Women have no business on combat ships!
@@Historyfreak-f7o Unless it's the Romulan commander from Star Trek. The one where Spock pretends to be a traitor and they steal the cloaking device. She was cool.
Another female CO fired for being severly toxic
After I got out of the Navy I joined the CalARNG. The company commander and I got into it over procedures and regulations.
Then I said that is enough and went to the SGT Major and told time him for transfer to IRR.
The Next day the brigade Commander relieved her of command and asked her for the letter.. I did not have to explain anything.
My specialty was reviewing irregularities and regulation infractions.
Just following a traditional leadership path, that of being a martinet. A leadership style as old as seafaring itself. So gender really doesn't factor in.
Sadly, this is how most females in positions of power react to the stresses associated with those positions. Being brutally honest, females are governed more by emotional thinking than rational thinking and are more subject to acting out of their emotions.
For those of you who vehemently disagree, please comment with all your hate below...
Never fire a male CO.
@@TruthSayer_3.16Right below this thread is a testimony of a male CO trying to strangle his helmsman, but yeah sure, must be a women-only thing.
Holy crap! The old man, at least back when it was usually was a man, never got angry where the crew could see it. The captain was cool, calm, perfect and above mere mortals. The XO struck fear into the core of your existence and the chief of the boat could terrify Cthulhu back into the deep, but the captain delegated that sort of thing.
Good line about Cthulhu. I might have to steal it.
Nice comment. Management 101 in a nutshell.
Harvard has an opening for a leader like this.
That’d go for ANY of the Ivy League schools as far as I’m concerned.
@XvonPocalypse Hmmmmm!!!
No, they don't. Your comment is ignorant.
STOP WHINING!!!!
@@robertdriscoll711 You spelled "WINNING" wrong.
She was a tyrant, seen plenty of those types in the Military. Glad they took action, she has no place being in command of others.
No surprise here! Sounds like she was incompetent and anxious and taking it out on her officers.
She should be in jail. Anytime an officer strikes another service member all respect is gone. Ive seen male CO's perform poorly but nevet to the point of battery. Too me this is an insecurity complex where someone knows they are internaly weak and has a wannabe a man complex. She needs to be out of the navy end of. Article 128 Ucmj battery.
There was a Roman Legionnairy Centurion who was nicknamed "Give-me-another"; the centurion carried a little stick (probably where the swagger stick orginated) which was also used to discipline a legionnairy with a few whacks for a minor infraction. This centurion used his little stick, these were made from a length of grapevine, vigorously and when it broke, he demanded his orderly "give me another" in order to finsh his task of disciplining the infraction committed by this legionnairy he was pounding on. Google it: roman centurion named give me another. I've seen a female officer nicknamed "The Bull" because of her deportment towards all troops and no one wanted to get caught by the horns of "The Bull"; some people are just plain 'mean' aren't they?
True. This is a problem with insecurity and we don't want insecure people in command in the military. There would have been performance evals that told the Navy she had a problem but they ignored them.
@@neilreynolds3858 yeah I know, what other people do t mention is when your on a cruiser at sea no one can jump the chain of command so the co has ultimate authority it's like being on a floating prison and if you say something when you get back it's your word against hers. Luckily she abused her power with so many people and if high ranking respected people, the navy finally agreed with the crew and realized they couldn't all be lying. I dealt with things like this for years in the Navy it's never about who's right or wrong it's about who articulates the best argument. Which is real sad for future recruitment.
Have times really changed that much? There was a Roman Legionnairy Centurion who was nicknamed "Give-me-another"; the centurions carried a little stick (probably where the swagger stick orginated), these were made from a length of grapevine, which was also used to discipline a legionnairy with a few whacks of corporal punishment for a minor infraction. This centurion used his little stick vigorously and when it broke, he demanded his orderly "give me another" in order to finsh his task of disciplining the infraction committed by this legionnairy he was pounding on. Google it: roman centurion named give me another.
Officers reduced to tears in front of the C.O. I know I got out of the Marines over 52 years ago but officers crying in front of the Skipper. Never thought I would see that in my life.
Most men would not stand for that. I know I wouldn’t.
Many men these days are just weak.
The officers crying were no doubt DEI promotions too.
Yeah, this CO is a problem, but officers crying in front of anyone while on duty is a problem of the culture. This DEI poster child acting as CO is part of that same issue. Not that women can't be competent, successful leaders/officers, but promoting them to these positions solely for DEI's sake is a disaster waiting to happen.
Right! Who the hell cries from being yelled at? Sounds to me like there are some emotionally unstable officers out there.
It's equivalent to having Napoleon complex where the man feels inadequate as a leader by being short. She feels inadequate as a leader by being female and wrongfully and horrendously took it out on her crew mates. Shame on her. I'm glad she was relieved as captain but she should be investigated further.
I sure hope the officers the guy speaks of in video as being "brought to tears" were women! Geez.
had an old SeniorChief tell me,
50 yrs ago,"no good ever comes from having an A-hole in charge, nobody happy, and good men
pay the price"
have not seen anything to prove
otherwise.
I can’t imagine serving in the military in this day and age….
Just my personal experience of what Ive seen growing up. When a man disrespects someone they eventually get checked by another man and get punched in the face but women go through life unchecked after disrespecting people and it leads them to believe behavior like this is okay.
You're exactly correct
Spot on
I had a relationship with someone like that when I worked at Stanford. She yelled at my coworkers, made them cry, threatened their employment, for no reason, and was in general, a bully. And she had to support of the management. Don’t be surprised,that isn’t at all unusual. It’s pretty much status quo.
Just like corporate America, the armed forces have their fair share of toxic leadership.
Getting yelled at? Getting grabbed by the collar? That was a typical day in the Marine Corps. All jokes aside, an officer has no business putting their hands on anyone under their command, and as for the screaming, that's why the Navy has Chiefs Petty Officers.
Or sergeants...
haha I was thinking the same thing!
Naw. In the fleet nobody yells at you. For the most part.
Getting yelled at? Getting grabbed by the collar? Sounded like playing for Coach Saban at Alabama or Coach Niumatalolo at Navy.
Being yelled at after bootcamp means you have Fd up pretty good and put the ship and lives at risk (saw it several times on my carrier, and all seemed justified but were not excessive), but not for late musters, or incorrect log notes, or whatever could have been the situation! The moment she went hands on means she totally overstepped her boundaries (and the subordinate had the right to call the master at arms as witness and diffuse the situation)and at that instant the XO had the duty to relieve her, ON THE SPOT, and remove her from her position of power until they reached port, then have her removed from the ship into the JAG fold and let them immediately take action. BS. Make her live out her days regretting the embarrassment she brought on the ship and to females in service.
Promoting people to positions beyond their competence puts them in a position where they resort to anger and bullying to cover their incompetence.
Clearly not every person should be in leadership positions. The real sad part is how many careers did she ruin directly or indirectly with her poor job skills. I can picture some bright 18 year old sailor living this nightmare and choosing to not re-up and leaving just as soon as humanly possible. If we cannot trust our military (or civil) leaders to make the correct decisions with the small stuff, we cannot trust them to make correct decisions with the big stuff.
Back in the days, behavior like this might lead to fragging.
Can you say Vietnam!?!
More like a lot of sailors getting lashes from the cat of none tails if you really want to go back in time. Martinets are a notorious type of commander throughout naval history
You've been watching too much television, Gomer.
@@maxsdad538Not really, I remember a few instances that came real close.
Evidently wrong criteria used to allow promotion at all levels.
I was in for 6 years had several captains. I liked all but 1. He wasn't like this he was just kinda weird. Usually bad captains were an exception in my experience.
This is what you get with " Equity" hiring.
The real question is how she advanced that far to begin with.
Damn. We loved our Captain. We were so proud when he got promoted to Admiral.
DEI again destroys everything go NAVY
I once worked for a guy who lost everything but his "ball bearings" in a divorce. One day, people came to me and asked if I could find out what was wrong with him. It seems his "EX" wanted half of his retirement since she lived in California. She emptied their savings, took the house and cars. Any woman that got into trouble was in the bulls eye. I had a hell of a time keeping him straight but he appreciated it. He was a good man and an outstanding officer but I could not blame him for being upset. One does not yell at senior Non-Coms. Very bad "Ju-Ju".
One good reason for MGTOW.
When she realized she did not join old navy, she went ballistic.
Would the old Navy have taken care of things?
I was a young airman on my first C-130 marshaling (parking) job back in 81. I stopped the aircraft 5 feet over the spot. A SSgt came out and grabbed me by the shirt collar and pulled me close yelling “ you just instigated a tow job” and then let go. I never screwed up marshaling again.
Sounds like a training issue? USAF 81-85
Perhaps the Navy should consider promoting people to command authority based on merit and demonstrated ability rather than their sex and sexual orientation - you know - like angry lesbians.
Bingo!
DEI HIRE
Wow, an abusive woman... Who would guest ?!
You got a problem with women, pumpkin? It's not them, it's you. You and only you are the source of your issues.
Guest? Who was the guest?
One CO screamed at me an hour a day whether I needed it or not. Luckily I never served under the "Borg Queen" who scolded me loudly in her office as an admiral. Some CO's are professional. Others are most highly defective.
The officers live like gods on the boat. I know I served 6 years.
WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE IN COMMAND. Affirmative Action hires and promotions should be illegal.
Regardless of your rank or position, nobody should be treated like that!! She should be reduced in rank and dismissed from the navy!!!😡
I guess I've been lucky. I had a lady boss who was very subtle. She was very reasonable, but if you weren't going with the flow you'd get duty you didn't like. If you pulled your weight you'd get duty your really liked. She knew each subordinate's likes and dislikes and could play the schedule like a violin. Even if you weren't her favorite though, she'd back you to the hilt if you were doing your job. Bosses like that are rare, male or female.
Not rare with men!
She is another grand example of 'Affirmative Action' gone awry.
Some people, particularly women and men of short height, often tries to compensate for their lack of respect from others by invoking fear and intimidation and sometimes even threats in order to be respected, or rather, be feared. You'll find them in all professions. Cops, teachers military, especially places of authority.
It's interesting how you've made comparisons to the angry short men, because I've always said that feminism is a type of napoleon complex that's focused on gender.
And the military is wondering why their having recruiting problems. People see and hear about stuff like this going on and ask the questions if they want to put up with stupid stuff like that
Her career is basically over and she will never skipper again. she will ride out her 20 on shore and then retire.
Nah - we aint seen nothing yet. They'll make her admiral now. Watch!
@@larrygoerke9081I hope you’re wrong but things have changed so drastically. I never thought anything like Afghanistan could happen.
I've been struck by a senior officer in the military. I stood at attention and took it like a man.
Never struck or seen leadership strike.Now between enlisted men both on & off duty. Not acceptable but sometimes that relief valve needs to be unseated.
@@ritchiesokol1061 When a superior officer strikes you, and it's rare, there will be no witnesses and no proof. Because I caught him committing adultery, he freaked out. He was unstable and undisciplined as can be seen by doing such things. We made a deal in private, and I came out on top with a choice assignment, an award and no bad paper. He ended up resigning couple of years later as his life fell apart. Alcoholism got him.
It was in my interest to cut him a deal In exchange for not having him sent to Leavenworth.
How are we supposed to believe these sailors who can't even defend themselves from getting bullied and battered by this woman, are supposed to be able to defend us fromoir enemies?
Kicking the problem down the road instead of manning up and Court Martialing such a commander not only to punish and likely discharge them, but as a message to ALL leaders that this kind of abuse will NOT be tolerated. They clearly choose NOT to send a message, other than you'll get away with it.
Her Navy career has reached its high point. She will probably be able to put in her 20 years and retire. She won’t command anything from this point forward.
She will boss her husband around and having him scub the kitchen floor.
Nah -they'll make her an admiral now. Watch!
This is what happens when you check every box but the one that says they're qualified. It does a huge disservice to those that actually are.
As a Retired Marine Officer I can’t imagine a CO putting their hands on someone aggressively without it being game on. That behavior and the tolerance of it has no place in the military. Bullies and cowards hide behind their rank.
Fired ? That’s not a thing in any part of the military .
That's what you do when you have no competence but have been promoted 5 levels beyond the Peter Principle.
Happy to see someone knows what the Peter principle is. When I use it I get stupid looks. That would be woke teaching now, teaching racism, instead of reading, mathematic, history, and how to think for your self
= critical thinking. And yes there is a God and Absolute Right and Wrong.
@@larryh657F your god
@@411bvRGiskard Stay triggered, Jamal
@@411bvRGiskardStay triggered, Ahmed
Incompetence seems to have been promoted. When leadership carries on like this Captain did I have found it is usually because they are stressed out of their depth and and try to hide it by attacking their subordinates. Anything that goes wrong is *never* their fault but they forget that *The buck stops here* at their desk.
same flipping everywhere.
We've been promoting on incompetence in the military for 60 years. Remember Westmoreland?
@@neilreynolds3858its all over the place go into corporate America its no different
This is FAR from unique! I experienced it myself. Training sadists is a big problem. I know a retired captain (female from all outward appearances) who did the same thing. Her family is completely dysfunctional. She should have been discharged YEARS ago but left quite a historical wake of destruction as a legacy. Good ridance.
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She will never advance beyond O-5 nor should she. If anything she is not fit to be in command of anything. Her commission should be terminated.
If a man did that they would have been kicked out.
I heard her ship was called the PMS Pinafore.
Not the sort of news you want to hear re: our naval officers at a time when they may have to demonstrate their leadership against a real threat.
A product of affirmative action and WOKENESS !
Except, no.
There are toxic officers who routinely engage in this behavior and are protected by the military. She will probably be promoted to O-6 when she should receive a courts martial and removal from the service.
Imagine her being in charge on-board ship if war broke out. What an absolute disaster!
This is OFTEN how women handle positions of power and authority, in my experience of years working aborad ships. It is hard to dodge accountability on board, and perhaps it's that pressure that makes them micromanage and depend on instilling fear in their subordinstes. It's the same thing you see with weak men in these positions.
A female ship Captain in the USN….😖 Thankfully, there were none when I was in during the 80s.
The Navy's evaluation process needs to be looked at very closely. Looks good for the Navy to have female commanders even if you have to hire Captain Ahab's sister.
I'm glad I'm not part of such a group. What a horrible way to live your life.
Leaders are never toxic. If your boss is toxic, they are not a leader
Any officer who does these things, was not up to the job to start with. Was it a question of box ticking at the time?
It's always about box ticking. The military is first a bureaucracy and second or third a fighting force. It used to be second but procurement seems to have taken that place.
The bullying and the bad leadership were the reasons I left the Navy. There are so many bad leaders in the Navy yet so many of these characters got promoted. There were some who only knew to scream and curse at their subordinates. This is noway to inspire confidence and to achieve retention
You don't recommend anybody joining the Navy?
Would you experience bullying on a daily basis?
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people under your command would be willing to follow you to the ends of the earth not because they fear you but because they view you as competent, professional, fair, and most of all a person who is loved and respected...
I was in naval aviation. We used to say of the surface warfare community that they "eat their young."
I lost count of how many times I was yelled at as a 2nd and 1st Lt in the USMC. FFS, grow a thicker skin. War is not a pleasant experience, people yell. Grow up and be an adult.
I could only imagine what the tension was like when she was on the bridge. Everyone, from the OOD to the petty officer on the helm, walking on eggshells . . .
Its great to take orders from someone who is a fair leader and shows respect for all.😅
Got to love diversity hires .