16 Reverse Reverbs & Delays (into a Death By Audio Fuzz War) in 6 minutes - High-Speed Shootout
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- 8 reverse reverb and 8 reverse delay pedals in front of a Death By Audio Fuzz War, in classic My Bloody Valentine style.
All 16 are directly compared with the same loop from the MBV song 'Soon', recorded from my Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster using an Ammoon Stereo Looper - my EHX 720 had developed a fault at the time so this cheap copy was standing in for it.
The Digitech Whammy Ricochet emulates Kevin Shields' and Bilinda Butcher's style of playing where they briefly push down on the Jazzmaster's tremolo bar while playing.
I'm not sure how useful this is, as this is a VERY SPECIFIC use case for a reverse reverb or delay, and the sound of each pedal can be hard to differentiate swamped in Death by Audio's excellent fuzz... but I liked doing it.
Pedal prices shown are correct for new (or used where discontinued) from Reverb.com as of February 2019.
Here are the pedals in order:
THE REVERSE REVERBS
0:40 Digitech Digiverb Digital Reverb
0:58 Hardwire RV-7 Stereo Reverb
01:22 Digitech Polara Reverberation
01:40 Keeley Electronics Loomer
01:58 Keeley Electronics Nocturner
02:22 Zoom MultiStomp MS-50G Multi-Effect (Reverse Reverb patch)
02:40 Walrus Audio Descent
02:59 Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail Max
THE REVERSE DELAYS
03:23 Earthquaker Devices Avalanche Run
03:41 TC Electronic Nova Repeater
04:00 Electro-Harmonix Canyon Delay & Looper
04:23 Joyo D-Seed Dual Channel Digital Delay
04:42 TC Electronic Alter Ego Vintage Echo v2
05:00 Rowin Pure Echo
05:24 Zoom MultiStomp MS-50G Multi-Effect (Reverse Delay patch)
05:42 Source Audio Nemesis Delay
BONUS LEVEL!
06:01 Keeley Electronics Loomer using its own Fuzz and envelope-controlled whammy bar effect
Fuzz War is so loud, it doesn't even need to be connected to your signal chain.
Ha! You just need it in the same room.
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@@juancitolimon8743 sapee
i love the use of the ricochet in this. definitely adds something different! & that fuzz 🖤
I would love a similar demo for clean sound!
Sadly I only own a couple of these pedals now - shot this video a while ago.
Yeah the fuzz kind of nullified any other effect. Not a bad tune to listen to while reading the written information though...
Wow I love the use of that Digitech Whammy, I love using tremolo swells but it jacks up my tuning so quick. Sick solution
Technically yes, but Fender has always called it a tremolo.
No one calls the arm attached to the bridge of a guitar a vibrato arm... and the original comment was about how using that arm ruins the tuning on his guitar, not about the pedal, so I think we can allow the use of ‘tremolo’ in that context. (TBH ‘swells’ normally refers to volume too, but there you go. 😉)
Your videos are pure joy
Love your work my friend. Valentine yeah.
absolutely adore soon by mbv thank you so much! love from dublin ireland
Love your work my friend!
Bless people like you.
From what i've heard, those sounded really good because of the definition through the fuzz effect:
1º RV-7 Hardwire
2º Holy Max
3º Grand Canyon
I cant even begin to say how much I like your approach to pedal demos. Genius!
Thanks! Really appreciated.
Thanks! Really appreciated.
I loved your muff shoot out but this video has such high quality I can’t not sub, love this content bro
This is the first of your videos that I've seen and there are only two things I can say, 1) Thank you and 2) +1 Subscriber
Kenny's Tone Factory That’s very kind of you :)
Dude this was EPIC !! Loved the Hardwire RV-7 and your use of the Ricochet
Honestly, you make the best reviews. Your playing and riffs sound and are amazing, the straight forward reviews and noticeable differences and then this. I've never seen how this sound was made, it blows my mind.
Love your video's man, best pedal demos out there on youtube bar none. To me, the winner for reverse reverb is the digitech digi-verb. Mostly because you can find them for around 50 bucks or cheaper on Reverb. It's a great budget friendly way to dip your toe into Shoegaze land and honestly for what you pay for it's kind of awesome.
That's very nice to hear, thank you.
You're right about the Digiverb - it's so good for so little money. I think I was put onto it by some 'how to do shoegaze' video and the guy wasn't wrong.
cool I'm trying to win one on ebay right now because the only one on reverb.com is not in good condition and the sellers price doesn't reflect that.
I need to get that whammy pedal, so cool. I have the Canyon and it's incredible. Tons of classic delay sounds in one pedal. I'm about to make my own Fuzz War clone. 😈 Nice MBV chords!
Killer stuff dude I love your content, especially all the pedal stacking absolutely lovely!
Thanks! This one was especially fun (and slightly pointless) but I've loved MBV since I was a student.
I love the reverse reverb on the Nocturner. I scored Keely's #1 from this pedal run and haven't looked back.
Mine was specially made for me by someone at Keeley (I can't remember who, annoyingly!) because I sent the one I had in for repair and it went missing.
(I sold it in the end, and kept the Loomer instead which has the same reverse reverb, because I have excellent Plate and Hall reverbs on my MXR R300.)
@@ThePedalBored so the nocturner is really the same Reverse Reverb as Loomer? Asking as on the website they say it is a dark sounding reverb and was unsure if that means that they changed the tone.
YES,just what i need it to see! best pedal channel
A little question out of the video... Why do you change between the EHX 720 and the Ammoon Stereo Looper in your videos? You notice much difference between them?
Amazing work with all your videos. By far the best comparisons in all the internet.
Even though it’s at the higher price point the Loomer covers all bases really well. Keeley does it again!
Lovin’ your work btw
Thanks! I'm a big fan of Keeley and all they do.
I had both the keely loomer and the realizer . I found that i liked the loomer better eaven though i never used the fuzz on it . The realizer seem like it didnt have the full 100% wet function as the loomer . There is a switch in the back for full wet to dry . I mess with it and could not get it to sound like the loomer did.
I remember everyone and ther dog shitting on those digitech pedals [the digi-verb, the delay...].... now everyone wants them.
Oh, and DOD pedals.Those were hated beyond reason because they weren't Boss.
Right?! The old ones are the best. Have you tried that DOD Rubberneck? Big fan. And I'm personally coming back round to Boss again too.
@@ThePedalBored oh yes, the rubberneck is a great delay. I have a couple of the old DOD pedals and some Digitech ones (the digi delay being one of them). My favorite Boss is the RE20.
and this is the last time i saw that ammoon looper, how does it performs againts the EHX?
dang thats good.
Most kind.
Sweet!
DOPE!
Do you know anything about the reverse reverb on the Oceans 11? Wet/Dry would it work for the MBV sound? Awesome video!
Jason Smith it works very well for the mbv style that’s what I currently use
Great video! You should try Red Panda Particle, there is great reverse delay (imo best)
I added that one to my arsenal right now.
I have one it's great for glitches and ambience, but i didn't manage to make it sound good for shoegaze sounds.
What's the explaination for the weird horn-honking artifacts some of the pedals generated?
Great video! To my ears the electro-harmonix pedals sounded great! And obviously the value on the EH stuff can't be matched.
They're so cheap and yet great quality!
How do you have your riccochet set up?
Awesome video!
I've not owned or played any of the Keeley pedals but I think the Realizer is the reverbs from the Loomer and not the Nocturne. I run a digiverb into my fuzz and distortions and then have an alterego into another reverb after:)
The first Keeley reverse reverb was in a pedal called the Sojourner - shoegaze-in-a-box that combined four reverbs and a Psi fuzz (Keeley's Big Muff).
That pedal was discontinued, but the reverb half of it ended up in the Nocturner.
The Nocturner was discontinued, but when Keeley developed the Loomer (three reverbs and a Psi Fuzz) they took the reverse reverb algorithm from the Nocturner and used it.
Finally, they decided to release just the reverb half of the Loomer as the Realizer.
So they all kind of had the same reverse reverb in, based on those '90s Yamaha and Alesis rack reverbs so popular with MBV.
Ah so the Nocturner predates the Loomer, interesting
Great video. Thanks. My RV-7 kills the dry in reverse mode like the Polara. Is yours different or is there a way to bring back the dry signal?
Ah. This may be my mistake. I annoyingly don't have the pedal anymore - sold it - so when I was editing I had to go from memory, but I think you're right. Yet somehow it still manages to sound better than the Polara...
The Rv-7 has a trails switch under the battery compartment. It activates a buffer, which is required for trails.
Never heard of the Nocturner. Keeley is really kind of milking that reverse algorithm, they put it in 4 different pedals
How that looper compare to the 720 please ?
When it goes deeper and grittier for a second, is that the whammy ricochet doing it or something they're playing?
This is awesome, would love to see a video on treble booster pedals. Any internet searches just yield bad reviews of bad copies
From my limited knowledge, I think treble boosters really need to run into a tube amp that's got plenty of volume. I'm not sure my home-volume Boss Katana would do them justice unfortunately
The Pedal Bored that’s still very helpful as I don’t use tube either haha
Great comparison, do you think that the canyon reverse delay setting can stand against one of the reverse reverb of this video for a shoegaze setting ?
Roy Tele Reverse reverb is always going to sound different to reverse delay. It's a matter of taste really - specifically: yours!
@@ThePedalBored thanks for the reply, I was looking for a reverse reverb, but then I discovered that video, and the sound of canyon was very close to MBV kind of sounds;I wonder if it can be achieved with the multi-tap setting like on the memory man hazarai
Roy Tele not tried that pedal so I can't advise, but I think actual '90s reverse reverb units used an element of reverse delay to create the sound anyway.
Id love to hear you do an overdrive version of this
Sadly I don't own most of these pedals anymore. Had to sell them TO BUY MORE!
Bummer! It’s a great demo!
Thanks!
Dude I run my loomer with the fuzz off almost always into the keeley phat mod od and it sounds the best to me. Though the loomer alone sounds pretty much dead on for loveless. For older style mbv just the reverb side does a Ride, MBV, Slowdive switch in terms of reverb clean styles. For never really clipped stuff on MBV album I run the loomer reverse verb on only into the Fuzz Factory or any compressed/bias optioned fuzz would work.
This makes me want to get a fuzz war
It is the God of Fuzz.
@@ThePedalBored hey man, memory man hazarai is another great pedal if you wanna do MBV “reverse reverb” thing
DBA is great but for mbv clean and dirty just get a loomer pedal. It’s sick. I run the reverse into my other fuzzes and the Super Phat Mod and it sounds insane
I wish I saw this before I got the Polara. The reverse is so weird. I just wanted stereo and the other reverbs on it sound pretty great.
What are your thoughts on the rowin pure echo?
I had it so briefly and so long ago that I honestly can't remember... Only used it for the reverse function.
What EQ settings do you have on the Katana?
STARKNIGHT Flat EQ - everything at 12 o'clock
have the digiverb, on gated mode at full volume is the best
hey man, is it worth for its price? someone said it is absolutely horrible with distortion.whats your take on it.
@@jugalgogoi9113 must put the digiverb first than distortion, always. digiverb and rv7 are the best, simple and functional ;)
@@jugalgogoi9113 ua-cam.com/video/TKcBi45exAk/v-deo.html an example. gated mode always is the best at full volume in this rv7 or digiverb, i never like the reverse, for sure
Why did you choose the fuzz war over other fuzzes?
It's big and I'm frightened of it. Seemed appropriate.
Shoegaze all the way
My digitech polara is good with my ehx little big muff 👍
Which one is the cheapest?
Probably the digiverb
RIDE!
No, Kevin Shields and MBV from the most influential band of the genre by a long shot. “Soon” on loveless
Although Ride kicks ass.
WTFWTPOT?
cleft turnip See description above
@@ThePedalBored but i dont hear any difference.
Ah well, that's kind of true, yes.
cant hear shit over the fuzz
I didnt learn one thing. Thanks.for all the fuzz and playing the same riff the whole time. Could hardly even hear the wet reverses
Yeah, I don't know how useful it is. But I liked making it.
WTF is this noise?
Go listen to MBV.
go listen to Coldplay
I’m happy he doesn’t know
Shoegaze
Your fizz pedal ruined this demo
incorrect
Uhhhhhh it’s a DBA
They’re like the best pedals I own and I own a LOT
Worst noisy chaotic demo ever. :-/
And you sir apparently listen to what the radio tells you too 🙄