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  • @S.R.A.B0XER
    @S.R.A.B0XER 3 роки тому +14244

    Black Widow, a movie that came out this year, that was supposed to come out last year, but should've come out 7 years ago.

    • @Jormyyy
      @Jormyyy 3 роки тому +261

      My thoughts exactly

    • @TheMightyPollito
      @TheMightyPollito 3 роки тому +81

      Yes exactly

    • @i.am.adrian
      @i.am.adrian 3 роки тому +455

      I definitely enjoyed Black Widow, but yes, if it had come out 7 months after Civil War(instead of 7 years), I think it would have been much more impactful to the overall MCU.

    • @brokengiblet7271
      @brokengiblet7271 3 роки тому +205

      Agreed this should've come out around when Black Panther or spiderman did. Hard to care about Black Widow when we all know what she did has no real consequence on her when we all know she's in Infinity War and dies in Endgame.

    • @ollytherevenant1653
      @ollytherevenant1653 3 роки тому +147

      If only it came out instead of captain marvel that would have been fine but the MCU was too focused on trying to make Carol their poster girl when no one actually cared about her.

  • @Anonymous87721
    @Anonymous87721 3 роки тому +2252

    This movie feels like a sequel. The Budapest mission is the first movie

    • @the_aimanrosdi588
      @the_aimanrosdi588 3 роки тому +155

      the more i hear abt budapest references the more I want to see firsthand, what natasha and clint do back then and there. its always "back in Budapest" and "this is nothing like Budapest" that triggered me. i hope hawkeye's disney+ series will dive deeper into that story

    • @Nemenis
      @Nemenis 3 роки тому +21

      What was most painful in this movie was the quips and jokes.. felt like watching joss whedon movies (esp AOU with its horrible jokes)

    • @lenoxx_s1884
      @lenoxx_s1884 3 роки тому +9

      BudapeSHt

    • @KookiesNolly
      @KookiesNolly 3 роки тому +5

      Yep it should've come out in 2013/2014 followed by this one released in 2016/17. Nack then I would have prefered seeing original Avengers get expanded on in their own movies, instead of new characters getting a bland movie like Ant-man and even doctor strange. We really didn't need an ant-man movie. Let alone 2. Just putting him in a few movies as a side character and quickly explaining the subatomic stuff for Endgame would've been enough. I like doctor strange, but i feel like it would've been mch better if we saw him showing up randomly in some stories like Ragnarok to make him some STRANGE dude on the side, guarding the earth, and only later reveal the mysteries surronding him in a movie with Wanda.

    • @SGSensei
      @SGSensei 3 роки тому +8

      thats the issue Black Widow has no standalone or duo movies Thor and Hulk have one's Iron Man and Cap have 3 the Budapest mission should have been Hawkeye and her. You think Renner would say no, of course, he wouldn't. It's a shame for being one of the main avengers or original ones her and hawkeye got cucked hard and this just shows it

  • @verytired1163
    @verytired1163 3 роки тому +4735

    When he said “Obama was president back then.” it made me realize just how long ago Civil War was. I feel like sometimes I forget because of how much Marvel content we get. My god. Get me out of here.

    • @zacharyschafer9493
      @zacharyschafer9493 3 роки тому +144

      Relevant: Avengers Endgame was released over two years ago

    • @verytired1163
      @verytired1163 3 роки тому +92

      @@zacharyschafer9493 No way..... time just goes by I guess.

    • @rogue9230
      @rogue9230 3 роки тому +82

      @@verytired1163 avengers infinity war was 3 years ago sheesh I still remember watching the trailer and thinking how epic it will be

    • @pieceoftrash184
      @pieceoftrash184 3 роки тому +82

      Bush was still president when the first iron man movie came out

    • @lukesguywalker
      @lukesguywalker 3 роки тому +45

      @@pieceoftrash184 this assortment of words sent me into a contemplative spiral. thank you

  • @brokengiblet7271
    @brokengiblet7271 3 роки тому +1207

    Makes a good point. Hard to care about Black Widow when we all know she dies.

    • @davedeman8093
      @davedeman8093 3 роки тому +35

      My parents say the same thing to me.

    • @elmantishrimp1689
      @elmantishrimp1689 3 роки тому +37

      Same. But when I go back in rewatch the movies in chronical order I think this movie way be slightly better.

    • @brokengiblet7271
      @brokengiblet7271 3 роки тому +28

      @@elmantishrimp1689 True watching this after Civil War or even After Black Panther does make it slightly better.

    • @digibro2107
      @digibro2107 3 роки тому +21

      disagree. everyone knows how most Greek tragedies or Shakespeare plays end before reading them. (And this is TOTALLY on that level)

    • @danielz-v4083
      @danielz-v4083 3 роки тому +12

      Since they announced this movie I ALWAYS thought a much better plot would’ve been a 3/4 or even just half of the movie about that Mission Black Widow and Hawkeye keep talking about and then in the final act of the movie, the focus goes to Jeremy Reiner (Hawkeye) and he has to finish loose ends or something.
      Like, imagine how cool it would’ve been if this story was the kind that has constantly flashbacks to the point where they occupy a chunk of the story. It could’ve been focused on both of the characters but the true protagonist being Haweye and he would relive his memories of BW.
      Hell, “Ant-Man and the Wasp” is a thing. Just call it “Black Widow and Haweye” and BOOM! Two characters that needed their own movies now have their movie

  • @Doonesh
    @Doonesh 3 роки тому +678

    “Now this is a cool way to die” should’ve been Natasha’s last words

    • @_somerandomguyontheinternet_
      @_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 3 роки тому +64

      No.
      No they shouldn’t have been.

    • @Doonesh
      @Doonesh 3 роки тому +32

      @@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ in hindsight you’re right

    • @Midknight824
      @Midknight824 3 роки тому +29

      I don’t think that would’ve made sense when it came out and would’ve taken away from the seriousness of the scene

    • @victorpleitez768
      @victorpleitez768 3 роки тому +43

      Some one else already mention this, but it would’ve ruined the tone of that scene leading up to her death. And with that being said, that emotional moment of Yelena paying respect to Natasha’s grave was ruined by Elaine’s comedic introduction into the mcu.

    • @Doonesh
      @Doonesh 3 роки тому +6

      Guys this was a terrible idea i get it lmao

  • @Spectre-xj7lx
    @Spectre-xj7lx 3 роки тому +41

    I love that the sister - sister interaction was on point with how most other siblings actually interact.

  • @starfthegreat
    @starfthegreat 3 роки тому +152

    I think he was a bit too pessimistic at the end. Eternals is coming out soon, and there's that Skrull plotline that was teased at the end of Spiderman. There's alot more to the future of the MCU than Black Widow and Winter Soldier type characters

    • @DylanMadd
      @DylanMadd 3 роки тому +16

      SO much more to come. X-Men, F4, Galactus, Doom… Marvel could continue to make multiple franchises for decades.

    • @EligorArgentum
      @EligorArgentum 3 роки тому +14

      Yeh, and we have all the magic stuff with Wanda, Doctor Strange, the Multiverse etc

    • @rigobertorosenbaum9838
      @rigobertorosenbaum9838 3 роки тому +3

      @@DylanMadd I don’t know about this man. I can eternals probably being forgettable to general audiences. But I have hope because I’ve read eternals and I’ve actually really fell in love with it. But all I can hope for next is the X-Men

    • @RibbitGamingSubscribe
      @RibbitGamingSubscribe 3 роки тому +2

      and kang too now in loki episode 6

    • @DylanMadd
      @DylanMadd 3 роки тому +3

      @@rigobertorosenbaum9838 Guardians was similar before it came out. I’m also not certain it can work again (JGunn has a unique voice/style). It occurred to me when I thought about phases 1-3 and how great it was and nostalgic I already am for that era. And they could continue to bring those characters back (at great expense) and building on those storylines. OR, they could bring in new characters forever (with Eternals, XMen, F4 & more multiverse/cosmic stories) and never mention Cap or Stark ever again. There’s so much room and so many characters still it seems they can go on and on forever. I love it. Wish DC could do something similar.

  • @le_donut3536
    @le_donut3536 3 роки тому +233

    I wasn’t expecting this, but I actually really liked Black Widow. It was not worth the wait and all that, but it was very good in my eyes. Just my opinion tho

    • @kuyaserge2363
      @kuyaserge2363 3 роки тому +28

      Same lol. It was an alright movie haha. For the point of just feeding your hunger for some marvel movies, it was an alright watch.

    • @OfficialEdwardNewgate
      @OfficialEdwardNewgate 3 роки тому +6

      All I expected from this movie wasa super hero beat up a villain and I'm not disappointed. Thats probably also how I enjoyed captain marvel cause my expectations are astronomically low lmao

    • @nottoday6485
      @nottoday6485 3 роки тому +13

      I also loved Black widow! I think they are being to harsh with it :/

    • @tunafish5462
      @tunafish5462 3 роки тому +5

      I liked it but it was a bit too late so it made me kinda made ngl. we already know the end of her story so this movie is just an introduction for the new characters. still it doesn't deserve the 6.8 rating on IMDB.

    • @siljapeters2836
      @siljapeters2836 3 роки тому +1

      Subjectively I liket it a lot actually. However, I know that it is objectively pretty meh

  • @brando8408
    @brando8408 3 роки тому +344

    Task masters got more character development in his side quests in Spider-Man PS4 than this movie tbh…
    Just feels like a missed opportunity and I really feel like Marvel has been producing more content since endgame just for the hell of it and lack the passion and creativity of the movies that came before it.

    • @thefilmwatcher1302
      @thefilmwatcher1302 3 роки тому +38

      I haven’t seen this movie yet, but I’ll bet my PS4 that he’s still a country mile better here than the dumbass bullet sponge from the Avengers game.

    • @yowatchie
      @yowatchie 3 роки тому +16

      Well that’s because Marvel isn’t as bitchy with their video games and they’re allowed to be creative.

    • @argo9721
      @argo9721 3 роки тому

      @@thefilmwatcher1302 agreed I haven't seen the movie yet and even I know this is true

    • @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064
      @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064 3 роки тому +5

      Yes and he had a good design

    • @littlesamu5920
      @littlesamu5920 3 роки тому +14

      It wasnt even Taskmaster right? It was one of Natasha's cult enemies

  • @ryankujawa7062
    @ryankujawa7062 3 роки тому +90

    They ruined taskmaster, this could have been a cool villain

    • @Lampboi-jp6dt
      @Lampboi-jp6dt 3 роки тому +11

      They didn't ruin Taskmaster. This takes place 7 years before Endgame. That's a lot of time for the villain to evolve into the Taskmaster we know from other media. This one is basically just explaining the origin of Taskmaster, which is cool, and not killing them off makes me believe we will see them back in the future. Either as a hired mercenary or just an antihero. Don't give up on a character we will probably see again in the future. Hell, Abomination is in She-Hulk and Shang-Chi, the MCU doesn't forget characters that aren't dead, especially if they can add to the story in the future. Taskmaster showing up in a Captain America movie would be a great way to show how Sam can surpass Steve Rogers in some ways by showing him beat Taskmaster who is fighting the same as Steve Roger's (sans super-strength, of course).

    • @mrcheesemunch
      @mrcheesemunch 3 роки тому +15

      @@Lampboi-jp6dt But this Taskmaster was terrible and nothing like the comic book version so why would we even want to see more?
      The actual Taskmaster is way more fun, he's a cocky jerk who basically fanboys over the moves he copies from people while also being incredibly badass.
      I doubt she'll appear again honestly, unless they just retcon her and say "Oh no actually the REAL Taskmaster is this dude"

    • @victorpleitez768
      @victorpleitez768 3 роки тому +3

      @@Lampboi-jp6dt Being blown up by black widow is a nice origin, but you have to admit the movie doesn’t seem to care much for the character until the last minute. This all felt like a knock off Captain America: winter soldier. In that movie, the set up between Steve and WS was done way better. That movie both shows and tells us and the protagonist why they need to take the winter soldier as a serious threat. All the info dump for Taskmaster happens at the very end and it doesn’t leave as big of an impact like Captain America’s movie did.

    • @palody_en-ja
      @palody_en-ja 3 роки тому

      @@mrcheesemunch MCU isn't in the same universe, so why expect the same? Marvel doesn't want comic book fans to guess everything correctly either, would ruin all the fun for normies. There's plenty of time to develop them into a cocky (or whatever) character, now that they have their humanity back

    • @mrcheesemunch
      @mrcheesemunch 3 роки тому +2

      @@palody_en-ja Then why do they make incredibly predictable movies? I haven't read any of these comics and nothing in this movie surprised me at all, like it was pretty damn obvious they weren't going to leave Black Widow a child killer meaning the kid would be relevant later and oh, shocking, she's Taskmaster.

  • @Aleph12
    @Aleph12 3 роки тому +15

    Am I the only one still with mix feelings about what happened almost at the end with Natasha being left alone waiting for Ross to get her, the camera cuts and then we find her with her friend in Norway (?) I guess.
    It feels like they ran out of ideas of how to make her escape that situation and simply move on. Who thought that was a good idea??

  • @fleeceblanket9515
    @fleeceblanket9515 3 роки тому +14

    I liked it, personally. I liked that it wasn't setting up twelve future movies, but was just doing its own thing and exploring a few new facets of Natasha.

    • @oddish3152
      @oddish3152 2 роки тому +1

      Same. As a stand-alone movie, it's really good. But, when you compare it to other Marvel movies and see what it _could've_ been, it's not as great. It mostly depends on your perspective, I guess.

  • @21penguins37
    @21penguins37 3 роки тому +135

    this should have been a black widow movie 2. the first one being the Budapest mission.

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 3 роки тому +13

      You can blame Disney for being so hesitant on creating a female solo action movie. Fans have loved Black Widow since Iron Man 2. Her solo flick should have been the first, NOT Captain Marvel. ScarJo herself is also way more likable than Brie Larson. She has no political agenda; in fact, she despises social media.
      I'll bet you anything they did hesitate because she wouldn't promote their uber SJW mentality the way Brie did.

    • @Lampboi-jp6dt
      @Lampboi-jp6dt 3 роки тому +2

      @@nahor88 honestly, I think Captain Marvel was a better movie than this one. Black Widow is cool, but outside of the Cap movies and Endgame, ScarJo always seemed like a weirdly written character, and it was made even more obvious in this movie. I'm not saying a Black Widow movie couldn't work, but they didn't lean hard enough into the Mission Impossible aspect. They tried to make it more of a superhero movie than the abilities of the character could justify. Up until the last act of the movie, I could believe that Widow could actually pull off the action being shown. The final set piece was completely different. Being more invested in the side characters (especially Yelena) only adds to that. The Taskmaster plot was fun, and every time they showed up I loved seeing how they fought (though I've always loved the Taskmaster character, and I hope they bring out the actual skull mask if/when we see them again).
      I think the movie would've felt more than a 6/10 for me if they would've kept the stakes lower, like a Civil War style end scene, where it's only a couple characters, and nothing crazy going on in the background. Civil War's end scene resonates so hard for me because 1) obviously the conflict between Cap and Tony, but also 2) there isn't anything else happening. No world ending event or destruction, just 2 best friends fighting for keeps because 1 wants to save his other friend.
      Hindsight is 20/20, and there are choices I would never have made that I actually enjoyed quite a bit, but this movie feels like it was made before Civil War, and not just because it takes place there.

    • @AIDENo_o
      @AIDENo_o 3 роки тому

      @@nahor88 well I wouldn't blame Disney I would blame the old head of marvel studios he said that female leads would not make money but now we have Kevin feige who is not a sexist and racist

  • @maximussaktish
    @maximussaktish 3 роки тому +3

    "Normal Marvel Movie" you perfectly explained this movie in 3 words

  • @brenenhatton9616
    @brenenhatton9616 3 роки тому +119

    Could you make a video on Avengers: Earths mightiest heroes.

  • @Midknight824
    @Midknight824 3 роки тому +19

    After watching the movie, gotta agree with the “not against Marvel doing more grounded stories, but they aren’t doing it good enough for me to care.”
    I genuinely found it hard to attach myself to this movie because the story isn’t interesting to me. I’m not the biggest spy movie fan, so that might be a part into it. The two villains aren’t interesting either, one of which is just a let down. And the action in this movie didn’t feel special, no fight scene necessarily stood out to me.

  • @sumtathesquirrel6518
    @sumtathesquirrel6518 3 роки тому +5

    I watched it today and I honestly loved it, it was just a light hearted throwaway action filled movie that had me at the edge of my seat and I loved every second of it.

  • @crasyman101
    @crasyman101 3 роки тому +7

    This was definitely a black widow's replacement setup movie

  • @ShadowAshe
    @ShadowAshe 3 роки тому +11

    If this film came out 7 years ago, It could of been top 10 MCU.

    • @trevpilled
      @trevpilled 3 роки тому +3

      Nah it’s still bad, lmao if it came out back then it would still be bad.

    • @drewmantia
      @drewmantia 3 роки тому

      Absolutely not

    • @jotabeas22
      @jotabeas22 3 роки тому +2

      Hah! No. No development of who Natasha was, really, a shame considering SJ's character was always treated as filler.
      Nothing for the Communist Captain (the Crimson Dynamo :P) explaining how the hell he fits in a timeline so, so different from the comics (where he *does* fight Captain America). Also, the Crimson Dynamo dig... Really? So... They point at comics (Iron Man Cold War era villain) and that's, like... All?
      And Taskmaster didn't get any cool scene. Could've taken on all four of 'em, anyway.
      This felt like a rushed interludium for the damn Disney+ series that came out too late.
      If it had came out earlier... What would it have brought, if not even that? People criticise Ant-Man and the Wasp a lot (I think it was actually qyite good, albeit forgettable, but so are most marvel movies) but this... This would've been below Thor The Dark World.

    • @KotoCrash
      @KotoCrash 3 роки тому

      No

    • @CallMeFi
      @CallMeFi 3 роки тому

      @@jotabeas22 I mean, we know there were more super-powered soldiers while Rogers was still an icicle. I just assumed his story about fighting Cap was a nod to that

  • @michaelbanner7588
    @michaelbanner7588 3 роки тому +67

    The mom mention pulls back to endgame when she’s shocked that red skull knows her moms true name

    • @emicadena2105
      @emicadena2105 3 роки тому +13

      Think Red Skull said her dads name, not her moms

    • @zunaidparker
      @zunaidparker 3 роки тому +11

      @@emicadena2105 indeed. "Natasha, daughter of Ivan".
      I like the callback to Dreyghov's daughter...it comes straight from her interrogation of Loki in The Avengers on the helicarrier, when Loki tries to goad her by bringing up this incident that he made Clint reveal to him.

  • @ayea28
    @ayea28 3 роки тому +1

    This movie made me cry. I haven't cried since Infinity War and Captain America: Civil War. 8/10 It was late, but I was invested and had a great time.

  • @JusRed48
    @JusRed48 3 роки тому +5

    Everyone memeing the "Taskmaster got more character development in Spider-Man's PS4" is cute, but not true.
    Taskmaster had more personality, but they have equal character development, which is basically none at all.

    • @proudofyoudick
      @proudofyoudick 3 роки тому

      props for the misdirection

    • @demiliomason1565
      @demiliomason1565 3 роки тому

      That's the joke dude. Taskmaster in the game gives an inkling more as to who they are than this film did.

  • @gregoryredlon4186
    @gregoryredlon4186 3 роки тому +2

    Remember, captain went back in time which leaves the option open of them fighting in the 80s

  • @MARDIA10
    @MARDIA10 3 роки тому +4

    I really enjoyed it, I think they did a great work with character development, and dialogue was fantastic, I think the biggest fault is in the villan because he wasn't too dangerous or didn't really did it for me, but I loved it even with that :)

  • @asherward1589
    @asherward1589 2 роки тому +2

    I went in expecting it to hate it and it's one of my favorite MCU movies now. Felt different to me, different style, more like a real movie.

  • @Jalugi1395
    @Jalugi1395 3 роки тому +3

    "Black Widow is watchable."
    - Cosmonaut, 2021

  • @jhen0
    @jhen0 3 роки тому +9

    I wouldn’t lump Bucky in with the “normal” avengers like you did, considering he’s a super soldier

    • @korawitbuttramee618
      @korawitbuttramee618 3 роки тому +4

      Pls, Marvel had no idea what the power level is. Loki beat *Cap* and able to withstand being mauled by Hulk, yet Jane Foster was able to make him flinch with a slap and he got his ass beaten up by a human in his own show.

    • @argo9721
      @argo9721 3 роки тому

      Dude he's normal compared to most people in the Marvel universe

    • @veepersjeepers
      @veepersjeepers 3 роки тому

      @@argo9721 that's like saying spiderman is normal. they can chuck helicopters why is the mcu so afraid to let them be powerful

  • @MrMinechest
    @MrMinechest 3 роки тому +16

    "The world did an oopsie"
    Comedy gold

  • @ryderls2729
    @ryderls2729 3 роки тому +63

    TaskMaster was horrible, everything else was good for an mcu film

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 3 роки тому +30

      They just turned Taskmaster into a "Winter Soilder" Robotic assassin type, that's not who the character is.

    • @blobjorn3248
      @blobjorn3248 3 роки тому +2

      @@themadtitan7603 even messed up how their powers work.

    • @djgreene5440
      @djgreene5440 3 роки тому +3

      @@themadtitan7603 taskmaster should have been a villain in a avengers movie

    • @trevpilled
      @trevpilled 3 роки тому

      The writing was so bad

    • @djgreene5440
      @djgreene5440 3 роки тому +1

      @@allnotes4568 yes he could have been a side villain in a avengers movie fighting captain America, black widow and Hawkeye with a bigger main villain

  • @AJFilms14
    @AJFilms14 3 роки тому +2

    They didn’t make a movie about the Budapest mission because then they would have to write a plot that lives up to the energy they set it up to be, it’s like the end of game of thrones, they’re never gonna write something cool enough.

  • @ricardovivar8154
    @ricardovivar8154 3 роки тому

    i've never felt that a movie was cutted as much as this one since justice league 2017

  • @tifaa1313
    @tifaa1313 3 роки тому +1

    I agree with most of what you said, especially about the timeline being disappointed and feeling too little too late, but i gotta say, as a woman, it was genually the first time ever that i saw women being well-written in a marvel movie, with actual theme that are intimately linked to the experience of being a woman. Because it's so rare, to me, it made me forgive a lot a the weaker parts of the movie. Some scenes just hit right in the guts, like when the villain casually mentions little girls being the most expandable resources of the planet. Now, you made me realize that this movie did not really made me care that much more for natasha, she's not a character i ever really connected to before. I mean, I wasn't supposed to, she always was just a vehicle for male fantasies. Anyway, I see a lot of criticism for this movie from men and I wonder if it's just because they kind of miss the main message? I don't think the rest of the plot was really supposed to matter, it's all about sisterhood. Idk, maybe I see too much into it, and like I said, I do agree with the criticism, just think there's something else to get from it.

    • @sunnysied713
      @sunnysied713 3 роки тому

      Did you like how Marvel turned an evil, involuntary hysterectomy into a period-type joke to gross out Alexei?
      Black Widow is about sisterhood, but the execution is very flawed. Early on, Nat wants to save the Widow on the smoke stack, who is already established to be capable killer that's under mind control (which requires an antidote). It was very weird that Natasha tried to save her, while the Widow was still trying to kill her. Did she actually think she could reason with someone under Mind Control when an Antidote is required?
      I didn't like how the Widows were freed and Natasha just gives them a cheesy pep talk (be free, my little birds!) while the Citadel was catastrophically sinking. The resolution with the Widows should've happened at the end, in the prologue, and we should've seen the full range of different emotional reactions from the women (from crying, to shock, to confusion, to anger, etc) for the years of abuse by the Red Room. Instead, we got a cheesey Disney/Marvel happy ending.
      The sisterhood theme feels like it was just stapled onto the story as a corporate bullet point, not a real storytelling goal.

  • @deadboi8989
    @deadboi8989 3 роки тому

    This was a reply to someone else’s comment but I want more people to read this: at the beginning they set it up like the whole movie is a genre swap from the original MCU films, it’s dark, depressing, with some serious undertones but then half way through it’s like nvm this is just a marvel movie again. The Disney + shows are a great example of marvel trying new things with the tones and genres of what they produce and it would make sense for this to have come out right before wandavision to “warmup the audience” and have them adjust to the new direction they want to take marvel (don’t forget doctor strange 2 is supposed to be a full on horror flic) but with it releasing now and not years ago it’s just a bad placement of what could have been a pretty good movie.

  • @f.rproductions3118
    @f.rproductions3118 3 роки тому +37

    This feels like the Russian version of Captain America: The winter soldier

  • @jxsecruzzzz
    @jxsecruzzzz 3 роки тому +2

    this movie was fire ☹️

  • @carlossalgado3677
    @carlossalgado3677 3 роки тому +7

    I really enjoyed this movie

  • @ginoblackofficial
    @ginoblackofficial 3 роки тому

    This movie takes place between INFINITY WARS & END GAME.. It fits the timeline perfectly if you pay attention to the last few AVENGERS films. The end of this movie flows directly into the events of END GAME.

  • @weeblewonder
    @weeblewonder Рік тому

    Black Widow.
    The one character perfect for a character rich small story of a James Bond esque spy thriller.
    Instead we got Black Widow surfing down debris of a sky fortress like Legolas in the Hobbit.
    Ever since Iron Man 2 I was praying for a Black Widow movie. A decade later, there is still not a Black Widow movie. Just a checkmark in the "Missed Potential" column for MCU on this one.

  • @connorsmith9450
    @connorsmith9450 3 роки тому

    I personally think this movie deserves a bit more credit. It had competent and inferred messages, some great action set pieces, cool characters and had well timed comedy rather than the past movies just cracking a joke at every corner. Its not perfect, but I'm happy with the more darker, riskier movies breaking the classic formula. This is how Captain Marvel should have been approached imo.

  • @ubermaster1
    @ubermaster1 3 роки тому +7

    It's definitely a movie made by Marvel Studios, that's for sure.

  • @dudemcfurgusson7179
    @dudemcfurgusson7179 3 роки тому +1

    It's to set up her sister as the next black widow.
    That's the point of the movie.
    It's so when this character shows up in the next avengers, people aren't sitting in theaters saying "wait, who the fuck is this broad?"

  • @TheSpiralCurse
    @TheSpiralCurse 3 роки тому +1

    I liked it personally, I saw it as Ip Man with lasers and guns. Disposable but still enjoyed it

  • @AJFilms14
    @AJFilms14 3 роки тому

    I really liked it, for the same reason you like fast and furious. It’s fast and furious with badass women beating people up and I love that. I’m here for it all day.

  • @spartanK42
    @spartanK42 3 роки тому +1

    I found it funny that when the Red Room crashed I'm assuming somewhere in rural Russia, the first authorities to respond were Americans lol. I was totally expecting Russian authorities and it caught me off guard.

  • @dcavazosq242
    @dcavazosq242 3 роки тому

    I walked in to this movie for some reason expecting it to take place in like 2005 or something, before Iron Man 2, like an origin so when it started in 1995 then cut to 21 years later I sat there like "am I missing something?"

  • @Ki_Adi_Mundi
    @Ki_Adi_Mundi 3 роки тому +4

    5:55 How is Bucky a "normal human" Avenger? He's a near immortal super soldier with a vibranium arm...

  • @marcelarossi8737
    @marcelarossi8737 3 роки тому +1

    I am the angriest at the fucking scene with nat's headstone, that should've been her proper send off, and was taken over by a joke and a hawkeye show teaser

  • @rival._.tea1305
    @rival._.tea1305 3 роки тому +1

    After avengers there should’ve been a black widow where we see her back story and maybe a of red guardian mission. And it is the hawk eye and black widow Budapest mission. Then this movie stays almost identical and fix up some loose ends and throw in some call backs this would be an amazing sequel. And the taskmaster would make more sense. Then when we see red guardian grow it would mean much more. The endgame fight between Natasha and hawk eye would have more weight. When we see the blonde girl, could’ve been a reveal. If this had been a sequel to the Budapest mission. And had the back story in that, the red guardian and mother reunion, just like everything else would be a lot better. This movie might have been really really good.

  • @DFalco-nz5tl
    @DFalco-nz5tl 3 роки тому +1

    There’s a very simple explanation for why they chose to do a story settling scores from a much more interesting story, with her sister being the only character with any interesting development.
    It’s just a commercial for the new hot chick that scissors henchmen to death.

  • @robertrocker
    @robertrocker 3 роки тому +1

    I can't believe this movie wasn't even near as compelling as Civil War, which came out 5 Years Ago! Even Natasha herself was characterized waaaay better in civil war than in this movie. It's really strange, i felt the same thing when i watched The New Mutants, like i saw a movie of 2016 5 years later

  • @rabbitsfoot33
    @rabbitsfoot33 3 роки тому

    Black Widow feels like a movie Marvel never wanted to make but they felt pressured to by fans so they quickly scraped something together off the bottom of their shoe and threw it on the big screen. there's still enough in it (yelena) for me to rewatch but i won't argue against anyone saying it did the absolute bare minimum.

  • @beprochronistic1009
    @beprochronistic1009 3 роки тому +1

    black widow was basically ca: the winter soldier or smthn

  • @montgomerynovak2194
    @montgomerynovak2194 3 роки тому

    "...And we didn't know her back then"
    While showing Task Master....
    Subtle, very subtle

  • @MrBassem95
    @MrBassem95 3 роки тому

    I feel like I could have made this movie much better by changing when this movie takes place.
    This movie should have taken place between the first Budapest mission.
    After the start of Endgame and then after Endgame itself.
    Have the movie cut between these three times to have a connected plot where we see Black Widow go and destroy the first Red Room. After Thanos snaps Black Widow finds out about the reemergence of the Red Room and it culminates with her fighting her sister and freeing her, but the leader of the red room gets away. Instead of the plot of killing the little girl have Black Widows guilt come from being able to go back and save her sister but choosing not to. Then have after Endgame be about Black Widows sister taking up the mantle and finally bringing down the red room and finishing what Natasha started.

  • @captainguyman7382
    @captainguyman7382 3 роки тому +1

    Taskmaster is one of my favorite characters in Marvel ever. Ever since his appearance in that one Spider-Man episode with Deadpool (another one of my favorites) I loved him. He was just so cool. Then they turned him into a silent type terminator who is given tech for his ability instead of him actually having the skill that made him so fearsome. Making him a bland side antagonist. Then showed he was the daughter. Which was bad for two reasons, just shut down the “oh my god how is black widow going to deal with the fact she killed a child” and also because of how jarring it was. Jarring because it’s so god damned obvious that a man is under there. A man who is a completely different build and moves in such a obvious way. If they wanted taskmaster to be a boring daughter then at least make the stunt person a woman. It’s an insult to make it a man. Nonetheless I still got all giddy when I saw him copy moves from different characters. And I got all giddy when I saw that awesome costume. My favorite costume design in the mcu.

  • @evanclp514
    @evanclp514 3 роки тому

    i think the movie was fine. not the worst MCU movie by far. most of the characters were likeable. the plot was okay and it never felt like things were dragging. the stakes were low and obviously this movie should've come out like 6 years ago but it is what it is. i still liked to learn about black widow's backstory and meet her "family." i also think the movie did a pretty good job of letting us get to know Yelena, who will presumably take up the mantle in future MCU movies.

  • @goldenhand9107
    @goldenhand9107 3 роки тому +7

    as bland as this was, seeing Julia Louise Dreyfuss show up was kinda satisfying. made it feel like watching FATWS was kinda worth it to see the overarching tie ins.
    but yeah this movie is 6 years too late

    • @sunnysied713
      @sunnysied713 3 роки тому +5

      When Yelena visits Natasha's grave, that should've been a great moment to give her a proper send-off. What do we get? Valentina blows her nose ridiculously loud and complains about allergies. We got a dumb joke and a teaser for the D+ Hawkeye show. Lol

  • @isaiahgunn6435
    @isaiahgunn6435 3 роки тому

    i think the movie was just centered around What Black Widow did with the other characters. she made Red Guardian humble and more compassionate. For Yelena an excellent way to introduce a character and give us a reason to like her which i think it did well. i agree it dosent add much to a giant overall story but we know how black widow ends so does it need to? I see it as farewell to black widow, a redemptive story for crazy Russians to have a heart, and a newly invested interest in a cool likeable stylish character. which i would count as a successful movie. 7.5/10

  • @thelastreaper9726
    @thelastreaper9726 3 роки тому +5

    After the post credits scene. I just know yelena is gonna be the villain to the Hawkeye show.

  • @brendankyle7309
    @brendankyle7309 3 роки тому

    They should’ve just made a movie about her in Budapest or her escaping the red room. Why they didn’t do an origin story is beyond me

  • @dusty3842
    @dusty3842 3 роки тому

    One little thing. They are setting up for the Thunderbolts. Look it up.

  • @claytonrios1
    @claytonrios1 3 роки тому

    Talk about a film that really should have come out several years ago. Even though I still enjoyed it.

  • @badjuju6717
    @badjuju6717 3 роки тому +1

    I think it’s marvels attempt to tackle human trafficking and i like that honestly I liked it

    • @sunnysied713
      @sunnysied713 3 роки тому

      Marvel pulled all of its punches on the human trafficking storyline. They dipped their toe in some serious subject matter, but quickly retreated back to their action comedy, family friendly, campy storytelling. There weren't any really great scenes. Many were corny. Marvel even turned horrific hysterectomies (forced female sterilization) into a cheap Disney punchline.

  • @leozimmer6140
    @leozimmer6140 3 роки тому +3

    4:50 ok i felt this so hard I was just waiting for him during that fight to go “did I ever tell you how I beat captain America” and do some dumb shit then shove taskmaster out the window that was right there and yeah it woulda been cheesy but it woulda been some sort of payoff for something they set up so much

  • @mileslaw
    @mileslaw 3 роки тому +2775

    This movie should have been made 5 years ago, and weirdly enough, it does feels like it was made 5 years ago.

    • @gabeusgong
      @gabeusgong 3 роки тому +133

      The villains and formula both feel very early 2010s-esque

    • @puppetstudio4989
      @puppetstudio4989 3 роки тому +16

      I wouldn't be surprise if that was the case honestly, knowing other movie's history

    • @genevieveroy780
      @genevieveroy780 3 роки тому +1

      💯

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic 3 роки тому

      Yooooooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

    • @dapperspirit3665
      @dapperspirit3665 3 роки тому +40

      For all we know this movie could've been written 5 years ago and was shelved until they saw the success of other female lead superhero films like Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel.

  • @Heliyum
    @Heliyum 3 роки тому +4264

    Hearing "Obama was still president when that movie came out." felt like being pushed off a cliff.

    • @MystiqMiu
      @MystiqMiu 3 роки тому +170

      cruella spoilers

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 роки тому +3

      My haters throw rocks at me and IT hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! I am the funniest UA-camr EVAH! Please agree, dear he

    • @TechnologicallyTechnical
      @TechnologicallyTechnical 3 роки тому +26

      T- that wasn't that long ago though... r- right?
      *Who can say where the road goes, where the day flows*
      ~Stares longingly at pre-Trump era~ ...Don't leave me...

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +10

      @@AxxLAfriku You’re not the greatest UA-camr in the world, you’re the biggest loser in the world.

    • @ianparr9950
      @ianparr9950 3 роки тому +22

      @@TechnologicallyTechnical FR I miss the pre-trump era

  • @benjaminarnold51
    @benjaminarnold51 3 роки тому +2242

    I find it kind of insulting that this character waited seven years to finally get her movie, and it was after she fucking died.

  • @Captain_Ironblood
    @Captain_Ironblood 3 роки тому +1971

    I think they waited way too long to pull the trigger on this movie, even pre-COVID. This should’ve come out before Endgame for the sake of Black Widow’s story.

    • @RottingDragon
      @RottingDragon 3 роки тому +42

      Google the name Ike Perlmutter and you will come to understand why Black Widow didn't get a movie sooner.

    • @tyde4610
      @tyde4610 3 роки тому +37

      @@RottingDragon we all know why there were no female led marvel movies before like 2019 but it just feels like this should’ve been out a while ago. after the ambition of infinity war/endgame and the disney plus shows, it really seemed like marvel was going in a new, more complex direction, so for this to come out after all that is just a lil meh.

    • @ziad3077
      @ziad3077 3 роки тому +30

      @@tyde4610 bruh NO female led movies before 2019 lol

    • @KanyeT1306
      @KanyeT1306 3 роки тому +3

      @@RottingDragon Perlmutter was based. He's the reason why the MCU is as big as it is today.

    • @RottingDragon
      @RottingDragon 3 роки тому +62

      @@KanyeT1306 He's also the reason why it took so long to get solo Black Widow movie. He might have done a lot to get the MCU to where it is, but he's also the reason it was held back in many ways.

  • @elmantishrimp1689
    @elmantishrimp1689 3 роки тому +2780

    The Budapest mission sounds like it's basically the Kessel Run of the Marvel movies

    • @m.x.jackson675
      @m.x.jackson675 3 роки тому +256

      At least they showed us the Kessel Run

    • @Shinransa
      @Shinransa 3 роки тому +108

      So... you'll originally never get to see it but once you do it's not as great as it was made out to be?

    • @marcool3645
      @marcool3645 3 роки тому +182

      @@Shinransa nah that scene was badass

    • @Shinransa
      @Shinransa 3 роки тому +21

      @@marcool3645 I don't know, all we saw was Natasha watching a kid from a car then she blows up the kid.

    • @iskandermartens8744
      @iskandermartens8744 3 роки тому +62

      @@Shinransa he meant the kessel run scene

  • @LASAGNA_LARRY
    @LASAGNA_LARRY 3 роки тому +2608

    This movie had a super inconsistent tone. The intro sequence with the separation of the family is honestly one of the darkest intros in the entire MCU. But fast forward 21 years when the family finally reunites, and everyone primarily communicates via quips/jokes. The whole movie just felt... weird.

    • @victorpleitez768
      @victorpleitez768 3 роки тому +358

      Elaine’s awful comedic introduction at Natasha’s grave is the fucking worst. I’m about ready to cry over her sister coming to pay respects and then I hear someone blowing their nose multiple times, like the disrespect here vs Tony’s funeral is infuriating

    • @palody_en-ja
      @palody_en-ja 3 роки тому +68

      @@victorpleitez768 maybe Marvel wants you to hate her, she's obviously a baddie

    • @maxim196
      @maxim196 3 роки тому +87

      @@palody_en-ja who cares...don't shit on a beloved Avenger that has been there from the start .

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 3 роки тому +157

      The intro actually showed lots of potential - even the plane chase is actually really tense and the Idea of kids being used as cover during a dangerous spy mission and pretty much being shelves for later use when it's done was just so heartbreaking.
      And there are a few shades of that later in the movie - the villain is actually pretty terrifying, not so much as an evil mastermind, but as a serial abuser - and I don't think it's a coincidence that he kinda looks like Harvey Weinstein.
      But there is a ton of formulaic action, like when Natasha and Yelena meet and thus they "have" to fight to establish their fighting styles, even though in that moment they supposedly both know they're on the same side. Then Right after we have the red room agents going after them. empty action scenes filling the void rather than progressing the story.
      Even potentially very powerful scenes like when Yelena kills the former widow who frees her, or when the bad guy euthanizes another one in budapest - are painted in the most bland cartoonish MCU brush and I just wish that a little more of the raw emotion and Indie filmmaking sensibilities of the intro shone through in those moments. It's not like the movie is devoid of themes, even if it's a pretty generic movie about abuse and misogyny.

    • @noobmasterruben5167
      @noobmasterruben5167 3 роки тому +25

      I agree. I thought I was watching a Jason Bourne movie in the first 20 minutes because it looked so dark

  • @runix_dragoon
    @runix_dragoon 3 роки тому +1418

    Honestly this should've been a sequal to a movie that would've been focused in that Budapest mission.

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 3 роки тому +45

      Shoot, I thought by the trailer that’s what it would be about
      Her going back to ground zero where things might’ve begun or something or someone (taskmaster) hunting her because of what when down there, maybe people died there that was family or friends for taskmaster and they’d blame Natasha for it all directly....imagine that movie, cliche but more focused

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +5

      @@ninjanibba4259 How do I keep finding you?

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 3 роки тому +5

      @@Flome810 idk, maybe you’re stalking me

    • @TheJadedJames
      @TheJadedJames 3 роки тому +15

      Yeah ... I felt like I was watching Natasha's version of Captain America 2 ... only there was never a Captain America 1 to make me give a damn about HYDRA, Bucky etc

    • @kjbeast677
      @kjbeast677 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheJadedJames That's honestly a perfect way to put it

  • @jimmythethird5514
    @jimmythethird5514 3 роки тому +2965

    “Obama was president when that movie came out!” God I feel old

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 3 роки тому +76

      Me too and I'm 21

    • @Deimos_the_Autist
      @Deimos_the_Autist 3 роки тому +44

      @@rhyswallace3590 same exact thing haha nothing made me feel older than when i found out that batman beyond was having its 20th anniversary a bit ago

    • @bzenga5981
      @bzenga5981 3 роки тому +25

      how do we go back i want to spend more time with the bionicles

    • @Mohzbee
      @Mohzbee 3 роки тому +18

      Having watched that movie a few weeks ago, it hit like a truck to realize just how long ago it came out.

    • @pergys6991
      @pergys6991 3 роки тому +6

      I am so ancient

  • @drag0nerd
    @drag0nerd 3 роки тому +278

    They turned cocky, wise-cracking Taskmaster into an emotionless, edgy killing machine. I think it would have been better if they had used Deathlok instead, considering he died and was made into a cyborg. But I guess we'll never see Taskmaster in his full glory considering he was just another plot-twisted, one-off villain.

    • @DishyLemon
      @DishyLemon 3 роки тому +11

      They already used Deathlok in Agents of Shield but I get what you mean

    • @drag0nerd
      @drag0nerd 3 роки тому +15

      @@DishyLemon TBH I didn't have the motivation to finish the show, so thanks for letting me know.

    • @duckman8943
      @duckman8943 2 роки тому +5

      @@drag0nerd
      That show got boring

    • @muhammadtarunaaldiramadan248
      @muhammadtarunaaldiramadan248 2 роки тому

      @@drag0nerd AOS? atleast give season 4 a try, they peaked at that.

    • @drag0nerd
      @drag0nerd 2 роки тому

      @@muhammadtarunaaldiramadan248 Wait, which one did Ward (or whatever his name was) die

  • @iihastega5972
    @iihastega5972 3 роки тому +2723

    I realised after the film that the plot of the film was just:
    Natasha: “Where do I find the Red Room?
    Lets ask Yelena”
    Yelena: “Don’t know, let’s ask Alexei.”
    Alexei: “Don’t know, let’s ask Milena.”
    Milena: “I know, I’ll take you there.”
    *End Credits*

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +212

      And people are saying this is the best marvel movie. They butchered and bastardized taskmaster.

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +168

      @Damian Rubio Are you kidding? I’m all here for originality, but when they ruin a character for no reason and make a movie just to milk a character, that’s isn’t good or even “original”. Don’t be one of those guys that blindly support anything marvel puts out.

    • @Flome810
      @Flome810 3 роки тому +22

      @Damian Rubio Bet you haven’t even touched a comic.

    • @glendarjj3991
      @glendarjj3991 3 роки тому +106

      @@Flome810 yeah I have never read a comic and yet I was very dissapointed with taskmaster, not only as another bland marvel villain, but because, like comic fans, my expectations were high.
      How so? Because of the spider-man ps4 game. Yes the freaking spider-man game gave the character so much better representation from small side quests alone.

    • @owen______
      @owen______ 3 роки тому +3

      For half a second I thought it meant the red room from Twin Peaks and I got real excited...

  • @dys5559
    @dys5559 3 роки тому +1170

    I feel like the stakes in the movie were geared toward Yelena. I was TERRIFIED of her dying so I was pretty invested

    • @victorpleitez768
      @victorpleitez768 3 роки тому +75

      The freedom of all the other widows is what was really at Stake, I just don’t like how all the widows became clueless after they broke free of the mind control and had to be told by the main characters to escape.

    • @Sirfluffy51
      @Sirfluffy51 3 роки тому +3

      “Invested’ I see what you did there lol

    • @ybkid6513
      @ybkid6513 3 роки тому +5

      Who gives af

    • @Thee_Deputy
      @Thee_Deputy 3 роки тому +42

      Literally nobody thought she was gonna die considering they’ve been promoting her as essentially the “new Black Widow”.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 3 роки тому +4

      The movie made me feel it was more Yelena’s story than Nat’s. But you know what I look forward to seeing her again. You know she’s going to be in the Hawkeye series.

  • @sachitpatnaik4834
    @sachitpatnaik4834 3 роки тому +2614

    Yelena was hands down the best character in this movie.

    • @ryderls2729
      @ryderls2729 3 роки тому +23

      Agreed

    • @vinnytalks_
      @vinnytalks_ 3 роки тому +6

      I might have to agree with that

    • @oneframegames2963
      @oneframegames2963 3 роки тому +109

      Easily but I really think they made it that way so we like her in the mcu. It’s just unfortunate that this was black widows last time in the mcu and she’s not even the stand out character

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 3 роки тому +48

      It felt like the film was setting up a more interesting character with her but she had to be stuck in a supporting role, I hope the next Black Widow films haver her as the lead.

    • @edumacatedmoe7565
      @edumacatedmoe7565 3 роки тому +21

      Who would've thought Taskmaster was a female version of the cyborgs from Invincible with a mechanical sharingan?

  • @duwangchew9902
    @duwangchew9902 3 роки тому +962

    This movie's biggest sin IMO is turning Taskmaster into a bland terminator-esque bad guy. I don't mind the twist near the end regarding the character, I just think they can't have this villain not be a wise cracking asshole and still make it work. It's a big part of what makes Taskmaster fun.

    • @DarkCreator98
      @DarkCreator98 3 роки тому +93

      That’s literally what I think, when I think of taskmaster, he usually has something to say, that’s why I like him

    • @avag4334
      @avag4334 3 роки тому +85

      That’s exactly what I think. I’ve always loved Taskmaster in the comics but they turned them into a Terminator or another Winter Solider like character. I’m fine with that but cmon, it’s Taskmaster

    • @JReds-bw9kg
      @JReds-bw9kg 3 роки тому +39

      Maybe make the daughter actually work for her father? I think that could work. I also think it's possible that they could use the Taskmaster Program or whatever it was called to have someone else take the mantle of Taskmaster.

    • @NerdzTM
      @NerdzTM 3 роки тому +34

      I mean, to quote my dad when we saw this movie
      "They (the director and writers) saw Terminator and liked that"

    • @madebynpa104
      @madebynpa104 3 роки тому +21

      The only way I think it would've worked better is if they made Taskmaster even more of a threat in this movie. I think the reveal was pretty cool but the ending was very meh, and if you're going to have a meh ending with this "scary" Taskmaster you might as well have gone with the asshole wisecracking taskmaster then

  • @chopper8209
    @chopper8209 3 роки тому +1219

    This movie should’ve been released before endgame

    • @The-Real-JD
      @The-Real-JD 3 роки тому +16

      This movie shouldn't have been released

    • @Namato360
      @Namato360 3 роки тому +41

      @@The-Real-JD No

    • @Namato360
      @Namato360 3 роки тому +26

      @@The-Real-JD Your opinion....sucks.

    • @The-Real-JD
      @The-Real-JD 3 роки тому

      @@Namato360 So do yours

    • @isabellaearnhardt6380
      @isabellaearnhardt6380 3 роки тому +5

      @@The-Real-JD have you seen it

  • @cattiestsage1386
    @cattiestsage1386 3 роки тому +700

    Loved the post credit scene when Dom shows up and explains to her why family is important

    • @musyrifo
      @musyrifo 3 роки тому +43

      Dom will return in Avengers: Family

  • @nnamdiede1180
    @nnamdiede1180 3 роки тому +831

    Marvels peak of “grounded type hero” spy story is still winter soldier, that movie is top tier marvel. If they can do more stuff like that again than were good

    • @argo9721
      @argo9721 3 роки тому +2

      True

    • @nobodycares743
      @nobodycares743 3 роки тому +39

      Nah, it was daredevil

    • @davimelo9181
      @davimelo9181 3 роки тому +23

      To me that movie is kinda overrated

    • @nnamdiede1180
      @nnamdiede1180 3 роки тому +3

      @@nobodycares743 Nah but hey think what you want

    • @nnamdiede1180
      @nnamdiede1180 3 роки тому +6

      @@davimelo9181 Nah… but I guess your allowed to have an opinion

  • @GD-fi7rm
    @GD-fi7rm 3 роки тому +1329

    He’s totally right about the Budapest thing, why wasn’t that the movie instead of what we got. Of course it would be weird having most of the main characters have some form of de-aging crap on them (whether that be heavy makeup or cgi), but it would have been so good

    • @BigCookie6903
      @BigCookie6903 3 роки тому +43

      Yeah that's the thing, they lost there chance to do that because they made it too late, and they would have had to make everyone deaged the entire movie

    • @kjbeast677
      @kjbeast677 3 роки тому +14

      I was really disappointed we didn't get to see (in full) what happened in Budapest, that made Black Widow reference it in the first Avengers movie.

    • @rooracleaf561
      @rooracleaf561 3 роки тому +13

      They should do even more references in hawkeye

    • @Mitsuraga
      @Mitsuraga 3 роки тому +6

      Well, considering the story that got told, here, centering the movie on Budapest would have told an incomplete story, and one that had little to nothing to do with the other characters like Yelena. It wouldn't have properly introduced her character, which admittedly was a big part of this movie's point.

    • @pong6377
      @pong6377 3 роки тому +6

      The budapest thing isn't really that exciting. I mean they just planted a bomb and hid.

  • @MrEylios
    @MrEylios 3 роки тому +379

    Didn’t talk about Taskmaster… because Taskmaster wasn’t even a character, which is so very wrong to me. This movie wasted a perfectly good comic villain.

    • @KimbellSlice
      @KimbellSlice 3 роки тому +33

      Taskmaster was way underused, but she is still alive so I imagine she'll be back in future movies!

    • @maismade6013
      @maismade6013 3 роки тому +2

      Well she was a character because she was in the movie.

    • @kayceee6770
      @kayceee6770 3 роки тому +33

      Hope she isn't the real taskmaster but a tm program to replicate the real taskmaster than a microchipped version

    • @jondoh9414
      @jondoh9414 3 роки тому +21

      Taskmaster is pretty much Deadpool in X-men Origins: Wolverine and we all know how terrible that was.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic 3 роки тому +1

      Yooooooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

  • @flipingboredcritic
    @flipingboredcritic 3 роки тому +331

    Honestly I thought this movie would be about how Black Widow and Hawkeye met, and how they escaped Budapest. That would of been a fucking epic movie!

    • @Kappiccino
      @Kappiccino 3 роки тому +15

      You and I both.
      I personally thought that the first part of the movie was going to be about the Red Room and how they trained the girls to become Black Widows then how Natasha was going to meet Clint and joined the Shield/the Budapest mission.
      But unfortunately, this movie was about introducing the new Black Widow...
      But tbh, a movie about Natasha's origins story should have been released a long time ago (like right after her introduction in Iron Man 2), same for Hawkeye and his circus days (there could have been a movie about him right after the first Thor movie because Clint was in it).

  • @pcssfc
    @pcssfc 3 роки тому +657

    I noticed everyone in the movie feels invincible and it’s kinda annoying

    • @disasterpiece4584
      @disasterpiece4584 3 роки тому +99

      Very true, no one gets injured in any way. After yelena destroys the choppers blades towards the end and it explores in her face, there not a scratch on her.

    • @pcssfc
      @pcssfc 3 роки тому +78

      @@disasterpiece4584 or when Natasha falls from the clouds while fighting one of e best marvel fighters and then she fights the us military

    • @toxicblack7827
      @toxicblack7827 3 роки тому +31

      Insert title card

    • @jacksterling9258
      @jacksterling9258 3 роки тому +9

      I mean…that’s Marvel for you

    • @AJFilms14
      @AJFilms14 3 роки тому +25

      It’s fast and furious rules, you guys.

  • @tristianprice4594
    @tristianprice4594 3 роки тому +442

    A huge problem is that Black Widow just feels so "past Marvel." We've gotten used to the crazy, character driven MCU with WandaVision, FATWS and Loki, and this just feels like such a step down.

    • @vanblitz7009
      @vanblitz7009 3 роки тому +41

      Yeah, I think this movie's biggest weakness was everyone's expectations for it.
      Edit: Its definitely far from a bad movie though.

    • @demiliomason1565
      @demiliomason1565 3 роки тому +46

      I'm actually disappointed, not by any of that, but because it wasn't focused on black widow when she was training to be KGB and then working as a Russian spy. I thought we were getting a prequel film.about her backstory, not some boring side mission she did between two of the recent films.

    • @JustMeESM
      @JustMeESM 3 роки тому +4

      @@demiliomason1565 i wanted that story as well, but ever since the movie was announced it was confirmed that wasnt going to be the story they chose so it didnt bother me...

    • @Batman1998-
      @Batman1998- 3 роки тому +3

      Loki is the only good show out of those

    • @vermilingus9018
      @vermilingus9018 3 роки тому +14

      @@Batman1998- Loki is still airing so I can't exactly say for certain it'll stay that way. Wandavision for example was great until it got near the end and left its sitcom gimmick and started having people flying and shit again.

  • @framescantalk6243
    @framescantalk6243 3 роки тому +203

    The action was always putting me off while watching this one. It was defying physics at the levels of fast and the furious. There were numerous moments that should have been fatal, from which the main characters simply stood up and ran.

    • @zunaidparker
      @zunaidparker 3 роки тому +38

      The physics kept fluctuating between Winter Soldier and Iron Man. For that reason, none of the action felt grounded enough or built up a proper sense of danger/threat. I didn't know when to expect characters to get injured or suffer a defeat...no tension as a result.

    • @lorddank1121
      @lorddank1121 3 роки тому +27

      The action in the end of the movie where they were fighting while falling, LMAO.

    • @helenaknobe7830
      @helenaknobe7830 3 роки тому +16

      Yes! It got to the point where I thought that they must've given natasha some sort of version of the superhero serum in the red room, to justify all the hits she could take 😅

    • @framescantalk6243
      @framescantalk6243 3 роки тому +1

      @@zunaidparker exactly

    • @framescantalk6243
      @framescantalk6243 3 роки тому +3

      @@lorddank1121 that was nuts 😂 Natasha even slid down majestically on a falling platform 🤣

  • @therealgingerboy2215
    @therealgingerboy2215 3 роки тому +790

    Gonna be honest, wasn’t hyped for this movie in the first place.

    • @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064
      @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064 3 роки тому +74

      I mean it’s a prequel for a dead character that people don’t really care about
      Disney needs to stop making prequels

    • @alwayssmiling3007
      @alwayssmiling3007 3 роки тому +4

      @@averagetoachievetruefreedo4064 on point

    • @glctcthnkr8059
      @glctcthnkr8059 3 роки тому +50

      I find it hard to be hyped about anything marvel makes anymore tbh

    • @Lucy-fy5bi
      @Lucy-fy5bi 3 роки тому +2

      Nobody asked

    • @RandomElk58
      @RandomElk58 3 роки тому +43

      @@Lucy-fy5bi You don’t have to ask for somebody’s opinion in order for them to share it you know. It’s the internet

  • @Cytron1515
    @Cytron1515 3 роки тому +88

    Florence Pugh's Yelena stole the show. She was my favorite character in the film. I so hope we see more of her in future projects.

    • @CharmedNijntje
      @CharmedNijntje Рік тому +1

      I feel like this was kind of the purpose of the movie. Black widow is dead and they wanted to introduce Yelena so she can be a character in future movies right?

  • @TotallyNotMark
    @TotallyNotMark 3 роки тому +1158

    Exact score I'd give it. Meh.

    • @retrox2776
      @retrox2776 3 роки тому +7

      I agree with that.
      There's no real stakes since we know the protagonists outcome in a previous movie.

    • @VenomTNT
      @VenomTNT 3 роки тому +14

      sup mark

    • @I2oseTheory
      @I2oseTheory 3 роки тому +15

      Haven’t watched it yet but apparently, there’s no One Piece flare or passion at all in this one.

    • @leehang2899
      @leehang2899 3 роки тому

      Mark watch the dumpster fire known as bleach

    • @asura7915
      @asura7915 3 роки тому +8

      @@leehang2899 he will read berserk next

  • @crazymango7068
    @crazymango7068 3 роки тому +128

    Just like the flag smashers, we weren’t showed the “why” for the villains. Why should we care? We saw the flag smashers blow up a building. Ok? What else? We’re told, but nver shows. And same with the flag smashers’ motivation. We were told that they were treated horribly after the blip, but never shown. We don’t care enough to either hate them because of what they do, or root for them because of the injustices against them. The same issues happen with the Widow cell. We are shown them sniping people, we’re told they are deadly. But we aren’t moved or emotionally tied for their liberation, other than being told that they’re being subjugated. We don’t see the struggle, we don’t witness the inhumane things being done to them. We’re just… told. And the two people who have ties to the red room (natasha & yelena) do not give it any worthwhile characterization that would substitute a direct tie to the widow cell. The villain doesn’t seem threatening, because we don’t care enough to want to see his demise either. He gets so little screen time, and we never get to learn his “why”- a titular aspect of a compelling villain. It is a pretty known fact that marvel movies don’t always have the best villains. But after doing things like Thanos and Wanda, the standard of story telling has risen. And Marvel needs to meet and exceed their own standards, if they want to keep their credibility as good storytellers.
    Also: WHERE DID PHEROMONES COME FROM?? YOU CAN’T JUST INTRODUCE RANDOM PLOT LINES WITHOUT SETTING THEM UP PREVIOUSLY??

    • @JustMeESM
      @JustMeESM 3 роки тому +8

      Because we get a sense of all that from Nat, ever since Avengers we see glimpses of her pain and trauma, at least for me it wasnt hard to accept the whole issue. In fact the opening credits scene was enough for me considering what I knew before hand...

    • @CallMeFi
      @CallMeFi 3 роки тому +3

      we've had SO MANY scenes of Nat talking about her horrible past and the horrible people behind it, we know by watching her how skilled and formidable the widows must be but know that wherever she comes from, it is now long gone. To discover that was a lie is a good solid base to kick start Nat solo movie imo. That said, I wish we could have seen more of her training and time in the OG red room - the opening credits were cool, but I wished for a little more

    • @crazymango7068
      @crazymango7068 3 роки тому +5

      @@JustMeESM I just wish the widow cell itself had more characterization. They were such a big part but we don’t see them all that much in the story.

    • @argo9721
      @argo9721 3 роки тому +1

      @@JustMeESM except I really didn't care about that stuff before

    • @maximeteppe7627
      @maximeteppe7627 3 роки тому +3

      I think the movie should have leaned into the tone of the intro, that was the most grounded and effective part of the whole movie.
      Like imagine the reintroduction of Yelena right before she is freed, but filmed in a way that shows she's basically a prisoner in her own body instead of generic spy action filmmaking. Use first person shots, use every trick in the book that communicates altered states of minds - and then show us the aftermath, and to communicate her regaining free will, go back to regular filmmaking to reveal to us the corpse of her liberator.
      That movie had fairly powerful themes, but it was buried in over the top action schlock.

  • @Jonmharper
    @Jonmharper 3 роки тому +466

    I don’t mind the “normal human MCU” because obviously there’s a demographic for it, and I enjoy it when it’s done well as it was in the winter soldier. But they really need to come up with some compelling plots and antagonists. The plot in TFATWS was so convoluted, and Karli was so lame. But if the story mainly took place in madripoor and involved an antagonist there I think it would’ve been way more interesting. As for black widow, it 100% should’ve been the mission in Budapest. They could’ve even kept the opening sequence with the fake family and her sister, and found a way to build up her character in the movie.

    • @Luke101
      @Luke101 3 роки тому +63

      John Walker should have just been the main antagonist, and the conflict of the series is about him abusing the shield and Sam and Bucky realizing he needs to be stopped. Walker was the most compelling character in that series, and every time it cut away from him and focused on the flagsmashers or the stupid Power Broker shit, I was falling asleep.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 3 роки тому +16

      Yelena carried Black Widow the same way John Walker carried TFATWS. The writers are too incompetent that the protagonists are too boring.

    • @ybkid6513
      @ybkid6513 3 роки тому +5

      Also they were like superhumans like that scene where there where in a car that flipped over and kept smashing on the ground into the subway they should have died from that or be paralyzed for the rest of their lives but they jus got up with no blood and just started running again

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic 3 роки тому +1

      Yooooooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT

    • @jankyyard5610
      @jankyyard5610 2 роки тому

      @@mezzb Galaga guy has more charisma than her. He should have been the main villain. It woulf perfectly fit for the suffocating jokey problems of Marvel films.

  • @1ndigo_88
    @1ndigo_88 3 роки тому +382

    I feel like nobody is mentioning how the “heroes” cause an avalanche that most likely killed loads of people. Sure, many of them are criminals since it’s a prison, but STILL. Just give me movies with these characters being heroes instead of only saving the day when it’s a doomsday scenario.

    • @armaan4138
      @armaan4138 3 роки тому +58

      @@TommyVProjects you realise the heroes caused the avalanche, not the bad guys, they purposely left hundreds of prisoners for dead

    • @GumshoeClassic
      @GumshoeClassic 3 роки тому +22

      And it's never brought up again. No consequence. Nothing.

    • @dpope4432
      @dpope4432 3 роки тому +20

      To be fair, none of them are actually "heros." It's completely within character of any of them to kill that many people and not care. Like red guardian said "Your ledgers must dripping red from all the people you killed."

    • @inkygoat4315
      @inkygoat4315 3 роки тому +8

      i feel like in this movie that kind of works. none of the heroes are morally good people, maybe except for Natasha who switched lanes years ago and is still trying to do good by bringing down the Red Room. Even then though, we've seen how she killed Derykov's daughter for collateral, so even her morals aren't always straight. I guess they should have included a moment where Natasha plays the big sister role and criticises Yelena's choice to blow up that tower, but otherwise it weirdly works for me

    • @MorbiusBlueBalls
      @MorbiusBlueBalls 3 роки тому +2

      i use to like black widow until endgame, this movie ruined it. I don't even want this movie to be canon

  • @chester9584
    @chester9584 3 роки тому +60

    The Cosmonaut Variety Hour

  • @burntmoth19
    @burntmoth19 3 роки тому +162

    4:37 Yes! It drove me nuts that they never touched on that. A character that has always wanted to fight Captain America, fights someone that knows all of his moves and the movie doesn't give that moment any significance.

    • @GumshoeClassic
      @GumshoeClassic 3 роки тому +26

      And he just gets slapped around until someone saves him which just feels so cheap. "Oh we can't have someone apart from our protagonist beat the villain" at least let him take a shot at it! Maybe leave a wound! *Something!*

  • @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064
    @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064 3 роки тому +392

    “Obama was president when that came out”
    God that feels like a “do you feel old yet”

    • @themadtitan7603
      @themadtitan7603 3 роки тому +23

      Civil War released in 2016 meaning that Spider-Man has been in the MCU for half a decade... good God time flies.

    • @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064
      @averagetoachievetruefreedo4064 3 роки тому +1

      @@themadtitan7603 dear god

    • @robhiggins7823
      @robhiggins7823 3 роки тому

      Literally said the exact same thing then immediately saw ur comment

    • @LordInosukemp4
      @LordInosukemp4 3 роки тому

      @@themadtitan7603 wow

    • @jaredsilvers2782
      @jaredsilvers2782 3 роки тому

      I mean he was president 5 years ago for Christ sake.

  • @Chaitanya2907
    @Chaitanya2907 3 роки тому +434

    Im surprised the movie wasn’t rated r because of the way they brutally massacred taskmaster.

    • @DarthRakdos0805
      @DarthRakdos0805 3 роки тому +28

      Lol but yeah. I'm a huge fan of Taskmaster and this is what we got in the MCU.

    • @jacobluneberg597
      @jacobluneberg597 3 роки тому +10

      Holy shit i havent seen the movie yet and when i read task master i thought "who THE FUCK was taskmaster supposed to be in the clips he showed????" And i googled it and yeah wow im disappointed whyd they do my boy like that

    • @M53614
      @M53614 3 роки тому +1

      Wait why? I thought task master was really fun in the movie. His fights were exciting

    • @bleacchy
      @bleacchy 3 роки тому +4

      @@M53614 they probably are complaining because he wasnt how he was in the comics

    • @DarthRakdos0805
      @DarthRakdos0805 3 роки тому +13

      @@bleacchy Exactly. We waited a long time for Taskmaster and they butchered him I mean HEr

  • @GumshoeClassic
    @GumshoeClassic 3 роки тому +50

    I was so disappointed by our good ol' russian daddy. He goes on and on about being the one to bring down Captain America but he does next to nothing. His big final fight is just him getting pummelled until someone steps in to help, which just feels like a waste. They set him up as the muscle of the group but he doesn't win a *single* fight.
    And the villians were, once again, really underwhelming. I was excited to see Taskmaster but her powers are underutilised as hell and she doesn't have an agenda of her own. On the other hand, our coldblooded criminal mastermind who manipulates the entire world... is baited into throwing a tantrum in like two sentences?

  • @theolee7936
    @theolee7936 3 роки тому +366

    ive gotten so used to marcus’s criticism to the point where i can guess the score he will give the movie before he does it

    • @sierra5860
      @sierra5860 3 роки тому +8

      I literally guessed correctly before I even watched the video

    • @littledude6669
      @littledude6669 3 роки тому +13

      I was thinking lower cause hes usually more harsh than me and i hated it and would give it like a 3 so I was expecting atleast that or lower

    • @CoolerThanFrieza
      @CoolerThanFrieza 3 роки тому +2

      Ikr

    • @henryalberts539
      @henryalberts539 3 роки тому +5

      @@littledude6669 betcha if/when he does another retrospective it’ll sink

    • @demiliomason1565
      @demiliomason1565 3 роки тому

      Who cares

  • @alejandroortiz4772
    @alejandroortiz4772 3 роки тому +431

    I always saw this movie as sort of a "Victory Lap" for Scarlett. She's probably been doing this just as long as RDJ or Sam Jackson, and Marvel probably wanted to give her one final "farewell' with a movie of her own.
    I thought the movie was fine. Definitely weaker than the shows right now. But it was decent enough and I won't say I hated my time watching it.

    • @babo814
      @babo814 3 роки тому +62

      That’s the only reason it exists it feels like I agree. It feels like Marvel felt like they owed her her own movie after all these years so they just kinda threw one together for her.

    • @KotoCrash
      @KotoCrash 3 роки тому +5

      Im just not interested in watching a victory lap

    • @lewishamilton537
      @lewishamilton537 3 роки тому +9

      this movie was better than falcon & winter soilder and wanda vision imo. i dont think marvek does tv shows that well

    • @dimitrescu182
      @dimitrescu182 3 роки тому +6

      They should have made the movie between Civil War and Infinity War

    • @argo9721
      @argo9721 3 роки тому +8

      @@lewishamilton537 troll?

  • @joshhillmedia
    @joshhillmedia 3 роки тому +58

    its weird I actually liked this film, I thought it was an interesting introduction to her family.

    • @angelfilms4886
      @angelfilms4886 3 роки тому +8

      Nah, it ain't weird that you like this film. Have your own opinion 😁

    • @indigo714
      @indigo714 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, the family dynamic was the best part. All the family are alot more morally compromised and grey than the other Avengers. Natasha was willing to kill an innocent girl in order to kill her target. The Red Guardian had a warped perspective on success where he though sending girls he genuinely like and was attached to sent to the Red Room where they learn to kill countless people. He didn't send them there out of malice or apathy, but because that he though it gave them the best possible future and the mother was suffocating a pig just to show off her science experiment. It was interesting to see how both Natasha and Yelena react to their childhood. Natasha tries to completely reject her past by pointing out how their fake family was just a front for the Russians, while Yelena clings to this past because it was the only time she was happy and not a puppet. I quite like the first 2/3 of the movie. Wasn't a big fan of the finale with Taskmaster and the sexist glasses dude.

    • @genevieveroy780
      @genevieveroy780 3 роки тому

      I guess I get that aspect of it, I just think it was stupid to market it as a black widow movie when it was mostly about the side characters lol, because I def cared more about them than her and it didn’t further her story in any way.

    • @joshhillmedia
      @joshhillmedia 3 роки тому

      @@genevieveroy780 I think they looked at “birds of prey” and how that confused a lot of people went let’s not do that.
      Plus, the sister is the new black widow so it still kinda makes sense

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic 3 роки тому

      Yooooooo if you liked this you should check out my black widow RANT