I think it’s not so much that it fits better, I actually think it takes away something that the dub does better. I can’t find any faults with the dub and the subs va’s never quite seemed right for some situations.
@@SethScapesGaming Yeah... no. You're missing all the subtlety from the subs when you listen to the dubs. The voices "fit" as much as a circle fits in a square hole. It fits but you won't get the edges or fill the entire hole.
Fern is permanently "whisper talking", Frieren sounds like a 45 year old bar cougar trying to sweet-talk, Stark lost all his 16 year old youthfulness from his voice. Anyone watching this with dub looses out on a ton of nuance and tone of the show
Out of all the reaction channels, this is the first one where I see the comment section supporting the dub. I will be the odd one out and say the dub is OK but the original voices are PERFECT. You really hit the nail when you said Frieren was sassy, which she is not in the original voice.
I'm a dub guy myself and watched this dubbed but after watching reactors do the Japanese version, I would say there is no comparison. I went back and watched the sub.
@@kroanosm617 I would go as far as to say that the Frieren in English feels kind of like a different character, as it has some nuances in her voice that are very different than in Japanese, and you could say that since the dub is good, you kind of get two series in one, worth watching both versions in the end.
In the sub Frieten is super old but sounds and acts childish because she is fairly young by elf standards. The dub portrays her more like she's older, wiser, and full of sass. It's not bad, but it loses all of the nuisance of the characterr. Frieren has been around so long but her development as a person stagnats because she spends so much of her life isolated, until Himmels death forces her to reexamine her life and start to mature as a person
I don't usually chime in on the sub vs dub debate but in this case, I think it changes the show a bit. As you pointed out the English V.A. is a bit sassy whereas the Japanese V.A. is more deadpan. With the deadpan delivery you get the sense that Frieren is on the spectrum, or at least has enough trouble with social cues and norms to set her apart from those around her. For me that fits more into the theme of the show than a Frieren who understands and is comfortable with sass, sarcasm, and banter. But that's just my opinion, this is a show I'm sure you'll rewatch on your own time at some point so you could watch the sub then and decide if it affects the story or not for yourselves.
Only read a few volumes of the manga but she definitely leans sassy in it, also I'm on the spectrum and have trouble with social cues and I'm sassy as fuck
It's a mistake to talk about elves by human standards. It would be a mistake to assume that Frieren has autism just because her expressions and reactions seem emotionless. Elfs are a very cool race, and they don't often show their emotions like humans do.
As you start your Frieren dive, just be aware that very little is said or shown that doesn't have a tie-in somewhere else in the episode or series. It's not always a major plot item, but the level of detail is incredible.
Beyond the tone differences between the languages, when you watch the Subbed version first you realize how strange and wordy the English script translations are. When Heiter pats Frieren's head before the last adventure - Original Japanese: "Atama nadenna" (Casual way of saying 'Don't pat my head') Subbed Frieren: "Don't pat my head." Dubbed Frieren: "Thus, my head's still not for patting."
yes, Especially in a story like frieren where big timeskips are common and only significant interactions between characters are shown during meantime means the characters spoken words are really carefully choosen, changing their words as usual as their mannerisms completely changes the dynamic and depth or viewers insights and interpretation of the characters
Frieren is a beautiful show - in the art, the characters, the story. Love that you picked this up to watch. On sub v dub - Frieren (and Himmel to an extent) feels like different characters in both versions and I personally prefer the sub. It was what I imagined her to sound like and be as a character while reading the manga. The translation isn’t bad, the voice actors are also great for the dub but I feel like her voice in Japanese fits the tone of the show far better. Although, you guys go for what you prefer for yourselves and for this channel as reactors. You can watch episode 1 in sub in your own time and see which you would pref to continue with. Either way they’re both great versions.
I'm surprised you guys are discovering this series only now, since it's right up your alley. It's been out for over a year. It came out just a few weeks prior to Delicious in Dungeon, and their screentime overlapped for quite a long time, so it was one of my absolute winter pleasure to watch an episode of Delicious for the quirkiness back to back with Frieren for the feels and the artistry. 2024 winter was such a blessing for fantasy anime lovers. Dub is nice, but sub makes the show truly legendary, as the voices truly match each and any characters. If you don't believe me, try rewatching this episode in sub. And make your own idea what fits you best. You guys are in for a wild (slow) ride ! I'd love to be in your shoes now, and be able to rediscover the series with fresh eyes. Enjoy !
This is the first time I've watched Frieren dubbed. I had seen clips before, but now, seeing how it all ties together, I’m definitely glad I watched the subbed version first. Personally, I’ve watched the first episode a few times, and I always feel the grief of Himmel’s passing, but not this time. In my opinion, the dub is of good quality, but it changes the tone of the show, which, in turn, alters the experience of the show.
Sub, please. I have seen both and lots of phrases lose emotional impact in the dub due to translation. Frieren's personality also shifts a lot. Loved your reaction!
Frieren lived most of her life in a sort of apathy. The english voice, sounds better in my ears, but it shows much more excitement than the original. So it changes her character a fair bit, in the sense that it takes away a bit from her journey
@@SethScapesGaming I feel exactly the opposite. BFor me this excitement and clear intentions is what feels out of place, since her gestures and way of doing things is not matched at all by it. But I guess everyone sees these thing sin their own light. Cheers, mate!
I'd recommend watching the sub in your own time (maybe parallel to when you do the videos). Both the dub and the sub are incredible, but different. It's almost two completely different experiences, and I feel like you both would enjoy both versions.
Just to let you know the English voice actress for Frieren is Mallorie Rodak is known for voicing Elve characters in anime. For example Mushoku Tensei Jobless Reincarnation, Goblin Slayer and here Frieren. She's the best
The English dub for Frieren is really good, which isn’t always a given. However, the sub is absolutely perfect and simply unmatched. Many of the moments and emotions truly come through only in the sub.
I think most characters are great in both. Himmel's sub VA is just absolute perfection though. It's a marvel that the person most known for playing hot-blooded types like Bakugo played maybe the most sublimely gentle voice I've heard in sub Himmel.
@@Palxco I absolutely agree with you. However, I also feel that Frieren and Fern's character traits somehow get lost in the English dub. Additionally, I find Stark's English dub actor quite bothersome, as he makes his character come across as weaker than he actually is.
The dub is great. The sub is great. They did an excellent job casting and adapting the translations. I can bounce back and forth without being jarred. I was pleased that they didn’t water down some of the more poignant or emotional lines like they did in JJK. I will vote to stick to dub because there’s nothing lost story wise and I like watching these videos while I do chores or paperwork 💀
Having watched both dub and sub, they're both a distinct experience, because the voice direction and the translation choices make Frieren's personality slightly different between the dub and sub. Lots of people already talked about what they love about the subs, but I think the dubs give a different quality that worth watching with an open mind that it is going to be a slightly different vibe. It's localized rather than translated, which a lot of purists hate, but I find fascinating. I vote continuing with dub because there's so few dub reactions out there, and I'd lot to see more variety. Might even watch it twice, because it's one of those shows that you notice a lot more things the 2nd time around because of what you know by the end of the show. Lots of subtle details that at face value isn't very significant the first time you watch it until you have a better understanding of what it means. Also another benefit of the dub is you know how a bunch of names are pronounced (unless you speak German, in which case there's 1 character name that's a very mild spoiler if you know German, but otherwise the name are all German words and are aptly picked). Reactors who watch the subs generally mispronounce a lot of the names in the show.
Ohh, you're watching Frieren, makes me very happy when one of my favourite reaction channel reacts to one of my favourite shows! Oh and for the record: I really like the English dub. Pretty much everyone else (except for Blind Wave) watched the sub, so I know both versions well and don't share the sentiment that the sub was superior.
This has been one of the best series I've watched in recent years! I'm glad you're starting to watch it, and I can't wait to watch the rest of your reactions to this masterpiece. As for Sub v. Dub... I prefer the Sub myself as a personal taste, but this show seems to have a good DUB, based on your episode one reaction it hit on all the same places emotionally as it did for me. So keep watching whichever version lets you enjoy the content the most. After all, There is no WRONG way to consume a piece of media so long as you're enjoying yourself.
This is a fantastic show and I think the uniqueness of the premise and how it's executed is what has drawn so much attention. It's so calming and relaxed but somehow never boring.
It's a very good dub but I think jp va Himmel is one of the best voice acting performances of all time. His voice just perfectly fits "supremely confident but gentle hero."
Oh wow, you guys are watching Frieren? I love watching reactions of Frieren breaking people. First tears! Yay! But yeah, seriously this show is beautiful. I started watching anime on Crunchyroll when this started coming out. I was so lucky to have a show like this come out just when I was beginning my deep dive into anime. And yeah, go for the Dub. It makes a change from other reactions.
I've never understood the sub/dub argument for this series. One is objectively just as good as the other. But it's nice to see a comment section not being entirely toxic about it.
I was hyped for the show ever since I knew Evan Call would be doing the score, but I knew it would be something special when it had me crying in 10 minutes.
I literally groaned when I realised you were watching the dub, and then you pointed it out immediately after 🤣 No shade to those that dub, and I'm sure the English VAs did an amazing job, but you GOTTA watch the sub; it's what Himmel the Hero would do.
I'm personally attached with the japanese voices because that's how I watched it, but the english voice acting is really good too! So I say continue like this
What a great surprise! I really hope you'll enjoy this, it's a gorgeous show. And as you already noticed it very much has DnD vibes in the best way possible. Also crying in this show is very normal (at least it was for me). Very often it's not because of sadness. Btw, I realize that you've watched this a while back, but a fun thing about this show is that all the characters' and places' names are German words, that give everything a cool vibe imo. So I'll translate them as they happen :) (if you don't want that, please tell me) Frieren = to be cold/to freeze; Himmel = sky/heaven; Heiter = jolly; Eisen = iron; Fern = far away; Äußerst = at the very end/edge
Not only are they reacting to the English dub but the way they've clearly missed the mark when it comes to a masterpiece like Vinland Saga does not really fill me with confidence that they'll even stick with this show tbh.
I would say rewatch episode 1 in sub and see the difference. Then you could choose what’s best for you; I’m fine with either one. I will say they gave off a bit of a different vibe, but I like the dub and sub in Frieren
I haven't experienced another show that some how crams so much into it. Every episode feels so full and short at the same time because I am enjoying it so much. Excited to see how you guys feel about the show in 6-10 episodes from now
The first 4 episodes were originally aired as a single 2hr movie. As a result, some people find the start of the show to be too slow and take too long to get to the long term plot. I don't expect that to be the case for you two, but just getting out in front of the complaints if I'm wrong. Try to get to at least the end of episode 4 and then there's a slight shift As for Sub vs. Dub, I'm sure you'll get comments in favour of both. I originally watched the dub and enjoyed it. I think both are good and either will work for the reaction. If anything, I think the vast majority of reactors react to the sub, so potentially just for the sake of having a niche for the YT business side then the dub might be better. But ultimately just do whichever you'd prefer
I haven’t seen a single reactor (out of dozens) use the dubbed version of Frieren yet, so I don’t know if that translates to you potentially getting more traffic from using the uncommon dub or less traffic because the dub is wildly unpopular and I just don’t know it. But I’m not a subtitle-only purist; if it’s a show that I really enjoy then I’m usually watching at least once for both sub AND dub. While the sub will have the benefit of the original voice direction the dub can sometimes have more accurate/appropriate translations since subtitles sometimes need to be paraphrased for screen time, so I get the most context out of watching both. Unless a show’s dub is pretty awful, but really dub quality has only improved over the years. IMO as dubs go this one’s pretty good, plus I imagine the overwhelming majority of your audience for this reaction series would have already seen the subtitled show anyway, if not both versions already. - I’d say react to the one you want since I’m here for YOUR take on the show and I’ve already seen both sub/dub multiple times.
Never liked any dub really but after watching this episode with you, I'd be happy to watch it in dub. It's strange how different dub and sub can be. Her personality almost seems different. Very sultry and sassy. In the sub she's more blunt and to the point.
She still seems pretty detatched to me, maybe a bit more sassy occationally where in the sub she is more dead pan but I don't think she is ever what I would call sultry.
I watched the dub, and you are the first reaction I have seen to the dub, but I have watched many sub reactions. I have to split my attention between the reactors and the subtitles, which I didn't have to do here. So thanks.
The dub here is pretty good. But personally, i love the sub. The Japanese voice cast did a truly incredible job. Follow your hearts/best watching experience for yourselves, but I'd recommend trying an episode subbed to see the comparison.
Dub is okay for rewatching. But personally, if it's your first, I'd suggest, highly suggest to go for Sub as it captures the core of Frieren. You want that emotion to tickle your soul. ❤
Not sure but Japanese are obsessed with German words in their fantasy anime. The sword hero is called "Himmel" (heaven), the Priest "Heiter" (being jolly), the dwarf "Eisen" (iron) and she is caller "Frieren" (to freeze), kinda interesting
I love how every single time we start a new anime, the comment section will fight over sub/dub no matter which one we choose. The algorithm goddess feasts tonight.
I haven't seen the dub so I don't have any real opinion yet, but old Himmel completely took me out of it this episode lol. They couldn't get an actual senior to do the voice? It's the same 20-something year old dude doing his best old person impression. It does not sound good lol, very immersion breaking. Frieren's VA is great though
Those are genuinely odd -- but interesting -- observations regarding your take on English Himmel and Frieren. Nobuhiko Okamoto (JP Himmel VA) also voiced Elder Himmel but it felt that _his_ performance playing an older guy seemed less convincing than that of the EN VA. Regarding EN Frieren's VA... idk man, she makes Frieren sound more... well-adjusted? More empathetic? Relates better to others than JP Frieren? Basically, EN Frieren sounds a lot less aloof than JP Frieren. Still an above average performance for an EN dub, but very different from Atsumi Tanezaki's.
@@alcor4670JP VAs just have more range. The same person can believably voice a child, a young adult, and someone older. The same VA can voice a "wimp" and a "Chad".
@@Ryuu44 Generally, yes. But I found it odd that Nobuhiko Okamoto -- the same guy who voiced Bakugo -- gave Elder Himmel a thinner veneer of old-man voice compared to the EN VA's. In any case, I think Himmel's EN VA did well whilst Frieren's EN VA gave her too much emotion. I'd _still_ prefer the sub over the dub, but that's a personal preference.
@@alcor4670 it's of course preference but to me EN old Himmel sounds kinda hurt, his voice is trembling a bit. JP Himmel at all ages sound serene. For me it's like what I'd expect from an enlightened being, like if I talked to a Buddha... Or someone who just smoked a joint and is very relaxed, in harmony with the universe and shit like that.
The dub is generally fine, but frieren herself just doesn't feel the same. Her voice actor just sounds too intentionally badass, when the og is just idk nonchalant. It doesn't sound like much, but in this show every little detail has a huge impact.
I personally think the sub is more fitting, but i like both. Frieren in the sub feels more emotionless or not knowing how the right emotional reaction would be a bit playful and the english dub she seems more sarcastic. Here a little fact for your start into the Series. Every name in the series is a german word and is kind of a explanation about the characters, like: Frieren - feeling cold, a play on her cold emotionless reactions Himmel - Heaven, because a hero is supposed to be in Heaven Eisen - Iron Heiter - beeing in a good mood, the word is also used in Germany if somebody is slightly drunk
People will try to argue the sub or dub is better but just watch which ever you enjoy most. Ive watched both to completion and both are amazing. I swing more towards the dub but thats just my opinion just how people who prefer the sub is their opinion. Its a beautiful story and both languages do it justice so im exited for yall to keep watching it.
Keep watching the dub. Don’t listen to the haters. The dub is amazing. I watched it fully dubbed and had no problems with any of the voices. One of the best dubs out there tbh
Eh I prefer the sub but I'm not opposed to a dub journey, the English actors seem pretty amazing too, it's a different take on Frieren herself though. If you really enjoy Frieren's performance, then dub is probably your best bet since the sub is completely different. Although there is a reason the original is directed differently too so you know... Depends what you value most. I'll follow either way, and honestly I'm curious to hear more dub if you choose that, I've heard a bit of it out of curiosity, but I didn't go very far after checking it out.
Yes, the story is about what happens after the heroes' journey ends, following their victory over the Demon King. It explores life beyond the adventure, what lies ahead after the epic quest is complete. Hence the title, Beyond Journey's End. Frieren is the only anime in a long time that has gotten me excited each week, eagerly waiting for the next episode. Before this, I had been pretty much burned out on anime for many years because I had watched so many of them - probably over 1,000 (I've been watching anime continuously for almost 20 years). This burnout was especially due to most anime following the same repetitive tropes. Even now, with popular anime like My Hero Academia, Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen, Solo Leveling, and Demon Slayer, etc. which many people get hyped about, I can't bring myself to finish them because of how many generic tropes they include. It makes sense, though; why change the formula if it still works and makes money? But for me, I usually can't even get past two or three episodes before I get bored and stop watching. That’s why I’m so happy that Frieren somehow reignited my joy for watching anime.
"Maybe a detect magic or something..." I'd suggest to keep that it mind, as eventually it can result in one hell of a funny punchline! In regards to dub vs sub, while I prefer the sub, I'd say that the maybe rewatching the first episode with the subs would be helpful to compare things, and then you can decide. Regardless, I'm sure you'll have a good time with this show!
I personally haven't seen the dub, and voluntarily, i wouldn't watch things in Dub, so seeing a reaction in dub brings me out of my comfort zone. Also, every reaction to frieren I've seen has been subbed, so it'd be nice to see it differently.
I'm so glad you guys are watching this show. I love it so much! The characters, the music!!! The best way I can describe this show is to imagine if LOTR was about Legolas reconnecting with humanity after learning the rest of the Fellowship has died. Something you should know is that all the names are real German words that give insight into the characters. Frieren means freezing; Himmel means sky or heaven; Heiter means joy; Eisen means iron; Fern means distance.
Sub is better imo but dub is welcomed. It’s a very serene series. It took me a couple tries to adapt to the slowness, but I’m glad I pushed through since this easily became my favorite series of all time. This and Delicious in Dungeon were easily the best 2 anime of 2024.
Sub or Dub is a choice you pick as we all have our own personal taste. Sometimes I pick Dub cause some VA like Chris Sabat as All-Might or Ian Sinclair as the Narrator in Kaguya-sama make the dub so awesome... you gotta see the dub and their version.
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The dub is okay, but Frieren's Japanese VA has a gentleness to her performance that really fits the tone of the show much better.
I think it’s not so much that it fits better, I actually think it takes away something that the dub does better. I can’t find any faults with the dub and the subs va’s never quite seemed right for some situations.
@@SethScapesGaming Yeah... no.
You're missing all the subtlety from the subs when you listen to the dubs. The voices "fit" as much as a circle fits in a square hole. It fits but you won't get the edges or fill the entire hole.
@SethScapesGaming disagree, thats pronably just because you dont know japanese or cant pick up on subtle voice performances they do
@@SethScapesGaming dub is garbage
The dub is fine but the Sub is perfection.
And I normally watch dubbed.
100%
Fern is permanently "whisper talking", Frieren sounds like a 45 year old bar cougar trying to sweet-talk, Stark lost all his 16 year old youthfulness from his voice. Anyone watching this with dub looses out on a ton of nuance and tone of the show
@@neretilderem7029fr idk how anyone could watch dub💀
@@Kinro-y i prfer the dubbed one of the few shows i enjoy better in dubbed
Fine is a little overstating it... the emotional highs aren't reached at all. Frieren's whimsy is completely gone... eh, whatever.
Out of all the reaction channels, this is the first one where I see the comment section supporting the dub. I will be the odd one out and say the dub is OK but the original voices are PERFECT. You really hit the nail when you said Frieren was sassy, which she is not in the original voice.
I agree with this. While not an awful dub, it still can't measure up to the original languages, especially for Fern, Stark, and Himmel, IMO.
I'm a dub guy myself and watched this dubbed but after watching reactors do the Japanese version, I would say there is no comparison.
I went back and watched the sub.
@@kroanosm617 I would go as far as to say that the Frieren in English feels kind of like a different character, as it has some nuances in her voice that are very different than in Japanese, and you could say that since the dub is good, you kind of get two series in one, worth watching both versions in the end.
The dub is good, but some emotional moments are better in the sub.
In the sub Frieten is super old but sounds and acts childish because she is fairly young by elf standards. The dub portrays her more like she's older, wiser, and full of sass. It's not bad, but it loses all of the nuisance of the characterr. Frieren has been around so long but her development as a person stagnats because she spends so much of her life isolated, until Himmels death forces her to reexamine her life and start to mature as a person
I don't usually chime in on the sub vs dub debate but in this case, I think it changes the show a bit. As you pointed out the English V.A. is a bit sassy whereas the Japanese V.A. is more deadpan. With the deadpan delivery you get the sense that Frieren is on the spectrum, or at least has enough trouble with social cues and norms to set her apart from those around her. For me that fits more into the theme of the show than a Frieren who understands and is comfortable with sass, sarcasm, and banter. But that's just my opinion, this is a show I'm sure you'll rewatch on your own time at some point so you could watch the sub then and decide if it affects the story or not for yourselves.
They should just watch the whole show twice before deciding
Subs!!!
Only read a few volumes of the manga but she definitely leans sassy in it, also I'm on the spectrum and have trouble with social cues and I'm sassy as fuck
She’s my autistic queen. I relate so hard to her in sub
It's a mistake to talk about elves by human standards.
It would be a mistake to assume that Frieren
has autism just because her expressions and reactions seem emotionless.
Elfs are a very cool race, and they don't often show their emotions like humans do.
FYI the "pilote" is the first 4 episodes !
As you start your Frieren dive, just be aware that very little is said or shown that doesn't have a tie-in somewhere else in the episode or series. It's not always a major plot item, but the level of detail is incredible.
Madhouse gathered a lot of talented ppl to make this show. They crafted this anime with so much care, each episode is a delight to watch
Beyond the tone differences between the languages, when you watch the Subbed version first you realize how strange and wordy the English script translations are.
When Heiter pats Frieren's head before the last adventure -
Original Japanese: "Atama nadenna" (Casual way of saying 'Don't pat my head')
Subbed Frieren: "Don't pat my head."
Dubbed Frieren: "Thus, my head's still not for patting."
Lol, that sounds like a line you´d see in a (pretty good) Abridged version. Sassy Frieren and all.
yes,
Especially in a story like frieren where big timeskips are common and only significant interactions between characters are shown during meantime means the characters spoken words are really carefully choosen, changing their words as usual as their mannerisms completely changes the dynamic and depth or viewers insights and interpretation of the characters
Its probably because rhey had to sync it with the lip movements.
The Dub isn't bad, but there are so many details just missing that feel better transfered in the Sub.
Dub audio makes you tear up, maybe it these guys who aren’t them for me, not a fan at all, reaction sucks ass
While I still prefer the sub better than the dub, I am still pleasantly surprised by how well the dub works.
I prefer the sub but my computer for some reason refused to play the Japanese audio for a few episodes and I found myself not even minding.
Frieren is a beautiful show - in the art, the characters, the story. Love that you picked this up to watch.
On sub v dub - Frieren (and Himmel to an extent) feels like different characters in both versions and I personally prefer the sub. It was what I imagined her to sound like and be as a character while reading the manga.
The translation isn’t bad, the voice actors are also great for the dub but I feel like her voice in Japanese fits the tone of the show far better.
Although, you guys go for what you prefer for yourselves and for this channel as reactors. You can watch episode 1 in sub in your own time and see which you would pref to continue with. Either way they’re both great versions.
I'm surprised you guys are discovering this series only now, since it's right up your alley. It's been out for over a year. It came out just a few weeks prior to Delicious in Dungeon, and their screentime overlapped for quite a long time, so it was one of my absolute winter pleasure to watch an episode of Delicious for the quirkiness back to back with Frieren for the feels and the artistry.
2024 winter was such a blessing for fantasy anime lovers.
Dub is nice, but sub makes the show truly legendary, as the voices truly match each and any characters.
If you don't believe me, try rewatching this episode in sub. And make your own idea what fits you best.
You guys are in for a wild (slow) ride !
I'd love to be in your shoes now, and be able to rediscover the series with fresh eyes. Enjoy !
This is the first time I've watched Frieren dubbed. I had seen clips before, but now, seeing how it all ties together, I’m definitely glad I watched the subbed version first. Personally, I’ve watched the first episode a few times, and I always feel the grief of Himmel’s passing, but not this time. In my opinion, the dub is of good quality, but it changes the tone of the show, which, in turn, alters the experience of the show.
While the dub is really good, I think the sub captures more of the nuance and occasional childishness Frieren has.
One of my favorite parts about Frieren are the montages. They are animated with as much love as the rest of the episode. Really beautiful stuff
I don't want to dunk on Rings of Power, but that line "This is what I wanted from Rings of Power" is SUCH a common sentiment.
Sub, please. I have seen both and lots of phrases lose emotional impact in the dub due to translation. Frieren's personality also shifts a lot. Loved your reaction!
Frieren lived most of her life in a sort of apathy. The english voice, sounds better in my ears, but it shows much more excitement than the original. So it changes her character a fair bit, in the sense that it takes away a bit from her journey
I don’t feel it takes anything away. If anything it gives some purpose back that makes some of her intentions with the sub version feel out of place.
@@SethScapesGaming I feel exactly the opposite. BFor me this excitement and clear intentions is what feels out of place, since her gestures and way of doing things is not matched at all by it. But I guess everyone sees these thing sin their own light. Cheers, mate!
I'd recommend watching the sub in your own time (maybe parallel to when you do the videos). Both the dub and the sub are incredible, but different. It's almost two completely different experiences, and I feel like you both would enjoy both versions.
Just to let you know the English voice actress for Frieren is Mallorie Rodak is known for voicing Elve characters in anime. For example Mushoku Tensei Jobless Reincarnation, Goblin Slayer and here Frieren. She's the best
Yes, I think they did a very good job on the English language version. It's a great show.
Retry it in the sub version and go with what you prefer. The original voices are incredible though
The English dub for Frieren is really good, which isn’t always a given. However, the sub is absolutely perfect and simply unmatched. Many of the moments and emotions truly come through only in the sub.
I think most characters are great in both. Himmel's sub VA is just absolute perfection though. It's a marvel that the person most known for playing hot-blooded types like Bakugo played maybe the most sublimely gentle voice I've heard in sub Himmel.
@@Palxco I absolutely agree with you. However, I also feel that Frieren and Fern's character traits somehow get lost in the English dub. Additionally, I find Stark's English dub actor quite bothersome, as he makes his character come across as weaker than he actually is.
The dub is great. The sub is great. They did an excellent job casting and adapting the translations. I can bounce back and forth without being jarred. I was pleased that they didn’t water down some of the more poignant or emotional lines like they did in JJK. I will vote to stick to dub because there’s nothing lost story wise and I like watching these videos while I do chores or paperwork 💀
The sub is perfect but the dub is still pretty good
Happy New Year Clarus and Nerdy🎉🎉
Having watched both dub and sub, they're both a distinct experience, because the voice direction and the translation choices make Frieren's personality slightly different between the dub and sub. Lots of people already talked about what they love about the subs, but I think the dubs give a different quality that worth watching with an open mind that it is going to be a slightly different vibe. It's localized rather than translated, which a lot of purists hate, but I find fascinating.
I vote continuing with dub because there's so few dub reactions out there, and I'd lot to see more variety. Might even watch it twice, because it's one of those shows that you notice a lot more things the 2nd time around because of what you know by the end of the show. Lots of subtle details that at face value isn't very significant the first time you watch it until you have a better understanding of what it means.
Also another benefit of the dub is you know how a bunch of names are pronounced (unless you speak German, in which case there's 1 character name that's a very mild spoiler if you know German, but otherwise the name are all German words and are aptly picked). Reactors who watch the subs generally mispronounce a lot of the names in the show.
The dub of this is actually excellent. Would recommend dub
Ohh, you're watching Frieren, makes me very happy when one of my favourite reaction channel reacts to one of my favourite shows!
Oh and for the record: I really like the English dub. Pretty much everyone else (except for Blind Wave) watched the sub, so I know both versions well and don't share the sentiment that the sub was superior.
英語吹替、はじめて見ましたが、うん、まあ、悪くないかもね。悪くはないね。集中して、楽しんで見れるなら、好きな方で良いと思いますよ。
i personally love the voice for the dub frieren
This has been one of the best series I've watched in recent years! I'm glad you're starting to watch it, and I can't wait to watch the rest of your reactions to this masterpiece.
As for Sub v. Dub... I prefer the Sub myself as a personal taste, but this show seems to have a good DUB, based on your episode one reaction it hit on all the same places emotionally as it did for me.
So keep watching whichever version lets you enjoy the content the most.
After all, There is no WRONG way to consume a piece of media so long as you're enjoying yourself.
This is a fantastic show and I think the uniqueness of the premise and how it's executed is what has drawn so much attention. It's so calming and relaxed but somehow never boring.
Love the dub but the sub for Frieren and Fern are literally perfection
One day we may see the ten previous seasons of each of those years of adventure, for now we may enjoy this "sequel".
times are tough. Nerdy grew hair and they moved back to their old place.
keep the dub
It's a very good dub but I think jp va Himmel is one of the best voice acting performances of all time. His voice just perfectly fits "supremely confident but gentle hero."
One of the best written stories!
Oh wow, you guys are watching Frieren? I love watching reactions of Frieren breaking people. First tears! Yay!
But yeah, seriously this show is beautiful. I started watching anime on Crunchyroll when this started coming out. I was so lucky to have a show like this come out just when I was beginning my deep dive into anime.
And yeah, go for the Dub. It makes a change from other reactions.
While the dub is definitely good, there's a lot lost even just in this first episode of subtleties they failed to capture.
I've never understood the sub/dub argument for this series. One is objectively just as good as the other. But it's nice to see a comment section not being entirely toxic about it.
Also, each combat is intended to give much more than excitement for action: each one will widen the world's lore and the character's development.
Mimics are a combination of catnip and Kryptonite to Frieren.
I've been hoping you'd pick up this one for a while. Glad to see you're enjoying it!
"like a space elf?"
40k fans: "NOONONONONONO!"
I was hyped for the show ever since I knew Evan Call would be doing the score, but I knew it would be something special when it had me crying in 10 minutes.
I don’t see a problem with you watching the dub. It’s well done. Do what you’ll best enjoy.
I literally groaned when I realised you were watching the dub, and then you pointed it out immediately after 🤣 No shade to those that dub, and I'm sure the English VAs did an amazing job, but you GOTTA watch the sub; it's what Himmel the Hero would do.
Elves are functionally immortal as long as they aren't killed they will continue to live on indefinitely.
I'm personally attached with the japanese voices because that's how I watched it, but the english voice acting is really good too!
So I say continue like this
What a great surprise! I really hope you'll enjoy this, it's a gorgeous show. And as you already noticed it very much has DnD vibes in the best way possible.
Also crying in this show is very normal (at least it was for me). Very often it's not because of sadness.
Btw, I realize that you've watched this a while back, but a fun thing about this show is that all the characters' and places' names are German words, that give everything a cool vibe imo. So I'll translate them as they happen :) (if you don't want that, please tell me)
Frieren = to be cold/to freeze; Himmel = sky/heaven; Heiter = jolly; Eisen = iron; Fern = far away; Äußerst = at the very end/edge
You're the perfect reactors for this series.
For me the dub doesn't hit as hard as the sub, but maybe im just not used to it.
Not only are they reacting to the English dub but the way they've clearly missed the mark when it comes to a masterpiece like Vinland Saga does not really fill me with confidence that they'll even stick with this show tbh.
I would say rewatch episode 1 in sub and see the difference. Then you could choose what’s best for you; I’m fine with either one. I will say they gave off a bit of a different vibe, but I like the dub and sub in Frieren
I haven't experienced another show that some how crams so much into it. Every episode feels so full and short at the same time because I am enjoying it so much. Excited to see how you guys feel about the show in 6-10 episodes from now
The first 4 episodes were originally aired as a single 2hr movie. As a result, some people find the start of the show to be too slow and take too long to get to the long term plot. I don't expect that to be the case for you two, but just getting out in front of the complaints if I'm wrong. Try to get to at least the end of episode 4 and then there's a slight shift
As for Sub vs. Dub, I'm sure you'll get comments in favour of both. I originally watched the dub and enjoyed it. I think both are good and either will work for the reaction. If anything, I think the vast majority of reactors react to the sub, so potentially just for the sake of having a niche for the YT business side then the dub might be better. But ultimately just do whichever you'd prefer
Welcome to Frieren 🤗
Thank you for sharing 😊
You will see a limited number of combats in this show, but each one will take your breath away
I hope you stick to the dub. Every channel reacting to this show reacts to the sub, so listening to someone react to the dub is a breath of fresh air.
I haven’t seen a single reactor (out of dozens) use the dubbed version of Frieren yet, so I don’t know if that translates to you potentially getting more traffic from using the uncommon dub or less traffic because the dub is wildly unpopular and I just don’t know it.
But I’m not a subtitle-only purist; if it’s a show that I really enjoy then I’m usually watching at least once for both sub AND dub. While the sub will have the benefit of the original voice direction the dub can sometimes have more accurate/appropriate translations since subtitles sometimes need to be paraphrased for screen time, so I get the most context out of watching both. Unless a show’s dub is pretty awful, but really dub quality has only improved over the years.
IMO as dubs go this one’s pretty good, plus I imagine the overwhelming majority of your audience for this reaction series would have already seen the subtitled show anyway, if not both versions already. - I’d say react to the one you want since I’m here for YOUR take on the show and I’ve already seen both sub/dub multiple times.
Never liked any dub really but after watching this episode with you, I'd be happy to watch it in dub. It's strange how different dub and sub can be. Her personality almost seems different. Very sultry and sassy. In the sub she's more blunt and to the point.
She still seems pretty detatched to me, maybe a bit more sassy occationally where in the sub she is more dead pan but I don't think she is ever what I would call sultry.
I watched the dub, and you are the first reaction I have seen to the dub, but I have watched many sub reactions. I have to split my attention between the reactors and the subtitles, which I didn't have to do here. So thanks.
Is that's a sindarin tattoo I see on your arm? If so, then the parallels with some themes in LOTR will not be lost on you indeed.
Its great how everyone can say sub is way better than dubtitles without hurting their precious feelings.
I'm always a huge fan of the fire emblem priests. Love leveling them up to a bishop.
The dub here is pretty good. But personally, i love the sub. The Japanese voice cast did a truly incredible job. Follow your hearts/best watching experience for yourselves, but I'd recommend trying an episode subbed to see the comparison.
Dub is okay for rewatching. But personally, if it's your first, I'd suggest, highly suggest to go for Sub as it captures the core of Frieren. You want that emotion to tickle your soul. ❤
Not sure but Japanese are obsessed with German words in their fantasy anime. The sword hero is called "Himmel" (heaven), the Priest "Heiter" (being jolly), the dwarf "Eisen" (iron) and she is caller "Frieren" (to freeze), kinda interesting
I love how every single time we start a new anime, the comment section will fight over sub/dub no matter which one we choose. The algorithm goddess feasts tonight.
finally react to this great anime, thank you
I advise you to react to the original language since Frieren loses its essence with the dubbing
Continuity error: Nerdy has hair!
Love me the dub, they've been getting better as the years have gone on. Frieren and Dandadan both have excellent dubs
I haven't seen the dub so I don't have any real opinion yet, but old Himmel completely took me out of it this episode lol. They couldn't get an actual senior to do the voice? It's the same 20-something year old dude doing his best old person impression. It does not sound good lol, very immersion breaking. Frieren's VA is great though
Those are genuinely odd -- but interesting -- observations regarding your take on English Himmel and Frieren. Nobuhiko Okamoto (JP Himmel VA) also voiced Elder Himmel but it felt that _his_ performance playing an older guy seemed less convincing than that of the EN VA.
Regarding EN Frieren's VA... idk man, she makes Frieren sound more... well-adjusted? More empathetic? Relates better to others than JP Frieren? Basically, EN Frieren sounds a lot less aloof than JP Frieren. Still an above average performance for an EN dub, but very different from Atsumi Tanezaki's.
@@alcor4670JP VAs just have more range. The same person can believably voice a child, a young adult, and someone older. The same VA can voice a "wimp" and a "Chad".
@@Ryuu44 Generally, yes. But I found it odd that Nobuhiko Okamoto -- the same guy who voiced Bakugo -- gave Elder Himmel a thinner veneer of old-man voice compared to the EN VA's.
In any case, I think Himmel's EN VA did well whilst Frieren's EN VA gave her too much emotion. I'd _still_ prefer the sub over the dub, but that's a personal preference.
@@alcor4670 it's of course preference but to me EN old Himmel sounds kinda hurt, his voice is trembling a bit. JP Himmel at all ages sound serene. For me it's like what I'd expect from an enlightened being, like if I talked to a Buddha... Or someone who just smoked a joint and is very relaxed, in harmony with the universe and shit like that.
The dub is generally fine, but frieren herself just doesn't feel the same.
Her voice actor just sounds too intentionally badass, when the og is just idk nonchalant.
It doesn't sound like much, but in this show every little detail has a huge impact.
I personally think the sub is more fitting, but i like both. Frieren in the sub feels more emotionless or not knowing how the right emotional reaction would be a bit playful and the english dub she seems more sarcastic.
Here a little fact for your start into the Series. Every name in the series is a german word and is kind of a explanation about the characters, like:
Frieren - feeling cold, a play on her cold emotionless reactions
Himmel - Heaven, because a hero is supposed to be in Heaven
Eisen - Iron
Heiter - beeing in a good mood, the word is also used in Germany if somebody is slightly drunk
People will try to argue the sub or dub is better but just watch which ever you enjoy most. Ive watched both to completion and both are amazing. I swing more towards the dub but thats just my opinion just how people who prefer the sub is their opinion. Its a beautiful story and both languages do it justice so im exited for yall to keep watching it.
Both the dub and the sub are great. Y'all watch how you want.
Got recommended this video, got excited, heard dub, clicked away
Keep watching the dub. Don’t listen to the haters. The dub is amazing. I watched it fully dubbed and had no problems with any of the voices. One of the best dubs out there tbh
As a german I watched sub and dub and also english dub, and the english Frieren feels like a different person. Not bad, just different.
Eh I prefer the sub but I'm not opposed to a dub journey, the English actors seem pretty amazing too, it's a different take on Frieren herself though. If you really enjoy Frieren's performance, then dub is probably your best bet since the sub is completely different. Although there is a reason the original is directed differently too so you know... Depends what you value most. I'll follow either way, and honestly I'm curious to hear more dub if you choose that, I've heard a bit of it out of curiosity, but I didn't go very far after checking it out.
I say rewatch Ep 1 in sub then continue in sub for all of the show. You really get the impact of the storytelling with the original voice cast.
Yes, the story is about what happens after the heroes' journey ends, following their victory over the Demon King. It explores life beyond the adventure, what lies ahead after the epic quest is complete. Hence the title, Beyond Journey's End.
Frieren is the only anime in a long time that has gotten me excited each week, eagerly waiting for the next episode. Before this, I had been pretty much burned out on anime for many years because I had watched so many of them - probably over 1,000 (I've been watching anime continuously for almost 20 years). This burnout was especially due to most anime following the same repetitive tropes.
Even now, with popular anime like My Hero Academia, Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen, Solo Leveling, and Demon Slayer, etc. which many people get hyped about, I can't bring myself to finish them because of how many generic tropes they include. It makes sense, though; why change the formula if it still works and makes money? But for me, I usually can't even get past two or three episodes before I get bored and stop watching.
That’s why I’m so happy that Frieren somehow reignited my joy for watching anime.
Im just one of many, but I prefer when people watch this show in the dub. Specifically for some of the moments later in the show.
"Maybe a detect magic or something..." I'd suggest to keep that it mind, as eventually it can result in one hell of a funny punchline!
In regards to dub vs sub, while I prefer the sub, I'd say that the maybe rewatching the first episode with the subs would be helpful to compare things, and then you can decide. Regardless, I'm sure you'll have a good time with this show!
Watch it in original sound with subtitles. Its 100 percent better. Thats why u get so few likes.🤔
All other things equal, I expect the dub would give more opportunities in the reaction edit
A modern mimic would be an Amazon delivery box
I personally haven't seen the dub, and voluntarily, i wouldn't watch things in Dub, so seeing a reaction in dub brings me out of my comfort zone. Also, every reaction to frieren I've seen has been subbed, so it'd be nice to see it differently.
What dub english? change to original dub with subtile 🙃
Omg my favorite anime of all time, I’m SO stoked y’all are doing this one. Guess it’s time to finally hit the subscribe button 🥰
Next episode 2
YEEEEEEES! I love this show, so glad to see you two give it a shot as well
Dub team!!!!! Let’s go!!!!!
I've watched the sub and then went back and watched the dub - I rarely do that for a series. It's good in both.
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Are you prepared for another "mere" ten year journey? 😁
I'm so glad you guys are watching this show. I love it so much! The characters, the music!!! The best way I can describe this show is to imagine if LOTR was about Legolas reconnecting with humanity after learning the rest of the Fellowship has died. Something you should know is that all the names are real German words that give insight into the characters. Frieren means freezing; Himmel means sky or heaven; Heiter means joy; Eisen means iron; Fern means distance.
Sub is better imo but dub is welcomed. It’s a very serene series. It took me a couple tries to adapt to the slowness, but I’m glad I pushed through since this easily became my favorite series of all time.
This and Delicious in Dungeon were easily the best 2 anime of 2024.
Sub or Dub is a choice you pick as we all have our own personal taste.
Sometimes I pick Dub cause some VA like Chris Sabat as All-Might or Ian Sinclair as the Narrator in Kaguya-sama make the dub so awesome... you gotta see the dub and their version.