WoW Classic Race Picking Guide - Horde Part 2
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- My Conclusion of the Horde race picking guide. In this part, I cover the remaining classes and share my personal lists for each one.
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Conclusion of the Horde race guide. This will be the comment I edit if I made any major blunders. See part 1 here: ua-cam.com/video/wnZQzO9h-ek/v-deo.html
Edit: I promised I would update if the tauren hidden range racial made it in...and it did! clips.twitch.tv/DeadTiredHareOhMyDog
do u not post on the other channel anymore
@@funwithflags7506 I have a lot of the script written for the videos actually. Just been busy with the WoW channel so it's been on the backburner. I will return to it some day though.
Tauren Endurance racial is a joke for pvp especially considering execute or hammer of wrath type abilities.
Damn, I hate you MadSeason, always bringing tears to my face with those FFX and Chrono Trigger musics
@@madseasonshow Nice videos, the only things that come to my mind that you left out are these two: The Troll's Beast Slaying is actually useful in pvp againt shapeshifted druids, because they are beasts, and the second is that Devouring Plague is overrated because priest and paladins can cleanse it easily which is a huge mana waste for the undead priest. Anyway nice touch on the Taruen melee range stuff, it is something that people usually forget to mention. I liked that you talked about the Gnome and Tauren sizes as well, I never really thought about that it can be an advantage or disadvantage so it was helpful.
"What race should I play?"
Madseason: "25% Stun resistance"
MadSeasonShow videos are the only way I survive the hype for Classic Wow
They're a way for me to deal with the hype also actually(hence all of the Classic related videos recently) =]
seriously
me to, #madseasonshowclassicvids
thank you for expressing my exact thoughts for me
Lol. Yep
Why do you apologize for making lengthy video's? I find them very enjoyable! I listen to these while working throughout the day so it keeps me entertained and informed.
SuperFastJellyFish exactly the same
Lengthy videos only get annoying when there's no real content.
Clearly, Tauren is the best race for Rogues. They're so good at stealth that they're invisible from the character creation screen!
"Captain Demozan feels the heavy breathing of a Tauren behind his neck; he quickly turns around and sees nothing but a piece of paper on the ground; the paper says 'Byron was here' "
+ if you paint your hooves red your invisible in strawberry fields ^.^
Have you ever seen a tauren rogue? No? Well that just tells you how good they are at stealth!
Weaboo
Fun fact: tauren rogues do literally exist! In Stonetalon post-Cata you can find Grimtotem NPCs using rogue abilities and even rogue energy! And in the events of the Sundering novel, many Grimtotem defected to the Horde. Additionally, Outlaw is a pirate themed spec more or less, and many pirate NPCs are tauren.
Thank you for including shaman tank!!
I was a shaman tank for 10man heroic ICC for my progression guild. Rockbiter ftw
My vanilla allegiance leader was an enhancement shaman tank... I was forced into healing and could only dream about switching to elemental until after burning crusade, I was finally able to achieve my dream but felt stronger for having the healing experience ^_^
Thank you for covering tank shaman!
Not many people knew it was a thing and even some that did don't seem to acknowledge it.
Sure they wont be main tanking raids, but let's be honest, neither will druids or paladins.
The small 10/15 they can in the right hands and comps. But yea in most cases off tanks. Pallies were good for scholo and baron strath runs
I was an enhance shaman off tank in raids. Was not the best but i was an orc and after some pvp gear i would main tank 5 mans.
@@tylersmall634 there were no 15 man raids lol
@@highrish8045 the spires were 15man in early vanilia and scholo strat were 10man before they were nerfed to only require 10 and 5
@@tylersmall634 early on yes but wow classic wont be starting in the earlier patches and i have yet to see a pre 1.12 classic private server
Short video idea: Night Elf vs Tauren for Best Druid Race
Long video idea: Best Races for Each Class (Horde and Alliance)
Great video series so far, getting pumped for Classic!
yes MadSeason I think you need to pick the top class for all 8 races
As I main Alliance on retail, I think I'll be sticking more to the Horde on Classic to switch things up.
Glad to see the Shaman stuff! It cemented my Tauren pick.
Troll priests have a cool shadow orb on them , they win
I agree 😁, that was one of the reason I rolled with troll, perrmanent orb of darkness ftw.
Shit, you're right.
I really liked the vibe of having the Darkest Dungeon music for the undead priest part... so fitting, the music is just creepy.
Haven't played WoW for around 10 years now.
Your channel is a good fix until WoW classic comes out, great content overall!!
Remember that Undead Priests racial priest spell Touch of Weakness also does damage!
This means if you have the blackout talent you have a 10% chance to stun melee attackers when they go on you
I get so relaxed when I watch your videos . 😊👍
It's worth noting that Tauren size increase reduces the Hunter deadzone, to the point it's difficult to abuse in PvP
Isnt the dead zone 6-7 feet (5 is normal meelee 8 is gun range)?
If so id be suprised if there even is a dead zone with them
The Hamlet track from Darkest Dungeon, insanely good choice
ahhhh, the beautiful, nostalgic DKC music in the background was a nice addition
Thank you so Much :) Confirmed my choice for a Shaman Heal Troll. So hyped ! I joined WoW at the beginning of BC and that version had so many similarities with Vanilla compared to the current BFA that I hope I will find kind of the same experience I had.
Appreciate the in-depth discussion, perhaps have timestamps for all classes on another video like this. Ty
Touch of Weakness for UD priests can also proc blackout since it does a small amount of shadow damage when an attacker hits you. Also something you could add as an UD shadow priest to make your devouring plague much more efficient is only using it with inner focus. It of course won't get the added 25% chance to crit, but it will make a very mana consuming spell free! Plus they are both 3min CDs so you can have a free Devouring Plague all the time!! Power to the Forsaken!! Great vid man!
yea i pretty much only use DP with IF, makes it much more manageable.
That intro makes me smile every time. You make some awesome vids man
I can't remember if I have commented this on a prior video or not, but I love that you use the music from the old school Donkey Kong Country games as the background in so many of your videos. It just doubles the nostalgia your videos stir in me
As someone who joined during Mists of Pandaria, I really appreciate your well-considered info!
Madseason makes the most entertaining wow videos on UA-cam. Supremely hilarious on most videos
Yessssss the Shammy tank. I'm so excited to try this out. Enhance shammy seems so gutted in retail but back in LK, Enhance Shammy was my absolute favorite thing to play.
You can definitely do a lot of 5 mans with a decent healer. You won't ever be doing raids, unless you're in a very casual guild, or you're doing old content that your guild has progressed past. But hey, the game really was about playing it the way you wanted to back then. Classes were really diverse and had a lot of unapparent potential. Now they're all watered down and everyone has an ability for everything.
@@chrisseger2346 Oh I have no real aspirations for raiding. I can't no life the game like I did 10 years ago. I just got excited for a minute.
Awesome guide-series! Thank you.
Back in vanilla I was just a kid that could barely speak any english, but I did play quite a lot of WoW (like a chicken without a head I reckon, lol. At least for the first period of time). I started out making an orc shaman that I leveled to 60. However over time I got very jealous of taurens. The extra HP, the cool feeling of playing a big buff character (lol yeah it's primitive, but that's how I felt) and of cause... the war stomp! It got so bad that I made a new shaman, this time a tauren. Taking the leveling time back in vanilla into consideration people thought I was crazy. Though it was my main in the many years to come with WoW and I never regretted that decision. War stomp is so good for PvP. I also raided, but only to get better gear for PvP, lol. It was my great passion. I loved the big WF procs, so when the option to dual wield was added later into vanilla for shamans it was with mixed feelings for me. It was better to DW in regards to dps, but it just didn't have the same "lol, did you see that? That kid just got deleted!"-effect on me.
Okay, back to choice of race. Shamans ate spell casters for lunch back in vanilla (and still does?). Especially in regards to offensive spells with casting time, like a shadow bolt. Normally I would rotate earth shock (spell interrupt) --> grounding totem (spell absorb) --> earth shock (since ES had like a 6s CD). However as tauren you could expand that rotation to ES --> GT --> ES --> War stomp --> ES. Of cause PvP is very dynamic and this example is over simplified, but man I gave those spell casters a hard time (at least in my own memories ;D ). Doing this rotation while spamming purge (removing all their magic buffs, such as shields and hots) basically killed the spell casters before they could do much. If you wanted to go full a**hole you got the tidal charm trinket (instant 3s stun) and went engineering for thorium grenades (skill shot based item that "repentance" the target for 3s aka another interrupt) and added those to your cycle. It was pretty GG for casters at that stage.
The point is that war stomp fits the shaman kit very well for PvP. It's also very nice if you need to buy extra time for team members or get a "free" spell off yourself. I remember being quite disappointed with orc''s stun resist... but maybe it was way better than I felt back then. However I'm quite convinced I would go tauren again if I pick shaman for classic.
Wow is such a deep game haha. So many variables. Good video.
Ok about the Tauren "tank" I know almost 99 % of the people laugh at that. Back in vanilla I had Tauren Shammy and I had similar build, I did sort of experiment, most people laughed at me when they saw my talents until they dueled me. In almost every case I defeated them especially against warriors and rogues. First they said I was lucky, then 2nd duel - same result, 3rd duel - same result. People were just "WTF how this noob can even survive that long". That war stomp saved my skin against rogues so many times I lost count. With that extra 5 % health in vanilla it was a huge deal and that shield with the Stoneskin Totem gave a lot of armor against melee attacks. For me personally the rogues were the greatest challenge to beat, but with this kind of hybrid build increased my success rate with probably 50 % than otherwise. It really depended what class you are against. It was almost impossible (unless you are max geared) to be better against every class. Every class had different tactics to use if you are fighting against it, so I usually changed items and used different spells against different classes (which most people didn't bother to do). It was so bizarre when I posted somewhere in forums that I started making screenshots every time when I was dueling or doing PvP to show people because nobody believed otherwise, then they were like "OMG how is this possible" and in many cases I fought against higher level players (I was 55 and even fought 59-60 lvl and won). I think I still have the screenshots I have to check my old stuff, it will be nice throwback to see them again. I have to check also the talents I used, maybe I will try it again when Classic is released.
My point is just because something looks weird, even funny by the mainstream opinion, doesn't mean it's bad. If you haven't tried it, how do you know it's bad choice? Back then also many builds required some practice, so at first it will seem off and hard, but when you get used to it is the opposite.
I think there was very good case with a warrior ( I don't remember if it was the beta or after patch 1.0) because the warriors were considered as the worst PvP class, but this guy kept going and proved that it was actually OP and then Blizz patched it out later. So yeah, sometimes even the weirdest thing can be a thing if you know what you are doing and mastered it. That was the beautiful thing about Vanilla, the whole point was to master the way you like to play the game and stick with it. If you use a common build but have no idea or interest to know how to use your abilities, no matter how good the build is, you will still be mediocre in the best case. Can't wait for the Classic.
I wish you could bookmark comments.
I'm Enh Shammy 4 life so will defo try this.
I really appreciate your videos man, your video style is one of a kind and I love it.
I absolutely love all the awesome Donkey Kong and Zelda music you add in your videos. Especially in your Nostalgia series. Honestly that is currently my favorite series of videos about WoW on the internet.
Thanks for the video. Was really stuck on what race to choose for my Druid.
Yay! For the horde!
Enjoy!
You know, I didn't like your voice at first, but now it's kind of grown on me. It's soothing in its monotony.
My favorite priest quote-
Some priest heal
Others enhance
I however, melt faces.
you're the first youtuber im hitting the like button everytime without considering it, because i really do know that every video is some kind of its own. I do love your quality. And im willing to support you via patreon without anything in return.
Good work should be appreciated. Thats just all what i do now. I don't even play wow anymore, but your content keeps me fascinated.
I remember tanking Dire maul with my shaman back in the day. Thanks for these videos. They bring back a lot of memories.
you could compare tauren druid vs night elf druid
Night Elf wins by far. Better stealth for PvP and + dodge for tanking.
Been on an orc warlock main for the past 2 years even into TBC and it's good fun.
Another well made, informative video! Nice job. :D
Also, Tauren best in all druid roles? How controversial. You're a brave man. :P
Alis E I wish he’d compare both druids, since there are only two in game... I mean... give us druids something to think about at least.
Mate, I really love these videos. You've got a very calming voice. I started playing WoW in vanilla and these videos have a fair bit of nostalgia for me. Looking forward to classic.
There's a simple rule in vanilla, if your class can be Orc, roll Orc (for PvP focus). Stun is the most OP effect in classic PvP, and being randomly 25% resistant to it means you have a 25% chance to wreck a lot of classes that rely on their important stun moves.
For example, a Rogue vs Warrior, can be 50-50, but against an Orc Warrior, it's like 25-75. Or Rogue vs Hunter, Orc Hunter wins 90%. It's game breaking racial against classes that rely on stun.
I really didn't think about it much when I was on my orc warlock back in the day. But the number of times I must have not even noticed resisting a rogue's cheap shot, reflexively death coiling, fearing, and dotting them up until they were dead must have been some real bullshit.
Nice song selection
I think it's important to note that you can use Inner Focus to make Devouring Plague free. This can be huge in PvP!
I made a troll priest in Vanilla when my guild was short on healers (she's still my main to this day). In doing so, I fell in love with healing, and with trolls. My reason, however, for choosing troll over undead...I didn't want to be an ugly undead, I thought trolls were much more attractive (yes, you have full permission to laugh at that reasoning and call me a typical female). I will say tho, I have very much enjoyed playing a troll priest for the past 14 years, I can't imagine myself maining another toon.
a girl who plays a priest, typical ha ha ha
Nah i know what you meant but for me it was a troll hunter vs an orc hunter...lets see a wolf or a freaking dino
I played troll shaman for the cool break dance they have lol and I like the way they go knee and look around there animation is much more cooler then others
@@krandlerplays6594
Are you a dose of Crippling Poison? Because you strike me as both slow and toxic...
Boom, roasted.
@@krandlerplays6594 The funny thing is she'd own you.
The moment I heard Classic was going to be released, I instantly said "TAUREN WARRIOR! LET'S GO! Prot. Warrior with some big beef!"
"Farewell for now mortals" I love it! So classy. Great vid!
“What race should I play?” Madseason:“Zug Zug”
MadSeasonShow?
GladSeasonShow!
RadSeasonShow?
13:22
That... That made my day. Thank you.
Love the Donkey Kong country 2 music in all your vids!
another thing some people dont mention, is that because all races move at the same speed, and because tauren are so much bigger, their stride animation is slower and so it seems like they move slower. My first character was a tauren, after making a gnome for fun i felt like i was zooming across the map. Going back to tauren after that felt like i was moving at a snails pace.
13:49 A huge nostalgia trip afflicted me when I heard this song, DKC 2 for life!
I want to demand more videos from you but I know these take time and get more difficult as time goes on.
It’s pretty cool to see your channel go from a random clip to show up in my feed to being a well known and awaited creator.
Am I the only one who thinks that Shamans should have had race specific spells too? Shaman is based off of the Warcraft 3 Orc shaman units more than the Troll Witch Doctor and Shadow Hunter and the Tauren Spirit Walker.
That would have been cool. Farseer, Spirit Walker, and Shadow Hunter for orcs, tauren, and trolls.
would have been cool that , probably give bloodlust (group based) for orcs, Voodoo ritual (witch doctor ultimate from wc3) for trolls and spirit link (spirit walker tauren unit skill from wc3)
@@DrPluton Yes, Shaman kind of felt unfinished in my eyes.
Just imagine:
Trolls having Hex
Orcs having bloodlust
Spirit Walkers having Spirit link
+ every race should have it's own totems. So Troll gets the serpent ward and stasis trap which acts as a trap totem similar to a hunters frost trap from
Orc and Tauren get their own totems too.
Then i guess they had to do the same for paladins
I have always wanted that. Warcraft 3 forever btw :)
The beauty of this is that racials are pretty much all there is. The ability to pick any race of a class and be completely effective is great in wow.
I make my decisions based on animations and aesthetics.
Please do the class picking video! Much love.
Thanks for talking about shaman tanks :D
For PVE Undead Warlock, cannibalism is also great for leveling. One thing you can do is life tap your mana to full and then eat corpses to get plenty of free resources.
I put cannibalize a bit higher in PVP since a lot of classes don't have self healing. Especially within Battlegrounds when fighting multiple enemies there isn't always healer available. Even if you do carry pots and have bandages they won''t be enough to top you off alone. Still a great list and good tips.
The shadow priest part of this vid made my day ty
You are killing me with the hype
When I was leveling my Undead Rogue I had a macro that would cannibalize before going into stealth. I found that if I didn’t macro the two together, I would forget all about cannibalize. But once I had macroed them together it was amazing how often it was getting used. It was like eating free food after each kill.
When I got into endgame content, however, I decided to scrap the macro, because for some reasons [sometimes] cannibalize would break you out of stealth. Which was kinda weird because it was only some of the time. But it was just enough to mess you up in PVP where you can’t afford to mess up your own stealth attempt.
I do the same with macroing Pick Pocket with Sap. And again, it’s amazing how much Gold you accumulatively make if you pickpocket every single time you sap an enemy. However, as I remember Sap put you in combat in a Vanilla, so that macro won’t be quite as good in Classic. However it will still make some extra gold because you’re still going to have to Sap, so why not make some gold every time you do. The difference is that you won’t be sapping EVERYTHING in Classic, unless you also want to fight everything. On the other hand, sometimes Sap puts you in combat in retail as well. Just not often.
Macroing Sap with Pickpocket will also be good in Classic considering how much harder it is to make gold while leveling in the first place. Every piece of copper counts, and that little bit you make pickpocketing can be that much you don’t need to spend on repairs and things like that.
Thanks for going over all the shaman stuff. Not planning on any kind of min-max, but I wanted to hear general thoughts on what you would choose and why.
I quit during warlords after playing since mid 2006. Thanks to your nicely done videos I might come back for some vanilla, good job!
@clonK world of casuals ?? how d fak you knew the game was made for casuals when you didnt even tried it ...
TBH, garrisons and the constant dumbing down of the classes did it for me. The only thing I would miss playing vanilla again is mogging 😃
@@manuelacevedo6455 you made a good point but i was commenting on other guy, how d fak he knows WoW is for casuals when hes not even playing it
I believe you missed one thing that is something to keep in mind.
I could be wrong, but i don't feel like rewatching both videos to correct myself if such is the case.
The troll racial, for those of you that might be looking to include that into your caster of various forms.
Keep in mind that the increased casting speed does NOT change the mana-cost of any spell/ability.
Sooo, with that said rely to much on the haste and you might just find yourself moving towards "oom" faster then other healers.
Alot of people will obviously think about this already, but i'm pretty sure not everyone does.
Thus i feel this comment is justifyed.
Good video overall!
Personaly i will be remaking my Warlock that i did when i was 9 years old.
This time i will be looking forward to actually understanding the game :3
As someone who wants to heal as a priest, I love Trolls, but I also love Devouring Plague
Man I wish we still had enhancement shaman as a tank
Ikr, it's all there. They could easily make it a tank class. They have earth at their disposal. How much more tanky can you get?
Undead priest it is for me, the small group i might be playing classic is atm lacking a tank and a priest and this video made me jump on priest really fast especially since they work so well on undead which were my favorite horde race in vanila wow.
keep pumping the vids madseason really enjoy your content
So there I was perfectly content to play as alliance, and just do the things on that side. Then I saw you put up shamen. Now I tank, it's what I do, it's what I've done since Wrath, no before that when they told me in Gruul's Lair that a mage was needed to tank, and again in Black temple. Tanking is life. The shaman though, has been my mistress since tbc, merrily we went about chain lightninging and frost shocking our enemies, the times we had, running free in our ghost wolf form. Goddammit, I gotta roll Horde, don't I.
And you'll be able to tank as Shaman too :p
@@TheFlibidy I could, but I'll probably go UD warrior for tanking (Trolls are just the worst ascetics to me), and then have an orc shamen for farming purposes, make myself a nightfall or something.
Just remember, unless I'm mistaken, ghost wolf was not an instant cast back at the beginning of vanilla (unless you had NS ready ofc). I'm not entirely sure when they added it to the game via talents, but I'm pretty confident it wasn't an option for the first part of vanilla. Also it did not have that minimum 100% run speed buff back then either. Don't get me wrong I was a huge shaman main myself between vanilla til the end of wotlk... but cast time on GW... man that's a bummer lol.
Never played wow til i watched this channel, now im maining an unholy orc dk running thru shadowlands😅 ill go blood when im doing dungeons
Will of The Forsaken is just, any class just goes well with that.
these are the best race guides yet
Good stuff, thanks man.
I'd actually love seeing a class picking guide. I've played them all many times over, but not in vanilla and I'm sure things are quite different. :)
Here's what I'm rolling with at the moment:
-Druid - Tauren (duh)
-Hunter - Orc (5% threat boost to your pet)
-Mage - Troll (regen might not be much, but it's the only thing that applies when I'm AoE kiting)
-Priest - Undead (can't heal if I'm feared)
-Rogue - Orc (mainly for the joke about an orc rogue who never trained stealth and just maxxed intimidation and would say "you can't see me")
-Shaman - Troll (at this point I had 2 of every other race and only 1 troll)
-Warrior - Tauren (5% HP and War Stomp)
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MadSeasonShow, you are playing all the songs that i listen to in my free time/study time. Nice.
You should do a comparison between the Night Elf Druids and the Tauren Druids. And Maybe, the Worgen and Troll Druids in the later expansions.
I was planning on making a troll hunter as I did when I started playing in BC, glad to see this is a good combination :D
As a rogue in vanilla the orc stun resist seemed more like 50% chance..
Honestly for ud cannibalize was nice in pve and pvp along with a bandage
female undead also have the best casting anymation, which is why I'm rolling that for classic, since I'm going horde and I'm going to play a mage as my first character, warrior as number 2
Niche thing for Tauren hunters: IIRC war stomp is good against one of the demons for the rhok'delar quest in case your other CC messes up.
everytime the bell sounds on the town square that Madseasonshow will speak i rush over there! Love these videos 😄
Shman tank ftw. i did it pre BC and when not in raids- well +20 man raids. it was awesome.
Keen for the class picking vid! Im new to your channel and im loving the vids man ^_^ keep it up!!!
I used to tank Kara with my enhancement shaman... Purchased the token shield and never got pulled off of! It was wild and tons of fun.
Lol 17 minutes into this vid the Windwaker song starts playing and suddenly I have the urge to play Zelda : P Now I am playing 1 game while watching a youtube video on a second game with a third game on my mind. Its gameception!
I remember Undead was remarkably effective in PvP. I remember an Undead Shadow Priest terrorizing Westfall and slaughtering all the max level players that would come in, and then healing through cannibalize.
You have to take into account that while the orc stun resist helps you against classes that are much more dangerous against a warlock, WotF works 100% of the time. Also, you don't have to "allign stars" to get that cannibalize off during fear; it's actually pretty common occurrence. I really can't say whether UD is better than ORC because that stun resist does really help against the second most lethal warlock killers in the game, but WotF allows you to DOMINATE against all other warlocks and priests. It's again one of those preference things.
I love the Zelda music dude!
Undead druid would be fun to see. Bear form = Diseased bear. Cat form = Bloodhound. Travel form = Plaguehound. I got no idea for boomkin. Maybe nerubian Idk XD
Obviously a abomination with antlers on it's head :D
One of those skeleton mages.
I don't think they allow ugly corpses in the emerald dream
Actually i'd argue for shaman enhance DPS (Nightfall in the raid) that Orc is better, cuz the wep skill allows u to not get 3% hit on ur gear, giving u a lot more options on items that would instead give u MP5 / agi / int. The berserking doesn't give that many extra hits compared to not having it, and since there's a low chance for the proc already, i'd really go with the orc instead. It's overall more effective and gives more damage overall and helps with gearing more
@@DisastrousIntentionally I'm well aware of that, but that wasn't the point i was arguing for. I was simply mentioning that i'd say that Orc is better for Enhanc Shaman Nightfall than Troll is because of the reasons stated above.
And regarding the "absolutely never" part of ur comment in regards to melee hunters. I'd like u to find me a player that would enjoy that type of playstyle, i''m certain it's rarer that enhanc shaman with NF.
@@DisastrousIntentionally Then find me a player willing to do so. I've seen more shaman tanks than i've seen melee hunters. I know very well that they outclass the shaman in NF uptime, but in order to have a hunter doing so, u need to find a playing willing to do it.
@@DisastrousIntentionally Then please do explain to me how does 1 work as a "normal" hunter while constantly applying the nightfall? It's a serious question since i don't really understand. U can't stand in melee and shoot ur ranged abilities, and u have to walk further than the deadzone, to me, some1 who hasn't played with a NF hunter would like to know how it works if u've got the time to explain, or if u got a link with the information.
@@DisastrousIntentionally Yes, that does make sense, and i'm pretty certain i understand it all now, thanks for ur insight :)
step 1. have mount available at 39
step 2. queue for a battleground
step 3. ding 40, spent talent get mount training
step 4. enter 30-39 battlegrounds at level 40
(unless they do the 31-40 style battleground brackets)
same idea with Boomkin or Shadowform, que 39, ding, throw that talent in real quick, eviscerate
One bit of criticism that really hinders the video for me. Next to that PVE/PVP label put which class you’re currently discussing. I’ve watched the whole video but when I wanted to revisit to find out what to pick for a mage I just kept jumping over the section and just generally unsure what was being discussed as I jumped around searching
love the chrono trigger music
madseasonshow: Haha who would dedicate their entire raid existence to a single debuff
me, plotting since classic was announced to heal my way into Nightfall mats so I can justify being the one Enhancement shaman in raid: *sweats*
Why would they give you Nightfall mats if you’re a healer? That’s the problem with the plan
@@spooglet3279 He said the mats
Love the windwaker music
Nice choice of songs, could identify the Chrono Trigger one.
The Wind Waker soundtrack made me go back and play it again.
I a lot of tanking with my Enhancement Shaman in vanilla however you are correct I didn't do it in raids mostly 5-man dungeons. I really miss my orc Enhancement Shaman!