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Just curious to your opinion, if Blizzard were to put in new content into Classic WoW after the final patch, would you want them to actually give you a way to purify the corrupted Ashbringer?
I love your videos mate, but i will have to correct you on the Dark Portal facts that you stated in the video. In the book " The wow Diary, A Journal of Computer Game Development " is stated by the developers that the Dark Portal placements in Pre Alpha/Alpha WoW were just random places that the developers were experimenting on puttin the actual Dark Portal at , before actually being settled down in the Blasted Lands.
The portal in the login screen is the one in hellfire peninsula and shows azeroth how it was told to be a "lush world ripe for the taking" as medivh told gul'dan. In reality the other end that lead to azeroth was located in a swamp
The world of Warcraft is actually a story through the eyes of the horde and starts with us going through the dark portal (this comment is a joke btw) so yeah alliance is just a side storyline created from our (horde) discovering you
in regards to the Emerald Dream, i was watching Mark Kern talk about some old dev stories when Classic first came out. it was originally planned to be where you went when you died. it would be like a mirror world of azeroth and you still had to go to where you died if you wanted to respawn. or you could just stay in the ED version of azeroth and quest/adventure there instead. sounds ludicrously ambitious to me, but they had a lot of crazy (awesome) ideas back then.
That sounds like a very strange idea. Why would a druid exclusive place be the place where our hero's soul resides? What would happen if we die there? It sounds like a very interesting idea, but not detailed enough.
@@hunlepto2239 Its because world of warcraft is also a lovecraft story and one of his quotes is "That which may eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die" Which has been shown to be a reference to the old gods not dying but simply going to sleep and that death and sleep are interchangeable. Therefore id think that; *Possible spoilers* 1 of 3 things is happening; Azeroth is corrupted already, Azeroth is the titan of Void/Death The old gods are our actual creators not azeroth.
@@DJ_Treu Interesting outlook on that. That way, Emerald Dream would have given us alot more questions (and maybe answers inside) about Azeroth itself than what we currently have.
That's not as insane as it sounds, WoW came out in 2004 and the biggest loot based RPG Blizzard had then was Diablo 2 and in Diablo 2 you have special items called charms which only have an effect if they're in your inventory.
Lol, and i though that was only my idea and only few my guildies hear about it from me - and that's why it is not on this list. Obviously, i was wrong...
Saaaaaaaaame! The intro cinematic with a tauren wielding a totem weapon was what made me roll a tauren. I realized later ofc it was just a reference to the tauren wielding Totems in WC3
I played through Beta. I remember grouping with someone in ashenvale and both of us dying. As we both died, we hit release, zoned back to the graveyard and fell through the world. We fell for a short time and eventually zoned into... You guessed it, The Emerald Dream. Being a ghost and not knowing at the time how to turn off the ghost effect we both ran around this zone for a while, trying to find a way to get rezzed. At this point, we were basically stuck and had to open a ticket to a GM. I remember the GM scolding us for being in the zone until I explained to them what happened. All I remember from the zone was that it had very large trees but other than that, it was basically flat. Always thought they were going to release that zone eventually. Anyway, cool little memory I have from playing in the beta.
"Why have the dark portal on the log in screen?" That's a line that hits close to the old MMO days. The early MMOs weren't 'just a game' you played into. It was like 'walking into a new world.' There weren't all those game guides where everyone knew everything. It was a foreign new world with mystery at every corner! The dark portal on the loading screen was like your portal from your computer going into Azeroth. A portal between the real world and Azeroth. That's why the portal is on the loading screen, lol.
It's funny how most of those things actually came out in Legion (Emerald Dream, wieldable uncorrupted Ashbringer, warglaives...), like the devs had stumbled upon an old roadmap that was scrapped when they were working on TBC XD
@@neji275 I liked the begining of Cata much more than i liked Legon, that's for sure. The end of Cata sucked about as much as the end of Legion though.
@self replicating whatnot. my issue is that with legion we had a pretty inane grind...for just about everything. And then for some weird reason...oh lets make it all ground based because...uh er uh reasons? oO. The legendaries were fantastic in some cases, and then lame in others. The real issue I had was the mis-use of the quest board. A ton of quests hit a arbituary wall for example, or just stopped. It'd build up to this potentially really neet thing . Just to send a followers on it. That said: man finally being able to have the option to have that was totes.lol. Their was Cata? oO :P
A strong rumor/myth back in the day, was that if you leveld up engineering, you'd get to craft and pilot your very own shredder, if you went goblin engineering of course. And there even was a quest where you had to collect some manual pages of a shredder pilot guide.
I was a Horde player on Daggerspine when Kuroma was active. I do not believe that the account was played by only one person, as the character was on seemingly 24/7. You could ALWAYS find Kuroma in Alterac Valley, usually hanging around the alliance graveyard in the middle, and always in cat form. He would basically never shift out of cat form, not even when it would easily save his life. Really lazy, and pathetic in a 1v1, he was there ONLY to farm honor. I'm pretty sure that the alliance hated him more than we did, since he kept a lot of other people from reaching rank 14.
I remember a friend of mine finding the tiger cave, and parking an alt there. He logged on daily at various intervals for months in hopes of the vendor spawning. Good times. I love myths like this. It really compounds a game's sense of scale and mystery.
I remember a colleague telling me how he went to the Badlands as a lowbie. He made a mad dash for the Dark Portal, thinking he would go through before the aggroed monsters would murder him. Only he went through it and he didn't go anywhere but behind it. And then the monsters sent him back to the graveyard.
About entering the Dark Portal before TBC: If you watch the Behind the Scenes videos that were on the dvd, which came with Vanilla Collector's Edition, one of the Blizz employees are literally saying, that players will have to find a way to open the Dark Portal. While a bit vague, that certainly did not help quell the quest to enter the portal.
The Dark Portal myth was actually solved with the release of "The World of Warcraft Diary" by John Staats. In the book, he explains that the reason the Dark Portal could be found all over the place was because... they weren't sure where they wanted to have the portal. Yes, even though it's supposed to have a fixed position in the lore.
I saw another interview where they stated that it was a placeholder for dungeon entrances until they could design an actual dungeon exterior. That was their explanation for the one underwater in azshara
8:15 While you couldn't enter Karazhan in vanilla, you could enter its basement! You had to have a mage sheep you in a duel and then you would clip through a portcullis while in sheep form. Sometimes took a few tries. This entry was removed when they revamped Karazhan, but you get into a very similar place for the Lucid Nightmare quest now.
The stat line about Kuroma is awesome. Daggerspine was my home for all of vanilla and through wrath. I did many battlegrounds alongside Kuroma and his always present priest healer Angehoul (sp?) I want to say it was 9 months total he held GM...pretty frustrating for the rest of the people grinding. He also almost never spoke in chat which led to people spreading rumors he was a bot, which led him to start speaking in all 1’s and 0’s from time to time just to mess with people.
that was true tho. The first expansion was originally south seas with pandarens as alliance race (probably goblins for horde but that's just my guess). but there was some technical limitation that made it impossible, and they already had alot of outland related stuff ready for 1.13 patch, so they did outland instead. Of course pandarens didn't fit that expansion so they came up with draenei.
there is non insignificant amount of 'magic' that we have lost in video games, from how much information we have access to these days. prior to the internet having all the answers, the myths, the legends, the stories we shared.... they added wonder to our experience. all of these are things modern players will not experience, and thats a shame.
it’s really cool to think jeff kaplan was working on a game my parents were playing when i was like 3 to now working on overwatch, a game i’ve been playing for a few years.
I found his chanel when i had a two weeks of for learning for the finals, in every break i watched one vid from him until ive seen every video and then i saw his last one it hit me like a truck.. Even toda when i hear his music i got sad he was the man and i will never forget him RIP BROTHER
@@benjijagermeister2956 Yeah, i do understand that. I found his channell long ago and liked it a lot. The amount of work and love he was puting into making of his videos was amazing, incredible. I watched all the new and old videos, few was still missing to watch and i saw the last thumbnail. The music together with the message in video description is incredible chilling even today. Few videos before he was talking about how everything is going nicely ... and suddenly he is gone. And those videos was made almost one after another. His intro music is almost hauntig now for me, such a sadness.
I found his channel on one of the first few wow videos he made when he had a small amount of subscribers. I watched his channel for so long, and was so happy for him when he started getting subscribers. When he got sick it was really sad, but I had hope he would pull through. His last video was devastating to me.
I kept thinking about the first rumors of GM island and how there was certainly a way to get there by natural means. Also being able to unlock a way into old iron-forge. Great video and solid top 10 I remember just about all of these happening at the time. Freaking classic times for sure.
I still remember to this day people talking about it in chat and ventrilo on different ways to purify it. Loved that mystery feeling back then when things were soo unknown.
All the stuff that never made it into the game ... this is why I eventually want a Classic+ server, with all the stuff that was planned but never made it into the game because of time constraints.
I hear everywhere I turn that it's going to be like that. Like oldschool runescape and how they keep adding new content in an old format... tbh I can see the point, why have 4 different games of different versions of the game when you can have 2 really good ones with big communities instead of a handful of small ones
As much as part of me worries that the current team in charge of WoW wouldn't have what it takes to pull it off, I still can't deny how much I would pay to see this. So many incomplete ideas, so much lost potential - Hyjal, various dungeons that never came to be realized, and of course everything that was touched on in this video - and we have a unique opportunity to go back and see it all fleshed out now with the advent of Classic, if only Blizz would feel up to the task. However, I think we all know it's never going to happen of course - most likely thing is they'll just release a new set of a servers for those interested in TBC and call it a day.
@Kid Icarus Exactly.. It'll be the same thing when they reverse the pruning in retail for the next xpac. They will just trickle a few old abilities back without creating the next evolution of class design and go "That's what you wanted, right?". They have no faith in themselves.
Yikes this was so awesome! I still remember many of those myths and how we spent countless hours searching for them. The tiger cave was new to me though! Ahh, those were the days when fishing for the Ashbringer. Thanks for this and all of your videos man!
Quit wow like 5 years ago, but I always come back to your videos. New ones, and rewatching old ones. Amazing to watch and listen while I do other stuff like chores, or taking a walk etc. Dunno if you'll ever see this comment but wish you the best. Happy New year!
How I had always thought the login portal is that we are in a dreary world, and then we see the portal to azeroth, and we go into the world of warcraft.
What i love about your channel is that, you will launch video of something i never thought or asked for, and enjoy every second of it, and this is another one, wasn't thinking about such theme, but hey, here is a new video, and man it's worth the time :) Great video mate.
man, dopefish brings back old memories. I remember getting behind the instance portal of karazhan back in the day and there was a big smiley face under the building in the terrain.
The raid loot was reviled during BC on the community forums. If I recall correctly, it was randomly generated the moment the raid instance was created with the millisecond to a power being the variable that controlled random nature.
Thanks for mentioning my channel! Really cool video; I have always enjoyed exploring pre-Cataclysm world and wondering about the purpose or origins of some unusual locations. I am also so glad that the Emerald Dream was finally sort of added in Legion, it was a favourite place of mine.
I feel it depends more on the person. I personally thought it would be fun to try wow classic, but after a while I just didn't enjoy it as much as retail
The tiger dropped in original Zul Gurub, super low chance but there was an actual tiger, also there is a spectral tiger gained from the playing cards sets. Karazhan, in Wrath the devs started building the undercroft which in originality was as large below ground as it was above ground with tricks and traps and some pretty creepy furniture. You used to get a mage to sheep you through the doorway, was pretty cool.
How about this: Make #ClassicWoWPlus , in which they would add/continue ALL that was planned from the beginning of vanilla ! Including, but not limited to most of the myths found in this video and all the incomplete quest lines / incomplete locations. EDIT: If there are concerns with overlapping content of other expansions, we *could* consider this "the PLUS timeline".
Its really cool to think that back then people actually thought the devs would have made an entire zone that was almost impossible to access but all but the most determined players, like an in game hunt for a kind of holy grail or lost ark.
your videos and especially your intro are really calming somehow. I have quit wow a long time ago but from time to time I like to pick up on whats new and how it develops. Your videos give great insight and somewhat bring back some memories.
Not gonna lie the Glaive thing still bothers me to this day, they're *the* iconic Night Elf unit used by their main frontline unit in Warcraft 3 and the Warden Hero unit used a circular glaive-type weapon, how it took all the way til BFA for anything like the three bladed glaive to come into the game boggles my mind. And even then they fucked it up by making it demonhunter exclusive. It should have been a one handed weapon option from the beginning darnit
I wonder if the "definitely born again hardcore" was initially influenced by the quote in the movie Full metal jacket when the Drill instructor is speaking about private pile.
As a Mage u can Enter Karazan! I know because I did in classic jsut last week. You can Blink inside but there isnt anything to do there. You can chill behind the bars and thats it and if you are unlucky you fall through the map and respawn after a Crash right in front of the bars of Karazan
Biggest myth not listed: Everquest 2, Vanguard, LotRO, Age of Conan, Warhammer, Aion, Darkfall, Tabula Rasa, Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online, Star Wars Old Republic, Black Desert, Final Fantasy 14, Runescape Update, All Points Bulletin, etc, were all going to kill WoW. 😂
I'm working on a game for my internship. And I have to focus on what I'm doing. But I can have a small floating player in the corner of one of my screens. But most videos are just way too distracting. I can't focus on what I'm doing. I can only watch your videos and actually hear what you're telling. And focus on the work I'm doing. I think your voice is really relaxing. And the jokes told really monotone. It's perfect. We call it 'dry humor' in dutch. And it's the best kind of humor.
For the Outland thing, you COULD get there by jumping out of bounds in certain instances. You were able to do in as late as Sunwell Plateau. It was a copy/paste of the EK map. Originally on the EK map, it was an island similar to GM Isle but there were bounds put up to block you. They omitted this from instance maps though. Shame too. Whenever you see "Original Outlands", you get the cheap crap of the Deadmines. There was a much bigger map available that got little attention
Did not expect to hear Dopefish being referenced after all of these years. Had no idea he did a video like this either even though I used to be a big fan...
The Fist of the Deity was my favorite-looking weapon. I loved it on my rogue, especially after they made it one-hand instead of main hand (which meant you couldn't dual wield it and it always looked unbalanced until the change). Then they changed it years later and I couldn't use it anymore. Can't remember why exactly, maybe because it was either sword or dagger and I was specced for the opposite on my rogue. But combining that with the Assassination set looked awesome. I always thought it looked glaive-like.
Karazhan WAS enterable at one point in time in vanilla --- during the TBC prepatch. The mobs inside are level 69-70, they dropped netherweave and high level green/blue gear as well. I led a gdkp group to farm the place back then.
The best one is number one LOL, the fact that they actually made u do all the things people tried over the years for the pure version just to obtain the new alternate corrupted version, that is so sick lol.
Back in Classic, I heard a rumor that druids could change their aquatic form into a shark through a quest in Theramore. I was devastated upon realizing it was false.
so banned for exploiting something they wouldnt have had if GM hadnt screwed up... was the GM reprimanded or was the player the only one who saw punishment?
Why should the GM be punished? It was an exceedingly small chance of happening honest mistake that they probably didn't even realize until it was too late. The player who had the GM item knew what the effect did and willingly chose to exploit it over and over, so they're the ones who get punished.
Always some people defending exploiting because "it's not their fault that it's possible". Just like the people who find something on a street and are very surprised that they face theft charges if they keep it. "It's not my fault. They shouldn't have lost it!" Or all these people "accidentally" getting their whole account worth of cash from the ATM with swapped notes by mistake. "But that's not my fault, they should have fixed it. I didn't even know anything is wrong. I just happened to withdraw 1000$, then put 2000 back into my account and withdraw them again. Pretty normal. What do you mean to pay it back. No. It's mine now. No, that's not stealing, officer, it's not my fault, it's their fault. Why should I be reprimanded for their mistakes?!"
I was the guild luck token in vanilla/BC. Regular raid member was arrested in Vanilla and left a spot open. I was only 60 online who in guild who wasn't already in the raid (and attuned). So My Boomkin got the invite. They didn't know what to do, since the guy I was replacing was normally who zoned in first and I wasn't aware of this. I showed up and said sorry for making everyone wait on me, and ran into portal. Ended up getting better loot than they normally did (the boomkin buff was also apreciated by everyone) and I ended up becoming the new luck token going forward.
I feel like some of the rumors were actually started by blizzard to encourage dedicated players to keep sinking time into these goosechases. Ashebringer especially. Easier to make 2 sentences in a fishing book and suck up hours of subs while they worked on actual content.
@Josh derp There have always been Easter eggs and hidden bits in game. But I agree that teasing with large non-existing zones is a bit trollish/griefer for old WoW.
IRT the emerald dream - there was a PTR where various commands were left enabled, to include the worldport command. You could port to any world zone in the game, to include the ED. So we had a bunch of people running around that zone. Super fun. IRT Dopefish’s video, it was done on a live server but with heavy model editing.
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Got good feedback in the last top 10 - thought I'd throw another one together for you....enjoy! Also, the channel just hit 300k subscribers this weekend - are we beating BfA? I'd like to announce my next video series called "Madseason expeditions", where if you watch the entire 20 minute video, you have a .00001% chance of obtaining something cool! Catch me live at www.twitch.tv/madseasonshow
you got real happy over that combined Twin blades of Azzinoth :P
Thought the secret cow level would of made the list.
Atleast youre honest
Just curious to your opinion, if Blizzard were to put in new content into Classic WoW after the final patch, would you want them to actually give you a way to purify the corrupted Ashbringer?
I love your videos mate, but i will have to correct you on the Dark Portal facts that you stated in the video. In the book " The wow Diary, A Journal of Computer Game Development " is stated by the developers that the Dark Portal placements in Pre Alpha/Alpha WoW were just random places that the developers were experimenting on puttin the actual Dark Portal at , before actually being settled down in the Blasted Lands.
I always thought the Dark Portal login screen was something like us taking the portal from our world to the game world.
Same, I always saw it as us entering the world of warcraft or like us being transported into it
The portal in the login screen is the one in hellfire peninsula and shows azeroth how it was told to be a "lush world ripe for the taking" as medivh told gul'dan. In reality the other end that lead to azeroth was located in a swamp
The world of Warcraft is actually a story through the eyes of the horde and starts with us going through the dark portal (this comment is a joke btw) so yeah alliance is just a side storyline created from our (horde) discovering you
Yeah me too, it worked wonders in my 11 y ear old mind
I love that. Now I'm going to start telling myself that's what it is.
in regards to the Emerald Dream, i was watching Mark Kern talk about some old dev stories when Classic first came out. it was originally planned to be where you went when you died. it would be like a mirror world of azeroth and you still had to go to where you died if you wanted to respawn. or you could just stay in the ED version of azeroth and quest/adventure there instead.
sounds ludicrously ambitious to me, but they had a lot of crazy (awesome) ideas back then.
That sounds quite awesome xD
That sounds like a very strange idea. Why would a druid exclusive place be the place where our hero's soul resides? What would happen if we die there? It sounds like a very interesting idea, but not detailed enough.
STOP WITH THE SPOILERS FOR NEXT EXPAC ON LIVE!
@@hunlepto2239 Its because world of warcraft is also a lovecraft story and one of his quotes is "That which may eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die" Which has been shown to be a reference to the old gods not dying but simply going to sleep and that death and sleep are interchangeable.
Therefore id think that; *Possible spoilers* 1 of 3 things is happening;
Azeroth is corrupted already,
Azeroth is the titan of Void/Death
The old gods are our actual creators not azeroth.
@@DJ_Treu Interesting outlook on that. That way, Emerald Dream would have given us alot more questions (and maybe answers inside) about Azeroth itself than what we currently have.
sacrificing the right amount of gnomes is what determines the loot drops. everyone knows that
Thats why we have **** drops. We cleared MC without wipe. Next time i will try less healing to gnomes :D
sacrificing the right ammount of gnomes... so that means every last one of them right?
@@googoofeesmithersmits4536 Yeah, but you need to leave some alive for when the next raid unlocks.
I'm from Final Fantasy XIV, so I have to ask: why is the reputation of the Gnomes of Azeroth and the Llalafell of Hydaelyn so similiar?
@@normanellis8204 oh yeah I guess so, if not then there won't be any left for other raids :P
I can't believe that "carrying a rabbits foot in your inventory increases your loot chances" didn't make it in the list.
Only myths here bruh.
@@peterbach1126 LOL
@@peterbach1126 It's a myth, it's even a purple item in Wotlk
That's not as insane as it sounds, WoW came out in 2004 and the biggest loot based RPG Blizzard had then was Diablo 2 and in Diablo 2 you have special items called charms which only have an effect if they're in your inventory.
Lol, and i though that was only my idea and only few my guildies hear about it from me - and that's why it is not on this list. Obviously, i was wrong...
I remember everyone talking about Tauren Totem weapons, being a Tauren warrior. I spent a long time hoping one would drop
Ooh yes!
Saaaaaaaaame! The intro cinematic with a tauren wielding a totem weapon was what made me roll a tauren.
I realized later ofc it was just a reference to the tauren wielding Totems in WC3
when i started with wow i thought hunter could raise his pet and use it as his mount.
#somechanges
Lol
when I played around tbc, my brother told me you got a saddle item
me not that kind of tiger
@@goldencommon2266 Lmao
I played through Beta. I remember grouping with someone in ashenvale and both of us dying. As we both died, we hit release, zoned back to the graveyard and fell through the world. We fell for a short time and eventually zoned into... You guessed it, The Emerald Dream. Being a ghost and not knowing at the time how to turn off the ghost effect we both ran around this zone for a while, trying to find a way to get rezzed. At this point, we were basically stuck and had to open a ticket to a GM. I remember the GM scolding us for being in the zone until I explained to them what happened.
All I remember from the zone was that it had very large trees but other than that, it was basically flat. Always thought they were going to release that zone eventually. Anyway, cool little memory I have from playing in the beta.
Too bad there’s no footage of this. It sounds pretty cool
@@BullFrogFace cap
"like happiness existing"
big true
it does! Ofcourse, if you are in a depression it´s hard to believe that. Don´t project your own negative views as facts.
"Why have the dark portal on the log in screen?"
That's a line that hits close to the old MMO days. The early MMOs weren't 'just a game' you played into. It was like 'walking into a new world.' There weren't all those game guides where everyone knew everything. It was a foreign new world with mystery at every corner!
The dark portal on the loading screen was like your portal from your computer going into Azeroth. A portal between the real world and Azeroth. That's why the portal is on the loading screen, lol.
In the vein of the Emerald Dream and having "finished" the Eranikus questline, I'd love to see a "Best Classic questlines that were abandoned," next!
It's funny how most of those things actually came out in Legion (Emerald Dream, wieldable uncorrupted Ashbringer, warglaives...), like the devs had stumbled upon an old roadmap that was scrapped when they were working on TBC XD
And it all sucked because by the time Legion came out blizzard completely lost their mojo.
@@Self-replicating_whatnot Legion was awesome, idk what you're talking about
@@Self-replicating_whatnot Dude Legion was pretty damn good. let me guess you liked Cata LUL
@@neji275 I liked the begining of Cata much more than i liked Legon, that's for sure. The end of Cata sucked about as much as the end of Legion though.
@self replicating whatnot. my issue is that with legion we had a pretty inane grind...for just about everything. And then for some weird reason...oh lets make it all ground based because...uh er uh reasons? oO. The legendaries were fantastic in some cases, and then lame in others. The real issue I had was the mis-use of the quest board. A ton of quests hit a arbituary wall for example, or just stopped. It'd build up to this potentially really neet thing . Just to send a followers on it.
That said: man finally being able to have the option to have that was totes.lol.
Their was Cata? oO :P
A strong rumor/myth back in the day, was that if you leveld up engineering, you'd get to craft and pilot your very own shredder, if you went goblin engineering of course. And there even was a quest where you had to collect some manual pages of a shredder pilot guide.
I was a Horde player on Daggerspine when Kuroma was active. I do not believe that the account was played by only one person, as the character was on seemingly 24/7. You could ALWAYS find Kuroma in Alterac Valley, usually hanging around the alliance graveyard in the middle, and always in cat form. He would basically never shift out of cat form, not even when it would easily save his life. Really lazy, and pathetic in a 1v1, he was there ONLY to farm honor.
I'm pretty sure that the alliance hated him more than we did, since he kept a lot of other people from reaching rank 14.
Wouldn’t be too hard to write a program to enter a queue turn into cat and run to a point
I remember a friend of mine finding the tiger cave, and parking an alt there. He logged on daily at various intervals for months in hopes of the vendor spawning. Good times.
I love myths like this. It really compounds a game's sense of scale and mystery.
I remember a colleague telling me how he went to the Badlands as a lowbie. He made a mad dash for the Dark Portal, thinking he would go through before the aggroed monsters would murder him. Only he went through it and he didn't go anywhere but behind it. And then the monsters sent him back to the graveyard.
That tavern music in the beginning gets me every single time
its Final Fantasy music xD
About entering the Dark Portal before TBC: If you watch the Behind the Scenes videos that were on the dvd, which came with Vanilla Collector's Edition, one of the Blizz employees are literally saying, that players will have to find a way to open the Dark Portal. While a bit vague, that certainly did not help quell the quest to enter the portal.
The Dark Portal myth was actually solved with the release of "The World of Warcraft Diary" by John Staats.
In the book, he explains that the reason the Dark Portal could be found all over the place was because... they weren't sure where they wanted to have the portal. Yes, even though it's supposed to have a fixed position in the lore.
I saw another interview where they stated that it was a placeholder for dungeon entrances until they could design an actual dungeon exterior. That was their explanation for the one underwater in azshara
Do whatever is best for the game and then adapt the story around it
3:48 I still use this noise to this day when talking about juicy stats. Such epicness.
"Going back to the days of the loch ness monster... big foot... happiness existing..." LOL TRUE
8:15 While you couldn't enter Karazhan in vanilla, you could enter its basement! You had to have a mage sheep you in a duel and then you would clip through a portcullis while in sheep form. Sometimes took a few tries. This entry was removed when they revamped Karazhan, but you get into a very similar place for the Lucid Nightmare quest now.
Yeah, the crypts
The stat line about Kuroma is awesome. Daggerspine was my home for all of vanilla and through wrath. I did many battlegrounds alongside Kuroma and his always present priest healer Angehoul (sp?) I want to say it was 9 months total he held GM...pretty frustrating for the rest of the people grinding. He also almost never spoke in chat which led to people spreading rumors he was a bot, which led him to start speaking in all 1’s and 0’s from time to time just to mess with people.
I heard they are gonna make Pandaren a playable race in the Burning Crusade
What..? That's stupid! Blizzard would never do something stupid like that!
@@cherrywaveess but... but they did bfa
I like panda.
Even though its GAY.
I am so embarrassed I like the race
@@Nico-pl6yf that is 100% false... they did it like 3 expansions before bfa.
that was true tho. The first expansion was originally south seas with pandarens as alliance race (probably goblins for horde but that's just my guess). but there was some technical limitation that made it impossible, and they already had alot of outland related stuff ready for 1.13 patch, so they did outland instead. Of course pandarens didn't fit that expansion so they came up with draenei.
there is non insignificant amount of 'magic' that we have lost in video games, from how much information we have access to these days. prior to the internet having all the answers, the myths, the legends, the stories we shared.... they added wonder to our experience. all of these are things modern players will not experience, and thats a shame.
“Outlandish theories”
=]
Classy :D
Also, pretty much lost it at xxlegolaszxx =)))
it’s really cool to think jeff kaplan was working on a game my parents were playing when i was like 3 to now working on overwatch, a game i’ve been playing for a few years.
Hayven Games, one of the best WoW youtubers ever. His videos are made with such love for WoW. I really miss youtube recommendation for his new videos.
R.I.P to a real one
I found his chanel when i had a two weeks of for learning for the finals, in every break i watched one vid from him until ive seen every video and then i saw his last one it hit me like a truck..
Even toda when i hear his music i got sad he was the man and i will never forget him
RIP BROTHER
@@benjijagermeister2956 Yeah, i do understand that. I found his channell long ago and liked it a lot. The amount of work and love he was puting into making of his videos was amazing, incredible. I watched all the new and old videos, few was still missing to watch and i saw the last thumbnail. The music together with the message in video description is incredible chilling even today. Few videos before he was talking about how everything is going nicely ... and suddenly he is gone. And those videos was made almost one after another. His intro music is almost hauntig now for me, such a sadness.
Setnja92 can‘t hold back teats when i see the thumbnail and hear the music.
Feel you bro
I found his channel on one of the first few wow videos he made when he had a small amount of subscribers. I watched his channel for so long, and was so happy for him when he started getting subscribers. When he got sick it was really sad, but I had hope he would pull through. His last video was devastating to me.
I kept thinking about the first rumors of GM island and how there was certainly a way to get there by natural means. Also being able to unlock a way into old iron-forge.
Great video and solid top 10 I remember just about all of these happening at the time. Freaking classic times for sure.
The biggest myth: thinking you were prepared
Congrats on 300k brother!
There’s a player currently that has the bengal tiger mount, it’s rumored to be make a wish
Do you have an armory link
www.wowhead.com/news/story-of-the-reins-of-the-bengal-tiger-special-make-a-wish-mount-unavailable-to-319136
I still remember to this day people talking about it in chat and ventrilo on different ways to purify it. Loved that mystery feeling back then when things were soo unknown.
All the stuff that never made it into the game ... this is why I eventually want a Classic+ server, with all the stuff that was planned but never made it into the game because of time constraints.
I hear everywhere I turn that it's going to be like that. Like oldschool runescape and how they keep adding new content in an old format... tbh I can see the point, why have 4 different games of different versions of the game when you can have 2 really good ones with big communities instead of a handful of small ones
They need to do something with the Emerald portals
As much as part of me worries that the current team in charge of WoW wouldn't have what it takes to pull it off, I still can't deny how much I would pay to see this. So many incomplete ideas, so much lost potential - Hyjal, various dungeons that never came to be realized, and of course everything that was touched on in this video - and we have a unique opportunity to go back and see it all fleshed out now with the advent of Classic, if only Blizz would feel up to the task.
However, I think we all know it's never going to happen of course - most likely thing is they'll just release a new set of a servers for those interested in TBC and call it a day.
@Kid Icarus Exactly.. It'll be the same thing when they reverse the pruning in retail for the next xpac. They will just trickle a few old abilities back without creating the next evolution of class design and go "That's what you wanted, right?". They have no faith in themselves.
Id rather have this than re releasing expansions as well
Yikes this was so awesome! I still remember many of those myths and how we spent countless hours searching for them. The tiger cave was new to me though! Ahh, those were the days when fishing for the Ashbringer. Thanks for this and all of your videos man!
Now that I had a long week I’m rewarded with a mad season video on a nice Saturday afternoon
Quit wow like 5 years ago, but I always come back to your videos. New ones, and rewatching old ones. Amazing to watch and listen while I do other stuff like chores, or taking a walk etc. Dunno if you'll ever see this comment but wish you the best. Happy New year!
That 007 Goldeneye music though :D !!!
wooooo!
I thought I was hearing goldeneye music.
'Maybe if I try to go through the portal on a naked gnome with nothing but a banana in my inventory'
The classic Moon Guard strat.
How I had always thought the login portal is that we are in a dreary world, and then we see the portal to azeroth, and we go into the world of warcraft.
What i love about your channel is that, you will launch video of something i never thought or asked for, and enjoy every second of it, and this is another one, wasn't thinking about such theme, but hey, here is a new video, and man it's worth the time :)
Great video mate.
Greetings from Norway! love your vids man! keep up the good work!
man, dopefish brings back old memories.
I remember getting behind the instance portal of karazhan back in the day and there was a big smiley face under the building in the terrain.
I remember joining raid group with my guild to explore areas full of elite mobs. Good times when some areas were a secret.
The raid loot was reviled during BC on the community forums. If I recall correctly, it was randomly generated the moment the raid instance was created with the millisecond to a power being the variable that controlled random nature.
14:43 "...Outlandish theories"
I see what you did there
Thanks for mentioning my channel! Really cool video; I have always enjoyed exploring pre-Cataclysm world and wondering about the purpose or origins of some unusual locations. I am also so glad that the Emerald Dream was finally sort of added in Legion, it was a favourite place of mine.
the biggest myth: you think you do, but you don't
This is definitely the biggest myth, and the greatest irony.
You believing this is the most ironic thing
@@ericmartinez8344 and yet they dont even reach the sub numbers of bfa start...big deal...
I feel it depends more on the person. I personally thought it would be fun to try wow classic, but after a while I just didn't enjoy it as much as retail
second biggest: layering won't come back
The tiger dropped in original Zul Gurub, super low chance but there was an actual tiger, also there is a spectral tiger gained from the playing cards sets. Karazhan, in Wrath the devs started building the undercroft which in originality was as large below ground as it was above ground with tricks and traps and some pretty creepy furniture. You used to get a mage to sheep you through the doorway, was pretty cool.
The phrase "born again hardcore" comes from the movie Full Metal Jacket.
One of the weirder rumours I heard (more than once) was the the simultaneous death of all world bosses in vanilla would do 'something'
The Bengal tiger mount was a make-a-wish reward, I just saw a post about it on reddit a few days ago?
14:42 nice one madseason
How about this:
Make #ClassicWoWPlus , in which they would add/continue ALL that was planned from the beginning of vanilla !
Including, but not limited to most of the myths found in this video and all the incomplete quest lines / incomplete locations.
EDIT: If there are concerns with overlapping content of other expansions, we *could* consider this "the PLUS timeline".
Or just add it to current wow
Its really cool to think that back then people actually thought the devs would have made an entire zone that was almost impossible to access but all but the most determined players, like an in game hunt for a kind of holy grail or lost ark.
Hey what's up video guys here back with another MadSeason for you
I love the old Nintendo game music choices you use for your videos.
"The wowiest wow wow that ever wow wowed" - Wowington Wow Wow
Wow.
I started playing WoW around 3 months ago. Now binge watching your videos - so much to learn! :D
I tried to figure out that nude code for Tomb Raider so diligently....
In a way, I still am....
I still am.
your videos and especially your intro are really calming somehow. I have quit wow a long time ago but from time to time I like to pick up on whats new and how it develops. Your videos give great insight and somewhat bring back some memories.
Not gonna lie the Glaive thing still bothers me to this day, they're *the* iconic Night Elf unit used by their main frontline unit in Warcraft 3 and the Warden Hero unit used a circular glaive-type weapon, how it took all the way til BFA for anything like the three bladed glaive to come into the game boggles my mind.
And even then they fucked it up by making it demonhunter exclusive. It should have been a one handed weapon option from the beginning darnit
I wonder if the "definitely born again hardcore" was initially influenced by the quote in the movie Full metal jacket when the Drill instructor is speaking about private pile.
The biggest myth of WoW is that you have to min/max to get anywhere ;)
What?
@@canine_coach basically referring to people always saying you need this armour/build etc to do pvp/raids etc which is for the most part false.
What Kylu said ^^
Since classic came out, I realized that I was suffering reverse nostalgia. I remembered it as much harder and more aggravating that it really was.
Sadly
As a Mage u can Enter Karazan! I know because I did in classic jsut last week. You can Blink inside but there isnt anything to do there. You can chill behind the bars and thats it and if you are unlucky you fall through the map and respawn after a Crash right in front of the bars of Karazan
I wish rank 15 existed, so then I could be called “Deathlord of the Undercity”
Super Mario Sunshine in the end. Great memories!
And another great video! :)
Biggest myth not listed: Everquest 2, Vanguard, LotRO, Age of Conan, Warhammer, Aion, Darkfall, Tabula Rasa, Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online, Star Wars Old Republic, Black Desert, Final Fantasy 14, Runescape Update, All Points Bulletin, etc, were all going to kill WoW. 😂
I'm working on a game for my internship. And I have to focus on what I'm doing. But I can have a small floating player in the corner of one of my screens. But most videos are just way too distracting. I can't focus on what I'm doing. I can only watch your videos and actually hear what you're telling. And focus on the work I'm doing. I think your voice is really relaxing. And the jokes told really monotone. It's perfect. We call it 'dry humor' in dutch. And it's the best kind of humor.
Guys I found a mysterious dark portal in the blasted lands. Anyone have an idea what it is? Blizz might be planning something I’m so excited.
These days, just planning in sucking up to the Chinese government lol
For the Outland thing, you COULD get there by jumping out of bounds in certain instances. You were able to do in as late as Sunwell Plateau. It was a copy/paste of the EK map. Originally on the EK map, it was an island similar to GM Isle but there were bounds put up to block you. They omitted this from instance maps though. Shame too. Whenever you see "Original Outlands", you get the cheap crap of the Deadmines. There was a much bigger map available that got little attention
Wasn't the Bengal tiger added to the game recently for one player on the Make a Wish thing?
yep www.wowhead.com/news=295347/the-mystery-of-the-reins-of-the-bengal-tiger-mount-in-patch-8-2-5
Yeh, if it follows the same path as pepes whistle, it might become available to all players.
Did not expect to hear Dopefish being referenced after all of these years. Had no idea he did a video like this either even though I used to be a big fan...
GORREFFIELDDD!!!!
The Evolution of World of Warcraft Episode 3 anytime soon? :D
Love how you used the Goldeneye Dam OST. Worked so well
7:00 Is that...a song from the nintendo 64 007 original soundtrack?? Or am I going crazy lol
N64*
sit back, crack a breew, its a new madseasonshow videeo
Now gotta wait for the baldman to watch this^
Ew
The Fist of the Deity was my favorite-looking weapon. I loved it on my rogue, especially after they made it one-hand instead of main hand (which meant you couldn't dual wield it and it always looked unbalanced until the change). Then they changed it years later and I couldn't use it anymore. Can't remember why exactly, maybe because it was either sword or dagger and I was specced for the opposite on my rogue. But combining that with the Assassination set looked awesome. I always thought it looked glaive-like.
Karazhan WAS enterable at one point in time in vanilla --- during the TBC prepatch. The mobs inside are level 69-70, they dropped netherweave and high level green/blue gear as well. I led a gdkp group to farm the place back then.
"[...] or happiness existing" that hurt
The best one is number one LOL, the fact that they actually made u do all the things people tried over the years for the pure version just to obtain the new alternate corrupted version, that is so sick lol.
"Outlandish" theories. Hahaha. Classic.
I finally get why the reference of "Dopefish" was used for the exploration channel name.
I would love if blizzard added all the myth stuff to "Classic" wow, that would be so great!
Then it wouldn’t be classic
Back in Classic, I heard a rumor that druids could change their aquatic form into a shark through a quest in Theramore. I was devastated upon realizing it was false.
so banned for exploiting something they wouldnt have had if GM hadnt screwed up... was the GM reprimanded or was the player the only one who saw punishment?
Why should the GM be punished? It was an exceedingly small chance of happening honest mistake that they probably didn't even realize until it was too late. The player who had the GM item knew what the effect did and willingly chose to exploit it over and over, so they're the ones who get punished.
Always some people defending exploiting because "it's not their fault that it's possible".
Just like the people who find something on a street and are very surprised that they face theft charges if they keep it. "It's not my fault. They shouldn't have lost it!"
Or all these people "accidentally" getting their whole account worth of cash from the ATM with swapped notes by mistake. "But that's not my fault, they should have fixed it. I didn't even know anything is wrong. I just happened to withdraw 1000$, then put 2000 back into my account and withdraw them again. Pretty normal. What do you mean to pay it back. No. It's mine now. No, that's not stealing, officer, it's not my fault, it's their fault. Why should I be reprimanded for their mistakes?!"
How did the GM screw up though?
I was the guild luck token in vanilla/BC. Regular raid member was arrested in Vanilla and left a spot open. I was only 60 online who in guild who wasn't already in the raid (and attuned). So My Boomkin got the invite. They didn't know what to do, since the guy I was replacing was normally who zoned in first and I wasn't aware of this.
I showed up and said sorry for making everyone wait on me, and ran into portal. Ended up getting better loot than they normally did (the boomkin buff was also apreciated by everyone) and I ended up becoming the new luck token going forward.
I haven't even seen the video, I automatically press like
Dude the “nerdgasm” sound after the glaives made me spit out my water!!
apparently the ashbringer thing is such a prevalent myth, I just learned that it wasn't in the game in classic from this video, I joined in Cataclysm.
DalmatianDash sorry you didn’t get to experience good wow
HEY! Thats when i joined too!! Right on, man!
I remember playing Vanilla (around 2006) and seeing an Admin in The Crossroads in the Northern Barrens riding a Bengal Tiger. Blew my mind.
I feel like some of the rumors were actually started by blizzard to encourage dedicated players to keep sinking time into these goosechases. Ashebringer especially. Easier to make 2 sentences in a fishing book and suck up hours of subs while they worked on actual content.
@Josh derp There have always been Easter eggs and hidden bits in game. But I agree that teasing with large non-existing zones is a bit trollish/griefer for old WoW.
another myth people believed was that you could unlock flying mounts if you grinded Wildhammer rep to exalted.
Someone has showed up online with the Bengal tiger.
make a wish kid mount
@@sixfootgiant14 That's shit man.
@@sixfootgiant14 not make a wish, but that kids not gonna make it.
Just know his lifespan has been severely reduced due to the grind.
plz make more videos, I don't even care what about its just nice to learn random stuff from a chill guy while playing WoW
Im still wondering when Guitar Pro 7 is gonna copyright flag everyone one of your videos for your intro theme. Ballzy move @madseasonshow
IRT the emerald dream - there was a PTR where various commands were left enabled, to include the worldport command. You could port to any world zone in the game, to include the ED. So we had a bunch of people running around that zone. Super fun.
IRT Dopefish’s video, it was done on a live server but with heavy model editing.
Did anyone ever put it together about those two "Artifact Items" ? Martin THUNDER and Martin FURY ........... Did someone say?
Dude I totally remember the city protector thing. I mean I forgot all about it until you reminded me but it was a crazy time lol.