Jeep Wrangler: Turn Signal Stops Working When The Headlights Are On
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In this video I have a look at a customers Jeep Wrangler with the big 3.6 that has a customer complaint that the turn signal works until you turn on the headlights. At that point the light goes out completely. Sounds like a typical Chrysler/Jeep bad ground to me 😏
-Enjoy!
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Eric O, I've been a subscriber for a looong time and really enjoy your content. But is that last sticker really necessary?
@@nicholaspaul4847 I agree, there is no need for it. Do no harm and live and let live. Like Eric says himself @9:11
Aren’t you you going to take it for a “toot”
I'm a huge fan of the channel and the last sticker threw me off a bit - I didn't expect that from Eric.
I Just Say You Are A Good mechanic I wish you were here in California. But the mechanics out here are very bad they don't really take the time to look at the cars and trucks. I just want to say you're not going to cannock and I love you videos. I have learned a lot from watching your videos and asking questions. Thank you
Lady with a Jeep here- perfect fix to my problem. Solved in an afternoon. Very much appreciated!!!!!!!
I'm a subscriber of the female variety, and I love watching your videos. Honestly, I don't care when you talk about the "fellas", or when you say "there's your problem, lady!" I find that last bit super funny. That aside, I have learned so much from watching your videos, especially the ones where you run down electrical issues... I've gotten better at diagnosing issues by following your techniques. Thank you for all your great videos, even the ones you think are silly. Every one of them teaches something new!
Soldering it plus the fluid film will certainly push this repair past the life expectancy of that Chrysler by-product. Great repair as usual Mr. O!
Nothing lasts long in the rust belt 🙄
@@sheerwillsurvival2064 Sure does. Rust.
I thought they are called Stellantis?
@@wolfgangpreier9160 😂 right
@@wolfgangpreier9160 I find my Jeeps have always done good. But I no longer live in the rust belt
“If only I could see where I wrote the note for the eye appointment”! Lol, sounds like me.
Hilarious Sarcasm...just one of the many services offered here at South Main Auto! 😆😅🤣😂🤣😅😆
The solder will last longer than the Jeep. Heck, it will probably last longer than Stellantis. Thanks, Eric!
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The sticker will last longer than the Jeep.
DIY Dave... need another Corolla video. Find that oil use!!!
@@Ram14250 The Corolla has been good! That's my daughter's car, but she is telling me she's hearing some braking noise that could just be pads or *might* be a bearing. Not sure. If it's a bearing I will DEFINITELY do a video as I haven't had much to release lately since I did the oil change on the Tacoma and the transmission fluid on the Lexus! Need some content (curse of a part-time UA-camr) 😁
Your experience is impressive. I think you only showed the wiring diagram for our benefit because I don’t think you needed it. You found that bad ground in no time. And the way you repaired it was the same way I would. Nice work.
honestly I think he shows the diagram to head off stupid comments by interweb know-it-alls. Unfortunately those types will always find something to run someone else down for.
@@donakahorse Mouthwrenches 😊
I agree, but he already knew that it was a bad ground because of the dim light. We are taught that electricity runs from positive to negative but ? Electricity much like water is always looking for the easiest path to ground and without that it can be manipulated and or weakened.
Yeah luckily even chryslers breakdowns and failures are reliable! Lol
Yep........not his first rodeo,,,or 50th Man knows his way around a vehicle. Absolutely one of the best there is.
Always entertaining.. And I love how Mrs O answers from across the shop when she barely knows what you said... funny.
I am so surprised that the ground lug was up top at the front of the vehicle! Chrysler loves to put them at the bottom where all the salt spray can get to them! Good solder job! Thank you Eric and Mrs. O. for the entertainment! 😁
You ain't lying. My buddy's 2016 Cherokee left him stuck on the side of the road. The engine just died and would not start back up. After looking at it, there was a (what used to be) ground strap just corroded to the point of dust in the upper inner wheel well. Brilliant placement.. 🙄
found this video posted in a forum after constant trial and error attempts to fix my intermittent blinker. You've saved me one more headache with my '08!
OH Eric!! Oh baby! That was fantastic. Absolutely beautimus... the crimping, the soldering, the lead smoke, the fluid film! Let me lay here for a few to catch my breath!
The ONLY thing that matters...and sir I do mean the ONLY thing that matters is that Mrs. O is happy. That said I have to say the sticker "Prtected by manual transmission " is classic! Nice job.
I am a 39 year master tech 13 years at Chrysler ( factory trained) and the rest at BMW,Toyota and Nissan. I will say that BMW and Toyota focused their attention to their electrical training and engineering,Chrysler didn’t but my understanding of wiring diagram’s did elevate me to shop Forman and a better pay check. Great video always enjoyable and your sense of humor is so cool. 😎😎😎😎
wiring diagrams
@@NoName-zn1sb would you accept wiring schematics?
@@johnrpizzaguy
@ No Name is having a snark at the superfluous apostrophe 😊
I can understand why BMW focuses their training on Electrical! lollll They are filled with electrical issues! lolllll
What connector did he use
OMG you did NOT insulate that connector properly. J.K.
Long time viewer here thanks for the videos !!!
One of the more enjoyable UA-camrs to watch due mainly to the ongoing commentary, very experienced mechanic is a bonus 👍
HERE YOU GO AGAIN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,VERY FUNNY AS FUNNY AS IT CAN BE.
YOU HAVE THE GREATEST ATTITUDE ON DOING THE JOB IN VERY INTERESTED WAY, AND THE MOST PROFESSIONAL AND TECHNICAL KNOWLEGE I HAVE SEEN IN MY 76 YEARS OF LIFE.
POWER TO YOU; JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MAN IS A GREAT WOMEN, SIR YOU HAVE A JEWEL ON YOUR HAND. PLEASE REWARD HERE EVEY CHANCE YOU GET.
MRS. O THANKS A BILLION FOR BEING AN EXAMPLE TO HUMANITY.
Before your appointment with the optometrist, you should know that standard trifocals don't work well under a car, and they are poor for welding and cutting, too. The reason is they rely on the assumption that when you're looking at something up close, you're looking down. Under the lift, you're looking up, not down! It's awkward to find a way to move your head into a position to look down on everything, and I find them confusing while welding. You want something closer to safety readers for work, and maybe trifocals when you're not working. Trifocals can be designed to work well for computer use, which might be a suboptimal compromise.
Guaranteed repair, 5 years or the end of the driveway, whichever comes first.
Thanks for sharing.
When you stripped the insulation off of the big wire you cut a circle around it to sever the insulation, so technically you circumcised the wire, as the term literally means circular cut. Now you can boast of a new service to your customers! Great video as usual!
====o Snip!
Uh.....errrr......I think the NY State medical licensing people MIGHT have something to say about Eric offering that particular service!😮
You should see the video of circumcising a battleship.
Hey, its just a snip... until he slips!
@@markh.6687 Do long as he states it's vehicular circumcision so there isn't any confusion.....
Your repair on the wiring looked better than factory. Only thing I would have done differently would have been to add a small piece of heat shrink to the connection area after lube. This would keep moisture out and lube in.
Being an individual of the lady variety, I'm sure there isn't a lot of us that watch, but we do.
I like it when he says "there's your problem, lady!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's your problem, lady.
As you should be able to do without comment or stigma. Logical thinking doesn't have a gender.
Guy just shoot the pars cannon from the hip first, then take it to a mechanic. 😅
She ain’t no lady!
Between Ivan (Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics), Keith (New Level Auto) and yourself, that pretty much covers some of the best in electrical diagnostics.
Congrats on nearly 800K subs and on your way to 1M.
Diagnosedan
My cousin and I flipped cars as teenagers. When someone asked about our guarantee, we told them we offered a taillight guarantee. As long as we can see your taillights, it's guaranteed.
Thank you including us ladies! I’ve watched u since u started! I’ll be overriding the VATS chip in my 90’s Corvette probably this weekend! 😊
Nice job on the solder repair. I could see the solder flow on camera. That repair will outlast the vehicle.
as someone told me once, "don't ever assume someone knows what you know". Don't feel that you are diminishing us in any way thinking we know what you know. We dont't. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here. :) Love the content.
Well said. He should quit using ‘assume’ for ‘presume’. He knows his stuff.
I'm so broke I can't pay attention. But I'm trying to catch a damn clue nonetheless...or Moore (ha ha not funny 😑)
@@AndieZ4U2
Agreed. Lol
The fact that a frame repair kit is available for those heeps should tell you all that you need to know! Best part of it is that sticker!
To be fair though, the frames on all of them from the early CJs on up are one of the weak points.
@@commietube_censorship_sucks That is mainly due to the steel alloy they used and that crappy coating they devised that holds the salt in. I remember when the first imports hit here in the late 60's and 70's and the cars like the Datsuns and Toyotas that would be totally rotted out in under 10 years because they used a lighter steel alloy. As for the Jeep frames. They were C channel just like most others until recently. They still rot out very fast. But you can get new frames relatively cheap. The aftermarket has gotten to the point now that you can build a complete Jeep CJ without using a single OEM part! (You can also do that with some classic cars, like the model T or A or the Tri5 Chevies and even some others.
@@commietube_censorship_sucks They had a couple boxed areas but most were just stamped C channel with riveted joints. The supposed idea was it allowed them to flex better.
The DJ was built a little better than the CJ as it was a contract vehicle.
Saw a sticker on an armored car today: "Protected by Smith & Wesson".
@@markh.6687 I have that sticker on my toolbox!
I'm chasing ground connections in my newly-acquired 43' enclosed trailer, so I feel your pain. Thanks!
You taking the time to properly repair a bad ground connection took me back to my early days of trouble shooting tube guitar amplifiers. Start cutting corners here and you're just asking for trouble in the future... 🙂
"Breathe the smoke deep".......lmao
I specifically watch this channel for the banter and come away with some valuable automotive repair knowledge as a bonus.
I had this happen in the early 80's while driving a milk truck. That was how I learned what a failed ground looks like, and how to check it.
I’ve breathed that stuff for 50 years! Maybe that’s why I watch you! Crazy loves company!!!
I approve of soldering and crimping. I would have done the same thing on my vehicle. That electrical connection will out live the vehicle.
I discovered this channel by finding a previous video on this same problem that popped up on my wife's 2011 Wrangler.
Eric after watching you for the last few years. We all trust you 101. I have a decent garage which I trust but even sometimes they make me think FFS.
I bought a used Jeep and the guy said the local garage quoted him $500 to fix. Watched your video and fixed it myself in about 20 minutes. You rock!
I watched the Prius rear brake video in prep for my day in the garage with "Percy", my admittedly non-masculine but much-valued hybrid. Its purpose in life is to keep commuter, grocery and errand miles off of my expensive truck. Many days/miles between fuel stops doesn't hurt either.
Afterward, I stayed on your channel to watch this Jeep turn signal troubleshooting and ground replacement video as well.
It's appreciated by this male viewer that you aim the camera at the work being done for 99% of your videos and only chat into the camera for short times to keep the vids friendly and personal. So many vids these days are guys being movie stars who constantly show their face at arm's length (or closer!) and their pointing/waving arm & hand gestures in the frame more than whatever is the subject of their video.
It very much appears that you know what you're doing, showed me a couple of tricks with the brake bleed by making use of the Prius' electrically-pressurized brake system (instead of fighting it) and both soldered and spray sealed the ground connection on this Jeep. I like learning from someone who is willing to fix somebody else's vehicle as though it were their own and who doesn't want to deal with the very same problem again later because they said "good enough" before completing a job properly the first time.
Have been servicing all of my own machinery since high school in the mid-70s, but still find it encouraging to see someone else go through the steps on screen while I have a cup of coffee and get my game face on for a day in the garage. Then I head out to roll around on a sheet of cardboard with rust flecks falling down my collar and turn the wrenches with a fresh review of a job I haven't done in awhile and maybe even a new trick or two.
Well done! Pleasant and informative. Subscriber count = +1.
Every time I hear a horn beep, I say, "Hey, it's Eric!" Thanks for your videos. I watch each and every one of them, even when you replaced the cables on your hoist.
Hey Mr Eric O. I think you're totally not like our government. Fun to watch and I always learn something. AND you don't solder bad.
But I can help you with one small thing. When I was building electronic parts we learned to "tin" the ends of the wires first, before crimping or connecting.
Tinning is just adding some solder to the stripped end. It makes a way stronger never cold joint after the final solder to the junction.
If I can do it, you can do it. Cheers.
Dang Skippy you found that one quick and fixed it very quick dang good😊
Crimp looked factory to me!! Why would anyone question that repair? Great Job thank you!!
I love how you troll the trolls. Keep it up Eric O , another fantastic video
Gotta give them something to complain about 😂😂😂
@@coache1nine “ they got what they paid for “
- Eric O
Sure helps out the comment section! 😂
2 things Mr O,
1st is this is a family channel, no stripping permitted, lol.
2nd, your repair is better than factory. If it were factory it wouldn’t last.
Otherwise another great video, thanks!
That is the best fix and workmanship that I have seen in weeks. That includes Ivan from PHAD.
I love how vice grips have their own sound....still use them at least once every project...
Soldering and Fluid Film, couldn't be happier! Perfect, better than factory repair. Here in Canada I would spray with ACF50 or Krown, but, you gotta work with what you have, eh!
Comparing Chrysler grounds to the government is the reason I’m here. Keep up the great work!
I used to work on a lot of 80s Chrysler products. Number 1 problem? Yep, bad grounds. Followed closely by bad hall effect pickup in the distributor. Some folks took to keeping a spare in the glovebox. 🤣
I had a camshaft position sensor code pop on my '97 Cherokee. Was like WTF? there's no overhead cam in this thing, with a position sensor!
Yep - has that same exact hall effect sensor inside the distributor, and that was the cause of the code. It has to synchronize with the crankshaft position sensor for the computer to be happy.
DD DD DD 99 times out of a 100 if you keep a spare you will never need it
Eric! Great Job! Exactly how I do it. Perfect. The only time I ever got in trouble soldering a wire on a car was: ON MY OWN VEHICLE I soldered the eye on the end of the big wire going to my GM alternator. It had broken, so when I put a new eye on it I soldered it, but it broke in about 2 weeks again. That was because it was a 5.7Liter Diesel. Remember the 350 cid Olds V8 they turned into a Diesel? It vibrated a lot way out at the alternator. So on my 2nd attempt I anchored the wire to about 10 things along the way out to the alternator and that was that. Excellent touch with your shot of Fluidflm. Rust belt benny/ michigan
I remember changing the starter on my olds diesel. That thing was huge lol.
my guess was that there was an LED bulb involved since they can make older cars misbehave. definitely learned how to chase a ground. thanks eric!
“Marine” heat shrink (incorporating a heat sensitive glue) over the wire and terminal all the way up to the terminal ring can extend the life of the ground point. And a good cleaning of the ground stud will also help. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks for this post! Been chasing this dim signal/no-signal-with-headlights for a few weeks now. Figured bad ground, but with that wire spaghetti behind the pass side headlight, didn't quite know where to start tracing the root cause. With this info, I at least was able to run a temp jumper to that post, and permanent repair forthcoming once I get the new lug!
I own this one. 2013JK2D and have taken apart the whole Jeep about 3 times so far but I have not fixed that one yet. Thanks for showing me yet another fix and yes I solder all mine back as well. I will say that after I have replaced the suspension, The D30, the shocks, the brakes with a Big brake kit, the control arms with core4x4 HD, The drive shafts, The draglink, the tie rod and trackbar with Steersmarts 1.5 ton HD, The steering with PSC Big bore steering box, the plastic bumpers, ALL the cheap ass lights with JW Speakers, The Radiator, hoses, plugs etc.. the tires and rims and too many other little things to list. The Jeep is perfect now. Runs like a well balanced top. Only cost me about another 15K+ on top of the price of the Jeep. At least mine didn't have the rocker arm issue.
That was a very appropriate ground fix considering it’s a Chrysler . On par with some VW wiring I have fixed in the past.
I have this exact issue even the driver side signal not as bright , and will use this as my guide. Thank you
Thanks for the information I just had my 2011 wrangler ground fixed the horn and front fender markers lights went out bad ground I was thinking that since I had the jeep Woolwax That maybe it was the Woolwax that was causing bad ground Now I know it wasn`t that but the nature of the beast
You gotta love a guy who knows about Bubble Boy. Bright and Shiny!
Darn amazing that Jeep has to skimp on wiring as simple as this ! Seems like the newer vehicles are the more they are designed by the third grade students.
I approve of the wiring repair and method in this video. It's way better than it was on the assembly line.
It’s not that bad ! it may be crap but at least you don’t have to roll the car over to find it !
Every part of Chrysler changed for the worse when Daimler got involved. The simple ways that worked were tossed out for the "Lets use 50 parts to do what 3 normally do" mentality.
The wiring in cars today is so thin I always think of Mad's parody of "The Towering Inferno", where one character says they had to save money on the wiring. The 2nd character asked what they used; the 1st guy replies "Tinsel!".
Great video!!! Simple but very effective repair!!
Great fix! Soldering is the key to longevity.
People might say you did it wrong because what they would do is just strip all the wire, wrap it a few times on the stud, and just bolt onto the loose wires like that!
Great fix with the right way!
Your videos give me a lot of confidence to diagnose my own electrical problems. love the channel
Oh man thank you for this video! I’m currently administering hospice care to my 2012 Wrangler and having this exact problem. Thanks to you she won’t die on me just yet!
You should use monovision contacts. One is for reading and one for distance. Some people can't do it but I love it.
Good job, Eric! The only thing I would do differently, would be to use two terminals - a big one for the big wire and a smaller one for the other 5 wires, and I would also solder them for reliability.
Exactly. Never been happy with grossly dissimilar wire sizes in a single connector
@@robertharris2262 Yep, the thin ones are not easy to crimp along with the thick wire, and stresses are always on the thin side. Of course, soldering ensures a good connection, even with a looser crimp.
I don’t that type lugs , because they are hard to crimp. But as always you did a great job. Your expertise,once again prevails. Your awesome.
Exact issue I'm having! Figured better search UA-cam before I dig in... UA-cam is best tool I have in my garage. Thank you!
Never disappointed watching you do your thing, Mr. O. Still lurking, always watching but rarely commenting, I am. Thanks for all the fish... 🐟
You are an automotive electrical genius...sir!! Love the video!
Looks like what I used to do when I was working, nothing wrong with that repair!!
Oh my goodness, the brightness of that bulb now.
Just spent 17 minutes of my life not necessary learning how to strip wire and put a new eye on but spent 17 minutes waiting for your sarcasm on various subjects and you didn't disappoint...
Cool Hand Eric- "What we have here is a failure to terminate."
LOL
Eric continues to bring us all together in 2023..people..wires..it's all about unity and being well grounded.Way to go Mr. O 😎✌🇨🇦
Thanks for the video. I had been having the same issue on my 2009 Wrangler. I suspected the ground and had that same ground off and cleaned it. I have been trying to learn more about the electrical side but was close to giving up on this one. I saw your video and went back to the garage and took that ground connection apart and replaced and soldered the connection. It works fine now. Thanks again.
you telling mrs.O "there getting what they pay for" bout fell out my seat laughing soo hard!! oh yea nice job on the ground...
Love the subtle humor everyone should be equal its 2023. You make it look so easy. Respect
G'day Eric, I have a mate here in Oz who bought a collectable car, spent many hours fixing the appearance, and then set off for a bi-annual interstate event for these cars. He only got an hour down the road before having to return home because the engine was running rough. He was really down in the mouth about wasting his time and money on this car. I have an Autel that I bought after watching many of your videos, and along with the knowledge you've shared I was able to diagnose a faulty O2 sensor. When he replaced the sensor the car became the best thing since sliced bread. "It really hammers!" So, many thanks to you for your knowledge sharing. It really helps others. South Main Auto rocks!!!
Your trouble shooting, logic and path to diagnose the problem is amazing! doing the research first as you say is so important, question is where is the best place to get the necessary info say for someone who is only taking care of their own and family vehicles??
My first thought was a bad ground.
On my 77 E150, I had to run separate ground wires to both front turn signals to keep them working. Also had an issue with the horn losing power.
Ever since Jeep fixed their leaking rear main seal issues there has been a lot more ground wire corrosion issues.
Eric. As a 50+ year electronic Tech, you used your strippers wrong. One side is flat & one side has a taper. Always use the flat side toward thew end of the wire. Strips much easier. Tapered side make the insulation compress against the wire like a brake caliper & requires much more force to strip it. You are still TOPS in my book!!
You'll probably get more comments for calling everybody Gents then you would have jamming a yellow eyelet connector with the wires wadded in it and then crimped to the point where the yellow plastic falls off. I've been twisting the iron for 31 years and if somebody can do it better be my guest because so far it's been working for me. PS I would have repaired it exactly as you did... have a marvelous weekend!
Definitely not that first video of yours where the dreaded G102 ground was at fault but I think it is the most accessible of the ones you’ve repaired.😬🍺
My comment. You fixed it. Your grounded. Your electrons flow freely.
Every time I hear Mrs O I have the thought the Boss is out in the shop so you better be doing the job right.
If that ground looks like that imagine the rest of them lol. I knew it was a ground also. You said it at the same time as me. Love you're videos Mr. O
This is a fun channel to watch….coming from a “not-a-mechanic” in not salty-road Texas…
been watching you for yrs-always reminded me of someone--just watched tremors-😊.
as a 07 jkur owner and having many jeep friends this is a common repair ive done on all of the stud grounds in the engine compartment along that rail there. theres also one on the bottom of the block on the 3.8 with the ground from the battery that has 4 in it and last but not least lets not forget the 2 on each kick panel in the front....i agree with u about the chevy grounds....
You made me want to be a mechanic and now I am thank you
Nice. You said I had to explain how you did it wrong.... I think you should have relocated each ground separately to a different corner of the vehicle, Like left front should be grounded to the right rear, yeah that's it! Oh, and also use a different color for each one with plenty of extra wire hanging around!
New to Chrysler didn't know that they had ground issues lost control of my headlights and no turn signal but flashers work and headlights tun on low with engine crank I like your delivery and work I am subscribing to the channel and going to garage and see what I can
Thanks Brother
Back in the days of bayonet bulbs, I had one where they replaced a 1157 dual filament with a single filament bulb. The tip bridged the two connections in the plug. They also damaged the socket as a 1157 has the bayonet tips at different depths vs. a single filament bulb.
I've seen that a couple of times - replacing a dual filament for single filament and vice-versa. Not easy to diagnose. I've since always checked for the correct bulb on any weird light issue.
"Always In A Heep". Great Chrysler wiring strikes again!
Jeeps have had lousy grounds dating back to the 80’s. I redid all of the grounds on my 88 Cherokee including the all the sensor ground splices.
"HONK" "Hey, it's that guy!" 😅 Gets me every time. BTW, I'm easily entertained.
"This vehicle is protected by a manual transmission" I got a laugh out of that.
I have an 08 with the same issue from ohio here.thanks for sharing