Zelenskyy Back-Stabbed His Own People | Dr. Nicolai Petro
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- As the West is caught in its own delusional moral hubris, chances to make peace between Russia and Ukraine are being missed again and again. The biggest obstacle at this point are the pervasive myths that the West is telling itself to justify pushing for war instead of contemplating real negotiations.
Nicolai Petro is a Professor of Political science at the University of Rhode Island and has published the wonderful work “The Tragedy of Ukraine: What Classical Greek Tragedy Can Teach Us About Conflict”.
He recently published a short essay entitled “Four Myths That are Preventing Peace in Ukraine”. We want to discuss that one and later also the changes in the military situation, which apparently is leading to a change in the western narrative about Russian capabilities.
when you start with a lie, you need to keep lying more and more.. without any stopping... Nato's position unenvious
AGREED
No, when you start with lies , you will end up with lies.
But Zel is not working for Ukr, he's working for America.
He is the president of Cokeraine 🤧
Best paid actor ever.
Biden Family possibly but no Americans want this crap….except evil politicians & their evil donors.
He was as first experience as president, threatened by the coupmakeres in 2014 to be annihilated together with his family if he continued seeking peace with Donbas and Russia.
Sold his soul to the devil.@@magnarhusby2444
Mr. Petro is well aware of the situation in Ukraine one of a select few, a tip of the hat to him for living in reality.
I don't understand why he has to think so hard to say such nothing.
Zero substance
Why hasn't this expert included in his multiple factors, that the mayor's on the Donas asked for Russian military help?
briliant question
Dobas
The mayor of Kyiv also asked for military help, as did Zelenskyy and many others. Some factors matter, some do not.
The NATO thing is important, but first and initially it was protecting the Russians in the east. Putin has specified this after the Tucker Carlson interview.
A lot of those russians in the east joined the army to fight the ruzzians!
Again a very inspiring discussion. The question remains for me, why any of those politicians and journalists who have so far supported the NATO narrative should change their positions? They would have to admit that they were dishonest, and nobody likes to admit anything like this.
I have a déjà vu.
They won't change their positions or admit anything, but will just move on. Just as Afghanistan vanished from the news cycle "overnight" so will Ukraine. It never happened, look at this kitty, isn't it cute. With the (s)election in the US coming up there will be more than enough distractions.
Their is no NATO narrative. Their is only fact and fiction. What exactly is your example of the NATO narrative?
@@DomAtaGlance nobody can answer that
Tio answer that, he would have to admit that he was a bit dishonest, and nobody likes to admit anything like this.
Does anyone think that there is democracy in America? yeah it's just funny 😄
True, democracy is funny.
But dictatorship is hell.
Fun people prefer fun and devils prefer hell.
Mailmen win the elections.
Very good and balanced video with an initial mistake of considering Ukraine a democracy!
How is that a mistake? Ukraine has been a democracy since it's inception, it holds free and fair elections, it has a parliament made up of representatives elected by the citizens of Ukraine. What more do they need to do for you to admit that they are in fact a democracy
Elections and freedom of the press.
Don't be surprised, this is Russian propaganda channel
It wasn’t invasion. It was saving itself as a nation, as a culture, as a civilization. Thanks to Russia the world is free and will remain free.
The invasion started in 2011, when Russian ships moved into makeshift docks on the southeast coast of Crimea, 3 years before the referendum , that's illegal , and 8 years before Zelenskyy was even elected. They did it that way because the Crimean Bridge hadn't been built yet . This couldn't have been done without a corrupt Pro-Russian government in place , one that refused to join NATO. If NATO was pushing on Russian Borders, it had nothing to do with Ukraine at that time. After 2014, you can't blame Ukraine for changing their strategy. Having a Pro-Russian government in place in 2011 should have been good enough for Russia but it wasn't. They clearly weren't a neutral government as Russia would have you believe. Russia wants the sea , period , that's their motive .
Stupid analysis.
the fac the Dnieper- nothing to do with it.donbas basin and Crimea is the source of massive oil, gas and mineral reserves has
nothing to do with it, Adter all what is Ukraine doing that the Baltic states are not,
@@georgesibley7152The Baltic states collectively have about 6 million people....they really are no threat and do not have armed forces strong enough to defend missile bases. Ukraine is the largest country in Europe and has/had a population of 45 million people, more than enough to develop a huge army and readily defend missile bases. It is NATO missile bases that would be placed in Ukraine that would most definitely threaten Russia with a nuclear option. This is all about Russia's security, just as the USA would think of its security.
@@MrLeadb1 Ukraine too is no threat,
Googolplex congratulations to President Putin for his next 6 years of Presidency, from us Indian.
In his wristwatch he will see the demise of Biden, demise of next president Trump, Poor macron, Poor Sounak, poor german Sholtz, Justinder of Canada of course. And for sure, the demise of EU.
A very important thought: if you believe deep inside that NATO is a defensive aliance and they wear the good guys' hats its nearly impossible to change this belief with however many facts that prove the opposite.
Changing hats is very painful.
You misunderstand the label of defensive alliance. It is true that NATO has acted as an organization to offensively strike places like Yugoslavia. The dynamic of the alliance that makes it defensive is article 5 which is a defensive article. It states that I'm event of an attack on one country all others in the alliance are urged to come to that nations defence. Article 5 is the only portion of NATO that worries Putin or anyone. In that regard they fear the defensive portion of the alliance
@@DomAtaGlance this is what Noam Chomsky thinks about the nature of NATO: ua-cam.com/video/RiA9PtTLi-Q/v-deo.html
It's quite long, but it is worth it. Chomsky is a veteran of the anti-war movement, and he is not pro-Putin at all. Absolutely.
And some ideas from me: what Putin didn't want was the actual NATO bases, weapons and military specialists and experts (if not troops) on the territory of Ukraine. But they were there since 2014. Find prof. Mearsheimer's ideas about it. He sais Ukraine was not in Nato de jure but it was a de facto NATO country with all the attributes, except probably the missiles along the Russian border.
Please also find the NYT article about the CIA spy bases in Ukraine along the Russian border. They say it openly: we used the Ukrainians to spy over Russia and we did it at least since 2014.
@@DomAtaGlance NATO is making sure that France, Germany, Spain and Sweden do not fight each other. Like they did every 25 years or so, for the last 1500 years....
That's a positive thing.
Calm and measured. Very clear. Many thanks to Dr Petro.
Calm and bullshit
The Ukrainians are not Zelenskyy's people, Nuland and the Ashkenazi tribe are.
Really you forget Russia push nuland and the Ashkenazi Tribes out of Ukraine 🇺🇦 in 2014
They accuse Russia of trying to reform the Russian Empire. Which may be true. But alternatively, was someone trying to reform Khazaria?
@@023achilles you should remind the people of Russia that the government killed the king and the queen and the children so they can’t have no more empire because they killed the king somewhere around WW1 the Russia killed the King so no one can be a king now cause they killed him only You can have empire to have the real King with the blood in his veins does not have any blood in his veins. He got Hitler blood in his veins because he’s doing everything or Hitler dead you know what happened to Hitler he lost the war right
@023achilles HaHa. Exactly. The Ashkenazi Khazars, hate Russia because they destroyed Khazaria. The hate is very deep. They've convinced, brainwashed most Americans into fearing and hating Russia, and Russians have never done anything to the USA.
"Steiner.... Yes! YES! STEINER WILL LEAD THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE! IT WILL ALL BE FINE! FINE! (trembling hands removes glasses)" - a line from Mr Zelens'kyj's favourite movie.
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"The war has ended, not necessarily to the advantage of Japan"
- Emperor of Japan addressing the nation after (un)conditional capitulation in 1945
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Mr Zelens'kyj's swan song.
I am standing alone on the stage in front of the drawn curtain.
The empty prompter's booth... and box-office.
Deafening silence.
No limelight. No applause. No flowers.
Disappointed audience have left me a long time ago.
A cleaner is about to finish his work.
The piano lid has slammed shut.
Unbearable pain has brought me back to my senses.
The show is over.
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"When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become king. But the palace becomes a circus!" - Turkish proverb
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"Put him on stage and remove a ladder" - Chinese proverb referring to bad performers.
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"There was once a comedian who killed people with stolen jokes and was hanged by his wits' end." - H.Warner
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"How pathetic the jester is, on the king's throne,
How stupid the people who allowed it."
- Robert Burns 1759-1796
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Пане Зеленський, сподіваюся, ви ще пам'ятаєте старе прислів'я рідною мовою:
"Не по Сеньке шапка."
Незабаром Україна стане однією великою Малинівкою.
Втішає те, що Європа та Америка йдуть тим самим шляхом.
До таких політичних проходимців і невдах, як Рютте, Джонсон, місіс Траст i... дo Вас пане Президенте, приєднаються Шольц, Бербок, Трюдо, Сунак і дідусь Джо. Почнуться взаємні звинувачення. Hа зміну обіймам i усмішкам прийдуть удари в спину.
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“Ukraine shouldn’t sign anything with them at all - and let’s just fight.” - Boris Johnson, Kyiv on Apr. 9, 2022
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"Росія хотіла припинити війну в обмін на нейтральний статус України, який зобов'язав би Київ ніколи не вступати в НАТО.
Водночас «коли ми повернулися зі Стамбула, приїхав Борис Джонсон до Києва і сказав, що ми взагалі нічого не підписуватимемо з ними - і давайте будемо просто воювати." - Давид Арахамія, в інтерв’ю Наталії Мосійчук (25 листопада 2023)
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"Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has strongly rejected the claims that he interfered with peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia in the spring of 2022." - Kyiv Post, January 11, 2024
Zelenskyy is a play .
A very bad and evil one.
"Steiner.... Yes! YES! STEINER WILL LEAD THE COUNTEROFFENSIVE! IT WILL ALL BE FINE! FINE! (trembling hands removes glasses)" - a line from Mr Zelens'kyj's favourite movie.
*
"The war has ended, not necessarily to the advantage of Japan"
- Emperor of Japan addressing the nation after (un)conditional capitulation in 1945
*
Mr Zelens'kyj's swan song.
I am standing alone on the stage in front of the drawn curtain.
The empty prompter's booth... and box-office.
Deafening silence.
No limelight. No applause. No flowers.
Disappointed audience have left me a long time ago.
A cleaner is about to finish his work.
The piano lid has slammed shut.
Unbearable pain has brought me back to my senses.
The show is over.
***
"When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become king. But the palace becomes a circus!" - Turkish proverb
***
"Put him on stage and remove a ladder" - Chinese proverb referring to bad performers.
***
"There was once a comedian who killed people with stolen jokes and was hanged by his wits' end." - H.Warner
***
"How pathetic the jester is, on the king's throne,
How stupid the people who allowed it."
- Robert Burns 1759-1796
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Пане Зеленський, сподіваюся, ви ще пам'ятаєте старе прислів'я рідною мовою:
"Не по Сеньке шапка."
Незабаром Україна стане однією великою Малинівкою.
Втішає те, що Європа та Америка йдуть тим самим шляхом.
До таких політичних проходимців і невдах, як Рютте, Джонсон, місіс Траст i... дo Вас пане Президенте, приєднаються Шольц, Бербок, Трюдо, Сунак і дідусь Джо. Почнуться взаємні звинувачення. Hа зміну обіймам i усмішкам прийдуть удари в спину.
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“Ukraine shouldn’t sign anything with them at all - and let’s just fight.” - Boris Johnson, Kyiv on Apr. 9, 2022
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"Росія хотіла припинити війну в обмін на нейтральний статус України, який зобов'язав би Київ ніколи не вступати в НАТО.
Водночас «коли ми повернулися зі Стамбула, приїхав Борис Джонсон до Києва і сказав, що ми взагалі нічого не підписуватимемо з ними - і давайте будемо просто воювати." - Давид Арахамія, в інтерв’ю Наталії Мосійчук (25 листопада 2023)
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"Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has strongly rejected the claims that he interfered with peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia in the spring of 2022." - Kyiv Post, January 11, 2024
No...he has shown many countries how to lead and inspire. He is courageous. Of course Russia wanted to conquer all ukraine and most especially the capital and to kill Zelensky and the rest of the leadership. Do stop peddling untruths.
A Play by whom?
He wasn't placed there by anyone, he won as a wild card on his genuine popularity.
He won in free elections, like Russia never had.
He did what his people wanted to do.
And still does. (Ukrainians still support him)
So what are you talking about?
Russia was ready to withdraw their troops to pre-invasion lines if the diplomatic efforts in Istanbul had succeeded. It was the Western countries that pressured Zelensky to walk away from the dialogue table and the war has dragged on up to today. Now a lot of things have changed on the ground, a lot of solders and civilians have died on both sides. So yes Russia is very much reasonable to say that Ukraine must accept the new reality on the ground if they're ready to dialogue. Because I don't think Putin would accept to withdraw to 1991 borders including giving up Crimea just so to sit with sit with Zelensky on the table. Russia has an upper hand in this so it's very laughable to see Zelensky making demands based on wishful thinking.
NATO expansion is also a new reality, NATO is very reasonable and that is why Sweden and Finland joined us.
Putin can ask and demand whatever he likes, but russia can only accept NATO hegemony over Europe.
Putin can only accept reality, but he is not ready yet. How many russians must die in the trenches before he understands?
Regarding changing borders by force, I'm rather shocked that neither Prof. Petro nor Prof. Lottaz mentioned the fact that US-NATO set the "legal" precedent for what Russia did in Ukraine by forcibly changing the border of Yugoslavia (now Serbia) in 1999, when we separated Kosovo from it by force, and then "recognized" Kosovo as a "sovereign state". Russia's annexation of Ukrainian territory is just as legal as our forcible separation of Kosovo from Serbia. No more, and no less.
MORE legal, as it was by referendum.
@@moestietabarnak Well, if we had arranged to hold a referendum in Kosovo before forcibly separating it from Yugoslavia, our aggression still would have been illegal. A referendum is an internal matter. No referendum can justify foreign countries intervening militarily to enforce the outcome of the referendum.
Not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. Kosovo was ab autonomous region that already had defined borders and was being attacked by serbs wio were ethnically. Cleansing the region of its Albanian majority. In Ukraine the donbas is not an autonomous region, the ethnic Russians are a minority of the population and no genocide of aggression has been ever committed against them.
Also if they are the same than surely Putin and the kremlin would surely recognize the soviergnty of Kosovo right. Seeing as how Kosovo is the same as his actions in Ukraine. Right.
More legal because in fact done after referenda. In Kosovo, there was no referendum.
@@TheTeach56 youre seriously appealing to a referendum organized by an occupying force, in a country under invasion, while said occupying forces are on the ground as a way to justify further aggression by the occupiers. That's seriously what you are doing.? In what other country would you possibly use the same logic. If the United States decides to invade Mexico and while they are occupying the country, with American troops on every country. Millions of Mexicans fleeing as refugees and war taking place between the Mexican military and the United States military , and the US decides to organize a referendum to the remaining population who either support the Americans or are too afraid to admit they don't like them, you would come.on here and say that we should totally respect the results of the referendum and that it represents the true will of the people and it should be respected and upheld in a court of law
Zelensky sold his country. That's what it is.
PUTIN ..... KIM JUNK UN......NATANIACHU THE BEST URAINIAN OLIGARH RUSSIAN OLIGARCH THE BEST US OLIGARCH NOT BET TOO HA HA
China invested a lot in Ukraine agriculture. They paid money for that. That's what it is.
Refusing to surrender is selling out your country. Ok. So what do you call surrendering your country to another power. Double selling?
Russia did achieve its goal with initial limited troops advance. It forced Ukraine to negotiations table and coming to an agreement. Having UK and US stoping Ukraine from doing that is another issue.
Forcing Ukraine to negotiate was never and still is not a goal of Russia. The US and UK also did not stop anything. All they did was relay to president zelensky that their countries would not be able to offer security guarantees in the form of troop support. They did however offer to provide weapons and finances. It was the bucha massacre that ended those negotiations. If we are to take naftali Bennet at his word anyway.
@@DomAtaGlanceThat is just not true. It was absolutely the goal of Russia to force a negotiated peace. Both countries agreed to a piece in Turkey. Russia pulled forces out of Kiev as a condition of this settlement. The West however used the pull out as a chance to sell more lies through the media which tried to paint Russia as incompetent and easily beaten on the battlefield.
@@DomAtaGlance bucha is still not “investigated” at least no findings provided. Highly likely a UK and US psy op.
There's a fundamental mistake here - Zelenskyy's people are not what you think.
How do you know that have you ever met them in person? No, you have not.
@@williamhawks2372 ofc I met *his* people, as well as ukrainians.
Zelensky's people are Joseph Robbinett Biden and his dirty family, Boris Johnson of UK and his acolytes, and all Neocons/Neoliberals of The Decaying West, plus Victoria Neuland, her husband in crime Keegan, Clinton Crime Family etc.
Period.
@@williamhawks2372never met them yet we keep seeing them everywhere
Today I will be reading Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" for the 10th time.
That makes sense.
He sold out to black rock.
Zelelensky is a Zionist plant serving international Zionism (Finance Capital)!
Israel is the trojan Hors in this war .
Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, and Gaza wars are intimately connected.
Believe this!
Dear mr. Lottaz,
I think it’s very important to broadcast this interview in German Language so that as large an audience as possible has the opportunity to hear it.
Thank you for your very informative and enriching contributions.
You have the subtitles button in the video...I am pretty sure it will work. Do not expect English speaking people to learn German, unless they enjoy learning languages, when English is still the lingua franca nowadays.
Why is there never ever mention of the Ukrainian annexation of Crimea in 1995? It is never ever mentioned. You have just ignored it here too.
Why do I not remember encountering anyone (online) over the past 2 years originally from Western Ukraine who opposes Zelensky's policies?
Are they silenced?
Am I in a bubble?
Do they self-censor?
Do they not exist?
Yes, they do exist, and yes, they are silenced, in Ukraine and in the West. Roman Kotcaba, as Ukranian as it gets, who spent 450 days in Ukrainian jail for advocating peace, now lives in the US. He calls Zelensky publicly, "green lice".
Arestovich obviously
That is called “democracy “.
Gonzalo Lira.
you can also check out Patrick Lancaster, Graham Philips etc. reporting from the Donbass, interviewing many residents...
WOW! Thank you. The plethora of information shared here was fantastic. Thank you.
We agree with Dr.Petro that our idea of NATO WAS AS DEFENSIVE ORGANIZATION, NOW WE KNOW HOW MISTAKEN WE WERE .
it may have started out as a defensive organization, but after the fall of the Soviet Union it has never done anything defensive again, only interfering with African countries and other offensive actions against other countries.
@@forwadnothing8212 Preventing wars in Europe, as it does for over 80 years. It's amazing that France, Germany, Spain, Sweden and the UK are not fighting each other, because of the NATO.
It's an alliance, we are allies instead of enemies. And Sweden and Finland joined us recently. To defend themselves.
@@worfozNATO controls EU now and you will bow down and obey what USA says ..so continue
Its an alliance of exploitation and demonization of others.@@worfoz
Why expand NATO ?
What do you mean by his own people? He isn’t Ukrainian.
Thank you for having this great guest on your show, I learned a lot! Good discussion, you are a very clever host! 👍
Excellent discussion, thank you.
After 20 years in Afghanistan, people are surprised by this?
Damn, slow learners.
Great insights from mr Petro. Thank you.
But they are Piers Morgan's favourite four truths.
😂
I am listening to something else so have yet hear you presentation. But a question seeing the title. Seeing as Zelensky is a Jew whose first language is Russian how can you say the Ukrainians are his own people? I am not being antisemitic. He could be a Fijian Rastafarian and I would still ask the question.
It speaks to power vacuum....
What is truly hilarious is that this Russian speaking Jew was elected by the Ukrainian people, and Russia started the war in part because Putin claimed, and many Russians believed, that Ukraine was "nazi". News flash. Nazis do not elect Jew to be President or Prime Minister. Every. Full stop. Period. End of story.
@@sanpotkins4705 Yes.
" I am not being antisemitic" Don't worry, the Ashkenazi are not Semitic.
@@YanniEhm OK! 😄 You knows what I mean young man. 🙃
This is all we - Ukrainians need to know about this proxy NATO vs Russia war:
Усе, що ми, українці, повинні знати про наших західних "союзників":
“Being an enemy of America is dangerous, being a friend of America is fatal.” - Henry Kissinger
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>>>I guess it was the 12th or 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. I got a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against a state prosecutor, and they didn’t.
“So as they were walking out to the press conference, I said, nah, we aren’t going to give you the billion dollars. They said you have no authority, you are not the President. I said call him. I’m telling you, you are not getting the billion dollars.
“You are not getting the billion; I am leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you are not getting the money.
“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired.>If you put aside the immense human suffering and look at Ukraine’s war through the cold lens of international power politics, a clear picture emerges: the West is having a good war against Russia.
All NATO has to do is send Kyiv munitions, equipment and money, which, as any general knows, is the c h e a p e s t way to wage war.
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The lives are being given by the Ukrainians. They’re defending their nation but also, inadvertently, helping decide the Cold War.
For 70 years, NATO deterred a Moscow attack westwards. The Russians eventually invaded, last February, what they assumed would be a conquerable target on their south-western border.
The war that NATO long prepared for is finally being fought.
No.1 cocaine,no.2money loundering, no.3 satanism, no.4 Russophobia these are the reasons for tragedy of Ukraine
noting about US' hegemony ?
Well said - good points.
Russia invaded Ukraine, because Ukraine was not a NATO member.
we need to fix that
Ukrainian Russo phobia? Hahaha
After multiple crimes and genocide suffered, from Russia, Ukraine remained one of most peo -russian nation, you can check surveys
And then Russians started to kill them again, and mass graves were revealed
That's where the hate to Russia is coming from. It's very rational, because Russians are murderers
Why does Putin want to give Galicia to Poland? A return to Romania and Hungary makes sense. The pre-war situation would then be restored. A larger Poland without the return of German territories is unfair
Yugoslavia seized to exist in 1991. It was 1999 when NATO attacked Serbia, unlike other interventions, not quite unduly.
Let's not forget, Western nations like France, Britain, Poland, Germany and the US have invaded/targeted Russia in the past. This conflict is mainly fought in the Eastern Donbass region where some 12,000 ethic Ukraine-Russian have been killed. After a US led coup and NATO encroachment, Russia seeks respect, peace and stable business partners.
Ukraine killed their representatives on the meeting for peace! Accused them as a treacherous!😡
Dr Nicolai Petro. I don’t think that Zelenskyy stabbed his own people.
Democracy should not only be about procedures like voting and the freedom of the press. Results should be the grading cards of democracy.
Does that country enact policies that the people want? Or do they enact policies that only the rich and powerful want?
Does changing the government change fundamental policies, especially those pertaining to the economy, regulations of big corporations, public investment, education, housing, food security, wages, financial regulations etc., policies that deeply affect people's everyday lives.
Do the policies enacted result in sustainable (economic and environmental) growth that sees the standard of living improve for the majority of the people and they have better financial security?
Do these policies decrease wealth inequality?
Do the foreign policies enacted reflect fair and obey international regulations and laws and reduce conflicts instead of icnreasing and escalating them?
Do these foreign policies actually improve the strategic position of the country and thereby improve the security of the people at home? Does these policies improve relationships with other countries and increase trade while maintaining a healthy trade balance?
Do the press actually have freedom to dissent, measured by how one sided the narratives presented by the media? Does the government have direct and indirect control over what the media print?
Does the government use clandestine means to spy on its citizens? Do they use these means to persecute people who do not adhere to prevailing narratives?
Does the social and cultural zeitgeist allow dissenting opinions and narratives to be voiced without the person being "canceled"?
I am sure that we start measuring democracy in these ways, the US and most of the west will fail most of the criteria to be a democracy even if the people can vote. The funny part is that China clearly wins on most of the criteria and failed in some.
Point of correction Sir, those regions are not temporarily occupied, they have been annexed and that is it. They will not be part of Ukraine ever again!
Thanks
Having someone invade you and demand that you accept citizenship of the new country to get basic resources is a false choice. The idea that such a false choice is being argued as acceptance is an argument that is just stupid. This is logic I would not accept at the grade school level let alone what apparently passes for post secondary education from an academic establishment that is clearly not worth the name.
Jens Stoltenberg doesn't count
Since spring 2022, conditions have changed. Zelensky managed to sell land and resources to the West. How can Kyiv maintain neutrality in such an economic reality?
It seems to me that developments in Gaza will have a stronger influence on the conflict in Ukraine. NATO is present at both sites.
After ,2024 the Ikranians regigees in Greece were leaving their vountry gor frar of Zelendki and they keep on coming for the same reason
I meant ,2014:
Very interesting and knowledgeable discussion
You have to have a State issued driver's license to even obtain a hunting license because out of State residents have to pay a lot more for a hunting license. So if you already have to produce your State drivers license to even obtain a hunting license then why in the world wouldn't you have to produce your State issued drivers license in order to vote?? A hunting license never has any photo on it. It's just a piece of paper so any Game Warden makes you produce your drivers license along with your State issued hunting license so that he can make sure it is really YOUR hunting license. This whole argument is utterly absurd!
Zelensky is Russia Jews
He is Ukranian Jew
As I understand it, half-jew by blood but not by conviction. An ethnic Russian Ukranian one.
Almost all the people that are running the show in Ukraine today are J.ews. Zelensky Kuleba Reznikov and many others. Their base is Dnepropetrovsk synagogue. They have their own plan and Slavs are used as cannon folders. I saw an interview where one of them said that they are planning to use the southern Ukraine as a new Izrail since Izrail is too small of a land for all the people thete. Time will tell
Very good as usual. Thanks
Sweden, Finland may be in the crosshairs. Nations bordering Russia but joining NATO are simply stirring the pot just as much as Russia would be doing the same if they chose to bring Canada and Mexico into its fold.
@anthon yagbojo1408 - why is that so hard for people to grasp?
They only have to remember the US response when Kruschev put missiles in Cuba, and that was only in response to US placing missiles in Italy and Turkey pointed at Russia
They can't get through Ukraine. How in the world could they go into NATO territories. Not possible!
The future of UKRAINE after losing incredible amount of White Christian male population and Ukrainian women that migrated to EU, UK, and North America makes it look dismal leaving only the retired and disabled population left behind. Any future workforce in Ukraine would have to include NON Ukrainian speaking and NON Christian Migrants mostly from AFRICA.
25:38 The problem with Ukraine ascending into the EU is that since nearly all EU members are NATO members, the NATO could be split, on paper, into an EU 'army' as part of the EU itself and a non EU part. Then in Ukraine, being part of the EU, NATO effectively will put its army there anyway.
The problem is that even if you rule that out NATO will never keep its promisses or treaties as it never did before.
@reinouds6377 - I think Vlad is already making it clear that "peace" will only come with guarantees that preclude what is left of Ukraine signing on for NATO, the EU or US corporates, he no longer trusts us and will only contemplate future agreements that are guaranteed to his satisfaction
We really blew it in 1991 and Germany will be lucky if they do not look back in a few years time and wonder how they managed to screw up their latest economic miracle so badly when it was looking so good, perhaps they already are
Pretty lame analysis.
Talking as if Putin just woke up one morgning and decided to invade this momolith know as Ukraine.
As if there was not a civil war in Ukraine dating back to 2014, as if the United States had not participated in overthrowig the Yanukovych Presidency, as if the US-backed Poroshenko coup government had not been conducting an ongoing war agaonst the Dombas and its ethnic Russian majority since 2014, as if Poroshenko had not killed almost 15,000 Dombas residents (probably with NATO weapons) because they people didn't recognize his illegitimate coup government, as if the governments of the Dombas did not beg Russia for help all along, as if Russia did not try peaceful resolution via the Minsk Accords.
Let's forget all that, and just proceed from the myth that Putin woke up one morning and invading the momolith Ukraine, not that there was a 8-year old Civil War with "Ukrainians" on both sides.
And how about some more myth that Crimeans "accepted" Russian citizenship like it was imposed on them. They voted in favor that, by 97%. And let's not mention that the Western Ukrainians think the Eastern Ukrainians are actually Russians, which is why the government in Kiev is killing them and talking away all their rights.
So go explain the annexation of Crimea and the 2014 start of the conflict Donbas conflict. Gonna blame Zelenskyy for that too……..give me a break!
"His own people"? The great academic isn't aware that Zel had to learn Ukrainian later in life, that he's not ethnically Ukrainian? On a completely unrelated note, At the outset of this war, Ukrainian double-nationals were allowed to leave Ukraine for their Middle-East home planet, and even now they're not being made to return and jump into the frontline meat-grinder, even as young Urkainian women are sacrificed there.
Shame on the host for giving these shillls such a pass. Neutrality to a fault? Fear of damping channel growth?
Ukraine in NATO without Crimea is an empty military shell. That was the mandate of the US to the Zeensky regime. Since 2015 they were draging their feet with implementing the Minsk 2 agreement. Rebuilding the Ukrainina military might. Their plan was simple. Build strong defensive line in the Donbas that could hold against the Russian army if they invaded to regain the Donbas. The collective west would then start a full scale economic war againsst Russia. The Ukrainian army would just have to hold the lines in the Donbas until the Russian econmy collapse and the Putin's regime capitulate and give back to the Kiiv regime all it's 1991 territories.
But the Russian army didn't follow that plan. The Dombas war was left to the Donbas militia with a helping hand of the Tchechens and the Wargner mercenarygroup. They disabled the Ukrainian Air Forcee infrastructure with massive missilies strikes and invade the eastern and northern regions where there was non defensive lines and the Ukrainian soldiers were insuficcient. They send two tanks column to personallythreathen the deciision makers in Kiiv. Nothing was going as NATO planned and the Zelensky regime wanted out of the game and tried to negociate peace. But it seems that Russia just wanted Crimea and neutrality and was ready to give up the Donbas in exchange. NATO than intervened with an offer that Zelensky couldn't refuse.
Does anyone knows what happened to the individual Ukrainians that were in the negociating team in Türkiye?
Just a thought about the first two myths: if Putin had reasoned that, due to the steady buildup and 'Nato-ization' of Ukraine that he would be inevitably faced with either passively accepting Ukraine as Nato's fist aimed at the gut of Russia, or with the choice to intervene now before Article 5 was an issue, and; if he then intervened with full-scale war, it would be much harder for us to argue now - just because of the optics - that his interest all along was merely Nato encroachment, and not some ultranationalist imperial fever-dream of conquering Europe.
Clear, informative explanation and presentation.🖐️👋 Great.
actually usa is comfortable with allying with dictatorships than democracies... like Pakistan instead of India, kingdoms rather than democracies, well to list every such thing takes too long, but I think you got the point
Ukraine joining the Eu wod be a disaster for the Eu. The CAp would be blown apart by the subsidies that Ukraine and by definition American big agri business would get. Ukraine has not got rid of corruption and is a bankrupt state whose subsidies from the Eu will dwarf what was given to East Europe. the reason Yanokovitch changed his mind on joining the Eu was the prohibitive conditions that they required, If these are no longer applied the EU would collapse.
Great channel, great guest.
Never heard of this channel before but you are peddling total bunkum.
Myth is an ancient greek word for "lie" . It is pointless to discuss them . Ukraine was an economic manoeuver of some companies to charge the country for its mil help , then trap it and sell it off for their supergains . Overall Dr Pietro seems to agree
Also Putin said that there won't be any cease fire just because Ukraine ran out of shells
I wounder who would get to chose the next dictator if zelenskyy dies
Very informative
Super video. Thank you.
zelenskys swansong WHEN A CLOWN ENTERS A PALACE he doesent become a king but the palace becomes a circus haaaa haaa haaa...
Thank you so much for everything you do, for all the interviews. I wish people I know could hear it and maybe start slowly seeing things from the other prospective. Why don´t you have instagram? I´d love to share there all your videos and hope that more people whach it and start thinking and asking questions.
Thanks a lot! It really means very much to me. And I'm bad at instagram. I never understood it or how to use that platform properly, the format seems so short and I couldn't find a good way. But yes, I should change that. How could I make use of insta to spread these contents? What would be the right approach?
In the meantime European people go:" are WE the baddies?!?"
Yes!
RUSSIA HAS TOO MANY PEOPLE HATING HER
Only the bought off assembly
The public has nothing to do with this war or any other war.
The guest should be full screen when he talks , theres no need to see the host
Thank you for very good information about the matter
Neutered-rality Studies
It is a very, very sad story..
Why is that all the people claiming that Ukraine should negotiate with Russia aren’t they themselves Ukrainian?
They are Russian bots and tools.
Ukrainians did negotiate and agreed to multiple deals.
It was the non Ukrainians who worked to undermine the deals for their sick obsession of non stop war.
Ukraines SBU keeps dissidents quiet.
it's not allowed for ukrainian citizens to push for peaceful negotiations. .. which explains why they're not even given presidential elections anymore
@@iriemon1796 Makes you a NATO bot?
Defensive?????? ???
sold them out!!!!
FOK U.S.!!!!
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Thanks!
Thank you so much! I‘ll get a coffee tmrw with that! 😃
Cheers! (Having wine right now. Hehe)
@@neutralitystudies You are welcome! Enjoy! 👍☺
Sorry Nicolai Petro you are so wrong. Zelensky did not back stabbed his own people. The reality is Zelensky do not have to. Indeed Zelensky sent his own people to be slaughtered in broad day light in the war with Russia. Comprento
Zelensky ya ha de querer que se termine el rodaje de su película; ya la hicieron serie y muy larga los productores
Not his people the other people
Dr Petro is so wonderful to listen to.He should be in charge of the State Dept
LOL
Nicolai doesn't know history. Shame
Russia attacked Ukraine. Thats all people know. Everything else is considered politics where im from. The clear propaganda: defensive weapons, defensive alliance, unprovoked invasion; is all accepted as fact. Glory to The Netherlands
Petro is another talking head who fails to condemn the phrase ( might is right) he dances around the germane issue. that being,that ukraine is a sovereign nation
Zelensky FAFO.
In order to allow other nations to exist, you have to be a nationalist yourself. The instant you go beyond your national self-interest in actions abroad, you begin being an imperialist.
America could allow freedom for different propositions to compete precisely because it was based on a natural identity of whites.
1) a nation based on race has to keep other races out;
2) a country unified only by principles or Ideals or Wordism has to keep other IDEAS out.
You simply cannot have free speech in a country whose only unifying force is “dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”
A multiracial state must be a propositional state, based on words rather than natural identity. Such a state cannot allow freedom of speech.
Any society based on a set of words rather than a common identity must eventually defend those words from heretics by force.