My ENTP nephew will argue a point, and if I agree with him, he'll argue the opposite side haha! He sees things nobody else sees. He's really funny and super entertaining. He has really high Fe. He's one of my favorite people, I think his personality is very well rounded. He's caring, but never a pushover
He probably values you a lot for that emotional support. Just letting him be himself around you. I wish I had more cool aunts like you growing up ENTP.
This is the best ENTP video I have seen. ENTP stereotypes really miss the Fe aspect, and can greatly underestimate our drive. Even when ENTPs are "unfocused" they always on a warpath. Focused ENTPs can make ENTJs look like slackers or at least keep up.
Can confirm. My ENTJ friend already understood my hidden potential long before I did. I was always able to keep up with them...when I wanted to. ENTJs are amazing friends. I actually get more miffed when people talk bad about ENTJs than ENTPs.
Warpath? I'm not sure about the martial language. ENTPs can certainly pursue their dreams uncompromisingly though, provided they can fend off distraction.
@@chuhwey3632 ENTPs don't value Se and Fi is a total blind spot. You can't be both exploratory/indirect and direct/combative. Can't be both impersonal/principle-driven and personal/relationship-driven
It's very refreshing to see this perspective of us ENTPs; it seems that anything about ENTPs focuses on the "debatability" of ENTPs and chaos surrounding. I've always related to the little articles about developed Fe in ENTPs, and being able to see a video that goes deeper into the idea is interesting to see!
i grew up in an athmosphere where i had to pay close attention to the people around me to avoid major conflict and traumatic events from happening. the effect these expiriences have on me had me questioning being an entp because i tend to avoid confrontation, as opposed to the entp stereotype.
I get this. I always had to solve problems and even prevent them from happening by diffusing the situation before it escalates due to uncontrollable emotions. just to maintain some semblance of peace and harmony growing up
Mmm I might agree. The most honest people around me (usually my siblings) will tell me I’m being disagreeable & I’m over here thinking I’ve been successful in my Herculean effort to hold back & make sure everyone perceives they are being heard.
Even as an older ENTP I could misjudge what upsets people, because almost nothing upsets me, but I can adjust well. In practice this means that I am initially more careful with people, until I see where their landmines are.
@@ClubENTP she's not an actual ENTP female though. ENTP females exist, the founder of Socionics was one, and so is Felicia Day, Amanda Knox and probably Tina Fey. Melissa isn't, and what Nathan describes here is completely different to Melissa's very apparent Fi Inferior and Se Tertiary.
For example, if an ENTP writes a book, he knows that he will permenantly can/ will use Ne and he also know, that he can bring up all his skills in his book. Book writing is something I dont hear the peaple say to be a natural habit of an ENTP but I have to admit, that I see in Romans and Philosophy books pretty much everything, which an ENTP could wish. Yes, the still need to talk with peaple and exploring the world ( in a more philosophy way) , but everything they do in these catogaries will get used by them for something different, if intended or not
I've naturally wrote stories as a kid and put them in a corner of my homeroom for other kids to read. It got pretty good feedback and they kept requesting the next chapter but I was already onto writing a brand new book lol. Started about 100 new story/ideas but never finished one
I can think of my entp friend with developed Fe. His curiosity to explore new ideas leads him to bring out hidden gems out of people around. No matter how shy/reserved those people might be. He effectively picks the right approach and takes time for them to open up. He always tries to engage people in group gatherings on different activities. But those are just for fun I think he could direct that kind of power into something large scale
Just for the fun, try to observate him and his vicinity than he stop doing a specific group activity, it would be familiar to me, if the whole group would start to stop the activity too. I knew this scenario specially, if the ENTP himself was the person who brought the group together
This video is a great watch, I am often completely dissatisfied with the "debater" stereotype for ENTP as I am an ENTP who LOVES to debate things with people to get an understanding of how everyone thinks BUT I tend to know people's limits and I will rarely push last them. It is absolutely one of the most annoying thing when people miss an entire aspect of something when making judgement. Honestly, i prefer the stereotype of ENTPs being messy, creative, only low-key chaotic, person who can maintain group harmony and sometimes debates things.
As an ENTP who works as a Software Architect - you are spot on, I never had so much fun at work: I'm bombarded with all kinds of different problems that get me out of my comfort zone and surprise me, I meet a lot of people that I can help, I keep a huge holistic picture of the system in my head and can pull any connections from it when needed. ENTP brethren - find variety with quality over quantity, you won't regret it.
Absolutely right! Si+Fe is crucial to understanding an ENTP's values. Social harmony is important to them, but something they are not strong at creating for themselves. In the same way, if someone says they are an ENTP but showcase harsh, personal judgement (Fi+Se), while limiting the scope of social possibilities (Ni), that ENTP is probably not an ENTP.
@@WorldSocionics Is that the reason? I just thought she was sucked up into the 'cancel culture' hype. Like....it didn't happen overnight. You can watch her become more authoritarian and judgmental as time goes on. She seemed more scatter brained and emotionally detached at first. I think she's an ENTP that can't do youtube upload scheduling properly, is starting to spiral outta control slowly....and has been sucked into the cancel culture cult mentality....and trying really hard to become an apologist for it. If i were to guess, I believe soon she'll go full downward ENTP spiral and start over indulging is worldly pleasures.
@@Niveous23 nah, this was clear in her other videos too, such as the one on romantic relationships, and the one where she discusses her social anxiety. Melissa shows every sign of Fi inferior, not Fi blind spot. She questions why someone might like her, and leans towards distrusting the intentions of people, and needing to test intentions before letting people in. She puts up boundaries, and is careful to control what happens on her channel. Being around people she can trust is very important to her, and a place of great pain when she gets that wrong. If you get on her wrong side, she will hold a grudge, and she has really made a point of how she will attack those who upset her INFP friends too. ENTPs really don't care about this sort of thing, if you're positive and friendly, they'll enjoy your company, and will easily let bygones be bygones if you may have had a falling out before. They don't keep score because they suppress their personal judgements and attitudes in favour of logical reasons and expressed emotions.
@@Niveous23 Think about it. Is Melissa an easy-going, risk-friendly person? Does she open up possibilities for their own sake? No, she's a very serious person. She does not take things lightly by nature. That's a clear personality trait from watching her videos. When she's actually pissed off, it's an ongoing, personal thing, up goes the drawbridge. This is xNTJ behaviour, not xNTP behaviour and especially not ENTP. No 'cancel culture hype' or feminism, or whatever is going to change an ENTP's values to look like that. If an ENTP tries to censor, it is because they're buckling under pressure from others to censor, it's not because they are personally offended by something.
it’s so interesting to me how a lot of people in the mbti community will so willingly call an INFJ “the most rational feeler” due to tert Ti, and yet the same credit is not given where to the ENTPs (and also ENFPs). it’s a pattern i’ve seen over and over again. although ENTPs can be a devils-advocate/chaos-monkey, i’m so glad you mentioned ENTP’s need for harmony! (albeit occasional) well done! :)
The INFJ is a master of: 'shutting the fuck up'. People largely just want to FEEL that people are listening. INFJs deliver hard. That doesn't mean the INFJ cares about you, likes you, or is even listening. But they can quietly nod their head and tolerate you. I know this from listening to my INFJ friend complain about other people in their life. Yes, they are hyper sensitive towards others, can separate emotions from events, and sometimes treat people like pet projects trying to fix. But underneath it all is someone that wants to be left alone.
@@christopherbucher7017 We’re Not Only That But So Much More. lol We Play Off Our Surroundings. To The A-hole, We’re An A-Hole, To The Humble We’re A Clown.
This helped explain why ENTP is often listed as compatible with INFJ. I utilize arguments to reach a conclusion and solve problems, not to antagonize others. I also have strong Fe which would pair well with a balanced ENTP. Very enlightening, thank you!
It's very true. The problem with that pair is when the INFJ didn't set up a boundary, and the ENTP totally missed any subtle or not so subtle cues that their INFJ friend is uncomfortable.
I'm infj and my husbands entp, we love solving problems we live volunteering and organizing. He can learn a tabletop game rules very fast we love teaching tabletops games I am good at helping newbies feel comfortable while he can debate the semantics of ths game so that it's clear to everyone why they are the way they are. Our lives are easy and flow, also our kids have a very full understanding of our positioning on literally everything they ask us about.
Social harmony is important to me because I want people around me to be having a good experience. But if I determine I’m the only person giving energy to generating/maintaining harmony or if there is someone I know to be toxic who I cannot run interference for then I’m probably more likely than other fe users to stop directing my energy towards harmony. Two reasons: 1) I am not going to fight a battle I don’t think I can win; 2) I don’t want to be associated with someone’s toxic behavior - that doesn’t serve me well and also sends a message that others should tolerate it, too.
ENTPs are, and I'm willing to be wrong here, are one of the few empath types that can turn their emotions on and off....like a light switch. I'v had INFJ and INFP people tell me that, "just being around so-and-so is emotionally draining". And I could never understand that. I'd be like, "Just cut em' off" And I'v learned that what I consider something as simple as, "Oh....fuck this circus. I'mma tune this idiot out" is something other types can't do. I have no anxiety around them either, because I don't mind making a scene, and telling them to fuck off. Other empath types also seem very anxious about 'causing a scene'.
I don't see things as battles tbh and I certainly don't want to "win".Life might be a game but there aren't any winners imo, unless learning is winning but in that case we all win, so how can there be winners if there are no losers? Ultimately regardless of the outcome I think its about having fun living your idea of life and a little conflict & questioning is fine bc its not about whos the winner but what we learn. But that's my opinion idk
@@tahsina.c spoken like a true ENTP. it's amazing how pathetic and surface level the MBTI community is of ENTPs as a whole. i don't debate to 'win'. i do it cuz it's fun. i learn, they learn, i get better, they get better. what's not to love?
Yes, I suppose you could call it maturity. Maturity in it's truest sense is experience. And us ENTPs are gluttons for experiences, good and bad ones. I also want to point out that debating others loses it's zest with time. People don't like conflict usually. Even if we tone down the approaches towards debate. ENTPs don't stop loving debates, they usually pull back because people have very little to offer us over time. We're not stupid. We see that people don't like it. We FEEL that people don't like it. We understand they wont engage us because of conflict aversion. It's like trying to squeeze a rock for water. It's a little depressing, but life moves on. Growing up in a chaotic home, I had no choice but to abuse my Fe to bridge people together. Harmony creation came naturally to me. And while I loved fighting with ideas, I never liked emotionally filled yelling matches. So I had the experiences, but it never prevented me from starting arguments for the sake of hashing out ideas. I guess you could say I didn't find the two activities mutually exclusive. I can understand that some people could see both activities as hypocritical. I will agree though that over time the ENTP will have less reasons to argue. They aren't trying to understand your point of view as much. They've already gleamed a lot about others like yourself and put you into a box, much like an INFJ would do. They wont stop you from offering your POV, but wont bother as much to pry it outta you. The love of debate an ENTP is stereotyped for is truly a love of knowledge. And as an ENTP grows, he/she will find other ways to acquire that knowledge. I don't mean for it to sound harsh, but older ENTPs have weighed the pros and cons of debating you.....and have probably found it not worth the effort....and it's not just one, but many reasons why.
I'm happy that I have a friend group of an entj, an enfp, an intp and more entps who love debating my ideas with me so I never have to pull back the debate.
The last point, about finding a job that provides stability and constant stimulation, really resonated with me. It took me a LONG time to find a career that satisfies my ENTP nature, but I’ve finally landed on being an chemical incident investigator and inspector (aka industrial hygienist) for OSHA. It’s perfect in being a very stable government job that gets me out meeting new people, constantly seeing and learning new things, and occasionally sparring in court. I recommend this to any ENTP with a background in biology, chemistry, or the trades.
Will ad this to my bucket list. Or for other ENTP that didn’t learned in this fill. I think Hospitality industry is also a good choice. It’s offer you opportunity to meet new people every day, learn little things every second. When you bored you can switch to other jobs easily. But the problem is the pay is not that high and it’s mostly short lifetime contract.
That sounds really good, especially the stability part. I'm not an ENTJ, but I do crave variety (or a regular rotation of duties at least) in my position, and a lot of lab jobs are hugely repetitive, even to the point of causing me to question the value of college degrees. I worked in product development at one point, and it was my favorite job. I'm trying to find another one, but it is tough going.
@@FlamingCockatiel "a lot of lab jobs are hugely repetitive" - this was one of my biggest issues as an ENTP with an undergrad degree in biology. The only jobs were low level lab techs, which consisted of mostly independent, repetitive cookbook work. I was bored to tears.
@@laskyam You know it. The process of getting the degree (chemistry for me) was more interesting than most jobs it got me. I was micromanaged at one of those lab jobs, and I was/am ready to leave science work because of it + repetitiveness. However, there is a popular idea that science degree = good job and I had someone at a landscaping company tell me to seek work in my field. How did you happen to get your job? I apply for what interests me (product development and technical writing), but, alas, they all want experienced people and/or an advanced degree plus a salesman personality.
@@FlamingCockatiel I decided I wanted to phase out of lab work, so I did some research on what non-lab jobs I could pursue with my background. After some soul searching, I looked for grad school programs that would help me change careers. I was fortunate to find one (environmental and community health) that was local, cheap, and had a good relationship with some big employers. With a Chem degree, you could apply to my job (industrial hygienist) without any additional credentials.
It was pretty surprising for me to learn that a lot of people view things they see in life as "good" or "bad". I almost never think like this, for me it's more like "correct" or "incorrect". Eventually I came to realize that different people can see the same set of facts and come to different conclusions whether or not it's "good" or "bad". I guess my superpower is that I'm able to see all of these perspectives without being personally offended by it, and then able to get to the underlying truth that satisfies all.
0:51 Yep that's right, that's me. As an ENTP who values morality and ethics (though not strictly adhering to it), my approach in life is "The end justifies the means". Karma is real. I want everybody to be happy, they should get what they deserve. Karma is amoral.
As an ENTP I really love your videos. You actually seem to understand ENTPs in a way I rarely see. I've turned 31 and I have found stability in getting a degree in Physics. I'm a semester in and really enjoy the day to day learning I feel in command of while having the stability of good grades. I have learned to hold off on debating and actually listen and tap into feeling this past year, which has helped ground me. When first meeting people or in fights with my husband (INFJ) I do resort to a debator and some times manipulative role (getting less as I just say out loud "You just did this and I feel myself want to use it against you just to take back control) because there's a thrill of discovery in meeting people, but it is easier to actually care what people are saying in a feelings way rather than just as a mental stimulation game. The non-judgement is a key point and rarely focused on. I value all opinions and ideas so equally that it is a way of caring and empathizing with humanity as a whole and individually. I do think my husband helped to balance me because he's so accepting and calm so I get to see what that's like every day then strive to discover how to embody some of those traits. We do love a challenge ;)
Once Again You Crushed It. Thank You. Since I’ve Been Aware Of The Stereo Types We ENTPs Display, I’ve Made It My Mission To Elevate The ENTPs To Use It As A Challenge. We Defy Anyone Who Attempts To Put Us Into A Box. The Only Box I’ll Ever Be Put In Will Be Made Of Pine.
@@ainspains3485 I’ve Paused Work On It Because It Deals With Only 4 Personality Types. Now I Will Be Incorporating All 16 Types. I Have So Many Projects Including Inventions.
I’m an INTJ,my partner an ENTP,is a green beret, a negotiator was involved in strategizing Bin Laden capture, an international business ( Classified job), master of multiple languages and a member of multiple IQ society, and is still crazy and childlike when it comes to learning vast quantities of material to spit it out in 1 page., but highly undisciplined
Data scientist here. Love this field!!i love especially looking at different social phenomenons througg the lens of many different models...and how ideas can connect from very different aspect of the world through abstract frameworks.. its def a field that requires constant learning
ENTP, I absolutely LOVE finding win-win scenarios! It is the ultimate problem solver. I also find debate a useful way to learn other perspectives. I always keep it friendly and I always stop if I sense the other person is getting annoyed.
Why I love my mature Entp. He's just so organized in his work and how he manages things. He is also so disciplined in his day to day goals and tasks. I love that and he inspires me, this coming from an Infj who just loves to wing it with life.
I suggest, computer science, and spending all day long in a cool university campus, there's a lot of people and computer science is always novelty even after finishing.
As an ENTP, I commit to change ;) And I'm glad you brought up structure.. for the longest time, I thought I was an ENTJ. In fact, I get along famously with ENTJs, since we're always on the same wavelength wrt organization and drive.
Can I borrow a cup of your soul then? lol My bestie is an ENTJ, and I love them. And I ...can...keep up. But it's a struggle. I find it hard to be motivated, but they seem to pull motivation outta thin air.
@@Niveous23 I find that ENTJs are motivated by goals. As long as they're hitting their milestones, getting their team to get those tasks done, they're happy. Me, I need a vision. I can weather obstacles, setbacks with a compelling vision. Without that, I'm dead in the water, zero motivation.
I so appreciate this presentation, as I feel so tired of hearing about the normal ENTP stereotype. I would also like to hear more about the Fi trickster function, which I do believe is finally accessible to ENTP. What do you think of that idea - that Fi is also accessible to ENTP?
if i'm correct, Fi is actually our blind (PoLR) function being as it's in the seventh slot. I just started learning about this facet of mbti, but it sure explains a lot lol. as an entp, it's so hard to know how i feel about anything! this goes for my delayed reaction to sad things happening to me, and it also makes it near impossible to develop a firm personal stance on a given topic. we naturally see exceptions to sweeping moral statements, and we're much more curious than we are judgemental, both of which make us excellent advocates for understanding the people and things deemed "bad" by the community but also leave us with very few absolutes in our lives.
I agree that some ENTPs find it difficult to know what they feel. I think, though, that as life goes on, we all go through crises. During times of crisis, the unconscious may take over, and parts of ourselves that we could not see in the past become visible to us. Life affords us these opportunities so that we can come to know more of ourselves. I’m an older ENTP (in my seventies), and I do believe that life has turned me “inside out” during several periods of time. In those times, when I may have lived more from other parts of the personality (subconscious or unconscious) I may actually have seemed more like an INTJ or even an INTP or even an INFP. During those periods, hidden functions may have emerged. I think that ENTP goes on its relentless questioning and opposing precisely because it is searching for something internal that it can believe in. The Fi is the secret lover on whose behalf the whole quest is conducted. I think that it is important to recognize that all the functions are defined by their relationship with the Hero function. For example, if Fi is hidden, it is hidden to the NE-TI hero and parent. If a child does not receive the affection and attention from the parent that it craves, it will act out - perhaps becoming a trickster. Playing tricks may be the only way in which the child obtains the parent’s attention. Along the same line, if a child is repeatedly ignored, cast off, and scorned by the parent, it may take refuge in being a “bad child” - that is, a demon - just because that is the only way that the child can get the parent to listen. For this reason, I think that it is very important to cultivate the parts of ourselves that we may tend to judge, avoid, shun, or scorn. All those functions can become our savior insofar as they help to complete and even resurrect the personality. That’s just my opinion, though. Others may see something that I am missing or may see things differently.
I'm an INTJ with a close ENTP friend, and I have to say he simply cannot relate to Fi the way I do. To him everything is exceptions, bending the rules, and 'yeah but what if'. To me an Fi conviction is unbreakable, no ifs ands or buts.
@@EresirThe1st I am hearing that your ENTP friend has a hard time relating to the world except through construct, which can always be changed. I think I that life provides opportunities in which all types can grow and change. I’m ENTP, in my seventies, and I do have some unbreakable convictions. One for example, is the belief that within each person is a being that is divinely intelligent, creative, resilient, and, given compassion, able to find its way out of any entanglement that it may have created for itself. Another is to look for the source of interpersonal difficulties in myself because the willingness to discover one’s mistakes sets us all free. A third is to understand the difference between saying something that is harmful and something that may be painful to hear, and to commit myself to doing no harm. Another is that each person’s spiritual journey is the most important aspect of their life. I am ENTP through and though, and yet I hold these beliefs as incontrovertible.
I love discussions, I love worldview discussions :D. I also love negotiation, I've seen so many times people changing their stand about something important. Sometimes I cause that. I mean - not forcefully! This makes me very proud of myself. It's like - everybody needs to grow up. Sometimes we're unconcious or we conciously push away something important. It's better to confront it and to decide calmly what to do about it. Not to run away all the time, hiding in the fog.
An ENTP implementation of that first quote: "I don't agree with you, but I think we're coming at the same thing from two different directions, and I'm curious as to how that happened. Let's see if we can't figure out why we're both approaching the same solution from different angles." I'd say that the second quote is better phrased as, "As long as we both want to see the problem solved, what seems like conflict is often one shift in perspective away from cooperation." No change to the third although I do think that empathy demands that you DO both agree that a given problem needs to be solved. As someone who is an ENTP when in a good mood, my favorite job was one where I was required to learn a great deal about extremely complex things quickly and then write them up such that readers would grasp the jist of what happened ten times faster and react a certain way. I LOVED it -- this was sci-fi level sh*t, too. Pay me to learn hairy things and then tell other people all about them? Dream job. And the constant influx of new information meant that I wasn't much distracted and turned into the workaholic I love to be when the idea buffet is big enough.
I read about warp bubbles yesterday. The world is filled with crazy sci-fi/borderline physics stuff out there. It's a big world of infinite questions, and I love it.
You have a real understanding of ENTPs beyond the "they like to debate." I was diagnosed as an ENTP (hehe) by an Industrial Psychologist - I had always self-tested as INTP but it didn't quite fit The Unifier and the Disruptor are actually in service of the same goal - the correct result, which we see almost immediately and just need to bring others along. For example, ENTPs are sticklers for getting the definitions agreed upon before a debate/discussion, so we aren't wasting time. In this same vein, I can see an ENTP spotting the cracks in a group, prying those cracks to break the group apart, enjoying the chaos swirling around, and then facilitating the hashing out of the differences and meshing the people back together in a way with no cracks and optimized for success. There is, of course, no plan for how you'll bring them back together, but there IS confidence. It's jazz, baby. I also don't mind letting others take the credit for it too, often that's a bargaining chip you have to play in service of the goal. (But that person better value me and my contribution) Regarding structure, I need it, but I need to create it. This gives me the safe zone within which to let myself play freely. Boundaries imposed by others are good - for others...I'll treat them like a buffet, and maybe like a challenge. It's fun to break a rule and get the rule maker to agree with you afterwards. But without any boundaries I get lost and overwhelmed. I can go deep (baby), but need to limit the width. Maybe I'll do one of those videos and send it to you. Plans plans plans...ENTP, so don't hold your breath. Where this video didn't quite hit the mark for me is the constant need for new...I crave expertise and that can't be achieved with flitting about. Hmm, maybe expertise in 1 thing is enough and that opens the door for the rest to be new. I'll think on this.
Thank you for this video. As an ENTP working for an insurance company in the position of a recruiting specialist I totaly agree with you. The job garantees stability and income but at the same time I have to learn constantly and meet new people and solve problems (like getting more women to work in a working space dominated by men). I would not survie in this job without beeing structured or having a plan, to be successful. This success allows me to negotiate about my working conditions: enough flexibility and trainings, to develop my skills. Although I am finishing my master thesis in a completely different subject: philosophy, which is why I'm not bored yet :D Learing how to negotiate, to value others and their skills, their perspectives, is necessary to use our full potential as ENTPs - and be happy too ;)
I'm so really happy, to see that video. Sometimes I just get tired of see only stereotypes, not going deeply and wisely in that topic. I start from the end. In my job, I'm really much organised and hate to see mess all around. Everything have to be logic and structured. I'm really getting mad, when I notice some kind of chaos, resulting from neglect and lack of focuse and too much slopiness. I have of variety patients with many disease entities. I have chaos on mind, when sometimes wanna explain what I think, but really organised in every step in major of cases. Secondly, yeah we admire chaos and debates... Yeah, it depends. For maybe 75% of my time, I'm peacemaker. I always say what I think and sometimes "fight" to prove it that I'm right, but usually I wanna to everyone stay calm and harmonized. Maybe it' s not on my very first place on to-do-list, to make other people happy, but I don't like fights for reason of fighting. It really drains of energy, that bad energy stays with longer time. Sometimes I say, yeah that' s so stupid, but not always.sometimes I drop the converstation and argument, when I predict that's clueless. I can be dyplomatic and really doing that very well, if I want, because of my empathy. I can really get in some shoes and feel his/her situation and I do not have to agree with his/her opinion. What is the most funny, me judging myself, really calm, sometimes almost heartless, really can be the most sensitive for someone's fate and needs. The most needed, especially. So yeah, it really depends on situation.
I find that almost regardless of what it is, I’m satisfied with learning it to 90% mastery, because I am interested in other challenges instead and also view it like riding a bike. If I ever did need to fully master some thing, I’m 90% there already. Life‘s too short to focus on one thing. I love, love, love new challenges and learning new things, but I don’t have the attention span to focus only on that I don’t care about getting the paper certificate at the end. If I’ve satisfied myself, I’m satisfied.
I think that entps might also channel this disciplinary side whenever they feel like it will open up more opportunities in their future (like a good college degree). Not because of the te-dom’s specific goal or vision but rather because of this need to ensure that they’ll be able to do anything that they want to without being held back by a lack of skill or the lack of a paper that accredits their skills
I like very much the way you do your films about ENTP. You see in us something, not only this jackass, being reckless, having no clue, playing all the time like a child. Thank you.
that's kinda inspiring, i always wanted to do something like that but i'm too bad with people on 1x1, groups are easier to manage i think i may try it again in the future, what's the point of being your best version if people around you aren't their best as well? i noticed a pattern in myself and ESTP friends that when we are at our best, everyone around us gets better but at our worse we bring everyone down with us. it's an unconscious process but if we manage to bring it into the light and use it for good, the people around us could grow kinda challenging though, but i'll get there
Thank you for this!!! It always bother me how ENTPs are always described as a hurricane of chaos. I've already done the test 4 times and I'm most definitely an ENTP but I'm very much capable of staying focus or NOT irritating people 24/7. Of course we DO fit the steriotypes in one way or another... but at this point a lot of people think that we're this cartoon like character who happens to be real. Although that's funny it can be annoying.
This was SO timely. Currently dealing with a 'win at any cost' type. At first, this person reminded me of myself (ENFJ) until I talked to someone who left the server because they didn't want to deal with them. I started to realize there's some disconnect between recognizing and respecting other opinions... maybe I should look more into ENTP, immature.
I’m very sure I’m and ENTP. I resonate with Ne, Ti, Fe and to a lesser degree Si in that order. But I’ve ever identified with the arguing for arguing sake. I can play devils advocate and will see and argue all sides of and issue, but usually in my head.
Is there any job like “Ideas seller”? because seriously i watch a movie and i take some details and points to create a bridge and in less than an hour i have a whole new plot for a sequence with the conflict point and cast, or soundtrack like anything! the same for tv shows os books but of course i don’t have any skills or ability to do it but i know can show it and sell it and even work with a team during the development with some dynamic it’s a DREAM JOB challenging my creativity, working with people etc etc
As an ENTP who loves watching ENTP videos: my attention span is really short and I find myself unable to focus throughout your videos even though I know you've got a lot of great points from the little things my brain saves. I need to start learning how to do animations and animate your videos (keep in mind, it's an entp saying this T-T)
I have great ideas, just by mentioning those, I amaze people. But I suck bigtime at execution. I just chicken out. I come up with 100 excuses on why the idea would fail or why the time is not right. Anybody got any advice?
If you are really committed to the truths you are coming up with, you will give them enough time to bring them into some kind of fruition. This involves a lot of lonely work. If you are looking for ego-strokes or money as the main payoff, that's probably not going to work for an ENTP. The other thing about completing any big project, is that you have to discipline yourself not to get too involved in side projects. The most important thing is neither courage nor brilliance. It is perseverance.
This matured Style ENTP u describe (as a Harmony seeker) is totally me. - My Fe is very Srong, cause my ESFJ Sister. I'm using it very Well in my Teamoriented and People Focused Job: Personaltrainer
If I am an ENTP, which I think I am, I learned Fe early because I was a girl brought up in a traditional household and community. But while this left me looking mature in some ways, my development was neglected in other ways. I was punished for competing and asserting myself.
It all comes down to whether I am interested or not. If interested there is no limit what can be achieved, if not activity will be very close to zero Kelvin.
for humor, I often find myself these days acting out as the devils advocate or contradictory Opinion, but instead of arguing well in favor of that opinion, I bring forth all the fallacies and contradictions of that belief. I think this is one way that a more mature Fe ENTP will like to discuss and explore that differing opinion.
As an 18-year-old ENTP, I often think my tertiary Fe is shown or expressed more than my Ti, or at least it kind of acts as a restraint on my Ti, to some degree. Example: I find I don't relate a great deal to the stereotypes about ENTPs being argumentative, whilst I definitely would enjoy a big discussion of ideas on controversial topics (on the condition of no emotions involved), I tend to predict more negative responses and since I'm concerned with social harmony and keeping peaceful relations, I don't tend to argue as much as question and invite open discussion and sharing. Is this a common case and can anyone else relate to this? I'd love to hear thoughts on this
My ENTP nephew will argue a point, and if I agree with him, he'll argue the opposite side haha! He sees things nobody else sees. He's really funny and super entertaining. He has really high Fe. He's one of my favorite people, I think his personality is very well rounded. He's caring, but never a pushover
Aww that's so lovely!!
The "ok now that you agree with me let me show you where you could do better until you agree with me again" is so ENTP.
He probably values you a lot for that emotional support. Just letting him be himself around you. I wish I had more cool aunts like you growing up ENTP.
Ahahah I do that too! And eventually end up debating both sides with myself. Man I miss debates
Is he truly arguing though or just debating alternative perspectives to get others to see things from a different angle 🤔
Yeah, I hold my tongue a lot
“To deprive a man of his life’s lie is to deprive him of his happiness”
This is the best ENTP video I have seen. ENTP stereotypes really miss the Fe aspect, and can greatly underestimate our drive. Even when ENTPs are "unfocused" they always on a warpath. Focused ENTPs can make ENTJs look like slackers or at least keep up.
Can confirm. My ENTJ friend already understood my hidden potential long before I did. I was always able to keep up with them...when I wanted to. ENTJs are amazing friends. I actually get more miffed when people talk bad about ENTJs than ENTPs.
Warpath? I'm not sure about the martial language. ENTPs can certainly pursue their dreams uncompromisingly though, provided they can fend off distraction.
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@@WorldSocionics Yes. The actualized entp is going to engage in conflict often due to Ne ti and se fi.
@@chuhwey3632 ENTPs don't value Se and Fi is a total blind spot.
You can't be both exploratory/indirect and direct/combative. Can't be both impersonal/principle-driven and personal/relationship-driven
ENTP is a very unique personality, they just thrive on a verbal swordplay.
A game we picked up as boys.
Yes, We Are Cunning Linguists, Master Debaters And Masters Of The Roast.
I did that for a long time, and, I am telling you, it gets old!
@@barbarajloriordan2697 Everything Get’s Old. Even Me At 52. I’m The Oldest ENTP I Know. We Must Not Live Long.
I am 73.
It's very refreshing to see this perspective of us ENTPs; it seems that anything about ENTPs focuses on the "debatability" of ENTPs and chaos surrounding. I've always related to the little articles about developed Fe in ENTPs, and being able to see a video that goes deeper into the idea is interesting to see!
agreed!
Yes! Like we aren’t all trolling d-bags all the time.
i grew up in an athmosphere where i had to pay close attention to the people around me to avoid major conflict and traumatic events from happening.
the effect these expiriences have on me had me questioning being an entp because i tend to avoid confrontation, as opposed to the entp stereotype.
I get this. I always had to solve problems and even prevent them from happening by diffusing the situation before it escalates due to uncontrollable emotions. just to maintain some semblance of peace and harmony growing up
this is my exact situation! we had to develop our Fe earlier in life
This sounds like me 😢
Me too, that's why I don't agree with most solutions that have caused me trauma or pain, and then people get mad when speaking my opinions
As an ENTP, I think “disagreeing without being disagreeable” is what immature ENTPs *think* they’re doing.
“I’m just saying…”
Hi
Mmm I might agree. The most honest people around me (usually my siblings) will tell me I’m being disagreeable & I’m over here thinking I’ve been successful in my Herculean effort to hold back & make sure everyone perceives they are being heard.
Nail on the head!- ENXP
Even as an older ENTP I could misjudge what upsets people, because almost nothing upsets me, but I can adjust well. In practice this means that I am initially more careful with people, until I see where their landmines are.
@@unbelievablebehavior9256 Ha Ha, Yeah, Right? I Think We Improve As We Age If We Don’t Get Shot For Picking An Argument With A Biker.
Naturally, this is the video I resonate with the most. -ENTP that defies the stereotype (and possibly falls back into it by asserting that)
Another Rare Female ENTP. Always Interesting ;)
@@ClubENTP Are we?
@@ainspains3485 Yes, I Just Had Melissa_Talks On My Show And Before That In Episode 8, I Typed My First ENTP Female I’ve Ever Met.
@@ClubENTP she's not an actual ENTP female though. ENTP females exist, the founder of Socionics was one, and so is Felicia Day, Amanda Knox and probably Tina Fey. Melissa isn't, and what Nathan describes here is completely different to Melissa's very apparent Fi Inferior and Se Tertiary.
For example, if an ENTP writes a book, he knows that he will permenantly can/ will use Ne and he also know, that he can bring up all his skills in his book. Book writing is something I dont hear the peaple say to be a natural habit of an ENTP but I have to admit, that I see in Romans and Philosophy books pretty much everything, which an ENTP could wish. Yes, the still need to talk with peaple and exploring the world ( in a more philosophy way) , but everything they do in these catogaries will get used by them for something different, if intended or not
I've naturally wrote stories as a kid and put them in a corner of my homeroom for other kids to read. It got pretty good feedback and they kept requesting the next chapter but I was already onto writing a brand new book lol. Started about 100 new story/ideas but never finished one
My advice to you, try to connect your ideas in a Single book, and you are able to write some great and induvidual books
I can think of my entp friend with developed Fe. His curiosity to explore new ideas leads him to bring out hidden gems out of people around. No matter how shy/reserved those people might be. He effectively picks the right approach and takes time for them to open up.
He always tries to engage people in group gatherings on different activities. But those are just for fun
I think he could direct that kind of power into something large scale
Just for the fun, try to observate him and his vicinity than he stop doing a specific group activity, it would be familiar to me, if the whole group would start to stop the activity too. I knew this scenario specially, if the ENTP himself was the person who brought the group together
@@khuturuwmorow6267 You mean to spotlight the activity that he's doing?
@@winchester_8932 Yep, I gues this discrybes it pretty accectly
This video is a great watch, I am often completely dissatisfied with the "debater" stereotype for ENTP as I am an ENTP who LOVES to debate things with people to get an understanding of how everyone thinks BUT I tend to know people's limits and I will rarely push last them. It is absolutely one of the most annoying thing when people miss an entire aspect of something when making judgement. Honestly, i prefer the stereotype of ENTPs being messy, creative, only low-key chaotic, person who can maintain group harmony and sometimes debates things.
As an ENTP who works as a Software Architect - you are spot on, I never had so much fun at work: I'm bombarded with all kinds of different problems that get me out of my comfort zone and surprise me, I meet a lot of people that I can help, I keep a huge holistic picture of the system in my head and can pull any connections from it when needed. ENTP brethren - find variety with quality over quantity, you won't regret it.
I no longer am doing so but when i was an independent contractor as a mover and delivery guy, i couldn't get enough if it.
Absolutely right! Si+Fe is crucial to understanding an ENTP's values. Social harmony is important to them, but something they are not strong at creating for themselves.
In the same way, if someone says they are an ENTP but showcase harsh, personal judgement (Fi+Se), while limiting the scope of social possibilities (Ni), that ENTP is probably not an ENTP.
100%
@@ClubENTP and that's why Melissa Talks isn't an ENTP.
@@WorldSocionics Is that the reason? I just thought she was sucked up into the 'cancel culture' hype. Like....it didn't happen overnight. You can watch her become more authoritarian and judgmental as time goes on. She seemed more scatter brained and emotionally detached at first. I think she's an ENTP that can't do youtube upload scheduling properly, is starting to spiral outta control slowly....and has been sucked into the cancel culture cult mentality....and trying really hard to become an apologist for it. If i were to guess, I believe soon she'll go full downward ENTP spiral and start over indulging is worldly pleasures.
@@Niveous23 nah, this was clear in her other videos too, such as the one on romantic relationships, and the one where she discusses her social anxiety. Melissa shows every sign of Fi inferior, not Fi blind spot. She questions why someone might like her, and leans towards distrusting the intentions of people, and needing to test intentions before letting people in. She puts up boundaries, and is careful to control what happens on her channel. Being around people she can trust is very important to her, and a place of great pain when she gets that wrong. If you get on her wrong side, she will hold a grudge, and she has really made a point of how she will attack those who upset her INFP friends too. ENTPs really don't care about this sort of thing, if you're positive and friendly, they'll enjoy your company, and will easily let bygones be bygones if you may have had a falling out before. They don't keep score because they suppress their personal judgements and attitudes in favour of logical reasons and expressed emotions.
@@Niveous23 Think about it. Is Melissa an easy-going, risk-friendly person? Does she open up possibilities for their own sake? No, she's a very serious person. She does not take things lightly by nature. That's a clear personality trait from watching her videos. When she's actually pissed off, it's an ongoing, personal thing, up goes the drawbridge. This is xNTJ behaviour, not xNTP behaviour and especially not ENTP. No 'cancel culture hype' or feminism, or whatever is going to change an ENTP's values to look like that. If an ENTP tries to censor, it is because they're buckling under pressure from others to censor, it's not because they are personally offended by something.
it’s so interesting to me how a lot of people in the mbti community will so willingly call an INFJ “the most rational feeler” due to tert Ti, and yet the same credit is not given where to the ENTPs (and also ENFPs). it’s a pattern i’ve seen over and over again. although ENTPs can be a devils-advocate/chaos-monkey, i’m so glad you mentioned ENTP’s need for harmony! (albeit occasional) well done! :)
The INFJ is a master of: 'shutting the fuck up'. People largely just want to FEEL that people are listening. INFJs deliver hard. That doesn't mean the INFJ cares about you, likes you, or is even listening. But they can quietly nod their head and tolerate you. I know this from listening to my INFJ friend complain about other people in their life. Yes, they are hyper sensitive towards others, can separate emotions from events, and sometimes treat people like pet projects trying to fix. But underneath it all is someone that wants to be left alone.
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Out of all the MBTI types, I see ENTPs being misunderstood the most.
Well I think all Ti users don’t think it’s necessary to be understood :)
It seems everyone thinks we're either jerks or clowns :(
It’s true. Our type is almost always portrayed as the most immature and underdeveloped version of ourselves. And most mature ENTPs get mistyped.
@@Piwo-k6v 100% Perfectly Said.
@@christopherbucher7017 We’re Not Only That But So Much More. lol We Play Off Our Surroundings. To The A-hole, We’re An A-Hole, To The Humble We’re A Clown.
This helped explain why ENTP is often listed as compatible with INFJ. I utilize arguments to reach a conclusion and solve problems, not to antagonize others. I also have strong Fe which would pair well with a balanced ENTP. Very enlightening, thank you!
It's very true. The problem with that pair is when the INFJ didn't set up a boundary, and the ENTP totally missed any subtle or not so subtle cues that their INFJ friend is uncomfortable.
I'm infj and my husbands entp, we love solving problems we live volunteering and organizing. He can learn a tabletop game rules very fast we love teaching tabletops games I am good at helping newbies feel comfortable while he can debate the semantics of ths game so that it's clear to everyone why they are the way they are. Our lives are easy and flow, also our kids have a very full understanding of our positioning on literally everything they ask us about.
@@Niveous23 Exactly, the INFJ has to have very clear boundaries, which I think is beneficial when dealing with all other personality types.
Careers encompassing variety bringing out ENTJ side of ENTP. So true.
Social harmony is important to me because I want people around me to be having a good experience. But if I determine I’m the only person giving energy to generating/maintaining harmony or if there is someone I know to be toxic who I cannot run interference for then I’m probably more likely than other fe users to stop directing my energy towards harmony. Two reasons: 1) I am not going to fight a battle I don’t think I can win; 2) I don’t want to be associated with someone’s toxic behavior - that doesn’t serve me well and also sends a message that others should tolerate it, too.
I’ve Always Thought Of Myself As A Peace Maker But It Depends On The Value Of The People. Sometimes We Light The Bridge On Fire.
ENTPs are, and I'm willing to be wrong here, are one of the few empath types that can turn their emotions on and off....like a light switch. I'v had INFJ and INFP people tell me that, "just being around so-and-so is emotionally draining". And I could never understand that. I'd be like, "Just cut em' off" And I'v learned that what I consider something as simple as, "Oh....fuck this circus. I'mma tune this idiot out" is something other types can't do. I have no anxiety around them either, because I don't mind making a scene, and telling them to fuck off. Other empath types also seem very anxious about 'causing a scene'.
I don't see things as battles tbh and I certainly don't want to "win".Life might be a game but there aren't any winners imo, unless learning is winning but in that case we all win, so how can there be winners if there are no losers? Ultimately regardless of the outcome I think its about having fun living your idea of life and a little conflict & questioning is fine bc its not about whos the winner but what we learn. But that's my opinion idk
@@tahsina.c spoken like a true ENTP. it's amazing how pathetic and surface level the MBTI community is of ENTPs as a whole. i don't debate to 'win'. i do it cuz it's fun. i learn, they learn, i get better, they get better. what's not to love?
Yes, I suppose you could call it maturity. Maturity in it's truest sense is experience. And us ENTPs are gluttons for experiences, good and bad ones. I also want to point out that debating others loses it's zest with time. People don't like conflict usually. Even if we tone down the approaches towards debate. ENTPs don't stop loving debates, they usually pull back because people have very little to offer us over time. We're not stupid. We see that people don't like it. We FEEL that people don't like it. We understand they wont engage us because of conflict aversion. It's like trying to squeeze a rock for water. It's a little depressing, but life moves on.
Growing up in a chaotic home, I had no choice but to abuse my Fe to bridge people together. Harmony creation came naturally to me. And while I loved fighting with ideas, I never liked emotionally filled yelling matches. So I had the experiences, but it never prevented me from starting arguments for the sake of hashing out ideas. I guess you could say I didn't find the two activities mutually exclusive. I can understand that some people could see both activities as hypocritical. I will agree though that over time the ENTP will have less reasons to argue. They aren't trying to understand your point of view as much. They've already gleamed a lot about others like yourself and put you into a box, much like an INFJ would do. They wont stop you from offering your POV, but wont bother as much to pry it outta you. The love of debate an ENTP is stereotyped for is truly a love of knowledge. And as an ENTP grows, he/she will find other ways to acquire that knowledge. I don't mean for it to sound harsh, but older ENTPs have weighed the pros and cons of debating you.....and have probably found it not worth the effort....and it's not just one, but many reasons why.
I'm happy that I have a friend group of an entj, an enfp, an intp and more entps who love debating my ideas with me so I never have to pull back the debate.
Thank you, it was a pleasure reading this passage
Can this just become an ENTP channel, your analyses on the type is just amazing
The last point, about finding a job that provides stability and constant stimulation, really resonated with me.
It took me a LONG time to find a career that satisfies my ENTP nature, but I’ve finally landed on being an chemical incident investigator and inspector (aka industrial hygienist) for OSHA. It’s perfect in being a very stable government job that gets me out meeting new people, constantly seeing and learning new things, and occasionally sparring in court. I recommend this to any ENTP with a background in biology, chemistry, or the trades.
Will ad this to my bucket list.
Or for other ENTP that didn’t learned in this fill. I think Hospitality industry is also a good choice. It’s offer you opportunity to meet new people every day, learn little things every second. When you bored you can switch to other jobs easily. But the problem is the pay is not that high and it’s mostly short lifetime contract.
That sounds really good, especially the stability part. I'm not an ENTJ, but I do crave variety (or a regular rotation of duties at least) in my position, and a lot of lab jobs are hugely repetitive, even to the point of causing me to question the value of college degrees. I worked in product development at one point, and it was my favorite job. I'm trying to find another one, but it is tough going.
@@FlamingCockatiel "a lot of lab jobs are hugely repetitive" - this was one of my biggest issues as an ENTP with an undergrad degree in biology. The only jobs were low level lab techs, which consisted of mostly independent, repetitive cookbook work. I was bored to tears.
@@laskyam You know it. The process of getting the degree (chemistry for me) was more interesting than most jobs it got me. I was micromanaged at one of those lab jobs, and I was/am ready to leave science work because of it + repetitiveness. However, there is a popular idea that science degree = good job and I had someone at a landscaping company tell me to seek work in my field. How did you happen to get your job? I apply for what interests me (product development and technical writing), but, alas, they all want experienced people and/or an advanced degree plus a salesman personality.
@@FlamingCockatiel I decided I wanted to phase out of lab work, so I did some research on what non-lab jobs I could pursue with my background. After some soul searching, I looked for grad school programs that would help me change careers. I was fortunate to find one (environmental and community health) that was local, cheap, and had a good relationship with some big employers.
With a Chem degree, you could apply to my job (industrial hygienist) without any additional credentials.
It was pretty surprising for me to learn that a lot of people view things they see in life as "good" or "bad". I almost never think like this, for me it's more like "correct" or "incorrect".
Eventually I came to realize that different people can see the same set of facts and come to different conclusions whether or not it's "good" or "bad". I guess my superpower is that I'm able to see all of these perspectives without being personally offended by it, and then able to get to the underlying truth that satisfies all.
0:51 Yep that's right, that's me.
As an ENTP who values morality and ethics (though not strictly adhering to it), my approach in life is "The end justifies the means". Karma is real.
I want everybody to be happy, they should get what they deserve. Karma is amoral.
Shakespeare was an ENTP. They don't get credit for him but they should.
I think so too
Particularly love this video! Stereo type videos can be funny but it's nice to see helpful educational stuff that gives understanding.
Silence can be a devastating rhetorical tool.
My hair isnt always messy.
Now debate me on it.
"isn't"
You seriously expect any of us to debate you on that amazingly ambiguous statement?
@@Raage. Yes.
But sometimes it is, right? And when isn't it messy?
You're in denial
As an ENTP, I don't claim first. NO ONE SHALL BE
As an ENTP I really love your videos. You actually seem to understand ENTPs in a way I rarely see. I've turned 31 and I have found stability in getting a degree in Physics. I'm a semester in and really enjoy the day to day learning I feel in command of while having the stability of good grades. I have learned to hold off on debating and actually listen and tap into feeling this past year, which has helped ground me. When first meeting people or in fights with my husband (INFJ) I do resort to a debator and some times manipulative role (getting less as I just say out loud "You just did this and I feel myself want to use it against you just to take back control) because there's a thrill of discovery in meeting people, but it is easier to actually care what people are saying in a feelings way rather than just as a mental stimulation game. The non-judgement is a key point and rarely focused on. I value all opinions and ideas so equally that it is a way of caring and empathizing with humanity as a whole and individually. I do think my husband helped to balance me because he's so accepting and calm so I get to see what that's like every day then strive to discover how to embody some of those traits. We do love a challenge ;)
Once Again You Crushed It. Thank You. Since I’ve Been Aware Of The Stereo Types We ENTPs Display, I’ve Made It My Mission To Elevate The ENTPs To Use It As A Challenge. We Defy Anyone Who Attempts To Put Us Into A Box. The Only Box I’ll Ever Be Put In Will Be Made Of Pine.
When are you publishing that book?
@@ainspains3485 I’ve Paused Work On It Because It Deals With Only 4 Personality Types. Now I Will Be Incorporating All 16 Types. I Have So Many Projects Including Inventions.
I’m an INTJ,my partner an ENTP,is a green beret, a negotiator was involved in strategizing Bin Laden capture, an international business ( Classified job), master of multiple languages and a member of multiple IQ society, and is still crazy and childlike when it comes to learning vast quantities of material to spit it out in 1 page., but highly undisciplined
Data scientist here. Love this field!!i love especially looking at different social phenomenons througg the lens of many different models...and how ideas can connect from very different aspect of the world through abstract frameworks.. its def a field that requires constant learning
ENTP, I absolutely LOVE finding win-win scenarios! It is the ultimate problem solver. I also find debate a useful way to learn other perspectives. I always keep it friendly and I always stop if I sense the other person is getting annoyed.
Why I love my mature Entp. He's just so organized in his work and how he manages things. He is also so disciplined in his day to day goals and tasks. I love that and he inspires me, this coming from an Infj who just loves to wing it with life.
I suggest, computer science, and spending all day long in a cool university campus, there's a lot of people and computer science is always novelty even after finishing.
As an ENTP, I commit to change ;) And I'm glad you brought up structure.. for the longest time, I thought I was an ENTJ. In fact, I get along famously with ENTJs, since we're always on the same wavelength wrt organization and drive.
Can I borrow a cup of your soul then? lol My bestie is an ENTJ, and I love them. And I ...can...keep up. But it's a struggle. I find it hard to be motivated, but they seem to pull motivation outta thin air.
@@Niveous23 I find that ENTJs are motivated by goals. As long as they're hitting their milestones, getting their team to get those tasks done, they're happy. Me, I need a vision. I can weather obstacles, setbacks with a compelling vision. Without that, I'm dead in the water, zero motivation.
I so appreciate this presentation, as I feel so tired of hearing about the normal ENTP stereotype. I would also like to hear more about the Fi trickster function, which I do believe is finally accessible to ENTP. What do you think of that idea - that Fi is also accessible to ENTP?
if i'm correct, Fi is actually our blind (PoLR) function being as it's in the seventh slot. I just started learning about this facet of mbti, but it sure explains a lot lol. as an entp, it's so hard to know how i feel about anything! this goes for my delayed reaction to sad things happening to me, and it also makes it near impossible to develop a firm personal stance on a given topic. we naturally see exceptions to sweeping moral statements, and we're much more curious than we are judgemental, both of which make us excellent advocates for understanding the people and things deemed "bad" by the community but also leave us with very few absolutes in our lives.
I agree that some ENTPs find it difficult to know what they feel.
I think, though, that as life goes on, we all go through crises. During times of crisis, the unconscious may take over, and parts of ourselves that we could not see in the past become visible to us. Life affords us these opportunities so that we can come to know more of ourselves. I’m an older ENTP (in my seventies), and I do believe that life has turned me “inside out” during several periods of time.
In those times, when I may have lived more from other parts of the personality (subconscious or unconscious) I may actually have seemed more like an INTJ or even an INTP or even an INFP. During those periods, hidden functions may have emerged.
I think that ENTP goes on its relentless questioning and opposing precisely because it is searching for something internal that it can believe in. The Fi is the secret lover on whose behalf the whole quest is conducted.
I think that it is important to recognize that all the functions are defined by their relationship with the Hero function. For example, if Fi is hidden, it is hidden to the NE-TI hero and parent. If a child does not receive the affection and attention from the parent that it craves, it will act out - perhaps becoming a trickster. Playing tricks may be the only way in which the child obtains the parent’s attention.
Along the same line, if a child is repeatedly ignored, cast off, and scorned by the parent, it may take refuge in being a “bad child” - that is, a demon - just because that is the only way that the child can get the parent to listen. For this reason, I think that it is very important to cultivate the parts of ourselves that we may tend to judge, avoid, shun, or scorn. All those functions can become our savior insofar as they help to complete and even resurrect the personality.
That’s just my opinion, though. Others may see something that I am missing or may see things differently.
@@auntbeast9640 ^this
I'm an INTJ with a close ENTP friend, and I have to say he simply cannot relate to Fi the way I do. To him everything is exceptions, bending the rules, and 'yeah but what if'. To me an Fi conviction is unbreakable, no ifs ands or buts.
@@EresirThe1st I am hearing that your ENTP friend has a hard time relating to the world except through construct, which can always be changed. I think I that life provides opportunities in which all types can grow and change. I’m ENTP, in my seventies, and I do have some unbreakable convictions. One for example, is the belief that within each person is a being that is divinely intelligent, creative, resilient, and, given compassion, able to find its way out of any entanglement that it may have created for itself. Another is to look for the source of interpersonal difficulties in myself because the willingness to discover one’s mistakes sets us all free. A third is to understand the difference between saying something that is harmful and something that may be painful to hear, and to commit myself to doing no harm. Another is that each person’s spiritual journey is the most important aspect of their life. I am ENTP through and though, and yet I hold these beliefs as incontrovertible.
I love discussions, I love worldview discussions :D. I also love negotiation, I've seen so many times people changing their stand about something important. Sometimes I cause that. I mean - not forcefully! This makes me very proud of myself. It's like - everybody needs to grow up. Sometimes we're unconcious or we conciously push away something important. It's better to confront it and to decide calmly what to do about it. Not to run away all the time, hiding in the fog.
Excellent as usual 👌
An ENTP implementation of that first quote: "I don't agree with you, but I think we're coming at the same thing from two different directions, and I'm curious as to how that happened. Let's see if we can't figure out why we're both approaching the same solution from different angles."
I'd say that the second quote is better phrased as, "As long as we both want to see the problem solved, what seems like conflict is often one shift in perspective away from cooperation."
No change to the third although I do think that empathy demands that you DO both agree that a given problem needs to be solved.
As someone who is an ENTP when in a good mood, my favorite job was one where I was required to learn a great deal about extremely complex things quickly and then write them up such that readers would grasp the jist of what happened ten times faster and react a certain way. I LOVED it -- this was sci-fi level sh*t, too. Pay me to learn hairy things and then tell other people all about them? Dream job. And the constant influx of new information meant that I wasn't much distracted and turned into the workaholic I love to be when the idea buffet is big enough.
I read about warp bubbles yesterday. The world is filled with crazy sci-fi/borderline physics stuff out there. It's a big world of infinite questions, and I love it.
Thank you for this perspective ❤
You always seem fascinated when you talk about ENTP, I almost start thinking that you are an INFJ
Very good point.... i did notice that he does have an interest in ENT but he did say that his roommate is ENTP. Also who isnt fascinated with ENTP's ?
You have a real understanding of ENTPs beyond the "they like to debate." I was diagnosed as an ENTP (hehe) by an Industrial Psychologist - I had always self-tested as INTP but it didn't quite fit The Unifier and the Disruptor are actually in service of the same goal - the correct result, which we see almost immediately and just need to bring others along. For example, ENTPs are sticklers for getting the definitions agreed upon before a debate/discussion, so we aren't wasting time. In this same vein, I can see an ENTP spotting the cracks in a group, prying those cracks to break the group apart, enjoying the chaos swirling around, and then facilitating the hashing out of the differences and meshing the people back together in a way with no cracks and optimized for success. There is, of course, no plan for how you'll bring them back together, but there IS confidence. It's jazz, baby. I also don't mind letting others take the credit for it too, often that's a bargaining chip you have to play in service of the goal. (But that person better value me and my contribution) Regarding structure, I need it, but I need to create it. This gives me the safe zone within which to let myself play freely. Boundaries imposed by others are good - for others...I'll treat them like a buffet, and maybe like a challenge. It's fun to break a rule and get the rule maker to agree with you afterwards. But without any boundaries I get lost and overwhelmed. I can go deep (baby), but need to limit the width. Maybe I'll do one of those videos and send it to you. Plans plans plans...ENTP, so don't hold your breath. Where this video didn't quite hit the mark for me is the constant need for new...I crave expertise and that can't be achieved with flitting about. Hmm, maybe expertise in 1 thing is enough and that opens the door for the rest to be new. I'll think on this.
Always spot on with ENTP’s 👍🏾
Thank you for this video. As an ENTP working for an insurance company in the position of a recruiting specialist I totaly agree with you. The job garantees stability and income but at the same time I have to learn constantly and meet new people and solve problems (like getting more women to work in a working space dominated by men).
I would not survie in this job without beeing structured or having a plan, to be successful. This success allows me to negotiate about my working conditions: enough flexibility and trainings, to develop my skills. Although I am finishing my master thesis in a completely different subject: philosophy, which is why I'm not bored yet :D Learing how to negotiate, to value others and their skills, their perspectives, is necessary to use our full potential as ENTPs - and be happy too ;)
These quotes are fantastic. I’m using them. I hate orthodoxy but I don’t always challenge it in a way that is effective
I'm so really happy, to see that video. Sometimes I just get tired of see only stereotypes, not going deeply and wisely in that topic. I start from the end. In my job, I'm really much organised and hate to see mess all around. Everything have to be logic and structured. I'm really getting mad, when I notice some kind of chaos, resulting from neglect and lack of focuse and too much slopiness. I have of variety patients with many disease entities. I have chaos on mind, when sometimes wanna explain what I think, but really organised in every step in major of cases. Secondly, yeah we admire chaos and debates... Yeah, it depends. For maybe 75% of my time, I'm peacemaker. I always say what I think and sometimes "fight" to prove it that I'm right, but usually I wanna to everyone stay calm and harmonized. Maybe it' s not on my very first place on to-do-list, to make other people happy, but I don't like fights for reason of fighting. It really drains of energy, that bad energy stays with longer time. Sometimes I say, yeah that' s so stupid, but not always.sometimes I drop the converstation and argument, when I predict that's clueless. I can be dyplomatic and really doing that very well, if I want, because of my empathy. I can really get in some shoes and feel his/her situation and I do not have to agree with his/her opinion. What is the most funny, me judging myself, really calm, sometimes almost heartless, really can be the most sensitive for someone's fate and needs. The most needed, especially. So yeah, it really depends on situation.
I love your videos btw! Keep up the good job!
I find that almost regardless of what it is, I’m satisfied with learning it to 90% mastery, because I am interested in other challenges instead and also view it like riding a bike. If I ever did need to fully master some thing, I’m 90% there already. Life‘s too short to focus on one thing. I love, love, love new challenges and learning new things, but I don’t have the attention span to focus only on that I don’t care about getting the paper certificate at the end. If I’ve satisfied myself, I’m satisfied.
I think that entps might also channel this disciplinary side whenever they feel like it will open up more opportunities in their future (like a good college degree). Not because of the te-dom’s specific goal or vision but rather because of this need to ensure that they’ll be able to do anything that they want to without being held back by a lack of skill or the lack of a paper that accredits their skills
I like very much the way you do your films about ENTP. You see in us something, not only this jackass, being reckless, having no clue, playing all the time like a child. Thank you.
Oh yeaaaaaaah i love this video !!!! 😍 Well done, thanks!
Damn you Nathan, you revealed our secrets and now my infj gf is jealous(read:pissed) at me!(she made me put the exclamation point!(that one too))
super insightful ! thanks a lot.
that's kinda inspiring, i always wanted to do something like that but i'm too bad with people on 1x1, groups are easier to manage
i think i may try it again in the future, what's the point of being your best version if people around you aren't their best as well?
i noticed a pattern in myself and ESTP friends that when we are at our best, everyone around us gets better but at our worse we bring everyone down with us. it's an unconscious process but if we manage to bring it into the light and use it for good, the people around us could grow
kinda challenging though, but i'll get there
Thank you for this!!! It always bother me how ENTPs are always described as a hurricane of chaos. I've already done the test 4 times and I'm most definitely an ENTP but I'm very much capable of staying focus or NOT irritating people 24/7. Of course we DO fit the steriotypes in one way or another... but at this point a lot of people think that we're this cartoon like character who happens to be real. Although that's funny it can be annoying.
One cannot simply avoid watching an ENTP video.
That's deep about ENTP and I totally agree.
This was SO timely. Currently dealing with a 'win at any cost' type. At first, this person reminded me of myself (ENFJ) until I talked to someone who left the server because they didn't want to deal with them. I started to realize there's some disconnect between recognizing and respecting other opinions... maybe I should look more into ENTP, immature.
I’m very sure I’m and ENTP. I resonate with Ne, Ti, Fe and to a lesser degree Si in that order. But I’ve ever identified with the arguing for arguing sake. I can play devils advocate and will see and argue all sides of and issue, but usually in my head.
There is no single word wrong in this video. You just like listed one third of my aspirations.
Great video bro 👌🏽
brilliant, thank you
Is there any job like “Ideas seller”? because seriously i watch a movie and i take some details and points to create a bridge and in less than an hour i have a whole new plot for a sequence with the conflict point and cast, or soundtrack like anything! the same for tv shows os books but of course i don’t have any skills or ability to do it but i know can show it and sell it and even work with a team during the development with some dynamic it’s a DREAM JOB challenging my creativity, working with people etc etc
I wish I could still have ENTP hair.
Also, I fix machines for people. All kinds of machines. I do not however, computer . . . ?
As an ENTP who loves watching ENTP videos: my attention span is really short and I find myself unable to focus throughout your videos even though I know you've got a lot of great points from the little things my brain saves. I need to start learning how to do animations and animate your videos (keep in mind, it's an entp saying this T-T)
I have great ideas, just by mentioning those, I amaze people. But I suck bigtime at execution. I just chicken out. I come up with 100 excuses on why the idea would fail or why the time is not right. Anybody got any advice?
If you are really committed to the truths you are coming up with, you will give them enough time to bring them into some kind of fruition. This involves a lot of lonely work. If you are looking for ego-strokes or money as the main payoff, that's probably not going to work for an ENTP. The other thing about completing any big project, is that you have to discipline yourself not to get too involved in side projects. The most important thing is neither courage nor brilliance. It is perseverance.
This matured Style ENTP u describe (as a Harmony seeker) is totally me. - My Fe is very Srong, cause my ESFJ Sister. I'm using it very Well in my Teamoriented and People Focused Job: Personaltrainer
If I am an ENTP, which I think I am, I learned Fe early because I was a girl brought up in a traditional household and community. But while this left me looking mature in some ways, my development was neglected in other ways. I was punished for competing and asserting myself.
It all comes down to whether I am interested or not. If interested there is no limit what can be achieved, if not activity will be very close to zero Kelvin.
I think the reason I don't always relate to ENTPs, is because I have developed my functions. This makes me feel pretty good
For jobs: criminal law, trust me
for humor, I often find myself these days acting out as the devils advocate or contradictory Opinion, but instead of arguing well in favor of that opinion, I bring forth all the fallacies and contradictions of that belief.
I think this is one way that a more mature Fe ENTP will like to discuss and explore that differing opinion.
Ne Fe is a very powerful social force it's ridiculous
Not to mention combined with high Ti
As an 18-year-old ENTP, I often think my tertiary Fe is shown or expressed more than my Ti, or at least it kind of acts as a restraint on my Ti, to some degree. Example: I find I don't relate a great deal to the stereotypes about ENTPs being argumentative, whilst I definitely would enjoy a big discussion of ideas on controversial topics (on the condition of no emotions involved), I tend to predict more negative responses and since I'm concerned with social harmony and keeping peaceful relations, I don't tend to argue as much as question and invite open discussion and sharing.
Is this a common case and can anyone else relate to this? I'd love to hear thoughts on this
Rule no. 69 💀💀
Also me watching this video at 7 A.M: "Heyyy. My hair isn't like...ohhh. Nvm."
“Chaos monkey”
Me and ENTP with ADHD: we know but hey
Can you do a video about what kind of crime/ilegal thing would each personality do?
Yessss, someone gets it!
Method 👏 to the 👏 madness 👏 !! 🙇♀️🧐
So I’m a mature ENTP, thats cool, thanks mate.
100% true lol It can be both a curse and a blessing sometimes X)
This was great! Are you going to do it for all the types?
Now i am satisfied that am ENTP, only that Mature Entps are rare so i thought I'm not Entp, but now I'm sure I'm a mature Entp
I like the ENTP hair. XD
Interesting
I feel so understood :)
Rule #69, ha.
You should see my hair lol
Where can I meet other ENTPs like me since the other ones are extremely boring to me due to their stupid fake and flat sense of calmness?
Yes sir
What is your personality type, Nathan??
Oh shoot, that Fe-mature ENTP would be a bamf leader
Baby boy entp 😈
What is your type? I always wonder
Interesting 🤔
The fact that entps have fe means they can become sociopaths, not me being a 8w7 entp
Unity
Disciplined
Win-win
Meet new ppl and new skills
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