Incorrect. It is well spread over the web that Klaus was inspired by Bowie's costume. So he decided to get a similar one. But it was too expensive but he managed to get a deal for the fraction of the price. Bowie's suit was round $1500 @ the time. But Klaus is more iconic for the suit.
DGalacticMan it may be spread around the web but it's completely false. I was there! Klaus Nomi was performing for years with his Bauhaus look before he and David Bowie met coincidentally when evening at the Mudd Club. You're right about David Bowie's costume being pricey. He had some Broadway prop designer make it. It was Klaus and Joey Arias who also shopped for the other costumes in particular the man dress that David Bowie wore. They also bought the cute plush dog and put a TV in its mouth. That was all due to their creative input. And look what became of them today they only mention klaus's name and not even Joey Arias. That is a form of plagiarism.
@@williamlove6674 I don't know what really happened but I will say that whatever this woman is saying is coming from her mouth. I don't see Bowie standing there saying it. I'm sure Bowie would absolutely give credit where credit is due. He was very self-effacing and humble, and had a lot of respect for other artists and their contributions. He had no reason to ever lie. The guy didn't give a shit what other people thought of what he did. He was creating for himself, as all artists do.
Actually, the more direct influence is from one of his backing singers in that performance, Klaus Nomi. Who Bowie signed after watching him perform in a cabaret.
Bowie's costume was lifted from a 1920s outfit worn by avant garde artist Tristan Tzara. Bowie was not an original, he was highly studious about the past and made money out of bringing it to the mainstream.
Just came home from the exhibit and I was absolutely blown out of the sky. Such majesty and beauty and BOWIE. This specific piece was one of if not the favorite piece to me, difficult to say when you see just how many pieces of jaw dropping Work is included in the exhibit, et.al. The man was aRock & Roll *GOD,* hands down, no argument, *GOD.*. One of the single most beautiful Human Beings we have ever had unworthy luck to have been in the Presence of for ANY time at all WHATSOEVER.
Sorry to inform you all, but the Berlin based art movement was called the Bauhaus. That is specifically where Klaus Nomi who was also from Berlin got the inspiration for his look, which David Bowie then followed from a costume sketch from the Bauhaus archives in Berlin. He was doing his look for years before he coincidentally met David Bowie one night at the Mudd Club. David Bowie was aware of Klaus through friends of his already in Berlin. I saw the exhibition in Paris which referenced thar Klaus had gotten his inspiration from David Bowie and that David Bowie had discovered him dancing in the window of Fiorucci. This is all false and completely made up. How do I know, I was there! Further Klaus and Joey Arias were given artistic control to go out and buy costumes like the man dress that David Bowie wore. They also bought the cute little plush dog and put a TV in its mouth. So sad that they are unsung heroes. They really gave artistic direction to the appearance.
Thanx for the respectful clearing information. Nomi was treated really badly and misused and than not even mentioned further on in history by Bowie, like many other artists who helped to create the phenomenon Bowie, in his background never been thanked or mentioned in adequate way. Or does anybody know how many titles not only Chics Nile Rodgers composed and played for him or that Fripp played essential basics of Heroes? Nomi was too hot as competition in style and singing so after that performances like Man who sold the world there should have been a tour by Bowie including Nomi, but who knows not me - Bowie never contacted Nomi again... And other artists also still are in the shade of the ignorant non mentioning of the Thin White Duke..
@@ThomGeigenschrey There was never a tour planned and ot sure about Klaus being treated badly? Bowie was never one to hang about. He always wanted to try different things, thought you'd know that.
.....i find it sad that she did not mention the person who made the costume....i believe her 1st name is NATASHA....i forgot her last name....i was lucky enough to photograph and interview JOEY ARIAS....and he told me his costume and KLAUS'S costume were by THIERRY MUGLER....they cost 100 bucks each...BOWIE gave them the money to go shopping....originally KLAUS was NOT supposed to be in the performance...it was supposed to be...TONI BASIL...who had choreographed THE DIAMOND DOGS tour for BOWIE...she was already booked working with BETTE MIDLER...so i can kind of see DB not being that hype about KLAUS...i find it rather sad that even though the exhibition was amazing not enough credit was given to the people that created all those wonderful costumes for him...him being such a style icon that everyone and their mother is always referencing....
@@CuirPhotodotNet Joey and Klaus got there "man dresses" for them at Henri Bendel on 57th Street. They were women's dresses that were designed for rich women in their 40s and 50s. They were on sale that I remember I don't remember that Thierry Mugler was the designer but perhaps he was. It would be quite a coincidence because Joey Arias has always adored him and depended on him for styling and some costumes later on. The other rigid paper mache type costume for Bowie was not made by Natasha who resides in England. The costume was designed by Bowie, with Mark Ravitz of Brooks-Van Horn Costume Company.
@@basilisk3148 I love David Bowie's work just as much and enjoyed the collab, so I would have appreciated it. However, at the time, I was very much a kid, barely about 8 years old.
René Moncayo yes indeed it was Bauhaus. If you go to the Bauhaus archives in Berlin you can see the costume sketches that Bowie used to make his costume. Klaus Nomi whole book was based on the Bauhaus and he had been doing it years before he met David Bowie coincidentally one night at the Mudd Club. I was there!
For everyone arguing about whether Bowie stole ideas or copied Klaus Nomi, this may shed some light on it all: www.papermag.com/david-bowie-klaus-nomi-joey-arias-snl-1549090218.html
bowie stole this costume directly from Klaus Nomi....RIP Bowie...but shame on him for doing so....not just the costume but Klaus Nomi's whole shtick...Nomi was way out there , but incredibly different especially for his time...
This performance was more of a collaboration. He didn't wear that or the other costumes from this SNL appearance anywhere else at anytime. It was a one-off. He knew how to collaborate. He didn't need to rip anyone off.
It wasn't stolen, but Bowie wasn't the creator of this costume either. This costume comes from Bauhaus school, and Klaus Nomi was heavily influenced by it. Nomi had been wearing his iconic suit way before he met Bowie, but we can't say it was stolen when Nomi wasn't the creator of that style either. However, Nomi and Arias (guy in red dress) were the ones behind the creation and pretty much the whole artistic aesthetic of this presentation, but unfortunately they receive little to no credit for it, because they're obscure, less famous artists compared to Bowie.
His "backing singers" are Arias and Nomi (who was the actual inspiration for the costume)!
Incorrect. It is well spread over the web that Klaus was inspired by Bowie's costume. So he decided to get a similar one. But it was too expensive but he managed to get a deal for the fraction of the price. Bowie's suit was round $1500 @ the time. But Klaus is more iconic for the suit.
Marsh The Mime Joey and Klaus sound Angelic together
DGalacticMan it may be spread around the web but it's completely false. I was there! Klaus Nomi was performing for years with his Bauhaus look before he and David Bowie met coincidentally when evening at the Mudd Club. You're right about David Bowie's costume being pricey. He had some Broadway prop designer make it. It was Klaus and Joey Arias who also shopped for the other costumes in particular the man dress that David Bowie wore. They also bought the cute plush dog and put a TV in its mouth. That was all due to their creative input. And look what became of them today they only mention klaus's name and not even Joey Arias. That is a form of plagiarism.
@@williamlove6674 I don't know what really happened but I will say that whatever this woman is saying is coming from her mouth. I don't see Bowie standing there saying it. I'm sure Bowie would absolutely give credit where credit is due. He was very self-effacing and humble, and had a lot of respect for other artists and their contributions. He had no reason to ever lie. The guy didn't give a shit what other people thought of what he did. He was creating for himself, as all artists do.
Actually, the more direct influence is from one of his backing singers in that performance, Klaus Nomi. Who Bowie signed after watching him perform in a cabaret.
+amb1dexican thar is exactly what it was, that lady is just spewing out bullshit...
Actually that is not quite true. It was Nomi that was very fascinated by Bowie's costume that he ordered one very similar after that show!!
Bowie's costume was lifted from a 1920s outfit worn by avant garde artist Tristan Tzara. Bowie was not an original, he was highly studious about the past and made money out of bringing it to the mainstream.
Actually it was quite the opposite, Nomi based his costume on David's.
Never let a lack of knowledge stop you from accusing a person of spewing bullshit.
You're wrong. And an embarrassment.
Just came home from the exhibit and I was absolutely blown out of the sky. Such majesty and beauty and BOWIE. This specific piece was one of if not the favorite piece to me, difficult to say when you see just how many pieces of jaw dropping Work is included in the exhibit, et.al.
The man was aRock & Roll *GOD,* hands down, no argument, *GOD.*. One of the single most beautiful Human Beings we have ever had unworthy luck to have been in the Presence of for ANY time at all WHATSOEVER.
Sorry to inform you all, but the Berlin based art movement was called the Bauhaus. That is specifically where Klaus Nomi who was also from Berlin got the inspiration for his look, which David Bowie then followed from a costume sketch from the Bauhaus archives in Berlin. He was doing his look for years before he coincidentally met David Bowie one night at the Mudd Club. David Bowie was aware of Klaus through friends of his already in Berlin. I saw the exhibition in Paris which referenced thar Klaus had gotten his inspiration from David Bowie and that David Bowie had discovered him dancing in the window of Fiorucci. This is all false and completely made up. How do I know, I was there! Further Klaus and Joey Arias were given artistic control to go out and buy costumes like the man dress that David Bowie wore. They also bought the cute little plush dog and put a TV in its mouth. So sad that they are unsung heroes. They really gave artistic direction to the appearance.
Thanx for the respectful clearing information. Nomi was treated really badly and misused and than not even mentioned further on in history by Bowie, like many other artists who helped to create the phenomenon Bowie, in his background never been thanked or mentioned in adequate way. Or does anybody know how many titles not only Chics Nile Rodgers composed and played for him or that Fripp played essential basics of Heroes? Nomi was too hot as competition in style and singing so after that performances like Man who sold the world there should have been a tour by Bowie including Nomi, but who knows not me - Bowie never contacted Nomi again... And other artists also still are in the shade of the ignorant non mentioning of the Thin White Duke..
www.papermag.com/david-bowie-klaus-nomi-joey-arias-snl-1549090218.html
@@ThomGeigenschrey There was never a tour planned and ot sure about Klaus being treated badly? Bowie was never one to hang about. He always wanted to try different things, thought you'd know that.
.....i find it sad that she did not mention the person who made the costume....i believe her 1st name is NATASHA....i forgot her last name....i was lucky enough to photograph and interview JOEY ARIAS....and he told me his costume and KLAUS'S costume were by THIERRY MUGLER....they cost 100 bucks each...BOWIE gave them the money to go shopping....originally KLAUS was NOT supposed to be in the performance...it was supposed to be...TONI BASIL...who had choreographed THE DIAMOND DOGS tour for BOWIE...she was already booked working with BETTE MIDLER...so i can kind of see DB not being that hype about KLAUS...i find it rather sad that even though the exhibition was amazing not enough credit was given to the people that created all those wonderful costumes for him...him being such a style icon that everyone and their mother is always referencing....
@@CuirPhotodotNet Joey and Klaus got there "man dresses" for them at Henri Bendel on 57th Street. They were women's dresses that were designed for rich women in their 40s and 50s. They were on sale that I remember I don't remember that Thierry Mugler was the designer but perhaps he was. It would be quite a coincidence because Joey Arias has always adored him and depended on him for styling and some costumes later on. The other rigid paper mache type costume for Bowie was not made by Natasha who resides in England. The costume was designed by Bowie, with Mark Ravitz of Brooks-Van Horn Costume Company.
klaus nomi FTW
Backing singers?! More like Co-Stars the ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS Joey Arias and Klaus NoMi.
I remember this from when I was like 8 years old....wow!...Rob
This is soooooooo wonderful............
Klaus Nomi;)
Truly Amazing
I wonder what the issue is with just saying it was inspired by Klaus Nomi?
Because Nomi copied Bowie. So it's facts that are the issue.
@@droppedelbow No, Klaus Nomi and Joey Arias designed the costume
Bowie fans can't accept he wasn't the genius/creator of anything he used or touched, that's the issue
@@basilisk3148 I love David Bowie's work just as much and enjoyed the collab, so I would have appreciated it. However, at the time, I was very much a kid, barely about 8 years old.
David Bowie is *Here*
Yea he got this from Nomi nobody else.
Saw it in chicago....get your ass to new york!!!!!
Wasn't it Bauhaus
René Moncayo yes indeed it was Bauhaus. If you go to the Bauhaus archives in Berlin you can see the costume sketches that Bowie used to make his costume. Klaus Nomi whole book was based on the Bauhaus and he had been doing it years before he met David Bowie coincidentally one night at the Mudd Club. I was there!
For everyone arguing about whether Bowie stole ideas or copied Klaus Nomi, this may shed some light on it all: www.papermag.com/david-bowie-klaus-nomi-joey-arias-snl-1549090218.html
People that are saying that was inspired by Klaus Nomi... Even Klaus would not say that, actually he said the contraire, so calm down
Bowie got the look from nomi and that was didn't mention nomi.
bowie stole this costume directly from Klaus Nomi....RIP Bowie...but shame on him for doing so....not just the costume but Klaus Nomi's whole shtick...Nomi was way out there , but incredibly different especially for his time...
This performance was more of a collaboration. He didn't wear that or the other costumes from this SNL appearance anywhere else at anytime. It was a one-off. He knew how to collaborate. He didn't need to rip anyone off.
This may shed light on the whole thing: www.papermag.com/david-bowie-klaus-nomi-joey-arias-snl-1549090218.html
It wasn't stolen, but Bowie wasn't the creator of this costume either. This costume comes from Bauhaus school, and Klaus Nomi was heavily influenced by it. Nomi had been wearing his iconic suit way before he met Bowie, but we can't say it was stolen when Nomi wasn't the creator of that style either.
However, Nomi and Arias (guy in red dress) were the ones behind the creation and pretty much the whole artistic aesthetic of this presentation, but unfortunately they receive little to no credit for it, because they're obscure, less famous artists compared to Bowie.