🤔 Is The DualSense Edge Good For Fighting Games? Owner Review Plus Input Lag Test

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  • @LeafDew
    @LeafDew 7 місяців тому +6

    Excellent coverage of the d-pad. Thanks for confirming and addressing the down-back issues on the Dual Sense / Dual Sense Edge.

  • @Kekkai_
    @Kekkai_ 3 місяці тому +5

    I watched 10 videos before this and you are the only one who talked about anything I cared about. Also input test was a great touch. Thanks a bunch dude.

  • @joec361
    @joec361 Рік тому +31

    Thank you, your the only youtuber who covered the d-pad in the detail. 👌 Exactly what i was looking for 🤙

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  Рік тому +7

      No problem 👍

    • @ZyletaSF4
      @ZyletaSF4 3 місяці тому

      @@FrameCounting hey, I have a question. does dsx adds input lag on pc or not? because some games do not support the PS5 controller on Steam, for example, Tekken 8 supports Xbox/PS4/PS5 controller natively, but sf6/gbvr only supports the Xbox controller natively. Is using the DSX app a good choice compared to Steam Controller Input? what is your opinion ?

  • @jeffersonmarcocruzlinares4088
    @jeffersonmarcocruzlinares4088 Рік тому +30

    I've been using the normal dual sense for about 6 months and at first I also thought that the dpad was lousy compared to the one on Ps4 which really must be the best dpad ever. but after a few months I got used to the new shape and now I control it precisely just like with the one on ps4 and due to its shape it makes it easier for me to do various things in fighting games like Korean backdash and wavu wavu for example.

    • @syroco
      @syroco Рік тому +5

      DS4 dpad isnt bad, but the DS5 dpad is crap. it's just undeniable at this point

    • @athena9029
      @athena9029 11 місяців тому +3

      PS pads are awful. The actual best of any regular current gen console is the Switch Pro controller one, that's an actual DP. Second best would the Xbox one. There's a reason why professional gaming controller manufacturers do copy the Xbox design all the time but never the PS one.

    • @jeffersonmarcocruzlinares4088
      @jeffersonmarcocruzlinares4088 11 місяців тому

      are u serious? switch pro? really?@@athena9029

    • @GIGI-bb3yo
      @GIGI-bb3yo 10 місяців тому

      This is my problem rn fr 😂😂😂

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo 8 місяців тому +2

      @@athena9029 The overall design of the PS4 controller makes it infinitely better then other first party pads for me. I use the last 3rd of my thumb, so the overall shape of the Dpad doesn't matter quite as much as the shape of the controller itself. Due to the controller being on the thinner side I can really get my thumb in a comfortable position where I don't feel like I may drop the controller.
      I've run into some thinner 3rd party pads that also work well, but every first party has been moving towards thicker controllers because of hand feel when using sticks 2 handed.

  • @ethadiq4060
    @ethadiq4060 7 місяців тому +3

    Your video is very underrated. The polling rate is something Sony needs to use to justify the price of their pad makes it worth it alone and you're the only who's mentioned that advantage so far. Kudos 👏

  • @aweigh1010
    @aweigh1010 Рік тому +12

    Domed stick caps are for rolling your thumb over it in order to move the analog while aiming, and they are also more comfortable for holding the analog stick in one direction for a long time, like walking foward. A concave stick cap (the other kind that isn't domed) is meant to be held by the edge, like you demonstrate in the video, and some consider this sub-optimal for aiming. Technically the one in your video is more of a hybrid, or "flat", with a raised ridge. True hybrid stick caps combine a small convex dome in the center with raised outer edges.

    • @intellectic9155
      @intellectic9155 Рік тому +1

      Nah, I like both concave. Only on the right one, the aim stick, I like to have to tall one. That really helps w/ aim a lot and find it to actually be more comfortable to hold.

    • @ultra_cosmic
      @ultra_cosmic Рік тому

      Domed sticks are amazing, like the PS3 had

    • @mxBug
      @mxBug 11 місяців тому

      Default Dualsense sticks are in fact "true hybrid", slightly convex in the center, it's just hard to notice on camera.

  • @bakaneko2141
    @bakaneko2141 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for the info about the input delay~

  • @CalebAdams
    @CalebAdams Рік тому +8

    Victrix BFG Pro by far is the best pad out there for fighting games, loving mine!

  • @sylvercritter
    @sylvercritter 6 місяців тому

    mainly a platformer (not fighting) player here looking for a good d-pad (especially for fast-paced games with a lot of inputs, such as Pizza Tower), this review was still very helpful. i need a lot of precision in my d-pad, but my main issue with d-pads such as this one isn't actually the misinputs, but how the d-pad rubs on your thumb. i'd rather avoid getting a callus on my thumb if possible, and the rubbing also gave me a slight pain. i do like the layout of the dualsense controllers too, and it's such a huge shame that i have to choose between ergonomics and calluses.
    i'm going to check out more of your reviews to see if i can find what i'm looking for. it seems there's a lot of overlap between what fighting game players and precision/fast platformer game players want.
    also holy crap input delay on the edge is absurd.

  • @Hideoutt
    @Hideoutt 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video, thanks for making this!

  • @princegriever191
    @princegriever191 6 місяців тому +5

    6:12 DPAD review

  • @morpai.
    @morpai. Рік тому +2

    nice review! looks like you really like the dpad on this one. I was wondering, which controller do you think has the best dpad for fighting games, between this and the victrix BFG pro and the razer wolverine v2 pro?

  • @chrischand5082
    @chrischand5082 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant video.....could you do a test video with the brook wingman fgc
    ..to see if that reduces latency at all...that be interesting to know...thanks.

  • @herald8855
    @herald8855 Рік тому +2

    thanks for the video! i never thought to try my edge for fighters. but i have to ask, do you by chance have data for the razer wolverine v2 pro as well? i want to know how the edge compares to that

  • @ikee-rk5ep
    @ikee-rk5ep Рік тому +3

    Someone needs to start making 8-way d-pads finally. Or 6-way, with diagonals only for down directions. I can't stand the lottery for good rubber in the membrane anymore :(

    • @60fpspeasant84
      @60fpspeasant84 Рік тому

      Or buy the extremerate clicky mod. DS4 with this mod is my personal best fg controller.

    • @ikee-rk5ep
      @ikee-rk5ep Рік тому

      @@60fpspeasant84 good info brother, thnx

  • @luckysgi-5karrow378
    @luckysgi-5karrow378 2 місяці тому +1

    the dpad issue not being precise enough also goes back to Dualshock4. Hilarious some cheap Chinese Dualshock2 knock off I got from Amazon with admittedly neat wireless capability via a dongle that fits through USB on PC or Dualshock port on PS1/2 has a far better dpad. Being a Dualshock2 copy it still also has analog toggle button for the sticks. Left stick can turn into dpad-only mode with only the 8 cardinal directions. Amazing. Better than how PS4/5 and Street Fighter handles directional stick. For sure Sony knows the dpad sucks because they fixed the imprecision on PS5 console menu to only allow 1 input.

  • @muhammadrasool-w5i
    @muhammadrasool-w5i 24 дні тому

    Hi does the 1000hz polling rate 1ms delay work on ps5 also?
    Xbox limits you to 250hz polling rate so I just had to ask for playstation.
    Great vids also 👍👌

  • @bumpyface228
    @bumpyface228 Рік тому +2

    I'm here after buying the victrix bfg POS and yes, I'm pissed. $200 down the damn drain. My biggest complaint is the shitty input delay. Why does my DS5 perform faster wireless? Guess I'm burning another $200 plus on the Edge. Thank you!

  • @alexzandermanning6094
    @alexzandermanning6094 5 місяців тому +1

    Do you have the paddles remapped to down? Is it possible to have multiple buttons mapped to same input? For example, I like to have r1 mapped to the dpad forward button for easy electrics.

  • @RUY2323
    @RUY2323 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, very informative 👌🏻👌🏻

  • @shawns9316
    @shawns9316 4 місяці тому

    Hi there. Thank you for your detailed video! I have a question about input feel. Any concerns for button squish on the d-pad and face buttons?

  • @AnthonyRiddle
    @AnthonyRiddle Рік тому +3

    I have a wide variety of game controllers for retro consoles and modern. I’ve tried the diagonal test on all of their d pads and every one of them has false diagonal input to a certain extent. I find 8bitdo to have the best d pads.

  • @bubu8305
    @bubu8305 Рік тому +4

    There is huge downside to this controller: You cannot use back paddles/buttons on PC, you must own PS5 console and set it up
    Otherwise i might consider this controller as one of most suitable controller for SF6 due to the paddles/back buttons (you can remap drive impact/parry), the lowest latency ever seen (less than 1 ms which sounds incredibly low), Playstation shape/form factor (many Street Fighter players do actually play on Dualshock/Dualsense controller)
    I hate this, Sony want closed ecosystem like Apple do?!

    • @mxBug
      @mxBug 11 місяців тому

      Ya, this is why I opted to perform my own rear button mod on a standard DualSense with parts from extremeRate. They also have mods to replace all the membrane buttons with tactile ("clicky") ones, which effectively solves all the problems with the mushy floating d-pad. Even with both mods, it comes out a lot cheaper than an Edge, too...

  • @MARK-r6c3k
    @MARK-r6c3k 7 місяців тому +1

    Great Video. Thanks allot! 👊😎

  • @Alexbook99
    @Alexbook99 6 місяців тому

    I will never understand why people dont like when dpads behave in this way of triggering a diagonal when pressing a cardinal direction only, its the greatest advantage.
    It doesnt matter where you press the button you can press the left button as low as you want but still get left-up, it matters in which direction you press it. If you press the left button upwards, up-left will come out, just use the pad like a flat stick.

  • @Arman-td3sw
    @Arman-td3sw Рік тому +2

    I have blue regular dual sence controller. I think they fixed dpad. Because I don't have same issues as you had with your white regular dual sense. I want to get pro controller anyways but I am waiting for new colors

  • @Hazenra
    @Hazenra 4 місяці тому

    I have so many questions I play Mk1 so if I may ask is this controller good for like back forward special commands? Cause I slide my thumbs on the dpad like crazy but I get a lot of input errors cause I play on the dual sense original.

  • @hudson3539
    @hudson3539 8 місяців тому

    I'm not a Tekken player, but with 8 coming out, I'm going to be picking it up. So, Korean back-dash. It there an easier way to pull it off using a controller like this? Using the back paddles/lever/buttons for example?

  • @RandomAccessRaul
    @RandomAccessRaul Рік тому +2

    Is the polling rate automatic for all devices such as the PS5 or just on PC it is 1000 Hz?

  • @blagd
    @blagd Рік тому +2

    From day 1 my biggest issue with the dual sense was misinputs due to the dpad being one piece. Like you say, I can have my thumb on DOWN alone, wiggle it and get DF or DB inputs. So frustrating. I think I'm just gonna revert back to the PS4 pad for fighters

  • @shadilamesbutr8239
    @shadilamesbutr8239 Рік тому

    Will there be any drift like the regular model? My regular controller is already drifted and wanting to buy a new controller. I’m interested in this one but still skeptical about the drifting might happen again on this model.

    • @parky_riple
      @parky_riple Рік тому +1

      U can swap out the sticks if u did drift. The sticks are not that expensive. About $20 I think

  • @hudson3539
    @hudson3539 9 місяців тому

    Hi FG, firstly thanks for your videos. Really helpful. I use the dual sense for SF6, but im now currently on my 3rd controller due to dpad eventually wearing out. Ive been also looking at the victrix bfg, but after watching this video im starting to think the Edge mihht be the best bet for me. Obviously, spending £200 on a controller is a big risk, making 6oyr videos super important (no pressure 😅). I guessmy question is simply, do you think the Edge would be my best choice?

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  9 місяців тому

      I’d go with the Edge.

    • @hudson3539
      @hudson3539 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, I picked one up and I'm really happy with it. It's true what you said about the dpad. The cutout being smaller really creates a more rigid dpad. My favourite feature so far is the trigger travel adjustments. Plus, the build quality is really nice. You are literally the only person on the Internet who went into depth on the dpad from a fighting game perspective. Thank you for your service ❤

  • @jameswilliams3573
    @jameswilliams3573 Рік тому

    Im not sure if i just had a moment but since i turned ps5 communication to usb it has made a world of difference in response time for the regular dual sense

  • @sheikhu1039
    @sheikhu1039 Рік тому +1

    beautiful latency, do you have a latency test of the razer raion?

    • @chrischand5082
      @chrischand5082 Рік тому +1

      Good question...I would like to see latency on the raion too please 🙏

  • @theelusivememe1772
    @theelusivememe1772 Місяць тому

    What are those thumb covers you are wearing called?

  • @chrischand5082
    @chrischand5082 Рік тому +1

    The polling rate is 1000hz, but is that just on pc, is it still 1000 on ps5 or is it fixed on ps5, someone said only get 1000 if use it on a pc...is that right ?

  • @NoxLegend1
    @NoxLegend1 Рік тому

    How do you compare it to the hybrid xbox dpad? And also how do you test input lag? I am connecting my xbox controller to my ps5 through a brooks converter and I wanted to find out how much lag there is.

  • @abrahamalviarez5870
    @abrahamalviarez5870 11 днів тому

    but my stock dualsense v3 black midnight have 630 polling rate default 🤔

  • @Samurai78420
    @Samurai78420 4 місяці тому

    Just my incredibly humble opinion... But the Edge is worth it if you're not a pro or actively competitive player. There's a LOT you can do with it. Lots of options. It's fkng expensive for sure. But it's a great controller for the everyday player.

  • @Freshman_FGC
    @Freshman_FGC 5 місяців тому

    Is the 1000Hz polling rate on PC only? Or is it 1000Hz on PS5 by default.

  • @rizhall
    @rizhall Рік тому

    What made the PS4 controller's dpad great while the PS5 one is so bad? What's the main difference that made it feel so much worse?

  • @MoeMunnie023
    @MoeMunnie023 4 місяці тому

    “be vewy vewy quiet. i'm hunting wabbits”

  • @misterflouss5061
    @misterflouss5061 3 місяці тому

    People are doing competitive plays with og ps5 controller. Imo it's all about thumb precision yes the dpad helps but if your thumb do the right movement accident should not happen. Accidental diagonal can happen on the xbox series x 8 way dpad too

    • @work1907
      @work1907 Місяць тому

      @@misterflouss5061 many sf6 pros who used dualsense have now changed to dualsense edge so maybe it’s really that better? I dunno

  • @yaopatrick5107
    @yaopatrick5107 Рік тому

    Is this controller good for guilty gear strive? Or any recommened fight pad for GGST?

  • @yungchamp21
    @yungchamp21 Рік тому

    How would you rate this D-pad, vs a modified split d-pad on the original dual sense? Is it worth it to get the edge?

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  Рік тому +1

      The Edge is better

    • @leeraym
      @leeraym 11 місяців тому

      @@FrameCounting it seems like the DualSense D Pad is more of a Gel Feeling, which is more comfortable than a Plastic D Pad.

  • @a44iction42
    @a44iction42 Рік тому

    hey mann, awesome video, I'm about to buy a new controller for sf6, would you recommend this one or razer wolverine v2?

  • @Axryuu
    @Axryuu Рік тому

    you hould do a bit of a revision for the Hori Fighting commander octa, maybe de PS version, since the issue why you didn´t like that controller is solved with a firmware update on the xbox version, and by default on the PS version, it will not become one of your favorites jajaja, but is nowhere near a bad pad for fighting games in my opinion, and in general i respect your opinion for it

  • @LexusISFast
    @LexusISFast Рік тому +2

    After trying out 2 different ones in a 3 month period. No this version of the controller is not worth it! Gets dirty easily and the right back bumper broke on both controllers with very casual use. If they can fix both issues plus make it more affordable, then it could be a decent buy.

  • @JRisabeast09
    @JRisabeast09 9 місяців тому

    So just to clarify, the input delay is the same for ps5 as it is on pc?

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  9 місяців тому +1

      This is the controller delay. System delay is different. Some people have more powerful machines than others. Also, TVs and monitors affect delay as well.

    • @JRisabeast09
      @JRisabeast09 9 місяців тому

      @@FrameCountingso does the ps5 itself cause delay?

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  9 місяців тому

      Input lag on the PS5 is pretty bad… I did a few videos on this.

  • @sketchsi
    @sketchsi 10 місяців тому

    Do you get stick drift or damage from over use

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  10 місяців тому

      These will eventually wear out but you can replace the sticks.

  • @iulianmoga9410
    @iulianmoga9410 Рік тому

    Can You remap back buttons for diagonal input ? (left b.button for down diagonal input )

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  Рік тому +1

      Negative

    • @iulianmoga9410
      @iulianmoga9410 Рік тому

      @@FrameCounting thnak you ! 👍

    • @SunnyBanerjeePlus
      @SunnyBanerjeePlus Рік тому

      Had the same question 😂 wanted to check if my DP could be easier

    • @iulianmoga9410
      @iulianmoga9410 Рік тому +2

      @@SunnyBanerjeePlus you can remap down and left /right for back buttons and combine them like how you do it on d pad . Your fingers are on the d pad for other inputs ...while you combine 2 back buttons for diagonal input . (I buy it by the way dual edge controller ) . You can play modern control and use in other way those 2 back buttons .

  • @eatdahl
    @eatdahl 5 місяців тому

    The dualsense edge has same issues as normal dualsense. I got mine on wednesday and im already returning it

  • @caliburga9071
    @caliburga9071 6 днів тому

    I feel like my elite series 2 have too much input lag on my pc, anyone else?

  • @sheikhu1039
    @sheikhu1039 Рік тому +1

    Please please pleaseee, review the Razer wolverine V2 pro, they say the dpad is GODLIKE, it has the first ever 8 microswitches in the dpad, but I don't see any fighting game vids

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  Рік тому +1

      Stay tuned… ;)

    • @sheikhu1039
      @sheikhu1039 Рік тому

      @@FrameCounting Wooooohoo!!! Less go!.

    • @Rafi-apz
      @Rafi-apz Рік тому +2

      @@FrameCounting I just got my Wolverine V2 Pro and I'm returning it. Quarter circle motions are much easier on it because of the diagonal buttons, but DP motion inputs are giving me a lot of accidental jumps because up-forward is really sensitive. Guess I can't have it both ways :)

    • @jaygreene9626
      @jaygreene9626 Рік тому +1

      @@Rafi-apzit was actually the opposite for me. It was easy to do dp motions but quarter circle was a pain in the ass for me and I returned the controller

  • @k-yo
    @k-yo 8 місяців тому

    I wonder how it compares to the DS4. I've used that a lot for tekken and simply loved it.

    • @reng.2588
      @reng.2588 8 місяців тому +1

      I bought a second hand ds5 and so far it felt the same except it's a bit stiffer and heavier
      My b2 loops,DSS,and KBD felt the same over time.
      I guess people complain easily and not consider to adapt.
      Overall the DS5 is ok and I'll be using it for Tekken 8

  • @Frequent-x
    @Frequent-x 2 місяці тому

    Wow I had no idea input lag matter with wired and without wired

  • @Nonlifting_breezy
    @Nonlifting_breezy 11 місяців тому

    Dpad sucks for mk1. I get jumps when I don’t want them and don’t get forward jumps when I do want them. I use the stick for street fighter lol the actual analog stick

    • @B.CREAT1
      @B.CREAT1 7 місяців тому

      Same, sad because the controller has a good feel. But the Dpad is maybe getting used to, or should i stick to my 8bitdo pro 2 or raion razer fightpad

  • @evaldasmerkelis4716
    @evaldasmerkelis4716 5 місяців тому

    Or this Controller is good for UFC 5?

  • @HouseJunk1e
    @HouseJunk1e 7 місяців тому

    Sounds great for tekken players.

  • @TaoProduction36
    @TaoProduction36 8 місяців тому

    Is it good for For Honer?

  • @pinkpyjamas4090
    @pinkpyjamas4090 11 місяців тому

    Thank you.

  • @RomanoIong
    @RomanoIong Рік тому

    This or DS4 for playing Street Fighter 6?

  • @etiennehenriquez2110
    @etiennehenriquez2110 4 місяці тому

    Weet iemand misschien beste settings voor Ufc 5

  • @emansfvera
    @emansfvera 3 місяці тому

    No way bro the ps5 controller is great for fighting games. Sony has always had tue superior pads on their stick controllers.

  • @dahoodlum1253
    @dahoodlum1253 Рік тому

    It'd gonna be a no for me dog great that it's an improvement on a shxtty design but not enough of an improvement unfortunately. The ps5 controller design fukking sux.

  • @SKY11211213
    @SKY11211213 Рік тому +2

    if your controller is FCC 1 and not FCC 1A (1st revision) then the dualsense controller is rubbish. HAH GO YOU. Sell your controller and get the revision.

    • @kingkhalid1111
      @kingkhalid1111 Рік тому

      how do i know which versions i have ?

    • @thomasfam95
      @thomasfam95 Рік тому +1

      ​@@kingkhalid1111Look on the back shell of your Dualsense and you'll find the FCC ID (It'll be a butch of letters and numbers). If the FCC ID doesn't end with A then that means its the older/outdated version of the Dualsense. All the colored ones (Purple, Red, Blue, Pink, Black, Camo etc.), The ones that come with the PS5 from 2022 to now (Either purchased just standalone or with bundle) and the Dualsense Edge are the Newer/Updated versions. Hope this helped 😊

  • @brad9877
    @brad9877 11 місяців тому

    Do finger condoms help?

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  11 місяців тому

      Here ya go:
      ua-cam.com/video/1qo3ZDOs7ac/v-deo.html

  • @josemujica9648
    @josemujica9648 Рік тому

    No Wonder is called “EDGE” lol

  • @jorge86rodriguez
    @jorge86rodriguez Рік тому +2

    -Cool a ps5 gamepad with good dpad
    -Me looking at the price of the dualsense edge o.O
    It is literally waaaaayyyyyy cheaper to purchase the new ps5 fgc brook wingman (when stock is finally available) and use ps4 controllers or any other controller.
    Sony really fucked up ps5 fighting game players and tournaments that use ps5

    • @hahahahahohohoho5085
      @hahahahahohohoho5085 Рік тому

      Just get a recent batch dualsense if the d-pad is the only thing holding you back.

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 Рік тому

      @@hahahahahohohoho5085what's changed with the recent batch?

    • @azure8285
      @azure8285 Рік тому +1

      That 1ms responde time tho...

    • @jorge86rodriguez
      @jorge86rodriguez Рік тому

      @@hahahahahohohoho5085 have they fixed the dpad? and even if that is the case I still think I will go for the fgc brook, I have 3 dualshock 4 in stock plus I can use any controller

    • @hahahahahohohoho5085
      @hahahahahohohoho5085 Рік тому

      @@jorge86rodriguez people say they did, but I don't know firsthand

  • @just_dyl1
    @just_dyl1 2 місяці тому

    CLEAN YOUR NAILS!

  • @louis1443
    @louis1443 8 місяців тому

    No it’s terrible

  • @psp785
    @psp785 Місяць тому

    This controller sucks balls the og one is better

  • @HCIbn
    @HCIbn Рік тому +1

    13 minutes of talking just to get to the dpad part of the video. 2:44

    • @FrameCounting
      @FrameCounting  Рік тому +4

      This is a controller review not a dpad review... 🤦