Both versions look like they have dynamic lighting; the main difference is texturing and transparencies. The Saturn version seems to have higher contrast. Texture quality is pretty much the same. Additionally, the Saturn version has VDP1 transparency, meaning it goes opaque over VDP2 layers (backgrounds) but is transparent over polygons, whereas the PlayStation doesn't have such issues.
PS1 version doesn't look great. Its clear as the day using phony,Screen filtered Half Transparency for lighting effects. I also notice unfiltered Textures and Zero Bip Mapping on that port. Saturn all the way.
The only things that really stand out for me are: the animated scene at the beginning of the saturn version and the dynamic lighting in the PS1 version. The framerate seems to be similar enough, they both slow down at certain points. Outside of what little story there is to them they're exactly the same as Pandemonium.
PlayStation version has better looking transparency effects which are almost entirely absent on Saturn, but the Saturn version appears to have more colors on screen. This is a tie, for me.
PS1 does looks clear while it’s still playable from playing the game while yet... I love the colors and pixelated look better on Saturn. It’s still a draw from both versions.
That's interesting. I bought the game for the Saturn, back then, as I remember reading it was the better version, out of the two, but... I may want to try the PS one too, now. I mean, visually speaking, the differences aren't as near as dramatic as we've seen in other circumstances, yet I agree with people saying PS MH looks better. Saturn port surely seems to be more fleshed out, in terms of both story-related content and sound work.
PS1 has great transparencies, but I think I prefer the saturated colors of the Saturn, overall it looks like a pretty competent port between the systems.
Both versions are nearly identical, aside from a few instances of transparencies in the PSX version that are lacking in the Saturn version. There are some slight differences in lighting and color between the two, such as the rotating tower in stage two, but that seems to be an artistic choice. Saturn version has a slightly more color saturation and the main character model looks nicer (she's strangely shaded on the Playstation version. Playstation also has that weird polygon warping effect where it can't draw straight lines. Overall, I'd say the game is equally good on both systems, but I'd give a very slight nod to Saturn for its richer color tones and character model, as well as the opening animated movie clip. But we're talking a 51-49 score. I think most gamers just assumed that any videogame to appear on both systems would be better on PSX, and the Saturn version would be an ugly, grungy throwaway. Today, we can see many examples where that isn't the case, but Sega just couldn't catch a break in those days. Oh, well, in any case, this game was immediately dismissed the second Super Mario 64 dropped.
Here, I expected a marginal (but clear) win from the Sony console with this one... but in the end, it was a virtual tie. The Saturn version was created later, but it managed to hold up well (unlike previous late ps1 to ss ports). Nice touch with using the Japanese release, btw 👍
The PS1 looks like it has a higher resolution and of course it does transparencies better/easier. I'll give the Saturn the advantage in 2D fighting games but the Playstation 1 is the 3D champ between the two.
the resolution is identical for both versions and generally better on Saturn. The big difference here is on the graphic effects like transparency which even if it also exists on the Saturn version is less beautiful and less fine than on PS1
Another tough one. The PS1 is a little sharper but the colors and lighting effects on the Saturn more than make up for it. Of course the transparency of the waterfall on Saturn could be problematic in gameplay. I also prefer the character sprites on the saturn. I like my women with a little bump in the trunk and PS1, while looking a tad sharper, looks like twigs.
Que interessante, não conhecia essa versão japonesa tão diferente da original. Saturn com mais animações/videos, por que será? E teve algum Magical Hoopers 2?
+Lagarto Frenético Magical Hoppers 2 não teve, mas teve Pandemonium 2, e quanto a versão Saturn ter mais videos, é pq na época desse jogo lá no Japão, o Saturn vendia mais que o Ps1 no Japão, por isso esse ''cuidado'' a mais :P
Nossa essa ta dificil... as duas versões não tem mudanças tão gritantes, acho que a mais notavel é que as texturas do Saturn são mais claras e as do PS1 mais escuras ( 5:15 ) da pra ver bem isso, além disso parece que o PS1 se dá melhor com transparencia do quê o Saturn, fora isso não vi diferenças tão gritantes.
Sega Saturn was such a great 32 bit console, but it struggles with using lighting effects in many of its games. I can see the PSX version, this character is surrounded by a beautiful glowing effect but on Saturn version is too flat that effect, like 2D drawing.
There is a huge difference for the saturn version with the lightning effects. The PS1 version is very "flat", and greyish, like his 15bit colors rendering.
it's an average game on both ... Of course the color contrast of the saturn's version is great but the visual effects are far away better on PS1 .... for fans maybe both versions are good .
Eu acho que ja joguei esse game, mas com o outro nome (Pandemonium). E pelo que vi parece bem melhor do que na versão ocidental (Historias diferentes?) Em relaçao ao papo que voce teve com o Okami ontem, ja vi melhor as diferenças das versões. A versão do Segasatan tá sensacional.
+Rodrigo Ferreira essa é a versão japonesa do jogo Pandemonium! que tem outros personagens e outra história, mas as fases são as mesmas. vale notar que a versão original é a ocidental, já que o jogo foi feito por um estúdio ocidental.
é aquela no gráfico o ps1 leva, e é legal ver como o saturn e ps1 lidam com transparência. Mas no áudio achei o Saturn melhor... Mas assim em termos de jogabilidade achei parecido, teve algum slowdown?
+Flavio Andrade senti um pouco de dificuldade na questão dopulo duplo na versão Sega Saturn, tinha que apertar 3 ou 4 vezes seguidas para o segundo pulo sair, já na versão Ps1 o pulo duplo saia com mais facilidade apertando apenas 2 vezes o botão de pulo. Quanto a problema de slowdown, não reparei, pois tava mais preocupada na dificuldade do pulo duplo na versão saturn, pode-se dizer que a versão saturn é mais exigente no ''time'' do segundo pulo :P e por isso requer uma precisão maior....
+Flavio Andrade exato, mas foi até bom morrer ali, pois serviu para sincronizar um pouco as duas versões sem precisar pausar o video na edição, já que a versão do Saturn tinha ficado um pouco adiantada xD
Esse jogo assim como o próprio Pandemonium eu prefiro no PSone, apesar de achar o Magical Hoppers desnecessário, tiraram todo o ar psicodélico do jogo. Agora, assim como o jogo original, eu gosto mais da paleta no Saturn, mas... jogabilidade e áudio eu gosto mais do PSone (apesar de no Saturn o som não ser tão abafado como no console da Sony, mas no PSone isso serve mais como um charme hahah), não tem como. Esse é um dos jogos que está na minha lista dos 10 melhores pro videogame. Nessa comparação sem dúvidas o PSone tem vantagem clara.
a transparencia do saturn eh algo tao confuso que a aura rosa soh eh transparente quando esta em frente outros objetos poligonais. quando nao tem nada atras ela eh solida.
5:17 a famosa falta do efeito de transparência no saturn precisou colocar uma plaquinha com seta indicando pro jogador saber que era pra atravessar a cachoeira kkk no mais não acho que a versão da sega perdeu feio não,ficou até legalzinho os gráficos,surra mesmo foi em tomb raider 1(aguardando o comparativo no canal),só encaro a versão do saturn pelo fator nostalgia pq foi a que joguei ela na adolescência ....
I'd say the Saturn wins this one. Sure the Saturn can't do transparencies without clever code. But where the PlayStation wins the battle, it loses the war. You see, on the Saturn version that tail is an actual part of her body. But on the PlayStation version, it's just a butt plug. Checkmate, Sony fans.
Esse jogo não tem qualquer personalidade. É o jogo mais genérico que já vi. Essa versão japonesa parece um pouco mais interessante, mas o jogo em si continua não combinando com nada. É um jogo 3D de PS1 portado pra Saturn, e ficou bem comparável, mas faltam os efeitos de transparência de sempre.
The Playstation version is superior, but the Saturn version could have been just as good. Looks like poor hardware utilization, which was common since the Saturn was a bitch to program for.
The Saturn loses as always...lower color depth , overblown brightness, no transparencies or blending, worse textures.....Saturn simply is not up to the task for 3D games, better stay playing those kidddie 2D games for children
Arthur Collector Saturn é superior...e isso não é gosto...é fato...o hardware do Saturn era chato de lidar...no ps1 era muito fácil programar os jogos...e ps1 vendia 10 vezes mais que o Saturn...um console que vendia 10 vezes menos e de difícil programação, os desenvolvedores não perdiam tempo em usar o Saturn da maneira correta...quando um empresa pegava pra perder tempo no Saturn, dava até dó do ps1...e estou falando em 3D mesmo...
A versão do Sega Saturn esta bem feita, desde que você não jogue a do Ps1, alias o efeito horrível de tranparencia no Saturn em ? estragou completamente a aura do personagem, que no Ps1 percebe-se um cosmo suave no Saturn parece uma bola rosa. Alias, acho que surra pior que essa só Tomb Raider.
![Magical Hoppers (マジカルホッパーズ). [PlayStation]. 1CC. Playthrough. No Death. 60Fps.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m5mFDXXUhIs/mqdefault.jpg)
the saturn version looks incredible and that intro was awesome. easy win for sega.
Both versions look like they have dynamic lighting; the main difference is texturing and transparencies. The Saturn version seems to have higher contrast. Texture quality is pretty much the same. Additionally, the Saturn version has VDP1 transparency, meaning it goes opaque over VDP2 layers (backgrounds) but is transparent over polygons, whereas the PlayStation doesn't have such issues.
PS1 version doesn't look great. Its clear as the day using phony,Screen filtered Half Transparency for lighting effects. I also notice unfiltered Textures and Zero Bip Mapping on that port.
Saturn all the way.
The only things that really stand out for me are: the animated scene at the beginning of the saturn version and the dynamic lighting in the PS1 version. The framerate seems to be similar enough, they both slow down at certain points.
Outside of what little story there is to them they're exactly the same as Pandemonium.
I love the lighting and color saturation of the Saturn version.
I also prefer the original PANDEMONIUM! characters (Nikki and Fargus).
This one looks brighter and cuter to me. it also plays faster and cleaner than Pandemonium.
What do you think?
Vdp2 could’ve helped greatly with waterfall transparencies as proven by XL2
No sabía que Pandemonium salió en Japón con este nombre y personajes😮
PlayStation version has better looking transparency effects which are almost entirely absent on Saturn, but the Saturn version appears to have more colors on screen. This is a tie, for me.
Yeah, the devs of the Saturn port once again couldn't be arsed to use the transparency features...
@@elgoog-the-third There are some transparency effects. The person clearly said that they're ALMOST absent.
PS1 does looks clear while it’s still playable from playing the game while yet... I love the colors and pixelated look better on Saturn. It’s still a draw from both versions.
That's interesting. I bought the game for the Saturn, back then, as I remember reading it was the better version, out of the two, but... I may want to try the PS one too, now. I mean, visually speaking, the differences aren't as near as dramatic as we've seen in other circumstances, yet I agree with people saying PS MH looks better.
Saturn port surely seems to be more fleshed out, in terms of both story-related content and sound work.
The PS1 version looks WORSE. You clearly aren't paying attention.
Wow, Japan really did a number on Pandemonium!
Saturn instantly. It has a real intro not moving stills.
Magnum force Mopar Except the moving stills(?) are more interesting to look at since they don't take forever.
PS1 has great transparencies, but I think I prefer the saturated colors of the Saturn, overall it looks like a pretty competent port between the systems.
It's not actual Transparency.
@@segaunited3855it's actual transparency stfu
Both versions are nearly identical, aside from a few instances of transparencies in the PSX version that are lacking in the Saturn version. There are some slight differences in lighting and color between the two, such as the rotating tower in stage two, but that seems to be an artistic choice. Saturn version has a slightly more color saturation and the main character model looks nicer (she's strangely shaded on the Playstation version. Playstation also has that weird polygon warping effect where it can't draw straight lines.
Overall, I'd say the game is equally good on both systems, but I'd give a very slight nod to Saturn for its richer color tones and character model, as well as the opening animated movie clip. But we're talking a 51-49 score.
I think most gamers just assumed that any videogame to appear on both systems would be better on PSX, and the Saturn version would be an ugly, grungy throwaway. Today, we can see many examples where that isn't the case, but Sega just couldn't catch a break in those days. Oh, well, in any case, this game was immediately dismissed the second Super Mario 64 dropped.
Actually there just few bad PS1 ports on Saturn, most of them are similar or just with few differences.
Very good analysis. 👍
Here, I expected a marginal (but clear) win from the Sony console with this one... but in the end, it was a virtual tie.
The Saturn version was created later, but it managed to hold up well (unlike previous late ps1 to ss ports). Nice touch with using the Japanese release, btw 👍
Magical Hoppers seems to have improvements over Pandemonium on Saturn. Framerate seems better i guess
The PS1 looks like it has a higher resolution and of course it does transparencies better/easier. I'll give the Saturn the advantage in 2D fighting games but the Playstation 1 is the 3D champ between the two.
Nope, PS1 could do high res mode in 3D which Saturn could.
See VF2 and DOA. Saturn in the 3D champ.
the resolution is identical for both versions and generally better on Saturn. The big difference here is on the graphic effects like transparency which even if it also exists on the Saturn version is less beautiful and less fine than on PS1
This comment is made in line with the usual myth. Just graphical artifact differences
I like the dense and clean sound from Saturn, so I prefer to play on this console. Although without transparent textures :)
This time Playstation wins! but not by much, since the Saturn version is very honorable too.
i seriously like both. but if i had to make a choice i would choose saturn.
Ah yes: Pandemonium!
Looks like Crash combined with Donkey Kong
Another tough one. The PS1 is a little sharper but the colors and lighting effects on the Saturn more than make up for it. Of course the transparency of the waterfall on Saturn could be problematic in gameplay. I also prefer the character sprites on the saturn. I like my women with a little bump in the trunk and PS1, while looking a tad sharper, looks like twigs.
Lmao. What lighting? What colors? The Saturn is a piece of trash
@@jhkuno88 talk about bumping an old comment. Geez
@@jhkuno88Saturn version is way 😊better… bump away sucker
Joguei muito a versão saturn.
Vou conferir a de psx,nem sabia que tinha essa versão pro psx.
So they Localized a Western Game like that.
PS1
Saturn.
Ps1@@segaunited3855
Que interessante, não conhecia essa versão japonesa tão diferente da original. Saturn com mais animações/videos, por que será? E teve algum Magical Hoopers 2?
+Lagarto Frenético Magical Hoppers 2 não teve, mas teve Pandemonium 2, e quanto a versão Saturn ter mais videos, é pq na época desse jogo lá no Japão, o Saturn vendia mais que o Ps1 no Japão, por isso esse ''cuidado'' a mais :P
Charming 90's anime
Nossa essa ta dificil... as duas versões não tem mudanças tão gritantes, acho que a mais notavel é que as texturas do Saturn são mais claras e as do PS1 mais escuras ( 5:15 ) da pra ver bem isso, além disso parece que o PS1 se dá melhor com transparencia do quê o Saturn, fora isso não vi diferenças tão gritantes.
+Moon Sarito algumas texturas no saturn são mais claras, mas outras texturas são bem mais escuras ( 8:24)
isso ai kara vc analisa bem
that playstation one is good graphics and music sony wins
Sega Saturn was such a great 32 bit console, but it struggles with using lighting effects in many of its games. I can see the PSX version, this character is surrounded by a beautiful glowing effect but on Saturn version is too flat that effect, like 2D drawing.
Check out Burning Rangers or Panzer Dragoon Saga for great Saturn lighting effects
There is a huge difference for the saturn version with the lightning effects. The PS1 version is very "flat", and greyish, like his 15bit colors rendering.
it's an average game on both ... Of course the color contrast of the saturn's version is great but the visual effects are far away better on PS1 .... for fans maybe both versions are good .
Eu acho que ja joguei esse game, mas com o outro nome (Pandemonium). E pelo que vi parece bem melhor do que na versão ocidental (Historias diferentes?)
Em relaçao ao papo que voce teve com o Okami ontem, ja vi melhor as diferenças das versões. A versão do Segasatan tá sensacional.
+Rodrigo Ferreira essa é a versão japonesa do jogo Pandemonium! que tem outros personagens e outra história, mas as fases são as mesmas.
vale notar que a versão original é a ocidental, já que o jogo foi feito por um estúdio ocidental.
Ué, Pandemonium? Eu conhecia só de revista, mas a versao americana nao tinha esse visual de anime.
Ps1 vence aqui nas cores menos saturadas e efeitos de transparência, mas ambos parecem ok pra jogar.
Saturn ports almost always has darker textures...
I hate to say it, but PS1 won in the visual, and loading department. The Saturn on the other sound quality blew away the PS1 with clarity.
Nope. The Saturn version looks FAR sharper and cleaner.
PS1, the lighting and effects are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. Other then that...they are pretty even. PS1 wins.
I like the saturn color contrast more and the ps1 is bland. But with pgxp ps1 is better!
Pandemonium!
é aquela no gráfico o ps1 leva, e é legal ver como o saturn e ps1 lidam com transparência. Mas no áudio achei o Saturn melhor... Mas assim em termos de jogabilidade achei parecido, teve algum slowdown?
+Flavio Andrade senti um pouco de dificuldade na questão dopulo duplo na versão Sega Saturn, tinha que apertar 3 ou 4 vezes seguidas para o segundo pulo sair, já na versão Ps1 o pulo duplo saia com mais facilidade apertando apenas 2 vezes o botão de pulo.
Quanto a problema de slowdown, não reparei, pois tava mais preocupada na dificuldade do pulo duplo na versão saturn, pode-se dizer que a versão saturn é mais exigente no ''time'' do segundo pulo :P e por isso requer uma precisão maior....
+Canal Vc Decide agora que vc falou observei e realmente o pulo duplo sai com mais dificuldade, até que vc morre uma vez na versão do saturn
+Flavio Andrade exato, mas foi até bom morrer ali, pois serviu para sincronizar um pouco as duas versões sem precisar pausar o video na edição, já que a versão do Saturn tinha ficado um pouco adiantada xD
One a great reason to play again with my saturn
I like Saturn version more...
Both versions... Of Pandemonium are very good, but PS1 wins here.
Esse jogo assim como o próprio Pandemonium eu prefiro no PSone, apesar de achar o Magical Hoppers desnecessário, tiraram todo o ar psicodélico do jogo. Agora, assim como o jogo original, eu gosto mais da paleta no Saturn, mas... jogabilidade e áudio eu gosto mais do PSone (apesar de no Saturn o som não ser tão abafado como no console da Sony, mas no PSone isso serve mais como um charme hahah), não tem como. Esse é um dos jogos que está na minha lista dos 10 melhores pro videogame. Nessa comparação sem dúvidas o PSone tem vantagem clara.
a transparencia do saturn eh algo tao confuso que a aura rosa soh eh transparente quando esta em frente outros objetos poligonais. quando nao tem nada atras ela eh solida.
5:17 a famosa falta do efeito de transparência no saturn precisou colocar uma plaquinha com seta indicando pro jogador saber que era pra atravessar a cachoeira kkk
no mais não acho que a versão da sega perdeu feio não,ficou até legalzinho os gráficos,surra mesmo foi em tomb raider 1(aguardando o comparativo no canal),só encaro a versão do saturn pelo fator nostalgia pq foi a que joguei ela na adolescência ....
aliás não tem o Pandemonium(ocidental) pro saturn não?
Playstation looks a little better i think.
Estão muito parecidos, a diferença é a paleta de cores com tons mais vivos no Saturn, mas a de PS vence por conta dos efeitos de transparência.
Saturn has more VRAM hence it can display a higher colour depth than the PS1.
The Playstation clearly scores with its transparency effects here.
Saturn wins
I'd say the Saturn wins this one. Sure the Saturn can't do transparencies without clever code. But where the PlayStation wins the battle, it loses the war. You see, on the Saturn version that tail is an actual part of her body. But on the PlayStation version, it's just a butt plug. Checkmate, Sony fans.
I don't get the joke.
Psx = HDR
benzaieeee llliiiiiveeee
Sega Saturn fantastic intro
Esse jogo não tem qualquer personalidade. É o jogo mais genérico que já vi.
Essa versão japonesa parece um pouco mais interessante, mas o jogo em si continua não combinando com nada.
É um jogo 3D de PS1 portado pra Saturn, e ficou bem comparável, mas faltam os efeitos de transparência de sempre.
A única coisa que ficou legal on Saturn foi a intro animada,enquanto no PS1 é um slide show :P
De resto o PS1 ganha.
PlayStation
Parece pqndemijuum
The Playstation version is superior, but the Saturn version could have been just as good. Looks like poor hardware utilization, which was common since the Saturn was a bitch to program for.
The Saturn loses as always...lower color depth , overblown brightness, no transparencies or blending, worse textures.....Saturn simply is not up to the task for 3D games, better stay playing those kidddie 2D games for children
saturn e 3d nada a ver
Arthur Collector Saturn é superior...e isso não é gosto...é fato...o hardware do Saturn era chato de lidar...no ps1 era muito fácil programar os jogos...e ps1 vendia 10 vezes mais que o Saturn...um console que vendia 10 vezes menos e de difícil programação, os desenvolvedores não perdiam tempo em usar o Saturn da maneira correta...quando um empresa pegava pra perder tempo no Saturn, dava até dó do ps1...e estou falando em 3D mesmo...
Ugh Pandemonium...this game sucks regardless, so both systems lose
A versão do Sega Saturn esta bem feita, desde que você não jogue a do Ps1, alias o efeito horrível de tranparencia no Saturn em ? estragou completamente a aura do personagem, que no Ps1 percebe-se um cosmo suave no Saturn parece uma bola rosa. Alias, acho que surra pior que essa só Tomb Raider.
usual outcome saturn =trash .playstation = acceptable
Shame it was loaded with shitty cute manga 2d crap...
you are the trash .... a blind trash
sega satrun plays more smoother ps1 is slow the ps1 was under power compared to satun and n64 sony repeat tat mistake with ps2
but having the success with both ....