Gotta love a man who appreciates a second pair of hands even if they aren't up doing the same work as you. Doing this stuff alone is tedious as fuck when you've got to hop up and down for materials and tools.
This is very useful. I was on the point of just replacing old wooden fascia but builder friend suggested underlying roof felt along edge is likely rotting away too. This gives me a very clear expectation of what i might find and need to deal with whilst scaffolding is in place and before replacing old fascia boards. I have the same concrete tiles as per this video so good to see that aswell. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for that!! :) Very helpful. I have a similar garage roof problem. During my DIY investigations I discovered what they call 'Eaves Protectors'. I like the idea and logic of those so I'll be fitting those to mine, under the roof felt... when I get around to it!!... First I have veluxes to replace on the house! Never ends!!! :)
Please great work. Was there a additional need to fit eaves support trays, to stop the felt sagging, especially as the felt along the gutter run was most deteriorated? Or please your thoughts on why the support trays were not fitted? My roofer did not fit them, at first on a recent re-roofing job. Many thanks for your video and your response.
Hey thanks for watching. Yes for a proper finish eave trays should be fitted. I didn’t have any at the time when I carried out this job as it was an emergency repair days before Christmas. Hope that helps.
Amazing video and explanations. The whole felt on my roof is corroding and requires changing. Its a terraced house, any ideas how much such a job would cost?
That’s a shame! I’d probably budget Scaffholding around £600 materials (felt batten) £500 labour around £1500. Hood that helps. Thanks for watching good luck!
Good job, see a lot of this with pending behind the fascia board set too high. Would replace any broken tile to give the extra coverage at such a low pitch and exposure.
Waters gonna trap behind batten put back on top of fascia board then seep down behind gutter,, should have gone underneath new felt with felt support trays going into gutter, at least two tiles should have been replaced in that section alone , the fascia capping board didn't need cutting down at all and as for the scaffolding 🥴
Hi Rok A lot. Thank you for taking the time to watch, comment and explaining how you would have done the repair. Obvoiusly ever situation is different. On this particular instance I could have done a few things differnt like add felt support trays, changed tiles and had full scaffolding. But it was only a repair to get them by. (1 day before christmas) I believe the repair I carried out will last atleast 5 years which is probably longer than the rest of the roof will hold out. I informed the customer roof will need to be replaced in the near future.
There should be a tilting fillet behind the fascia board or an eaves protector or an eaves support tray. There shouldn't be a batten fixed to the top of the fascia. A 2" upstand on the fascia is correct for tile. That scaffolding tower looked very sketchy. That said it was a repair and the budget was probably minimal.
This is so helpful thank you! I have the same problem as in lower felt needs replacing. Would I be better to get the whole roof done though, because presumably the felt higher up is on the way out too? Bit worried I'll have to pay out again in a few years when I won't be able to afford it?
Hi Lesley. Thanks for watching. In my option. Higher up will last a lot longer. If you can get a roofer round for a day or so and replace lower felt using a tower scaffhold or ladders. Your on to a winner. But if you have to fork out for full Scaffholding it will properly be worth replacing the whole lot. Hope that helps
Great video for roof repairs. Why was the insulation aspect totally ignored just because its not a roofing job? The loft insulation is clearly visible and so is the exposed face of the concrete blockwork which may form part of the room wall inside the building; for example the internal wall above a window. Why was that important part of the wall totally ignored? The absence of loft insulation in this area often results in damp just below the ceiling, often accompanied by mould. This problem can be made worse when soffitt vents are fitted and the air behind the fascia is even colder All for the sake of a small amount of insulation. So many videos about insulating lofts; so many about ventilating lofts; many about roofs and their repairs; non that join up the dots and create a total view on all aspects of a very important part of a building structure. Excellent video all the same!
Hi thanks for your comment. You are correct! Insulation is poor in this whole roof. I actually recently when back to this property and done more work on the roof. I did advise the landlord of the property insulation in the loft is poor. But you know what landlords are like 😝 thanks for watching and your feed back
This is exactly what the roofer did for me recently but I still have a leak down the gable end side when it snowed. There’s still water mark on the top side of the room.
Nope. . Pitch is to low and house is top of a hill by the sea. They are doomed! Just a quick fix. It’s held out for 3 years and counting 🤞I did advise customer new roofs in a bad way
Thanks Luke. When doing a full roof Batons would all be nailed as it’s quicker. So sometimes it’s a bit tricky getting the old batons of without breaking them. I normally use a flat bar. When I put batons back on I screw them as I don’t carry nails. Hope that helps. George
please can you explain what this means, I am new to this and about to embark on installing eaves trays, and replacing some felt if needed in that same area. Where you say leave a 300mm layer, how does that look, like 300mm overlapped on top or?
Hi damp proof course (DPC) was used a lot back in the day. It’s just a thick plastic sheet. But nowadays if your using eaves trays don’t worry about using a DPC. BUT obviously u still need roofing membrane over the top of the eave trays. Good luck
Broken tiles are still there a year on. The job was an emergency job a few days before Christmas. I definitely didn’t have time to go find replacements. Thanks for watching
Hi my roofer used TRAYS but he also used thin boards to stop the felt sagging. Now the tiny drips of condensation have turned to running water all along the wall and condensation. Is this caused by the boards? I’ve been told be another roofer they need to come out. Because the new felt is breathable. He’s going to charge me £5000 for a new roof. ???? Hasn’t been right since I had fashers and gutters put on.
Good Morning. Oh no what a pickle! Surely the boards wouldn’t have caused that much of an issue! When fascia’s and soffits are removed and replaced roof felt sometimes does get damaged and should be repaired as they go. Unless they put the new fascia’s on top of the old ones and not disturbed the roof felt? If it is defiantly condensation. It will be a ventilation issue? Has a vented soffit not been used? If not you may have to get the fascia guys back to drill holes in your soffits and add round vents to allow air to circulate in roof. Hope that helps George.
Yer could of done mate. It was only a quick repair to get them by. Just before Christmas a couple of years ago. The tiles are still hanging in there! 😛
Mate, you must be a great roofer. But video itself is such mess... it just flick in front of my eyes. It certainly does not explain anything unless one is a specialist, or roofer or at least quite crafty DIY. Otherwise it says nothing, just tires ones eyes.
Gotta love a man who appreciates a second pair of hands even if they aren't up doing the same work as you. Doing this stuff alone is tedious as fuck when you've got to hop up and down for materials and tools.
Very true. I do like to take a second person on most jobs.
This is very useful. I was on the point of just replacing old wooden fascia but builder friend suggested underlying roof felt along edge is likely rotting away too.
This gives me a very clear expectation of what i might find and need to deal with whilst scaffolding is in place and before replacing old fascia boards.
I have the same concrete tiles as per this video so good to see that aswell. Thanks for sharing 👍
Glad it helped mate. Hope you got it all sorted.
Thanks for that, i have to do a similar repair so this video was really useful in getting some ideas. Appreciate you making it.
Thank you for your feed back mate. Glad it helped you out. Good luck
Redland Delta- that brings back vertical flue install memories....
Thanks for that!! :) Very helpful. I have a similar garage roof problem. During my DIY investigations I discovered what they call 'Eaves Protectors'. I like the idea and logic of those so I'll be fitting those to mine, under the roof felt... when I get around to it!!... First I have veluxes to replace on the house! Never ends!!! :)
Thanks for the comment! Definitely never ending! Good luck mate glad it helped 👍
I had this issue did the same as you and used eaves tray's that hang into the gutter pretty cheap as well and have done the job.
Nice yes agreed adding eaves trays will do the job. Hope all is still good!
Please great work. Was there a additional need to fit eaves support trays, to stop the felt sagging, especially as the felt along the gutter run was most deteriorated? Or please your thoughts on why the support trays were not fitted? My roofer did not fit them, at first on a recent re-roofing job. Many thanks for your video and your response.
Hey thanks for watching. Yes for a proper finish eave trays should be fitted. I didn’t have any at the time when I carried out this job as it was an emergency repair days before Christmas. Hope that helps.
Amazing video and explanations. The whole felt on my roof is corroding and requires changing. Its a terraced house, any ideas how much such a job would cost?
That’s a shame! I’d probably budget Scaffholding around £600 materials (felt batten) £500 labour around £1500. Hood that helps. Thanks for watching good luck!
Good job, see a lot of this with pending behind the fascia board set too high. Would replace any broken tile to give the extra coverage at such a low pitch and exposure.
Thanks for watching and your feedback mate
Waters gonna trap behind batten put back on top of fascia board then seep down behind gutter,, should have gone underneath new felt with felt support trays going into gutter, at least two tiles should have been replaced in that section alone , the fascia capping board didn't need cutting down at all and as for the scaffolding 🥴
Hi Rok A lot. Thank you for taking the time to watch, comment and explaining how you would have done the repair. Obvoiusly ever situation is different. On this particular instance I could have done a few things differnt like add felt support trays, changed tiles and had full scaffolding. But it was only a repair to get them by. (1 day before christmas) I believe the repair I carried out will last atleast 5 years which is probably longer than the rest of the roof will hold out. I informed the customer roof will need to be replaced in the near future.
There should be a tilting fillet behind the fascia board or an eaves protector or an eaves support tray. There shouldn't be a batten fixed to the top of the fascia. A 2" upstand on the fascia is correct for tile. That scaffolding tower looked very sketchy. That said it was a repair and the budget was probably minimal.
Does not look like Christmas to me..the trees are still full of leaf and green.@@everlastbuilders
@@northernscum8228 😂😂😂 Iv just double checked. I carried out this job on the 22nd December 2020. 😝
that scaffold tower is giving me palpitations lol
Haha sorry about that. Things we do for money 💰 lol
This is so helpful thank you! I have the same problem as in lower felt needs replacing. Would I be better to get the whole roof done though, because presumably the felt higher up is on the way out too? Bit worried I'll have to pay out again in a few years when I won't be able to afford it?
Hi Lesley. Thanks for watching. In my option. Higher up will last a lot longer. If you can get a roofer round for a day or so and replace lower felt using a tower scaffhold or ladders. Your on to a winner. But if you have to fork out for full Scaffholding it will properly be worth replacing the whole lot. Hope that helps
Great video for roof repairs. Why was the insulation aspect totally ignored just because its not a roofing job? The loft insulation is clearly visible and so is the exposed face of the concrete blockwork which may form part of the room wall inside the building; for example the internal wall above a window. Why was that important part of the wall totally ignored?
The absence of loft insulation in this area often results in damp just below the ceiling, often accompanied by mould. This problem can be made worse when soffitt vents are fitted and the air behind the fascia is even colder All for the sake of a small amount of insulation.
So many videos about insulating lofts; so many about ventilating lofts; many about roofs and their repairs; non that join up the dots and create a total view on all aspects of a very important part of a building structure.
Excellent video all the same!
Hi thanks for your comment. You are correct! Insulation is poor in this whole roof. I actually recently when back to this property and done more work on the roof. I did advise the landlord of the property insulation in the loft is poor. But you know what landlords are like 😝 thanks for watching and your feed back
Great job! You must have a good head for heights!
Thanks mate. Things we do for money! Iv been up and down dodgy scaffolds for many years now. I’m used to it 😝
Very helpful indeed mate!
Many thanks 👍🏻
So a part can be resealed with felt without taking all Tiles off? I ask as got leak near Chimney and felt missing there and battens rotten
Hi yes you can patch repair roofs. No need to strip all of tiles. If there’s only damage in one area. Good luck I hope you get it sorted.
Great vid bud, very helpful 👍
Keep up the good work 👏
Thanks mate. Glad it helped
What a cowboy! Rain getting through the tiles in the first place is the problem, especially when you leave broken tiles in as you did.
You should have had a scaffold up and done it in falling or felt and replaced the batons. Also you'd have two broken tiles on the water channels
The water will get trapped behind the batten at the bottom
Souldn't the felt go over the last one? Just what I was thinking
This is exactly what the roofer did for me recently but I still have a leak down the gable end side when it snowed. There’s still water mark on the top side of the room.
Sorry to hear that. Sometimes it’s a process of elimination. Hope you get it sorted :)
Did you do anything about the underlying problem, which is the rain water getting past the roof tiles and getting on to the felt anyway?
Nope. . Pitch is to low and house is top of a hill by the sea. They are doomed! Just a quick fix. It’s held out for 3 years and counting 🤞I did advise customer new roofs in a bad way
Good and clear video thanks! How are the batons normally held in place ?
Thanks Luke. When doing a full roof Batons would all be nailed as it’s quicker. So sometimes it’s a bit tricky getting the old batons of without breaking them. I normally use a flat bar. When I put batons back on I screw them as I don’t carry nails. Hope that helps. George
Handy video thanks pal
Thanks for watching 👍
Would you please let me know how much for this repairing felt? I just want to know the reference price.
Thanks for this staight up information video lad
No probs. Good luck mate
Health and safety should always come first, stay safe guys.
Could I ask how much a job like this would typically cost?
Hi sorry for late reply. I would say for a standard terrace house. Front and back not including scaffholding. Around £600
Hi how much would the total cost incl scaffoldding?
Just what I needed to know- thanks a lot! 👍
Hope it helps. Thanks for watching 😃
How much would a job like this typically cost ballpark on a 3-bed semi with pitched roof?
Hi I’d say around £500-£1000 scaffold and 400-1000 labour if only doing the first meter up on the roof.
Is it the done thing just to replace say bottom 3 row of tiles worth of membrane when its rotten just at bottom? Genuine question
@AshleyS994 normally the felt at bottom Rots away before felt at top of roof so as a repair we just do bottom
no handrail on the tower, ooohhhh dodgy ,
Thanks for watching the video Russell. You are right very dodgy! Always put up handrails on scaffholding!
Really helpful. Thanks
Great! Glad it helped! Good luck
Is that a tower or a diving board 😮
😂 luckily no diving took place that day!
whenever I've done roofs always a 300mm layer of damp proof course at eaves level lasts for ever
Hi Michael yer we used to do that to back in the day when I used to do new fascia’s and soffits if the felt was damaged
please can you explain what this means, I am new to this and about to embark on installing eaves trays, and replacing some felt if needed in that same area.
Where you say leave a 300mm layer, how does that look, like 300mm overlapped on top or?
Hi damp proof course (DPC) was used a lot back in the day. It’s just a thick plastic sheet. But nowadays if your using eaves trays don’t worry about using a DPC. BUT obviously u still need roofing membrane over the top of the eave trays. Good luck
Brilliant video
Thanks for your feedback Lewis. Much appropriated!
This is exactly my issue atm!!
Oh sorry to hear that. It is a very common issue. Hope you manage to get it sorted Julie
@@everlastbuilders I sent your video to a roofer local to me and got a quote £1500, thankyou for your help by doing a great video!
Brilliant! Glad my video helped out. Thank you for watching :)
What about the broken tiles?
Broken tiles are still there a year on. The job was an emergency job a few days before Christmas. I definitely didn’t have time to go find replacements. Thanks for watching
Hi my roofer used TRAYS but he also used thin boards to stop the felt sagging. Now the tiny drips of condensation have turned to running water all along the wall and condensation. Is this caused by the boards? I’ve been told be another roofer they need to come out. Because the new felt is breathable. He’s going to charge me £5000 for a new roof. ???? Hasn’t been right since I had fashers and gutters put on.
Good Morning. Oh no what a pickle! Surely the boards wouldn’t have caused that much of an issue! When fascia’s and soffits are removed and replaced roof felt sometimes does get damaged and should be repaired as they go. Unless they put the new fascia’s on top of the old ones and not disturbed the roof felt?
If it is defiantly condensation. It will be a ventilation issue? Has a vented soffit not been used? If not you may have to get the fascia guys back to drill holes in your soffits and add round vents to allow air to circulate in roof. Hope that helps George.
Great work
Thanks John
I would expect to see new battens.
Yer could of done mate. It was only a quick repair to get them by. Just before Christmas a couple of years ago. The tiles are still hanging in there! 😛
Thank you
Mate bravo on doing the work on a tower, I would of s*** my pants up there.
Haha thanks mate. Things we do for money! Iv done A lot worse! Not so much theses days tho
@@everlastbuilders geez, a step ladder is bad enough for me 🤣
@@rome3766 lol. I didn’t have a choice being a young double glazier. I was always the one who had to do the ladder work.
Don't think I could truss myself on that thing.
lol truss me it was fine
Pity camera wasn't fixed 🤢 and seeing job from start to finish would have been helpful ie how to get first row off
Hi. Sorry about that. Ever days a learning day for me.
Hey gents, where are you located?
Hello Marly, A little town called Eastbourne In East Sussex.
George
no buddy use anti-ponding board
Exactly how not to do it
What a pity the images kept moving because your camera moved all the time
Yer sorry mate! Every days a learning day!
Dude you needed plastic felt support trays waters going to piss in
Don't let the HSE see this!
Haha or my Mum
camera moving to much
I do apologise for my novice camera action.
Mate, you must be a great roofer. But video itself is such mess... it just flick in front of my eyes. It certainly does not explain anything unless one is a specialist, or roofer or at least quite crafty DIY. Otherwise it says nothing, just tires ones eyes.