@@asamimoon5789 well some lolita is more historical, or uses themes of history, but really its sad we have to still have these conversations in this day and age, one cant just be who they are, our country has problems and is comming apart at the seams if you parden the fashion pun, one would have thought we would have moved past hate or unjust treatment in this day and age, we as a contry have other very large fish to fry like fighting covid, and others that wish to ruin our way of life in the usa your coord though looks really nice well coordnated, pretty
People get so shook when black women have other interests that don’t include Hip Hop and Hot Cheetos, lol ! Like oh my god, its so freaking frustrating!
Exactly!!! I've even worn punk and goth and got ragged about it but IDGAF and never have, so when I finally get my first co-ord set up, im NOT gonna be overly sensitive about others opinions AKA they ain't buying my clothes fuck those hoes!!!
Isn’t it tho?! They want us to be stereotypical but then complain when we adhere to stereotypes and tell us to broaden our horizons and “stop being ghetto”. Like can I just live please?????
Lolita is already not historically correct. People always seem to find the worst reasons their their terrible biases. You’re beautiful and dress amazing and being happy in what you’re wearing is what the fashion is all about.
yeah !! most of the patterning on jsks/sks and other pieces are just done for fun/visual appeal and if they do try to be historical, like rococo styled ones, it’s exaggerated on purpose and to show off more ruffles than necessary :p
Exactly! Lolita fashion and historical reenactment are two completely different things. Anyone interested in fashion history and historical reenactment would know immediately by the mash-up of different sleeve/bodice/skirt silhouettes or decorative details inspired by different eras of historical fashion, by the prints/colour schemes and dress materials, and by the skirt lengths that lolita is a modern fashion style that does not depend on conformity to "historical accuracy".
I'm not lolita, but I don't get how a black person wearing it is "historically innacurate". So does that mean that Japanese people who started this style are "historically innacurate"?
* cries I'm yellow undertones * 😭 I swear, pastel colors looks awful in me. :( Edit: All of you are SO NICE and SWEET! Thank you so much, the thing is I have olive skin, and even warm colors look odd, but I would search for tones that would suit me.
@@Cloverfr look for warmer tones pastels, see If that makes a difference. I have a very neutral undertone but I like cooler tones because my natural hair is a cool shade of dark Brown. Try Peach, yellow, Orange, warm greens, warm blues...
On "pastels on Black skin"... literally every Easter you will find women and men of color FLEXING in pastel purples, yellows, pinks, and greens. The darker the person, the better it usually looks! Dark skin/clothing makes pastel shine like nothing else can. It's LITERALLY a color aesthetic. Pastel Goths? Pastel Emo? Pastel Grunge is a thing! Honestly, pastels look more mature and intentional against something darker in clothes, makeup, and design. Lolita is not magically the exception because it's based off of Victorian and Rococo fashion. Black people existed along with everyone else back then in SEVERAL social classes IN and OUT of European history. Medieval POC's tumblr is literally all about Blacks and other POC in "historically accurate" positions (not just in slavery!) and is a good read for anyone who really wants to learn what "historically accurate" really means for POC.
Yea I feel like I've seen poc wear pastel suits on the red carpet and they fuckin WORK it BABY. I'm terrible at celebrity names tho so idk who specifically.
I can't believe that someone said that you should ware classic lolita because it "looks like slave clothes". That was just awful and I'm sorry that someone said that to you. Lolita Fashion is for everyone not just people with light skin.
Even if it is about historical accuracy, saying that shows the ignorance of that person. There have been black people in Britain since the Roman times, and there were black people in the middle classes throughout British history. So if they’re on about historical accuracy, they’re embarrassing themselves on so many fronts: I can’t
I thought it was such a cute touch to pour us some tea. It's like I'm there! Also I'm glad to see Kat Blaque here cuz I IMMEDIATELY thought of True Tea.
The worse thing about that is that there were rich free Black people in America at the time and rich Black Victorians. One of Queen Victoria's (the 1st) adopted daughters was African! Someone who is saying that obviously doesn't love history or know anything about that era.
Joining in with those expressing disgust at the "historically accurate" nonsense. Madam C. J. Walker strikes me as a Black Victorian era woman who had way more money than I'll probably EVER see so that so called "point" is utterly false and invalid. 99% of Victorian ANYONE couldn't afford House of Worth gowns, yet white ladies tooootaaaallllly can wear one to a historical costume event with no one questioning their validity. I hate it thanks. Lolita isn't a 'historically accurate' in any way shape or form fashion ANYWAYS. Also we live in 2020. You can dress in whatever era's fashion you want. PERIOD.
If you look into victorian era history there were black and colored people living in Europe and elsewhere who could afford and confidently wore the popular clothing in that era; there was just no effort put into keeping records of those peoples lives in the mainstream. Asami already calls out the fact that these people don't really care about historical accuracy; they just want to make Black people uncomfortable because they are uncomfortable with us.
Your comment on undertones is SPOT ON. I've seen so many black lolitas pull off pastels SO well. While I'm a caucasian with warm-yellow undertones, and cold pastels look hideous on me. People who say that only people with pale skin can wear light/bright colour have absolutely zero knowledge of how colour theory works. It's just an excuse to hide their racism
I agree especially for bright colors! In my opinion bright colors look best on darker skin because it isn’t overpowering. The same bright pink or orange that makes me (caucasian/Korean) look like a highlighter I think looks so lively on a darker skinned person.
I have a degree in art. Weird flex, I know, but what I was going to say that: Yes. You are correct. Most people don't know how colour theory works and most people aren't up for any kind of experimentation or expression. Which is very depressing.
I'm a brown latinx and this year I realized I have this internalized colorism about some fashions. I always thought how cool Lolita looks but always after it came the "but it's just not for me" kind of logic, that it was nice *only* in people with light skin. That's why you beeing here and talking about your experiences it's important to people like me, that had never really questioned themselves about this ideas. Thanks!
Historically inaccurate? It's loosely inspired by 2 different eras more that a century apart, it's not historical costuming. Lolita's aren't out there reenacting the revolutionary war.
SAME! I sat my ass up and drank my water because the laziness was too real to go downstairs and make tea but the "here you go love" I couldn't just lay there we're now having a convo 😂
oh honey that's nothing! wait until they come for culture! and tell how to act while in lolita! then delivering the baddest coord in the whole meet, somebody comments "wow, that's so experimental, good for you"
The AUDACITY lol. Like who's out here thinking every black person was a slave?! I'm so angry like take 5 seconds and Google it before you open ur ignorant mouth. Their understanding of history is historically inaccurate! Thank you for sharing! Talking about this and how messed up it is is so important and makes me feel heard. (Also sharing the tea was wicked cute!)
I really enjoyed this video. Being black is really stopping me from wearing Lolita. Especially with the recent events, I don't feel confident in my skin. I'm not sure how my family would react either. Lolita is completely opposite from my everyday jeans and a T-shirt. My friends are supportive though. I also live in Nebraska where everyone is very conservative. I don't think I'd handle the attention well, but I'd like to give it a shot soon. The gold star clip is pretty 💛
❤ I'm so sorry to hear that you don't feel safe and comfortable to dress the way you want. It's very understandable and there is nothing wrong on putting your safety as a priority. If you would like to start with lolita fashion..maybe try wearing casual lolita outfits? Like a nice lolita skirt, a grear petticoat and T-shirt (Japanese lolita brands have good ones but you could check them out for inspiration and get something similar elsewhere) or a simple blouse. Maybe small hair accessories.. No need to go full baroque lolita from the beginning. Good luck! 💖
Don't let anything stop you but you! People are always gonna have opinions about what you do say wear etc but they don't live your life for you. Wear what makes you happy!!
The comment about "historical accuracy" made me angry (the whole video made me a bit angry, but that stood out for some reason), I'm so sorry you had to deal with that kind of attitude!! Lolita is not supposed to be historically accurate... the frick. Rococo era women didn't have bears and candy on their dresses. Even if they did, it's irrelevant..... Thank you so much for making this video. I love that you made two cups of tea, made me feel like I was listening to you in person.
On the note of parents: I grew up with Jamaican parents so I feel you on the traditional/oppressive home culture thing. My mom was actually very supportive of my fashion and cosplay and makeup... my dad... I just kinda learned to not encounter him while dressed in any OTT Jfashion. On the note of "historic" accuracy: I believe you 100%. People really don't think there are these racist comments that get thrown at black Lolita but it happens so often. On the note of racist commentary: 😂THE STAR CENSOR. I'm glad you let her know, I'm so glad. "You're not black black" is the most telling trash to hear and the Islamophobic comments, her lack of understanding of your (or anyone's) confidence in being black or plus sized, ...all that garbage just adds to the poor character she clearly has. Dark skin and pastels are LIIIIIIFEEEEE
Speaking as someone who is predominantly white with some hispanic and went to a private christian school (long since left and now atheist) with mostly white people, what she meant by not "black black" is that you act and dress white enough that you don't come off as the gross stereotypes she has in her mind. You basically crushed her stupid little ego box and she didn't know what to label you other than "not actually black-black". I'm so sorry you had to deal with a "friend" like that. I just found your channel and I'm already obsessed! You feel and look like an elegant Lolita queen who rules her frilly kingdom with a level head and grace
I really appreciate hearing your story and perspective. The jfashion and cosplay community has been very unwelcoming to POC and I'm sorry that you've experienced these microagressions as well as outright prejudice and racism. Your ex friend is wildly offensive and I'm glad you were able to separate yourself from someone who bred that kind of negativity. As a white midwestertner who had one black boy in her grade it really means the world to me to hear stories like these so I can continue to learn about things I will never fully understand. You are a beautiful lolita 💕
You and your best friend look so cute together! Also, on the subject of cultural appropriation- ugh, what annoys me about "cultural appropriation" is when people use that as a smoke screen to prevent someone of a different race to be included in that culture. It's like, do people not realize culture is chosen? Yes we're all born into a certain culture but we each have the capacity to accept and live that culture, or reject it and find another culture that suits us better. Telling a black lolita they are "culturally appropriating" fashion is just veiled racism. (Cuz if that's true then the original asian lolitas are also culturally appropriating english victorian fashion, and no one seems to be mad about that)
Plus, There’s a difference between taking a casual thing that’s meant to be public and/or commercial, like j fashion, And ripping something with a specific or sacred meaning. Lolita brands literally sell overseas!
Dark skin tones and pastel colors are perfect together!! It’s just basic color theory! I wish there was more dark skinned Lolita and Kawaii representation in brands and modeling!!
I could be wrong here ( i dont know much about the community or where this girl lives) but just from the parent comment sounds like its could be that dutch venus girl. (The one thats famous for tryna look asian)
ughh i literally had to argue with someone ignorant before over them saying "if your not white you can't wear pastels, jfashion, lolita, etc" the argument ended with them saying it was just their "preference" and it rlly disgusted me, people can't choose their skin color and should be able to wear whatever they like without getting backlash :( i'd really like a purple star pls ^-^
Girl.. when you said that someone has told you it’s not historically correct for you to be wearing that, and then proceeded to use the word “slave” in reference to how you should be dressed... my jaw SMACKED the floor honey. How you didn’t knock the absolute sh!t out of them baffles me. You’re way better than me because they would’ve left that conversation missing a tooth at the very least.
I'm sorry you dealt with so much negativity. Going back to the "historically accurate" debate, slavery ended in England *before* the Victorian era started. There were many wealthy Black people who wore the top fashions, my ancestors were among them. It's sad that people don't really know history or even fashion history. You look great!
NEVER in my life did I think "oh, Lolita fashion & subculture is ONLY for White/Asian Japanese women." (I'm white, but I lived in Japan in the early 2000's, when Lolita subculture was really taking off; LOVED going to Harajuku!) You go girl, you are so beautiful and downright cool!
I feel so underdressed watching this video in my comfy clothes lol. Your coords are always amazing. The assertion that there weren't black and brown people wearing fashion in any period of time is so absurd. There have been people of different races in every society wearing the fashion of the time.
Deeply side eyeing the people that are still friends with that ex-friend or just stayed silent while they were spilling that bs to you at your friends house??? That's some ridiculous shit right there wth
I wish knew more people like you when I was in middle school and high school, I'd wear some (this was in the early 2000s, there was no Amazon and my Mom didn't want to buy me 'this stuff') Lolita pieces and outfits and get teased so bad!! Videos like these are so important for kids/adults who like this style or any style outside the Black hip-hop stereotype. They get to watch other Black people living outside of monolith narrative that we can only be Black a certain way. We can be quirky, we can be feminine, we can be a girl boss, a Goth, a fairy, a Queen, hell you can still be a scene kid!
the "here you go love" as you handed us tea actually almost made me cry for some reason?? this whole vibe is absolutely amazing and i want to start doing lolita so bad but i have no money to start another expensive hobby....
You won me over when you poured us tea. Yea that gal you were talking about about half way through, yeah she was being racist af. You did right thing to cut that toxicity out of your life. I have no idea how I found your channel, but I am jealous. I love the Lolita style and honestly some of us white folks, such as myself, simply do not look good in most pastels. If you can pull off the colors, honey, wear them. Btw:Totally checking out the rest of your videos.😉 I get teased because I am a mom of seven that absolutely adores kawaii, lolita, and most especially mori girl.
I am so angry on your behalf over these micro aggressions you have had to experience. You are a wonderful person and I am so glad that new poc lolitas have someone to go to.
9:40 "And racist aren't my cup of tea!" I cannot believe the sheer audacity that they had to make fun of you like that while you were THERE!!! If that was me, I would've been calling them out for it left and right. You definitely had more patience than me!!! P.S. The lavender one is pretty!!!
"They see me as the little polka dot in the group." I know you're describing something really unfortunate, but that is the cutest way to describe it I've ever heard lol. I really appreciated hearing your prospective on this. I'm not lolita and don't know much about it, but you're making me want be just so I can be your friend and have tea parties with you! You are so adorable!!!!
My first exposure to Lolita was a girl in my hs who wore sweet lolita every single day. She was a few years below my grade but I remember her pretty clearly. She was also Black. I'm sure she got bullied for it, though I can't say by whom exactly. Every single time I saw her she was doing her thing, being cute, wearing pastel pink. Gatekeepers can die mad.
Honestly I never got the whole "pastel/light colours look bad on dark skin" because like... it's so dreamy and gorgeous? I don't know how to explain it but I love it so much and really anyone can wear anything they want. And if it makes them feel good? Go for it! I really just love this video and you're so beautiful~ I'll be sure to stick around! Also, thanks for the tea~ ^^
You are COMPLETELY and INFINITELY correct. Black Lolita's are stunning in LITERALLY every style. Classic, gothic, sweet, ALL OF IT. These racist/ignorant/uninformed people are so caught up in their bland af monotone illustrations of pale lolitas and don't recognize the absolute beauty of melanin with lolita. Thank you for standing strong with your fashion and being so lovely! Also I adore your video style. Thank you for pouring tea for the viewers that was so sweet!! Also your tea set is GORGEOUS is it an antique?
I have just started watching your content - you are such an inspiration! One of my favorite people is a Black woman. What she told me so far is so damn scary, yet, I am grateful that she is opening up to me about it. Even in our so "open-minded" work-environment where we have to deal with international customers she is faced with racism - incl. by colleagues. She knows how to fight back better than anyone I know in such clever ways. Also, I am part of the international vintage community with people loving 1920s-60s fashion and have heard in our community from our melanin members, that they´ve experienced similar shit as you did - certain colours do not suite them, not historically accurate and more ignorant or even harrassing comments. It makes me so angry, that people put others down. Why can we not just cheer for others and support them? Despite not wearing Lolita (anymore), I am cheering for everyone who found their passion and comfort with it. Fashion is meant to be played with. Who is in the position to tell anyone how to be happy or how to live the life of someone else? If a Muslim lolita is also a Hijabi - great! If a melanin lolita is wearing pastels - great! If a trans girl is wearing the biggest wigs and skirts - great! It´s about self-expression and comfort in your own skin. Btw, in my opinion melanin skin looks amazing in any colour (and super pale me would look hideous in pastels, yellow...)
Thank you for that tea! I hope I never have to interact with that lolita. Hearing/reading the things certain people have to say makes me really wanna hit my head against a wall. I hope all lolitas of color know that there is a place for them in this community and that they are all beautiful! P.s. I love the Silver star :)
Also I full on cringed at hearing that someone actually said "you're not historically accurate, you should wear this style because it looks more like slave clothes" LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK?!
Clearly that racist girl was bothered by black Lolitas because she's intimidated by their confidence. It's so sad that she put so much effort into putting someone down that didn't "look right in Lolita". That doesn't add up. You, along with all those black Lolitas you posted look beautiful. I am not a Lolita nor do I participate in alternative fashion, but I admire you guys. You are super kind and strong.
Youu slaay! I am a latina girl and I really strugled to find someone not white as a wall wearing lolita style... (I'm not racist, just I really love Lolita fashion but I felt soo o insecure to wear it because I am not white) Thank you for be yourself!! 💓🌺🌸
Love alt poc(especially darksin women) who aren't afraid to do things that would be considered "white" in the black community,it rlly inspires me more to hopefully get a style that I want without being scared of what others think.
It's so important to normalize speaking up when others have mistreated you. I really appreciate the vulnerability you shared with your viewers in this video.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It is disheartening that lolita fashion, for all the joy it brings and the community spirit it can foster, is still but a microcosmos of the mainstream society, meaning that it's not immune from racists, bigots and genuinely terrible people. I'm happy that that racist person you cut out of your life is no longer affecting you and I hope that if they are still part of the lolita community, that someone else is calling them out on their bs. Because it is not acceptable and no community should tolerate that kind of behaviour from anyone.
I literately screamed when you shared that people have said that you were "historically incorrect" and mentioned you should wear classic because it is closer to slave clothing! Firstly, what makes that an acceptable thing to say?! Secondly, their argument doesn't hold water since, like you mentioned, the other Lolitas present were also not historically accurate. I am so glad that you cut ties with that racist Lolita and I am happy others have put her in her place as well. I freaking HATE the "you're not Black-Black" or "but your different" argument. My blood boiled during your stories but I am so happy that you shared them. You are phenomenal and the fact that people can connect with you as a mentor is incredible! As a side note I love the way you shot this video. I felt like I was there in person drinking tea ; c ;
I love the purple hair clip. I am so delighted that we started wearing lolita at around the same time and we're both thicc lolitas. I feel so connected to u. I have recently thought about making some lolita/kawaii fashion content on my you tube channel in order to have more reach and help other people like me or just people in general who want to get into the fashion. and I love your wardrobe. I hope mine will look like that one day. I've slowly been getting rid of a lot of my "normie" cloths I dont wear and replacing them with loloia/kawaii fashion. I cant wait til the day comes when I look at my wardrobe and love every single piece in it.
Building my wardrobe to where I loved every single item took years but I’m finally there! Take things slow and don’t be afraid to pass up some pieces to find ones that you REALLY like.
TLDR: lolita's not accurate it's inspired, and there were absolutely historical and fashionable black women. Historically accurate isn't something I would call lolita in general. HOWEVER, there were, in fact, Blacks in distinguished and well-paying careers in pre-civil war America. They weren't treated with the same respect as their white peers but they did wear the same styles of clothing. We just don't talk about them because talking about it would on a surface level muddy the issue of racism during the slavery period making it look more targeted towards slaves rather than Blacks. But as I said at the beginning lolita isn't strictly accurate to history, to begin with, it's much closer to an idealized history or fantasy than actual history (as most Historical Asian things about the western world are). Pics here (www.nps.gov/articles/african-american-women-and-the-nineteenth-amendment.htm)
I LITERALLY AM SEEING RED listening to you telling the story of that one person... Who do they think they are?! *SCREAMS* I got so angry listening to your experiences, it breaks my heart but to see you leaving them in the dirt where they belong is exactly what is right. You are so above them! Keep being your absolutely perfect and incredibly stylish self. You are so beautiful and anyone who has the GALL to make such derogatory comments against you is not worthy of anything. You are worthy of it all!
The tea in your experiences!!! I wish I knew who this person was so i could make sure to avoid them. Hopefully recent events will have opened their minds to changing their behaviors. But I'm glad you spoke out about it!! Awesome video!!!
The idea that you're criticised for being "not historical accurate" for wearing lolita. OBVIOUSLY. LOLITA ISNT BOUND BY HISTORICALLY ACCURACY. They're just mad because they have an idea of what a black person "should" look like and you don't fit it.
When she talked about ppl telling her that shes not historically accurate and should dress like a slave, my mouth dropped! Wat the fuck is wrong with people, holy shit! :O Beautiful channel! Just found it thru this vid, her lolita style is so pretty!
I'm a black goth that just got into lolita and BABYYYYYYYYY I love sweet and can't imagine wearing gothic or classic I LOVE the way it looks 😍 but on me its just....meh I love seeing black lolitas in mint and pink thank you SO much for this video (I know I'm late af)
i appreciate you giving your experiences on being a black lolita! i’m only recently starting my sweet lolita journey and i love to hear from other kawaii black girls about how they have navigated the fashion!
I'm so thankful to the youtube algorithm for letting me discover you! The instant you handed over that tea, I knew I'd found a new lolita ytuber to follow!~ Thank you for sharing your experiences to help educate others and let them have a glimpse into how it is as a black girl in alt fashion, despite how it must hurt to think about these things again. And also, thank you for making me crave tea, haha!
the claims of "historical inaccuracy" are unfounded, it's been shown that any person in the time periods were generally wearing the same thing with different materials that they could obtain with their salary, this extends to slaves and other POC of any era. (bernadette banner uploaded a talk done by americanduchess and notyomommashistory about historical hair and makeup and somewhat historical dress, and i implore all of you to watch the talk, it's amazing)
Thank you for this video, I had no idea about this perspective/experience which black persons may face while dressing alternatively/ specifically Lolita. I’m totally subscribing! Also, I think it’s awesome you stood up to that unnamed ignorant (racist) person, fashion is not exclusive and everyone has the right to express themselves! (And my god, how can people gatekeep alternative fashion?! Historically accurate smh that’s such a blatant racist remark. People should be celebrating that everyone can dress however the hell they want.)
What is wrong with people?! I cant believe someone would say things like that to you! Everything she said to you was terrible but that "ppl with dark skin dont look human" comment really got to me! Thanks for sharing your experience... it's really eye opening... I'm so sorry you've had to experience things like that. Like I know there are a ton of racist ppl out there, but to say such blatantly racist things to you while trying to act like it's not directed at you because "you're not black black" is just insane.
Imagine seeing someone happy doing something harmless like wear clothes they love and you have to say "Hey, you can't do that! You're the wrong color!" I do have a question for lolitas of color out there: Do men treat you extra creepy or fetishy if they see you in your cords? It's way more noticeable with white dudes, but I've had men of all colors see me, a Native American gal, in alternative fashion and think that means I'm somehow super kinky because I'm not running around with a feather in my hair or some crap. For reference, I usually dress like it's the 90's and grunge is still a thing.
This video was so amazing, thank you for this! As a long time lolita (12 years in the NYC community) I've experienced a smattering here and there of bad racial experiences, but I've noticed way less because I'm lighter skinned and thin, but my friends who are darker skinned and or plus sized get treated differently by other lolitas and normies. These layers of marginalization are infuriating to me. It's so important to me to uplift and support other Black lolitas of all shades and sizes 💕 even as another Black lolita. The historical inaccuracy comment was probably the most upsetting because like other people commented, lolita is not meant to be historically accurate and 2, there were black people in the Victorian era who were not slaves and were actually affluent and wore clothing like this....like wtf! So ignorant....😡 Anyway you are amazing and an inspiration so thank you for sharing your story 💕💕💕🙏🏽
Great video! It's really shitty that you have had to deal with all that racism and horrible comments as a black lolita. Great job of you speaking about it! And I'm really glad to hear you got rid of that person from your life. Also really like the longer video! Hope you have a good day ⭐✨
I'm so sorry you experienced such injustice. The overt ones in friend groups are very jarring. Sometimes it's the subtle ones they want to get away with like making you put your own bag away that get under my skin. I have a close friend who is black and am Asian myself
My first time to the Tea party. Thank you for all the cups of tea and the commentary was super insightful. I am sorry you have to go through so much shade just to wear the clothes you like. I am 30 and dress like Christopher Robin meets a clown and that makes me happy. You do you girl. Subscribed ❤
I have been a fan of Lolita fashion for over a decade but I’ve always been afraid to jump in the community because of my size. I remember back in the day when there weren’t as many resources as there are now and the Lolita comms in livejournal were pretty vicious so I just kept admiring it from afar. Even now as we’re seeing more and more diverse faces and bodies in kawaii fashion I still get shy. I’m currently in a maid cafe and i feel really comfortable when I’m “in character” as a maid and with my sisters in maid uniform, but I’ve yet to feel that level of confidence in casual kawaii clothing 😅 two of my cafe sisters just bought their first Lolita dream dresses and now I’m like “BITCH ME TOO!” So now I’m on the hunt for my own dream dress. I just wanna make one coord... just one and I’ll feel fulfilled lol. Btw I just subscribed and I’m loving your content 💕I’m also from the dmv and I’m glad I discovered your channel 😊
This is the first video I've seen of you, I'm not even a minute in and the fact you offered me a cup of tea and called me love is enough to subscribe instantly.
Love your set up ^_^ thank you for the tea. People never understand Lolita fashion, whenever I would wear dolly outfits people would always think it’s a kink. I feel like because of those comments I’ve made my “outfits” more normie but when I’m home I’ll change outfits to what I like. That’s so sad and disrespectful that people think you are trying to adopt another cutler or race. I love your fashion, so ornate and lovely.
Okay ngl I started tearing up because growing up I didn't really care about my skin color until puberty hit and it all went to shit and insecurities started hitting It didn't matter the style or occasion that I'm wearing what I want for but I have a really polar reaction to dressing up I wasn't a very "dark" Mexican or a sterotypical brown Mexican but I would never pass as a white person if put in a line up. So it never felt right to try things because all I saw was a specific skin tones in the style and I felt that I would step on people's toes EVEN wearing clothes from my race made me feel like a fraud I love Lolita but I still feel like it's not for me even when I see all you lovely lolita's just FUCKIN ROCKIN IT So hearing you say it's okay to wear the clothes that looks cute on me makes me so happy and makes me want to really really try it. Thank you thank you and I really love the blue star for the give away if it's not to late 🥺👉👈
Hello there! So as weird as this may sound, I'm not into wearing Lolita fashion (though it's lovely) but I've recently developed an affinity for videos of people who are. I find it immensely refreshing to watch some Lolitas' videos because they have such thoughtful and wise perspectives on unabashedly being who they are and expressing themselves exactly how they see fit. I suppose that as a lesbian who came of age in the early 2000s when things were way less tolerant, I relate in my own way to sticking out and getting comfortable in my own skin against some rotten people's wishes. You are most definitely one of these people who exudes wisdom and confidence and your insight into being a Lolita of color is enlightening (albeit infuriating at times when the comments thrown your way are astoundingly ignorant). Anyway, I really enjoy your videos and look forward to more. Thanks for the tea! :-)
I loved the way you made this a little chit chat. You have some wild stories but I’m happy you didn’t let that discourage you from being in the fashion. You’re such an inspiration and I’m so happy for you and the growth on your channel. Thanks for the cup of tea 💗
The level of immaturity of racist people is disgusting. I was so repulsed to hear all the terrible things you experienced. You are amazing and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. 💕💕
Calling someone's princess-y frivolous fancy fashion "historically inaccurate" is SO ignorant and cringe i actually felt my soul leave my body
Right?! I was like 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@asamimoon5789 well some lolita is more historical, or uses themes of history, but really its sad we have to still have these conversations in this day and age, one cant just be who they are, our country has problems and is comming apart at the seams if you parden the fashion pun, one would have thought we would have moved past hate or unjust treatment in this day and age, we as a contry have other very large fish to fry like fighting covid, and others that wish to ruin our way of life in the usa
your coord though looks really nice well coordnated, pretty
I work at rennaisance faires and OUR shit isn't historically accurate.
They're clothes, live your damn life.
@@floralfancy7814 i guess you could go with that
As if back in the day there weren't like Black aristocrats in certain areas mm'kay then
People get so shook when black women have other interests that don’t include Hip Hop and Hot Cheetos, lol ! Like oh my god, its so freaking frustrating!
You make a good point, everyone in this world can different interests.
Right? It's like...let ppl enjoy things.
LOL @ the hot Cheetos! But it's so true, unfortunately.
Exactly!!! I've even worn punk and goth and got ragged about it but IDGAF and never have, so when I finally get my first co-ord set up, im NOT gonna be overly sensitive about others opinions AKA they ain't buying my clothes fuck those hoes!!!
Isn’t it tho?! They want us to be stereotypical but then complain when we adhere to stereotypes and tell us to broaden our horizons and “stop being ghetto”. Like can I just live please?????
Lolita is already not historically correct. People always seem to find the worst reasons their their terrible biases. You’re beautiful and dress amazing and being happy in what you’re wearing is what the fashion is all about.
Also the set up of having tea with the viewer is so cute and amazing that it is maintained during the whole video.
@@andrewchelton6710 right? shes so sweet :,) definitely gonna sub to drink more tea with her
yeah !! most of the patterning on jsks/sks and other pieces are just done for fun/visual appeal
and if they do try to be historical, like rococo styled ones, it’s exaggerated on purpose and to show off more ruffles than necessary :p
Exactly! Lolita fashion and historical reenactment are two completely different things. Anyone interested in fashion history and historical reenactment would know immediately by the mash-up of different sleeve/bodice/skirt silhouettes or decorative details inspired by different eras of historical fashion, by the prints/colour schemes and dress materials, and by the skirt lengths that lolita is a modern fashion style that does not depend on conformity to "historical accuracy".
I'm not lolita, but I don't get how a black person wearing it is "historically innacurate". So does that mean that Japanese people who started this style are "historically innacurate"?
Exactly!!
that’s so true!! who even said it has to be historically accurate? do they think people back then wore cute, pink prints, too?
And on that note, there WERE black people in Victorian England that were middle class and affluent. Google can be your friend.
Right Lolita influence was not solely based on Japanese culture there are many aspects from European culture
Exactly! I talk a little about this in my newest video coming out this weekend
I think that pastel colors were made for darker skin tones, they complement dark skin like a dream.🥰
Right?!
I second that
* cries I'm yellow undertones * 😭
I swear, pastel colors looks awful in me. :(
Edit: All of you are SO NICE and SWEET! Thank you so much, the thing is I have olive skin, and even warm colors look odd, but I would search for tones that would suit me.
@@Cloverfr look for warmer tones pastels, see If that makes a difference. I have a very neutral undertone but I like cooler tones because my natural hair is a cool shade of dark Brown. Try Peach, yellow, Orange, warm greens, warm blues...
@@Cloverfr Calista looks on her videos like she has a warm tone skin and she looks lively in pastels.
On "pastels on Black skin"... literally every Easter you will find women and men of color FLEXING in pastel purples, yellows, pinks, and greens. The darker the person, the better it usually looks! Dark skin/clothing makes pastel shine like nothing else can. It's LITERALLY a color aesthetic. Pastel Goths? Pastel Emo? Pastel Grunge is a thing!
Honestly, pastels look more mature and intentional against something darker in clothes, makeup, and design. Lolita is not magically the exception because it's based off of Victorian and Rococo fashion. Black people existed along with everyone else back then in SEVERAL social classes IN and OUT of European history.
Medieval POC's tumblr is literally all about Blacks and other POC in "historically accurate" positions (not just in slavery!) and is a good read for anyone who really wants to learn what "historically accurate" really means for POC.
I’ll have to look up that tumblr, thanks!
Yea I feel like I've seen poc wear pastel suits on the red carpet and they fuckin WORK it BABY. I'm terrible at celebrity names tho so idk who specifically.
Personally I don't get the "HiStoRicAlLy aCcuRaTE" argument CLOTHES. ARE. CLOTHES.
Yea I think bright pastels work best on dark skin because it pops out more. That’s why their white teeth also pop out and look even more stunning
I can't believe that someone said that you should ware classic lolita because it "looks like slave clothes". That was just awful and I'm sorry that someone said that to you. Lolita Fashion is for everyone not just people with light skin.
What an insult to both her and the fashion
I am speechless- who even says that?
Even if it is about historical accuracy, saying that shows the ignorance of that person. There have been black people in Britain since the Roman times, and there were black people in the middle classes throughout British history. So if they’re on about historical accuracy, they’re embarrassing themselves on so many fronts: I can’t
It made my jaw just completely drop. Like, that's just a fucked up thing for someone to say.
I appreciate that you poured us tea. :)
I can’t sip alone ❤️
I was literally just watching one of your videos before this ❤
Pour the ☕️
Yes! That was so charming and such a sweet touch!
I thought it was such a cute touch to pour us some tea. It's like I'm there! Also I'm glad to see Kat Blaque here cuz I IMMEDIATELY thought of True Tea.
Personal preference is "I don't wear sweet, I prefer Gothic."
NOT "I don't think an entire type of people should be able to wear a certain thing."
Whose skin is not always the same color
I want to throw hands at the person who said that your clothes need to be closer to slave clothes. ರ╭╮ರ
SO gross! People are disgusting how could you say that to someone!?
I want to kick them in the back of the knees
The worse thing about that is that there were rich free Black people in America at the time and rich Black Victorians. One of Queen Victoria's (the 1st) adopted daughters was African! Someone who is saying that obviously doesn't love history or know anything about that era.
Yea they were purely speaking out of ignorance, which people love to do 😖
You: "let me get you set up" * pours tea *
Me: "I-is that really for me??"
You: "here you go love" * passes cup to camera *
Me: 🥺😭😭😭💕
My heart is so warm and fuzzy from the tea 💕
My heart melted
I'm not sure if I should be happy she offered me a cup, or sad I can't drink it.
Ikkkkkrrrr...I wanna cry 😭🥺
Joining in with those expressing disgust at the "historically accurate" nonsense. Madam C. J. Walker strikes me as a Black Victorian era woman who had way more money than I'll probably EVER see so that so called "point" is utterly false and invalid. 99% of Victorian ANYONE couldn't afford House of Worth gowns, yet white ladies tooootaaaallllly can wear one to a historical costume event with no one questioning their validity. I hate it thanks. Lolita isn't a 'historically accurate' in any way shape or form fashion ANYWAYS. Also we live in 2020. You can dress in whatever era's fashion you want. PERIOD.
If you look into victorian era history there were black and colored people living in Europe and elsewhere who could afford and confidently wore the popular clothing in that era; there was just no effort put into keeping records of those peoples lives in the mainstream. Asami already calls out the fact that these people don't really care about historical accuracy; they just want to make Black people uncomfortable because they are uncomfortable with us.
Exactly! Not to mention it misses the many reasons why many people like to dress Lolita, which is often nothing to do with historical accuracy!
When she handed us the tea, I knew she was a real one
Aweeee 🥺
I felt sooo welcome
Your comment on undertones is SPOT ON. I've seen so many black lolitas pull off pastels SO well. While I'm a caucasian with warm-yellow undertones, and cold pastels look hideous on me. People who say that only people with pale skin can wear light/bright colour have absolutely zero knowledge of how colour theory works. It's just an excuse to hide their racism
Yes! And she's so right about yellow it looks awful on me. That kind of thing is effected by so much more than just melanin. Under. Tones!
I agree especially for bright colors! In my opinion bright colors look best on darker skin because it isn’t overpowering. The same bright pink or orange that makes me (caucasian/Korean) look like a highlighter I think looks so lively on a darker skinned person.
Lauren Fyle I’m so sorry for laughing but when you said you look like a highlighter I couldn’t help but chuckle. XD
I have a degree in art. Weird flex, I know, but what I was going to say that: Yes. You are correct. Most people don't know how colour theory works and most people aren't up for any kind of experimentation or expression. Which is very depressing.
Asami Moon: "I hope you like the tea"
Me, sipping diet pepsi: "yeah it's great"
😭 love
phew chile that's too much "i dont like black lolitas. that's my preference"????? OH WOW. "how can you be confident?" lord jesus
I WANT A GOLD ONE (any color really)
They really hate to see it >_>
I'm a brown latinx and this year I realized I have this internalized colorism about some fashions. I always thought how cool Lolita looks but always after it came the "but it's just not for me" kind of logic, that it was nice *only* in people with light skin. That's why you beeing here and talking about your experiences it's important to people like me, that had never really questioned themselves about this ideas. Thanks!
Historically inaccurate? It's loosely inspired by 2 different eras more that a century apart, it's not historical costuming. Lolita's aren't out there reenacting the revolutionary war.
Me: in bed
You: "here you go love"
Me: shit i gotta get out of bed and make some tea now to watch this
SAME! I sat my ass up and drank my water because the laziness was too real to go downstairs and make tea but the "here you go love" I couldn't just lay there we're now having a convo 😂
I made myself tea too! This video felt like I was talking to a friend ❤️
Brewing some now XD
True
To quote dandy wellington "vintage style not vintage values"
I LITERALLY SCREAMED AT THE "HISTORICALLY INNACCURATE" THING LITERALLY SCREEAAMMMEDD
oh honey that's nothing! wait until they come for culture! and tell how to act while in lolita! then delivering the baddest coord in the whole meet, somebody comments "wow, that's so experimental, good for you"
I know! Also, it’s not even true as well!!! There were prominent black nobles in the Victorian period!
The AUDACITY lol. Like who's out here thinking every black person was a slave?! I'm so angry like take 5 seconds and Google it before you open ur ignorant mouth. Their understanding of history is historically inaccurate!
Thank you for sharing! Talking about this and how messed up it is is so important and makes me feel heard. (Also sharing the tea was wicked cute!)
Yea that girl has issues 😭 she knows NOTHING about the real world.
Enslaved* which those people couldn’t help.
I really enjoyed this video. Being black is really stopping me from wearing Lolita. Especially with the recent events, I don't feel confident in my skin. I'm not sure how my family would react either. Lolita is completely opposite from my everyday jeans and a T-shirt. My friends are supportive though. I also live in Nebraska where everyone is very conservative. I don't think I'd handle the attention well, but I'd like to give it a shot soon.
The gold star clip is pretty 💛
❤ I'm so sorry to hear that you don't feel safe and comfortable to dress the way you want. It's very understandable and there is nothing wrong on putting your safety as a priority.
If you would like to start with lolita fashion..maybe try wearing casual lolita outfits? Like a nice lolita skirt, a grear petticoat and T-shirt (Japanese lolita brands have good ones but you could check them out for inspiration and get something similar elsewhere) or a simple blouse. Maybe small hair accessories.. No need to go full baroque lolita from the beginning.
Good luck! 💖
Don't let anything stop you but you! People are always gonna have opinions about what you do say wear etc but they don't live your life for you. Wear what makes you happy!!
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@@CaptainPygar yeah, I think I'll take it slow and do something casual. Thanks! 🥰
@@chinacarter8319 Thanks 😊
The comment about "historical accuracy" made me angry (the whole video made me a bit angry, but that stood out for some reason), I'm so sorry you had to deal with that kind of attitude!! Lolita is not supposed to be historically accurate... the frick. Rococo era women didn't have bears and candy on their dresses. Even if they did, it's irrelevant.....
Thank you so much for making this video. I love that you made two cups of tea, made me feel like I was listening to you in person.
Pastels look gorgeous on dark skin! I’m sorry you had to go through all of that, I’m glad you’re a part of the lolita community. :)
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On the note of parents: I grew up with Jamaican parents so I feel you on the traditional/oppressive home culture thing. My mom was actually very supportive of my fashion and cosplay and makeup... my dad... I just kinda learned to not encounter him while dressed in any OTT Jfashion.
On the note of "historic" accuracy: I believe you 100%. People really don't think there are these racist comments that get thrown at black Lolita but it happens so often.
On the note of racist commentary: 😂THE STAR CENSOR. I'm glad you let her know, I'm so glad. "You're not black black" is the most telling trash to hear and the Islamophobic comments, her lack of understanding of your (or anyone's) confidence in being black or plus sized, ...all that garbage just adds to the poor character she clearly has.
Dark skin and pastels are LIIIIIIFEEEEE
Speaking as someone who is predominantly white with some hispanic and went to a private christian school (long since left and now atheist) with mostly white people, what she meant by not "black black" is that you act and dress white enough that you don't come off as the gross stereotypes she has in her mind. You basically crushed her stupid little ego box and she didn't know what to label you other than "not actually black-black". I'm so sorry you had to deal with a "friend" like that. I just found your channel and I'm already obsessed! You feel and look like an elegant Lolita queen who rules her frilly kingdom with a level head and grace
I really appreciate hearing your story and perspective. The jfashion and cosplay community has been very unwelcoming to POC and I'm sorry that you've experienced these microagressions as well as outright prejudice and racism. Your ex friend is wildly offensive and I'm glad you were able to separate yourself from someone who bred that kind of negativity.
As a white midwestertner who had one black boy in her grade it really means the world to me to hear stories like these so I can continue to learn about things I will never fully understand. You are a beautiful lolita 💕
I appreciate your willingness to listen and understand the perspectives of others 🥰
@@asamimoon5789 💕 on a sillier note I love the format of this video, I really felt like I was sitting and having tea with you. Such a cute idea!
You and your best friend look so cute together!
Also, on the subject of cultural appropriation- ugh, what annoys me about "cultural appropriation" is when people use that as a smoke screen to prevent someone of a different race to be included in that culture. It's like, do people not realize culture is chosen? Yes we're all born into a certain culture but we each have the capacity to accept and live that culture, or reject it and find another culture that suits us better. Telling a black lolita they are "culturally appropriating" fashion is just veiled racism.
(Cuz if that's true then the original asian lolitas are also culturally appropriating english victorian fashion, and no one seems to be mad about that)
Yea when someone called me a cultural appropriator I asked them “what if I was born and raised in Japan?” and they had no response.
Plus, There’s a difference between taking a casual thing that’s meant to be public and/or commercial, like j fashion, And ripping something with a specific or sacred meaning. Lolita brands literally sell overseas!
Dark skin tones and pastel colors are perfect together!! It’s just basic color theory! I wish there was more dark skinned Lolita and Kawaii representation in brands and modeling!!
Here here!
@@asamimoon5789 this was my first of your videos, I found the playlist through Lovely Lor, thanks for being awesome and sharing your story!!!
Listen. Colors POP on dark skin.
Ikr like wtf are these "dark skin sucks with pastel tones". dark skin is LITERALLY thr best canvas for light colors.
Can someone let me know who the racist Lolita is so that I can avoid / potentially unfollow?
I could be wrong here ( i dont know much about the community or where this girl lives) but just from the parent comment sounds like its could be that dutch venus girl. (The one thats famous for tryna look asian)
ughh i literally had to argue with someone ignorant before over them saying "if your not white you can't wear pastels, jfashion, lolita, etc" the argument ended with them saying it was just their "preference" and it rlly disgusted me, people can't choose their skin color and should be able to wear whatever they like without getting backlash :(
i'd really like a purple star pls ^-^
"If you're not white"? Did they... did they forget about Japan?
@@MirasaurusRex that is exactly what i said lmaoo
I recently became a pastel goth. I love pastels on dark skin.
Yes pastel goth! I love bright colors on dark skin, especially gold and pink 🤩
Girl.. when you said that someone has told you it’s not historically correct for you to be wearing that, and then proceeded to use the word “slave” in reference to how you should be dressed... my jaw SMACKED the floor honey. How you didn’t knock the absolute sh!t out of them baffles me. You’re way better than me because they would’ve left that conversation missing a tooth at the very least.
I'm sorry you dealt with so much negativity. Going back to the "historically accurate" debate, slavery ended in England *before* the Victorian era started. There were many wealthy Black people who wore the top fashions, my ancestors were among them. It's sad that people don't really know history or even fashion history. You look great!
NEVER in my life did I think "oh, Lolita fashion & subculture is ONLY for White/Asian Japanese women." (I'm white, but I lived in Japan in the early 2000's, when Lolita subculture was really taking off; LOVED going to Harajuku!) You go girl, you are so beautiful and downright cool!
I feel so underdressed watching this video in my comfy clothes lol. Your coords are always amazing. The assertion that there weren't black and brown people wearing fashion in any period of time is so absurd. There have been people of different races in every society wearing the fashion of the time.
Deeply side eyeing the people that are still friends with that ex-friend or just stayed silent while they were spilling that bs to you at your friends house??? That's some ridiculous shit right there wth
They actually cut the girl off around the same time that I did, once they knew all the things that I’d been experiencing
@@asamimoon5789 thank goodness I'm seriously glad to hear that 👏👏🌼
I wish knew more people like you when I was in middle school and high school, I'd wear some (this was in the early 2000s, there was no Amazon and my Mom didn't want to buy me 'this stuff') Lolita pieces and outfits and get teased so bad!! Videos like these are so important for kids/adults who like this style or any style outside the Black hip-hop stereotype. They get to watch other Black people living outside of monolith narrative that we can only be Black a certain way. We can be quirky, we can be feminine, we can be a girl boss, a Goth, a fairy, a Queen, hell you can still be a scene kid!
the "here you go love" as you handed us tea actually almost made me cry for some reason?? this whole vibe is absolutely amazing and i want to start doing lolita so bad but i have no money to start another expensive hobby....
You won me over when you poured us tea.
Yea that gal you were talking about about half way through, yeah she was being racist af. You did right thing to cut that toxicity out of your life.
I have no idea how I found your channel, but I am jealous. I love the Lolita style and honestly some of us white folks, such as myself, simply do not look good in most pastels. If you can pull off the colors, honey, wear them.
Btw:Totally checking out the rest of your videos.😉 I get teased because I am a mom of seven that absolutely adores kawaii, lolita, and most especially mori girl.
I am so angry on your behalf over these micro aggressions you have had to experience. You are a wonderful person and I am so glad that new poc lolitas have someone to go to.
9:40 "And racist aren't my cup of tea!" I cannot believe the sheer audacity that they had to make fun of you like that while you were THERE!!! If that was me, I would've been calling them out for it left and right. You definitely had more patience than me!!!
P.S. The lavender one is pretty!!!
"They see me as the little polka dot in the group." I know you're describing something really unfortunate, but that is the cutest way to describe it I've ever heard lol. I really appreciated hearing your prospective on this. I'm not lolita and don't know much about it, but you're making me want be just so I can be your friend and have tea parties with you! You are so adorable!!!!
My first exposure to Lolita was a girl in my hs who wore sweet lolita every single day. She was a few years below my grade but I remember her pretty clearly. She was also Black. I'm sure she got bullied for it, though I can't say by whom exactly. Every single time I saw her she was doing her thing, being cute, wearing pastel pink. Gatekeepers can die mad.
Honestly I never got the whole "pastel/light colours look bad on dark skin" because like... it's so dreamy and gorgeous? I don't know how to explain it but I love it so much and really anyone can wear anything they want. And if it makes them feel good? Go for it! I really just love this video and you're so beautiful~ I'll be sure to stick around!
Also, thanks for the tea~ ^^
You are COMPLETELY and INFINITELY correct. Black Lolita's are stunning in LITERALLY every style. Classic, gothic, sweet, ALL OF IT. These racist/ignorant/uninformed people are so caught up in their bland af monotone illustrations of pale lolitas and don't recognize the absolute beauty of melanin with lolita. Thank you for standing strong with your fashion and being so lovely!
Also I adore your video style. Thank you for pouring tea for the viewers that was so sweet!! Also your tea set is GORGEOUS is it an antique?
You poured us a cup of tea and stole my heart!
Good point!!!
When u handed the tea cup I felt so loved I swear
I have just started watching your content - you are such an inspiration!
One of my favorite people is a Black woman. What she told me so far is so damn scary, yet, I am grateful that she is opening up to me about it. Even in our so "open-minded" work-environment where we have to deal with international customers she is faced with racism - incl. by colleagues. She knows how to fight back better than anyone I know in such clever ways.
Also, I am part of the international vintage community with people loving 1920s-60s fashion and have heard in our community from our melanin members, that they´ve experienced similar shit as you did - certain colours do not suite them, not historically accurate and more ignorant or even harrassing comments. It makes me so angry, that people put others down. Why can we not just cheer for others and support them? Despite not wearing Lolita (anymore), I am cheering for everyone who found their passion and comfort with it. Fashion is meant to be played with. Who is in the position to tell anyone how to be happy or how to live the life of someone else? If a Muslim lolita is also a Hijabi - great! If a melanin lolita is wearing pastels - great! If a trans girl is wearing the biggest wigs and skirts - great! It´s about self-expression and comfort in your own skin.
Btw, in my opinion melanin skin looks amazing in any colour (and super pale me would look hideous in pastels, yellow...)
I'm not into Lolita style but I think it's fun to see other people wear it and enjoy themselves. I'm just here to support!
WHOEVER this person is, my head has never itched with so much anger! HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! LIKE WHO ASKED FOR YOUR OPINION?????? UGGGGHHH
(Also I like the purple! hehehe)
Thank you for that tea! I hope I never have to interact with that lolita. Hearing/reading the things certain people have to say makes me really wanna hit my head against a wall. I hope all lolitas of color know that there is a place for them in this community and that they are all beautiful!
P.s. I love the Silver star :)
My heart literally melted when you handed the tea cup to the camera istkgkshtbfkaj
Also I full on cringed at hearing that someone actually said "you're not historically accurate, you should wear this style because it looks more like slave clothes" LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK?!
Clearly that racist girl was bothered by black Lolitas because she's intimidated by their confidence. It's so sad that she put so much effort into putting someone down that didn't "look right in Lolita". That doesn't add up. You, along with all those black Lolitas you posted look beautiful. I am not a Lolita nor do I participate in alternative fashion, but I admire you guys. You are super kind and strong.
this felt like sitting down with a friend and just having a good conversation :)
Youu slaay! I am a latina girl and I really strugled to find someone not white as a wall wearing lolita style... (I'm not racist, just I really love Lolita fashion but I felt soo o insecure to wear it because I am not white)
Thank you for be yourself!! 💓🌺🌸
Love alt poc(especially darksin women) who aren't afraid to do things that would be considered "white" in the black community,it rlly inspires me more to hopefully get a style that I want without being scared of what others think.
You served me tea?!?!?? 💌💌💌 First time here!!! 🥰Was not expecting that. Thank you kween🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍
It's so important to normalize speaking up when others have mistreated you. I really appreciate the vulnerability you shared with your viewers in this video.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It is disheartening that lolita fashion, for all the joy it brings and the community spirit it can foster, is still but a microcosmos of the mainstream society, meaning that it's not immune from racists, bigots and genuinely terrible people. I'm happy that that racist person you cut out of your life is no longer affecting you and I hope that if they are still part of the lolita community, that someone else is calling them out on their bs. Because it is not acceptable and no community should tolerate that kind of behaviour from anyone.
I literately screamed when you shared that people have said that you were "historically incorrect" and mentioned you should wear classic because it is closer to slave clothing! Firstly, what makes that an acceptable thing to say?! Secondly, their argument doesn't hold water since, like you mentioned, the other Lolitas present were also not historically accurate. I am so glad that you cut ties with that racist Lolita and I am happy others have put her in her place as well. I freaking HATE the "you're not Black-Black" or "but your different" argument. My blood boiled during your stories but I am so happy that you shared them. You are phenomenal and the fact that people can connect with you as a mentor is incredible!
As a side note I love the way you shot this video. I felt like I was there in person drinking tea ; c ;
I love the purple hair clip. I am so delighted that we started wearing lolita at around the same time and we're both thicc lolitas. I feel so connected to u. I have recently thought about making some lolita/kawaii fashion content on my you tube channel in order to have more reach and help other people like me or just people in general who want to get into the fashion. and I love your wardrobe. I hope mine will look like that one day. I've slowly been getting rid of a lot of my "normie" cloths I dont wear and replacing them with loloia/kawaii fashion. I cant wait til the day comes when I look at my wardrobe and love every single piece in it.
Building my wardrobe to where I loved every single item took years but I’m finally there! Take things slow and don’t be afraid to pass up some pieces to find ones that you REALLY like.
TLDR: lolita's not accurate it's inspired, and there were absolutely historical and fashionable black women.
Historically accurate isn't something I would call lolita in general. HOWEVER, there were, in fact, Blacks in distinguished and well-paying careers in pre-civil war America. They weren't treated with the same respect as their white peers but they did wear the same styles of clothing.
We just don't talk about them because talking about it would on a surface level muddy the issue of racism during the slavery period making it look more targeted towards slaves rather than Blacks.
But as I said at the beginning lolita isn't strictly accurate to history, to begin with, it's much closer to an idealized history or fantasy than actual history (as most Historical Asian things about the western world are).
Pics here (www.nps.gov/articles/african-american-women-and-the-nineteenth-amendment.htm)
Thanks for sharing!
I LITERALLY AM SEEING RED listening to you telling the story of that one person... Who do they think they are?! *SCREAMS* I got so angry listening to your experiences, it breaks my heart but to see you leaving them in the dirt where they belong is exactly what is right. You are so above them! Keep being your absolutely perfect and incredibly stylish self. You are so beautiful and anyone who has the GALL to make such derogatory comments against you is not worthy of anything. You are worthy of it all!
"brew a cup of tea with their tears" YASSSSSS
And make it hot! ☕️
The tea in your experiences!!! I wish I knew who this person was so i could make sure to avoid them. Hopefully recent events will have opened their minds to changing their behaviors. But I'm glad you spoke out about it!! Awesome video!!!
i legit almost cried when you handed me that cup of tea omg i love you
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Thank you for educating your audience, and love the video! Your personality is beautiful 🥳
:) I hope you enjoyed it
The idea that you're criticised for being "not historical accurate" for wearing lolita. OBVIOUSLY. LOLITA ISNT BOUND BY HISTORICALLY ACCURACY. They're just mad because they have an idea of what a black person "should" look like and you don't fit it.
When she talked about ppl telling her that shes not historically accurate and should dress like a slave, my mouth dropped! Wat the fuck is wrong with people, holy shit! :O
Beautiful channel! Just found it thru this vid, her lolita style is so pretty!
I'm a black goth that just got into lolita and BABYYYYYYYYY I love sweet and can't imagine wearing gothic or classic I LOVE the way it looks 😍 but on me its just....meh
I love seeing black lolitas in mint and pink thank you SO much for this video (I know I'm late af)
i appreciate you giving your experiences on being a black lolita! i’m only recently starting my sweet lolita journey and i love to hear from other kawaii black girls about how they have navigated the fashion!
I'm so thankful to the youtube algorithm for letting me discover you! The instant you handed over that tea, I knew I'd found a new lolita ytuber to follow!~ Thank you for sharing your experiences to help educate others and let them have a glimpse into how it is as a black girl in alt fashion, despite how it must hurt to think about these things again. And also, thank you for making me crave tea, haha!
“This **** is racist! *sips tea*” lmaoooo
Wasn’t even looking for Lolita content, but your first 40 seconds made me a subscriber.
Your videos popped up in my recommendations... for once UA-cam is showing me what I want to see!! 😍😍😍 Happy Juneteenth, sis!
Ayyyeeeee Happy Juneteenth! ❤️
the claims of "historical inaccuracy" are unfounded, it's been shown that any person in the time periods were generally wearing the same thing with different materials that they could obtain with their salary, this extends to slaves and other POC of any era. (bernadette banner uploaded a talk done by americanduchess and notyomommashistory about historical hair and makeup and somewhat historical dress, and i implore all of you to watch the talk, it's amazing)
I giggled every time you served us a cup.
THAT TEA WAS PIPPING HOT MADAM!
Thank you for this video, I had no idea about this perspective/experience which black persons may face while dressing alternatively/ specifically Lolita.
I’m totally subscribing!
Also, I think it’s awesome you stood up to that unnamed ignorant (racist) person, fashion is not exclusive and everyone has the right to express themselves!
(And my god, how can people gatekeep alternative fashion?! Historically accurate smh that’s such a blatant racist remark. People should be celebrating that everyone can dress however the hell they want.)
She served tea for us?!?!?!?
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What is wrong with people?! I cant believe someone would say things like that to you! Everything she said to you was terrible but that "ppl with dark skin dont look human" comment really got to me! Thanks for sharing your experience... it's really eye opening... I'm so sorry you've had to experience things like that. Like I know there are a ton of racist ppl out there, but to say such blatantly racist things to you while trying to act like it's not directed at you because "you're not black black" is just insane.
Imagine seeing someone happy doing something harmless like wear clothes they love and you have to say "Hey, you can't do that! You're the wrong color!"
I do have a question for lolitas of color out there: Do men treat you extra creepy or fetishy if they see you in your cords? It's way more noticeable with white dudes, but I've had men of all colors see me, a Native American gal, in alternative fashion and think that means I'm somehow super kinky because I'm not running around with a feather in my hair or some crap. For reference, I usually dress like it's the 90's and grunge is still a thing.
This was so helpful I had no clue there was a lolita community in the DMV! It makes me feel way more comfortable about joining the lolita community!
This video was so amazing, thank you for this! As a long time lolita (12 years in the NYC community) I've experienced a smattering here and there of bad racial experiences, but I've noticed way less because I'm lighter skinned and thin, but my friends who are darker skinned and or plus sized get treated differently by other lolitas and normies. These layers of marginalization are infuriating to me. It's so important to me to uplift and support other Black lolitas of all shades and sizes 💕 even as another Black lolita.
The historical inaccuracy comment was probably the most upsetting because like other people commented, lolita is not meant to be historically accurate and 2, there were black people in the Victorian era who were not slaves and were actually affluent and wore clothing like this....like wtf! So ignorant....😡
Anyway you are amazing and an inspiration so thank you for sharing your story 💕💕💕🙏🏽
*offering tea to the camera* "here you go love". Too precious, you're way too cute!
Black people DID wear stuff like that back then. There are photos of black families in full victorian garb at the beach.
Great video! It's really shitty that you have had to deal with all that racism and horrible comments as a black lolita. Great job of you speaking about it! And I'm really glad to hear you got rid of that person from your life. Also really like the longer video! Hope you have a good day ⭐✨
I'm so sorry you experienced such injustice. The overt ones in friend groups are very jarring. Sometimes it's the subtle ones they want to get away with like making you put your own bag away that get under my skin. I have a close friend who is black and am Asian myself
My first time to the Tea party. Thank you for all the cups of tea and the commentary was super insightful. I am sorry you have to go through so much shade just to wear the clothes you like. I am 30 and dress like Christopher Robin meets a clown and that makes me happy.
You do you girl. Subscribed ❤
I have been a fan of Lolita fashion for over a decade but I’ve always been afraid to jump in the community because of my size. I remember back in the day when there weren’t as many resources as there are now and the Lolita comms in livejournal were pretty vicious so I just kept admiring it from afar. Even now as we’re seeing more and more diverse faces and bodies in kawaii fashion I still get shy.
I’m currently in a maid cafe and i feel really comfortable when I’m “in character” as a maid and with my sisters in maid uniform, but I’ve yet to feel that level of confidence in casual kawaii clothing 😅 two of my cafe sisters just bought their first Lolita dream dresses and now I’m like “BITCH ME TOO!” So now I’m on the hunt for my own dream dress. I just wanna make one coord... just one and I’ll feel fulfilled lol.
Btw I just subscribed and I’m loving your content 💕I’m also from the dmv and I’m glad I discovered your channel 😊
This is the first video I've seen of you, I'm not even a minute in and the fact you offered me a cup of tea and called me love is enough to subscribe instantly.
Love your set up ^_^ thank you for the tea.
People never understand Lolita fashion, whenever I would wear dolly outfits people would always think it’s a kink. I feel like because of those comments I’ve made my “outfits” more normie but when I’m home I’ll change outfits to what I like. That’s so sad and disrespectful that people think you are trying to adopt another cutler or race. I love your fashion, so ornate and lovely.
Okay ngl I started tearing up because growing up I didn't really care about my skin color until puberty hit and it all went to shit and insecurities started hitting
It didn't matter the style or occasion that I'm wearing what I want for but I have a really polar reaction to dressing up
I wasn't a very "dark" Mexican or a sterotypical brown Mexican but I would never pass as a white person if put in a line up.
So it never felt right to try things because all I saw was a specific skin tones in the style and I felt that I would step on people's toes EVEN wearing clothes from my race made me feel like a fraud
I love Lolita but I still feel like it's not for me even when I see all you lovely lolita's just FUCKIN ROCKIN IT
So hearing you say it's okay to wear the clothes that looks cute on me makes me so happy and makes me want to really really try it.
Thank you thank you and I really love the blue star for the give away if it's not to late 🥺👉👈
Hello there! So as weird as this may sound, I'm not into wearing Lolita fashion (though it's lovely) but I've recently developed an affinity for videos of people who are. I find it immensely refreshing to watch some Lolitas' videos because they have such thoughtful and wise perspectives on unabashedly being who they are and expressing themselves exactly how they see fit. I suppose that as a lesbian who came of age in the early 2000s when things were way less tolerant, I relate in my own way to sticking out and getting comfortable in my own skin against some rotten people's wishes. You are most definitely one of these people who exudes wisdom and confidence and your insight into being a Lolita of color is enlightening (albeit infuriating at times when the comments thrown your way are astoundingly ignorant). Anyway, I really enjoy your videos and look forward to more. Thanks for the tea! :-)
I loved the way you made this a little chit chat. You have some wild stories but I’m happy you didn’t let that discourage you from being in the fashion. You’re such an inspiration and I’m so happy for you and the growth on your channel. Thanks for the cup of tea 💗
The level of immaturity of racist people is disgusting. I was so repulsed to hear all the terrible things you experienced. You are amazing and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. 💕💕