Yeah I want to have better wi-Fi too without the cable because my Internet provider said that it would be impossible to put the router/modem in my room I get around 30 ping but I know it can be better
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Could be, but it also covers their ass if you hotplug the cable and something goes wrong. Since they put it in the manual you can't assert that they didn't tell you.
Fuck alcohol that's just going to fuck up your livers I drink once every year for my birthday and sometimes Christmas I don't drink to get drunk that's fucking stupid ass people that do that and end up in jail for it LOL cuz I never been locked up in my life all facts obey the law I'll go to fucking jail
@@juliofrancisco8111 I fucking read the manual when I had it it doesn't fucking matter jackass it's everybody's opinion versus your dumbass opinion if you want to know more about the console you got to read the fucking manual moron
I have learnt from bad experience, having working in a lab for many years we would occasionally move equipment or change monitors around. We decided to upgrade an instrument with a top of the range monitor and connected everything hot. The graphics board on the instrument failed immediately, to repair it was a 4 figure sum, so it can happen.
The biggest issue was in HDMI 1.1 and lower. HDMI does a HDCP handshake to "authenticate" so ensure the connection is secure. This is largely not an issue anymore and in practice, blowing out a cable/device by hot swapping HDMI is so minute, that it's negligible.
I know i'm a year late but thats not the reason at all, you are talking about a transfer protocol that is already ongoing as soon as the physical connection is estabilished. The reason is simply because whenever you shut down the power supply you are 100% sure of NOT shortcircuiting by anything like a broken, corroded or bad HDMI connector (either side, PS or cable). Thats about it, Sony just wants to be sure and does not take any risk.
I've definitely seen 'arching' (a visible spark/stream of electricity jumping between elements) when plugging hdmi cables in and out of a hdmi muti switch. The switch is powered, so it's possible it's down to the quality of the switch, but yeah there's power in them there cables!
Who would really be a fool to disconnect their system while its turned on? Doesn't matter how u disconnect the system when its off and my Ps4 pro runs just fine like brand new for 2+ years now
I use all my manuals for filters when I roll joints. I smoked a lotta good manuals in my time. Especially the one for my coffee machine. Great paper. Just the right thickness
I'd also recommend using a surge protector with a battery backup for both the console and TV. This gives you time to save game progress and shut down your system properly in the event of a power outage avoiding data loss.
This is pretty standard practice for most electrical equipment. Any plugging or unplugging of cables, including speakers, hdmi, scart, rc, should always be done with the appliance not just off, but unplugged.
If you have grounding problems (round pin on 3 pins wall sockets not making contact, for example) the noise suppession circuit inside the monitor may charge the monitor chassis with voltages up to 100v which will surely spark inside the HDMI socket at the connection time. The potential for damage is greater than what you realize. By doing as instructed on the manual even if a voltage leak exists there won't be any sparking as both the monitor and the PS4 will be at the same electrical potential level during all times.
I have not read the instruction manual for any of my video game systems or the TV. When I was setting up my Samsung 4K smart TV (which utilizes it's smart remote to control HDMI devices) I did shock myself a few times while connecting an HDMI switch capable of the highest quality 4K. The HDMI switch was powered off and the surge protector for the video game systems was also off, but the TV was plugged in and powered off. The shocks were strong enough that I only let it happen twice before going to the surge protector for the TV and turning it off. HDMI cables are hot swappable but with the more advanced TVs there is quite a bit of power flowing through them and you should use caution. I personally will not touch these HDMI cables again unless all power is turned off, it was not a low enough power shock that I would risk shocking myself again.
MANY electronic devices tell you to never connect or disconnect cables while the device is turned on. Some are more valid than others, for example, PC PS/2 keyboard and mouse are initialised on power up, so aren't detected if you plug them in while it is running. I have seen exceptions to this, such as on laptops, but it's not so much a problem with modern computers that use USB instead. Chance of issues is low, but I have actually seen hardware damage from hot plugging cables. Never with a HDMI cable, but you can't rule out the possibility.
The first model PS4 experienced a not insignificant number of hdmi port faults. The port and circuitry was adjusted with the next model going forward, but there is always a small possibility of static charge/arc when plugging/unplugging hdmi into a powered port. Sony is just removing even the small chance of covering the failure.
The reason why in google that Hdmi cables are hot swapable its simply because it has a display when you hot swap it (no need to restart), that is the only reason why it was hot swapable but the risk of damage is still there.
This actually happened to me so when I would be playing there would be random lines and tears in my screen till later i figured out that either the hdmi cable went bad or the hdmi port was bad.
Due to where one lives and depending on various electrical codes, some times there are what's referred to as spikes. When connecting a live wire to something. Such spikes can burn out compents. Thus plug in various electrical live connection regardless of what the device is can be destrutive. Meaning replacing the device which cost the company selling the device money. Putting the instruction in the paper work, informing one NOT to do it is a work around to avoid having the company replace the device when one doesn't read the warning or just does it anyway.
It happened to me . I kept disconecting hdmi all the time to move to different monitors. It happened on my og ps4. Thanks for all the videos , they are very helpful.
This is a general rule of thumb for any electronic device that connects to a power outlet and has additional connections. ALWAYS disconnect power first before disconnecting anything else, and always connect power last after you've connected everything else. It's not a hidden "trick" or some weird technology, it's electricity 101.
It’s true, I asked my sister to unhook it for me for some reason I think we were gonna play on the big screen and when she unplugged the hdmi it sparked and it fried the cord
@@Ffafggefvfdddhef haha probably higher than. 1% but it seem pretty rare. I've been unplugging HDMI while the device is on since the Xbox 360/PS3 days and never had that happen
This actually applies to basically all electronics no matter the type of wired connection. ALWAYS make sure your all devices are shut off before connecting/disconnecting one device to another. The majority of manuals for electronics will state something similar to what you're bringing to light in this video. Many people do not know this when it should be known! For safety reasons and also the best way to ensure the easiest process for setting anything up. Especially for Bluetooth anything lol, mainly speakers or remotes. It will allow BT home theater systems (or speaker system) to work in sync with your TV when you press the power button on whichever remote you choose to mainly use. I worked tech support and am a techie at home also lol. Hope this helps!! I know setting up various different devices can get very frustrating for most families!!! Who likes reading manual word for word anyway 😛
It makes sense from a certain viewpoint. I saw a video about an Xbox owner who’s system was fried by an HDMI surge. It’s rare I guess but still possible.
I have the first gen PS4 for almost 7 years and I have never heard that thing. All this time I’ve been doing this wrong and I didn’t have a problem. But now that I got a ps5 I will have that in mind so there is absolutely no chance of damaging this baby. THX FOR THE ADVICE DUDE !!!!!!!!!
It's not minimal. Every time you make an electrical connection there is An arc. The electricity arcs from one post to another right before they touch.. this causes burn spots and surface issues. Leading to connectivity issues.
Hdmi cables are not break before make so as there are voltages over 5v on multiple pins it makes sense not to bugger about when plugged in, but I've never had issues.
I don't know if I'm wrong (very probably I am), but I think it makes sense. I have a Samsung smart TV and when I turn on the TV, the PS4 turns on instantly, without pressing anything. Same as if I turn on the PS4 first, the TV turns on instantly as well. Even though the Ps4 in off, it might have some functions waiting to be activated. I guess it's somehow related to why it would potentially damage it if you unplug it from the HDMI before the power source. If you unplug it from the power source first, those other functions just stop being there and there will be no issue when you unplug the HDMI. I guess, but I am likely to be wrong haha.
As an electrician, we call this potential difference. If one device is grounded and the other one isn't, with the cheap electronics we have nowadays there can be a slight voltage feeding through the chassis of the ungrounded device (especially if something is wrong with it). The ground can travel over the hdmi and either shock you or damage equipment.
I'm surprised some people don't know this, it's always been a rule of thumb to never connect/disconnect without removing the power first. It's like that for every device.
when I worked at the cable company years ago it was the same you hook everything up first before plugging into a outlet anyway that's how it has to be written it protects the seller sony if the buyer gets shocked or if something happens so the correct way is in the manual
I've been hotswapping for a while so my sons can play together on our PS4s. My system is hooked up to the same TV I use for my PC, but I have a second screen I usually use for audio and video editing. I just hot swap the HDMI over to that from my HDMI splitter into a cable with a female/female HDMI adapter. I can also join in with them in Cross platform games, which is nice. Apart from Minecraft, Microsoft has a problem with my account at the moment!
Technically HDMI is hot-swap, but a bad ground on you home wiring could do a big shock if you plug anything, that is the reason to connect power at end when your device share a physical ground to be safe.
this is the method used to setup for moving the system to a different tv, it as to be connected to hdmi before power so it can set to correct resolution automatically without having to go into settings.
There is power going through an HDMI cable. I currently have an HDMI splitter connected to my pc. Normally, it's suppose to get power from a micro-USB port, but the HDMI cable plugged in to my pc is enough to power it. So, if there's enough power going through it to power something, that means there is the potential for shorting.
When I turn on my ps4 sometimes my tv doesn't show the ps4 screen and it says nothing is connected Another case which happens rarely to me (once 2 weeks or so) is that when i turn on my ps4 some weird lights show up in green mostly And another case is that i turn on my ps4 and i just have a black screen. I can still hear sound tho These don't happen always just sometimes I have a ps4 pro cuh 7116b Any explanation?
I remember the dealer of our first flat screen TV telling us, he needed to have his DVD-player fixed (reflashed in factory) because he unplugged the HDMI while both systems had power. But that is >15 years ago with the one of the earliest examples of a HDMI port on a DVD player that ever was. I have never heard of something similar again.
I think it is pretty standard in electronics...this information is how I was taught for all electrical appliances....you make the source connection last when hooking equipment up, and you disconnect the source first when disassembling. For an HDMI cable, you would be assuring you are not creating additional currents by connecting and disconnecting properly.
A general good rule of thumb is to connect and disconnect sensitive electronic gear in order of power flow before switching on or off. You can get away with abusing the rule quite often but the possibility of damage to tiny components on the pcb is always there. Little spikes will slowly chip away at those components if you break the rule. Better still would be to leave everything connected and simply use individual on/off power switches for each unit.....hey presto !
I Feel it’s more about the connection to your TV or monitor that uses the hdmi1 or arc port that make your tv turn on when the PlayStation and also the cec control to allow the tv remote to control some of the direction controls for like apps and such for convenience. I personally don’t like this feature so I don’t allow it. But, properly powering down your consul and tv/monitor before disconnecting is always a safe practice in my opinion.
My brother pulled out his HDMI one time, we can assume he didn’t unplug or even turn off console cause he was younger then he his now, but the HDMI itself came apart. The metal outer Trapezoid or whatever was stuck in the TV HDMI port and that cord was clearly ruined. We assumed the cord was cheap. Still unsure. But this does help me out in the long run, thank ❤️
they are probably concerned that if a ground potential fault existed between the two devices existed that you could damage the HDMI encoder IC chip in the ps4.. the ps4 pro does not have a ground pin on its power supply cable ,I also strongly suggest you disconnect power to your whole device stack when thunder storms are in your area. even if you have a surge protector
Some tvs turn on when you turn on your Playstation. That means there is a current going through it to signal the TV that the Playstation is on. There is an option in PS settings that turns this feature on or off.
I did fry the HDMI port of my PS3 Fat 80GB years ago by hot-plugging it. Luckily the rest of the console was just fine, I had to use the component (not composite) cables to get an HD output until some years later I sent it to an electronics workshop to finally fix the HDMI issue.
Had my ps4 since launch. Ive plugged and unplugged the hdmi numerous times while the machine still had power. Dont really understand how plugging or unplugging a peripheral cable would fry the machine. To that end, wouldn't a power outage brick your machine?
I've had an experience with a 3rd party HDMI cable spark slightly when I was about to hotswap it from my laptop to the PS3 back in the day. It only ever happened with that particular cable, so I think it's worth keeping in mind. Nevertheless, it didn't fry anything and I was surprised more than anything else.
The PS4 does not have an earthed power supply, so once you plug it in, it will be floating at some potential between rectified mains and neutral (depending on where you are that will be anywhere up to 400-something volt, but with very little actual current capacity, so the worst you'll experience from that it a slight zap; pretty much every not-earthed switchmode power supply will do that). Your TV on the other hand will likely be earthed via an antenna cable or possibly through other attached devices. If you plug in the PS4 and then attach the HDMI cable, there will be a tiny current surge from the PS4's PSU through the TV to antenna ground that can potentially break something. It's the same issue with any other device with a 2-pin mains plug, and from what I've heard North America has a bad relationship to proper electrical installations anyway (FFS get a proper plug standardised!), so even ostensibly earthed appliances might not be.
this has nothing to do with HDMI properties, but is just a good general rule. connect everything you have involved, then connect it to the hot voltage. these machines store charge, a lot, and are kind of lowest-bidder sort of parts. like you said, VERY low chance of this happening, but I have seen an PS4 HDMI encoding chip fail on a system that gets unplugged very frequently. who knows?
They are not wrong! While rearranging my media cabinet to test if all consoles where correctly connected to the correct port numbers I've got swapped my hdmi cable on my (old) xbox 360 and since then the hdcp is broken. At first I thought its because of the new configuration thus I've removed the xbox from the new configuration and reconnected it to my old tv and and previous cables, but unfortunately the same error occurred on the old setup... I think I swapped the cables whilst the xbox was powered on (not intentionally, the power button was where I had good grip)... Just a fair warning problems can occur ...
I once fried the main board of my Onkyo AV receiver by hot plugging a cheap crappy TV into it! My friend had just got the TV and we were testing and comparing it. I kept switching everything off while plugging and unplugging and he asked me why, reminding me that HDMI is hot pluggable. I knew that, but having worked many years in IT, I was just being cautious - possibly over cautious. So I decided to lighten up and just hot plug it. To our shock and disbelief, the receiver immediately died! It was still under warranty so I took it back. When I collected it they told me the whole board had died and had been replaced. I asked them about the hot plugging causing such damage. They said, it's uncommon, but it is possible. I've just never felt the same about hot plugging HDMI since then.
I don't know how this is a problem on the PS, but on the desktop/mini macs, you have to have a display connected and recognized, otherwise it will not post past the bios. you might need an EDID spoofer if you connect a mac to a TV that turns off the HDMI if you want to use the macs without a display connected.
HDMI is hotplugable only if both devices are referenced to earth ground (aka ps4 and tv) if they are not there's a potential for high voltage difference on hdmi connector shield, that can discharge into data pins, it's a pretty common to see devices with blow hdmi ports because of it if you work in servicing. Also RCA have the same problem, as well as mains powered usb devices like printers.
It is standard practice to attach the power cable last, whatever the application. The risk of arcs, surges, and shorts is always there if you attach connector cables between any powered devices.
About 10 years ago I was working at an electronic store. An employee was hooking up a Xbox 360 via hdmi to an overhead projector. Needless to say that the cable was hot when connecting. The entire room was engulfed in a white and blue light. The hdmi port was fried on the Xbox. The cable was toast, but the projector survived without a scratch.
I know this comment is late, but I had 3 hdmi ports stop working on an older lcd flatscreen (Sony brand), but I was also using PlayStation VR. It may also be partly related to this with all the power/data going through the VR components.
Happened to my Marantz sr6001 surround receiver.... That was a expensive mistake 😞. I recommend turning off power for every device before plugging in out hdmi. Annoying thing is it happened 2 times. The first time one hdmi port gone after repair boom the entire hdmi board.... I later found out that my old tv was the problem, it didn't like the hdmi hot swap causing short and somehow killing other stuff and never itself.
Simply for static shock ,i.e. Rubbing your feet on the carpet you can also blow a pixel on your tv simply by touchin g the screen, which is why you should power down and completely unplug the tv before cleaning the screen
Here where houses are not grounded properly, every time I would try and plug in the HDMI hot, the outer metal casing would actually sparc against the TV socket as the cable carries voltage .. needless to say, I do power shit down now if I need to mess about with HDMI cables.
I don’t unplug the wire that connects the device to the surge protector while it’s on but I do sometimes remove the hdmi from the tv while the PlayStation is still on
My HDMI cable stopped working all of a sudden, and I think it’s because I didn’t follow the user manual you were just talking about. I’m not worried though I can buy another cable no problem but thank you!
LOL I've always connected power last on electronics. I don't even remember why I started doing it, it's just always what I've done ever since I was a kid in the early to mid 80's. It's actually much easier nowadays since I can just turn off the surge protector, connect or disconnect all the cables, then switch the surge protector back on.
The PS4 is still doing things whenever it’s off and plugged in. I know this because my OG PS4 makes a very faint clicking noise whenever it’s off but plugged in. Normally, I remove the power plug to stop the clicking but any electrical power like static electricity (capacitors) can cause damage to components which when working on electronics we’re supposed to use a ground strap. Connecting anything (like HDMI) can possibly cause damage so the less electricity inside the PS4, the better.
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How to have better WiFi without the the wifi cable.
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John Glasscock any tips on how to make my ps4 pro not sound like a jet when I’m playing cod modern warfare 🤣
Yeah I want to have better wi-Fi too without the cable because my Internet provider said that it would be impossible to put the router/modem in my room I get around 30 ping but I know it can be better
50 tips and tricks for the ps4
@@wendelldietsch0 you need to clean all the dust out of it.
He's reading the user manual so we don't have to. What an amazing guy.
Someone's gotta do it 🤷♂️
@@JohnGlasscock 👑 you dropped this
5 years after release and few month before next gen. Thanks... I guess
@@jfry3276 gunna be 7 years since release....
More a complete idiot...
Moment of silent for those 1% that actually happens to get destroyed HDMI.
That happened to my ps4 pro, but I had done bought a ps5 when it happened so it wasn’t so bad, I got it fixed though a couple weeks ago
Thank you, It was actually the monitor HDMI port that fried for me.
F lol i do it all the time when i wanna watch a film from laptop
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Bruh I got a dead hdmi on my ps4 slim 4 years ago 😂😂😂 now the whole console is dead 😪
When you're so bored during quarantine you start reading all your instruction manuals lol
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@@xMangoGoated yep
@Agent_47 T I'm watching this as I'm sitting on the toilet
What a awesome comment lol
Me realizing I've done this hundreds of times with nothing happening.
same
Me realizing that I was doing this without reading PS manual 🧐
Yup
I can vouch for that too.
the chance is low but never zero
I think I’m now on Sony’s hit list for trying this out
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@pro duder man f2h i just typed A random phrase and it was a joke btw
I already fried my ps4 doing it and had to get a new one soooo
it's a way to catch console owners in a technicality and void warranty...
I thought same thing...
I also thought so, but for the sake of argument how would they prove that you connected it the wrong way
Could be, but it also covers their ass if you hotplug the cable and something goes wrong. Since they put it in the manual you can't assert that they didn't tell you.
The fact that he read that damn manual shows dedication! Can we buy this man a virtual drink?
No I already paying my phone bill so that's enough. Pls this is nonsense like for real who the fuck reads the manual. We just plug it in and play.
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Fuck alcohol that's just going to fuck up your livers I drink once every year for my birthday and sometimes Christmas I don't drink to get drunk that's fucking stupid ass people that do that and end up in jail for it LOL cuz I never been locked up in my life all facts obey the law I'll go to fucking jail
@@juliofrancisco8111 I fucking read the manual when I had it it doesn't fucking matter jackass it's everybody's opinion versus your dumbass opinion if you want to know more about the console you got to read the fucking manual moron
@@juliofrancisco8111 since you didn't read it you going to wish you didn't
I have learnt from bad experience, having working in a lab for many years we would occasionally move equipment or change monitors around. We decided to upgrade an instrument with a top of the range monitor and connected everything hot. The graphics board on the instrument failed immediately, to repair it was a 4 figure sum, so it can happen.
The biggest issue was in HDMI 1.1 and lower. HDMI does a HDCP handshake to "authenticate" so ensure the connection is secure. This is largely not an issue anymore and in practice, blowing out a cable/device by hot swapping HDMI is so minute, that it's negligible.
I know i'm a year late but thats not the reason at all, you are talking about a transfer protocol that is already ongoing as soon as the physical connection is estabilished. The reason is simply because whenever you shut down the power supply you are 100% sure of NOT shortcircuiting by anything like a broken, corroded or bad HDMI connector (either side, PS or cable). Thats about it, Sony just wants to be sure and does not take any risk.
I've definitely seen 'arching' (a visible spark/stream of electricity jumping between elements) when plugging hdmi cables in and out of a hdmi muti switch.
The switch is powered, so it's possible it's down to the quality of the switch, but yeah there's power in them there cables!
Yeah, that's definitely the cheap switch.
My laptop charger bites. So laptop parts bite me too when touching them
Who would really be a fool to disconnect their system while its turned on? Doesn't matter how u disconnect the system when its off and my Ps4 pro runs just fine like brand new for 2+ years now
I have watched people do this frequently in the electronics industry, Destroys the device and/or electrocuted the individual.
If your power goes off
Children does it all the time, because they did not buy it with their own money
@Robert Csapo I've had a shock from an HDMI lead before
@Robert Csapo Carpet and touched the ground by accident whilst it was plugged in to a running box.
I use all my manuals for filters when I roll joints. I smoked a lotta good manuals in my time. Especially the one for my coffee machine. Great paper. Just the right thickness
This is how you get a semi-rogue golem that won't listen to you...
Yes, you can burn out the HDMI cable by leaving on console when removing it.
worken360 yea... that’s literally what this whole video is about. Lol
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There’s also a chance you could ground yourself on the hdmi cable and get shocked but it’s so rare that ever happens
I'd also recommend using a surge protector with a battery backup for both the console and TV. This gives you time to save game progress and shut down your system properly in the event of a power outage avoiding data loss.
This is pretty standard practice for most electrical equipment. Any plugging or unplugging of cables, including speakers, hdmi, scart, rc, should always be done with the appliance not just off, but unplugged.
If you have grounding problems (round pin on 3 pins wall sockets not making contact, for example) the noise suppession circuit inside the monitor may charge the monitor chassis with voltages up to 100v which will surely spark inside the HDMI socket at the connection time. The potential for damage is greater than what you realize. By doing as instructed on the manual even if a voltage leak exists there won't be any sparking as both the monitor and the PS4 will be at the same electrical potential level during all times.
I always do it this way anyways.
You're doing it right then
He's been doing right? This is the norm decade s ago 😂
I have not read the instruction manual for any of my video game systems or the TV. When I was setting up my Samsung 4K smart TV (which utilizes it's smart remote to control HDMI devices) I did shock myself a few times while connecting an HDMI switch capable of the highest quality 4K. The HDMI switch was powered off and the surge protector for the video game systems was also off, but the TV was plugged in and powered off. The shocks were strong enough that I only let it happen twice before going to the surge protector for the TV and turning it off. HDMI cables are hot swappable but with the more advanced TVs there is quite a bit of power flowing through them and you should use caution. I personally will not touch these HDMI cables again unless all power is turned off, it was not a low enough power shock that I would risk shocking myself again.
MANY electronic devices tell you to never connect or disconnect cables while the device is turned on.
Some are more valid than others, for example, PC PS/2 keyboard and mouse are initialised on power up, so aren't detected if you plug them in while it is running. I have seen exceptions to this, such as on laptops, but it's not so much a problem with modern computers that use USB instead.
Chance of issues is low, but I have actually seen hardware damage from hot plugging cables.
Never with a HDMI cable, but you can't rule out the possibility.
The first model PS4 experienced a not insignificant number of hdmi port faults. The port and circuitry was adjusted with the next model going forward, but there is always a small possibility of static charge/arc when plugging/unplugging hdmi into a powered port.
Sony is just removing even the small chance of covering the failure.
The reason why in google that Hdmi cables are hot swapable its simply because it has a display when you hot swap it (no need to restart), that is the only reason why it was hot swapable but the risk of damage is still there.
This actually happened to me so when I would be playing there would be random lines and tears in my screen till later i figured out that either the hdmi cable went bad or the hdmi port was bad.
Due to where one lives and depending on various electrical codes, some times there are what's referred to as spikes. When connecting a live wire to something. Such spikes can burn out compents. Thus plug in various electrical live connection regardless of what the device is can be destrutive. Meaning replacing the device which cost the company selling the device money. Putting the instruction in the paper work, informing one NOT to do it is a work around to avoid having the company replace the device when one doesn't read the warning or just does it anyway.
Good job as always legendary!!! ❤️
Deen there done that. You're not alone, we are here with you.
It happened to me . I kept disconecting hdmi all the time to move to different monitors. It happened on my og ps4. Thanks for all the videos , they are very helpful.
This is a general rule of thumb for any electronic device that connects to a power outlet and has additional connections. ALWAYS disconnect power first before disconnecting anything else, and always connect power last after you've connected everything else. It's not a hidden "trick" or some weird technology, it's electricity 101.
It’s true, I asked my sister to unhook it for me for some reason I think we were gonna play on the big screen and when she unplugged the hdmi it sparked and it fried the cord
Dang
TheMagnificentOrange yea good thing it didn’t damage my ps3
Interesting, how's it feel being that 1% chance of it happening?
Chris Gunter wow is it really 1%? Should’ve played the lottery
@@Ffafggefvfdddhef haha probably higher than. 1% but it seem pretty rare. I've been unplugging HDMI while the device is on since the Xbox 360/PS3 days and never had that happen
This actually applies to basically all electronics no matter the type of wired connection. ALWAYS make sure your all devices are shut off before connecting/disconnecting one device to another. The majority of manuals for electronics will state something similar to what you're bringing to light in this video. Many people do not know this when it should be known! For safety reasons and also the best way to ensure the easiest process for setting anything up. Especially for Bluetooth anything lol, mainly speakers or remotes. It will allow BT home theater systems (or speaker system) to work in sync with your TV when you press the power button on whichever remote you choose to mainly use. I worked tech support and am a techie at home also lol. Hope this helps!! I know setting up various different devices can get very frustrating for most families!!! Who likes reading manual word for word anyway 😛
Lmao nobody has done that ever because everyone just plugs and play and I've never fried anything for the past 5 years I've had it
He means the first time anyone tried to connect a ps4 to a tv
Well lucky. I'd never do that when something is on or plugged in.
It makes sense from a certain viewpoint. I saw a video about an Xbox owner who’s system was fried by an HDMI surge. It’s rare I guess but still possible.
i've always done this even before hdmi. thought that was the norm.
1 question. Is it bad to stack ps4's on top from 1 another like yours in video ?
I've been hot-plugging hdmi's on just about every console I own and their all fine so I say chances are like a 0.00001 of an issue actually occurring
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I have the first gen PS4 for almost 7 years and I have never heard that thing. All this time I’ve been doing this wrong and I didn’t have a problem. But now that I got a ps5 I will have that in mind so there is absolutely no chance of damaging this baby. THX FOR THE ADVICE DUDE !!!!!!!!!
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It's not minimal. Every time you make an electrical connection there is An arc. The electricity arcs from one post to another right before they touch.. this causes burn spots and surface issues. Leading to connectivity issues.
Maybe that’s why my last hdmi cable went bad. I turned system off of course but didn’t unplug the cord too.
So you suppose unplug the power cord first then the hdmi cord but what I'm confused about why do all this if you turned off the console off.
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Hdmi cables are not break before make so as there are voltages over 5v on multiple pins it makes sense not to bugger about when plugged in, but I've never had issues.
Do you have a fuse in those 2 pin plugs 👀
I don't know if I'm wrong (very probably I am), but I think it makes sense. I have a Samsung smart TV and when I turn on the TV, the PS4 turns on instantly, without pressing anything. Same as if I turn on the PS4 first, the TV turns on instantly as well. Even though the Ps4 in off, it might have some functions waiting to be activated. I guess it's somehow related to why it would potentially damage it if you unplug it from the HDMI before the power source. If you unplug it from the power source first, those other functions just stop being there and there will be no issue when you unplug the HDMI. I guess, but I am likely to be wrong haha.
Everyone follow the hdmi rule it’s true I had to get a second ps4 because my hdmi not the cable but the ps4
As an electrician, we call this potential difference. If one device is grounded and the other one isn't, with the cheap electronics we have nowadays there can be a slight voltage feeding through the chassis of the ungrounded device (especially if something is wrong with it). The ground can travel over the hdmi and either shock you or damage equipment.
While you're at it, do you mind reading the user manual of Sega Master System and tell us how to set it up correctly?
I'm surprised some people don't know this, it's always been a rule of thumb to never connect/disconnect without removing the power first. It's like that for every device.
My granpa have teached all this, when I was like 6 years old.... With a ps2
Ps2 were the glory days. Change my mind.
when I worked at the cable company years ago it was the same you hook everything up first before plugging into a outlet anyway that's how it has to be written it protects the seller sony if the buyer gets shocked or if something happens so the correct way is in the manual
That's the way I've always done my gaming systems since I was a kid.. thought it was common knowledge...
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Same bruh
I haven’t been paying attention on how I plug in or not but from now on I will. Thank you.
When the thumbnail says you can’t plug an hdmi cable into your PS4. Me: HOW I AM I SUPPOSED TO USE IT?!
Lol
I've been hotswapping for a while so my sons can play together on our PS4s.
My system is hooked up to the same TV I use for my PC, but I have a second screen I usually use for audio and video editing. I just hot swap the HDMI over to that from my HDMI splitter into a cable with a female/female HDMI adapter.
I can also join in with them in Cross platform games, which is nice. Apart from Minecraft, Microsoft has a problem with my account at the moment!
Microsoft accounts are bugged on PS4 for some reason. I've been locked out of cross play since Bedrock Edition came to PS4.
You shouldn’t be connecting or disconnecting anything if it is plugged into an outlet. This is electricity 101.
Electricity on off on?
Technically HDMI is hot-swap, but a bad ground on you home wiring could do a big shock if you plug anything, that is the reason to connect power at end when your device share a physical ground to be safe.
Too late my girlfriend plug the hdmi cable out the back in sleep mode now the ps4 always says when you turn it on no signal I'm guessing I'm the 1%
this is the method used to setup for moving the system to a different tv, it as to be connected to hdmi before power so it can set to correct resolution automatically without having to go into settings.
This is old. Sony had these directions implemented since the original PS3 came out.
I do this pratice for any device since i was a kid. It is ovious to plug in the power last or unplug first.
oh so thats how i fried my hdmi..
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There is power going through an HDMI cable. I currently have an HDMI splitter connected to my pc. Normally, it's suppose to get power from a micro-USB port, but the HDMI cable plugged in to my pc is enough to power it. So, if there's enough power going through it to power something, that means there is the potential for shorting.
When I turn on my ps4 sometimes my tv doesn't show the ps4 screen and it says nothing is connected
Another case which happens rarely to me (once 2 weeks or so) is that when i turn on my ps4 some weird lights show up in green mostly
And another case is that i turn on my ps4 and i just have a black screen. I can still hear sound tho
These don't happen always just sometimes
I have a ps4 pro cuh 7116b
Any explanation?
I remember the dealer of our first flat screen TV telling us, he needed to have his DVD-player fixed (reflashed in factory) because he unplugged the HDMI while both systems had power. But that is >15 years ago with the one of the earliest examples of a HDMI port on a DVD player that ever was. I have never heard of something similar again.
Interesting, many would never know this...who actually reads the manual for console?! Straight to gaming please...
I think it is pretty standard in electronics...this information is how I was taught for all electrical appliances....you make the source connection last when hooking equipment up, and you disconnect the source first when disassembling. For an HDMI cable, you would be assuring you are not creating additional currents by connecting and disconnecting properly.
This felling when you are so bored at quarantine so you start reading Ps4 instructions :|
A general good rule of thumb is to connect and disconnect sensitive electronic gear in order of power flow before switching on or off. You can get away with abusing the rule quite often but the possibility of damage to tiny components on the pcb is always there. Little spikes will slowly chip away at those components if you break the rule. Better still would be to leave everything connected and simply use individual on/off power switches for each unit.....hey presto !
0:52 read that I did that to my brothers ps4
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I Feel it’s more about the connection to your TV or monitor that uses the hdmi1 or arc port that make your tv turn on when the PlayStation and also the cec control to allow the tv remote to control some of the direction controls for like apps and such for convenience. I personally don’t like this feature so I don’t allow it. But, properly powering down your consul and tv/monitor before disconnecting is always a safe practice in my opinion.
Turn the PlayStation off before you unplug it!
My brother pulled out his HDMI one time, we can assume he didn’t unplug or even turn off console cause he was younger then he his now, but the HDMI itself came apart. The metal outer Trapezoid or whatever was stuck in the TV HDMI port and that cord was clearly ruined. We assumed the cord was cheap. Still unsure. But this does help me out in the long run, thank ❤️
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they are probably concerned that if a ground potential fault existed between the two devices existed that you could damage the HDMI encoder IC chip in the ps4.. the ps4 pro does not have a ground pin on its power supply cable ,I also strongly suggest you disconnect power to your whole device stack when thunder storms are in your area. even if you have a surge protector
Seeing a console hooked up to a quality monitor made me cringe. Like what's the point lul
The days of pc are over man
Some tvs turn on when you turn on your Playstation. That means there is a current going through it to signal the TV that the Playstation is on. There is an option in PS settings that turns this feature on or off.
I did fry the HDMI port of my PS3 Fat 80GB years ago by hot-plugging it. Luckily the rest of the console was just fine, I had to use the component (not composite) cables to get an HD output until some years later I sent it to an electronics workshop to finally fix the HDMI issue.
Had my ps4 since launch. Ive plugged and unplugged the hdmi numerous times while the machine still had power. Dont really understand how plugging or unplugging a peripheral cable would fry the machine. To that end, wouldn't a power outage brick your machine?
I've had an experience with a 3rd party HDMI cable spark slightly when I was about to hotswap it from my laptop to the PS3 back in the day. It only ever happened with that particular cable, so I think it's worth keeping in mind.
Nevertheless, it didn't fry anything and I was surprised more than anything else.
The PS4 does not have an earthed power supply, so once you plug it in, it will be floating at some potential between rectified mains and neutral (depending on where you are that will be anywhere up to 400-something volt, but with very little actual current capacity, so the worst you'll experience from that it a slight zap; pretty much every not-earthed switchmode power supply will do that). Your TV on the other hand will likely be earthed via an antenna cable or possibly through other attached devices. If you plug in the PS4 and then attach the HDMI cable, there will be a tiny current surge from the PS4's PSU through the TV to antenna ground that can potentially break something.
It's the same issue with any other device with a 2-pin mains plug, and from what I've heard North America has a bad relationship to proper electrical installations anyway (FFS get a proper plug standardised!), so even ostensibly earthed appliances might not be.
this has nothing to do with HDMI properties, but is just a good general rule. connect everything you have involved, then connect it to the hot voltage. these machines store charge, a lot, and are kind of lowest-bidder sort of parts. like you said, VERY low chance of this happening, but I have seen an PS4 HDMI encoding chip fail on a system that gets unplugged very frequently. who knows?
They are not wrong! While rearranging my media cabinet to test if all consoles where correctly connected to the correct port numbers I've got swapped my hdmi cable on my (old) xbox 360 and since then the hdcp is broken. At first I thought its because of the new configuration thus I've removed the xbox from the new configuration and reconnected it to my old tv and and previous cables, but unfortunately the same error occurred on the old setup... I think I swapped the cables whilst the xbox was powered on (not intentionally, the power button was where I had good grip)... Just a fair warning problems can occur ...
I once fried the main board of my Onkyo AV receiver by hot plugging a cheap crappy TV into it! My friend had just got the TV and we were testing and comparing it. I kept switching everything off while plugging and unplugging and he asked me why, reminding me that HDMI is hot pluggable. I knew that, but having worked many years in IT, I was just being cautious - possibly over cautious. So I decided to lighten up and just hot plug it. To our shock and disbelief, the receiver immediately died!
It was still under warranty so I took it back. When I collected it they told me the whole board had died and had been replaced. I asked them about the hot plugging causing such damage. They said, it's uncommon, but it is possible. I've just never felt the same about hot plugging HDMI since then.
Plugged in hdmi cables into gfx cards and often see a little spark. Think static also plays a factor.
I don't know how this is a problem on the PS, but on the desktop/mini macs, you have to have a display connected and recognized, otherwise it will not post past the bios. you might need an EDID spoofer if you connect a mac to a TV that turns off the HDMI if you want to use the macs without a display connected.
I was also told by Sony not to use a surge protector when I first got my ps4, weird.
HDMI is hotplugable only if both devices are referenced to earth ground (aka ps4 and tv) if they are not there's a potential for high voltage difference on hdmi connector shield, that can discharge into data pins, it's a pretty common to see devices with blow hdmi ports because of it if you work in servicing. Also RCA have the same problem, as well as mains powered usb devices like printers.
It is standard practice to attach the power cable last, whatever the application. The risk of arcs, surges, and shorts is always there if you attach connector cables between any powered devices.
About 10 years ago I was working at an electronic store. An employee was hooking up a Xbox 360 via hdmi to an overhead projector. Needless to say that the cable was hot when connecting. The entire room was engulfed in a white and blue light. The hdmi port was fried on the Xbox. The cable was toast, but the projector survived without a scratch.
I know this comment is late, but I had 3 hdmi ports stop working on an older lcd flatscreen (Sony brand), but I was also using PlayStation VR. It may also be partly related to this with all the power/data going through the VR components.
Happened to my Marantz sr6001 surround receiver.... That was a expensive mistake 😞. I recommend turning off power for every device before plugging in out hdmi.
Annoying thing is it happened 2 times. The first time one hdmi port gone after repair boom the entire hdmi board.... I later found out that my old tv was the problem, it didn't like the hdmi hot swap causing short and somehow killing other stuff and never itself.
Simply for static shock ,i.e. Rubbing your feet on the carpet you can also blow a pixel on your tv simply by touchin g the screen, which is why you should power down and completely unplug the tv before cleaning the screen
Here where houses are not grounded properly, every time I would try and plug in the HDMI hot, the outer metal casing would actually sparc against the TV socket as the cable carries voltage .. needless to say, I do power shit down now if I need to mess about with HDMI cables.
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I don’t unplug the wire that connects the device to the surge protector while it’s on but I do sometimes remove the hdmi from the tv while the PlayStation is still on
My HDMI cable stopped working all of a sudden, and I think it’s because I didn’t follow the user manual you were just talking about. I’m not worried though I can buy another cable no problem but thank you!
LOL I've always connected power last on electronics. I don't even remember why I started doing it, it's just always what I've done ever since I was a kid in the early to mid 80's. It's actually much easier nowadays since I can just turn off the surge protector, connect or disconnect all the cables, then switch the surge protector back on.
The PS4 is still doing things whenever it’s off and plugged in. I know this because my OG PS4 makes a very faint clicking noise whenever it’s off but plugged in. Normally, I remove the power plug to stop the clicking but any electrical power like static electricity (capacitors) can cause damage to components which when working on electronics we’re supposed to use a ground strap. Connecting anything (like HDMI) can possibly cause damage so the less electricity inside the PS4, the better.
Thank you that explain why the ancient owner of my console scrapped the HDMI port a bit so it get some image bugs time to times.
My power gets cut off and it has happened a lot while I play ps4. Is this bad?